Small Two Stage Dust Collection System (Rockler Dust Right & Dust Deputy Cyclone)

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • How to set up a small, yet efficient and relatively affordable two stage dust collector for a small woodworking (in my case guitar making) shop using the Rockler Dust Right (wall mount) dust collector, Dust Right canister filter, and Dust right quick connect, in combination with the Onieda Super Dust deputy cyclone separator.
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    For the link to the dust study I mentioned in the video and tons more dust collection info that will hep you create a safer and cleaner workshop, check out the ultimate guide to dust collection here:
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    Ultimate Guide To Luthier Tools:
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    Items Shown:
    Rockler Dust Right Dust Collector: www.rockler.co...
    Rockler Dust Right Canister Filter: amzn.to/2NrXpPj
    Rockler Dust Right Hose with handle: geni.us/AoNAoG
    Rockler Dust Right Quick Connect Fittings: geni.us/goRGU42
    Onieda Super Dust Deputy 4"(this thing is awesome): geni.us/QpGjI
    Thumb Screw Hose Clamps: geni.us/6TTz1M
    Rockler Floor Vacuum Kit: geni.us/8Y3vGy1
    (I also have these and they do come in handy)
    (This little two stage dust collection set-up is also a great solution if you need to build it piece by piece and if you only have 110 volt power - many larger systems need 220v power)
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  • @charlesgarito1155
    @charlesgarito1155 3 роки тому +8

    Two of my newest interests, guitars and woodworking. I”ve watched many videos on both subjects since retiring and yours on dust collection for a small shop was what I have been looking for. Too many videos focus on craftsman who earn a living or are looking to profit from the videos. As a hobbiest I enjoy every minute in the shop with no pressures about earning money from it. Thanks for this well made video.

  • @northerndarklight5305
    @northerndarklight5305 4 роки тому +16

    Good job. I had EXACTLY the same system, which was a bit underpowered for my mid-sized wood shop. Some of the machines were just too far away. I recently upgraded to the 1250 CFM model, with the larger 1 micron filter. I kept the existing Dust Deputy Deluxe, and Dust Right hoses and fittings. It works so well, I'm flabbergasted, and that's rare. It's a very good system, but for safety's sake, I also have a Jet dual filter air filtration system to give the air another scrubbing. It cycles the air in my shop about 15 times per hour. Better safe than sorry.

    • @jeffreysears3517
      @jeffreysears3517 Рік тому

      for your opinion, it what scenario would one need a 1250 vs a 650?

    • @UTBanjo
      @UTBanjo Рік тому +1

      @@jeffreysears3517 IMHO, if you are using a lathe or power jointer you automatically need the 1250(or an even larger system). Also, if most of your machines are more than 10 feet(3 meters) from your collector.

    • @TheArtOfLutherie
      @TheArtOfLutherie  Рік тому

      Thanks James, I totally agree. That bigger version wasn't available yet when I made the video, otherwise I would have mention it as well.

  • @Grampiswoodshop
    @Grampiswoodshop 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the video. I'm about to move to florida and set up my retirement shop. This really helps.

  • @daveyJ213
    @daveyJ213 3 роки тому +5

    Awesome video, my man! Just finished a small 9' miter saw work bench/cabinet and I need some sort of dust collection system for the miter saw, as it creates more saw dust than just about any other tool in the shop. I think I'll mount this on the wall near the miter saw. Thanks for posting. Enjoyed your delivery; honest and to the point; much appreciated.

  • @oxylepy2
    @oxylepy2 2 роки тому +1

    I like how your take away from that study was to be shaken to your core. My first time realizing how dangerous airborn particles were fpr respiratory health made me feel like an idiot for not realizing that immediately

  • @Painfulwhale360
    @Painfulwhale360 3 роки тому +1

    I was hoping to buy this model tonight because I just got done putting together my CNC machine a day or two ago (X-carve) and need dust collection. This 650cfm model is out of stock on Rocklers website but their 1250cfm model is in stock but twice the price of this. But one other thing is that it has a wireless remote on and off so that’s really handy for my use. Oh well, I appreciate your video!

  • @bobnicholas5994
    @bobnicholas5994 4 роки тому +35

    Short story: I'm a Respiratory Care Practitioner and avid woodworker. Woke up one morning terrible chest pain. I intermittently wear mask. Doesnt go away wife forces me to go to ER. Not heart...go home. Woodworking mentor says he did exact same thing in past. He thinks he sucked in some wood dusk that really irritated his lungs.. I analyzed it and that was probably what it was. The ER bill was more then the top of the line dust collector etc...

