Spud Fit Challenge day 42 - My Argument Against Moderation.
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- I'm eating nothing but potatoes for all of 2016. In this video I'm arguing against the concept of "all things in moderation".
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I like what McDougall says..."how moderate do you want your heart disease or how moderate do you want to your diabetes"?
+FatMenace Yeah, moderation doesn't work. You forget about "moderation".
"Willpower" and "moderation" are suggestions made by people who aren't addicted to food - they just don't get it.
there is no moderation with modern processed foods, they are too addictive. You have taken control of your nutrition, good on you. Love your videos, you will prove the sceptics and the ignorants wrong.
Read The Pleasure Trap by Doug Lisle and you (and them) will know why moderation does not work. Keep potato-ing on and spreading the word!
I've heard that's a good book, it's on my reading list :-)
So agree. I have people tell me that all the time. Just buy a bag of Hershey's kisses and have one a day. If I could have one kiss a day, I would not be obese. I am so compulsive, addicted, to food that I would eat the entire bag the first day. Moderation doe not work in addiction. Well said, my friend. Good on you.
One reason I believe people love to use the word "moderation" in regards to their diet is to validate the fact that they just want to eat everything they like without regard to the ethical or physical consequences. Congrats on your progress to date and to all the media frenzy you have created about potatoes! I
I don't think the ethical consequences are necessarily a part of this, if it's animal rights you're referring to. There are plenty of vegans who don't have squeaky clean diets, or even call themselves junk food vegans. There is so much vegan junk food available these days.
I think the moderation argument is mostly brought up by people who could have a package of cookies (biscuits) and a bar of chocolate in their cupboard, and even a pint of ice cream in their freezer that they simply forget about if they don't open the cupboard and the freezer. They buy a value/family pack of chips (crisps), take out a handful, put it in a bowl, are satisfied and happy (and don't feel the urge/need to eat more), and the chips in the bag go stale before they can finish the bag.
1; these people are not addicts and 2; they don't eat junk food often so it doesn't affect them as severely as it does people who may also not be addicts but who eat a lot of junk because it's easy or they were brought up like that.
To them junk is only unhealthy in theory because they're not affected by it since they don't eat it often. My brother asked me why I didn't have any cookies in the house to have with tea when he visited unannounced. I told him that if I don't buy it I can't be tempted by it. He told "just buy it and just don't be a pig". They don't get it.
Yea I can't do moderation with food either. I get a dozen donuts thinking I'll just eat one a day, that wouldn't be too bad. Five minutes later all 12 donuts are inside my belly.
"moderation" does my head in.
I have heard this all my life..." Can't you just have one cookie?" "UH NO I can't..."
most people don't get it
@@SpudFit The one fight I remember I got into with my husband was " Oh just have one bite of this cheesecake...it won't kill you.." I screamed.." I DON'T WANT ONE BITE..AND IT IS KILLING ME.
Good vid, and totally on point, moderation is bs.
This is spot on. I followed a starch solution diet for two years. A few lapses in what I ate and suddenly I had gone a year without a good diet and was back to being fat and sick. I imagine the 'moderation' argument is either to try and persuade some to eat a little better than usual, and also to make people feel comfortable about their eating habits - despite the fact they eat what we would consider a poor diet!
I totally agree. Saying "Everything in moderation" is dangerous. Like...should I smoke crack in moderation? or murder people I don't like in moderation? Um, no.
Exactly! I came to this conclusion a few weeks ago and have been doing something very similar to your plan (but have other vegetables as well with potato as my main calorie source). I was so excited to find other people online doing this to too.
My idea was to simplify my diet so that it was easy to control and I came to potatoes as a way to do that. Love your insights.
Good luck!
Love this and especially your response to 'moderation' - want to spread this message far and wide. - so much common sense.Am totally sick of official 'nutritionists' and all the crap they spout. Am so sick of people being down on spuds and starch too, like they are the main cause of over weight. All the best with your journey.
So TRUE!!!!!!!!! Addicts don't know moderation! I don't!
People do not understand how serious Food Addiction is. Drug, Alcohol, gambling addictions, just stopping cold turkey works. However, Food Addiction is like putting a lion in a cage and lock um up, and take it out for walk 3 times a day!!!! Those who does not understand this should not make silly commons. I am proud of you. Stay strong one day at a time. God bless you.
+Rev. Deborah Caryer Thankyou!
Man, I dig 'ya. You are such an inspiration for many of us. You give me hope I can beat this bugger. Support is so important....and your videos supply that audible support I can listen to over & over again. Funny how everyone thinks it's a weight loss 'bit', but when you say 'addictions', it's like they short-circuit & don't know how to respond.
I would love to see Dr. Doug Lisle accompany you w/ these interviews...maybe later on w/ in-depth interviews instead of the short-60second interview. Once this plays out, I could see you being an important part of the McDougall family. Well, I think we (McDougallers) are all family in a way! Hee.
