Honda e:Ny1 EV Review. Why this new Honda E electric sequel is the wrong car at the wrong time
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- . Honda e:Ny1 EV Review. Why this new Honda E electric sequel is the wrong car at the wrong timeIs this the best Honda could do? After breaking the internet 4+ years ago with their cartoonish Honda E city car, this is Honda's second new electric car - a more family friendly offering with HRV looks, WLTP EV range of 256 miles and price tag in the thick of brilliant, roomy 300-mile Teslas, Hyundais and Kias. But is it any good?
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Sadly the E only came with one battery size, was expensive and had a miniscule boot, meaning instead of tech lifting the design masterpiece Honda has weirdly made the decision to discontinue it. And instead we have the more conventional, more expensive, terribly titled e:NY1. Jonny is far from elated.
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0:00 Intro
#worstnewcar #newev #hondaelectric #hondaev #thelatebrakeshow #4k - Авто та транспорт
Great real world assessment of this vehicle and the video was way less boring than the car is. No one should by this car and when they don’t Honda will just conclude that no one is interested and they’ll keep pushing out their ICE vehicles. It’s a real shame as many non enthusiast drivers do stick with the same manufacturer more and this will convince their many loyal customers to delay their transition.
Would definitely buy anything else instead of this! BYD Atto 3 or Volvo V30 instead.
Thanks for the message. To be clear Jonny reckons this isn't the worst EV in class. That is reserved for the Mazda MX30, which is 'too shit, style over substance and low range to bother reviewing'. Says an angry JS.
@@TheLateBrakeShowis the Honda e:NY1 second worst, though?
@@Flackon16yes it’s claimed second spot off the Toyota bZ4x. Mazda MX30 is still king rat.
@@garrycroft4215 Seems most of the Japanese manufacturers have been caught napping with EVs and now they're scrambling with half-arse efforts.
@@olliewebbuk the Mazda MX30 & Toyota bZ4x I really thought that they had purposely made crap cars just to say “I told you no one wants electric cars “
Honestly, how Honda didn't see the MASSIVE success of the Ioniq 5 and just make a scaled up E with all the character, but more range is beyond me.
Might be in the works still. I think this car is more designed for the usa market for some reason and will have come from their american design teams. It just looks very american for some reason.
Honda e was clearly an effort from honda japan itself.
We shall see.
Scaling up an e would be like fiat doing the 500x. Trying to repeat success without understanding it. An Element though. That’d be interesting.
Massive success? Nobody buys them. Look at the discounts on the new ones
That's the only decent thing Hyundai have made. they have zero consistency and their designs are all over the place. I saw some disgusting vehicle the other day with countless creases and angles and points that looked like an 8 yr old designed it.
I don't think Honda making an EV to rival Hyundai is as easy as you say. Honda are a *long* way behind Hyundai on EVs, they can't just magic the R&D of catching up overnight! That's at least five years of R&D by which Hyundai are ahead of Honda, if not more.
As a fellow enthusiast of Honda innovation, their entire management and design team as well as the corporate board should be forced to sit and watch this video. You are absolutely spot on Johnny, the fact they haven’t done an e-Element is something that we can all lament.
Glad I'm not alone in this frustration and disappointment. Thanks for watching.
With the two new concepts, Honda 0 saloon and Honda 0 MPV, Honda announced a focus on "artistic design". So I think Honda realise that this ultra-conservative styling that they have rolled out over the past couple of model years is a mistake. As you would expect, the Honda 0 saloon's styling like a stretched Lamborghini Diablo or example of 1970's retro-futurism has been polarised between people who love it and people who hate it, but I guess this is better than everyone thinking your cars are too boring!
Japanese car brands see EV as a lost cause. They all have token cars in their portfolio because they're obligated to, and that's it. Mazda, Honda and Toyota all simply dont care about them. And are happy to have all the UDM and EDM brands lose their shirts over it. They dont expect to make money on them, they dont expect to sell many of them. They make their money on Pilots, CRV's, HRV's and Civics. Because those are the cars people buy, and keep.
