Why Does Gen Z LOVE Shoegaze?
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wanted to try something new + make a mini video essay •ᴗ• let me know what u think!! ♡
Loved the format!
Great video! The mini essay format works really well. There's a ton of musical topics that you do this with. More please :)
Love the format!
My 16 year old son started a shoegaze project last year!
Very gud
@@DaneBass-gn2lq I hope it goes well for your son! many successes!
Honestly I’m just depressed
Haha. That’s who it’s for. 😂
Real
Real
i feel like as a gen z the reason shoegaze resonates so deeply with me and so many others years after its prime is just due to how well it can transcend boundaries like practically no other genre- its ambient, noisy, distorted, and ethereal with just the right amount of nostalgia that u cant really recreate with words how melted the music sounds and the youth can recognize no matter how long its been
love ur music!!
Love the music you make, discovered you on Spotify a while back
You've already said it, it really is a very beautiful kind of music with which you can play a lot, I'm glad to see that as an artist your point of view is genuine, you can feel the soul in it! I hope all of you who are doing shoegaze out there get to be heard!
You are what we hate. A run-on sentence with no respect for structure or punctuation. As if that's OK, because this isn't a test. It's just a UA-cam comment. This comment is utter gibberish. It says nothing. "I feel like..." is all you think you need to feel justified. You should feel ashamed. You can't articulate your opinion. Shoegaze is not for you, fella.
Man is right
it's a mixture of melancholy, nostalgia, and comfort. i love it.
shoegaze is part of a collective umbrella term that i like to call "dissociation music". im a little older than these kids (30) but thats what appeals to me. its music that just creates a mood, that i can get lost in. some of that early 2000's alt rock / pop has a similar vibe as well
That's a good way of putting it I've always described it as just intimate/introspective/introverted music like stuff I'm listening to entirely for myself. I think my first exposure to it (other than growing up around Detroit & hearing Dub Techno a lot) was the early future-garage/post-dubstep/wonky/purplenoise scene that arose in the early 2010s lots of sparse skittering beats on ethereal pads, but there's always been a thru-line y'know around the early to mid 2010s cloudrap and vaportrap and later in the late 2010s certain blends of phonk/deconstructed club carried that torch, but definitely in the 2020s like this video mentioned it really took off, and the artists who are making it are more overt about the intentions. I mean obviously you have shoegaze, but across all industry the ideas been zeitgeist because the conditions to make and listen to this sparse style of music have grown, especially with all the stuff shedtheory/marlon dubois pioneered in like ambient-rap, opium bird style beats, ambient-jerk etc. In a way it feels like direct fallout to genres like hyperpop/pc music (the recent wave of this stuff that happened post-2019 not the pioneers), rage, plugnb etc. where the critique of internet fatigue/overstimulation/web3.0 were explored but from like a 'peak' perspective whereas this is very much the 'comedown of the high' experience with rising resentment/uncertainty for excessive media/tech. Or another interpretation being this music is how we passively consume podcasts to just have noise on in the background, but it's the musical equivalent like you were saying with mood.
it sounds like drugs. most psychedlic rock doesn't sound like drugs, it sounds like people on drugs made it.
as 35 i was in the middle period where it lost popularity for sure, there were barely anyone who knew it when i was a teen. Post-rock was quite big, radiohead was big, IDM like Boards of Canada quite big and to me that was a gateway and adjacent i guess. I was ell into pj harvey and to an extent sonic youth from that too. Still in a period of getting a CD from the library to burn to CDR. The lack of variance has grown though. Bands like Mew and Autolux came out then, and got called 'shoegaze', because there weren't tons of them, and people tried to find comparison. Its amazing how its kind of specified down to a specific thing...I remember such a thing with post-rock, which seemed like a label for anything experimental at some point, yet became know for 'our band sounds like explosions in the sky' by the 2010s. I feel its getting that way now, maybe? do i even like shoegaze? does SeeFeel and Bowery Electric count today? does Ride even count today? does it have to be 'slowdive version n, but heavy'?
@@jorgepeterbarton as someone with a bit of experience using drugs, i can't say that's why i listen to these kinds of songs personally, although i can say that drugs certainly add to the dissociative experience i mentioned. i really like it when songs have moments that make me feel like im floating.
Wow I never thought of it that way.
