I want to emphasize something I think is really important from this video in case you didn't watch all the way to the end: If you are shopping for a 2018 quad core 13" MacBook Pro because it's less expensive than the 15", you NEED to look into the 2016 15". The CPU performance is very very similar, but the larger screen and massively superior dedicated graphics (to integrated Intel graphics) make this machine much more capable, and you can get them for less than a 2018 13". Definitely look into it!
Again TJ is spanking you. her comment is 100% correct yet again. I will keep this short. 2016 had a flawed GPU with the 460, Apple acknowledged a chip flaw and was replacing with updated 460's and mostly replacing the logic boards with 560's upon availability. 2nd the 13in quad in 2018 is 30-50% faster than the 2016 15inch. The 8th gen intel is more than a benchmark number. next, the 560X is optimized to utilize the next generation of metal graphics being around 50-70% FASTER than 2016 and a final cut update to utilize the GPU and CPU more efficiently. Next the SSD speed has double on the 1tb or higher 2018's a 100%+ increase. Oh almost forgot the new DDR4 and not the slow LP version, with over 30% faster DDR4 Luke Luke yet again you did not do your research properly. Shameful
Loving it... Luke do you do any form of research or do you just plagiarize other peoples reviews and call them yours? this is not a 2yr later video, this is a comparison review. 2 years later would be showing how the case is holding up, the screen, etc etc all you did was review hardware and you did a very poor job of it. Also no apple will NEVER replace the laptop after 3 repairs, it didnt become a class action suit, apple replaced the keyboards voluntarily meaning that the 3 strikes laws in USA, CAN and UK do not apply LUKE ITS A 2018 KEYBOARD NOT 2017 .... the 2016 keyboard is replaced only if shown to be defective and with stock availability. Luke assumed you get a a 2017. no luke it is a 2018 keyboard with the new silicon membrane. Luke again take your video down, correct your mistakes then repost with accurate info, you are already earning a reputation of being Deeply inaccurate
Just got my first keyboard repair, initially shocked by the top case replacement but wow, 2.5 years in and over 200 cycles and I get a fresh battery and new speakers after one of them blew. its renewed the machine in my eyes and all for free 👌🏻
@@saucysuishi341 still going strong thank you, still recommend them, think the advent of the Apple Silicone Macs have definitely shown that these machines whilst powerful in their day won’t be considered so in a few years time but for that price I’d go for it, they’re still an excellent bit of kit and everything from the display to the speakers are great. Make sure you clean the vents out regularly too and keep it dust free on the back of the board(avoid compressed air and try stick with brushes)
I actually really like the Touch Bar. I decided on getting my 2016 MacBook for it, as opposed to an older MacBook. I also like the giant trackpad and Sidecar support. Older MacBooks aren’t compatible with it, apparently.
Lol this is an old comment. It’s been fine, but I’d say it’s more worth looking into M1 MacBooks (or M1 Pro/Max if you want the 16 inch). You’ll get way longer life out of it. Luke also has made videos somewhat recently about intel Mac prices since the M1 transition
still using the 2013 version you recommended in another video. 16gigs of ram with upgraded 512 ssd and being a 15 inch model. Couldn't have been happier.
Please how did you upgrade your MacBook pro's storage? I used an NVMe SSD with an adapter and it worked fine but the fan is always running with a loud noise. Please advise. Thanks.
I just sold my 2016 Macbook Pro 13 without Touch bar. It worked great, never gave me a problem. I didn't like the keyboard at first, but I got used to it. Just upgraded to a 2017 15 inch. It's been fantastic so far. I did an unboxing on my channel if anyone is interested.
This is a great video and i like how you accentuated the portability factor in these machines. I've owned PCs and Windows based laptops over the years and I think you nailed the reasons why anyone would buy a MacBook Pro - screen, battery, design and portability. People are different and have different needs, but there's no perfect laptop in the world as there will always be compromises.
Just swapped an ipad pro plus $1000 for a 3 month old 2018 15 inch base model macbook pro. it has only 10 battery cycles and is in mint condition. I love this laptop.
I have on of those 15 inch from 2016, and I was planning on using it as a starting point for editing a vlog that I'm planning to working on. it's good to know that it still can handle some hard work. great video btw!
The thing is that I would LOVE to buy 15" 2016 but here(in Turkey), because of the currency and the unbalanced second hand you can find this notebook for 4000-4500$...(Average salary in month is somewhere 500-600$)
It really is a shame that the US is so isolated in pricing. I get a lot of comments from people like you who just want a laptop but the price is so inflated it’s not worth it.
