@@lisaelisa4772 I wouldn't call that an affair either, more like cheating, but overall: Yeah. If the boy-/girlfriend called it an affair, that would be the exception (the only one).
I am from India and this is a case that still boggles me to this day. The fact that there were SO. MANY. discrepancies by the Police Department and the other people overall seem so very sketchy. How did absolutely NO one notice Hemraj’s body on the rooftop??? Not even a neighbour noticed??? And the way media has framed this poor 13 year old girl for having an “affair” with someone who saw her as his own daughter… disgusting. May their souls rest in peace 🕊️
There are a few details that they missed to tell in this case: 1. Hemraj had not sent his family any money in months. It was speculated that he took loan from someone, and that anonymous body was after him. Hence, he contacted the social worker. 2. The person who did the autopsy on the victim had NEVER done an autopsy on a woman before. He did not even know how the privates are supposed to look.
how do you become a coroner without knowing the anatomy of a woman????? I mean we have an issue in the USA where most men don't know how women's anatomies work but the coroners know, you can't become a doctor without at least seeing a woman's anatomy. I'm sorry I know there are cultural differences but as a woman it makes me so angry that they don't have to know what a woman looks like we don't matter enough.
@@anitacrumblyas an Indian i don't think that is possible, i would say more so that, that doctor hasn't seen female private parts in real life....the samples in lab is mostly definitely not the same as real life but then again I am not sure cause then this case took place, i was just little over a year old so ... additionally it was 2008, things were not like now at all so ...
Lol as a medical student in India its absolutely impossible to not know human female anatomy before being an doctor who could do an autopsy. But definitely there can be someone not so educated about the samples to be taken. But such things happen only from newly employed doctor, and its highly unlikely that a newbie to be given a high profile case as murder without supervision of his/her seniors. Also if u may imagine its not just the doctor, but there are multiple trained personals present who would've pointed out the if the doctor was missing something.
Another important detail that was not mentioned in this video is there was a handprint found on the terrace right beside the door the leads to terrace (this was as soon as they found Hemraj’s body), but the police did not take any sample from the handprint or try to preserve the handprint (which was shocking). The next day it rained and the handprint eventually faded away. The amount of police negligence in this case is insane.
I might have missed it, but I heard nothing about a dna investigation on her body. If she was sa'd and that was a part of the motive for the crime, wouldn't it be very easy to find dna traces, which could be connected to any of the men involved in this crime. Simply proving that Hemraj did not sa her would already be a HUGE development in figuring out the situation and why Hemraj was also killed.
As an Indian, the most disgusting thing about witnessing this case as a 13 year old myself, was the false salaciousness around the narrative. The fact that the media had the audacity to dissect into most intimate thoughts of a developing teenager and could slut shame, a 13 year old is gross. We have no clue what happened, but even if she was found in compromising position, she was still a victim, incapable of consent. Media exploited every second of this tragedy. It is absolutely shameful.
@@Nagvanshieus I was 13 when this case unfolded. These sensitive details were heavily publicized on every headline and every front cover of any daily mail. It was unavoidable, but more so, disgusting to process it back then.
i was a year younger than aarushi, and now as a 28 year old, it absolutely sickens me that people would think she would willingly sleep with ANYONE. it's beyond vile and the media wasn't criticised enough imo.
@@Nagvanshieus . Perhaps because she is a mature 13 year old, judging from her eloquent and articulated language? Plus, being aware of such atrocities and injustices at such a delicate age is a credit to her intelligence and perhaps her own loss of innocence that society would go so far to shame the victim so they can neatly wrap up the case.
@@0230Raveena OR, perhaps, because they where 13 AT THAT TIME and it was heavily covered in the media back then. As they clearly wrote. And, btw: No. If a 13 year old would watch rather graphic true crime videos, that wouldn't be credit for their intellect, but proof of their parents neglect, or simple unawareness. This content can be heavy on an adults mind, at 13 this could be harmful and definitely isn't appropriate content.
I am an indian and i think that misogyny and victim blaming played a HUGE part in why this case was left unsolved. People were always quick to point fingers at the little girl and accuse her of vile things just because of the police department's incompetence
Media sensationalisation is what started it all and the deep seated misogyny is what made many buy into that theory. Can always count on media to come up with weird theories to keep people glued to the screen.
The parts about the pathologist stating in the report there were no significant findings in the pelvic region, but they at trial saying that her parts were so dilated he could peer up into her cervix was so vile to me! For starters, that's not how va-jay-jays work! Even when you're giving birth you can't just peer up into it until the baby's head it coming out, and then all you can see is the head. And it just seemed almost like it was meant to be titilating in a really messed up way. And then the part where he said that Hemraj was for sure preparing to engage in intimacy when he died because his parts were enlarged after bloating inthe sun for two days...that's not how peeners work either! Then to say he wasn't basing it on medical experience but marriage experience. W.T.F? Did this guy get his medical degree from the place that Dr. Nick on The Simpsons did? That part, for me, was the grossest.
Well said, it's so true and deeply disheartening that the victims get violated not just by the police department but also by the media who love to write just rubbish and not having a heart or any thought about their implications on the true victims.
That’s what I can’t believe! I thought it was common knowledge not to touch a crime scene! Now they have all these fingerprints and other things contaminating the crime scene
Holy shit, everybody--and I mean EVERYBODY--failed Aarushi and Hemraj. The community, the police, the CBI, the media, the courts, even the goddamn lab technicians! Literally everybody had a hand in fucking up this case irrevocably. And because of them, a 13 year old girl and a father will never see justice. Just... infuriating and heartbreaking at the same time.
It’s almost suspicious how many things went wrong. Each individual that messed something up would have to have a secession of things to happen for such things to go wrong. For example why would such a high profile case be given to a new corner? And even if that was that case what’s the chances that a doctor doesn’t know to check the private area in a murder case and even if both of those things were true then wouldn’t there be assistances or other doctors or lab associates present that would ensure things like this didn’t happen? It’s just all very odd. The way the case had been passed around form hand to hand, the way they kept throwing out different wild stories when police usually say as little as possible to not hinder the case. Things are done in such a way so these kind of mistakes don’t happen and everything’s done for a reason so every time a case is botched so badly by several people it’s always suspicious.
I believe the actual target was Arushi. Hemraj simply got caught in the midst of it and had to be eliminated. The thrashed phone, wiped memory and deleted pictures kinda prove it. Shouldn't they have investigated the victim's school a bit more? Maybe interrogate her friends and teachers?
I think it's the opposite, Hemraj had received threatening calls prior to the incident. That's a huge red flag already. Its more likely Arushi witnesses something she shouldn't rather than Hemraj because c'mon, with her there's no motive, but there's more incidents that point to him.
Actually arushi being the target and hemraj being the target are equal possibilities. What the media did was so vile and literally drifted everyone away from the main point. It revolved so much around arushi and her household and hemraj that it literally forgot to explore the most obvious background. Like her parents being involved in extramarital affairs with their friends and the family being involved with powerful people. Arushi also seemed pretty extroverted. The murderer could have literally been anyone outside of the family and for the most non sexual/predatory reasons. It's so weird and uncanny how everyone went straight to the inappropriate route.
I am Indian and was 12 years old when this happened. I watched everything play out in real-time. The things which were said about Aarushi were disgusting, and it made me so angry. The sad thing was that many believed the disgusting things which were said, and she was used as a cautionary tale.
Don't feel bad about believing the news.... the fact that your opinions changed with new information proves you have no ill intent. My mom use to always tell me "believe NOTHING you hear and only half of what you see". She was 100% right
same! I remember everyone talking about this and they would always paint Aarushi in bad light, even the way the media handled this was so disgusting, everytime I would turn on the news they would be talking like she was perpetrator and everyone else was the victim in the situation , it always made me so angry.
She was Sexually active, her mother said so. Aarushi also had a boyfriend who she broke up with a few months before being murdered. This only happens because she found a better sex partner, For example Hemraj (Whose dong is much bigger than her peewee boyfriends). Girls aim bigger starting from young age and everyone knows it.
It makes me sick when people put any thought of blame on a child. A 13 year old child, especially in that culture, is a lot younger than these men presume. It’s a disgrace that fully grown men are not capable of understanding that they are talking about a little naive girl! Breaks my heart that men are unable to see children as children, just because they’re growing up, doesn’t stop them from being children
I agree with you 💯. Even though this case had me more than confused your right on point 🎯 with your comment and I just read a comment that she said rotten people are still watching her when she uses these cases for the clout and even lies so it's like your watching a horror film. So I asked her so you don't like rotten mango but no response yet. But I think she's reaching to far. I love her and think she's amazing. That girl has me thinking does she really lie to add more to her narrative and then says she adds her own stuff in to make it for the clout. I honestly don't think that at all. I think Stephanie is just an amazing story teller but lmk your thoughts 💭
In any culture it'd be insane to assume that about a 13 year old! When Stephanie started saying that the theory was Arushi caught the dad having an affair, what I thought she was going to say was that the theory was that the dad killed her to keep her from telling her mom. Which I was already a bit skeptical about. If your kid finds out something like that, you'd be more likely to intimidate, gaslight, and manipulate them into not saying anything than to think you have to kill them! I actually yalled outloud "WHAT?!" when she said the police theorized that she started sleeping with the family's 45 year old employee to get revenge on her dad for having an affair! That is nuts!
They heard the dad was having an affair, and the very next thought that occurred in the minds of the police was, "The 13 year old daughter was sleeping with the housekeeper." Make it make sense.
That made me so ill to hear. Hemraj was like a father figure to her. My housekeeper was like my second mother. This is too close to home for me. I used to live not far from Noida.
it's like the plot of a porno. its nothing anyone but a perverted adult man would think of. a 13 year old girl would write an anonymous note or start acting out.
It's so crazy that the argument with the mom's nightgown is "Would you not hold your child and get blood on you?" because when it came to Jon Benet's father picking her up & carrying her upstairs everyone said that was "suspicious" and called him guilty & accused him of covering up the scene because he contaminated DNA. Like it really just goes to show you that people's reactions to situations really don't matter all that much and everyone reacts differently.
He’ll even I know for a fact I wouldn’t touch shit knowing that I want people to find out who really did this and have little to no tampering I’d probably inconsoilable
The deleted pictures on that digital camera can likely be recovered. "Deleted" doesn't mean that the data from those pictures are gone, only that the space where they are on the camera's storage card is now flagged as "empty"
I'm a forensic student from Canada and we had a cold case class and we had chosen this case to investigate and attempt to solve it. But unfortunately because of the incompetence of the police and all the forensic evidence being contaminated and so much disparity between court reports and medical examiner report that it was deemed unsolved by us. There's so much lies involved in this case and I just hope that the victim is resting peacefully and the offender gets their karma.
I've been studying this case from day one. I'm just an arm chair investigator but I did fly to India to see the house and speak to locals... that family had some dark shit going on.... regardless I'd LOVE to see what you and your class did pertaining to this case. Its fascinating to me. I wanted to be a forensic psychologist but i had to drop out of college due to my mother's illness. Well I say "had" but i chose to amd have no regrets. I got to spend that time with my mom before she passed and I wouldn't have it any other way. Have you since graduated or still studying?
Theres a sickening mentality in India where if a woman is found dead, but found sexually active/possibly raped then no matter what, the public will be against her. This is still happening, with a case as recent as last year where a woman, Shraddha Walkar was brutally murdered by her boyfriend, with body parts stored in the refrigerator. Her boyfriend showing no remorse, but oh! because she fought with her parents and moved in with him, that obviously means she got what she deserved ? Seriously effd up people in this country. Edit: Let's not turn this into a culture war, people.
In this case it’s only the media and the police believing a child victim is guilty not the actual people. The actual people even protested against Hemraj and Ashishs mistreatment. It’s very likely that’s the case for most cases like the one you described but us on the outside will only see what the media write.