I’m 33 and was heavily into shoegaze when I was 18 it might just be something we all do around that age lol
I listened to almost exclusively metal before i found shoegaze. i needed something not so heavy sometimes, but the indie pop was a little too light and gentle. so shoegaze was the perfect in-between
So real
doomgaze was just right for me
Shoegaze is arguably heavier than metal
Blackgaze got me into shoegaze with sadness an their split album with unreqvited and rain chamber
my first proper affection towards shoegaze comes from Deafheaven's Sunbather. It's been more than 3 years since I listened to it first, and to this day there is only a handful of days that I didn't listen to it. It slowly bled towards non-metal sounds as well, but in my opinion, the album Sunbather is the perfect mixture of wall of sound, etherealness and the harshness of the black metal sound.
shoegaze is basically psychedelic rock with more reverb, so i'm not surprised people are attracted to their dreamy, disconnect-from-reality feel to it.
The reverb is one the best parts
Literally begging you to keep doing these. This is fantastic.
I got into shoegaze in like 2017 while in college. I was dealing with a lot of depressive thoughts, and shoegaze was kind of an escape.
Flying Saucer Attack's self-titled album is a hidden gem of the 90s
Gen Xer here who adored the shoegaze bands when they were current (and resented the Britpop bands for supplanting them). Even at the time and place I grew up (suburban Dallas) there weren't lots of people into these bands. So I've been trying to evangelize My Bloody Valentine, Swervedriver, Slowdive, The Boo Radleys and the like to people for decades as well as following the neo-shoegaze and shoegaze-adjacent bands that have popped up in the meantime (Alcest, Ringo Deathstarr, Asobi Seksu, Nothing, Deafheaven, Alvvays, Parannoul, etc etc). It warms my heart that Gen Z is embracing it so much. The kids are alright.
Ringo Deathstarr ,what a great band name, It's up there with Brian Jonestown Massacre and The Charlie Watts Riots.
I'm a Gen-X Brit, who - conversely - was listening to a lot of Grunge / US Alternative when I was young, and Shoegaze went into my ears off the back of that. A Shoegaze-ajacent genre I love is Paisley Underground (mainly a West Coast scene in the late-80's). Kinda like Shoegaze mixed with Byrds-style 60's Psychedelic jangle.
I'm even older than you (I was in my late 20's when Ride's first EP's dropped) but I have to disagree a bit. A lot of the newer shoegaze that Gen Z seems to be attracted to is, as I said above, very derivative and same-y. The fact that "Wisp" is so huge speaks volumes. I read something not long ago where one of the guys in Slowdive said that a lot of bands can get the sonics and the mood right, but it's less common to find one that has the tunes. I've listened to a ton of the newer shoegaze and dream-pop stuff (plus the awful slow, loud emo that pretends to be shoegaze) and while the good stuff stands out, a lot of the second (and lower) tier stuff is all starting to sound the same -- like a record store guy I know said, "Slowdive without the chord progressions and melodies."
MBVs Loveless was a game changer. I remember when and where I first heard it, and how I felt Boo Radleys make lovely songs. "Wish I were Skinny" is just rad. And Swervedriver's Raise is insane. Laze it Up. Rave Down. So many moments of transcendence listening to old Swervo!
@@robgrano6814 I think is true of every genre's lifespan. The people who are breaking the ground and establishing some of the defining characteristics are coming from a world where the genre doesn't really exist. They are typically music geeks versed in other styles that they are meshing together different ideas. JaMC is some Beatles, Velvet Underground, and Beach Boys whirled about with distortion pedals and sibling hatred. But, once the style is somewhat stable- in that you can hear a song and tell if it is shoegaze or not- then the influences and background of the performers narrows. Then the process starts all over again. I like innovation in music and is really one of the main things that I look for, however, it isn't for every band. Some do very well in their genre niche. And then there are the tag-a-longs and less talented bands that will dilute the whole scene. But that is cool, too. It gives motivation to innovate. Otherwise, the Ramones wouldn't have started as a finger to disco and Post-Punk wouldn't have started as a finger to punk.
deftones was always shoegaze adjacent
i think that played a big part
for about a year i've been looking for a rock genre that immulates the sound that would always give me goosebumps. deftones introduced me to dreamy styled rock i knew that it was the style i was looking for, and after finding that shoegaze was a legitimate genre of music, i realized that this style is everything i could've ever asked for 😭
super happy to have been a part of this!!! answering the survey truly gave me the best insight on why i love the genre so much and reading my friends and some stranger's answers was magical. thank you for making this!!! much love
I got into shoegaze back in like 2009-2010 through my friends in school
I always thought of it as our little niche because nobody knew it but us
Crazy to see it’s popularity a over decade later
I'm so glad to have been part of this, shoegaze isn't my favourite genre but is near and dear to my heart, and seeing it becoming more known and appreciated has been a welcomed surprise.