Is there resolution difference between old touchbar (with integrated TouchID) and a new touchbar (without integrated ToichID and Escape)? I mean the old have 2170 x 60 pixels. A new one is the same resolution? Are other differences between them as well? Can't find answer on Google. Thanks in advance.
When a possible upgrade to a newer model down the road, if you can get to 3 keyboard failures, becomes a selling point, then something has gone horribly wrong somewhere.
Nice. I have 2017 15 inch MacBook pro, I use a rubber carpet for my keyboard and I have no trouble with this thing. A year of work and typing without any replacing at all. I also played in Diablo 3 on masOS and it works really fine. Radeon pro 560 is pretty enough for games on low-medium quality. But win10 and directX I think gonna be better for that entertainment.
I've been watching you and Funhaus for a long time and I could never figure out if you reminded me of James Willems, or if James Willems reminded me of you. Anyway great video as always.
Just sold my mid 2015 MacBook pro for a 2017 model. Looking forward to it but not dongle city. Also I'm a photographer so I'm high-key upset about the lack of an SD card port though. Other than that I'm excited for the better graphics and 7th gen CPU.
They have many dongles on amazon that have a lot of ports including an SD Card. Sucks but it’s not impossible to work around, they’re not too much in price if you wanna cheaper one.
You made a great point, if you need power this is not the device for you. You need a desktop. If portability is the main concern, you’re welcome. Thank you for continuing to educate me on the value of older Macs.
"that you encounter every single day" - well friend, as someone who's been using this Mac for the past 2 years same as you - never once did I have any issue. Love the touchbar, love the specs, love the design. Laptop was able to handle everything I threw its way and still remains my favorite business tool. I also own a 2017 ROG Gaming laptop that's been highly praised by 90% of YT reviewers and I can't stand the plastic piece of crap that keeps crashing and lagging after a year of usage. I also own a decent desktop Windows gaming setup and it does what it needs to do. However - the cloud, the security, the features of the MacBook Pro (and any other Apple product) outlives and performs better more times than not vs. a Windows config. Windows is by no means bad - but for a business professional, Mac is and always will be the main weapon. Yes the dongles can annoy you, but since I'm all cloud storage, no USB user - nor I need to plug in anything in order to work - Mac is king.
The current version of Final Cut seems to be broken. A one-hour-long 10bit 4K HEVC file takes days to render. 8 bit is blazingly fast tho, but I don't want to see banding.
So it's currently December 2019 and I finally decided to sell my 2013 Macbook Pro and get a new one (It runs and feels like new but the battery is shot and I am looking for something new) So right now I am trying to choose between 2 MacBooks. The first is the new 2019 MacBook Pro 13" with TouchBar. It would cost me 1,379 euros. It's really nice and obviously brand new but it only has 128GB of storage, 8GB of ram 2 ports and the 13 inch screen. My current Macbook has 256GB of storage and the 13" display seems a tat bit small. The second is a used 2016 Macbook Pro 15" with 500GB of storage, 16GB of ram, 4 ports and that big 15 inch display. It would only cost me about 1000 euros, but it would not be new and battery life could be questionable. Any suggestions?
Hey guys. Anyone watching this video in 2020 thinking of actually buying a 4 year old Mac book pro fully specced out I say go for it. The price is incredible for what you can find. I've been using mine no problem whatsoever. 2016 1 TB 16 GB RAM. Super good buy!!!! Love it love it love it! Plenty of space for storage, plenty of RAM for programs. I use multiple virtual machines with Parallels running, Linux and Windows 10. No issues at all whatsoever. Love it so much. I've had it for almost a year now and I've had no issues. I'm on the newest Mac OS Catalina, runs smoothly have all the features feels like a brand new Mac book. If you're looking on eBay always check for warranties offered by the seller or some sort of insurance. Protect your investment. And best of luck shoppers!
I bought mine 2016 I noticed you mentioned the Keyboard Service Program. I noticed that the letter T is sticky and isn’t consistent with the other keys. Would they still change the entire keyboard and or the batteries as well? By the way, how long did it take for them to service your laptop? Thank you.
In general I do not trust anyone who talks about gaming on computers, while they are playing with the touchpad, on a desk. That's just me though. I am glad you are finally mentioning using proxy files for 4K files. Good video. Let's see what Apple has for us in a few days.
