Should you feed raw chicken necks and wings to your dog? Dr Kate, Bondi Vet
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2018
- Campylobacter is a known bacteria prenet on a lot of uncooked chicken products such as chicken wings and chicken necks. Recent reserach from the University of Melbourne has found a link between undercooked chicken, campylobacter and the development of polyradiculoneuritis in dogs - which causes dogs to become paralysed. Dr Kate from Bondi Vet gives us the low down.
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Yeah, dogs are getting paralysed everywhere, 27 in my street alone today. Laying all over the streets. Oh wait.....no they ain't. Been feeding raw chicken for over 50 years and now all of a sudden its dangerous.. Fear mongering fools.
they're trynna cause people to soend food on commercial dog food
Bro you funny as hell
Doctors don't cure disease anymore they medicate.
Yeah I don't listen to this BS people nowadays have less of an education even with their degrees they we're in my opinion taught a watered-down education so I do my own research and go off of all the years growing up with dogs and now raising my own. Never had a problem with cooked or raw bones however would that being said I love my dogs so just raw bones is all I give
With all the BS about COVID, which we used to call the annual flu, I don’t believe anything the medical field tells us anymore. I used to use what was reported to be the most used kibble for Dobermans. Then I looked up what the second ingredient, corn meal gluten, really is. It a fertilizer and herbicide. So would I give that to my Dobie? Or should I risk real food including chicken? I’ll stay away from the garbage put out by a billion dollar a year industry and continue with real food.
Dogs have been around for thousands of years eating Raw food... One research funded by some kibble company can't change the fact that best thing to give your dogs is a Raw diet..
How many dogs were part of the study?
Ask yourself this question: Do dogs know how to cook?
If your answer is no : they eat raw meat
If your answer is yes : your dog is alien
Vet want you feed your dog dog's food, so your dog get sick. Then they can make money from you.
200 percent correct my dog eats raw meat threre canines Hello ???
She got paid off
Any update on this research?
My 2 neo/Danes diet is raw beef with berries in the morning and raw chicken with cod liver oil in the evening. Atless 2 times a week I don’t give them the raw beef but instead a combination of oats, goat milk, eggs, egg shells and molasses
@Dr Kate Adams (Just a Hypothesis) I would speculate that this bacteria is found primarily on the surface of a processed chicken as a bi-product of industrial production and packaging (if store-bought) of the animal. Understand that as, during the process If the machines that handle an infected chicken, the bacteria will become residue on those machines to coat all chickens to follow. If this hypothesis is true then reasonable risk-mitigating workaround would be to place the chicken in boiling water, for 20 - 30 seconds) and remove it, resulting in a cooked surface but RAW inside. Killing the surface bacteria. So long as you understand there is a chance that you purchased the originally infected chicken. The hope is if a whole flock was infected, the inspection process would(should) catch a sick flock.
my 2 cents on a mitigated risk, pending confirmation of this hypothesis.
Article linkage please ?
Granted I'm just a lay person, but absent further reading (which I plan to do) I find it surprising that a bacterial strain like that is able to survive in the highly acidic (under pH 2 I think) environs of the canine digestive tract. What's the vector linkage between that strain and the paralysis being reported ... is it a toxin produced by the microbe, and if so is it gastric or blood borne ?
Personally I'm inclined to think it a bit premature to suddenly write off all raw poultry without first having done the corroborative reading ... especially when we reflect on the fact domesticated dogs and cats were eating raw prey for many centuries, and their ancestors for countless milennia before that. Commercial kibble (aka 'crapple') has only become omnipresent since what, WWII, and aside from the dubious advantages of shelf stability and convenience dont the fairly widespread prevalence of health issues caused by feeding kibble instead of BARF or Prey Model greatly outweigh what are almost certainly very low incidence numbers for the problem you're referencing ? (assuming it's even real)
This is perhaps unfair speculation on my part, but sight unseen, it would not surprise me to discover the authors were either just publishing scientific fluff in order to make tenure (if they're professors at a teaching college), or they were/are having their study funded in part by the pet food industry. I'd be curious to know id the study was published on a reputable publication, and whether or not it's been peer reviewed by qualified and ethical people who arent on the take.
There are literally mountains of disinformation out there along with omnipresent conflicts of interest ... it's a disservice to your charges and pet owners alike to add to same. Answer me a question ... do you sell kibble in your office or get incentives from same ? If so, dont you see the conflict of interest ?