I think the reason I love Shoegaze so much and why it’s such a huge comfort to me is because to me no matter how I feel, be it sad or angry or feeling on top of the world, it can just fit and pair with all those emotions. For example the song “When the sun hits” by Slowdive. It can be read as a sad song or even a spiteful song full of gloom with lyrics like “sweet thing I watch you burn away!” But also a hopeful and inspiring song especially with the lyric that flows into the chorus “It matters where you are!” Which is incredible because it makes the song bend around you and just help connect and confirm your feelings Xx
AWESOME VIDEO ❤
"Confirm your feelings"? Yikes. You would never have said that when this genre existed. Get a spine.
@@clvrswine Okay so, he needs to get a spine and you need to be less of a dick 🤷🏽♀️
@@clvrswine kinda confused what you’re on about? Or do you just like being rude for no reason?
X'er here, my revival has been through Blackgaze. Alcest is huge.
Have you heard Kardashev? Amazing band too!
Millenial here and same! Post-rock and alcest and I think Spotify recommended me Slowdive back in 2015 or so. So, so happy they gathered and are active again now!
Arguably Ride?! Is that a joke?! They were at the center of it. I was there. I saw them with Slowdive in 1992. Nowhere is a seminal Shoegaze LP.
Right!? I've been looking for this comment when I heard that. If someone say that about Ride, then it's clear it never listened to them before. Before posting these kind of videos people needs to get the facts straight by proper research (not by repeating random lists/articles found on Google or social media). Otherwise, I think it's awesome Shoegaze is getting the new love it deserves.
i'm an Xer and MBV was my favorite band but i never got into Ride or Slowdive, maybe because i came from post punk and it was too "pop" for me (nothing wrong with it) . I still listen to shoegaze today but i prefer the "harder" stuff like Whirr.
Seriously. I had to stop the video to post when I heard that. Nowhere is a god tier album. I listened to that, and Dinosaur Jr's Green Mind almost exclusively my entire senior year in high school.
I remember being a 16 yr old kid in a tiny town on the Gulf Coast of Texas and having my mind blown after choosing a free cassette copy of MBV Isn't Anything based on the cover art from BMG music catalog (look it up whippersnapper!
Thanks for this video 🖤 And glad I contributed to it since I answered the questionnaire ;)
I’m a Gen Z bassist and most shoegaze is just really samey to me. I went to a shoegaze show a few months ago and 2 of the 3 bands sounded exactly the same on each song lol. The third band being Growing Pains, which were pretty good and outshined the other bands.
from my experience shoegaze bands always sound horrible live
When influences / inspirations arent as diverse this is what happens
yeh there is that. that a lot of the new bands don't do anything, they are like cover bands. whilst the original bands were pretty innovative/experimental, i rather see the spirit of that, but then people wouldn't call it shoegaze.
@@jorgepeterbarton EXACTLY!!! The shoegaze movement was coined for just how bizarre the guitar playing really was at the time, and now anyone can make a "shoegaze" song. There isn't any sense of newness to this revival, just rehashes or grasps at what these bands accomplished 3 decades ago.
as a millennial/gen z guitarist who’s been into gaze for awhile it makes me happy to see more ppl get into the genre and expand upon it with bands like narrowhead and nothing
I am a Zoomer, Zillennial, Geriatric Gen-Z, what have you. I got into Shoegaze when I was in high school through Deftones. The genre felt like a more peaceful and lush place than my own head as a closeted and sad teenager. Seeing this genre become more recognized by younger people around my age makes me feel understood and hopeful for our future.
The fusion and crossover into other genres are also SO cool!!! The Full of Hell and Nothing collab album made my life.
i think its like this cyclical nostalgia thing where the media that we experience as younger kids is made by the previous generation of older 20's/30-sometings and reflects the past of that generation, so as we grow up, we end up being influenced by the aesthetics of that generation. like a 30 year old writing a comic in 2005 is going to be influenced by their late teens/early 20s a lot (so mid 90's). and then someone born in 1997 reads that comic and gets all these early impressions from the aesthetics of that era. there's just always this kinda lag until we get to our adolescence and start actually experiencing art made by our own generation for our own generation, but that lag is still experienced as a strong influence. i totally agree with the assessment that shoegaze does hit some chords along the lines of the how similar the anxieties of the mid-90s are to the 2020's
Really good assessment. I did a write-up on shoegaze back in 2020 for my friends and was surprised how much it took off for them during the pandemic. Your findings were really similar to mine when I asked about the appeal. Here's hoping these recent numbers will push Kevin Shields to finally release the MBV album lol. Great video!