Great video, Luke. I am glad to see you praising the computer at the end of the video. The best machine is the one that you're using. If this machine got you going than it was a worthy investment. Also, I like what you said "Don't buy it". I can't remember exactly, and it made sense. I haven't used a laptop for video editing in a long time and don't plan to. A desktop is way better for that kind of work. Hopefully, the upcoming event will be where Apple releases a new "PRO" level set of computers. Last, I would like to thank you for sharing that these MacBook Pros, can't really edit 4K 8-BIT video well. That requires is a lot more processing power than I think I realized. But, just like when I tried to edit 1080 60P on an older i7. We find out what is needed after we have started working on the projects. Glad, I have subscribed to your video channel.
My experience is that this keyboard has issues like every other keyboard. And some of them fix themselves over time and regular use. While not a good solution, replacing for free or paying for a new battery, you will also get a new keyboard on your device thanks to soddering
Just bought the 15" MacBook Pro 2016 w/ Touch Bar i7 for $1300! I'm usually not one to spend money on an apple laptop but that was too good of a deal to pass off.
Jason Yun Im about to get one for that price ! Have you gotten any problems ?? That’s why I’m nervous about because if it breaks and the repair price is high
I want to invest in a new MacBook Pro, I'm still using a 2013 MacBook Pro, I travel a lot, I will probably edit a UA-cam video every now and then, would you recommend one of these ?
I personally was so satisfied with my MBP 13 2010 that it was really sad to see design choices worsening (compromises to get a thin/sexy laptop), not to mention soldering of even the SSD! WTF. Now it is time for me to buy a replacement and I refused to pay for a pricy apple product with a shitty keyboard, instead I opted for a lenovo thinkpad. I will miss mac OS, but now it's time for me to think different.
Why Does Apple prefer to use Radeon graphics instead of NVIDIA while in the past they used to use NVIDIA? Does it have to do anything with optimization?
Kiarash Karimi Well, their softwares are optimized for AMD, ranging from the simple OS to their dedicated APIs. Final Cut is what makes that Radeon really shine.
The butterfly keyboard is very glitchy after 2 yrs of use. I know Apple wants to make their laptops sleek looking, but the old keyboard for me was so much better for typing.
My main computer (the only I has) is a Late 2015 MacBook Pro I7. I use it for everything including video editing. It works great and have all the ports.
hows that been working for you? I'm about to ditch my 18' mpb because the battery last like an hour and i'm tired of bringing it to apple every two weeks. only reason I needed it was for xcode.
@@RhexGomez I'm saying that a hackintosh, or a non-Apple machine that runs macOS, is very difficult to maintain on a laptop. I was NOT trying to say that macOS is the only option.
The boost given by the 8th generation is just for multicore stuff...because they just dubled the cores on the whole lineup. From an architectural point of view it's the same stuff since 3 generations, this is confirmed by single core benchmarks: basically the same
If you consider the productivity losses during those replacements, accompanied with the frustrations with several months of slow degeneration of the keys to finally broke down, i don't think it's worth the 2018 replacement possibility. ( I 've had two replacements now, both of which occasions almost had me broke down emotionally )
I just bought the a 2018 version of this. im just curious whether the replacements are free outside of the one year warranty seeing as this is a design issue..
I heard that the strips starched to the display bend constantly opening and closing the laptop. People are reporting their displays defecting and giving out because of the constant bend to those thin strips attached to the display. It happens they say around the end of warranty mark. Is this true?
I haven't had any issues on my computer, but my display was replaced twice for other reasons so it's not old enough to be experiencing these issues yet it would seem
how much can i get if i sell my late 2016 mbp w/ touch bar? with these specs 2.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz • 16GB 2133MHz memory • Radeon Pro 460 with 4GB memory • 512GB PCIe-based SSD
Im looking to buy a macbook to start making beats , i was looking into the 2018 macbook pro , should i just get the 2016 version for HALF the price ? Plus , it comes with usb ports ...