I've gotta read Doug Lisle's book! Would love to talk to him and have some of my own experts on here...
+Spud Fit also contemplating a podcast...
I have eaten the best nutrition possible a Whole Foods plant-based nutrition starch solution and still consumed way too much mindlessly and I have follow this nutritional plan now for 3 years and still have to be on guard for the binge eating. I love your video challenge.
Couldn't agree more! We all have our addictions, and the bit about moderation is not only condescending and patronising but also ineffective!
Yep, moderation makes no sense at all for a lot of us! I like to say moderation leads to mediocrity.
This is great! I understand food addiction/obsession. I do not however understand moderation. Oh I know what the word means but you are absolute right moderation will never work for an addict.
Once again I was told I was being silly about the way I was eating. If I just ate a balanced diet in moderation I wouldn't have to worry about gaining weight. The big difference this time, it didn't hurt my feelings at all. I just chuckled thinking about your response. Thank you Andrew!
Moderation is total bull! That's like the willpower bull. The only way to change the way your brain thinks about certain foods, is to stay away from them. Processed white flour and processed white sugar are the two most addictive drugs. Love this video!
Dairy is massively addictive. Nature designed it that way so calves keep coming back for more so they grow massive very quickly. No wonder it's so shit for humans!
+Mandy van Zanen Cheese was my weakness, I could eat bark if there was shredded cheese on it
+Allyson Powell
Yes, flour and sugar is the triggering food to most people with eating disorder. And some other things for each individual. White rice does not have gluten but that is trigger food for me. Find out what they are and stay away.
Amen You are so right on moderation
I always say, "Moderation in all things that don't matter."
I like that!
+Spud Fit Just read this, from Penn Jillette on his 100 lbs weight loss: www.usatoday.com/story/life/2016/01/10/penn-jillette-weight-loss-more-than-magic/78086838/
Jillette acknowledges that his approach is probably not the most sensible way to lose weight. But it worked for him, he says, because he doesn’t like making small changes.“I’ve never in any way respected moderation. I don’t like it,” he says. “Once you go really, really intense and not like a grown-up, things get really fun. …You’re playing in the Sex Pistols, you’re not playing in the Eagles.”
+Spud Fit Also, most successful weight loss is usually attributed to a few common factors like 1) lifestyle change, 2) motivation.
People don't really get fired up about "moderation";.
+Kinda Vegan awesome article, thanks!
awesome rant!
I applaud you for this fantastic video. You said it spot on. I also have made the connection to moderation not being good for someone who is addicted to food. And have also been making the comment about you would not let an alcoholic drink just once in a while. In the past "extreme" diets had worked for me, however just about for 6 month or so, and the weight has always come back on. I do love your comparison about experts who do not live in moderation with what they excel in. I will have to use that. One other connection I have been making in the past year or two so is in regards to why people over eat. I truly believe the culprit being processed foods. They add a ton of chemical to either flavor enhance and/or to make you addictive. Have you noticed that some foods you can just not stop eating after you start? It is very rarely with whole foods. Only processed foods. So when you eat a whole food diet, as you are doing right now, you will have the chance to clear out build up junk from your body. Looking forward to your next video.
thanks for your moderation rant makes sense to me
Gretchin Rubin talked about 2 types of people "abstainers" and "moderators." I am definitely a cold turkey abstainer type. I think you are making a great point about moderation. There is no way I can stop at one chip or piece of chocolate, it is much easy not to have any.
+Helen Lloyd I've just started reading one of her books...
Spot on, thank you! Keep on keeping on Andrew!
experts in the media... contradiction in terms. :) screw them. you are doing great. cronometer is great.
You're a great speaker man! You could make a living off this!
Wouldn't that be amazing!!
Lol, beautiful moderation note taking. Had me in tears of laughter.
Everything in moderation except moderation itself apparently.
Inspiring vids, I'm seriously considering following in your footsteps, for same reasons.
So much truth in this video!
Wow - you have stated one of the most enlightening things I have ever heard - - the only thing you get when you practice moderation is mediocrity. Thank you for that piece of wisdom, I have been practicing moderation my whole life and it has resulted just exactly that. Thank you.
thanks mate, glad you liked it! Hope it helps :-)
Really, really good!
Love the sarcasm hat!
Very motivating message Andrew. Simply put but filled with truth. Thank you.
Awesome Andrew, well said!
So glad I decided to watch all your old videos from Day One onwards. I am also a food addict and know quite well that moderation doesn't work.
You are so welcome!