    • @ArthurCheesebag84
      @ArthurCheesebag84 4 роки тому +2

      Bob Nicholas this comment motivates me to do something about my dust.

    • @daxd8358
      @daxd8358 4 роки тому

      Sad to hear and was I eye opener just last night viewed a 3 year old video about health issues and wood dust , be well my making needed changes .

    • @jonruehle9186
      @jonruehle9186 4 роки тому +4

      Same for losing a finger or two on the table saw. The SawStop brand saw I want is $4,000 which is a SMALL FRACTION of the cost of hand repair, if it can even be repaired, or lost of one or more finders, God forbid you lose a thumb.

  • @colingiersberg5947
    @colingiersberg5947 7 місяців тому +2

    Very good video and your explanation about the system were very good too. Thanks.

  • @homtherobot
    @homtherobot Рік тому +1

    Awesome video, thank you! Would love to hear more about how you decided between the 650 CFM vs the 1250 CFM model!

    • @TheArtOfLutherie
      @TheArtOfLutherie  Рік тому

      Thanks so much @homskillet! The choice was very easy because the 1200 model didn't exist back then :) The 650 was plenty for what I do though.

  • @YummyPork
    @YummyPork 4 місяці тому

    Stopped in at Rockler yesterday and started getting the parts of this same build for my basement shop. Thanks for the great video.
    One tip I learned there was for the plastic bag. Since they are reusable, glue a small magnet (like a flexible fridge magnet) along the top edge to hold the bag in place while you position it over the canister.

  • @brianwhittaker2378
    @brianwhittaker2378 2 роки тому

    Excellent video. Thanks. I spent the day in my new shop recently and my lungs were in rough shape for about 36 hrs after that. I thought I was doing a reasonable job with dust collection....wrong. This is going to help me a lot.

  • @hankfrazier7151
    @hankfrazier7151 3 роки тому +3

    Best quality and simple dust collector I've seen yet. Looks like Rockler put some quality material in what they make instead of cheap plastic material that breaks or wears out quickly. I probably will go with Rockler. Thanks.

  • @jake8074
    @jake8074 2 роки тому +2

    Old fart that doesn`t care for technology... that being said, how in the hell was life possible before UA-cam? Thanks brother, my very best to you and yours... this was a big help!!!!

  • @CMRWoodworks
    @CMRWoodworks 2 роки тому +1

    Great review video. I will plan on getting this system for my shop. Thanks Tom!

  • @haroldmorick2965
    @haroldmorick2965 Рік тому +2

    Very helpful! Thank you.

  • @craigmonteforte1478
    @craigmonteforte1478 4 роки тому +2

    Good Video ! Looks like Rockler did their homework on this system which is what i was hoping for from them kind of makes it warrant not pricing one together from other parts As a Retired Woodworker and between homes/ Shops I’m just looking at what my options are for the future shop and ive always had good luck with Rockler in the past

  • @TheWrate
    @TheWrate 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for this. I have a small shop and am looking to set up a wall mounted dust collection system that uses a very similar fan unit. Well done!

  • @BernRuelas
    @BernRuelas 4 роки тому +5

    Great video! and just what I've been researching. I'm going to install this same system in my garage!

    • @J_Madison
      @J_Madison 3 роки тому

      Did you ever install this? How do ya like it?

  • @mikeandlucky
    @mikeandlucky 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for your very well produced and helpful video. I have been very concerned about dust collection in my small shop as well and this would be an excellent solution.

  • @craigc7493
    @craigc7493 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video, thanks for making it!

  • @johnoquinn6740
    @johnoquinn6740 Рік тому +1

    Great video! I’m looking to set up something similar in my new shop. Thanks again! 🤗

  • @thorlo1278
    @thorlo1278 4 роки тому +12

    The following information is not scientific or about any one person, it is just my experience as an RN working with ventilated patients. By the time I was forced to retire from Nursing in 2011 I had had 24 years experience, with about 10 years in critical care. There are any number of diseases that cause people to end up requiring to be placed on a ventilator. Naturally, the majority of these diseases are respiratory in nature: smoking various forms of tobacco, working in plants that put out hazardous chemicals, working in mines, working in unventilated woodworking shops, working around woodworking materials without proper face masks, etc. Although I am an RN, I developed asthma and Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease due to chronic bronchitis. I have witnessed so many patients on ventilators, due to various diseases, and then see them just struggling to breath on the machine. Sometimes, in spite of the machine trying to breath for them, their bodies gave out and the patients died. So many of us in the woodworking industry work with little to no machine filtration, and/or shop air filtration, and we can and will develop lung diseases. At the very least, you owe it to your family and yourself to at least wear some type of face mask to protect your lungs from the harmful destruction of saw dust!