Apple & Nvidia no longer work together after the all the GPU issues wuth Nvidia based laptops, apple blamed Nvidia for bad chips and Nvidia blamed Apple saying it was bad thermal design that damaged the chips so since then Apple have stuck to AMD GPU's, but it was said that Nvidia revoked Apples partnership status so will not sell them GPU's same thing they did to XFX
@Luke Miani - I see you've purchased Logic Pro X what specs should I look out for when window-shopping for a new Mac machine? CPU/GPU/RAM? I really only need to load plug-ins from external hard drives and such for music production. I'm a bit green behind my ears on these subjects, so any help is greatly appreciated :)
I want to emphasize something I think is really important from this video in case you didn't watch all the way to the end: If you are shopping for a 2018 quad core 13" MacBook Pro because it's less expensive than the 15", you NEED to look into the 2016 15". The CPU performance is very very similar, but the larger screen and massively superior dedicated graphics (to integrated Intel graphics) make this machine much more capable, and you can get them for less than a 2018 13". Definitely look into it!
What do you think a used 2016 or 2017 15 inch model with 512gb should cost now?
Do you prefer working on the MacBook or your Mac Pro?
Again TJ is spanking you. her comment is 100% correct yet again. I will keep this short. 2016 had a flawed GPU with the 460, Apple acknowledged a chip flaw and was replacing with updated 460's and mostly replacing the logic boards with 560's upon availability. 2nd the 13in quad in 2018 is 30-50% faster than the 2016 15inch. The 8th gen intel is more than a benchmark number. next, the 560X is optimized to utilize the next generation of metal graphics being around 50-70% FASTER than 2016 and a final cut update to utilize the GPU and CPU more efficiently. Next the SSD speed has double on the 1tb or higher 2018's a 100%+ increase. Oh almost forgot the new DDR4 and not the slow LP version, with over 30% faster DDR4 Luke Luke yet again you did not do your research properly. Shameful
What about the keyboard issues with the 2016/17 models?
Loving it... Luke do you do any form of research or do you just plagiarize other peoples reviews and call them yours? this is not a 2yr later video, this is a comparison review. 2 years later would be showing how the case is holding up, the screen, etc etc all you did was review hardware and you did a very poor job of it. Also no apple will NEVER replace the laptop after 3 repairs, it didnt become a class action suit, apple replaced the keyboards voluntarily meaning that the 3 strikes laws in USA, CAN and UK do not apply LUKE ITS A 2018 KEYBOARD NOT 2017 .... the 2016 keyboard is replaced only if shown to be defective and with stock availability. Luke assumed you get a a 2017. no luke it is a 2018 keyboard with the new silicon membrane. Luke again take your video down, correct your mistakes then repost with accurate info, you are already earning a reputation of being Deeply inaccurate
Just got my first keyboard repair, initially shocked by the top case replacement but wow, 2.5 years in and over 200 cycles and I get a fresh battery and new speakers after one of them blew. its renewed the machine in my eyes and all for free 👌🏻
randombloke10 How long did it take?
Qasim about 5 days, had no dramas since but hopefully it goes the distance
Thanks randombloke10 :)
@@randombloke10 how is it standing today. Looking into getting one with 2.9ghz and 256 for 419$.. think it’s worth it
@@saucysuishi341 still going strong thank you, still recommend them, think the advent of the Apple Silicone Macs have definitely shown that these machines whilst powerful in their day won’t be considered so in a few years time but for that price I’d go for it, they’re still an excellent bit of kit and everything from the display to the speakers are great. Make sure you clean the vents out regularly too and keep it dust free on the back of the board(avoid compressed air and try stick with brushes)
awesome to see how your videos get better over time
Your soundtracks always get stuck in my head in a good way.
Just bought a 2016 MacBook Pro 13 with Touchbar for 1,100 and it works great. Probably one of my best purchases of 2018
Nightiger Me2. Best buy in a long while.
Nightiger i just beat you lol I got the exact model for 1030 with apple care til 2020
You guys think that a 15" with 16GB ram and 512GB for 1500€ is worth it? I have an appointment in 5 days but still don't know.
Arrigo Lupori seems like a good deal depending how well take care it is
Is it good for me as a student ? Nd thanks in advance
I actually really like the Touch Bar. I decided on getting my 2016 MacBook for it, as opposed to an older MacBook. I also like the giant trackpad and Sidecar support. Older MacBooks aren’t compatible with it, apparently.
Hey im gettin in the next days one, how do u think about the mac now ?
Lol this is an old comment. It’s been fine, but I’d say it’s more worth looking into M1 MacBooks (or M1 Pro/Max if you want the 16 inch). You’ll get way longer life out of it. Luke also has made videos somewhat recently about intel Mac prices since the M1 transition
@@halami2149 would you say to buy the mac 2016 just for movies and entertainment is good ?
and how is the batterie life in the current situation
The work that you put into reviewing and discussing the Apple product line is definitely appreciated. Thank you Luke!
still using the 2013 version you recommended in another video. 16gigs of ram with upgraded 512 ssd and being a 15 inch model. Couldn't have been happier.