Aarushi came to my school once for a competition I believe. I saw her photograph on the internet, and as a way to pay her a tribute me and my friends tied a ribbon to that exact same place where she was standing. Everytime I am reminded of the case I can't help but think about how cruel this world really is. 2 souls gone too early. 🌺RIP
The misoginy was quite strong in this case. Accusing the victim of promiscuity from barely any evidence, accusing the mom of murder for not acting like a typical emotional woman.
It boggles me how the phone being thrown away and wiped off data is barely mentioned by anyone. you would think that it meant something in there was valuable for the investigation, perhaps texts or pictures, but the investigators didn't even seem to try and make it part of the case it self. this whole mishandling of the case is so frustrating, my heart goes out to both victims and the people affected by their loss...
@youknowwhat9911 I don't know. I think two hypothesis might be quite possible but there are facts that don't fit either of them entirely. If it was about some outsiders killing Hemraj, and even if Aarushi became collateral in some manner, why steal her phone and clean it? Why put dolls around her body? Why leave Hemraj's body on the roof terrace? If it was the parents killing Aarushi and Hemraj for whatever reason, the whiskey bottle lacking prints but having blood makes no sense, the leaving Hemraj's phone on, the not dumping Hemraj between the day Aarushi was found and him being found... And if it was somehow an Orient Express situation (if you know Agatha Christie), and two situations just coincided into this one confusing murder.... 😕 🤔 We will just never know.
I think that if the first time that they searched and collected evidence was done professionally and the entirety of the house was searched thoroughly,they might have been able to narrow down the potential killers and then work from here to find the motive.
@@queenofbeinghungryaf1025 yeah, the time I heard that neighbors were walking around the crime scene and cleaning it, I knew already this case is not going to be solved
The way they portrayed a 13 year old girl is absolutely ridiculous . Especially a girl who’s home and can’t even defend herself . The police really dropped the ball on this one .
Not only tons of sexism in how this case was framed by the media, but also classism as well. Of course the live-in servant is treated like either a criminal or an afterthought.
I studied about this case almost an year ago. And if i remember correctly, the retired officer was actually asked to come over by Aarushi's uncle as they knew each other. Also a bloody handprint was discovered on the terrace but no action was taken to know who's handprint that is and when it was finally investigated it has been out for too long and was no longer traceable.
This case shook the whole country. Imagine media portraying a 13 year old to have an affair with a person who saw her as his daughter. Hemraj was nothing but a pawn in this whole murder. Due to lack of inspection from police led this case to be unsolved. Till this date we know that it might be the parents who were the murderers yet they’re free. Even the movie industry tried to save the reputation of the parents. Regardless I pray both their souls rest in peace!
So true!! I remember watching this case on TV in real time and just feeling so angry!! And to this day it's still so confusing and just leaves a very unsettling feeling... I really wished the criminals in this case whoever they might be were brought to justice.... But then again I'm reminded of how terribly and shamefully the investigation and handling of this case was done.
That seems totally logical though? Their daughter is murdered in her bed, the house has no sign of a break-in and their trusted live-in help is missing. Of course they would think it was him. Then they find him and he's another victim. They could have felt like they had been trashing the guy unjustly and tried to make up for it. As well as focus the public attention on catching the murde.
The part I found the most sus was mom telling the cleaner that their servant locked his employers in, and they cannot open the door until he comes back from this short errand to go get something outside. But she's apparently unconcerned about that, because that is a normal thing? Sounds to me like they went to a lot of trouble to locked themselves inside in order to establish that Hemraj must be outside because they couldn't have locked the outside lock from inside. _Oh, he's just out to get some breakfast a a box of fags for Rajesh. He'll be back very soon._ And when he doesn't come back, _he must have fled after murdering Aarushi._
The murderer got away with it the minute all the people were let in, and the crime scene was compromised. The final judge did the right thing, there wasn't enough evidence to convict anyone. It's better that a criminal goes free, than an innocent person gets locked up. It would be a travesty of injustice to just throw anybody in jail to satisfy a crowd that is thirsty for justice. It's good to want justice, but if there's not enough evidence, sometimes you have to let go of justice, to ensure it.
I fully agree. While I think that one of the parents was responsible, there's always the chance that it was someone else. Imagine losing your kid horrifically, only to be condemned to a lifetime of judgement and imprisonment. Inflicting that sort of pain is a crime in itself.
Is it just me.. or the way that the mother threw the keys out from the balcony without crying or anything and the moment the housekeeper came in they all started banging their heads on the wall and crying.That's so suspicious and they even didn't wake up with the sound of their daughter being killed while i wake up with dogs barking outside totall bs honestly
Definitely like did they not see the body before this? So many questions also why didn’t they call the police sooner and have people over to their house is wild
Everything is suspicious if you want to villianise the parents. If the details of Arushi’s dinner were made public then we’d be saying ‘Ooh this was definitely meant to be her last meal.’ 🤷🏻♀️
The mother was woken by the maid. Usually Hemraj gets the door for Bharti so she never had to do it herself. She attends the lady who woke her up and then once that’s taken care of, goes to check on her child. What’s suspicious about that?
that‘s not weird? she was woken up by them, threw out the key and probably checked on her daughter after she threw out the key? i dont understand jow that‘s weird tbh
I was shocked when Stephanie first explained the theory that Late Aarushi was having an "affair" with a grown man at 13, however I just felt disgusted that I've been waiting for over an hour and 10 minutes and that theory was still NOT dropped.
Is it possible that the liquid near her pelvis is pee or did they test to see if it’s water? She may have been terrified that she woke up to being murdered or just the fact that muscles loosen after death and many people holding their bladder all night.
If I was the judge, I would imprison the police that was the first to investigate the scene. Because of their horribly poorly done job, there is a clear lack of evidence in this case and also the reputation of poor victims was destroyed, not even backed up by anything. Thus, the story should become a cautionary tale for the police and prosecutors, so that this never repeats again.
I believe you also missed a very important part of finding Hemraj's body. It was bad enough that the police lost a bunch of evidence since the body already decomposed so much but they never even got proper forensic data from the terrace. The forensic team did not arrive to collect data on the same day that Hemraj was found, the very next day it rained! So likely a majority of the forensic evidence had been washed away by the time the police finally called for forensics on the terrace a couple days later.
Wow this one really… made me take a step back. It’s been a couple of minutes since the episode ended and I’m still so uneasy and disturbed. My heart breaks for the young girl and a man who will never see justice. The way there were baseless and cruel rumors spread about them, and the fact that the murderer did not serve their sentence is truly disgusting
So my name is Aarushi and we all do that thing where we look up our names. That's how I discovered this case. The case of Aarushi Talwar gives me chills to this day and I have done plenty of research on it. I have not seen the episode yet so I look forward to hearing how Stephanie tells her story. RIP Aarushi and everyone who tragically lost their lives in this case
In Australia there was a serial killer targeting old ladies. At most of the crime scenes the old people who found the bodies had cleaned up all the blood by the time police got there! I guess they didn't know about DNA or thought the ladies had just fallen and thought it was disrespectful to leave blood there ?
My sister died in a car accident back in 87 and my mom didn't cry not because she didn't love my sister and not because she wasn't hurting but that's always how my mom has been. At that time she had lost her first husband, both parents, her sister when they were kids and 2 children. Even when my dad was in life support the only time I seen her cry was after we took him off life support and that was because she had promised him he would go home and she felt like she let him down. She has always felt like she needed to be strong for the rest of us so if she cried she never let us see her.
Not abnormal. Not everyone immediately starts crying when they learn of a death, and there's a lot of reasons why. Sometimes it doesn't sink in right away because it just doesn't feel real. Like your brain can't process that this person is actually dead. Sometimes you go numb. Sometimes your instinct is to stay strong for others. Sometimes, if it's a death you knew was coming, you're just kind of already at the acceptance stage. I didn't cry when my grandmother died and think this is why. She had late stage cancer, so we knew it was going happen. Bottom line, though, everyone reacts differently.
When my grandparents died my father told us not to cry during the funeral because they would’ve hated it. So we were all dry eyed. Some people probably thought we were heartless and cold when we were only respecting the memory of our grandparents. 🤷🏻♀️
@@ritaisakyan4911 No, no. It's completely fine to generalise the largeest movie industry by volume and perpetuating a stereotype. It's all good. Which ones have you watched, may I ask?
At the end of the day the police community botched this investigation. Rule one of investigating cases is that you let the evidence lead you to the answer. These detectives/ police officers already had the answer in their heads and tried to find evidence to fit their narrative.
The only theory that fits the facts is that the dad SA'd the daughter and was caught by the live-in assisstant. Mom knew it had been happening, hence the detachment. Explains why the cremation, and they likely bought off the medical examiner. Explains the attempt to wash their daughter. They probably killed her to keep quiet about the murder of the assisstant.
thats still just a theory but its the one that makes the most sense, &it feels like authorities + the media kept coming up with way more outlandish unreasonable theories just to avoid implicating the father in any way (for social + sexist reasons i have to assume). statistically speaking, most s/ual violence against kids is committed by immediate family
That's the exact same theory I was thinking. With all the evidence being destroyed or tampered with, the biggest indicator is the father talking about the assistant in the past tense. And you are so right about the mother's behavior being the result of the fathers abuse. Idk some people can become "emotionless" empty husks after exposure to abuse for periods of time.
Well, it is Hindu custom. I believe that was one of the top arguments. They do try to cremate the bodies within 24-48 hours. The house is cleaned by relatives. And they also help clean and dress the bodies of the lost family members too. It doesn’t have to be the reason. But it is a custom.
I clicked on the video so fast. I am from India and I remember this case shook the whole country, the investigation went on for soooo long that people became so frustrated and angry. I remember I was actually around the age of Arushi when she was so brutally murdered and I remember my parents being so invested in this case and kind of disgusted by the headlines in the media.
This case has shades of the Murdaugh case with all of the friends, neighbors and family members traipsing through the crime scene destroying evidence and shady police officers not doing their jobs properly. My husband’s family is from India and I have heard of this case. Thank you so much for covering this case. Rest in peace sweet Arushi. This poor girls character was assassinated after she was horrifically murdered. It’s absolutely disgusting.
i can't believe i forgot abt this case! the murdaugh's definitely were like a hierarchy in sc law, but it seemed a lot more cohesive & clear than the talwar case. this case has my head spinning! 😵💫
I won't lie when I heard this one as a podcast the mental image of the house went completely over my head because I'm austistic but the visual helped SOOOOO MUCH. thank you for doing both for this!
So... is this a common trait in neurodivergents? I'm glad I'm not the only one. I know people who have vivid pictures of the scenes and the characters in their heads as they read novels. I can never 😂 I'd only know what they are supposed to look like if they are ever get made into a movie.
@@AutumnBBBE yup it's very common! I don't have issues when reading actually visualizing it but listening with no captions I just can't grasp the visual the same 😅
@@xAngelxHazex Ah, great to know that! Thank you for sharing 😊 It always feels nice learning sth new. Have just known it's a common trait and that people can just have a difficulty with one and not both (listening vs reading). I have problems with both 😆 However, in terms of data processing, I do a lot better with captions on! I always turn on caption even though I'm not hard of hearing. Otherwise, I'd be too distracted by my own thoughts and zone out. My brain would then not register and process what I am hearing. Everything becomes just a meaningless background noise, not words. So many times I wish there is a caption toggle irl because then I would not have to spend so much energy trying to concentrate on listening and following through, especially after a long day 🙃 There are still a lot of things I've yet to discover if it's just me or it's a being on the spectrum thing, being surrounded by neurotypicals and not knowing any neurodivergents personally irl and all 😅
Here, in India, it is strongly believed that the case was influenced by many people. Especially by those who were in favor of the Talwar family. Also idk if it is true but there is a speculation that the one of the IPS/IAS involved in this case was a relative of the family and was constantly trying to push the blame on the other 3 people especially the other victim Hemraj. But yes to this day it remains a mystery who did it, why they did it. It is just disgusting to know how in out country victim blaming is sold to increase the ratings of news channels. Had been the investigation done properly, just maybe the victims would have got the justice they needed.
this kind of cases make me want to have the ultimate knowledge or become a ghost just looking in the past or sth im so curious about what exactly happened
The dad saying her death time was 2am and the wifi activity being on at 2am??? When they’re supposedly “asleep”. Plus I wonder what Hemraj wanted to tell the social worker. Also in the video with the mom when they asked her what she wanted people to remember in her daugther’s memory she talks about how her life has changed and getting justice for her family she doesn’t speak specifically about her child. Odd. Seems like the parents do care about their reputation a lot more than their child.