    • @paulmckeough1783
      @paulmckeough1783 4 роки тому +2

      Hey there, just want to echo this sentiment. I am also an RN working in a critical care setting with lot of respiratory patients. I’ve also seen a fair amount of COPD patients, not so much from woodworking, more from smoking and a little from industrial work. Doesn’t matter what causes any form of the respiratory conditions, it isn’t pleasant to observe someone struggling to breath and going the the anxiety that causes. I imagine it’s similar to breathing through a standard straw. I started woodworking as my hobby about 2 yrs ago, one of the first things I bought was a silicone Mask with N95 filters. While I use it all the time, I have found the fine dust particles build up everywhere and where you would least expect it. It matters when you are not wearing your mask and you go to move something while not really doing your craft and there is a small amount of dust that gets kicked up, this now makes its way into your lungs. I’ve found myself with some minor lung irritation. My current dust collection is just a small shop vac, and have been researching a more powerful and efficient system. I also plan to get an air filter, WEN makes one for about $120 on Amazon, I figure no amount of money is too much to protect your lungs and prevent the struggle I’ve witnessed. Thank you for this awesome review. I just subscribed to your channel, even though I’m not really interested in building guitars (I might be later, lol) but you have a great bedside manner! Thanks for being clear, thorough and welcoming in your presentation. Looking forward to discovering your content

  • @aprendamosconreneamaya725
    @aprendamosconreneamaya725 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks

  • @oleboy4332
    @oleboy4332 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @Rebel9668
    @Rebel9668 2 місяці тому

    I just wear a 3M respirator and sweep up my dust when I'm finished, or use my shop vac. If I install one of those big dust collectors, instead of mounting that bag to it, I'll just run an exhaust pipe through my garage wall and let the dust fly out the back of the garage. I live in a rural area and the worst that can happen is I wind up with a big pile of sawdust behind the garage which I can use for stuff like filling in holes in the yard from moles, etc.

  • @jm3227
    @jm3227 4 роки тому +6

    total cost for what was shown is roughly $897.97 (as of may 2020). Depending on the number of adapters you get and length of hose that $ figure increases.

    • @joeygonzo
      @joeygonzo 4 роки тому

      way too much . just get the real one

    • @funfreq9282
      @funfreq9282 3 роки тому

      Totally agree! Onida and Rockler are pretty proud of their stuff! Way to much for what it is. The cyclone is nothing more than molded plastic so the profit margin must be huge on that piece. The blower motor, Harbor Freight makes one that looks pretty close to it for under $160 and the bucket, what is that cardboard and tin? The profit margins that are built in these parts are astronomical. The only thing that is the limiting factor is the size of his shop! Otherwise a free standing unit from Grizzly or similar would have been a better bang for the buck!

    • @TSPhotoAtlanta
      @TSPhotoAtlanta 3 роки тому +1

      @@funfreq9282 I found food grade 25 gallon HDPE containers for sale used but clean near Atlanta, probably near most major cities in the US. Building the cyclone is the next step....

    • @funfreq9282
      @funfreq9282 3 роки тому

      @@TSPhotoAtlanta What material do you plan on using for the cyclone?

  • @TwoCaptainsOneShip
    @TwoCaptainsOneShip 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks, considering this or the 1250...I don't want to go too small and regret it..

  • @danotex213
    @danotex213 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for the video! SUPER helpful! But noticed that the rockler site says the bag goes to 30 microns - not 3 microns.

  • @scottdicker7051
    @scottdicker7051 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you

  • @kirillrebkovets4958
    @kirillrebkovets4958 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome video! I found it very helpful for what I'm doing!

  • @justinbrown6095
    @justinbrown6095 5 місяців тому

    Rockler’s catalog has the filter bag for this unit listed at 30 microns. Not 3. If that’s true I definitely wouldn’t ever use the filter bag as it’s just pumping the most harmful particles into the air. Go for the canister filter.

  • @richardt2905
    @richardt2905 2 роки тому

    Great job! Been looking to upgrade and I'm going to do this exact thing!

