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How Pinegrove Changed Indie Forever
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2023
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The Metronome is one of my favorite songs ever, these guys are fantastic and it's great to see them getting mainstream attention
Same that songs on all my playlists no matter the genre
I know, Size of the Moon is my favorite song in general, also glad to see them getting the attention they deserve
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learning and singing pinegrove songs alone to myself is probably the only reason i’m alive today. the sheer whimsy and emotion in every single one of their albums still makes me cry from joy even all these years later.
i’m loving that with this new public resurgence of the band that people who have been listening to them for years are starting to share their own unique stories, every one interesting and beautiful.
thanks for sharing yours, and hopefully more tell their stories, past and yet to be written.
This x 1000
It's the same with me. I am still alive because of Pinegrove. Hell, I consider myself happy now. I still remember the day I learned how to play Aphasia and the lyrics just rolled right off my tongue, flooding into my bedroom, drowning me in satisfaction. Stephans-Hall is a genius in my eyes and I am so thankful for his existence.
I always feel weird about liking an artist that I found on tik tok instead of finding them the "natural" way(whatever that is), but there's something about pinegrove that's so intimate despite their growing popularity. To me, it doesn't matter that I found this band through the mainstream pipeline. All that matters is that I'm having a great time jumping into the rabbit hole of their music.
I've seen a version of this comment across all their videos. can i ask what's so bad about finding good music via tiktok? I don't quite get it.
@@kierand9410 for me, I think it comes from a slight critiquing point with the indie crowd, and that is that finding an artist from this genre through things like tik tok are too mainstream and therefore you can't be a true fan or whatever. I think it's just that feeling of "I found them before they were big" that makes new listeners a little ashamed of finding them after they were really only in the undercurrents.
@@studywithnat29 I get you. To me, a true fan is defined less by how you first came into contact with the music, and more about how support it after that point.
It’s safe to say any band would think dimly of any ‘true fan’ dismissing a new fan because of the platform they discovered their music on, but yours doesn’t seem to be an uncommon comment so clearly it’s something people get into a bit of a funk over.
that isn't the point tho. i found pinegrove back in the day when basement covered "problems" in a train station back, which isn't natural either. indie fans start gatekeeping when people only listen to the one song and disregard the rest of the compilation that Need 2 is on.
@@kierand9410 it's how these indie people pay for their indie clothings at thriftstores, indie-natural-discovering-music currency.
pinegrove has actually changed me for the better. when i was first getting into their music, i would literally gasp at lyrics. old friends, size of the moon, days, new friends, and the metronome are some of my all time favorite songs. i love reading everyone else’s favorites in the comments!
size of the moon is so goddamn good.
Their album "Skylight" came out at a really turbulent time in my personal life, so it holds a lot of meaning for me.
But "Cardinal" is still my favorite.
I discovered Cardinal when I was in a romantic relationship that first was at a distance but then we started to live together (first time I did that). Size of the Moon was my favorite song from the album and the lines were so direct for me: "...when we made some room and moved ourselves around in it?" represented the good times we were having in our little apartment, dancing together and feeling a lot of things being in a new city away from our families and friends. And then "we had good ideas but we never left that fucking room" was the other side, like we both shared an interest in photography and other things we wanted to do but instead of being out there doing something creative we kept outselves in that room we were living and we just got stagnant. Much text sorry, I'm just happy to see you talking about Pinegrove and some of the emo scene, just as I enjoy your fashion content
Pinegrove's lyrics. I want to scream them when I'm 80 at lost 20-year-olds. I want to sing them on a porch in Appalachia. I want to cry them into someone's neck while i smile because we both get it.
This video talking about the “Caravaggio” line is such a funny coincidence. I am a musician heavily inspired by Pinegrove, however I am currently student teaching 8th grade history. I was lesson planning today on the topic of “Baroque art” and when I saw the name Caravaggio in the textbook everything clicked. I immediately listened to Size of the Moon for conformation. Evan is such a brilliant and intelligent writer. It’s just funny to me that I had this realization earlier today, and then this video is giving me a deja vu epiphany on how brilliant Pinegrove is. Really awesome video!
Such a solid video. Loved the insight into the music and also listening to your personal story and growth. Thanks for putting this out
thank you karsten
Hey I had to reupload this video, tried a new editing software and it messed up the syncing when it first got put up. Thank you for those who pointed this out in the OG comments
One of my favorite bands in that genre ! Well done man! Don’t know if you’re into old Turnover stuff like PV or some emo/shoegaze like Gleemer but it would be so sick if you make a video about those bands one day.