@@farimb2380 Or, hear me out: Hemraj unwittingly brought a killer into the house. Despite Rotten Mango stating that Hemraj was 45, he was also widely reported to be in his 50s. It’s common to remote villagers to not know exactly when they were born. He worked in another Delhi household before but decided he was getting too old to be a servant and retired. Then he came back from Nepal asking around for work again because he suddenly needed money. Despite this, his family back home weren’t being sent his wages. That night, Hemraj got a 6 minute phone call from a pay phone within 1 km of the house. He served himself dinner that night but didn’t eat it. Afterwards, they found alcohol and extra glasses in his room, but Hemraj was a teetotaller for years. There was also a bloody footprint too big to be Rajesh’s on the terrace, and unidentifiable prints on the scotch bottle. Hemraj was found with facial hair in his teeth and he was murdered with a khukri, a Nepalese knife. He’d also said that he feared for his life and for his *family* before he died. The Talwars or any Indian family wouldn’t have been able to threaten a remote village family across the border. In my opinion, I think Hemraj unfortunately got into some trouble and tried to talk it out that night, but things ended violently. Aarushi must’ve been collateral damage, she probably saw the killer at some point. If he was known to her, she wouldn’t have raised an alarm. So that’s my theory. Thanks for reading, I wrote too much.
With all the crazy/baseless accusations by the police, i don't think we will know for sure whether it was just another twisted storyline the police made up
Hey! I am from India. And I was in school when this happened, and it shook the nation. The defamation of a 13 year old and the way media portrayed it was crazy. As a kid it was hard to understand what was going on but, later on when I rewatched all of it things became more clearer. I still think about her, she was just an ordinary girl like anyone and had plans about the future, excited for her board exams to finish. I have seen multiple documentaries and coverage on this case but Stephanie always brings something new and does full justice to the victims and research, love ya ❤️❤️
Hemraj is remembered as a criminal more than a victim. All because no killer has been arrested. Such a shame. People are illiterate to the point where they don't understand the meaning of 'innocent until proven guilty'. They dumped everything on the deceased because it was convenient for them rather than running around and making efforts to solve this mystery. Hemraj was someone's husband, someone's son, someone's father and much more. He deserves apology
Quick question.. how did the father hear the original commotion that made him come out of the bedroom, if the air conditioner made so much noise that he couldn't hear his daughter scream?? That's one contradiction in the story that to me proves the father is telling at least a half a lie somewhere along the lines
I'm obsessed with you guys. Thank you so much for bringing light to these cases. You're incredible at retelling these stories and I can't tell you how grateful your audience is for how respectful and thorough you are. We love you!
Hi, I'm from india. this case still remains one of the most famous unsolved cases of india. there is also a movie made on this case 'talvar' which tbh tried to portray the parents as complete saints. i mean idk if the parents did it or not but surely they knew something, there are literally so many loopholes in the stories and honestly the police really showed negligence during the first 24 hours, by the time they actually started investigating seriously all the evidences were gone or tampered with. but i honestly feel bad mostly about how arushi even after death was character assasinated and dragged through mud just because the media wanted a spicy story. i'm really glad stephanie that you decided to cover it, you didn't leave out a single detail otherwise this case is really hard to get in detail. its all over the place.
Even if I’ve heard of the case before, the way that Stephanie tells it it’s like a whole new case with so much detail and information. Thank you to you snd your team for all the hard work and amazing content as usual💕
I too have listened to her story after already seeing and hearing the case before. She just tells it more thoroughly even if I watched the whole interrogation myself which I had twice before.
I remember this story a while back. It was always so weird how her parents quickly cremated her and destroyed all evidence or didn't care much for getting justice for her daughter murder. I really think the father was abusing his daughter and the worker caught him and he murdered both of them and just had the story twisted and destroyed the evidence. The mom was forced to stay quiet from the father or else she would be next.
Well, they were Hindus and generally in some areas, they do cremate the body soon after. They don’t really leave it or wait for long. Atleast I believe it was one of the counter arguments against this cremation argument.
Idk but generally South asian cremated dead as soon as possible for religious reason.. The later you do the funeral the more the soul suffer... In Hinduism and lslam it said to do the crematory or burial soon after the date.. Some even suggest to do it in the same day they passed... So the soul can rest in peace... Even in religion cutting through body after death is really disrespectful for the dead it is painful for the soul too... So most of the time even though there was a crime committed family Doesn't want to do autopsy... It's all religious reason.. So i Don't think It's a big deal that they cremated soo fast... Most avarage india would do that... It's the culture after all... And yeah they Didn't touch her daughter is must be the reason of Their medical background... Even of i saw someone loved laying in a pool of blood i might call someone rather touching them... It would make me go crazy and scared to even touch... It's just a instinct.. Even though i have no relation with medical but still it would bey first instinct... The whole investigation is flowed with no evidance rather making the Parents a scape goat to hide the misconducting of the investigation...
I mean that doesn't seem one hundred percent fair, the mother in the interview in May 2008 was asking someone, anyone to find the killer of her child even when he lawyers told her not to. It's also quite common to cremate fast in some parts of india, even with murder victims. As recent as last year in Patiala the police barely managed to stop a murder victims cremation from going forward when they realized her husband killed her. All I want is for this not to be another Lindy Chamberlain where just because the mother was bad with emotions the public hated her. Most people only know Lindy to this day as the "the dingo ate my baby" woman, and the sad thing was it was true. I just don't think we have enough proof one way or the other to actually convict anyone. I do think the parents are very likely but I wouldn't swear on it.
I’ve listened to this case so many times from so many real crime channels but Steph! The way you shone some light on HemRaj’s life and how he was a victim too and Arushi’s character… hands down no one would have done it the way you and your team looked at it. This is why listening to you makes me a wiser and more literate person and also the amount of survival knowledge you put it out there.. you are a life changer! Thank you so much Rotten Mango team!!!
26:30 I’m a 21 year old virgin but I used to joke like that with my friends too when I was in middle school and highschool… it’s so weird of them to call a 13 year old a “temptress” for joking about sexual thing with her teen friends
The issue is that there are too many people that are trying to insert themselves in this incident. From AJ, to the social worker, to the CBA that wanted to go "for a walk", to the retired detective, to the relatives that came to "clean the house". There's just too many people that try to play the hero. We don't need a hero. We need the truth.
I was a teenager when this happened and I hated how police had been treating the dead, absolutely disgraceful, putting random theories on the deap people. I’m glad the police has gotten better now. Not great, but better.
Sometimes it's obvious when you see a body that it's way too late to resuscitate. As she was killed the night before, I imagine she was stiff when they found her, and depending on the head trauma, it might have been obvious she was gone the moment they saw her.
@drameow3593 Yes, I was kind of disappointed in Stephanie for not going into this since I would assume that most of her audience is Western (as she's an American and this is an English language channel). Cremation, not burial, is very much the norm in India, so having child who died cremated would not be at all unusual.
Not trying to defend the parents but they're medical professionals (dentists). So there's a good chance they have a tolerance to trauma. Most medical professionals will go back to work even after the death of a loved one. Cleaning up the mattress might have been a way for them to cope with Arushi's loss.
@@mikrokosmosis_Yeah, I don’t know if there is normal for dentists everywhere but in the very first year of dental school here (at age 17/18) they saw open (as in with a machine saw) cadaver’s heads and things. When you learn and work in a government hospital you see a lot of gore. Plus we don’t have a lot of confidence in our police or justice system. I wouldn’t be surprised if they cleaned the mattress because they were thinking, she’s gone, it’s over, nobody can help us, we need to learn to live like this now.
Arushi Talwar Double Murder Case is one of the most twisted and mind boggling murder case Indian criminal authorities has to ever deal with. Thiers no denyjng UP Police had no inclination in giving justice to this poor girl.
There was this crazy case in Russia 4 years ago, then the mother closed her 3 children in the house for 11 years. She didn’t allow them to go out of the house, go to school, sleep before she went to sleep herself (and she could stay up all night). They were eating just bread and tea and having sandwiches once per week, and the oldest daughter referred to this like a feast in her recent interview. Literally, their dog were fed better than these children. They were forbidden to shower (washed themselves just once per 3-6 months), forbidden to brush their hair, forced to wear dirty clothes. Oldest daughter’s name is Darin and she’s laughing in her interview talking about how her mother were beating her up with a leash with an iron carabiner until she would have open wounds in her head or hitting her knees saying that she wants her daughter stop walking so she would stay with her forever. One day, when the girl went out of the house, her mother saw it on the cameras, beat her, doused her with engine oil, and forced her to sleep on the floor in the hallway. Younger son has a hump on his back, he had awful back pains, but mother didn’t want to treat him, she told to her daughter that she wants him to be a cripple so he wouldn’t get away from her. Oldest sister was the most abused one, but then her brother tried to help her once, their mother threatened him with a folding sickle holding it near his neck and then started to hit his back with its handle (again he has back problems and were in extremely pain constantly). Later on, she started to beat up her youngest daughter. Once she pushed her down the stairs. The oldest daughter escaped in her 20 and took her sibling with her, and their mother killed herself and lit the house on fire.
What the hell. Russia has some really gruesome cases. The one that I remember is of a man who tied his pregnant girlfriend/wife in the balcony even though it was freezing cold and was streaming it live. He even beat her until she died. I don't know if it's true but evidently the guy didn't get any punishment because there's no law against domestic violence in Russia.
I live in noida,UP ..she was one the girls from prestigious, well known school here..its just so sickening to hear about these cases in our own city..noida has also one more famous case of nithari murders, please cover about this one.. anytime in future .
Not only was the crime scene compromised, but the people who handled the case were INCOMPETENT. This case was mishandled so bad, no wonder it's unsolved and the poor victims never got any justice
Just one clarification that is the pillow cover with Hemraj's blood was mostly recovered from Krishna's house but it was mislabeled which caused it to get lost. Plus they also suspected krishna at some point because he is also a dental assistant so from a medical background and could also have made the clean cuts. Also like it seems like most of people always think that Arushi was the target and hemraj was the collateral damage however it could have been vice-vesa which Noone even cared to investigate.Thus case is just so disturbing because somewhere someone who knows the truth of what happened that night and is still roaming free. RIP to Arushi and Hemraj
Hiiii stephanieeee, I think you should do an episode on the Hawe Family Murders, It was a case where a man wanted to take his own life but decided to take his wife and two sons along with him. It happened a couple of years ago and he actually used to live 10 minutes away from where I lived and I even met him once! It's a really complex case!! Its not a really known case at all!
I’m sorry but I just couldn’t finish this video. The more I watched it the more mad I got. So you’re telling me grown ass men really believed this 13 year old did this to herself? And then people were cleaning the crime scene while there is a murdered 13 year old in the bed room??? Absolutely insane.
I recently came across this channel. You have a very captivating, unique way of telling these stories and shed light on the victims personalities and what they endured. It's almost like listening to an actual audiobook about a crime.