  • @AngieWilliamsDesigns
    @AngieWilliamsDesigns 2 роки тому

    So... that gasket you used... I'm assuming that it wasn't the one that came with it? I ordered this unit. Trying to get it installed. I came to watch the video again (watched before I ordered) to see if I was doing something wrong. The gasket is really thick. And The lid won't compress down far enough to clamp the ring. UGH!!!

  • @stephenrees438
    @stephenrees438 4 роки тому +1

    Bob, nice video and thanks for sharing your experiences with the installation process. A couple of question please. IYO what is the minimal amount of space or foot print needed to replicate your set up in a corner of my 3 car garage that houses my shop? Secondly, what would be your concerns of installing this set up in a shared corner with an ELECTRIC water heater? Thanks in advance for your input.

  • @donforex
    @donforex 3 роки тому

    Rockler states the original bag is 30-micron with a 5-micron bag available for purchase

  • @Painfulwhale360
    @Painfulwhale360 3 роки тому +2

    what a great video. Thanks for this. I think I might pick this up for my shop!

  • @jonruehle9186
    @jonruehle9186 4 роки тому

    I was thinking that I was watching Patrick Dempsey in his home shop. :-)

    • @rspencerttc
      @rspencerttc 3 роки тому

      I couldn’t place the name, but I knew the face!

  • @marek117w
    @marek117w 4 роки тому +1

    Very nice video.Thank you

  • @scottsell4182
    @scottsell4182 8 місяців тому

    I bought the larger dust right canister 2y ago and it’s now blowing fine dust through the filter. Called and the rep mentioned cleaning with an air compressor. Fine dust is now even worse. Wondering if you are still satisfied with your setup?

    • @TheArtOfLutherie
      @TheArtOfLutherie  7 місяців тому +1

      It was a great system, and I never had any issues with it. I eventually switched to this system ua-cam.com/video/sx8gxqb-Hqg/v-deo.html which is amazing.

  • @georgeboyle3967
    @georgeboyle3967 2 роки тому

    Do you operate a table saw, a jointer and a router using your new DC system? I’m interested in the performance. Thank you.

  • @archtopguitar1638
    @archtopguitar1638 4 роки тому +5

    Thanks Tom for this video...
    You used two types of hose ... one with plastic ribbing and the blue hose with metal wire ribbing. You will need to replace the plastic ribbed hose with the blue hose. After that is done, you must strip off the hose insulation down to the bare wire where you cut the hose ends to length. Then you need to take some bare copper wire which you can get in a kit from Lee Valley tools ...
    www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/workshop/dust-collection/parts-and-accessories/62616-grounding-kit-for-dust-collection-systems
    ... and connect the bare wire end to the metal base of your machine with this wire on the one end and a length of the same copper wire connected from the dust collector frame to the other bare wire end of the hose.
    WHY?
    If you don't, static electricity can occur as the cyclone spins and as the chips travel inside the hose rubbing against the those surfaces and the resulting friction can cause sparks which have been known to ignite fire inside the dust collector.
    I used these banana connectors for speaker cables to make connecting easy for your method...
    www.amazon.ca/Ltvystore-Speaker-Solderless-Connector-SocketTerminal,Pack/dp/B07M83P2PM/ref=pd_sbs_23_7?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07M83P2PM&pd_rd_r=06f5de95-a1b2-47af-8ffd-7017073aaf9a&pd_rd_w=H4Hhl&pd_rd_wg=CSmH6&pf_rd_p=c7838c3c-6de6-46ad-946c-b7318af714fb&pf_rd_r=EHT7Z9HBX7CK1DNXRB27&psc=1&refRID=EHT7Z9HBX7CK1DNXRB27
    Where ever there is friction....there is static electricity....where ever there is raw electricity there are sparks so please retro your duct collection system so that static electricity is GROUNDED....
    Art of Lutherie member....
    Best regards,
    Andry

    • @TSPhotoAtlanta
      @TSPhotoAtlanta 3 роки тому +1

      You could use bare copper or bare aluminum wire from any source. Use screws to ground it, attach with epoxy mixed with conductive metal dust, use wire-nuts. The costs are already soaring.

  • @sufinawaz
    @sufinawaz 4 роки тому +2

    Hi - how much was your overall cost for this?

  • @steven.woodward
    @steven.woodward 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the motivational pitch on dust collection. I notice you used a clear hose and a blue colour hose. Any reason for that ? Could you provide a link to the hoses that you used.