There is yet another one on hold? At least you'll never have to wait as long as we did. 22 years with no idea that it would even happen. One day, boom, there it was.
Something that's been kinda lost now is that shoegaze is supposed to be unspeakably loud. The shoegaze show should "make your pants flap" because it hits you with such a deafening wall of noise, at least in theory. That was an important counterbalance to its chill vibes, and gave it the punk edge it needed in a hard ass world. But when you only play it on your phone, that's lost, so I wonder if GenZ is trying to pick it all the way up or if it's just lofi beats to not study to.
I like to play shoegaze very loud
bands aren't loud no more. and do gen z even own suitable hifis?
Extremely loud music is overrated. I want to actually hear it and not just have ears blasted off. Overly really takes away from the music listening experience because it destroys the nuances of music. So I don’t think it’s a bad thing that people don’t blast shoegaze at ridiculous volumes anymore.
I’m old. I was a radio DJ at my college radio station from 1987 to 1992. I remember playing the album Psycho Candy by the Jesus and mary chain in my car and the program director was riding with me and he said, “dude i think you have a bad air leak in your car”. Then along came the Album Just for a day by Slowdive in 1991 and the album Nowhere by Ride and ive been hooked ever since. I’ve seen Slowdive 3 times in the last 4 years. I saw MBV once about 12 years ago. I love MBV but now i have permanent hearing damage after their show. Dont forget about proto shorgaze bands like the Cocteau Twins!
I’m so glad you began with clips from The Perks of Being a Wallflower; Charlie’s mixtape to Sam introduced me to the band Ride, and it was over for me from there. ❤️
Shoegaze helps me with feels and mentals, too. ☺️
i think the combo of the loud constant stimulation with the droning stability is oddly calming
thank you for this i’m so glad i got to be apart if the survey!
Cool doc! Was glad that I could answer some of your burning questions :)
Your channel genuinely makes me feel like I'm in a record shop. Such a cool vibe!
great video Kelsie, loved the video essay style!
Good stuff Kelsie 🖤
I got into shoegazing because my favorite band deftones is very much influenced by shoegaze. Slowdive is my favorite of that genre. Can’t wait to see them in may
Seeing Starflyer 59 on that page of bands sure made my heart happy.
This was a really interesting video, thanks! I was growing up in London when it was happening and for a brief moment in time we had places like Syndrome (big ups to that grumpy bouncer who never checked ID properly) and you really felt like this was *something* and then it felt like London was just wall to wall britpop/grunge within the space of a year or two. I'm so glad a new generation has found all these awesome bands and albums!
Cool, another oldy moldy like me!
You know I’ve been wondering this for the longest time because I work on a record store here in Santiago, Chile and at least once a day some Z’er comes in and asks if we have either my bloody valentine’s loveless or Slowdive’s souvlaki and it’s always those two… i’ve talked to a couple of them and said that they should listen to other bands like ride, catherine wheel or whirr.
What I think it’s amazing though is what labels like numero are doing. Helping to grow Emo by putting out a lot of forgotten heroes of the genre. A lot of people have come to the store and ask me for Indian summer, moss icon and karate and some other alternative adjacent bands like Unwound and duster.
Love the content :)
shoegaze artist parannoul probably makes the most emotional music I've ever heard and I'm not sure if I'd still be around if it weren't for his music. it's motivated me to start writing my own shoegaze music as a way to process my emotions and has helped me become a more tender, emotional, and better person as a whole
don't let the rainbow in your heart fade 💙
I remember mentioning in passing that I had been listening to my bloody valentine a couple years ago and it turned out my dad had been a huge fan of them during the loveless era and had seen them when they played a show in our college town in the Midwest. Was a wholesome bonding moment over an interest that I never knew we shared
i found shoegaze in 2021 just before my college was about to reopen first time in more than a year. when i finally went to college in November i had a very wide spectrum of experiences and it really validated the feelings of nostalgia, heartbreak, warmth, yearning etc. feelings which might be sad but also have a certain beauty or romanticization to them. i remember being super drunk in my dorm with "when you sleep" on loop and i just couldn't stop crying. even though i was in pain i feel it was a good and healthy way for me to let out pent up emotions.
Great vid. Coming from a Gen X er who lived thru the shoegaze era (and was in a shoegaze band on campus playing gigs in Champaign IL) don’t forget Curve. Massive distorto guitar layers, incredible rhythms and Toni Halliday on vocs. The band was loud and sublime.
Great video Kelsie - love the new format!
Great video. Really informative. The Jesus and Mary Chain predates shoegaze by several years. Their wall of sound mixed with melodic pop was a progenitor of shoegaze.