This case baffles me to this day, as I remember there being an uproar in the entire country when it happened, so many years have passed and nothing has happened, but as much as I have followed, I am very much inclined towards the parents doing it, probability of an unknown person coming to their house, killing two people, covering Aarushi with a blanket, and leaving casually, all the while parents sleeping in the nearby room doesn’t seems an acceptable theory to believe, something is fishy to say the least.
I can’t see any reason for the parents to kill Arushi and Hemraj. Personally I’m more inclined to the theory that Hemraj invited someone into the house, kept him in his room overnight, and that person killed Hemraj in a fight, then Arushi as an accident: maybe she saw him? The reason I believe this is because Hemraj came out of retirement to work for the Talwars and he wasn’t sending money home though he was being paid on time. Seems like he had some troubles. Plus the extra bottles/glasses in his room and the phone.
@@MusMasi His exact age wasn’t known. It was widely reported to be somewhere in the 50s. Avirook Sen, the author of Aarushi, tracked down Hemraj’s previous employers and found out that Hemraj left them after ten years of service saying he was too old to work.
I think the father raped his daughter and Hemraj saw so the father killed them both on the spot in fear and dragged Hemraj to the terrace . When her body was first discovered the dad was frantic to make sure the initial police did not check the terrace so he clearly knew what was up there and why there was a trail of blood connecting on the wall to the terrace. The daughter also probably had evidence of her parents being trash on her phone and thats why it was wiped. Mother was likely complacent to father’s abuse and the mom and dad mightve tried to sit Hemraj down in his room to talk him down from saying anything at first (since there were three indents on Hemraj’s bed which the retired police alleges/claims means there were three adults at play) but then they just decided its better to leave him dead so the father maybe slit his throat which caused the blood to splatter and they tried to clean it but missed the blood on the fingerprint-less liquor bottle??? It would also explain why both the mother and father were very quick and uncompromising on getting her body cremated before a proper autopsy could be done. Aarushis mom and dad also ALLOWED all the family and neighbors in to clean and touch everything before the police even came so seems like the parents purposefully wanted evidence as hard to collect as possible. This is just me taking guesses of course. I dont think any of the neighbors or workers did anything to the daughter. Because why would the neighbors dental friends give their worker an alibi for where he was that night if he (their worker) 1. Was besties with Krishna who accused the wife of the dental friend being in an affair with Aarushi’d dad 2. If he actually did it and their was some sort of evidence to attest to it which would also help clear his wife’s possible infidelity?? Idk again im just guessing but this is what i think. I havent finished the video yet, im only at 53 minutes but this sounds like what is happening to me. Everybody is lying to protect Aarushi’s mom and dad and yet they are the two getting questioned the least? Its odd.
I'm just listening while at work. The mother during the interview sounds like she's doing her best to stay calm while taking. I do hear emotion in her tone, especially how she gets quieter at the end of the sentence.
She said to the cleaning lady that the housekeeper went to buy milk so to come back.. she insisted on coming in and this is the scene she walked into...the mother didn't act like anything was wrong ..she wanted her to go away until they decide what to do with their daughter's body..why would he be engaged in anything with their 13yr when he had called a social worker and his wife in Nepal that he feared for his life..MAKES NO SENSE!
Actually the maid had to ring the doorbell 3 times until someone answered as Hemraj (the house keeper) would always wake up early to allow the maid inside, but since Hemraj was (unknown at the time) dead, the parents were woken up, (it’s also stated in the case both parents wake up in the afternoon and was confirmed by the maid and previous house keepers). The mother had barley woken up and weren’t sure why Hemraj wasn’t home and assumed he had left to get milk or something and asked the maid to wait but the maid was already running late on time and asked her to throw the keys which the mother did, and then after they left their bedroom and noticed the body.
A few details missed. 1 Aarushi was born through IVF. 2 there was actually a full blood soaked handprint found on the balcony. I don't remember what they did bout it. 3 idk really know if it's that useful. But hemraj couldn't open his rooms door that lead to the very first metal door. Because yk like there is one corner in you room where you just throw all the stuff, especially when you don't have alot of space to keep your stuff. So hemraj just threw all his stuff in front of the door. So it was blocked. But i guess he could move the stuff.
They tried to test the DNA and fingerprints, The DNA matched to hemraj's blood and also maybe those fingerprints matched to some suspect (talking about the handprint)
NO WAYYYYY YOU COVERED THIS CASE!!!!!!! I was so into it and wanted so badly for someone to authentically cover it, and you did. I mean, as soon as I read the thumbnail, I couldn't help but write this comment down. Thanks sooo muchhh! absolutely love your videos!
@@sandpiperr Stop denying it. Admit the teen was of a very loose character. She was Sexually active and she even had a boyfriend who she broke up with a few months before the murder. Why do you think she broke up with her boyfriend? Hint Hint: the Cooks dong was bigger.
You're so disgusting, She was murdered!! She was an Indian girl having a bf, not any white girl, You don't know how asian parenting is, you don't know the dating culture 13 year old has, they just would've hold hands, exchange chocolate 🍫@@Rexorazor
@@mikumikuareka Yeah from a comment on here apparently the autopsy man didn't even know how a woman's body parts looked like and had never done an autopsy on a woman before so he doesn't know how the parts are supposed to look like.
i genuinely feel this innocent angel’s death was not taken seriously at all. these people treated her case as if it was their playground. absolutely disgusting and upsetting. i hope she is resting peacefully despite all these adults acting so childish.
OMG Rotten Mango!!! This was/is such a HUGE case since forever in India. I would turn the TV off whenever there was news about this case and I refused to read about this because it was so distressing I’m watching this for the first time now because I trust your compassionate storytelling
1:33:24 This detail made me feel sick. Not just because of the horror Arushi went through but the continuation of the sloppy work of these 'professionals'. Every person who messed up the case should at least be fined including the press. Rest in peace sweet Arushi and Hemraj. 🕯️🕯️
Finally you are covering this. I was 12 when this happened. This one really baffled the whole nation. I remember I used to read newspapers everyday and would discuss every small detail with my friends wondering why the police can't just solve it.
The way the two victims were treated is utterly heartbreaking. It’s crucial that such cases receive the extensive media coverage they deserve, until concrete actions, including the filing of charges and convictions are obtained.
Thank you so much for listening to my request and covering this case! I had commented under your video of the Seongsu Bridge tragedy and you actually covered this case!! Thank you❤ This was a very tragic case and I was really shocked after first hearing this case long back. It's still haunting and so strange that it's unsolved still.
For me it's clear that the parents have something to do with the crime. Why would they call friends and family instead of the police? Why were they that desperate to clean the house? And why were they in a hurry to cremate the body? It's at least weird.
Well, it is Hindu custom. I believe that was one of the top arguments. We do try to cremate the bodies within 24-48 hours. The house is cleaned by relatives. And they also help clean and dress the bodies of the lost family members too. It doesn’t have to be the reason. But it is a custom.
I am from india, and really we are the worst when it come to preservation of crime scene everyone wanna be play CID(its a crime show). So yeah . Also this case was a wake up. Hated the parents thought completely hated them. They had hands in mudding their own 13 years of daughter name and character, later playing the victim card. All. It was sad for aarushi.
Thank you Stephanie for covering this case. I'm from India and I can tell you, to this day people talk about this case. There have also been lots of movies made on this, the one that got popular is "TALVAR" which also means "sword" in english. And it looked soo fabricated my god, I still can't believe. My heart breaks for Aarushi, may she rest in peace.
My deduction is that the father was caught SAing his daughter by the house helper. He had to kill them both to cover everything up, and the mother is defending her husband both to protect the family name and so she wouldn't be alone to stand by her husband, so on so forth that what seems to be the case and they tried to sloppily cover it all up
My take on this case is the father killed both victims and the mother is helping to cover her husband's crime and to save face. I think Hemraj really cares for ahrushie and both became really close. Both victims may know secrets that can ruin the parents (such as Ahrushie being SA by the father) Hemraj may have been lured by the father and killed at the rooftop. Then knowing Ahrushie and Hemraj are close, they need to get rid of her as well. So much evil if this theory is true. May their soul rest in peace and may find justice someday.
Hi Stephanie! I think it would be interesting if you could talk about the Yoki case. A Brazilian case of a woman who killed and discarded her husband's body on a suitcase on the road. The case is really crazy, from the beginning of the relationship to the way it ended, and the fact that the husband was one of the heirs of one of the biggest food companies in Brazil. Sorry if made any mistakes, English is not my first language. Love from Brazil!
Anyone accusing a 13 year old child for having an "affair" is a sick creep, no exceptions, none.
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I can imagine an exception, like a 13 yo boy who caught his gf kissing other guy. But except for that, n o n e.
@@lisaelisa4772 I wouldn't call that an affair either, more like cheating, but overall: Yeah. If the boy-/girlfriend called it an affair, that would be the exception (the only one).
This case could’ve been solved EASILY if people did their jobs instead of making up fake conspiracies with no proof about the victims…SAD!
Or if people just was minding they own business and contaminating the crime scene like I’m clutching my pearls 😂
im very disgusted that people are still convicting the parents in their minds with so little evidence.
I am from India and this is a case that still boggles me to this day. The fact that there were SO. MANY. discrepancies by the Police Department and the other people overall seem so very sketchy. How did absolutely NO one notice Hemraj’s body on the rooftop??? Not even a neighbour noticed??? And the way media has framed this poor 13 year old girl for having an “affair” with someone who saw her as his own daughter… disgusting. May their souls rest in peace 🕊️
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@@Jasper_KNI agree with you 💯
There are a few details that they missed to tell in this case:
1. Hemraj had not sent his family any money in months. It was speculated that he took loan from someone, and that anonymous body was after him. Hence, he contacted the social worker.
2. The person who did the autopsy on the victim had NEVER done an autopsy on a woman before. He did not even know how the privates are supposed to look.
Oh it makes sense now!
how do you become a coroner without knowing the anatomy of a woman????? I mean we have an issue in the USA where most men don't know how women's anatomies work but the coroners know, you can't become a doctor without at least seeing a woman's anatomy. I'm sorry I know there are cultural differences but as a woman it makes me so angry that they don't have to know what a woman looks like we don't matter enough.
@@anitacrumblyas an Indian i don't think that is possible, i would say more so that, that doctor hasn't seen female private parts in real life....the samples in lab is mostly definitely not the same as real life but then again I am not sure cause then this case took place, i was just little over a year old so ... additionally it was 2008, things were not like now at all so ...
Lol as a medical student in India its absolutely impossible to not know human female anatomy before being an doctor who could do an autopsy. But definitely there can be someone not so educated about the samples to be taken. But such things happen only from newly employed doctor, and its highly unlikely that a newbie to be given a high profile case as murder without supervision of his/her seniors. Also if u may imagine its not just the doctor, but there are multiple trained personals present who would've pointed out the if the doctor was missing something.
@@anitacrumblyI agree with you, and I couldn’t have said it any better😒!
Another important detail that was not mentioned in this video is there was a handprint found on the terrace right beside the door the leads to terrace (this was as soon as they found Hemraj’s body), but the police did not take any sample from the handprint or try to preserve the handprint (which was shocking). The next day it rained and the handprint eventually faded away. The amount of police negligence in this case is insane.
What the fuck…..
It's like the US in the 1970s! Or more and more today.
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I might have missed it, but I heard nothing about a dna investigation on her body. If she was sa'd and that was a part of the motive for the crime, wouldn't it be very easy to find dna traces, which could be connected to any of the men involved in this crime. Simply proving that Hemraj did not sa her would already be a HUGE development in figuring out the situation and why Hemraj was also killed.
As an Indian, the most disgusting thing about witnessing this case as a 13 year old myself, was the false salaciousness around the narrative. The fact that the media had the audacity to dissect into most intimate thoughts of a developing teenager and could slut shame, a 13 year old is gross. We have no clue what happened, but even if she was found in compromising position, she was still a victim, incapable of consent. Media exploited every second of this tragedy. It is absolutely shameful.