    • @Taylexwow
      @Taylexwow 3 роки тому

      If he used a Rockler hose its just blue, its a branding thing for them

  • @plusafdotcom959
    @plusafdotcom959 Рік тому

    I bought the smaller version and ran into some challenges...
    Item Description Ordered Qty Shipped Qty
    53522 WALL MOUNT DC CANISTER 1.0000 1.0000
    What I didn't understand was how accurate the product Description was....
    (1) Dust Right® Canister Filter for Wall Mount Dust Collector
    (1) Mounting Bracket
    (1) Plastic Dust Bag
    NO screws for the mounting collar/bracket to the fan OR to the filter!
    Multiple emails to the customer service people verified this and the instruction sheet's descriptions of the bolts were not 'standard,' either: "15 x 1/2 inch " ? Do NOT go looking for that at your hardware store.
    I had to get out my tap sets to figure out the thread pitch before I could get the right bolts (8 of them.)
    Plus, I had to run the taps into the mounting nuts to get the paint layer off because the bolts' threads couldn't catch until I did that.
    It's on my wall now, and I'm considering making it a two-stage system, too.
    Great video and explanation of the steps involve, and I hope my experience with the bolts was unique to me and not anyone else. Aside from that, it's a great system and sounds 20-30 dB quieter than the bag it replaced!

  • @izzychen7537
    @izzychen7537 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the review! I was looking to purchase the Dust Right 650 CFM for my small workshop as well. One question though- If you have a cyclone as the first stage, do you really need to purchase the filter as well or just connect the bag to the dust collector?

    • @TheArtOfLutherie
      @TheArtOfLutherie  4 роки тому +5

      Hi Israel, So glad the review was helpful! You definitely don't have to use the filter. I did, mainly because the tiny amount of dust that makes it past the cyclone is comprised mostly of very fine particles which happen to be the most dangerous. So if you can, it's nice to have the filter that captures those finer particles. In case it's helpful, I think I talked in more detail about this stuff in my article here: theartoflutherie.com/dust-collection/

  • @jimp6576
    @jimp6576 3 роки тому

    I have been sanding wood floors since 1987. The first 5 years no dust mask.no mask for finish application. Yeah really stupid , but I didn't know. Oh and a smoker for 40 plus years.
    Lungs are good, thank God.
    But now dust really bothers me.
    I'm looking for a dust collection system for my workshop.

  • @charliechoiniere8755
    @charliechoiniere8755 4 роки тому

    How much clearance is there behind the canister and the wall? I have a cement have wall and wondering if it would clear it or not or if I would need to build a box for it to sit on in order to clear it. Thanks!

  • @patrickjohnson3765
    @patrickjohnson3765 4 роки тому

    howdy, can you close off the bottom? do you really need the plastic bag with 2 stages? I have limited vertical space so i figure if I don't need the bag I could just make a cover for the bottom.

  • @MrPavaroti
    @MrPavaroti 4 роки тому +1

    Where did you install the vortex devise?

  • @rishibajaj6770
    @rishibajaj6770 3 роки тому

    Great video been looking for this for a while. is there a reason you went with the 650 CFM and not the 1250 CFM? I believe rockler has both models that are wall-mountable.

  • @charlescheesman1318
    @charlescheesman1318 3 роки тому

    What study were you looking at?

  • @kevintoly2864
    @kevintoly2864 Рік тому

    “Try not to bend the hose too tightly in any direction” seconds later the hose is in a U-turn going into the inlet😂

  • @georgeburchett5798
    @georgeburchett5798 2 роки тому +1

    This is good information. However wouldn't it be nice if all sanders and other wood working equipment had that large of a connection point for dust collection! This is a huge problem when trying to install a system like this. Nothing is standardized on my equip. That not only makes connecting all of the equipment up very difficult, but changes and reduces the power at each connection point. Evert reducer and elbow really reduces air flow! Findings all of the connectors is a big problem and the end results are difficult to predict. If only there was some standardization to the connection size on wood working equipment! there should be a law that requires some standards for this!

  • @GassyJalapeno
    @GassyJalapeno Рік тому

    Probably one of the better setups I’ve seen. Do you have the dimension of that corner. Looks like you got 4x8 plywood mounted to the wall. Not sure if that will fit my wall near garage door and my other corners I can’t use.

    • @TheArtOfLutherie
      @TheArtOfLutherie  Рік тому

      You should be able to fit a setup like that in a corner of about 30"X30", or maybe even a little less. Rockler makes a few different models now, so it's best to check the dimensions of whichever model you decide on just to be sure.