Love this so much! You make it so clear and I totally agree! Problem with moderation is it means different things to different people. Some people's idea of moderation could be a cake a day (seriously I've met people like that who eat junk 2 meals a day and tell me it's moderation)
Hello from North Carolina, USA. Great video! It is spot on and has put into words what my experience has been. Keep up the good work and keep the videos coming! - Mike
Totally understand. If I eat one potato chip I am eating the entire family sized bag. Signed up for your 30 day course starting tomorrow.
let's do it!
Bravo, well said!
Great job mate! Love what you are doing and cheering for you from a far. Great way to handle the moderation issue.
Good for you!
This is a great video! I love the message your are sending to me and those of us who have battled with losing weight for most of their life. I am enjoying watching you in your journey towards health. You are so inspiring!
Shun moderation! I feel the same, there's no way I could do moderation. Great video!
I have ruined my weight loss success by eating just that one brownie (chocolate cake), because I caved into temptation at the coffee shop near my office. That one brownie at a coffee break turned into a daily habit, which was an extra empty 400 or 500 calories, and caused me to regain the 20lbs I fought so hard to lose. I can't believe these nutrition "experts" know do little about human nature. Processed foods are highly addictive because our bodies are not designed to consume them. We are designed to consume whole foods, without added sugar salt, and oil.
spot on
Moderation's OK, but only in moderation.
Bravo!
Excellent point of view and very well articulated!
This really is a great way of putting things into perspective for any addiction! And it's much appreciated ✊
Thanks so much!
Kudos to you. I love watching your videos. Give it to us straight!
thankyou!
Well said!
Right on!
how true this truely is...love the way you have worded this
moderation leads to mediocrity :-)
All things in moderation.... including moderation
definitely
Great! Thanks :-)
that's amazing, good luck on your journey.
I am doing only 1 month of the potato cleanse. i did break one day only, on my birthday i had lunch at an Indian restaurant and then had a smoothie for dinner. and the surprising thing is that i felt diff about food, usually i keep eating and eating but this time i ate then before i ordered the second dish i actually stopped and thought am full why am ordering another dish just because it taste so good!!! that's a big thing for me!! such a wonderful benefit of the cleanse :) understanding your hunger and satiation point is amazing.
+Fatma Al-Hilal That's so great to hear, that's exactly what I'm hoping for when I finish this! good on you :-)
Effing love this video!! ❤️
Thankyou, I'm glad :-)
🙌🏽👍🏽 preach.
Spot on!
I love this video so much!!! You hit the nail on the head in so many ways! 💜
+FruityFoodie Thankyou!
Loved this. You are on the money. I am following your channel with great interest and tempted to try it myself for a week. Keep up the good work and keep the videos coming.
On a lighter note you are looking really good. Have you lost much weight? You certainly look much trimmer.
Thanks! Down 16kgs now :-) good luck!
+Spud Fit Congratulations, almost 3/4 pound a day? How long do you exercise every day?
+S Robin I only started a week or so ago. Trying to get in 1.5 hours most days.
I totally agree! I can't do moderation. I have an addictive personality. I went vegan overnight two years ago. That's the only way I can do things. It's either all or nothing.
good that you've recognised it, time to embrace that and work with it rather than against it :-)
Let's just say potatoes weren't enough "nutrition" over the long haul. I would think that losing 17 kilos is WAY healthier than having that weight on and eating a ton of food. I am a food addict as well. How can we just eat one chicken leg? LOL Seriously, doctors still don't want to admit that food addiction is REAL. Keep up the great work. I'll be following your lead soon.
+Chrissy Fifi Yes people don't seem willing to look past the end of their noses to see that perhaps their beliefs are worth questioning. Good luck!
I care!
Hilarious... And so on point! 😅
thanks mate!
Preach!
I hear you mine is sweet cakes and white flour I can eat a whole cake if there is no or very little icing
Fucking Bravo! I've been saying the same thing for years! !! Moderation is bullshit for people who have addiction .. but I'm not going to rant..I'm in the process of losing weight ( upto 60kg) and you have hit the nail on the head .. great vlog Andrew! hopefully people might start to use their brain and think outside the box!
+Kellie Nunn Thankyou and good luck!
this was the most inspiring ! "Moderation"
good on you!
I'm also doing the potato plan!
I'm still having veggies though!
have been potato feeding since the week after Christmas.
?? have you slipped up ??
I'm still scared to step on the scales. I've lost lots of inches but still have to find the courage to step on te scales!!
any suggestions how to get past that fear??
+Brenda Hotchkiss No slip ups for me so far. I don't know how to get over the fear, I had a bad fear of the scales too. Just grit your teeth and do it I guess...
Thought I would check in- can't find an update, hope you are on track-cheers
+S Robin got a couple of new vids now...
Couldn’t agree more!!!
I would just like to know what percentage of people who suggest moderation are overweight/obese... Most likely 75% or higher!!! Take advice from the people who have gotten the results you are looking for.
agreed!
LOVE IT!