Why are you watching stuff like this if you're 13???, this is mature content.
@@Nagvanshieus I was 13 when this case unfolded. These sensitive details were heavily publicized on every headline and every front cover of any daily mail. It was unavoidable, but more so, disgusting to process it back then.
i was a year younger than aarushi, and now as a 28 year old, it absolutely sickens me that people would think she would willingly sleep with ANYONE. it's beyond vile and the media wasn't criticised enough imo.
@@Nagvanshieus . Perhaps because she is a mature 13 year old, judging from her eloquent and articulated language? Plus, being aware of such atrocities and injustices at such a delicate age is a credit to her intelligence and perhaps her own loss of innocence that society would go so far to shame the victim so they can neatly wrap up the case.
@@0230Raveena OR, perhaps, because they where 13 AT THAT TIME and it was heavily covered in the media back then. As they clearly wrote.
And, btw: No. If a 13 year old would watch rather graphic true crime videos, that wouldn't be credit for their intellect, but proof of their parents neglect, or simple unawareness.
This content can be heavy on an adults mind, at 13 this could be harmful and definitely isn't appropriate content.
I am an indian and i think that misogyny and victim blaming played a HUGE part in why this case was left unsolved. People were always quick to point fingers at the little girl and accuse her of vile things just because of the police department's incompetence
Media sensationalisation is what started it all and the deep seated misogyny is what made many buy into that theory.
Can always count on media to come up with weird theories to keep people glued to the screen.
The parts about the pathologist stating in the report there were no significant findings in the pelvic region, but they at trial saying that her parts were so dilated he could peer up into her cervix was so vile to me!
For starters, that's not how va-jay-jays work! Even when you're giving birth you can't just peer up into it until the baby's head it coming out, and then all you can see is the head.
And it just seemed almost like it was meant to be titilating in a really messed up way.
And then the part where he said that Hemraj was for sure preparing to engage in intimacy when he died because his parts were enlarged after bloating inthe sun for two days...that's not how peeners work either!
Then to say he wasn't basing it on medical experience but marriage experience. W.T.F?
Did this guy get his medical degree from the place that Dr. Nick on The Simpsons did?
That part, for me, was the grossest.
You're so right actually a lot pf the evidence in this case was just discrimination
Not to mention that even if it were true, she was being taken advantage of and then murdered so she's basically a victim twice
Well said, it's so true and deeply disheartening that the victims get violated not just by the police department but also by the media who love to write just rubbish and not having a heart or any thought about their implications on the true victims.
I can’t wrap my head around why the friends/relatives of the family would clean the house after seeing a passed child
That’s what I can’t believe! I thought it was common knowledge not to touch a crime scene! Now they have all these fingerprints and other things contaminating the crime scene
that's just some next level dumbness or they were coerced into it.
usually to help them prepare for prayer meet etc
Part of the "cleanup" crew.
It's like when ppl prepare food after someone dies but they decided to clean up 😭
Holy shit, everybody--and I mean EVERYBODY--failed Aarushi and Hemraj. The community, the police, the CBI, the media, the courts, even the goddamn lab technicians! Literally everybody had a hand in fucking up this case irrevocably. And because of them, a 13 year old girl and a father will never see justice. Just... infuriating and heartbreaking at the same time.
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It’s almost suspicious how many things went wrong. Each individual that messed something up would have to have a secession of things to happen for such things to go wrong. For example why would such a high profile case be given to a new corner? And even if that was that case what’s the chances that a doctor doesn’t know to check the private area in a murder case and even if both of those things were true then wouldn’t there be assistances or other doctors or lab associates present that would ensure things like this didn’t happen? It’s just all very odd. The way the case had been passed around form hand to hand, the way they kept throwing out different wild stories when police usually say as little as possible to not hinder the case. Things are done in such a way so these kind of mistakes don’t happen and everything’s done for a reason so every time a case is botched so badly by several people it’s always suspicious.
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This. It's so devastating. That poor girl. That poor man.
I believe the actual target was Arushi. Hemraj simply got caught in the midst of it and had to be eliminated. The thrashed phone, wiped memory and deleted pictures kinda prove it. Shouldn't they have investigated the victim's school a bit more? Maybe interrogate her friends and teachers?
exactly my thoughts...Arushi's murder seems premeditated whereas Hemraj seems like a witness victim. There is definetly more to it..
yeah the phone being whiped sounds like she was talking to/about someone and that person didn't want anyone to see
I think it's the opposite, Hemraj had received threatening calls prior to the incident. That's a huge red flag already. Its more likely Arushi witnesses something she shouldn't rather than Hemraj because c'mon, with her there's no motive, but there's more incidents that point to him.
@@kedaver263 and possibly the person who was threatening him was someone close to them, and the girl had taken pictures or videos of them...
Actually arushi being the target and hemraj being the target are equal possibilities. What the media did was so vile and literally drifted everyone away from the main point. It revolved so much around arushi and her household and hemraj that it literally forgot to explore the most obvious background. Like her parents being involved in extramarital affairs with their friends and the family being involved with powerful people. Arushi also seemed pretty extroverted. The murderer could have literally been anyone outside of the family and for the most non sexual/predatory reasons. It's so weird and uncanny how everyone went straight to the inappropriate route.
I am Indian and was 12 years old when this happened. I watched everything play out in real-time. The things which were said about Aarushi were disgusting, and it made me so angry. The sad thing was that many believed the disgusting things which were said, and she was used as a cautionary tale.
Don't feel bad about believing the news.... the fact that your opinions changed with new information proves you have no ill intent. My mom use to always tell me "believe NOTHING you hear and only half of what you see". She was 100% right
same! I remember everyone talking about this and they would always paint Aarushi in bad light, even the way the media handled this was so disgusting, everytime I would turn on the news they would be talking like she was perpetrator and everyone else was the victim in the situation , it always made me so angry.
She was Sexually active, her mother said so.
Aarushi also had a boyfriend who she broke up with a few months before being murdered.
This only happens because she found a better sex partner, For example Hemraj (Whose dong is much bigger than her peewee boyfriends).
Girls aim bigger starting from young age and everyone knows it.
@OfficerZ637 It's obvious she has them.
All these Know it All saints have CP on their devices.
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Stop posting this crap all over every thread
It makes me sick when people put any thought of blame on a child. A 13 year old child, especially in that culture, is a lot younger than these men presume. It’s a disgrace that fully grown men are not capable of understanding that they are talking about a little naive girl! Breaks my heart that men are unable to see children as children, just because they’re growing up, doesn’t stop them from being children
It’s very telling of their inner thoughts, guilt, and shame 🙃 projection the entire time.
I agree with you 💯. Even though this case had me more than confused your right on point 🎯 with your comment and I just read a comment that she said rotten people are still watching her when she uses these cases for the clout and even lies so it's like your watching a horror film. So I asked her so you don't like rotten mango but no response yet. But I think she's reaching to far. I love her and think she's amazing. That girl has me thinking does she really lie to add more to her narrative and then says she adds her own stuff in to make it for the clout. I honestly don't think that at all. I think Stephanie is just an amazing story teller but lmk your thoughts 💭
In any culture it'd be insane to assume that about a 13 year old!
When Stephanie started saying that the theory was Arushi caught the dad having an affair, what I thought she was going to say was that the theory was that the dad killed her to keep her from telling her mom.
Which I was already a bit skeptical about. If your kid finds out something like that, you'd be more likely to intimidate, gaslight, and manipulate them into not saying anything than to think you have to kill them!
I actually yalled outloud "WHAT?!" when she said the police theorized that she started sleeping with the family's 45 year old employee to get revenge on her dad for having an affair!
That is nuts!
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They heard the dad was having an affair, and the very next thought that occurred in the minds of the police was, "The 13 year old daughter was sleeping with the housekeeper." Make it make sense.
It's just weird that the housekeeper took somebody else's job, somebody else also knew the house, the child.....
That made me so ill to hear. Hemraj was like a father figure to her. My housekeeper was like my second mother. This is too close to home for me. I used to live not far from Noida.
it's like the plot of a porno. its nothing anyone but a perverted adult man would think of. a 13 year old girl would write an anonymous note or start acting out.
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It's so crazy that the argument with the mom's nightgown is "Would you not hold your child and get blood on you?" because when it came to Jon Benet's father picking her up & carrying her upstairs everyone said that was "suspicious" and called him guilty & accused him of covering up the scene because he contaminated DNA. Like it really just goes to show you that people's reactions to situations really don't matter all that much and everyone reacts differently.
There is no “right” way to act in these situations.
@@alauracollis6520 Exactly!
He’ll even I know for a fact I wouldn’t touch shit knowing that I want people to find out who really did this and have little to no tampering I’d probably inconsoilable
Yea that's kinda interesting
The deleted pictures on that digital camera can likely be recovered. "Deleted" doesn't mean that the data from those pictures are gone, only that the space where they are on the camera's storage card is now flagged as "empty"
I'm a forensic student from Canada and we had a cold case class and we had chosen this case to investigate and attempt to solve it. But unfortunately because of the incompetence of the police and all the forensic evidence being contaminated and so much disparity between court reports and medical examiner report that it was deemed unsolved by us. There's so much lies involved in this case and I just hope that the victim is resting peacefully and the offender gets their karma.
I've been studying this case from day one. I'm just an arm chair investigator but I did fly to India to see the house and speak to locals... that family had some dark shit going on.... regardless I'd LOVE to see what you and your class did pertaining to this case. Its fascinating to me. I wanted to be a forensic psychologist but i had to drop out of college due to my mother's illness. Well I say "had" but i chose to amd have no regrets. I got to spend that time with my mom before she passed and I wouldn't have it any other way. Have you since graduated or still studying?
@@nomdeplume2213 fascinating
Well hey, feel good about the fact that there's at least there's a bunch of people TRYING to get to the bottom of this case!
I would like to have been a forensic investigator it's sooo interesting to me
@OfficerZ637whats your problem thats not smth to joke abt
Theres a sickening mentality in India where if a woman is found dead, but found sexually active/possibly raped then no matter what, the public will be against her. This is still happening, with a case as recent as last year where a woman, Shraddha Walkar was brutally murdered by her boyfriend, with body parts stored in the refrigerator. Her boyfriend showing no remorse, but oh! because she fought with her parents and moved in with him, that obviously means she got what she deserved ? Seriously effd up people in this country.
Edit: Let's not turn this into a culture war, people.
That's sick. How backwards. A 13yo isn't even a woman, though. This victim was a little girl.
In this case it’s only the media and the police believing a child victim is guilty not the actual people. The actual people even protested against Hemraj and Ashishs mistreatment. It’s very likely that’s the case for most cases like the one you described but us on the outside will only see what the media write.
I truly am ashamed to be a citizen of a country where such people live
You did not mention Sharda Walker's boyfriend name and his thoughts.!?
Citizens like you must change that perspective, the law. Citizens must unite.
It's sickening how the two victims were treated
I knoww they both deserve justice ❤❤❤ 🕊🕊
Aarushi came to my school once for a competition I believe. I saw her photograph on the internet, and as a way to pay her a tribute me and my friends tied a ribbon to that exact same place where she was standing. Everytime I am reminded of the case I can't help but think about how cruel this world really is. 2 souls gone too early. 🌺RIP
The misoginy was quite strong in this case. Accusing the victim of promiscuity from barely any evidence, accusing the mom of murder for not acting like a typical emotional woman.
India smh🙄
It boggles me how the phone being thrown away and wiped off data is barely mentioned by anyone. you would think that it meant something in there was valuable for the investigation, perhaps texts or pictures, but the investigators didn't even seem to try and make it part of the case it self. this whole mishandling of the case is so frustrating, my heart goes out to both victims and the people affected by their loss...