  • @Mark-ol2ll
    @Mark-ol2ll 4 роки тому

    What would a set like this cost?

  • @rodkempf9407
    @rodkempf9407 4 роки тому +2

    Where did you get the cyclone and the drum for it, great video. Thanks for all the info.

    • @1averageamerican
      @1averageamerican 4 роки тому

      This is a Rockler system.

    • @Taylexwow
      @Taylexwow 3 роки тому

      @@1averageamerican No, the cyclone and drum are Oneida only the collector and filter are Rockler

  • @billystray7007
    @billystray7007 4 роки тому +1

    im considering this set up as a 1 machine (bandsaw) type thing anyone ever done this ?

  • @samsngdevice5103
    @samsngdevice5103 4 роки тому

    What did it cost?

  • @MindsDozer
    @MindsDozer 4 роки тому +1

    except positive pressure filtration is very leaky and that system would never pass DOP.

    • @Dev-lc4cd
      @Dev-lc4cd 4 роки тому

      You're thinking of bag filters, these canister filters are not leaky

    • @MindsDozer
      @MindsDozer 4 роки тому +1

      @@Dev-lc4cd I believe HEPA vacuum coffee requires that HEPA filtration occurs in the intake side of the motor so there is negative air pressure on the dirty side of the filter

  • @hj8607
    @hj8607 3 роки тому

    the unit you installed is 1.5 hp , not 3/4.

  • @Steve_MFr
    @Steve_MFr 4 роки тому +6

    Hi Tom,
    Thanks for the vid and the info. And while you are right on minimizing bends and distances between the collector and the machine, you may be killing most of your dust collection in the hose. Every rib in the hose sets up a mini eddy in the airflow that slows the flow and separates dust in the hose. You might want to consider using straight sections of PVC pipe in your main connection to the machines and connecting the cyclone to the blower with pipe as well.
    billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/ducting.cfm#ducting_resistance
    "Almost all small shop dust collectors and cyclones are gravely underpowered, so we need to use the smoothest pipe we can get to minimize resistance that rapidly kills these lower airflows. To minimize resistance, the interior of the pipe needs to be as smooth as possible and you need long smooth sweeping smooth bends on all your elbows and wyes."

    • @BenNawrath
      @BenNawrath 4 роки тому

      I'd go one step further, mount the DC sideways so the inlet is pointing down, and hook the super DD up with the shortest piece of hose possible. Super clean.

  • @TheDejfson
    @TheDejfson 4 роки тому

    where to buy it in europe?

  • @ryanspivey2453
    @ryanspivey2453 10 днів тому

    Don’t get me wrong, I clicked on the video so I’m obviously a fan of the topic but this also seems like a prime example of correlation vs causation. The stats you’re quoting about loss of respiratory function are near impossible to attribute solely to airborne particulates period, let alone from woodworking alone.
    Plus, let’s be real that wood working isn’t exactly the chosen hobby of the young and super fit. Many a hobbyists’ shop is occupied by someone who’s probably spending more time watching dust collection videos on UA-cam than they are working in their cardio. I mean, not me, but definitely others…

  • @richpeiffer6274
    @richpeiffer6274 4 роки тому

    Nice review! Looking at a similar setup. Have you tried with a thickness planer yet? I am wondering if the small setup still has enough power to effectively work with a small benchtop thickness planer.

    • @MarkJonesRanger
      @MarkJonesRanger 4 роки тому +1

      Planner will fill up your 15 gallon bucket pretty quickly. I pull my planner out in the driveway and let it plane away. I use a scoop shovel and put it in the dumpster. Now if you doing one board or two every two weeks it will work fine. If your doing a pallet of rough sawn boards do it outside.

  • @0Myles0
    @0Myles0 3 роки тому +1

    Gets me thinking.
    The most famous carpenter of all time died at about 35 years.

    • @incognitotorpedo42
      @incognitotorpedo42 3 роки тому +1

      He only used hand tools. I don't think it was the dust that got him.

    • @johnoquinn6740
      @johnoquinn6740 Рік тому

      And…He knew He would die young, and did it anyway. Willingly. ❤️

  • @whitevanman8703
    @whitevanman8703 4 роки тому

    1:10 The shorter than average life spans are due to the fact that many woodworkers work in construction like me. The high death rate in the construction industry is well known, workers in the industry go to work every day facing a higher risk then the general population has faced with corona virus. In sum my work is more likely to kill me than corona virus.