It honestly sounds like she is the kind of vet that would tell you your dog needs to eat kibble because it is good for your teeth, which is sadly most vets as this is what they get taught in school.
It would be interesting to find the link between the big pet food producers and the literature on pet nutrition, as they seem to have a strong influence on what gets taught.
Well said Roving Punster. I see there has not been a link replied.
This was the best link I could find that pertained anything close to what she suggested.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8025411/
dry food/kibble can cause health issues in dogs as kibble can contain salmonella, mold, and other possible bacteria or contamination. whether you feed kibble or raw, there is always a risk to feeding your dog. you can't say to not feed raw because of one issue while ignoring the health risks in kibble that can also cause complications and sickness. if people decided not to feed their dog a certain diet because of a risk, then they better start feeding their dog air as fresh, raw and kibble each have risks of contamination and possibility of making your dog sick.
Hello Dr. Kate. I have a 7 yr old Doberman and he has arthritis in his 7th vertebrae and is experiencing some pain. He is on Prednosone and another med starting with Gabapentin 400mg. The breeder swears by raw chicken necks and backs for glucosamine and chondroitin to help with the arthritis. Thoughts?
Raw beef trachea. For sure.
You can get chicken products that are HPP if you’re really that concerned but typically if you get raw chicken products that are made with the fact that it’s going to be consumed raw in mind (like most raw dog foods), you should be fine. Just check your sourcing.
This client actually tried to convince people that dogs SHOULDNT eat raw meat
What food company do you work for
Science diet? ROFL
Is it all raw products or just chicken?
What dog food company do you work for be honest now
Undercooked or raw?
If one works out the sugar content in a bag of kibble/ dry food, you will be horrified to find it is at least 50%.
How can necks and wings differ from the body carcass which is what my dog is eating daily. Friends little Scottie spent 3 months in University Hosp. Sydney with this terrible disease which thankfully is really really rare. Freezing raw chicken for relatively lengthy periods kills 90% of the bacteria.
Agree
Sounds a lot like polio. Read moth in the iron lung.
What about frozen chicken necks ?
100,000+ years of evolution and dogs eating other animals and now they can't handle human grade raw chicken!!!! What a crock of shit
Imagine saying K9s can't eat raw meat.. go tell wolves that they can't eat raw meat. Lol
My toy poodle isn't a big dog, so I CAN afford to buy her chicken thighs in the local natural food store, organically raised, cage free, no hormones - these are local growers and not big dollar commercially grown chickens that are unhealthy to begin with, then comes the filthy conditions of slaughter houses and no wonder there's bacterial breakouts even if it's cooked and consumed by the humans. I always freeze it first to kill any pathogens that might happen anyway. She LOVES the raw chicken thighs. I do boil some up occasionally too if I forgot to freeze it first.
I’m not surprised.. So few raw friendly vets.. I like watching your show but I simply I do not agree.
I can eat raw eggs but my dog can't?
She’s so wrong lol
Can I cook them and then give them to my dogs?
What abut cooking the chicken necks? Will that be okay?
NOOOOOOOO, you will kill your dog, they can't eat cooked chicken bone, always raw
Just feed raw this lady is lost dogs eat it to survive in the wild
Yes Good for puppies
Did dogs cook their chicken before kibble?
You maybe a vet but I know science Love
And no I don't believe the whole raw chicken is the cure to all and kibble is making dogs sick.. well kinda is
The best diet for dogs if you can afford it is raw, personally i feed my dog regular semi moist dog food since that's what I can afford and that's fine but I could feed raw I would (too costly and I tried once and he didn't touch it unless I cooked it)
Saying feeding them raw is gonna give them paralysis is ridiculous
Like you said it was recommended for dogs dental health now it's bad 🙄 hmmmm
I'll like to know what University of Melbourne is smoking
Dogs are carnivores and should be eating raw meat and bone the reason why your dog wouldn't touch it is because hes used to commercial dog food which has additives in it to make it more appealing to dogs without those additives your dog wouldn't want it I promise plus it is filled with grains and sugar which causes cravings that's why he wants more and more of it raw meat doesn't have that... A lot of people think that their dog likes kibble better and doesn't like raw meat when that's not true it's really the chemicals they put in it. Furthermore if your kid only liked donuts would you still just feed it donuts just because they liked it and wouldn't touch anything healthier. If you are not giving your dog raw meat and bone only no kibble then you are abusing your dog.