So true - Dr Goldhamer has said a very similar thing for years. There's no such thing as moderation!
+Sandy Ⓥ I'd never heard of him until after I posted this. Makes me feel better that there are experts out there who agree with me. Feel like I'm on the right track :-)
+Spud Fit very clever for you to work this out on your own! :-)
It was like a total lightbulb moment for me when I heard it put like this. Dr Goldhamer is awesome, worth looking into many of his talks when you have "spare time" ;-)
yeah,,,,,sounds logical ta me,,,FIVE STARS
thanks!
Andrew, you're one of the news topics discussed by Jimmy Moore & friends on his Low Carb Conversations podcast:
livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/lcc-episode-175-kerry-patrone-and-danielle-eaton-explain-weight-loss-struggles-eating-low-carb/25941
I just heard that from someone else a few minutes ago. Crazy that I'm being discussed on a low carb show! I just wrote to him actually to say I'd come on the show if he was interested... I'm not going to listen to this episode though, pretty sure I can guess what they'll say ;-)
Spud Fit They start talking about you at the 31 minute mark. It's comical! (Hint: there's talk of "bacon".)
+Kinda Vegan oh god okay I'll have a listen...
+Spud Fit pretty much what I would've expected. Hilarious how people love to comment without knowing what they're talking about!
Spud Fit They have fixed, single-minded ideas, so you know they're going to demonize the carbs, and praise the bacon. They blame Ancel Keys for getting fat.
It's so strange the experts were more worried about you eating potatoes than they were about your previous diet. How much protein, iron, vit c and fibre is in processed food? But they were worried about potatoes.
agreed!
Hi Andrew
Are you taking any supplements? being on a plant based diet it is recommend to take B12 as it is the only vitamin that we can't get from plants. I use a spray it really easy to take. Maybe you should look into it! Love your work!!!
Regards
Natalie
Thanks Natalie, I'm all over the B12, I've got a spray too :-)
+Spud Fit awesome :)
👏👏👏
Congratulation on your weight loss! Can I ask if you snore? And has the weight loss reduced the snoring if you did? Im at my heaviest and have really been suffering with snoring recently.
+Paul Edwards I sometimes snore but hardly ever so I'm sorry I can't really tell you if this might help. Good luck.
Ran into this article that might interest you, the mighty potato www.mofga.org/Publications/MaineOrganicFarmerGardener/Fall2010/Potatoes/tabid/1726/Default.aspx potatoes saved lives
F moderation!
At least Djokovic is a vego, seems to help his performance
I heard he celebrates winning a tournament by eating a single square of chocolate.
Moderation is for loooosers. ;-)
haha :-)
Moderation is fine for some, but for people who are moderate in what they do its not a thing they are doing its a natural personality trait based on their genetic make up. My wife is totally good at moderation, she has one glass of wine, a plate of rich food, doesn't gamble or have any real vices. Me I'm like what's the point of 1glass of wine, if I eat lasagne I'll eat the whole tray with garlic bread, i just can't do moderation because of my dopamine response. It's too intense when I eat food it's no different to when I sniffed coke, a huge rush of pleasure followed by negative consequences. The key to Andrews message in all of these videos isn't to eat potatoes, it's the recognition and acceptance of being an addict. I truly believe its no different at all to coke, booze, gambling, sex etc they all just press the pleasure button at the detriment to the person. I'm starting this today and I'm positive about it. I've quit drinking, drugs including caffeine and medication in the past, no this is my last vice. I know it can be done because I know from quitting everything else it's just a neurological program, the thought patterns, the cravings they are all just programmed response from practicing eating. They will continue and will lag behind due to the neurological pathways that will fire in the brain. But neuroplasticity will work over a few weeks and produce me a brain that will no longer continue to ask constantly for the food, just like it stopped asking for coke, booze, cigarettes and coffee. I know for a fact it will stop asking if I persist. But like any addict those neurological pathways become doormant, but they dont erase. They are there waiting they only need one or two shots and they will be fine and punishing you again. Even thoughts can begin to ignite them in the early days of quitting. Like an old truck in a barn for yrs a fresh battery an fuel and it can fire up like its never been off the road. The neurological pathways are still there even if they are leaving you alone so never fire them up, don't wake the beast. My mind after yrs clean from coke and cigarettes rarely asks for them now even at party's I can be around coke and not take any, Im still tempted by the knowledge of the feeling but I'm not compelled to do it. The brain will change. Drugs and booze etc really are Pandoras box. Food is possibly the hardest because you have to keep eating and I will still be cooking nice meals for my wife and kids so I'll be sat over a bubbling tray of lasagne, imagine quitting booze then having to continue working behind the bar! It doesn't worry me though as I know from quitting other things the brain will change, that saliva response will die down the thought process of requesting food will slow like a dog that gets tired of begging when it never gets fed.