Side note... this scene feels so natural, like a real conversation between real people. Movies usually don’t have either acting or writing that is natural like this. The small things, like how they talk over each other, help intimate scenes like this a lot
Right. Like in Blood in Blood out, when they're crusin in the lowrider, you can hear them talking about when Miklo used to spend the night and how bad his farts smelled. That's just things cousins talk about. I always thought just that one part shows you how close they were.
Well, Abraham DOES have a point! Being a Mexican American is indeed tough! And it can be EXHAUSTING to be more Mexican than the Mexicans, and more American than the Americans at the same time!
"We gotta prove to the Mexicans HOW MEXICAN WE ARE, We gotta prove to the Americans HOW AMERICAN WE ARE...WE GOTTA BE TWICE AS MEXICANS AS THE MEXICANS AND TWICE AS AMERICAN AS THE AMERICANS... IT'S EXHAUSTING!!!" EPIC!!!
this scene is my favorite. i am mexican-american my great grandfather fought in world war 1. not 2 but 1. that was in 1917. been american for decades since way back and yet they treat us like we just crossed the border and mexicans treat me and my family as sellouts. its exhausting!
PhatCrayonz but at the end of the day you have to be who you are what runs through our veins is our culture our history! We may be born here in America but our culture our blood is Mexican at least that’s the way I see it and the way I’m raising my children. Where American because he piece of paper so soon but her blood is Mexican our way of life is Mexican we are 100% Chicanos. And we have to make sure there are kids know about our history speaking Spanish learning about the culture that runs through their veins
StuUngar hell no dude. You must live in California or the west coast. I live in North Carolina and constantly travel all around the east coast and there’s hardly any Mexicans or Hispanics I see besides going down to Florida
I was born and raised in México, for all of you Mexican-Americans we love you and you are our brothers and sisters. Los mexicanos nacen en todo el mundo
Thank you brother. I’m mexican-american. Ive been trying to connect to my roots and extended family and i felt the love. You have a beautiful country and we love you guys too. ✊🏽heres to even better comaraderie between us!
I’m sitting at my vanity and crying as I read this. I was born in Mexico but was brought to America very early. The constant ridicule and outcasting from Mexican people has left me completely disconnected. I can’t speak the language and I try so hard to learn yet, it’s never been enough. Thank you for your kind words. You really pulled me out of a dark place. It’s so nice to see someone be kind. I hope you receive nothing but good things in your life. Also that you be rewarded in the next. 💜🌺
Matthew Cantu Wow I’ve never seen that mix before lol. the “popular” mix i see is mexican and white🤢 how did ur parents meet if you don’t mind telling me
Very true as a Hispanic who was born in America. My parents made sure even though I was born in the USA, I always am proud of my Peruvian heritage. I'm bilingual and I'm proud of being Peruana con todo mi alma ♡ I love my culture and that I spoke Spanish mostly at home then when I was in school, I'd speak English.
Amen, although my case was when I first went to school after moving to Texas from Chicago, I'm pretty sure I found it hard to speak English because I could not understand it. I could not say the word present as in here when my teacher was taking attendance. My mom and dad were born in Mexico but applied to move to the US legally so my sisters and I were born on US soil.
@@amandagarza8154 well get to learning. You're mexican who doesn't know spanish that really is sad. I was born in Brownsville, TX next to the border i know spanish. You are what we call "pocho" someone who doesn't know spanish. You're 30 and haven't even tried to learn spanish. I can smell the whitewash in you but its not your fault. Shame on your parents for not teaching you spanish.
@@kenpachizarakithebeast3381 have you seen people from Argentina, Uruguay, heck even Southern Parts of Mexico? Novelas? Latinos come in all races bro. To say the Spanish language is "brown" only reinforces your ignorance on the topic and your lack of qualifications to have a justifiable opinion for ridiculing Amanda for not speaking Spanish.
I’m so thankful that my step dad insisted on me speaking Spanish. Made me read books in Spanish and in English. Now I have a beautiful sister that I also passed that treat to her as well. She is in second grade now and her teacher says that she speaks both languages very well. Gracias a Dios que mi padre Me enseñó a valorar mi cultura Y nunca estar avergonzada de donde vengo. I miss him very much 💕
Edward James Olmos went off scrip during this whole scene I guarantee it this is his own person philosophy of being Mexican American I swear to God this scene is not scripted when comes to Edward James Olmos he is the man.
I came here cuz I was feeling down and wanted to hear somebody else explain why it's so hard to deal with both societies when neither one accepts you. One of my best friends is half black, half white and we totally relate on the same subject. I love this scene so much!
it would just be easier to live in Mexico it's all brown people everyone speak Spanish as Mexican culture all the cops are brown simple right? And you don't have to deal with white people
Dang it is tough being a minority in America because we got so much to live up to. No wonder people are always fighting about who has it tough because we all do in different ways. It is like how can you compare when there is so much we have in common.
This scene is so relatable to me as a Dominican-American. My parents came to this country with nothing. I was born here and at the age of 7 we moved to DR. I lived there for 12 ½ years and many Dominicans think that I am too gringo. Here's the thing. To many Americans I am too Dominican. It's a vicious cycle trying to prove yourself more American than the Americans and MORE Dominican than the Dominicans. Not to mention the internalized racism I had to endure there by people who are brown with a light or dark shade and some tanned skinned Dominicans or white. It's REALLY harsh
'When you speak it you speak it a little funny' I can relate 😂 I'm half Hispanic/half Italian living in America ... it's exhausting. I feel what Abraham is saying.