The current formula of EV cars just isn't a winning formula. Not for the environment and not for your wallet. When they solve the battery problem and replace it with something viable, im sure they will put in more of an effort to create a viable product. The whole idea about EV's being simpler and therefor more reliable is a joke. Look at how complicated the heating/cooling circuit is on a Tesla. And a good ICE outlasts a battery pack several times. I think with the recent cars Honda has been putting out, they know how to build one if they want to. But the truth is, in this case they just want a token vehicle.
The fact it is perplexing to a car journo why this is a throwaway car to Honda, is beyond me. I guess they really bought into the notion that EV's are a viable product that has mass appeal. They dont. They are too expensive, too complicated because of the batteries, require too many rare materials to produce and they are not long-time purchases. Noone buys an EV, they all lease them.
Well what happens to them when that period is over. Or what is someone realises that he would actually like to own his own vehicle?
Heat pump missing, Zoe had that in 2012 but then Renault didn't carry over the slide-back charging hatch from the Zoe concept, which was a shame.
What innovation?
Honda asking us to call this the "E" is like your mum asking you to call her new boyfriend "dad"
Politely eviscerates the car 😆 This is why we love Johnny - independent, lifetimes of experience and knowledge, and above all honest.
I don't know why NY1 would want one. It looks like one of the only good things about this car is that we've been given the gift of a sassy video from you!
It is/was a cheap (and ulgy) Chinees car, they are bringing to the EU.
Its for people who dont care about cars
... or have ever tried another ev, or for the devoted fossil fuel community, who want to prove how rubbish an ev is. Perhaps that is in reality Honda's plan.
Why isn't it NE1 not NY1
it's like people who pronounce the ford Ka as Kay AY instead of the clear intention of pronouncing it car....
It’s a seriously disappointing EV. Love your review, Jonny, but you’re definitely not the only reviewer to think this is a total lemon. Bjorn Nyland’s is worth a watch; terrible economy, useless charging speed. I don’t want to believe that Honda have made a car to try and prove that EVs aren’t ready for the mainstream yet and to keep on pushing ICE & soft hybrid, but this one really isn’t ready for the mainstream market. Maybe in 2017, but definitely not 2024. What a waste.
I work at a Honda dealership and disappointing sums this car up perfectly. Doesn't help there's a Kia dealer within sight of our showroom displaying cheaper cars that go further, are more practical, have a better warranty and some individual style.
There are more electrical models in the pipeline, but I'm no longer excited for them.
Yeap, I've got an EV6, in the last year of the lease, as it stands... I'll just get another one the same.
I’m beginning to doubt you work at a Honda dealer as you’d know about the current £8k deposit contribution and free servicing and increased warranty (5 years).
This makes it cheaper to PCP than a Kia Niro by some margin.
Show me a PCP Kia e-Niro on 8000 miles a year for £1k down and £390 a month.
Using this desk this car is a bargain.
@@andybalfour1654 Why are Honda discounting a new model by £8,000 already? Someone’s cocked up in the marketing department
@@jeremytaylor4458They've cocked up with the pricing on all their new models and seriously misjudged the market and their customers I feel.
The EV9 has got Aussie show rooms and I think it’s a category killer for Prado, Discovery, Everest etc
I nearly purchased a Honda e but the range wasn't enough for me so I went for the new Jazz hybrid sport which I love. I totally get everything you say about this car having had around three all electric vehicles. If only they would have updated the battery size in the E and given us a more European dashboard I would have gone for one in a heartbeat regardless of the price. A great review Johnny and I honestly hope Honda take on board your comments for future vehicles.
When the Honda e came out I absolutely loved the design. I've been holding off going electric in the hope that they would make a new version with improved range and a slightly bigger boot. That would be the perfect car for me. Sadly it looks as if that will never happen now. I guess I'll have to just wait and see what the Renault 5 Electric is like once it arrives now instead 😥
the perfect electric car is definitely never going to be a Honda, they are simply not interrested.
I love the design too, everyone is clowning the car then theirs me who absolutely loves it😢
the Honda E was a great looking little car, but it was over priced and under range. I was hoping for the update they fix these two issue, not the design, it was brilliant, maybe just a bit bigger for more space, but that was the only tweak they needed to do.