Please how did you upgrade your MacBook pro's storage? I used an NVMe SSD with an adapter and it worked fine but the fan is always running with a loud noise. Please advise. Thanks.
I just sold my 2016 Macbook Pro 13 without Touch bar. It worked great, never gave me a problem. I didn't like the keyboard at first, but I got used to it. Just upgraded to a 2017 15 inch. It's been fantastic so far. I did an unboxing on my channel if anyone is interested.
This is a great video and i like how you accentuated the portability factor in these machines. I've owned PCs and Windows based laptops over the years and I think you nailed the reasons why anyone would buy a MacBook Pro - screen, battery, design and portability. People are different and have different needs, but there's no perfect laptop in the world as there will always be compromises.
A lot of people forget that portability is important in portable laptops XD
The last real MacBook Pro came out in 2015. Change my mind
I can't change your mind. You're right !
As someone who has the 2017 13inch TouchBar Pro, I agree. My mac has never felt like a real MacBook throughout the time I have used it.
Apple always crates shit everything change my mind
The retina models are good, but the 2012 non retina ones are better from a serviceability perspective.
@@jameo3606 my custom pc is better for everything
The videos are getting better and better!
How
Just swapped an ipad pro plus $1000 for a 3 month old 2018 15 inch base model macbook pro. it has only 10 battery cycles and is in mint condition. I love this laptop.
Great video. A big hug from Brazil!
I have the 2017 13" MBP and love it. Haven't had a problem with it yet and I use a dock style dongle to give me all the ports I will ever need.
Where did you purchase the dock ? Link it if possible
Joseph Salino I bought it at Best Buy.
Greg Thompson wt was the price
@@rennn.x5711 For the dock? I think I paid like $50 for it. I have had it for about 2 years now.
Video quality just keeps getting better and better!
I have on of those 15 inch from 2016, and I was planning on using it as a starting point for editing a vlog that I'm planning to working on. it's good to know that it still can handle some hard work. great video btw!
You have it?
The thing is that I would LOVE to buy 15" 2016 but here(in Turkey), because of the currency and the unbalanced second hand you can find this notebook for 4000-4500$...(Average salary in month is somewhere 500-600$)
It really is a shame that the US is so isolated in pricing. I get a lot of comments from people like you who just want a laptop but the price is so inflated it’s not worth it.
look up xiaomi mi pro :) maybe it will catch your interest
Luke Miami ambassador of MacBooks 🤩
Is there resolution difference between old touchbar (with integrated TouchID) and a new touchbar (without integrated ToichID and Escape)? I mean the old have 2170 x 60 pixels. A new one is the same resolution? Are other differences between them as well? Can't find answer on Google. Thanks in advance.
I'm a big fan of your videos😍😍 keep up your awesome work👍
Damn ur first
When a possible upgrade to a newer model down the road, if you can get to 3 keyboard failures, becomes a selling point, then something has gone horribly wrong somewhere.
Nice. I have 2017 15 inch MacBook pro, I use a rubber carpet for my keyboard and I have no trouble with this thing. A year of work and typing without any replacing at all.
I also played in Diablo 3 on masOS and it works really fine. Radeon pro 560 is pretty enough for games on low-medium quality. But win10 and directX I think gonna be better for that entertainment.
So the rubber carpet sloving the keyboard issue?
What’s a rubber carpet. Very interested if it fixes the keyboard issue.
I've been watching you and Funhaus for a long time and I could never figure out if you reminded me of James Willems, or if James Willems reminded me of you. Anyway great video as always.
THATS WHY HE LOOKS FAMILIAR RIGHT
Just sold my mid 2015 MacBook pro for a 2017 model. Looking forward to it but not dongle city. Also I'm a photographer so I'm high-key upset about the lack of an SD card port though. Other than that I'm excited for the better graphics and 7th gen CPU.
They have many dongles on amazon that have a lot of ports including an SD Card. Sucks but it’s not impossible to work around, they’re not too much in price if you wanna cheaper one.
You made a great point, if you need power this is not the device for you. You need a desktop. If portability is the main concern, you’re welcome.
Thank you for continuing to educate me on the value of older Macs.