...very real scene, most choose a side. My grandmother was a Mexican immigrant, came to U.S. and was "Americanized", didn't teach any of her kids Spanish language/culture. Although my great-grandmother could barely speak English...guess she didn't want to deal with the hassel of being "More Mexican than the Mexicans"...Que Dios la tenga en su Gloria.
The casting of Edward James Olmos in Selena was excellent. He brought a great dimension to the movie. He's a great actor, and as a Mexican-American myself, I relate to this very much.
This is so true, as a Hispanic, I was born in America, my mom was born in Bolivia but still I was born in the USA. I still do not rlly know how to speak Spanish rlly well and when I am around my Hispanic family it’s like I have to act a different way towards them and act differently it’s so frustrating
@Chris Honestly for the longest time I thought my Spanish was alright, until I actually noticed how pefect Spanish in Spanish speaking country is. It was then I realized I basically grew up speaking Spanglish, lol
Best scene ever, not only you have to proof yourself but add the factor of moving to a third country now you have 3,4,Or 5 worlds in your head and hearth to be better, "It's exausting "
I'm half Mexican and half Honduran and this spoke volumes to me. Hispanics see me and automatically assume I speak Spanish (which I barely do) and my fellow Americans tell me to go back to my country, even though I was born here. Sad to see how even after this movie came out, things still haven't changed 💔
Same here, Sister. I'm also half-Honduran and half-Mexican. With at least 3 cultures, it's more exhausting when being more "Mexican, Honduran, and American" at the same time. I do speak Spanish, but I do have cousins who can't, and assumptions are equally as hurtful when someone is belittled in their own family/culture.
Honestly like I’m American(first generation african American) and Nigerian. I’m expected to speak like black people and act like them or I’m not black I’ll be considered “white-wash” but I’m also supposed to act like Nigerians and speak Igbo or I am considerd American more than Nigerian but I can’t do any of that which makes me in the position that I feel that I just don’t belong anywhere
I feel your pain, brother. I was born in the UK to Nigerian parents, and I had a pretty happy childhood growing up in our predominantly white part of South London. As a kid I wasn't aware of racism, and my mother never discussed it with me. When my father found a job with NEPA, my mother and siblings joined him in Afam, a rural area near Port Harcourt where the NEPA staff quarters was situated. People there used to pick on me because I spoke perfect English with a slight accent, and I had to adjust my speech to blend in properly although my father banned me from speaking Nigerian Pidgin. People would cast mean glares at me because of my birth country which I thought was just stupid. Even teachers used to pick on me - anytime I did something wrong they'd bring up my British citizenship. To be fair, I should have learned to speak Igbo, and I now regret not learning my language, but my sister could speak Igbo fairly well and she still went through that grief. I'm back in the UK now, and most of the teasing I receive still comes from black people. I'm not supposed to be well-spoken because I'm black? I'll always be proud of my heritage, and I'm even happy we moved there, it's just my own people I can't stand because some of the worst racism I've ever received came from my own kind. As for the white people I've encountered, some of them are surprised to hear a black woman speak English with a non-stereotypical accent, but when it comes to finding a job I'm often rejected. I had to wait years before I finally gained admission onto a PGCE programme - some of the universities wouldn't even call me for an interview. I tried gaining admission with an agency to obtain classroom experience, and they were so rude. Apparently they only accepted people from redbrick universities - the UK version of Ivy League - which was absolute rubbish. Was it something to do with my surname? Sad.
In my teenage years in the early to mid 1990's, Janet Jackson and the late Selena. Of course, growing up as a kid in the 1980's was the Grass Roots and Los Tigres del Norte. Kenny Rogers and Vincente Fernandez. R.I.P. to both Bacon Cheeseburger and a Root Beer Float Tacos (Carne Asada) or Tostadas and a Horchata. Grilled Cheese Sandwich or Quesadilla Baseball or Futbol (Soccer) Can't live without the classic cars. Have a nice day/night.
I remember seeing this in Spanish class in high school. I don't remember anything else about the class, but this scene stuck with me. I can't personally relate due to being a white American, but I think this an important lesson for everyone to consider. Be good to your fellow man. Who knows how much time we have left on this rock? Make the most of it and just accept people for who they are.
I feel this so hard, especially since I'm half white/half Mexican. Mexican kids always called me "white boy" and white people are like "You're not white. Your last name is Rodriguez." I can't win lmao
Im filipino-american, i learned Spanish first and English second. And the way I learned Spanish was speaking it fast, and when I speak Spanish, white speak just be racist and say “why are you trying to be Mexican,” and other Mexican-Americans which I hate when my class mates say that. I love mexican Americans thought it’s just the people in my class are ignorant.
I'm Mexican-American and Edward James Olmos' rant is true now more than ever... especially in this political climate. but, Jennifer is right. it's a good thing we have our frijoles and tortillas
I think Ed was saying that Mexican Americans that are assimilated for a while in the US get crapped on by Mexico born Mexicans and White people and they are just in an between space.
I feel the same way. I'm Native American. And I can relate 100% understand what he is referring too. It's hard because even though this land is our ancestral lands. We still have too assimilate. That's why since I live on the U.S./MEX border. I joke around with my friends who are born here in U.S. when tell me, "I'm Mexican". I tell them "No, you're not. You're Mexican-American." Then they get mad and say well my family is from Mexico and explain to me their roots. I tell them, "I agree with your ancestral and ethnic lineage but your nationality is still American." And it is sad because their facial expression turns glum. But tbh I believe no matter your ancestry if you're American. It's harder to prove you're not just American to your ethnic and cultural roots.