Yeah they have gone and changed the strong part of the old car
Yes, exactly.
I get the feeling Honda and Toyota have developed deliberately poor EVs so they can say based on their sales figures that no one wants EVs. But what they’ve failed to recognise, like VW, is that if you develop a poor EV, buyers that want an EV will not stick to their brand and stick with an ICE car, they’ll just find a good one to buy from another manufacturer.
Buyers are not so stupid that they’ll buy substandard products at a higher price.
Thanks for your honest review Jonny 👍🏾
This……^
The one thing missing from the review is that Honda shipped this to Europe to have something there, but in reality it's a Chinese market vehicle designed and manufactured by Honda's Chinese subsidiaries, originally released two years ago. It wasn't designed for western markets, isn't new, and that fwd Bev platform is only going to be for Chinese made Hondas. As a product for Europe, it seems like more of a placeholder to say they're selling something instead of it being an actual sequel to the e.
Still, I very much agree with Jonny; it beats me why anyone would think it would be worth importing them to Europe at that price. At least they realized it wouldn't sell in the US (even though they played the same game with us by giving us a worse large Chinese model called an HRV instead of the latest HRV model sold in the rest of the world.)
@@speedstrn It makes sense that this is designed/produced for the chinese market. Explains also how it's possible that the same design team can come up with the Honda e and this strange thing.
No one is buying VW EV's. This company is cutting production of EVS. Honda does not see its future as a producer of EVS and see the short term future in hybrids (hence the excellent Civic. When it produces cars like the EY1 it is just paying lip service to the EV market and does not see itself as a serious contender.
100% their "development" choices make zero sense otherwise.
I love my Honda e, even though it has terrible range (especially in the winter) and charges slowly. It took one test drive to totally sell me on the car - the brilliant chassis, gorgeous design, and obvious passion that went into the car sold me immediately. Everywhere you look, there's something that someone clearly thought about and put there to make it a better place to spend time in. For my daily commute into the city from a nearby village, I still can't think of a better car for me. It's the only car my partner has ever liked, and I don't think I would be able to ever sell it. As someone who prior to the Honda e hadn't ever considered an electric car (and still isn't interested in any other electric cars), this is immensely impactful.
I say this all to emphasize how depressing this review is to me. I knew the e wasn't going to be a success - it was too expensive, too small, and had too short a range - but to see a company like Honda retreat into such mediocre blandness so soon after making such an iconic car is really sad. I fear that these special "Honda moments" of brilliant eccentricity may disappear entirely, and the industry will be much worse for it.
Awesome work as always, wish you the best!
why would anyone even buy an Honda E beggars belief. Terrible range, Awful charging speed, Way overpriced, Massive depreciation... oh ... but looked cute so i will buy blindly..
oh, you're right of course, sorry. i don't even know what brand makes it
"Am I angry? No, just disappointed," needs to be on a t-shirt.
If the e:NY1 is not an electric HRV, that must mean the HRV is an ICE powered e:NY1.
R.I.P. Honda e 😢
Ha! Good point.
Amazing how they've made something so expensive, so cheap.
This is my favourite comment
The trend with new hondas really. Only riding the honda badge now.
Because they dont want anyone to actually order these.
@@Usersf134ssk That's bull. The Civic and Pilot are excellent vehicles. So is the Acura MDX.
Bit like the ID3 in that respect, e-golf was wayyyy better.
Sad to see Honda shooting themselves in the foot with the Euro version of the Dongfeng Honda e:NS1. Indeed a Jazz EV would be perfect. And same as the E, they don't seem to want to sell it at all - here in Portugal it starts at ~54k EUR and the highest trim level at ~58k EUR before some bits like rubber mats. (Edit: probably not including transportation and document fees, as the website mentions in very small type that one should check with the dealership for a definitive quote)
For ~54k EUR you can get... a Tesla Model Y Long Range with your color of choice, and if you go with the default (white) it'll be just under 50k EUR, including transportation and document fees (49990 EUR). And it has a heat pump! (Not a Tesla owner, BTW, just looking at prices and seeing many Model Y and Model 3 around the Lisbon area)
9:00 Current HR-V and Jazz aren't mild-hybrid, they are full-hybrid. The electric motor make the full power quoted in the car specs. Most of the time the traction is entirely electric, with the engine operating just as a generator. Only over a certain speed and in condition of (almost) constant load, the engine is connected to the wheels with a fixed ratio.