The answer to the case was definitely in there. It’s so sad.
Propably stolen by guests
@@hassanshahid5832 stolen, wiped then thrown away? Doubtful.
Or maybe who found the fone wiped it out for themselves but scared to tell maybe..
So... this story is making me think the perfect murder isn't flawless...but just so messy you can't nail anybody with 100% surety.
Honestly I think it’s the lack of a motive that makes these unsolvable murders
@@youknowwhat9911that and the lack of uncontaminated physical evidence
@youknowwhat9911 I don't know. I think two hypothesis might be quite possible but there are facts that don't fit either of them entirely.
If it was about some outsiders killing Hemraj, and even if Aarushi became collateral in some manner, why steal her phone and clean it? Why put dolls around her body? Why leave Hemraj's body on the roof terrace?
If it was the parents killing Aarushi and Hemraj for whatever reason, the whiskey bottle lacking prints but having blood makes no sense, the leaving Hemraj's phone on, the not dumping Hemraj between the day Aarushi was found and him being found...
And if it was somehow an Orient Express situation (if you know Agatha Christie), and two situations just coincided into this one confusing murder.... 😕 🤔
We will just never know.
I think that if the first time that they searched and collected evidence was done professionally and the entirety of the house was searched thoroughly,they might have been able to narrow down the potential killers and then work from here to find the motive.
@@queenofbeinghungryaf1025 yeah, the time I heard that neighbors were walking around the crime scene and cleaning it, I knew already this case is not going to be solved
The way they portrayed a 13 year old girl is absolutely ridiculous . Especially a girl who’s home and can’t even defend herself . The police really dropped the ball on this one .
Not only tons of sexism in how this case was framed by the media, but also classism as well. Of course the live-in servant is treated like either a criminal or an afterthought.
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I studied about this case almost an year ago. And if i remember correctly, the retired officer was actually asked to come over by Aarushi's uncle as they knew each other.
Also a bloody handprint was discovered on the terrace but no action was taken to know who's handprint that is and when it was finally investigated it has been out for too long and was no longer traceable.
This case shook the whole country. Imagine media portraying a 13 year old to have an affair with a person who saw her as his daughter. Hemraj was nothing but a pawn in this whole murder. Due to lack of inspection from police led this case to be unsolved.
Till this date we know that it might be the parents who were the murderers yet they’re free.
Even the movie industry tried to save the reputation of the parents.
Regardless I pray both their souls rest in peace!
So true!! I remember watching this case on TV in real time and just feeling so angry!! And to this day it's still so confusing and just leaves a very unsettling feeling... I really wished the criminals in this case whoever they might be were brought to justice.... But then again I'm reminded of how terribly and shamefully the investigation and handling of this case was done.
That seems totally logical though? Their daughter is murdered in her bed, the house has no sign of a break-in and their trusted live-in help is missing. Of course they would think it was him.
Then they find him and he's another victim. They could have felt like they had been trashing the guy unjustly and tried to make up for it. As well as focus the public attention on catching the murde.
@@cass7200 okay for that we can give them the benefit of doubt but rest what they’ve said is weird.
The part I found the most sus was mom telling the cleaner that their servant locked his employers in, and they cannot open the door until he comes back from this short errand to go get something outside. But she's apparently unconcerned about that, because that is a normal thing? Sounds to me like they went to a lot of trouble to locked themselves inside in order to establish that Hemraj must be outside because they couldn't have locked the outside lock from inside. _Oh, he's just out to get some breakfast a a box of fags for Rajesh. He'll be back very soon._ And when he doesn't come back, _he must have fled after murdering Aarushi._
It’s common for people to talk highly of the dead even if they hated each other prior. Especially if the man was discovered murdered. 🤷🏻♀️
The murderer got away with it the minute all the people were let in, and the crime scene was compromised.
The final judge did the right thing, there wasn't enough evidence to convict anyone. It's better that a criminal goes free, than an innocent person gets locked up.
It would be a travesty of injustice to just throw anybody in jail to satisfy a crowd that is thirsty for justice.
It's good to want justice, but if there's not enough evidence, sometimes you have to let go of justice, to ensure it.
I fully agree. While I think that one of the parents was responsible, there's always the chance that it was someone else. Imagine losing your kid horrifically, only to be condemned to a lifetime of judgement and imprisonment. Inflicting that sort of pain is a crime in itself.
The police really couldn't find the motive to base any of the theories presented
Is it just me.. or the way that the mother threw the keys out from the balcony without crying or anything and the moment the housekeeper came in they all started banging their heads on the wall and crying.That's so suspicious
and they even didn't wake up with the sound of their daughter being killed while i wake up with dogs barking outside totall bs honestly
Definitely like did they not see the body before this? So many questions also why didn’t they call the police sooner and have people over to their house is wild
Everything is suspicious if you want to villianise the parents. If the details of Arushi’s dinner were made public then we’d be saying ‘Ooh this was definitely meant to be her last meal.’ 🤷🏻♀️
The mother was woken by the maid. Usually Hemraj gets the door for Bharti so she never had to do it herself. She attends the lady who woke her up and then once that’s taken care of, goes to check on her child. What’s suspicious about that?
Exactly what I thought.. The parents did it ..is what the vibe is
that‘s not weird? she was woken up by them, threw out the key and probably checked on her daughter after she threw out the key? i dont understand jow that‘s weird tbh
I was shocked when Stephanie first explained the theory that Late Aarushi was having an "affair" with a grown man at 13, however I just felt disgusted that I've been waiting for over an hour and 10 minutes and that theory was still NOT dropped.
Is it possible that the liquid near her pelvis is pee or did they test to see if it’s water? She may have been terrified that she woke up to being murdered or just the fact that muscles loosen after death and many people holding their bladder all night.
Never thought about that. I wouldn't be surprised if they completely dropped the ball and didn't even think to test it
Surprisingly her trousers were not wet just mattress
If I was the judge, I would imprison the police that was the first to investigate the scene. Because of their horribly poorly done job, there is a clear lack of evidence in this case and also the reputation of poor victims was destroyed, not even backed up by anything. Thus, the story should become a cautionary tale for the police and prosecutors, so that this never repeats again.
I believe you also missed a very important part of finding Hemraj's body. It was bad enough that the police lost a bunch of evidence since the body already decomposed so much but they never even got proper forensic data from the terrace. The forensic team did not arrive to collect data on the same day that Hemraj was found, the very next day it rained! So likely a majority of the forensic evidence had been washed away by the time the police finally called for forensics on the terrace a couple days later.
Wow this one really… made me take a step back. It’s been a couple of minutes since the episode ended and I’m still so uneasy and disturbed. My heart breaks for the young girl and a man who will never see justice. The way there were baseless and cruel rumors spread about them, and the fact that the murderer did not serve their sentence is truly disgusting
we don't even have much idea about what happened to them so much evidence was lost and botched, we know how, but not who and why they were killed.
So my name is Aarushi and we all do that thing where we look up our names. That's how I discovered this case. The case of Aarushi Talwar gives me chills to this day and I have done plenty of research on it. I have not seen the episode yet so I look forward to hearing how Stephanie tells her story. RIP Aarushi and everyone who tragically lost their lives in this case
As an Indian, this is one of the most mind boggling and frustrating cases. Truly terrible how the victims were treated
Thinking about a bunch of people just walking around and CLEANING the house even before the police arrived stressed me out so much omg
In Australia there was a serial killer targeting old ladies. At most of the crime scenes the old people who found the bodies had cleaned up all the blood by the time police got there!
I guess they didn't know about DNA or thought the ladies had just fallen and thought it was disrespectful to leave blood there ?
Just them walking around and touching things is bad enough. But they actively cleaned a crime scene. How dumb can people be?
My sister died in a car accident back in 87 and my mom didn't cry not because she didn't love my sister and not because she wasn't hurting but that's always how my mom has been. At that time she had lost her first husband, both parents, her sister when they were kids and 2 children. Even when my dad was in life support the only time I seen her cry was after we took him off life support and that was because she had promised him he would go home and she felt like she let him down. She has always felt like she needed to be strong for the rest of us so if she cried she never let us see her.
Sometimes you're just in shock, and numb. Everyone isn't comfortable crying in front of other people.
Not abnormal. Not everyone immediately starts crying when they learn of a death, and there's a lot of reasons why.
Sometimes it doesn't sink in right away because it just doesn't feel real. Like your brain can't process that this person is actually dead.
Sometimes you go numb.
Sometimes your instinct is to stay strong for others.
Sometimes, if it's a death you knew was coming, you're just kind of already at the acceptance stage. I didn't cry when my grandmother died and think this is why. She had late stage cancer, so we knew it was going happen.
Bottom line, though, everyone reacts differently.
@@sandpiperryeah and maybe she cried earlier a lot so she was probably just numb and her eyes look exhausted
People just have a habit of villianizing anyone who doesn't fit their narrative
The media was being very misogynistic and really hindered justice.
When my grandparents died my father told us not to cry during the funeral because they would’ve hated it. So we were all dry eyed. Some people probably thought we were heartless and cold when we were only respecting the memory of our grandparents. 🤷🏻♀️
The prosecutors’ theory is like a crazy Bollywood movie plot. Extremely disappointing that the victims didn’t get justice
Agreed about the bad movie plot!
Have you watched any "bollywood" movies ?
@@HemantKumar-id3jgyes. I meant the bad ones with the unrealistic and exaggerated plot, of course there’re many really good movies
@@ritaisakyan4911 No, no. It's completely fine to generalise the largeest movie industry by volume and perpetuating a stereotype. It's all good.
Which ones have you watched, may I ask?
@@HemantKumar-id3jgomg calm down, it’s just movies allthewhile this is a real murder case… pff acting so obsessed over bollywood smh
At the end of the day the police community botched this investigation. Rule one of investigating cases is that you let the evidence lead you to the answer. These detectives/ police officers already had the answer in their heads and tried to find evidence to fit their narrative.
The only theory that fits the facts is that the dad SA'd the daughter and was caught by the live-in assisstant. Mom knew it had been happening, hence the detachment. Explains why the cremation, and they likely bought off the medical examiner. Explains the attempt to wash their daughter. They probably killed her to keep quiet about the murder of the assisstant.
thats still just a theory but its the one that makes the most sense, &it feels like authorities + the media kept coming up with way more outlandish unreasonable theories just to avoid implicating the father in any way (for social + sexist reasons i have to assume). statistically speaking, most s/ual violence against kids is committed by immediate family
but even if the father was abusing the kid it wouldve still been blamed on her for being a promiscuous child or something. its obscene
That's the exact same theory I was thinking. With all the evidence being destroyed or tampered with, the biggest indicator is the father talking about the assistant in the past tense.
And you are so right about the mother's behavior being the result of the fathers abuse. Idk some people can become "emotionless" empty husks after exposure to abuse for periods of time.
Well, it is Hindu custom. I believe that was one of the top arguments. They do try to cremate the bodies within 24-48 hours. The house is cleaned by relatives. And they also help clean and dress the bodies of the lost family members too. It doesn’t have to be the reason. But it is a custom.
@@raindrops005yes we do clean...but it was murder scene.... Even kids know if they clean all evidences will be gone
I clicked on the video so fast. I am from India and I remember this case shook the whole country, the investigation went on for soooo long that people became so frustrated and angry. I remember I was actually around the age of Arushi when she was so brutally murdered and I remember my parents being so invested in this case and kind of disgusted by the headlines in the media.
This case has shades of the Murdaugh case with all of the friends, neighbors and family members traipsing through the crime scene destroying evidence and shady police officers not doing their jobs properly.
My husband’s family is from India and I have heard of this case. Thank you so much for covering this case. Rest in peace sweet Arushi. This poor girls character was assassinated after she was horrifically murdered. It’s absolutely disgusting.