I also think that Christian Holden from The Hotelier has lyrics that are quite complex but extremely powerful. Especially the album Home like Noplace Is There.
They're more country / twangy than I expected. Love it!
Good overview. They are one of the best bands live I have ever seen and I love that they lean into that with the live albums.
I think you might be a tiny bit off when you refer to country not being accepted, because their vibe when it comes to country is a lot more pre-modern country, and not mainstream "sold to the masses" country, think Morgan Wallen vs something like Johnny Cash, not that they resemble Cash at all, but their country aesthetic leans way more towards older, more respected and influential country. Also, friendly critique, you might want to spell check, you misspelled renaissance, and you would say "Hall's influence" with an apostrophe. tbh usually I wouldn't be such a stickler but your video is very good so I think you could really benefit from making sure there are few to zero easy mistakes. Hope I don't sound too nitpicky
The bit at the end where you talk about not feeling great in a scene hit me hard. Been going to shows since 13 and I feel like more and more of a stranger in the scene as years go on. People love to talk about inclusivity unless it comes to befriending a neurodivergent person.. or so that’s been my experience
thanks for this vid! as someone who loves both music and fashion, i really appreciate it and found the vid very informative, especially because i started listening this band recently
I'll never forgive myself for not finding this band sooner, but I'm so happy I've found them now
Philadelphia is STILL pumping out talent like They are Gutting a Body of Water, A Country Western, and Full Body 2. Also Feeble Little Horse, but they are from Pittsburgh
They r from Montclair nj
I believe that ‘therapist’ lied about being licensed too.
Ever since I discovered Pinegrove, they've literally become my favourite band. There's no other band or artist that comes close to their sound, feels and lyrics to me.
Some close contenders would be Snail Mail or Mac Miller, but they still don't pass PG and Evan's talent.
dawg you gave me chills in the last 40 seconds of the video
MathRock will live forever❤️
awesome analysis of the lyrics & the art!
Im so glad that i found pinegrove, it's some of my favorite music. my favorite song is def intrepid
I feel lucky to have seen them in 2017 as they were touring Europe, could'n't see them last time they were in Paris unfortunately. Hope they come back one day even if its Evan solo acoustic im fine with that :)
Found them in some Midwest emo playlist sent to me and I found all of the bands listed. It’s so awesome that they are getting mega recognized now
Holy shit u know about the BFEC. I went to Kenyon a few years after Evan. It's got an awesome lil music scene. I hung out in the pine grove all the time in college.
Thanks for this. I just discovered this band. Our time's Nirvana.
They have some smashing pumpkings 1979 into them
I love this band for years and I had no idea that they're that influential until this video but maybe because I'm not active in social media (Tiktok, Facebook, Discord, Twitter) and don't participate in niche circles in the digital spaces.
this is so beautifully explained!
2:10 this statement pains me. Especially knowing how closely some red dirt/barroom country bands align with the DIY spirit of hardcore. Once people stop sleeping, they realize there's a whole world out there
saying cope and having a copenhagen picture in the back is pure artistry.
I love you Karsten Kroening
The description of Midwest emo at the beginning is so wildly not true and unnecessary lol. Great band and deserves highlighting though.
Karsten you’re the fucking GOAT
Nice vid but how did they change indie forever lol its kinda just like you took their wikipedia page and put pictures in front of it
epic video fr thank u 👍
your house is so pretty!
I lived in south jersey and still do today. I remember seeing them all those years ago in Philly a couple times before they really started rolling. They are crazy amazing. I’m proud of the the scene we have here in the tri state area. I’m almost 30 but I’m glad my age group still have great music like this which can’t be said for the younger crowd. Emo and Punk and Indie will never die while we have anything to say about it.
this is great! pinegrove is my favorite band ever, and i love your analysis
It reminds me of Birthday Dad
Morningtime
good band
A dude in a band dated a fan/worker? Say it ain't so. 🙄
My alt friends love country music
I would've loved to discover these guys naturally before TikTok got to them
You missed something special for sure
i learned about them from a friend of a friend and saw them in august last year my favorite band ever :)
great vid
I’m new to Pinegrove although I been into other Midwest Emo/ Shoegaze stuff, a pleasant surprise to see this kinda video from you tho, always cool to see personal interests outside of fashion vids
wait... that one video was alex g & his band lolololol
Title fight brought me here. As much as it’s cringe, widwest emo Is purely spiritual. Almost like the very very early days grunge
Crazy takes, you aren't the authority on anything in your life, let alone this. Please go find a job where you aren't allowed to speak to the public.