Pretty basic error.
So maybe the rest of the review is pants too.
Totally agree Jonny, great review as always, but such a disappointment from Honda, they should have given us an updated Honda E instead.
Don't worry the market will punish them...or not
I can’t understand this either. Like one the same shape but slightly longer,
More long distance than the Es city driving.
Great video Jonny. I think that rear armrest landing angle sums the whole thing up; it's a car made entirely of "will this do?"
Why would you put a charging port (or fuel tank cap) on the front bumper, where it is so prone to damage during a slightest fender-bender?
So the charge cable always reaches
Among your many excellent car reviews, this one stands out as a truly great review. Your obvious passion for Honda’s excellence in so many things is juxtaposed with your raw disappointment in a car that could have, that SHOULD have, been so much more.
The Honda E was original and fun , this looks like every other crossover on the road . I was going to get the original Honda E because it was quirky and loveable but the only thing that stopped me was the lack of range, this new one I wouldn’t give it a second look in a carpark.
It was also rubbish and unusable.
How long did you keep your Honda e for ?@@JohnnyZenith
@@IslaSprollie 100% chance they've never even sat in one
Another brilliant example of why this is one of if not the best UA-cam channels. Brilliant work once again....thank you 👏
Great video as always Johnny. The car underwhelming in so many ways. I actually laughed out loud when you showed their implementation for the opening of rear passenger panoramic roof blind! I look forward to better efforts from Honda.
Absolutely spot on. Those of us that had the first gen insight felt exactly the same when the second gen appeared 20 ish years ago. They need to be told, and you did. Well done and thanks.
Nice to see an honest UA-cam car review for a change, keep up the great work Jonny.
Check out electric car-nage..
Very fair assessment Johnny. Love hearing a reviewers thoughts without being toned down.
Love your videos Johnny, always spot on. Totally agree with your views on Honda innovation, or lack of it. The original Civic was them thinking outside the box. I own a second gen Civic and can not see anything else I would change it for.
Seems like they wanted to play it safe after the e wasn't as popular as they'd hoped (as you pointed out they should have given it more love with newer tech before binning it) and they've played it so safe they produced something utterly bland and forgettable.
The E wasn’t popular because the range was pitiful for the money. An eUp will go almost twice as for for 2/3 the price.
@@Locost59 it was overall bit expensive even without considering the range which turned many people away that otherwise really liked the car
Yes. Typical risk adverse Japanese management mentality. Don't ask whi the e did not sell (one reason: substandard range), just throw the baby out with the bathwater like F'n idiots. Now Honda have convinced themselves EVs are really not the future, canceled their plans to partner with GM (probably a wise choice) and not partnering with their already existing Chinese partners that could deliver them a better powertrain in less than a year using most of the e platform and get them back in the game. F'n gutless, risk-adverse, self-defeating management. Honda has sone great engineers but it seems not even average managers any longer.,
FluteMobile... All we wanted was an E with functional range.
The Shamen called for it in '92 and Honda so nearly delivered... "E's are good!!"
“Has anyone got any Vera’s? Lovely Ya Ha Ha”…
Totally agree Jonny, The first Civic was a standout, Honda e likewise despite range limitations. This thing is reeeeeally sad. Has Honda and Japan in general decided to exit the car market?
I appreciate this candid review. Honda has no business phoning in an ev like this. It feels clearly designed for some kind of emissions standard than actually trying to flex their muscle. You nailed it. No one is angry, we’re just disappointed. The E didn’t take off but instead of iterating, they completely regressed
Is it me, or does the battery hanging off the bottom look like a disaster waiting to happen?
Reminds me of VW’s ‘e-käfer’ concept from a few years back. “where do we put ze batteries?” “Just hang zem of ze bottom”.