@Gaby Lol, omg. All the native american was just trying to say is that mexicans from mexico are just as american and are more than welcome here due to them having native american ancestry. I never see any of you mexicans get this defensive when white people call you racial slurs or even tell you to go back to mexico. In my own personal life and on UA-cam, a lot of you mexicans never tell white people to mind their business. If anything all you do is say okay god bless you. But in your response comment you sure without hesitation told the native american how you felt without wishing them a god bless you. Most of you mexicans are never like this with white people. And I don't want to hear a response oh I went through racism myself or oh my family used to get chased by whites all the time blah blah blah. What's more annoying how a lot of you mexicans now want to claim indigenous now. I remember back in the early 2000s and 2010s you people didn't want to be indigenous, y'all wanted to be Honorary Whites. I remember talking to a lot of mexicans back in the day and they always told me they have some native ancestry but they're mostly Spaniard. Now, you people are trying to be indigenous now. It's like boy get the f out of here with that. Now, do I get a god bless you too? I'm american of welsh/scottish descent.
@@ingrid5930 I agree wholeheartedly, but unfortunately, there are a lot of Latinos on the Internet who act the very same way. Latinos from LATAM try to tell U.S.-born Latinos that they aren't Latinos because they don't speak Spanish or aren't from Latin America. While there are obviously differences in terms of experiences and identity definitions, ridiculing Latinos born in the U.S. for having different definitions doesn't accomplish anything. It's a toxic form of identity politics that only upholds White supremacy because of how Latinidad is treated as a race-evasive construct. But yet that race evasiveness has only reinforced European/colonialist standards as the norm. People need to stop telling others how to racially identify in general, especially since race itself should not be treated as a rigid concept.
Dang, I’ve never met people like that. I have family members that lost their Spanish and the rest of our family still respects them no matter what. The ones who still know Spanish tho, also learned to speak English when they came to the US in the 80s & 90s, so I’ve had that privilege of never had to translate for my parents
I'm Mexican-American. I don't have to justify my non-spanish speaking ways to the Mexicans. And I don't have to justify my darker complexion to the Americans.
My grandparents never taught my dad and his siblings Spanish for this exact reason! The actor playing Abraham has the EXACT same accent as my grandfather. My dad grew up in Corpus Christi in a Tex-Mex family and my grandpa decided he didn’t want him to have an accent when he spoke English and get made fun of the same way he did.
I'm Mexican-American and the ONLY Spanish I know is the stuff my Mom yelled at me when I got in trouble and a little bit of stuff my Grandmother would tell me lol.
Me being a Mexican American (by my mom) and African American (my dad) always been tough growing up. Hanging out with the black crowd, I was singled out a lot. Now the Mexican American crowd, I fitted better but the main problem is, I don't know too much Spanish nor speak Spanish well.
I can understand. I dont speak spanish so when I hung out with my friends who spoke spanish I would hate it because I would often be left out and then feel like I had something wrong with me.
@@jovanym2931 they were just saying that it’s also the same for them they were not making it about them. He/she was just relating to the scene. You’re so ignorant & annoying
@@jovanym2931 You obviously didn't get the point that person was just relating to the situation,actually what the man said all minorities can relate to or all people of color
The craziest part for me is being considered white by Mexicans, but mexican by black/whites 💀. I know mexican ain’t a race, but it sure feels like it when you’re a Mexican American.
I never understand why some ppl judged her, she spoke perfect Spanish every once in a while she would need help with certain words but 98% of the time she could speak it fine and yet people still say she couldn't speak it ? Lmao Her Dad was right all along ...which is sad and embarrassing
Absolutely loved Jennifer in this. She actually lived with Selena's family for a while in preparation for the role. Kudos to this amazing lady! Respect!
100% true and I agree with Olmos about his point. I somehow feel like Mexicans and Mexican-Americans don't mix at all cause like he said, a Mexican-American has to speak perfect Spanish or else Mexicans will make fun of him. I'm struggling with my Spanish alot and I'm facing relentless discrimination from the Mexicans because of it. Yes, I'm Mexican-American. Born and raised in Texas, 2nd generation
This is so true. We are not Mexicans, pero Chicanos. AMERICANS OF MEXICAN DECENT. WE ARE NOT ANGLO, BUT MEZTIZO. THE DIFFERNECE BETWEEN A CHICANO AND A MEXICAN IS ALL CULTURAL.
As a Mexican-American myself, I agree with everything he says. People, both US and Mexico, looked at me as an outsider. Plus, I speak more English and my Spanish is terrible.
Well, if you plan to make your life alone in the United States, cut off all your roots with Mexico, stop worrying about not speaking Spanish, and identify yourself only as an American
I absolutely love this scene, EJO is one of the most underrated actors of his generation. I'm Chilean-American which is weird and tough because there's simply not that many of us, it's a pretty small clique😅
I was too young to know what he was saying about this, but everybody is the same, no matter what ethnicity, or color, every nationality expects u to know about ur own nationality, and to be honest, u should be whatever u want to be, its ur interest, and dont force to be interested in something that ur not.
My grandmother told me the same thing . And she’s columbian . Being born in columbia if your Spanish is a little funny they look at you side ways in the beginning my Spanish wasn’t even that great and I got teased for it so my mom had to teach me to prefect it .
I'm Mexican Guatemalan and I'm from the u.s but lets just say it is exhausting because people keep telling me that mexicans and guatemalans despise each other and that how did my parents love each other knowing that they are from different sides of the border well let me tell you not all of them hate each other and my parents loved each other despite the backgrounds and another thing I was born in California and I have so many ancestors that hated each other that's its basically a blood bath
Amen Abraham. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 I'm a sista (an Oreo as they call it) but I feel him. As a black person we have to be palatable for white people and then be "down for the culture" to prove how black we are. We feel his pain.