Should I get a 2016 MacBook Pro or a new one ?? I’ll be saving about a 1000 if I go with the 2016 but is it reliable??
PI86 I’m getting the 2016 one this Wednesday
@@fr0styy156 how is it going?
Enjoying your content, however, your audio is a bit low.
"that you encounter every single day" - well friend, as someone who's been using this Mac for the past 2 years same as you - never once did I have any issue. Love the touchbar, love the specs, love the design. Laptop was able to handle everything I threw its way and still remains my favorite business tool. I also own a 2017 ROG Gaming laptop that's been highly praised by 90% of YT reviewers and I can't stand the plastic piece of crap that keeps crashing and lagging after a year of usage. I also own a decent desktop Windows gaming setup and it does what it needs to do.
However - the cloud, the security, the features of the MacBook Pro (and any other Apple product) outlives and performs better more times than not vs. a Windows config.
Windows is by no means bad - but for a business professional, Mac is and always will be the main weapon. Yes the dongles can annoy you, but since I'm all cloud storage, no USB user - nor I need to plug in anything in order to work - Mac is king.
I want to buy one for $ 1271 is it worth it? it still works well after 2 years? Thank you in advance for your answers
The current version of Final Cut seems to be broken. A one-hour-long 10bit 4K HEVC file takes days to render. 8 bit is blazingly fast tho, but I don't want to see banding.
So it's currently December 2019 and I finally decided to sell my 2013 Macbook Pro and get a new one (It runs and feels like new but the battery is shot and I am looking for something new) So right now I am trying to choose between 2 MacBooks. The first is the new 2019 MacBook Pro 13" with TouchBar. It would cost me 1,379 euros. It's really nice and obviously brand new but it only has 128GB of storage, 8GB of ram 2 ports and the 13 inch screen. My current Macbook has 256GB of storage and the 13" display seems a tat bit small. The second is a used 2016 Macbook Pro 15" with 500GB of storage, 16GB of ram, 4 ports and that big 15 inch display. It would only cost me about 1000 euros, but it would not be new and battery life could be questionable. Any suggestions?
buy the base model then u can use external Samsung memory , it will be cheaper!
@AC_Slayer I mean Samsung External SSD. It is very small in size and connected with USB C.
Great and highly useful video, Luke.
Hey guys. Anyone watching this video in 2020 thinking of actually buying a 4 year old Mac book pro fully specced out I say go for it. The price is incredible for what you can find. I've been using mine no problem whatsoever. 2016 1 TB 16 GB RAM. Super good buy!!!! Love it love it love it! Plenty of space for storage, plenty of RAM for programs. I use multiple virtual machines with Parallels running, Linux and Windows 10. No issues at all whatsoever. Love it so much. I've had it for almost a year now and I've had no issues. I'm on the newest Mac OS Catalina, runs smoothly have all the features feels like a brand new Mac book. If you're looking on eBay always check for warranties offered by the seller or some sort of insurance. Protect your investment. And best of luck shoppers!
Can I buy yours now? 😭. I'm a growing designer from Nigeria and Macs here cost a fortune.
@lukemiani, How much would you pay for the base MacBook 15" (late 2016) in 2020?
I bought mine 2016 I noticed you mentioned the Keyboard Service Program. I noticed that the letter T is sticky and isn’t consistent with the other keys. Would they still change the entire keyboard and or the batteries as well? By the way, how long did it take for them to service your laptop? Thank you.
how would this computer handle 1080 p footage with lots of effects, like masking, color, speed rampse etc, is the playback still smooth?
You ain’t hear of flex gate right?
In general I do not trust anyone who talks about gaming on computers, while they are playing with the touchpad, on a desk.
That's just me though.
I am glad you are finally mentioning using proxy files for 4K files.
Good video.
Let's see what Apple has for us in a few days.
Oh lol that's not how I play normally, but it wouldn't look good on camera if I plugged in my mechanical keyboard and wired mouse XD
:) Thanks for sharing that info. :)
Great video, Luke. I am glad to see you praising the computer at the end of the video. The best machine is the one that you're using. If this machine got you going than it was a worthy investment. Also, I like what you said "Don't buy it". I can't remember exactly, and it made sense. I haven't used a laptop for video editing in a long time and don't plan to. A desktop is way better for that kind of work. Hopefully, the upcoming event will be where Apple releases a new "PRO" level set of computers.