Came here to say this. The JAMC were ahead of everyone!!
If you want one of the best classic early era shoegaze albums check out the very first album by The Verve, A Storm In Heaven (don’t be put off by the later britpop work. The debut is stunning).
Great video! I feel like the trajectory of shoegaze lately has been mirrored by the post-punk/goth scene as of late as well. Huge scenes internationally and in the US -- highly recommend checking out the goth/post-punk scene in Latin America, it's awesome.
do you have some bands recommendation ? im trying to listen to more latino bands
@@joowiez1618 For sure! I recommend:
French Police
Guerra Fria
San Coyote
DUVVII
Depresion Sonora
blood club
Future Nobodies
Twin Tribes
Fatamorgana
Belgrado
Las Eras
Velvet Wounds
Friolento
La Texana
@@narcocastillo3783 thx for reccomandation. Btw, idk if u know them em already but since you mentioned La texana you should check out te vi en un planetario. The singer is his gf
Really interesting. I had listened to some of these groups before, but I never heard of the term "Shoegaze" until music meme pages started posting about it.
I've been listening to shoegaze since I was 13 my dad gave me an Ipod nano that had artists like hum, oslo and the legends. It's been so awesome watching it grow because now have so much more great music to discover.
You did a wonderful job and thank you! This is the best cliff notes Interpretation of A genre very close to my heart having grown up with it. Wish you nothing but great things in your future endeavors! Cheers
I got into shoegaze in the early 90's and never stopped listening to it. I think all of the reasons I heard in your video are the reasons I loved it. It just struck an emotional chord with me. It also inspired me to play music, and I have always gravitated toward and played music that at least has elements of shoegaze in it. It's kind of amazing that out of all the genres to spawn from the late 80's, and early 90's this one has persevered. really great video.
I can definitely back up the theory spotify's algorithm played a big part. for years ive always listened to the discover weekly's to discover new music, and at some point around 2020-2021 shoegaze started getting fed into my recommended songs. I was listening to shoegaze before I even knew what "shoegaze" was, I only learned about the term maybe a year later
Video essay is a win 🎉
Great video! I especially love all the data.
Nice take. You captured he deep contradiction of shoegaze - that we want to numb our thoughts, but are desperate to feel.
I started playing shoegaze in 1990, and I think the cultural mood, zeitgeist even, was similar. We were unearthing mid-60s garage rock with new guitar tones, a touch of Paisley Underground, Cocteau Twins. We were tired of the 80s anxiety, recessions, stalemates in politics, and just nothing seemed to be coming right. So - I want to scream at the world, in my own private hellhole was kind of the vibe.
Still into it, and love TAGABOW, Flyying Colours, Hotline TNT.
i got into it back in like 2008 or 2009 with the cocteau twins.. then moved into other things like daysleepers, curve, mbv, whirr, etc
Yay. Ppl in the 90s/00s thought my music was weird but now it’s kewl!
Super late to the party but I’m geriatric millennial, and I was exposed to Shoegaze music by lost in translation film which had both MBV and JMC in it. It also has probably my favorite song of any soundtrack “City Girl” by the man himself Kevin Shields. Then I went to MySpace and looked for similar bands and found the others. I remember seeing Lost in Translation in theaters around 03-04? I was 18-19 and just being so mesmerized by the sound and how it felt like you were more like experiencing it rather than listening to it. As I’ve gotten older and I have younger siblings who are Gen Z, they’ve asked me for music recommendations and Shoegaze was one of the few things I mentioned to them that they liked.
i got in to shoegaze through hyperpop funny enough. Quannnic is an artist i discovered in 2020 that primarily did loud electronic stuff but dropped their album kenopsia in 2021 that combined a mostly shoegaze sound with some hyperpop elements and i fell in love with it.
I love this 💞💞
i think the reason why shoegaze is so popular now is because it's kind of supposed to be. It could've (and maybe should have) been the big 90s thing that grunge music turned out to be. Shoegaze was drowned by other big genres like Grunge in the US and britpop in the UK. but the fact that it got less critical acclaim and didnt do well commercially obviously did not affect the music itself, which has a lot of potenatial for popularity. And now thanks to streaming services and other platforms where music can be shared in a more democratic way shoegaze is able to become what if was supposed to be in the 90s.