I think in this narrative it would be how we are seen by Africans as African Americans. To them we are bottom of the barrel. We cannot relate to most of the culture and they look down on us for that .
Side note... this scene feels so natural, like a real conversation between real people. Movies usually don’t have either acting or writing that is natural like this. The small things, like how they talk over each other, help intimate scenes like this a lot
Very good acting.
Agreed 1000%.
The whole film. Such great chemistry between the actors. Also, I’m assuming they left room for a little improv between lines.
He’s talking from experience
Right. Like in Blood in Blood out, when they're crusin in the lowrider, you can hear them talking about when Miklo used to spend the night and how bad his farts smelled. That's just things cousins talk about. I always thought just that one part shows you how close they were.
This scene is so true though. Being Mexican-American is hard!
In bastrop tx there is no mexican american culture
+yandel 321 Aka a beautiful mix of both worlds.
Thats why we have beans and tortillas fam ✊🏼
lol ikr
@@reneemontes4082 Chicano culture is Mexican American culture. You're stupid and probably white
Abraham spitting some truth
Well, Abraham DOES have a point! Being a Mexican American is indeed tough! And it can be EXHAUSTING to be more Mexican than the Mexicans, and more American than the Americans at the same time!
I think this is a problem all immigrant families have to deal with. It certainly doesn’t help though that we’re so close to home.
Lt Castillo always on point
The hardest part about being Mexican American as a kid is not having McDonald’s because hay frijoles en la casa
Lmao
aldochannel I’m a Mexican- American and I eat fast food every day...
Feathered Friends lol xD
LMMFAO 😭😂 Don't forget about being called "loco" before being told there's frijoles 😐😐😐
burr350 yup
"We gotta prove to the Mexicans HOW MEXICAN WE ARE, We gotta prove to the Americans HOW AMERICAN WE ARE...WE GOTTA BE TWICE AS MEXICANS AS THE MEXICANS AND TWICE AS AMERICAN AS THE AMERICANS... IT'S EXHAUSTING!!!"
EPIC!!!
So true
@SPtheGREAT
Even as a 10-year old watching this back in the days, I knew how serious this scene was.
this scene is my favorite. i am mexican-american my great grandfather fought in world war 1. not 2 but 1. that was in 1917. been american for decades since way back and yet they treat us like we just crossed the border and mexicans treat me and my family as sellouts. its exhausting!
phatcrayonz I'm sorry! 😔 My Dad is 100% Mexican American and he and his family growing up had experiences!✌🏻
PhatCrayonz but at the end of the day you have to be who you are what runs through our veins is our culture our history! We may be born here in America but our culture our blood is Mexican at least that’s the way I see it and the way I’m raising my children. Where American because he piece of paper so soon but her blood is Mexican our way of life is Mexican we are 100% Chicanos. And we have to make sure there are kids know about our history speaking Spanish learning about the culture that runs through their veins
Alina Garofalo We still can't alienate people outside of our race. Be proud of who you are and teach everyone what it means to be Mexican American.
you are a sell out and so was your grandpa
@@StonedMexicanGuy Sounds like you're a typical uncultured, uneducated, jealous loser! I'm pretty sure your whole family are too!!!
I love how her brother laughs at Selena when dad says, “You speak it a little funny.” lol
then she slaps him a little lol
Her father was right though. Her Spanish wasn't actually bad, but her accent was poor.
@@70smusicjunkie Why did she slap him
@@70smusicjunkie why did she slap her brother
Bcuz her brother laugh dhh bahahaha
That entire scene by Edward James flowed naturally and flawlessly. No retakes and true.
The way he says "we have to learn about John Wayne & Pedro Infante"😂
True lol
Oprah and Cristina Saralegui
"Anglo food is too bland, and yet when we go to Mexico we get the runs! Now that to me is embarrassing!" 😂
And that, my friend, is why Tex-Mex cuisine was invented.
So I'm guessing THAT'S why Tex-Mex cuisine came to fruition!
@@thisguyhere6641 Tex-Mex follows the Goldilocks principle, it's just right
@@saulthechicanootaku I bet it does! That's definitely for sure!
@@saulthechicanootaku Exactly!
Being a non Spanish speaking Mexican is the worst !! We are minority within a minority..
Remember , Spanish is not even a Mexican langauge... Nahautl,Mixtecan and Mayan are ..So i would imagine its tougher for them.
We’re kinda at the point to where it’s hard to call Mexicans minorities. Go to a Wal-Mart and it’s like a siesta in there
StuUngar hell no dude. You must live in California or the west coast. I live in North Carolina and constantly travel all around the east coast and there’s hardly any Mexicans or Hispanics I see besides going down to Florida
I know what you mean I tried to make friends with some Jewish people thinking they would be open minded and they didn't like me either
Adrian Flores Is mayonnaise an instrument??
I was born and raised in México, for all of you Mexican-Americans we love you and you are our brothers and sisters. Los mexicanos nacen en todo el mundo
Awwww...Thank u finally someone cared😢😢😢😢
Thank you brother. I’m mexican-american. Ive been trying to connect to my roots and extended family and i felt the love. You have a beautiful country and we love you guys too. ✊🏽heres to even better comaraderie between us!
Love you too❤
I’m sitting at my vanity and crying as I read this. I was born in Mexico but was brought to America very early. The constant ridicule and outcasting from Mexican people has left me completely disconnected. I can’t speak the language and I try so hard to learn yet, it’s never been enough. Thank you for your kind words. You really pulled me out of a dark place. It’s so nice to see someone be kind. I hope you receive nothing but good things in your life. Also that you be rewarded in the next. 💜🌺
@Nataly es verdad si no habla español no eres hispano
Very deep, but very true.