  • @brandonweisberg2619
    @brandonweisberg2619 4 роки тому

    Question:
    Does anyone think that going up to the 1250cfm unit is actually worth it? I only plan on using this on one tool at a time with the quick change hose/fittings.

    • @TSPhotoAtlanta
      @TSPhotoAtlanta 3 роки тому

      Bigger is always better, except when you have to pay more for the gear, and for more power, live with more noise whenever you use it, and you don't use but one machine at a time. It would be different in a multiperson shop with more machines going at the same time, or even if one person finds a way to use a widebelt sander and tablesaw at the same time

  • @scubart
    @scubart 4 роки тому

    Cheap?

    • @Taylexwow
      @Taylexwow 3 роки тому

      The collector is 270, and that canister filter is 230, so ignoring the cyclone add ons you are looking at 500

  • @romaineathey6512
    @romaineathey6512 3 роки тому

    I did it myself with the Stodoys plans. I think this is the best way to find out how to build it.

  • @charlottepapy2695
    @charlottepapy2695 4 роки тому +4

    So long winded, all the information is good, just needs to be condensed and edit out the redunancies.

  • @AnasSuhaimi
    @AnasSuhaimi 3 роки тому

    McDreamy don't work in hospital anymore?

  • @dougprentice1363
    @dougprentice1363 7 місяців тому

    Never use the bag. It is a dust spreader.

  • @enitalp
    @enitalp 3 роки тому

    You didn’t plugged the cyclone !!!!!!

  • @xrockerguy
    @xrockerguy 4 роки тому

    Talks about safety and health yet wears no eye-pro.

  • @MrPavaroti
    @MrPavaroti 4 роки тому

    Oops!!I didn't watch the video till the end apologies!

  • @Errol.C-nz
    @Errol.C-nz 4 роки тому +4

    I thought...you were going to present an "efficient" extractor system...these fan units are just...cheap...nothing eeeefficient about them...the cyclone seperator & filter are effective...an efficient system has the cyclone type concept built into a scroll type centrafugal fan unit feeding into a downdraft filter canister for the momentum of heavish dust to throw the dust to bottom of a baffled can, not a bag, and air to turn and exit via the higher mounted filter element...you have too much length of ribbed flexi tube...it creates high airflow losses, worse than having bends!!!

  • @joshuatharpe9397
    @joshuatharpe9397 4 роки тому +7

    Great video! I have been on the fence about investing in dust collection but you sold me. Thanks!

  • @jasonbarile2014
    @jasonbarile2014 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the great video. How do you like it a year later?

  • @joedance14
    @joedance14 4 роки тому +3

    Nice video and article. Did not see the link to the referenced study, which I would like to read. One point: in the video and article photo, the clear hose makes a tight 180 degree bend to go behind the canister filter and down to the cyclone. Tight bends like that cost performance. Thanks again!

    • @TSPhotoAtlanta
      @TSPhotoAtlanta 3 роки тому

      Did he do that to make a better visual frame? I wondered about that.

    • @jackhealy8467
      @jackhealy8467 2 роки тому

      I saw the link. It's imbedded the article, printed in green italics.

  • @ivanaguilar8820
    @ivanaguilar8820 4 роки тому +3

    nice vid!! I'm sold on this! do you have an air filtration system in your shop? or just collection? I agree with you as a woodworker and keeping a safe, healthy environment to work in. Is this filter good enough for filtration? nice videos great communicator!

  • @OnePotMeals
    @OnePotMeals 2 роки тому +2

    Nice job. I am just about where you were, so I really have to up my dust collection game. Thank you

  • @wakelywanderer12
    @wakelywanderer12 3 роки тому +2

    This is an excellent video. I put together this system today. The instructions for the canister filter were useless, I just used your information. Thanks.

  • @kenanklovitch8117
    @kenanklovitch8117 3 роки тому +2

    Fantastic video Sir, you've sold me on this system. Thanks very much my friend!

  • @beardedgarage
    @beardedgarage 2 роки тому +2

    Great video. Short, sweet, to the point and a full system. Thanks!

  • @metatechnologist
    @metatechnologist 3 роки тому +2

    Came for the dust collector, stayed for the Luthier course.