Yes ... I immediately thought ... speed bumps ... bizzarre in an SUV style of vehicle to have such poor ground clearance!
@@MrAdopado They've made a crossover and given it the ground clearance of a sports car.
I spotted my first e:Ny1 today in someone's driveway parked next to a Jazz and was surprised to see it appeared to be a very similar size but less visually appealing than the Jazz
Yup
Looks pretty standard for what sells today, to me...
The Honda e:Ny1 car is engineered and manufactured by Dongfeng in China. The only thing that distinguishes it from its Dongfeng twin is its badge and some interior materials. So, people seeking the typical Honda (engineered and made in Japan) qualities: steer clear.
I was constantly waiting for Johny to drop the 'act' and explain that the reason it doesn't feel like a Honda is because it isn't. It's just a poorly made badge job.
So what you're saying is racists stay clear.
Donfeng is not exactly NIO when it comes to persevered quality and longevity. @@kristoffer3000
Exactly, I wonder why he didn't drop the act further on in the video. @@KeithBab
One of your best reviews sir. Always honest and to the point. I was looking forward to this car and would have bought one if it was a logical development of the fantastic e with appropriate range and a growth spurt. Not now. 😔
When I notice JS watch and shoes are the blue of the car and the jacket is a pure Smith and Smith yellow then I conclude the car itself was clearly rather dull. Its battery box is hanging out of its shorts and the black arches show up the wheels are not centred within the arches then I agree that this is really not good enough in todays competitive market. Good on you for calling it out.
As a certain car journalist/ farmer once said its a car for people who have given up on life.
I got an E on my disability car plan due to your review and Im so glad i did otherwise I would of missed out on something very cool and special. Sad to see it being discontinued.
I see they havent learnt from the E and only done this model in 1 battery size 🙄
You'll have a cult car in the not too distant future
If it isn't one already
@@Wannes_ it’s amazing how much the price has crashed for the down payment on them over on the mobility site! I guess Honda just want to shift the numbers now
@@DMlonghurst Not seeing many new ones on Autoscout locally, as dealers weren't stocking them in numbers.
But there's some "private sales" with silly low mileage (and photo's taken in a dealership setting) going for more reasonable prices now.
You couldn’t be more wrong about the second gen Insight. We’ve had one as our family car for ten years, and it’s still fantastic. Averages 50mpg (where our old Corsa would struggle to get 22 on the city journeys we do), fun to drive when the kids aren’t in it (flappy paddle cvt is brilliant) and in ten years and 60,000 miles only one thing has gone wrong - rear brake caliper stuck on after driving through flood water. Literally nothing else has gone wrong in 10 years. And it’s nothing like a Prius.
Spot on. Honda alternates between making bonkers quirky masterpieces and completely drab disappointments.
17:33 "no physical buttons"
Who was asking for buttons to be removed!?!?!?
*WE LIKE BUTTONS*
When the touchscreen does not work flawlessly
The accounting department and the reliability engineers sadly want them removed...but buttons have been worth it and haven't been a reliability headache for ages so even if there's an improvement, it's clearly not something customers are asking for.
Buttons safer, feely eyes on road.
Honda had a compliance Jazz/Fit EV in the US a decade ago. It was a closed end lease and they crushed them all. Anger with Honda is an understatement.
The Fit was a great car! very practical for it's size. I get the need to stick with the civic/accord etc. but they keep killing of their greats like the Element and Fit.
Problem is that car had like an 80 mile range.
About the same as Honda E in real life.@@oambrosia
@@oambrosiawhen it was released it was similar to a Leaf, but no DC charging, only L2
OMG!!!! That's looks the same as my Jazz mk.2 (ICE-only) I'm driving. Never head of this before.
The dash looks similar to the existing hybrid model.
So they DID try and scrapped that idea... sad
The "single battery size" idea makes sense, to me. Even a larger battery size option would include the same battery that was there originally, and just have more cells somewhere.
I foresee an optional extra battery, but that will consume a bit of luggage space.
The gap between the wheels and arches is outrageous.
I like that it doesn’t have a huge faux, non-functioning grill that threatens to eat the rest of the car.