*Being a Mexican- American is tough especially if you're first Generation!*
pinche wey tu no eres mexican como yo de pura raices papa
@@ianthomas1201 Dijo "Mexican-American", no "Mexican". O a caso no puedes leer?
Us kids who were born in the 90’s had it bad. My Spanish has greatly improved otherwise you’ll be an outcast in Mexico
Being half Mexican is tough too. I'm expected to be Mexican even though I'm also half Islander
Matthew Cantu Wow I’ve never seen that mix before lol. the “popular” mix i see is mexican and white🤢 how did ur parents meet if you don’t mind telling me
Very true as a Hispanic who was born in America. My parents made sure even though I was born in the USA, I always am proud of my Peruvian heritage. I'm bilingual and I'm proud of being Peruana con todo mi alma ♡ I love my culture and that I spoke Spanish mostly at home then when I was in school, I'd speak English.
Youre beautiful tho
yo también hermana! viva Peru
But what was the language that your people spoke before spanish? Before Europe colonized the americas?
Amen, although my case was when I first went to school after moving to Texas from Chicago, I'm pretty sure I found it hard to speak English because I could not understand it. I could not say the word present as in here when my teacher was taking attendance. My mom and dad were born in Mexico but applied to move to the US legally so my sisters and I were born on US soil.
Maybe you teach these other Hispanic Americans that don’t know how to speak Spanish. Lol.
Best monologue ever to explain the struggle! 🙏🏽👏🏽
I’m too Mexican for the Americans but too American for the Mexicans. Sad reality
Sad that this is so true . . . I'm almost 31 and I still get from a lot of people "why don't you know Spanish". I live on a border town.
@@amandagarza8154 well get to learning. You're mexican who doesn't know spanish that really is sad. I was born in Brownsville, TX next to the border i know spanish. You are what we call "pocho" someone who doesn't know spanish. You're 30 and haven't even tried to learn spanish. I can smell the whitewash in you but its not your fault. Shame on your parents for not teaching you spanish.
@@kenpachizarakithebeast3381 Spanish is a white European language. So by saying "whitewash" you literally contradict yourself. Puro pendejo.
@@somewhereinsouthamerica5829 it ain't white anymore its brown now
@@kenpachizarakithebeast3381 have you seen people from Argentina, Uruguay, heck even Southern Parts of Mexico? Novelas? Latinos come in all races bro. To say the Spanish language is "brown" only reinforces your ignorance on the topic and your lack of qualifications to have a justifiable opinion for ridiculing Amanda for not speaking Spanish.
I’m so thankful that my step dad insisted on me speaking Spanish. Made me read books in Spanish and in English. Now I have a beautiful sister that I also passed that treat to her as well. She is in second grade now and her teacher says that she speaks both languages very well. Gracias a Dios que mi padre Me enseñó a valorar mi cultura Y nunca estar avergonzada de donde vengo. I miss him very much 💕
I love that speech.
I'm not Mexican but I am Hispanic and I love this speech too. It's so true.
I love being mexican american and happy to have had selena representing our culture.
If she were alive today I like to think she would've helped bridge the gap further along than it is now.
Edward James Olmos went off scrip during this whole scene I guarantee it this is his own person philosophy of being Mexican American I swear to God this scene is not scripted when comes to Edward James Olmos he is the man.
Everyone I know who's taken a Mexican-American Studies class in college/high school saw this movie in class, and this scene is a big reason why.
Selena was so humble and kind. ❤️
I came here cuz I was feeling down and wanted to hear somebody else explain why it's so hard to deal with both societies when neither one accepts you. One of my best friends is half black, half white and we totally relate on the same subject. I love this scene so much!
it would just be easier to live in Mexico it's all brown people everyone speak Spanish as Mexican culture all the cops are brown simple right? And you don't have to deal with white people
❤
Waylon Mercy we where raised here in America man it’s not so easy to go back to Mexico and try to fit in.
Dang it is tough being a minority in America because we got so much to live up to. No wonder people are always fighting about who has it tough because we all do in different ways. It is like how can you compare when there is so much we have in common.
@@waylonmercy7760 You said it as if mexico didn't have a clear race based hierarchy.
THIS SCENE SO TRUE !!!!
There's Chicanos that don't speak Spanish perfectly.
This scene is so relatable to me as a Dominican-American. My parents came to this country with nothing. I was born here and at the age of 7 we moved to DR. I lived there for 12 ½ years and many Dominicans think that I am too gringo.
Here's the thing. To many Americans I am too Dominican. It's a vicious cycle trying to prove yourself more American than the Americans and MORE Dominican than the Dominicans.
Not to mention the internalized racism I had to endure there by people who are brown with a light or dark shade and some tanned skinned Dominicans or white.
It's REALLY harsh
'When you speak it you speak it a little funny' I can relate 😂 I'm half Hispanic/half Italian living in America ... it's exhausting. I feel what Abraham is saying.
Which Hispanic Spain doesn’t care
...very real scene, most choose a side. My grandmother was a Mexican immigrant, came to U.S. and was "Americanized", didn't teach any of her kids Spanish language/culture. Although my great-grandmother could barely speak English...guess she didn't want to deal with the hassel of being "More Mexican than the Mexicans"...Que Dios la tenga en su Gloria.
The casting of Edward James Olmos in Selena was excellent. He brought a great dimension to the movie. He's a great actor, and as a Mexican-American myself, I relate to this very much.
This is one of the most underrated movies ever!
I've never felt a scene in a movie more than I did this one. It really is exhausting!