Jonbennet Ramsey maybe
i can't believe i forgot abt this case! the murdaugh's definitely were like a hierarchy in sc law, but it seemed a lot more cohesive & clear than the talwar case. this case has my head spinning! 😵💫
@@nomdeplume2213recently after 40yrs her father was acquitted and now they agree it's an intruder job
Police officers NEVER do their jobs properly here, there’s nothing especially shady about their incompetence in this case.
She definitely cries alone baby. Go give your mom a hug and some fruit. That’s how I show love I guess
I won't lie when I heard this one as a podcast the mental image of the house went completely over my head because I'm austistic but the visual helped SOOOOO MUCH. thank you for doing both for this!
Neurodivergent gang gang 🧠🌈
@@018milliondollarbaby yeeee😂🌈
So... is this a common trait in neurodivergents? I'm glad I'm not the only one.
I know people who have vivid pictures of the scenes and the characters in their heads as they read novels. I can never 😂
I'd only know what they are supposed to look like if they are ever get made into a movie.
@@AutumnBBBE yup it's very common! I don't have issues when reading actually visualizing it but listening with no captions I just can't grasp the visual the same 😅
@@xAngelxHazex Ah, great to know that! Thank you for sharing 😊 It always feels nice learning sth new.
Have just known it's a common trait and that people can just have a difficulty with one and not both (listening vs reading).
I have problems with both 😆
However, in terms of data processing, I do a lot better with captions on! I always turn on caption even though I'm not hard of hearing. Otherwise, I'd be too distracted by my own thoughts and zone out. My brain would then not register and process what I am hearing. Everything becomes just a meaningless background noise, not words.
So many times I wish there is a caption toggle irl because then I would not have to spend so much energy trying to concentrate on listening and following through, especially after a long day 🙃
There are still a lot of things I've yet to discover if it's just me or it's a being on the spectrum thing, being surrounded by neurotypicals and not knowing any neurodivergents personally irl and all 😅
Here, in India, it is strongly believed that the case was influenced by many people. Especially by those who were in favor of the Talwar family. Also idk if it is true but there is a speculation that the one of the IPS/IAS involved in this case was a relative of the family and was constantly trying to push the blame on the other 3 people especially the other victim Hemraj. But yes to this day it remains a mystery who did it, why they did it. It is just disgusting to know how in out country victim blaming is sold to increase the ratings of news channels. Had been the investigation done properly, just maybe the victims would have got the justice they needed.
this kind of cases make me want to have the ultimate knowledge or become a ghost just looking in the past or sth im so curious about what exactly happened
Ikr unsolved cases brings me so much anxiety, I want to know what happened so bad and if the monsters who truly did this is free and about
The dad saying her death time was 2am and the wifi activity being on at 2am??? When they’re supposedly “asleep”. Plus I wonder what Hemraj wanted to tell the social worker. Also in the video with the mom when they asked her what she wanted people to remember in her daugther’s memory she talks about how her life has changed and getting justice for her family she doesn’t speak specifically about her child. Odd. Seems like the parents do care about their reputation a lot more than their child.
Hmm yeah parents are defo the killers bc the wifi was on and the mom didn’t wail enough to satisfy viewers 👍🏼
@@malinasworldat least it sounds more realistic than blaming a literal child and a grown man having an affair.
@@farimb2380 Or, hear me out: Hemraj unwittingly brought a killer into the house. Despite Rotten Mango stating that Hemraj was 45, he was also widely reported to be in his 50s. It’s common to remote villagers to not know exactly when they were born. He worked in another Delhi household before but decided he was getting too old to be a servant and retired. Then he came back from Nepal asking around for work again because he suddenly needed money. Despite this, his family back home weren’t being sent his wages. That night, Hemraj got a 6 minute phone call from a pay phone within 1 km of the house. He served himself dinner that night but didn’t eat it. Afterwards, they found alcohol and extra glasses in his room, but Hemraj was a teetotaller for years. There was also a bloody footprint too big to be Rajesh’s on the terrace, and unidentifiable prints on the scotch bottle. Hemraj was found with facial hair in his teeth and he was murdered with a khukri, a Nepalese knife. He’d also said that he feared for his life and for his *family* before he died. The Talwars or any Indian family wouldn’t have been able to threaten a remote village family across the border. In my opinion, I think Hemraj unfortunately got into some trouble and tried to talk it out that night, but things ended violently. Aarushi must’ve been collateral damage, she probably saw the killer at some point. If he was known to her, she wouldn’t have raised an alarm. So that’s my theory. Thanks for reading, I wrote too much.
With all the crazy/baseless accusations by the police, i don't think we will know for sure whether it was just another twisted storyline the police made up
Why did the daughter sleep with her bedroom door locked at night? That's a red flag to me.
Hey! I am from India. And I was in school when this happened, and it shook the nation. The defamation of a 13 year old and the way media portrayed it was crazy. As a kid it was hard to understand what was going on but, later on when I rewatched all of it things became more clearer. I still think about her, she was just an ordinary girl like anyone and had plans about the future, excited for her board exams to finish. I have seen multiple documentaries and coverage on this case but Stephanie always brings something new and does full justice to the victims and research, love ya ❤️❤️
Hemraj is remembered as a criminal more than a victim. All because no killer has been arrested. Such a shame. People are illiterate to the point where they don't understand the meaning of 'innocent until proven guilty'. They dumped everything on the deceased because it was convenient for them rather than running around and making efforts to solve this mystery. Hemraj was someone's husband, someone's son, someone's father and much more. He deserves apology
Quick question.. how did the father hear the original commotion that made him come out of the bedroom, if the air conditioner made so much noise that he couldn't hear his daughter scream?? That's one contradiction in the story that to me proves the father is telling at least a half a lie somewhere along the lines
Seems to me that the parents had help from other doc "friends" that helped with the cover-up
I'm obsessed with you guys. Thank you so much for bringing light to these cases. You're incredible at retelling these stories and I can't tell you how grateful your audience is for how respectful and thorough you are. We love you!
Hi, I'm from india. this case still remains one of the most famous unsolved cases of india. there is also a movie made on this case 'talvar' which tbh tried to portray the parents as complete saints. i mean idk if the parents did it or not but surely they knew something, there are literally so many loopholes in the stories and honestly the police really showed negligence during the first 24 hours, by the time they actually started investigating seriously all the evidences were gone or tampered with. but i honestly feel bad mostly about how arushi even after death was character assasinated and dragged through mud just because the media wanted a spicy story. i'm really glad stephanie that you decided to cover it, you didn't leave out a single detail otherwise this case is really hard to get in detail. its all over the place.
@OfficerZ637😐
@OfficerZ637are u mentally okay?
I like how you feel bad about Arushi being maligned but just finished implying that the parents were involved, with no evidence.
@@cocothumbjust report all their comments. They're spamming with this disgusting nonsense.
Why didn’t have the forensic check if there are any fingerprints on hemrajs body ?? It kills me that they left Hemraj as he was nothing 😢
It's crazy how eloquent and articulate you are, Stephanie.. thank you for sharing this with us..
I'm always totally in awe of her abilities. I have never experienced this with anyone before, and I'm old.
Even if I’ve heard of the case before, the way that Stephanie tells it it’s like a whole new case with so much detail and information. Thank you to you snd your team for all the hard work and amazing content as usual💕
I'm a fairly new subscriber and her story telling is unmatched 🤗
@OfficerZ637Do you have a life?
@OfficerZ637 what?
@OfficerZ637Okay, so cite the sources? None? Thought so.
I too have listened to her story after already seeing and hearing the case before. She just tells it more thoroughly even if I watched the whole interrogation myself which I had twice before.
The amount of victim blaming in this story is insane
I remember this story a while back. It was always so weird how her parents quickly cremated her and destroyed all evidence or didn't care much for getting justice for her daughter murder. I really think the father was abusing his daughter and the worker caught him and he murdered both of them and just had the story twisted and destroyed the evidence. The mom was forced to stay quiet from the father or else she would be next.
Yeah I don’t understand why they want cremated their own daughter too soon…
If their innocent I 💯 guarantee they want evidence 1st before cremation
Well, they were Hindus and generally in some areas, they do cremate the body soon after. They don’t really leave it or wait for long. Atleast I believe it was one of the counter arguments against this cremation argument.
Idk but generally South asian cremated dead as soon as possible for religious reason.. The later you do the funeral the more the soul suffer... In Hinduism and lslam it said to do the crematory or burial soon after the date.. Some even suggest to do it in the same day they passed... So the soul can rest in peace... Even in religion cutting through body after death is really disrespectful for the dead it is painful for the soul too... So most of the time even though there was a crime committed family Doesn't want to do autopsy... It's all religious reason.. So i Don't think It's a big deal that they cremated soo fast... Most avarage india would do that... It's the culture after all...
And yeah they Didn't touch her daughter is must be the reason of Their medical background... Even of i saw someone loved laying in a pool of blood i might call someone rather touching them... It would make me go crazy and scared to even touch... It's just a instinct.. Even though i have no relation with medical but still it would bey first instinct...
The whole investigation is flowed with no evidance rather making the Parents a scape goat to hide the misconducting of the investigation...
Thats what i think too i mean really its the only theory that makes sense. The rest is just sensationalism.
I mean that doesn't seem one hundred percent fair, the mother in the interview in May 2008 was asking someone, anyone to find the killer of her child even when he lawyers told her not to. It's also quite common to cremate fast in some parts of india, even with murder victims. As recent as last year in Patiala the police barely managed to stop a murder victims cremation from going forward when they realized her husband killed her.
All I want is for this not to be another Lindy Chamberlain where just because the mother was bad with emotions the public hated her. Most people only know Lindy to this day as the "the dingo ate my baby" woman, and the sad thing was it was true.
I just don't think we have enough proof one way or the other to actually convict anyone. I do think the parents are very likely but I wouldn't swear on it.
Indian media can be absolutely ludicrous. They can go any length to sensationalize a happening and suppress the truth.
I’ve listened to this case so many times from so many real crime channels but Steph! The way you shone some light on HemRaj’s life and how he was a victim too and Arushi’s character… hands down no one would have done it the way you and your team looked at it. This is why listening to you makes me a wiser and more literate person and also the amount of survival knowledge you put it out there.. you are a life changer! Thank you so much Rotten Mango team!!!
26:30 I’m a 21 year old virgin but I used to joke like that with my friends too when I was in middle school and highschool… it’s so weird of them to call a 13 year old a “temptress” for joking about sexual thing with her teen friends
The issue is that there are too many people that are trying to insert themselves in this incident. From AJ, to the social worker, to the CBA that wanted to go "for a walk", to the retired detective, to the relatives that came to "clean the house". There's just too many people that try to play the hero. We don't need a hero. We need the truth.
I was a teenager when this happened and I hated how police had been treating the dead, absolutely disgraceful, putting random theories on the deap people. I’m glad the police has gotten better now. Not great, but better.
Sometimes it's obvious when you see a body that it's way too late to resuscitate. As she was killed the night before, I imagine she was stiff when they found her, and depending on the head trauma, it might have been obvious she was gone the moment they saw her.
I agree and I also read that Aarushi was cremated so quickly for religous reasons. So that isn't suspicious to me either!
@drameow3593 Yes, I was kind of disappointed in Stephanie for not going into this since I would assume that most of her audience is Western (as she's an American and this is an English language channel).
Cremation, not burial, is very much the norm in India, so having child who died cremated would not be at all unusual.
Not trying to defend the parents but they're medical professionals (dentists). So there's a good chance they have a tolerance to trauma. Most medical professionals will go back to work even after the death of a loved one. Cleaning up the mattress might have been a way for them to cope with Arushi's loss.