I have personally witnessed this phenomenon! My son is 16. And he is a guitar player. I was in my 20's when shoegaze first hit. I think it is just a natural progression from listening to Nirvana, Soundgarden, etc. Eventually, you get to the stuff on the edges. Shellac, Unwound, Melvins. That usually includes shoegaze. Smashing Pumpkins was my son's gateway. My Bloody Valentine shares a lot sonically. He got so deep into the genre that he recorded a shoegaze EP a few months back. It's on all of the services. Sonic Wave Failure 'dark'
I find it so ironic because when they first came out, Slowdive were not very popular and a lot of people hated from, but now they seem to be so popular with younger kids for some reason😅.
An underlying cause for this uptick in support is authenticity. Shoegaze is immortal in its authenticity for reasons I'll explain. Authenticity is a sentiment echoing back through post punk and its predecessors. Almost like clockwork as soon as the post punk groups achieved absolute mainstream success, the post punk 'ego death' began. Albeit post punk bands deconstructing their sound more and more to destroy ego in the name of authenticity. But even still the transition is never seamless. You can't completely abandon song structure in pop music. Shoegaze is immortal because of this undying purity of a deconstructed, faceless sound that exists as its own organism. Authenticity is always in high demand in an alternative setting and the music press at the time knew exactly how to suppress what they couldn't market. Now, recommendation algorithms and people alike don't have to put up with that shit anymore and its easily facilitated. A theory as to why shoegaze is the placeholder term, a shibboleth among the alternative scene is because it quickly and easily distinguishes what can be deemed as similar enough to our tastes for us to care. Probably why that horrible term 'zoomergaze' exists. Shoegaze is a password for authenticity. It's wonderful that the consensus is shoegaze though. I identify with it like it's my left leg.
Personally, I started listening to shoegaze after trying to find something that could hold a candle to the Disintegration album, and as a result I discovered Slowdive. I wanted some faithful representation of completely genuine emotional resonance and that continues to motivate my desire to seek out better music and have good taste to this day. Shoegaze is the closest thing to being able to reach out and touch something you can't see. Textured noise incarnate in the context of pop music.
this is why hardcore will never die too, the scene is so real and passion fuelled. it had so much energy back when black flag and bad brains were coining the genre, when bands like sick of it all and hatebreed were evolving the genre, when trapped under ice carried it through the mud and now hardcore is arguably the biggest its ever been with turnstile, knocked loose, drain, speed, etc. hardcore will NEVER die ever, the culture is too authentic and filled with love and its constantly both evolving yet staying true to its roots
Nonsense. Post-punk is much more prolific in our times. How you connect Disintegration with Slowdive is quite insane. There are very, very few Shoegaze bands. The term is misapplied and you clearly have fallen for that misuse. You seem to have forgotten that Brit-Pop reared its head around the same time. Too many acts were branded Shoegaze while they had nothing to with the sound. While Moose is championed as the source for the word Shoegaze, they are really a Britpop band. Was Lush Shoegaze? Perhaps, for a moment. I think what you wanted after Disintegration was more Cure, make-up and puffy hair. Shoegaze is not about image. MBV never transitioned like Slowdive did (to Mojave 3). Shoegaze is and was very tied to Ethereal. The word Authenticity has nothing to with any of it. It was always a blurred, smudged genre that only existed in the minds of people that can't play instruments.
@@clvrswine Not to sound indignant, but you completely missed the point.
i also found Slowdive via Disintegration. At the time, i became fascinated with the "wall of sound" aesthetic. I also found Cocteau Twins via Disintegration. 🙌
It's been wild to watch shoegaze, and to a lesser extent, grunge, make this return. I was in a touring band from 2010-2013 that played kind of grungey punk and we played with a lot of bands that were playing some variation of shoegaze or another. So it's been trying to come back since, as you mentioned, bands like Nothing, Whirr, Ringo Deathstar, etc but it didn't really break through until 2018-2019. I just think it's interesting to see that these 90's nostalgia genres have been stirring in the collective consciousness for such a long time, to watch them finally break out into a much broader audience is really cool.
I"VE LITERALLLLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS. Like when I was younger (I'm 27) and in highschool no one knew what shoegaze was. I felt so alone. AND NOW IT'sS POPULAR WTF. I was called a dam HIPSTER! for liking shoegaze and collecting vinyls.
It's crazy to think that MBV wasn't on spotify before 2021, and in just three years they got extremely popular
I got into shoegaze around 2001. I was working at a record store, I was 18, and I was building up my musical knowledge. My Bloody Valentine's Loveless was coming up on a lot of "important album" lists, so I bought it. I had already been into goth music, and Sonic Youth, and shoegaze just seemed to go hand in hand. I liked it because it could blend beauty and harshness together, and gave me a feeling of longing. I remember bands like Curve and Cranes blending into that general mood. I think the post-rock movement brought these musical ideas to a wider audience, and shoegaze was rediscovered not only as a main genre, but as a textural addition that can make anything sound bigger and lush.