This is so true, as a Hispanic, I was born in America, my mom was born in Bolivia but still I was born in the USA. I still do not rlly know how to speak Spanish rlly well and when I am around my Hispanic family it’s like I have to act a different way towards them and act differently it’s so frustrating
I literally connected with this scene a lot.
“Our family has been here for centuries, yet they treat us as if we just swam across the Rio Grande” NO LIES TOLD.
He's not wrong, I remember going to Mexico with my dad to visit his family for the first time, and he expected me to speak perfect Spanish with them.
Because otherwise we wont understand you, in Mexico we dont have good levels of English at all.
If your father was born and raised in Mexico and you don’t speak Spanish, your father is an idiot.
@Chris Honestly for the longest time I thought my Spanish was alright, until I actually noticed how pefect Spanish in Spanish speaking country is. It was then I realized I basically grew up speaking Spanglish, lol
how tf don’t you know spanish lmao spanish was my first language
@@SeaLevelCain-c8m Lol, I'm from SoCal. It was a mixed of both growing up, but more so English cause I watched more English stuff than Spanish stuff.
Best scene ever, not only you have to proof yourself but add the factor of moving to a third country now you have 3,4,Or 5 worlds in your head and hearth to be better, "It's exausting "
"We gotta know about Oprah and Cristina." That part is true. Because Cristina has pretty much been like a Latina Oprah.
Cristina is not Mexican, she is Cuban. El show de Cristina was so popular in the 90s on Univision.
I'm half Mexican and half Honduran and this spoke volumes to me. Hispanics see me and automatically assume I speak Spanish (which I barely do) and my fellow Americans tell me to go back to my country, even though I was born here. Sad to see how even after this movie came out, things still haven't changed 💔
Same here, Sister. I'm also half-Honduran and half-Mexican. With at least 3 cultures, it's more exhausting when being more "Mexican, Honduran, and American" at the same time. I do speak Spanish, but I do have cousins who can't, and assumptions are equally as hurtful when someone is belittled in their own family/culture.
I just have to say, Edward James Olmos NAILS that RGV accent. He sounds like my grandma. I feel transported to Brownsville.
Incredible!
Honestly like I’m American(first generation african American) and Nigerian. I’m expected to speak like black people and act like them or I’m not black I’ll be considered “white-wash” but I’m also supposed to act like Nigerians and speak Igbo or I am considerd American more than Nigerian but I can’t do any of that which makes me in the position that I feel that I just don’t belong anywhere
Me too. The Nigerians will shame you and so will black Americans
I feel your pain, brother. I was born in the UK to Nigerian parents, and I had a pretty happy childhood growing up in our predominantly white part of South London. As a kid I wasn't aware of racism, and my mother never discussed it with me. When my father found a job with NEPA, my mother and siblings joined him in Afam, a rural area near Port Harcourt where the NEPA staff quarters was situated. People there used to pick on me because I spoke perfect English with a slight accent, and I had to adjust my speech to blend in properly although my father banned me from speaking Nigerian Pidgin. People would cast mean glares at me because of my birth country which I thought was just stupid. Even teachers used to pick on me - anytime I did something wrong they'd bring up my British citizenship. To be fair, I should have learned to speak Igbo, and I now regret not learning my language, but my sister could speak Igbo fairly well and she still went through that grief. I'm back in the UK now, and most of the teasing I receive still comes from black people. I'm not supposed to be well-spoken because I'm black? I'll always be proud of my heritage, and I'm even happy we moved there, it's just my own people I can't stand because some of the worst racism I've ever received came from my own kind. As for the white people I've encountered, some of them are surprised to hear a black woman speak English with a non-stereotypical accent, but when it comes to finding a job I'm often rejected. I had to wait years before I finally gained admission onto a PGCE programme - some of the universities wouldn't even call me for an interview. I tried gaining admission with an agency to obtain classroom experience, and they were so rude. Apparently they only accepted people from redbrick universities - the UK version of Ivy League - which was absolute rubbish. Was it something to do with my surname? Sad.
ME TOO I FELT THIS
je'suis Elle I mean african American and Nigerian my bad.
i am you. you and me. YES!!! i felt this
"Anglo food is too bland, every time we go to Mexico, we get the runs. It's embarrassing." 😆
In this house we listen to Britney Spears AND Paulina Rubio
@Roberto RekarovPaulina Rubio is a Mexican pop star and she’s pretty famous all over Latin America and Spain
Yes!
In my teenage years in the early to mid 1990's, Janet Jackson and the late Selena.
Of course, growing up as a kid in the 1980's was the Grass Roots and Los Tigres del Norte.
Kenny Rogers and Vincente Fernandez. R.I.P. to both
Bacon Cheeseburger and a Root Beer Float
Tacos (Carne Asada) or Tostadas and a Horchata.
Grilled Cheese Sandwich or Quesadilla
Baseball or Futbol (Soccer)
Can't live without the classic cars.
Have a nice day/night.
As a Cuban-American, I can relate lol
I'm Mexican American. It is hard..
Me too, easy idk what you talking about
mexican american and no it’s not
I remember seeing this in Spanish class in high school. I don't remember anything else about the class, but this scene stuck with me. I can't personally relate due to being a white American, but I think this an important lesson for everyone to consider. Be good to your fellow man. Who knows how much time we have left on this rock? Make the most of it and just accept people for who they are.
I feel this so hard, especially since I'm half white/half Mexican. Mexican kids always called me "white boy" and white people are like "You're not white. Your last name is Rodriguez." I can't win lmao
Bro all I going to say who cares what everybody thinks. And I got to be honest to you" you look more Mexican.🤜🤛
@Josué LaraDo you know they have white and black, Asian Hispanics living in Mexico.