Last, I would like to thank you for sharing that these MacBook Pros, can't really edit 4K 8-BIT video well. That requires is a lot more processing power than I think I realized. But, just like when I tried to edit 1080 60P on an older i7. We find out what is needed after we have started working on the projects.
Glad, I have subscribed to your video channel.
My experience is that this keyboard has issues like every other keyboard. And some of them fix themselves over time and regular use. While not a good solution, replacing for free or paying for a new battery, you will also get a new keyboard on your device thanks to soddering
Hi Luke could you please answer me a question? How about the flexgate? Did you encountered this problem?
Great view. Thank. You can inspire!
4:40 that dolly transition tho
8:52 That.
Congratulations, new subscriber.
I want to buy one for $ 1271 is it worth it? it still works well after 2 years? Thank you in advance for your answers
@@varleydistro8297 Did you get it?
Just bought the 15" MacBook Pro 2016 w/ Touch Bar i7 for $1300! I'm usually not one to spend money on an apple laptop but that was too good of a deal to pass off.
Jason Yun Im about to get one for that price ! Have you gotten any problems ?? That’s why I’m nervous about because if it breaks and the repair price is high
I want to invest in a new MacBook Pro, I'm still using a 2013 MacBook Pro, I travel a lot, I will probably edit a UA-cam video every now and then, would you recommend one of these ?
eeerrrrhhh i would really like to upgrade from my 2012 macbook pro
are there any newer and good ones to by cuz i am broke
The new "Air" is coming out in 3 days
I personally was so satisfied with my MBP 13 2010 that it was really sad to see design choices worsening (compromises to get a thin/sexy laptop), not to mention soldering of even the SSD! WTF. Now it is time for me to buy a replacement and I refused to pay for a pricy apple product with a shitty keyboard, instead I opted for a lenovo thinkpad. I will miss mac OS, but now it's time for me to think different.
Slimmer the laptop the more durable.Like a Rolex.
A windows laptop, same price as a MacBook just insanely better specs and value for money
I loved that intro 😂🔥
Hi Luke, one question wich hub do u recommend ? Because I was looking and there are so many how can I decide ?
Why Does Apple prefer to use Radeon graphics instead of NVIDIA while in the past they used to use NVIDIA? Does it have to do anything with optimization?
Kiarash Karimi Well, their softwares are optimized for AMD, ranging from the simple OS to their dedicated APIs.
Final Cut is what makes that Radeon really shine.
Jeremy Clarkson thank you
it actually has to do with their relationship to Nvidia, which has not been on good waters in a long, long time.
It's still good
Love your channel m8
I love your vids.
The butterfly keyboard is very glitchy after 2 yrs of use. I know Apple wants to make their laptops sleek looking, but the old keyboard for me was so much better for typing.
Thanks for the video!
This guy deserve millions subscribe
ive had my MacBook Pro 13' from 2016 and I totally agree with you.
George texerz Groves have you gotten any problem ? With your laptop
have you got the Flexgate issue yet? I hope you make a video so apple will fix it for free
My main computer (the only I has) is a Late 2015 MacBook Pro I7. I use it for everything including video editing. It works great and have all the ports.
You don't have all the ports. You don't have the best, fastest most flexible port there is - TB3.
Great job man!!
Also, Apple have put out 15 inch MacBook pros with Vega graphics coming late November
Did anyone replace 2016 MacBook Pro model with 2018 model for keyboard issues ?
I've left macbooks for Hackintosh workstation ;)
hows that been working for you? I'm about to ditch my 18' mpb because the battery last like an hour and i'm tired of bringing it to apple every two weeks. only reason I needed it was for xcode.
Which is illegal, so you know - FU.
Too bad that's not an option for anyone who needs a laptop.
@@abubakrakram6208 Are you saying if the OS is not mac base the laptop will not work? Mac is not the only laptop just saying.
@@RhexGomez I'm saying that a hackintosh, or a non-Apple machine that runs macOS, is very difficult to maintain on a laptop. I was NOT trying to say that macOS is the only option.
The boost given by the 8th generation is just for multicore stuff...because they just dubled the cores on the whole lineup. From an architectural point of view it's the same stuff since 3 generations, this is confirmed by single core benchmarks: basically the same
no, they made them a little better, so they could clock higher. thats why 9th gen got solder, so they could clock it higher without redlining temps
Hey Luke, thanks for your help via Twitter
If you consider the productivity losses during those replacements, accompanied with the frustrations with several months of slow degeneration of the keys to finally broke down, i don't think it's worth the 2018 replacement possibility. ( I 've had two replacements now, both of which occasions almost had me broke down emotionally )
I just bought the a 2018 version of this. im just curious whether the replacements are free outside of the one year warranty seeing as this is a design issue..
