Dust Collection System Upgrade
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2020
- In this weeks video I cover the installation and design of my new 6” thin wall PVC central dust collection system. If you want to watch me install the Clear Cue Cyclones CV1800, go to my instagram page, and click on the “dust collector” highlighted story. bit.ly/alminsta
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4” Stable Gate Blast Gate www.rockler.com/4-stablegate-...
Dust Right® 4” Swivel Port www.rockler.com/dust-right-4-...
Keyed Bridge Hose Clamps www.rockler.com/4-keyed-bridg...
Dust Right® 4” Flex Hose www.rockler.com/rockler-4-dia...
Dust Right® 2.5” Flex Hose www.rockler.com/dust-right-re...
Dust Right® 4” Quick Change Shop and Tool Set www.rockler.com/rockler-dust-...
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First, great video. Clear voice-over, simple camera angles, and very informative. Second, in my opinion people should start calling out the predatory companies like the one that tried to charge you triple of what another store charged you. Hell, mention them both so local folks know where to shop and where to avoid.
Ah man this is a great install I’ve been putting mine in to my basement shop with low ceilings. It would be so nice to have this much headspace for routing pipes!
Thanks for your show!
In my experience, if you drop straight down to each tool (as in the example above), they each act as interceptor collecting bin (you've basically built a venturi port). Dust from the farthest tool can't jump that gap and ends up pooling in the adjacent tool drop. The trick is to have at least a short horizontal section at each fork, so dust heading to the collector doesn't have to jump across any down-pipes... cause it won't! A buddy of mine, who built his as shown above, has to now run around his shop, starting from the farthest tool, and open and close each gate to get the dust to hop from one tool drop to the next on the way to the collector!
mounting that quick change to the wall is brilliant. No blast gate or cap needed, it never passes air until you pull it from the wall. Great idea, and I will do the same (setting up mine over the next couple weeks).
I've given a lot of thought recently to updating the layout of my shop, including the addition of better dust collection. I have the Dust Right 650 wall-mounted with just the 4" expandable hose that I swap between tools. I'm watching this almost four years to the day you posted it, and this has given me some great ideas on a direction to take. Thank you!
Great mounting brackets! I'm going to need several when I get my dust collection build started. Nicely done!
Really nice install, and great shop layout -- wish I had that much space. I built a 4" system last year (my vacuum could never handle 6" ducting), and, all the parts came from Rockler as well (I'm lucky to have one just a few miles away).
I did find one issue with the 4" plastic blast gates, that you may or may not run into with the 6" version. On the gates that service the more heavily used equipment (table saw, universal port, chop saw) the dust would collect in the groove that the gate slides into. After a while the gate wouldn't close completely, and suction would suffer, so I'd be constantly cleaning out those grooves with a screwdriver, or awl... Finally, I replaced the plastic gates with metal, self-cleaning blast gates from Lee Valley. Pricier, but worth it to me. No more issues.
Anyway, great video... enjoy the new system.
Really awesome system, really satisfying to watch it come together and work. I can't wait to have something like this in my factory one day
I just finished building a 4" thin wall PVC system for my shop. Just using a 2hp HF collector, but it's a tiny shop and on a budget. Still feels awesome!
Great job love the way you made the brackets it's like having a giant wet vac for the whole shop. Being that saw dust is flammable I would look into some fire prevention system just in case. Love you're shop.
Great video. I just built my own 810sqft shop for woodworking. I started with a cyclone dust collection for my shop vac. So so results. I have been think about a more polished functional dust collection system and your video has me inspired. Love the wooden brackets over metal strapping. Keep the videos coming. Subscribed.
I just came across your channel. I love it! I'm taking one end of one of the buildings of the dairy farm I recently bought and turning it into my woodworking shop, 36' x 36'. (A guy needs a get-away.) I have questioned my dust collection from day one. I think you just answered it. Great job. I look forward to your content.
I am so envious of your shop and this dust collection. Though I couldnt use it myself (handicapped), I know that I would if I could AND I know you are going to be very happy with it. Enjoy the extra time woodworking instead of raw cleaning!
New woodworker here.... definitely taking notes!! Nice work! Thanks for all the content!
We live in a world with instant messages, we watch instructions seconds on our computers from across the globe.. But dust collection.. We still live in the stone age here in Sweden with our shopvacs and the old hose-impeller bag/filter bag.. Showed my cyclone for a 2" pipe to my dad and he couldnt belive his eyes.. It was like magic..
Just installed my CV1800 over the weekend. Great unit
Randomly came across this video. Well done! Love the humor, and the reccomendations!
Not sure what is about this video but its so clean, precise and clear information. Very effecient! Thank you, a project I need to tackle👍🏻
Having grown up pushing boards through table-saws with scraps, that little board pusher you have there is pretty neat.
Love the dust collection. Great job👍🏼
Looks so amazing and love the sweeping port
Yes, the sweeping port is the slickest part of the system, IMO.
I enjoyed this video. Well executed, no waste of time and you actually showed the results with each of your machines. I appreciate that. I am trying to figure out how to set up a dust collection system in a new shop I am having built. It's a 50x60 workshop and my first project is dust collection. This video will help me with that project. Thank you for posting and you have earned another subscriber.