I’ve never heard Johnny have the arse with a car that much before and frankly it’s well deserved. Awful thing.
Excellent consumer advice on what not to buy!
Well he is going through 💩and Japan has let him down.
The Geely floorpan has infiltrated everything. Utter crud.
Nothing will ever top the traffic cone and tarpaulin BMW review 🤣
@@PhantomRadish it’s cold outside, I’ve made a tea, so I need a link plz :)
You’re totally 😊right about this car, Johnny. It’s a total failure, but so was the E: too expensive, rubbish range; stupid cameras instead of door mirrors (surely the biggest solution for a problem that doesn’t exist in years).
There’s a wider problem here though. Just because a car is electric it doesn’t mean that it’s a good car. I’ve been totally underwhelmed or appalled by awful styling of lots of new models. Mercedes Benz, BMW, the VW ID debacle, Mustang E, Toyota whatever it’s called -they all fail to make me want one. The excuse for manufacturers to fit stupid touchscreens for everything is another no no for me.
As a proponent of electric cars, we need you to make more videos like this one -telling the truth about these emperors new clothes cars.
Great review Jonny, just a correction, the hybrid range Honda do are 'self charging' hybrids not mild as they can run quite a distance in EV mode, mild hybrid cannot and is just a fancy stop start system.
Those gloss black arches make it look like it has the worst wheel fitment since the Triumph Acclaim…that was a Honda too 🤔😂
If you had to sum up everything about the EV market and embody it in one vehicle, this Honda would be it. A truly terrible thing. Could Honda not have taken the E, upsized it and stayed at the forefront of design? Accountants are important but if you listen to accountants and nobody else, this is what you get! An excellent review Jonny, Thank you!
I think the E's platform was a dead-end, hence Honda going to Chevrolet manufacturing and Chevrolet platforms for their SUVs in North America. This e:HR-V is a compliance car converted ICE and then the Honda Zero range (2026 onwards IIRC) will be their actual new in-house EV platform.
Great video and you're obviously a skilled presenter. Though I have to say I started to get depressed listening to 25mins of your disappointment. I guess you know what you're doing though. I'm going to check out your other videos where I hope you've got more enthusiasm 🙂
Great honest review Mate, wow talk about taking the gloves off, but you're wrong about the frunck, there is plenty of room for a pizza box, that's what I'd put in there :)
Midway I thought you were building up to a shockingly low price, and instead it was the opposite. Cracked me up :)
The reason it has mirrors instead of cameras is because this will probably be sold in the states. In the states mirrors are still required. The Honda E is not sold in the states. Unfortunately.
great video, love that you brought in the Element and Insight
I have really appreciated this review. I was so disappointed when I realised that this new Honda Electric car which is a similar length to the HRV had no magic seats. The Jazz has magic seats which we love. The HRV and the CRV do too I believe at least on most year of production.
I’ll stick with my E, if I was to change it would be an Ioniq 5, definitely not that any1😂
Good choices: I have an e and an Ioniq 5
Having been royally screwed over by Honda recently, (massive bill for something they decided 2 weeks later was a design fault and will now be done for free - though no refund for me for following their advice and having the work done when they said), I really enjoyed seeing Johhny give them a kicking.
I think the beast is your most popular video- it’s the one that brought me to your channel!
19:49 The more annoying thing is that if that car has air conditioning (and what modern car doesn't) then it has a heat pump and the only thing stopping that heat pump being used to heat the cabin is the addition of some reversing valves
Here is an appreciation of a vehicle given by a knowledgeable person who has loyally kept several of the marque's products. His views bear some weight to my thinking.
Giving the E a better battery and a more efficient engine would've been all they had to do.
Only thing holding back the E was the abysmal range (Especially here in Norway where we are lucky to even get 130km's in winter)
Yeah, why didn't they do a bigger range version and maybe a tech lift?!
japanese manufacturers very reluctant to build EV car. every EV they build in japan will be more expensive than build them in china (they don't want to build in china). if they managed to sell lots of EV, a big portion of money will go to china (battery/battery material). so, they always half hearted.
That makes perfect sense.