As a gen Zer (23), My introduction to shoegaze came from a blend of learning guitar and finding music similar to artists I already enjoyed in goth, darkwave, ambient. This took me to exploring dark ambient groups like Godspeed! You Black Emperor. From there I found blackgaze and deasfheaven due to the similar roots in black metal. From there I went to Shoegaze and realized it was a sister genre of dreampop which I was already familiar with due to artists like Beach House. Then i found ambient shoegaze with artists like glare and duster. I think the biggest reason for its connection to gen Z is due to the lasting influence on all of alternative music by Shoegaze and dreampop, Id argue we wouldnt have artist like Lana Del Rey, Phoebe Bridgers, and Men I Trust without the influence or artists like, Robin guthrie, Bilinda Butcher, Liz Fraser, Kevin Shields, Rachel Goswell and Neil Halstead.
Same, I found shoegaze through goth and dreampop music. Shoegaze is like a good mix of aspects I like from both genres. Anything that sounds remotely similar to Cocteau Twins, I will listen to it.
I got into shoegaze about 10-20 years ago, when Kevin Shields created the soundtrack for "Lost in translation" which brought him some media attention. It never was really popular, but I always kept coming back to it from time to time. My Bloody Valentine played at a local summer festival in 2018 and I'm glad I could see them - quite an experience. They ended with never ending noisy distortion until the audience left the room. Not many people were there, and almost no younger people at all. Hopefully they play concerts again sometimes.
Shoegaze tickles my cingulate cortex, an ephemeral bliss that I can only describe as
Thanks for the reminder to go back and listen to Nothing "Tired of Tomorrow". Was in a dark place when I found that album and honestly, it helped me feel my emotions better rather than numb them.
really nice, thank u
i'm really glad that it has become a niche that keeps growing up, its so crazy that pandemic really did that
Holy Fawn and Slow Crush are my favorite new shoegaze bands. Good video btw.
Saw Holy Fawn a few months ago and they were great. I got to talk to the guitarist and he was a swell fellow.
8:58 That is one of the best interpretations of Shoegaze.
I know this is off topic but your hair is flawless
Sonic Youth had a lot to do with the sonic landscape that shoegaze drew from creating washes of sound and while SY are more frenetic and dissonant, their seminal albums hold up precisely because of that etherial landscape they created that influenced so many.
The fact that Kim Gordon just dropped a hip hop /noise album that's as relevant as anything being created by people 1/3 her age is a testament to her roots in the post punk sonic landscape that shoegaze took a lot from.
I was so fortunate to experience Shoegaze music when it started, and this music just stays in your bones forever. I was EXTREMELY fortunate to see My Bloody Valentine in concert many years ago - loudest concert ever, but such an incredible experience.
I'm really excited to hear that this genre is having a big comeback, and I await the next wave of artists with anticipation. All you awesome youngsters gotta go into the garage or basement and start a band!
I just found your channel! it's dope to see people of similar ages sharing their passion for music and its genres. My friends in high school used Rate Your Music and went DEEP into discussions and ratings. It's nice to see folks who share the similar identity I held so close to myself and my friends. Cheers to more of these videos. YOU SHOULD DO HARDCORE next!!!. not only has hardcore gained a resurgence. It's going to be more interesting if/when it dies down. So many bands have been signed. All from the Bay or LA. Will history repeat itself? Will it blow up and die like hair metal?
cheers to your videos and thanks for reading.
I found shoegaze from a best of 90’s music list. Loveless was number 2 on a Pitchfork list. I burned a cd of it, and I loved it. It was loud, distorted, and ambient at the same time- good stuff.
I had heard many shoe gaze band before but Lost in Translation was a big influence. I listened to that soundtrack on repeat.
As a Gen X-er who grew up with and worshipped many of these bands (and still do!), I’d say this is a very accurate - and brilliant- assessment. And it’s so heartwarming to see these stats! Thanks Gen Z for giving it life again - Shoegaze is forever! Xx
i remember first hearing the smashing pumpkins' mayonaise in 2015, the hunt for similar music led me to figuring out one of my favorite genres ever
Total Ne0n eclipse of the Sounds! Ears WATCHING!
The algorithm seems to really push my shoegaze stuff, which I’m happy about (being an 80s child)
I suppose that makes sense if Gen Z are consuming it so wildly.