Exactly and now they're promoting dog toothbrushes and toothpaste instead. My greyhound gets frozen chicken wings. I supervise her eating them but she really crunches on them before eating
Though, recent studies showed that up to 70% of chicken products harboured campylobacter bacteria. It should be noted, that freezing chicken kills over 90% of any contaminant bacteria on chicken meat including Campylobacter. Interestingly this is the recommendation vets at FHVH have been suggesting for years.
How long should we freeze chicken to kill the bacteria over it??
Dr Becker feeds all her dogs raw !
Polyridiculas my asses
🐂💩. Let's talk about how since the emergence of " kibble" torsion has become more prominent?
This is so untrue !!!!!
No eat em yourself!
lol IMO
Once I bought a dead raw chicken
The moment I take out that chicken from packet,my German Shepherd jumped on that and eaten it😂
I think you are owner of kibble
IMO - No?
Hmmm Mr Wolf doesn’t eat cooked food. Dogs have teeth designed to rip, tear and crush. I think it’s about how raw is processed … buy human grade not pet grade.
Hi doc. I'm an animal. Wanna spend some time in the exam room?
Ew perv
Smh
I only give my kitty raw chicken livers kidney and hearts that's it and it's only once in a while
Can I feed boiled chicken neck,head and wings?
you can, you can also feed them raw
@@minimoni3476
Thanks doc
You can't ! Cooked chicken bones can splinter your dogs throat! It is absolutely dangerous to give a cooked bone to your dog !!
@@minimoni3476 wtf are you talking about? Stop talking if you dont know shit!
@@karlfranz7434 thanks
Great teeth! 🤘
She eats raw chicken wings.
@@DingleBerryMTB 😂😂
Bought some chicken necks and wings today for my dog then found these articles about paralysis. FARK THAT! no way I'm feeding my dog any raw anything anymore. He's doing great on cooked meats/chicken breast, eggs, egg shells and kibble.
Been Feeding my small, 20 pound mut Raw chicken wings everyday with some other raw meats/zero salt greens, and carrots. Ive been feeding her that for 10 years. She's 15 and running around like a pup. Zero Vet appointments, except for her long nails.
He's doing great as in hes surviving if you are not giving your dog raw meat and bone you are abusing it. Cooked meat and food is for humans raw is better for dogs they Digest it way better.
@@bretrandolph7419I wouldn’t call that abuse tbh.
She forgot too mention this happens to dogs who do not have the PROPER raw diet. It has been scientifically proven that a raw diet is THE BEST diet for dogs. Chicken and their bones and organs are major staples in the diets as well.
Can i just cook the chicken boil it or grill it no salt nothing
NO NO NO, cooking the food removes all the nutritional value from the food.
@@Thaeo785 plus if your dog eats any cooked bone it can kill him
if you do no cooked bones only the meat
I feed my dog raw meat. I freeze it first, thaw it and give it to her. Yummy!
Yes freezing raw chicken kills 90% of the bacteria.
@@sucathwa8000 how long do you freeze?
@@mountaingoat8788 recommended 48hrs minimum..since that post I feed chicken necks daily. No freezing first.
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Dogs bury bones and carcasses in the dirt and eat them a week later 🤣
😂😂😂…. Us raw feeders feed chicken all the time … you need to be freezing your meat for 3 weeks minimum!!!! The bacteria can survive commercial dog food !!!! But can be fed raw after 3 weeks . BUY ORGANIC PEOPLE
Jesus get to your point lady!
Well, it appears from a high % of the comments, that many have a hard time believing in the scientific method, sheesh. Dr. Kate has made a clear (evidence-based) and up to date review, and people are pointing out ridiculous misunderstanding or views not scientifically based. Haha. I'm from Canada, there are odd people here too, but I am shocked to see how people are in Australia. In general, Doctors have a vocation to help (big hearts) humanity, which don't always deserve it. Why argue when you lost right from the beginning.
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BS !
Fake news
bone for dog is not good, because they are not digest to the stomach.
Marvin Canlas not true, cooked bones are bad for dogs as the consistency changes and can splinter causing obstruction in the bowl. Raw bones are perfectly fine
You are an idiot
@@Thaeo785 You're an idiot for disagreeing with the very argument that you are making in all of your responses to other comments just because English isn't his first language. Cooked is bad. You should correct your response so I can continue to agree with you. Thanks for all the other comments.
That’s not true.
another wokie from down under!
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