It's Feb 2021 and I've been dealing with shortages of just about everything. I checked over a half dozen local plumbing pipe distributors and no one had 6" thin wall PVC. I finally found SDR 35 at a yard specializing in sewer and drain, mostly used for road construction. They had a great price too.
Nice job. I just finished my system... 6" main run to the center of my shop, a 6" to dual 4" y-pipe (came with my Grizzly) for sub-runs to my two main tool areas and then with blast gate controlled branches to each tool's flex hose final (4" and 2.5"). I used SDR 35 pipe and found the easiest way to cut it by drilling a small hole and using a jigsaw. SDR 35 pipe and fittings are so much cheaper than schedule 40... about half the cost. My system works great... Grizzly G0944 with an Oneida Super Dust Deputy XL (6" inlet/outlet), wall mounted with easy to remove bin under the Oneida.
Thanks! I'm going to use this idea to vent my four 3D printers with a central system.
That is looking slick! Using the silicone tape for the seams is such a good idea. It looks so clean!
Thanks Sharon! Yeah that stuff is pretty perfect. I really didn’t want to cover the pipes in foil tape 😬
Great video. Informative without allot of fluff. Well shot, not too loud or too long for the content covered.
Fantastic video and great timing as we’re tackling dust collection in my shop this weekend!!
Awesome! Good luck!!
Great build.
I worked in a dry food plant, we had metal vacuum system from Hoffman, went to PVC system then back to metal.The biggest problem was static electricity, we solved that with sheet metal screws into the vacuum stream, then attached to copper wire & grounded on conduit or metal poles. The PVC pipe got holes in it much sooner the metal pipe, that the reason we went back to metal. That may not be a problem for you, because we had truck load of salt & sand like waste that cut/ground though the pipe. You have saw dust & wood chips, but I wanted to make you aware of the potential problems. I have never worked in a wood shop with PVC systems, all I worked in had no vacuum system or they had all metal. I am building a small shop for a friend on his farm & we will look at Rockler when we do.
Sweet System and Install ! What a huge improvement nice work om all the Custom brackets
This gave me a lot of inspiration for my dust collection, thanks.
Excellent video and process. You must love it when a plan comes together. Thanks for sharing. I will add this project to my wish list.
Very impressive installation and great job running that pipe.
dude this is clean AF! good job and thanks for sharing!
Great review/system build. I’ve been brainstorming on how to set up something for my garage. I like this set up a lot. Thanks for sharing.
Nice icepick shout-out Love it!
I know you said your router table already had great DC, but you can make it even better by using an insert with a bigger hole. It won't affect the safety unless your working with really small wood
@Yo MamaWhy is that incorrect?
WOW!!! a really good job! congratulations!
Love this, got something similar planned. Cheers from Australia
12:31 The silicone tape is the real hero here and looks like it came in handy.....quite handy indeed. Fantastic for re attachment of.. separate tissues. Its properties make it effortless due to the unique way in which it adheres to the human cells. Not only is it effective and inexpensive but its also sexy. The air cleaner was great too. Thank.
Don’t know how you don’t have more subscribers. This video was a great watch!
Your an artist/craftsman with everything you do.
Nicely done Michael 👍 Very functional too 😃
Congrats! It's awesome Michael!
Nicely done man! That suction is incredibly powerful. Great job on the video too
Thanks Johnny!
WOW....what an awesome video. I'm impressed....and I seriously appreciate your time and information.
Great video bud. I wish I had known about that silicon tape when I did mine.
Thanks dude! Yeah that was a tip from someone on instagram, and he told me just in time. I really didn't want to foil tape it. See you at WBC?
@@MichaelAlm yeah. Come to my talk!
same
@@katzmosestools If only we knew then, what we know now... I'm guessing the conference didn't happen?
Very satisfying to watch...
I think things getting cleaned is also satisfying to watch :)
Congratulations! 🍾
That looks absolutely amazing
Real nice review and video my friend! Thanks for sharing. BTW, great looking setup for that dust collector too!
Really nice system! Thanks for posting.
Cool system have a feeling this would work great in my shop.... start saving now...
Great video as always.
I've cut a lot of large PVC pipe on a table saw. The easiest way is to use a sled and a stop block. Push the sled and pipe into the blade and then rotate the pipe slowly with your fingers and you get a perfect 360 degree cut.
Bravo!....looks great!...love that floor collector
There's nothing more eternal than something temporary :)
Cool system. 👍
Michael Alm you lucky mo 😀👍👍👍🍻 Awesome workshop and video you have made!!
Nice job. My old system used the thin wall 4” PVC pipe but I never figured the 6” would be so effective. It must be a volume thing 🧐
I’m with Katz Man…love that tape!
Great system. I wish I had the room for such a tall unit. I found for my bandsaw and drill press flexible drain pipe is great for getting the dust on the surface. I actually got one in silver instead of white for $5.00 on eBay. I made some homemade clamps to hold it in place and on the end that is closest to the workpiece is a small rectangle port that actually came with a vacuum cleaner. They do sell them though at Rockler if that is your go-to place.