Great video! Awesome research! 🎸
in a more psycho-social analysis, gen z is a very lonely and depressed generation, and we have so much at our disposal to “escape in”, and the sounds of shoegaze very much feel like being in a distant, softer, fuzzier world. That depends on what artists/albums you’re listening to though, and that’s also why Cocteau Twins and Lush are my favorite shoegaze/dream pop bands.
8:59 damn right
Love it. Been into this sound since picking up Psychocandy by The Jesus and Mary Chain when it came out. I'm enjoying the playlist and finding a lot of new bands I like. Try out Mutton Gun "With Wood" from the early 90s. Love Rain Rain. Can only be found now on Band Camp, but it's a nice deep cut.
For me, I was a fan of both Deftones and the Smashing Pumpkins for years, both bands obviously heavily influenced by shoegaze, and I discovered the band Boris in early 2019. At some point I came across their cover of "Sometimes" by MBV and upon seeing the name of the original artist I was like "no way they covered Bullet For My Valentine" and I forgot about it for a few months. Then in early 2020, Loveless found its way into my UA-cam recommended tab and it all clicked.
This is more about future directions of indie rock not necessarily a "shoegaze revival". I recommend listening to DKFM internet radio.
I'm in my 30s and discovered shoegaze back in the mid 2000s when I was in college. I'm so, so happy it got popular and has a broader audience because now I can listen to so much more of it.
Shoegaze is gonna have a moment in the mainstream in 5 years like pop punk did in 2021/22. You can just tell Shoegaze is gonna blow up soon
as a gen z, i found shoegaze because i like to explore genre influences and it was natural from liking 90s alternative music to find shoegaze. i love the layered textures and melancholy of the music and the transitional feeling it captures. in addition, i love the director gregg araki and he tends to score his movies with industrial and shoegaze
EDIT: also if you are looking for good shoegaze/slowcore: get into vyva melinkolya her music is incredible. they are gutting a body of water also are very very solid
I'm gonna be that person be super bummed about no Cocteau Twins mention. Good video though.
i think people consider them dream pop (which is just a poppier shoegaze really) since their most popular songs of today are more upbeat like cherry colored funk, heaven or las vegas, and sea swallow me.
@@cocteautwin They’re still essential to what shoegaze drew influences from as it formed in the late 80s.
I’ve stuck with SoundCloud since… I think 2013/2014 (fresh out of middle school, extremely emotional). I experienced finding music for the first time. Stuff the majority hasn’t listened to. I was entirely to myself, exploring, discovering. My climb to shoegaze took many years, but during that time, I unintentionally discovered a shoegaze song. It was Fall by Plant Cell. After years of my vaporwave/future funk era, I went to indie pop/rock. Then I went back to plant cell. Still gradually becoming the fan of the genre I am today. I also despise Spotify. It hardly has a lot of the songs I’ve liked on SoundCloud, especially the heavier shoegaze tracks :/ which kinda hurts.
Love your video and the revival of Shoegaze ❤ there are some great Shoegaze Bands from Germany rn. Definitely check out Hyperlilly and Attic Ocean
I’m 23 years old and in a shoegaze band, I worry a lot like I’m gonna seem like we’re following a trend or something even though I know that’s a dumb thing to be worried about. We just love this style and being loud. I was slowly but surely building this sound before I even realized it and once we started finding how we really wanted to sound it just fit with exactly what I wanted to sound/feel like
Also, I heard Nothing for the first time years ago before I really understood what shoegaze was and loved it. Awesome band
I’m 22 right now but discovered shoegaze around 2020 my freshman year in college. I’m a guitar player, I play all kinds of stuff but mostly rock/indie. I listened to bedroom pop and dream pop around that time and from UA-cam and social media I learned the term, “wall of sound” so I googled bands that were like that and found souvlaki space station by slowdive, I instantly loved that and I’m like this is what I’m looking for, and shortly after found mbv, and that cemented it for me.
Check out The Grateful Deads Wall Of Sound
I discovered Shoegaze as a kid in the 90's watching 120 minutes and it never went away for me.
0:21 jarvis cocker??? dude i love pulp!!!
Good video essay - and you are just as cute as a bunny! Keep up the good work!
Bojack Horseman introduced me to shoegaze and dream pop. Well, kinda.
I was watching videoclips of the songs that played during the show and UA-cam started recommending similar indie bands such as Alvvays, Men I Trust and Fazerdaze.
My favorite shoegaze/dream pop songs:
• Cherry Coloured Funk - Cocteau Twins (I saw you like it too, yaaay)
• Dreams Tonite - Alvvays
• Pearl - Chapterhouse
• Dsco - Sweet Trip