Try being half-persian and everyone doesn't know wtf you are lmao
Im filipino-american, i learned Spanish first and English second. And the way I learned Spanish was speaking it fast, and when I speak Spanish, white speak just be racist and say “why are you trying to be Mexican,” and other Mexican-Americans which I hate when my class mates say that. I love mexican Americans thought it’s just the people in my class are ignorant.
Crystal Gem Universe I’m Filipino-Mexican-American and I’m not enough of any group to fit in fully 🤦♀️
It’s funny because the Philippines actually has deep Spanish roots lol
@@millennialaviation phillipines are pretty much mexicans but asian version and both have spanish blood in them
@@spderman123 The Philippines didn't mix as much as Mexico and other Latin American did, though.
Someone should have shown this to Yahritza y Su Esencia
They needed someone like her dad as a manager, instead their manager is their sister, naive like them.
I've never met a Mexican-American who HASN'T seen this masterpiece ❤ Lord knows it was on every Latino channel on Sunday at some point 😂
I'm Mexican-American and Edward James Olmos' rant is true now more than ever... especially in this political climate. but, Jennifer is right. it's a good thing we have our frijoles and tortillas
I think Ed was saying that Mexican Americans that are assimilated for a while in the US get crapped on by Mexico born Mexicans and White people and they are just in an between space.
I feel the same way. I'm Native American. And I can relate 100% understand what he is referring too. It's hard because even though this land is our ancestral lands. We still have too assimilate. That's why since I live on the U.S./MEX border. I joke around with my friends who are born here in U.S. when tell me, "I'm Mexican". I tell them "No, you're not. You're Mexican-American." Then they get mad and say well my family is from Mexico and explain to me their roots. I tell them, "I agree with your ancestral and ethnic lineage but your nationality is still American." And it is sad because their facial expression turns glum. But tbh I believe no matter your ancestry if you're American. It's harder to prove you're not just American to your ethnic and cultural roots.
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@@gabriela.sotelo 100% agree. Not sure why this person thinks it’s appropriate for them to assign other people their identities. Really messed up.
@Gaby Lol, omg. All the native american was just trying to say is that mexicans from mexico are just as american and are more than welcome here due to them having native american ancestry. I never see any of you mexicans get this defensive when white people call you racial slurs or even tell you to go back to mexico. In my own personal life and on UA-cam, a lot of you mexicans never tell white people to mind their business. If anything all you do is say okay god bless you. But in your response comment you sure without hesitation told the native american how you felt without wishing them a god bless you. Most of you mexicans are never like this with white people. And I don't want to hear a response oh I went through racism myself or oh my family used to get chased by whites all the time blah blah blah. What's more annoying how a lot of you mexicans now want to claim indigenous now. I remember back in the early 2000s and 2010s you people didn't want to be indigenous, y'all wanted to be Honorary Whites. I remember talking to a lot of mexicans back in the day and they always told me they have some native ancestry but they're mostly Spaniard. Now, you people are trying to be indigenous now. It's like boy get the f out of here with that. Now, do I get a god bless you too? I'm american of welsh/scottish descent.
@@ingrid5930 I agree wholeheartedly, but unfortunately, there are a lot of Latinos on the Internet who act the very same way. Latinos from LATAM try to tell U.S.-born Latinos that they aren't Latinos because they don't speak Spanish or aren't from Latin America. While there are obviously differences in terms of experiences and identity definitions, ridiculing Latinos born in the U.S. for having different definitions doesn't accomplish anything. It's a toxic form of identity politics that only upholds White supremacy because of how Latinidad is treated as a race-evasive construct. But yet that race evasiveness has only reinforced European/colonialist standards as the norm. People need to stop telling others how to racially identify in general, especially since race itself should not be treated as a rigid concept.
This is true. I’m Latino and my family berates me because of my poor Spanish.
my mom just calls me pale. i'm also mediterranean af and tan in the summer, but nope, still pale.
@@reanimated lol pale
Just tell them Spanish is a white European language too
Dang, I’ve never met people like that. I have family members that lost their Spanish and the rest of our family still respects them no matter what. The ones who still know Spanish tho, also learned to speak English when they came to the US in the 80s & 90s, so I’ve had that privilege of never had to translate for my parents
Man, Edward James was speaking truth
I'm Mexican-American. I don't have to justify my non-spanish speaking ways to the Mexicans. And I don't have to justify my darker complexion to the Americans.
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Exactly, we are CHICANOS.
Me being a half Anglo and half Mexican. I‘ve had this struggle but what really matters is just being myself and not caring what others think of me.
My grandparents never taught my dad and his siblings Spanish for this exact reason! The actor playing Abraham has the EXACT same accent as my grandfather. My dad grew up in Corpus Christi in a Tex-Mex family and my grandpa decided he didn’t want him to have an accent when he spoke English and get made fun of the same way he did.
I'm Mexican-American and the ONLY Spanish I know is the stuff my Mom yelled at me when I got in trouble and a little bit of stuff my Grandmother would tell me lol.
Me being a Mexican American (by my mom) and African American (my dad) always been tough growing up. Hanging out with the black crowd, I was singled out a lot. Now the Mexican American crowd, I fitted better but the main problem is, I don't know too much Spanish nor speak Spanish well.
I can understand. I dont speak spanish so when I hung out with my friends who spoke spanish I would hate it because I would often be left out and then feel like I had something wrong with me.
@@michaele4126 True. Now when it comes to songs I can sing along in Spanish also. By the way my mom's last name is Esquivel.