Great narrative on your installation. 👍🏻👍🏻
That cyclone system is very nice! I had the same issue on my sander, I just have a 4" blast gate that rests on top of the dust port and it collects pretty much all the dust.
Thanks! Good to know! I’m going to have to do that
@@MichaelAlm have you guys seen Colin Knecht's (WoodWorkWeb) dust collection upgrade for the oscillating spindle/belt sander?
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Excellent video and great ideas many of which I will use for my shop vacuum system!
Great job buddy, not seen to many 6” main track too often....looks awesome too..😎
That's a great setup. The shop is looking great!
Thank you!
Great presentation and really informative...thanks for posting.
Great install, it looks good and fits perfectly into your shop.
Thanks Dave!
This was so amazing and satisfying to watch
impressed by the system. i am gone make it soon to my workshop. thanks for idea.
Outstanding video. Very informative. Thank you.
That came out really nice!
Great video ! Six inch is the way to go.
Original dust collector also works great with 6 inch pipes.
Plumbing supply in Belleville Ontario Canada selling one 4" by 6" reducer for $56 Canadian .
Using 10 ft flexible until I can source reasonable prices on earth.
It's cool seeing the finished product after watching the IG stories. Also, kudos on the video production. Very well done.
Thanks Mike!
This is very clean and seems to have plenty of power.
Great video and very helpful. That's the exact dust collector I'm planning to buy - great job.
Glad to hear it!
Very nice, Michael!
Excellent, especially the tape.
Great video man.
Thanks for sharing your ideas with others.
What a great job. Beautiful shop. Subscribed.
Dude, I would wish that have system here in Brazil. awesome. congratulation.
Excellent job. Work great and look awesome!
very nice install. rollin easy is hard to beat.
Hello my friend. One of the most important systems of the workshops is dust collection. Dust and shavings are also a big problem in my workshop. Improving the dust collection system will create a comfortable workspace for you. Thank you for the system and information. Congratulations. Good ideas. Thank you for sharing. Warm hug. Great greetings....
I dont have plans for dust collection but this was pretty cool to see. Nice job on the video bud. I dig the VO
Thanks dude!
I like the brackets you made much more then the ghetto nylon strapping I used with my clearvue ducting
I’m so jealous but happy for you
Thanks for the video
so relaxing laying pipe!
Nice job!
Thanks Chris! You going to be out at Workbench Con this year?
Nice setup, awesome upgrade! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
Thanks Fred! 👊
The sound of the fan is satisfying XD
Nice system and not sure if anyone mentioned this, but when you use PVC for dust collection, you should ground the PVC, PVC is very prone to generating a static charge when air is moving along the inside of it, along with charged particles of wood and other debris. This static can build-up to the point where it arcs to ground unexpectedly. With the right combination of materials and oxygen levels, this can cause a dust fire or an explosion to occur.
There are zero reported cases of this ever happening. This is an urban legend. At most you get a little shock when you touch the pipe.
@@chrisjohnson6482 I can confirm this is not urban legend. I do not know about USA but I have personally spoken to the electrical certification person that was part of explosion investigation. MDF dust especially is a problem. Small shops like this might get away with this but anything bigger like a 5 person shop will generate enough of static to be a potential problem. Ground it or use spiro metal tubing and groud that. I personally would use the adaptors reducers traps and go with metal spiro tubing. easy to ground no shocks fire proof.
@@majstrujeme8352 hard to say what the causing factors were in that anecdotal third party telling of a tale. You cannot ground pvc even if you wanted to. And there would need to be a concentration of fine dust that is so thick you cannot see through it for it to be dense enough to combust. Plus again there are zero reported proven cases of it ever happening. That you heard about something like it happening maybe once doesn't concretely prove anything
Then again, I am not here to tell you what to do in your own shop. If you want to wrap wire around your pvc and pretend you are "grounding" it be my guest
@@chrisjohnson6482 I would use metal round duct pipe and you are mistaking sawdust for MDF particles. It is not anecdotal. The plan is to test again in lab and possibly classify wood shops processing MDF as explosive area for electrical wiring. Because you didn't see it doesn't mean it's not real. I am perfectly aware that grounding PVC pipe does nothing. Unless you would completely wrap it in aluminum foil. I am not wood worker I am electrician that was at the electrical wiring safety board recert.
@@majstrujeme8352 I meant any fine dust particles. Again there have been zero substantiated cases. But you should still feel free to do whatever you want to do
Nice Job! Got good ideas from you! Thank you.
Great job! Love your videos.
Nice setup!
Awesome dust collection system, i made a smaller dust collector cart for my small workshop but i wish to install a system like yours one day. Great video i just subscribed !! :)
Thank you!
Just subscribed to your channel. Liked your new dust collection system. Hope to build one for my small shop someday.
Good job!! Looks great
This is so satisfying
Great system and ideas.
Magnificent, BRAVO CLAP CLAP CLAP!!! good work mate. Im building mine now
Nice system and setup.