Rather than send your profits abroad make them so no one actually wants them and concentrate on the profitable cars ..
@@wangyaohan8824yet the British built Nissan Leaf is quite good value.
@@wangyaohan8824also, this is made in China.
The Element is still incredibly common and New England. An electric Element would sell, without a doubt. Make it look like the E, and on the badge make the E in Element glow blue.
Nice to watch a proper review - glad I wasn't hoping to want one of these. Actually have a Hyundai Kona - ugly thing - but 250-300 mile range and when inside you don't have to look at it, and was good value 2nd hand.
EV market still lacking cars I'd both really want to buy + can afford!
Great review. Tell it how it is!!
Toyota Buzzforks is the name you were looking for.
Ooh, I'll remember that!
I love my Honda e, had it nearly 3 years and I still find myself saying 'I love this car' at random moments. Normally I have picked out my next car in the first week of ownership. I'm 54 and have had 28 other combustion cars over the the last 35 years. I feel so lucky that it's small range and lack of storage/boot, suits my life now.
The e:Ny1 is exactly as Jonny describes.
GREAT review, Jonny, I reckon it's gonna give the first Honda E review you did a run for its' money
Great review! I think any car that places essential controls on a touch screen is a dud. Essentially favouriting lower costs over driver safety.
Totally agree. I think certain controls should be regulated to be physical ones rather than on a screen. It’s too dangerous fiddling around trying change the temperature or volume.
@@maxcarter970 agree, regulation would be a sensible step.
The unique look, and I suppose the Side Cameras, was the USP of the E.
A shame they resorted to such a drastic design downgrade.
And the sheer cabin quality for a small car.
@@TheLateBrakeShow I'll take your word on that, as I haven't sat in one 🤫
Why would one want this car at such a high price when there are better models out there and cheaper, I run a CRV petrol all wheel drive and it is so good . Nope , sorry Honda you’ve missed a trick with this one.
Thank you for such an honest review.
Another great decision from the people who pulled out of F1 in 2009, just as they had built a car that won the world championship, then repeated that decision in 2001. Classic.
A proper professional car journalist, the best car review I’ve seen for a long time I’ve not finished it yet
Thank you v much 👍🏽
All they needed to do was stretch the E by about 30cm and fit a higher capacity batterypack. Instead we get this.... thing.
It's been deliberately designed to put people off EVs. It's cynical 😢
Love the honest, practical, factual journalism with the Jonny Smith sarcasm…that’s why I tune in! 👍
Great review and wholly agree. I’ve got a Honda e.
It is beautiful to look at but the crap range, abysmal software and laughable lack of dealer knowledge or support make it painful to live with.
The interior is undermined by the truly awful UI and software. It looks like beta software with zero polish. Clunky, slow and incoherently organised.
Honda made the e then immediately abandoned it. Such a massive missed opportunity.
Good honest assessment, looks the same as others nothing outstanding. I’m waiting for the Renault 5.
R5 promises a lot and should build on the solid foundations of Zoe.
Great video with a lot of sarcasm and I laughed a lot 😂
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Excellent review. I think we all feel the same about this car, disappointed and frustrated. When legacy manufacturers go under over the next 15 years and everyone is blaming the Chinese, let's remember this review and see that they did it to themselves.
Honda! Hey guy from America here. I owned many Hondas in my youth and put many miles on them. Lately I have been driving Subarus. When the E was first introduced I thought they looked so cool I said I am getting one. Then my heart was broken when I found out they weren't coming here. Now you replace the E with this? Yuk!
The Honda e is a rare & veey very cool car!!! Ffs..... make the cars people want! Should of just updated the e !!! Great vis as always Johnny
Yes, the e is an instant classic. They should have updated the batt and/or designed a bigger car that shared some of the design language.
@thelatebrakeshow so they could have made the Honda E even cooler, rarer and hold its money better. or will it just die off ? @willyfarns
Loved the Honda E, such a cool little car. Give me an Ioniq 5 though, that’s what I’d actually want to buy.
Damn right. I know someone with an IONIQ 5 and Honda e. What a driveway!