I agree but it’s also hard and tough being an African American as well especially with general stereotypes (when the stereotype doesn’t define you).
yumiko0017
Always have to make it about you
@@jovanym2931 they were just saying that it’s also the same for them they were not making it about them. He/she was just relating to the scene. You’re so ignorant & annoying
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Ignorant no. Annoying yeah
@@jaylagonzalez765 right It’s obvious they feel the same way so there just relating there struggles
@@jovanym2931 You obviously didn't get the point that person was just relating to the situation,actually what the man said all minorities can relate to or all people of color
He is so right!!!
The craziest part for me is being considered white by Mexicans, but mexican by black/whites 💀. I know mexican ain’t a race, but it sure feels like it when you’re a Mexican American.
I never understand why some ppl judged her, she spoke perfect Spanish every once in a while she would need help with certain words but 98% of the time she could speak it fine and yet people still say she couldn't speak it ? Lmao Her Dad was right all along ...which is sad and embarrassing
Edward James Olmos' explanation about Mexican Americans is the best I have ever heard. They are not fully accepted on both sides. It is hard!
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"when we go to mexico we get the runs" thats a facts lol
Yup so true. Gotta be more American than Americans and more Mexican than the Mexicans.. exhausting
Dominican American is hard totally get this Abraham.
I just love how they are goofing off while Abraham is spittin facts, so true to life, cast perfectly as a real family
Love this scene and movie but yeah, it's tough to be an Mexican-American. Lol
Absolutely loved Jennifer in this. She actually lived with Selena's family for a while in preparation for the role. Kudos to this amazing lady! Respect!
This is exactly how I feel as a Chicano
I feel this.
100% true and I agree with Olmos about his point. I somehow feel like Mexicans and Mexican-Americans don't mix at all cause like he said, a Mexican-American has to speak perfect Spanish or else Mexicans will make fun of him. I'm struggling with my Spanish alot and I'm facing relentless discrimination from the Mexicans because of it. Yes, I'm Mexican-American. Born and raised in Texas, 2nd generation
“Why you laughing? What’s so funny?..I’m serious” Lmaoo my brother and I would quote this scene not knowing the truths behind it when your young 🫡
It’s 2020 and this is still freaking true!☠️
This is so true. We are not Mexicans, pero Chicanos. AMERICANS OF MEXICAN DECENT. WE ARE NOT ANGLO, BUT MEZTIZO. THE DIFFERNECE BETWEEN A CHICANO AND A MEXICAN IS ALL CULTURAL.
Pretty much
Chicanos are molded to have a American mind set that's the difference
The guy is right. Born with two different half’s from two different countries you came from can be hard.🇲🇽🇺🇸
The struggle is real.
Omg I can never agree more every time I watch it
Abraham spitting facts. Being Mexican-American is extremely hard trying to be proud of both cultures.
These No Sabo Kids Need To Hear This 😂
Exactly.
I once played in a mariachi for the dad who played in that movie.
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Their dad is right, but A.B. turned out to be right too. Their music did win them over. It won everyone over all over the globe! 🌏
My fellow Chicanos where you at!
Love this scene it really brings the Mexican soul & it’s true maybe still to this day 👌🏽👌🏽 well said 🙏🏽
This scene is another example of how great an actress is Jennifer Lopez is. Her reactions to dad were so on point and natural!!
All the hate and racism I saw as I kid being Mexican/American When I saw this scene for the first time I was so happy someone else was thinking it too
As a Mexican-American myself, I agree with everything he says. People, both US and Mexico, looked at me as an outsider. Plus, I speak more English and my Spanish is terrible.
Well, if you plan to make your life alone in the United States, cut off all your roots with Mexico, stop worrying about not speaking Spanish, and identify yourself only as an American
mojada
I absolutely love this scene, EJO is one of the most underrated actors of his generation. I'm Chilean-American which is weird and tough because there's simply not that many of us, it's a pretty small clique😅
They don't make movies this good anymore
I relate I’m Cuban American
I was too young to know what he was saying about this, but everybody is the same, no matter what ethnicity, or color, every nationality expects u to know about ur own nationality, and to be honest, u should be whatever u want to be, its ur interest, and dont force to be interested in something that ur not.
“It’s a good thing we have enough frijoles and tortillas to keep our strength up for the job” 😂😂😂
I am beyond proud of Moctesuma Esparza. God Bless my beautiful friends.
I understand what it’s like to be Mexican-American. Yes, it is difficult but I am thankful everyday that I can express myself in 2 languages!
Americans are prejudice and Mexicans are also very prejudice people. Just be who you want to be!
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I didn't know his son in "Selena" was his little brother in "American me"
Jacob Vargas. I seen him in Next Friday
In the movie Mi Familia (1995) that actor played the young version of James Olmos' dad and Jennifet Lopez played the young version of the his Mom.
My grandmother told me the same thing . And she’s columbian . Being born in columbia if your Spanish is a little funny they look at you side ways in the beginning my Spanish wasn’t even that great and I got teased for it so my mom had to teach me to prefect it .
I'm Mexican Guatemalan and I'm from the u.s but lets just say it is exhausting because people keep telling me that mexicans and guatemalans despise each other and that how did my parents love each other knowing that they are from different sides of the border well let me tell you not all of them hate each other and my parents loved each other despite the backgrounds and another thing I was born in California and I have so many ancestors that hated each other that's its basically a blood bath
Amen Abraham. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 I'm a sista (an Oreo as they call it) but I feel him. As a black person we have to be palatable for white people and then be "down for the culture" to prove how black we are.
We feel his pain.
I think in this narrative it would be how we are seen by Africans as African Americans. To them we are bottom of the barrel. We cannot relate to most of the culture and they look down on us for that .