How did you upgrade your mac's storage ?
I want to buy one for $ 1199, is it worth it? it still works well after 2 years? Thank you in advance for your answers
AO1337 it’s the 2017 model
Nice Video, thank you
Do u think 15" Touch Bar MacBook Pro still value to buy the sencond hand now ? and how long it can still be use?
if its the 2016, i'd say no. Its because of the keyboard. Maybe a 2017 or 2018?
Looks like you showed the 2017+ MacBook Pro cause the option key on the keyboard are different compared to the 2016 version.
Jason Calvin He literally says it in the video
I heard that the strips starched to the display bend constantly opening and closing the laptop. People are reporting their displays defecting and giving out because of the constant bend to those thin strips attached to the display. It happens they say around the end of warranty mark. Is this true?
I haven't had any issues on my computer, but my display was replaced twice for other reasons so it's not old enough to be experiencing these issues yet it would seem
Did you suffer from flexgate issue?
He said in my comment about this that he had no display issues.
will the 8gb of ram be sufficient enough for editing?
What about the rubber seal near the display coming off after 3 years on its own....!!!
I like your new intro!
2016 MBP 13" non-TB. Not a single keyboard issue yet. Some strange spotting on the lid though - I should have used a skin I guess......
Have Mac will travel. The upgradability and repairability really are things that gripe me but it is hard to beat Mac OS
2016 did everybody forget comments are old now.
Oh so you can upgrade and put more Ram into this computer?
how much can i get if i sell my late 2016 mbp w/ touch bar? with these specs 2.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
• 16GB 2133MHz memory
• Radeon Pro 460 with 4GB memory
• 512GB PCIe-based SSD
1000$ if that maybe 900$
I can get one of these for $500 used, I need one for school badly, is this worth it
Yes it’s really good very powerful but the keyboards take some time to get used to
@@3THUGGER will flexgate happen if i dont open it past 90 degrees
@@paulnguyen4523 don’t think so
@@paulnguyen4523 had mine for a year plus and had no problems
My 2012 MacBook Pro scores 550 in Cinebench lol. That’s kinda sad that this machine isn’t even that much faster.
Pendleton 115 That’s Intel’s fault
should i buy one in 2020???
Where can I still buy this please? Thanks
Is it supports output 144/120hz to a monitor?
Song at the beginning is addleral by rav
How long do they last?
Really like the older content.
Im looking to buy a macbook to start making beats , i was looking into the 2018 macbook pro , should i just get the 2016 version for HALF the price ? Plus , it comes with usb ports ...
Another reason i would get the '18 version is because of its trade in value
best 600 I've spent thank you
Apple & Nvidia no longer work together after the all the GPU issues wuth Nvidia based laptops, apple blamed Nvidia for bad chips and Nvidia blamed Apple saying it was bad thermal design that damaged the chips so since then Apple have stuck to AMD GPU's, but it was said that Nvidia revoked Apples partnership status so will not sell them GPU's same thing they did to XFX
It was two years already? What?! :o
Well, even the battery life was quite bad.
Overall, an awful Macbook Pro era (2016-2019). Finally we returned to great Pros!!
You just explained how it's much less capable machine because of the compromises it makes, yet you got one yourself?
@Luke Miani -
I see you've purchased Logic Pro X
what specs should I look out for when window-shopping for a new Mac machine? CPU/GPU/RAM?
I really only need to load plug-ins from external hard drives and such for music production.
I'm a bit green behind my ears on these subjects, so any help is greatly appreciated :)
at the moment I have an 8GB RAM 2013 macbook pro available to me, but I;m having certain read/write problems with my SSD.
I believe best buy or B&H has $800 off for 15 inch in the US? Would you check that out?
@@allansh828 I'm Europe-based :/
@@marnixpeeters2675
so am I. SAD!
But I don't think Luke do much music production. Logic Pro might came with the student pro app bundle.
@@allansh828 welp. too bad, guess I'll keep searching :)
That keyboard is a fucking mess
what about the quad core intel core i7 for this model?
Should I buy this in 2021 found one for 400 I can also use a keyboard cover to prevent issues
please don’t
I am worried about my laptop... I am afraid that the flexgate problem pops out someday...