  • @BatandBallCricket
    @BatandBallCricket 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the in depth process you followed.
    Looks like your workshop is about the same as mine. I won't have the room you do to get to the dust ports of my tools and I'm time poor so feel I'm unlikely to move them for a quick job.
    So I'm thinking about setting up ducting with blast gates. Do you think this Dust Right system could handle an 18 feet run? I'd been thinking I'd need something with more power, but your comment about efficiency has me thinking this could do the job. Appreciate your thoughts having used the system over the last year or so.

  • @richardsorge-
    @richardsorge- 3 роки тому +1

    Mmmm... the amount of small particles ( less than 1 micron) is the problem, no matter how good the filtering system is. If You can, by all means , put any kind of dust collector outside the shop. The loss of pressure for a few meters of duct is neglectable compared to the benefits.

  • @tinkeringeekkissimmeefl4495
    @tinkeringeekkissimmeefl4495 2 дні тому

    Thanks for sharing your experience. It is very helpful to set up a dust collection in a small garage.

  • @jberman-code
    @jberman-code 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for the video, very detailed. I am also looking for a dust filter and that air filter caniser seems what I might be looking for, is it reusable or when time comes to replace it I have to buy the entire canister air filter or any insert available, which will be fraction of replacing the entire filter.

  • @davidmalin1884
    @davidmalin1884 3 роки тому +2

    Hi Tom. Thanks for a very thorough presentation. I bought the same system this spring and now installing it. Your anecdotal comments made along the way will be very helpful. Can’t wait to have it up and running in a few days.

  • @crazycdn8327
    @crazycdn8327 Рік тому +1

    Just want to say, new science shows the most dangerous particles to woodworkers is 0.3-5 micron, though 5-10 are equally as bad but most even cheap systems take care of them. But the truly dangerous stuff is under 2 microns. I know this is a 3 yr old video now, but you can upgrade your filter, it will be taller/longer but they're not that much more expensive to go down to that 0.2 or 0.3 micron size. Great video, thanks!

  • @janodjano5828
    @janodjano5828 2 роки тому +1

    Kinda liking your vibe, I buy guitars just to look at because I can’t play at all.
    Trying to get a Mule , Still.
    Enjoy stay healthy in the new year 👍🏼🔔

  • @jewdd1989
    @jewdd1989 Рік тому +1

    Now I regret buying my wall hung shop vac lol. This was very helpful though, I think it’s an important discussion and your demonstration is clear and makes a lot more sense than the obnoxious pipe systems many end up using which is great for some but just not practical for ppl like myself who aren’t full time or even selling work yet

  • @Snausages32
    @Snausages32 2 роки тому +1

    Great video

  • @jamesfriesen9633
    @jamesfriesen9633 Рік тому +1

    One suggestion: If you could somehow set up the on/off switches so that when you turn on a tool, like your sander for instance, it automatically turns the dust collector system on, then you wouldn't have to turn on the dust collector separately.

  • @acesdeuce6945
    @acesdeuce6945 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you. Wonderful assessment and hopefully the companies gave the items for free for promoting them...

  • @ronnorris1504
    @ronnorris1504 2 роки тому +1

    Great detail on dust collection from Rockler. That looks like it'll work great in my small shop as well.

  • @Xiomaro01
    @Xiomaro01 7 місяців тому

    25 years in the game now without all this. Oh well. Not much to hang on to anyway

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst2878 4 роки тому +1

    The story you stated about respiratory problems is extremely common in just about any work field with dust. Most of the problem is most guys just do not take preventive precautions. There is a reason the OSHA insists on lung protection, it is for your safety. When you were talking about losing suction because of long piping is because you did not use long radius pipes in the system and even smaller size pipe. When you calculate C F M correctly you will not have any problem. Today everybody is a jack of all trades Master of none. I believe the last sentence say it all. Please do not think that I am drowning you in any way cause I am NOT. Also, the vortex that you are showing has been around for I would bet you a hundred years. Just look any old factory dealing with dust and you will see vortex many feet tall. That being said you made my day showing the average guy what and how to maybe save his life for the benefit of his family. No one want a fatherless family. Your last statement about the did not notice any difference with performance is flawed because you are not pushing the dust collector to the limit. Just use the prefilter for less work overall. Nice job fella. Keep on making them guitars as people just seem to want more and more of those instruments.

    • @Dev-lc4cd
      @Dev-lc4cd 4 роки тому

      Its ok to save your own life for your own benefit, that would be smart too.

  • @daveodden6042
    @daveodden6042 2 роки тому +1

    i dig that system. thanks for the great video.