@@MrEV On our road of just 14 houses, there's an Ioniq 5, Honda E, Polestar 2, Tesla Model S, DS3 e-tense and a Renault Zoe. Not a bad line-up if we all went to the pub!
@@richardgledhill What a road! The DS3 is letting the side down a bit though. 😀
That's the coolest EV duo.
I'm an Honda E owner, and my other half has a Ioniq 5 which I get to drive regularly. The Honda E drive is so much fun to drive. It genuinely makes me smile every time I get in it but it's range is severly limited, especially in the cold weather when you want the heating on. The Ioniq is fine and comfortable to drive, looks great and has plenty of room for the family. It doesn't fire your soul like the Honda E though and my youngest says the Honda E is the best car ever!
Totally agree, The E would have been the only imaginable model that would have gotten me interested in EV back then… And it made sense, unlike huge, heavy monster “environmental” SUVs or what everyone else was doing, converting normal cars to electric (Mini, Golf , Up!&friends, 500… etc. )
Fantastic review Jonny. Thank you for your honesty and clarity. I love Honda but this is a vanilla blancmange of a car. Save your money and get an IONIQ 5. Has the Honda design / engineering team been on an extended vacation? Where is the high power DC charging 78kW - not enough. Having cables in the boot UNDER the other stuff in the boot is NOT A SOLUTION.
Get with the program Honda PLEASE .
Jaz EV next please.
Electric cars 👎🏻
Did I see you driving over the River Nene in Wansford on that wonderful old bridge? Nice setting 👍
Not a Honda lover, nor an EV person but watched the whole video. Great review.
Waiting for the sedan they shown in CES , that was quite cool looking.
This however, it's just pretty much a Chinese market car adapted to Europe market, hence the lack of that Honda japanese quirks.
The biggest issue with the Honda E is that it was over £21k. Had it not been, I think it would have sold in drives.
Great Review, love your content especially barn finds.
As a big Honda fan also who's owned lots and driven a lot of the current range and I own a 21 plate CR-V e-hev/Hybrid(I think honda use full hybids not mild as you mention in video) which is a great car. I agree this car doesn't do anything for anyone you can see by the massive £8000 finance bonuses they are offering on it now on the website they have messed the price up. So many cars you could have instead. I like you are upset they have not made a great electric car this time round. They have made some strange choices recently the CR-V phev in FWD only and a ZR-V which is almost size of CR-V but slightly lower and shorter but again only FWD.
I also think the CR-V which has gone up in price by lots from when i got mine is getting to the point where you can buy a mid spec Lexus NX unless Honda applies lots of discounts. Hope they come back to form.
The Honda E was genius engeneering and creativity. This is just a car.
As a Honda e owner I was quite interested to see the next electric vehicle from Honda. When I saw this materialized boringness I gave up. What can you say about this vehicle... you are 100% correct with that one word: "Sad".
Thanks for the honest review. Three of five vehicles in the family are Honda products and we agree that it doesn't have what we expect from the brand. It kept making me think it was a VW.
I loved the dash on the Honda E. So frustrating that they have followed the crowd and stuck a "Tablet" on to the dash. Would all manufacturers stop doing this. It's a real deal breaker for me.
I know, right?!
I saw recently at a fair and my first thought was 'Glad that Honda has finally shown up to the party!'. I found the proportions agreeable, however I didn't know about the price, the boot, the charging speed. That's disappointing then. Thanks for the review.
I do not mind "small-ish" batteries (190 mile - 260 mile range). Less headaches and they suit most people's commutes, at least those who dont live on the motorway.
When the e came out as a concept, they paired it with a little 2 seater sports car that was equally cute.
Such a shame that never saw the light of day...
global.honda/en/innovation/design/topics/TMS2017/Honda-Sports-EV-Concept.html
I think this is an example of how cars of the future will be, boring boxes that no one can enjoy to drive , cars used to be cool and something to be proud of having, this model is as exiting as a washing machine , it does the job but nothing to be enjoyed.
I think you're spot on. The E is on my short list of dream cars. We love our Pilot here in the States, but an E would be an incredible urban vehicle.
Next time you're mad and want to show it, be disappointed instead - It's a very good impression.