@@mikrokosmosis_Yeah, I don’t know if there is normal for dentists everywhere but in the very first year of dental school here (at age 17/18) they saw open (as in with a machine saw) cadaver’s heads and things. When you learn and work in a government hospital you see a lot of gore. Plus we don’t have a lot of confidence in our police or justice system. I wouldn’t be surprised if they cleaned the mattress because they were thinking, she’s gone, it’s over, nobody can help us, we need to learn to live like this now.
@@Pagan-of_GoodTimesYup, Hindus don’t do anything to preserve the body like embalming it. They believe in cremating the dead as soon as possible.
Arushi Talwar Double Murder Case is one of the most twisted and mind boggling murder case Indian criminal authorities has to ever deal with. Thiers no denyjng UP Police had no inclination in giving justice to this poor girl.
Wasn’t it the UP police ? As the case happened in Noida just clarifying
It was UP police and then the case was transferred to CBI
And both CBI teams were problematic
I love how patient she is with explaining everything to her husband
Is he her husband?
@@L_i_o_n_e_s_syep! Wedding was not long ago
1:24:50 househelp wouldn’t know how to wipe data off the phone. parents look very suspicious.
Poor girl was a victim who lost her life and reputation because of evil ignorant people. May she rest in peace
There was this crazy case in Russia 4 years ago, then the mother closed her 3 children in the house for 11 years. She didn’t allow them to go out of the house, go to school, sleep before she went to sleep herself (and she could stay up all night). They were eating just bread and tea and having sandwiches once per week, and the oldest daughter referred to this like a feast in her recent interview. Literally, their dog were fed better than these children. They were forbidden to shower (washed themselves just once per 3-6 months), forbidden to brush their hair, forced to wear dirty clothes.
Oldest daughter’s name is Darin and she’s laughing in her interview talking about how her mother were beating her up with a leash with an iron carabiner until she would have open wounds in her head or hitting her knees saying that she wants her daughter stop walking so she would stay with her forever. One day, when the girl went out of the house, her mother saw it on the cameras, beat her, doused her with engine oil, and forced her to sleep on the floor in the hallway.
Younger son has a hump on his back, he had awful back pains, but mother didn’t want to treat him, she told to her daughter that she wants him to be a cripple so he wouldn’t get away from her. Oldest sister was the most abused one, but then her brother tried to help her once, their mother threatened him with a folding sickle holding it near his neck and then started to hit his back with its handle (again he has back problems and were in extremely pain constantly).
Later on, she started to beat up her youngest daughter. Once she pushed her down the stairs.
The oldest daughter escaped in her 20 and took her sibling with her, and their mother killed herself and lit the house on fire.
What the hell. Russia has some really gruesome cases. The one that I remember is of a man who tied his pregnant girlfriend/wife in the balcony even though it was freezing cold and was streaming it live. He even beat her until she died. I don't know if it's true but evidently the guy didn't get any punishment because there's no law against domestic violence in Russia.
can you share a link where i can read more about this case
yea bro can you give some sort of keyword or link so that i can research on this case, it sounds insane
wtf
I live in noida,UP ..she was one the girls from prestigious, well known school here..its just so sickening to hear about these cases in our own city..noida has also one more famous case of nithari murders, please cover about this one.. anytime in future .
if he was "caught" in a compromising position with the daughter- why did he still have slippers on when found on the terrace?
That's a very good point indeed
Never heard it mentioned much here in India back then
That's a very good point indeed!
Never heard it discussed more here in India back then
Really good point
Not only was the crime scene compromised, but the people who handled the case were INCOMPETENT. This case was mishandled so bad, no wonder it's unsolved and the poor victims never got any justice
Just one clarification that is the pillow cover with Hemraj's blood was mostly recovered from Krishna's house but it was mislabeled which caused it to get lost. Plus they also suspected krishna at some point because he is also a dental assistant so from a medical background and could also have made the clean cuts. Also like it seems like most of people always think that Arushi was the target and hemraj was the collateral damage however it could have been vice-vesa which Noone even cared to investigate.Thus case is just so disturbing because somewhere someone who knows the truth of what happened that night and is still roaming free. RIP to Arushi and Hemraj
Hiiii stephanieeee, I think you should do an episode on the Hawe Family Murders, It was a case where a man wanted to take his own life but decided to take his wife and two sons along with him. It happened a couple of years ago and he actually used to live 10 minutes away from where I lived and I even met him once! It's a really complex case!! Its not a really known case at all!
@OfficerZ637 i see you on a lot of these videos, spreading this misinformation is disgusting. lets not.
@OfficerZ637 that's rlly disgusting, don't spread misinformation like that..
@OfficerZ637as they should, you creep
@OfficerZ637bro I’d stop if I were you this is defamatory and she could sue you for this.
@OfficerZ637so distasteful.
What if it was Hemraj's friend? The original housekeeper, if he lost is job because of Hemraj and got angry? There wasn't much more detail about him.
I’m sorry but I just couldn’t finish this video. The more I watched it the more mad I got. So you’re telling me grown ass men really believed this 13 year old did this to herself? And then people were cleaning the crime scene while there is a murdered 13 year old in the bed room??? Absolutely insane.
I recently came across this channel. You have a very captivating, unique way of telling these stories and shed light on the victims personalities and what they endured. It's almost like listening to an actual audiobook about a crime.
You weren't kidding when you said this was the Indian Jon-Benet Ramsey case! So frustrating and fascinating at the same time. Great job, Team Mango!
This case baffles me to this day, as I remember there being an uproar in the entire country when it happened, so many years have passed and nothing has happened, but as much as I have followed, I am very much inclined towards the parents doing it, probability of an unknown person coming to their house, killing two people, covering Aarushi with a blanket, and leaving casually, all the while parents sleeping in the nearby room doesn’t seems an acceptable theory to believe, something is fishy to say the least.
I can’t see any reason for the parents to kill Arushi and Hemraj. Personally I’m more inclined to the theory that Hemraj invited someone into the house, kept him in his room overnight, and that person killed Hemraj in a fight, then Arushi as an accident: maybe she saw him?
The reason I believe this is because Hemraj came out of retirement to work for the Talwars and he wasn’t sending money home though he was being paid on time. Seems like he had some troubles. Plus the extra bottles/glasses in his room and the phone.
@@malinasworld 45 isn't retirement age
@@MusMasi His exact age wasn’t known. It was widely reported to be somewhere in the 50s. Avirook Sen, the author of Aarushi, tracked down Hemraj’s previous employers and found out that Hemraj left them after ten years of service saying he was too old to work.
I think the father raped his daughter and Hemraj saw so the father killed them both on the spot in fear and dragged Hemraj to the terrace . When her body was first discovered the dad was frantic to make sure the initial police did not check the terrace so he clearly knew what was up there and why there was a trail of blood connecting on the wall to the terrace. The daughter also probably had evidence of her parents being trash on her phone and thats why it was wiped. Mother was likely complacent to father’s abuse and the mom and dad mightve tried to sit Hemraj down in his room to talk him down from saying anything at first (since there were three indents on Hemraj’s bed which the retired police alleges/claims means there were three adults at play) but then they just decided its better to leave him dead so the father maybe slit his throat which caused the blood to splatter and they tried to clean it but missed the blood on the fingerprint-less liquor bottle??? It would also explain why both the mother and father were very quick and uncompromising on getting her body cremated before a proper autopsy could be done. Aarushis mom and dad also ALLOWED all the family and neighbors in to clean and touch everything before the police even came so seems like the parents purposefully wanted evidence as hard to collect as possible. This is just me taking guesses of course. I dont think any of the neighbors or workers did anything to the daughter. Because why would the neighbors dental friends give their worker an alibi for where he was that night if he (their worker) 1. Was besties with Krishna who accused the wife of the dental friend being in an affair with Aarushi’d dad 2. If he actually did it and their was some sort of evidence to attest to it which would also help clear his wife’s possible infidelity??
Idk again im just guessing but this is what i think. I havent finished the video yet, im only at 53 minutes but this sounds like what is happening to me. Everybody is lying to protect Aarushi’s mom and dad and yet they are the two getting questioned the least? Its odd.
I was shocked watching parents interview .. especially mother..it was very strange...
I'm just listening while at work. The mother during the interview sounds like she's doing her best to stay calm while taking. I do hear emotion in her tone, especially how she gets quieter at the end of the sentence.
She said to the cleaning lady that the housekeeper went to buy milk so to come back.. she insisted on coming in and this is the scene she walked into...the mother didn't act like anything was wrong ..she wanted her to go away until they decide what to do with their daughter's body..why would he be engaged in anything with their 13yr when he had called a social worker and his wife in Nepal that he feared for his life..MAKES NO SENSE!
Exactly, she knows what happened.
Actually the maid had to ring the doorbell 3 times until someone answered as Hemraj (the house keeper) would always wake up early to allow the maid inside, but since Hemraj was (unknown at the time) dead, the parents were woken up, (it’s also stated in the case both parents wake up in the afternoon and was confirmed by the maid and previous house keepers). The mother had barley woken up and weren’t sure why Hemraj wasn’t home and assumed he had left to get milk or something and asked the maid to wait but the maid was already running late on time and asked her to throw the keys which the mother did, and then after they left their bedroom and noticed the body.
A few details missed.
1 Aarushi was born through IVF.
2 there was actually a full blood soaked handprint found on the balcony. I don't remember what they did bout it.
3 idk really know if it's that useful. But hemraj couldn't open his rooms door that lead to the very first metal door. Because yk like there is one corner in you room where you just throw all the stuff, especially when you don't have alot of space to keep your stuff. So hemraj just threw all his stuff in front of the door. So it was blocked. But i guess he could move the stuff.
They tried to test the DNA and fingerprints, The DNA matched to hemraj's blood and also maybe those fingerprints matched to some suspect (talking about the handprint)
NO WAYYYYY YOU COVERED THIS CASE!!!!!!! I was so into it and wanted so badly for someone to authentically cover it, and you did. I mean, as soon as I read the thumbnail, I couldn't help but write this comment down. Thanks sooo muchhh! absolutely love your videos!
Yessss! I was hoping that you would tell this story. My heart hurts for not only Aarushi, but for Hemraj and his family as well.❤
The wetness under her pelvic region was probably her bladder releasing it's contents upon death.
Yeah it could have been a lot of things, which is why evidence collection is important!
It was not urine.
@@sandpiperr Stop denying it. Admit the teen was of a very loose character.
She was Sexually active and she even had a boyfriend who she broke up with a few months before the murder.
Why do you think she broke up with her boyfriend?
Hint Hint: the Cooks dong was bigger.
@@Rexorazoryou are disgusting. This is a child you are talking about
You're so disgusting, She was murdered!! She was an Indian girl having a bf, not any white girl, You don't know how asian parenting is, you don't know the dating culture 13 year old has, they just would've hold hands, exchange chocolate 🍫@@Rexorazor
It’s disgusting how they dragged the victims name through the mud… no peace even after death
Did they even check to see if she was sexually active or assaulted and check for DNA?
As far as I understood, no
The guy who made an autopsy allegedly was not qualified to do this procedure and then parents cremated her body
@@mikumikuareka Yeah from a comment on here apparently the autopsy man didn't even know how a woman's body parts looked like and had never done an autopsy on a woman before so he doesn't know how the parts are supposed to look like.
i genuinely feel this innocent angel’s death was not taken seriously at all. these people treated her case as if it was their playground. absolutely disgusting and upsetting. i hope she is resting peacefully despite all these adults acting so childish.
I am considering the attitude of her mom when she hesitated to let the cleaner in.
OMG Rotten Mango!!! This was/is such a HUGE case since forever in India.
I would turn the TV off whenever there was news about this case and I refused to read about this because it was so distressing
I’m watching this for the first time now because I trust your compassionate storytelling
Yes favorite thing about her she makes it easy to listen to without feeling sick or overwhelned
1:33:24 This detail made me feel sick. Not just because of the horror Arushi went through but the continuation of the sloppy work of these 'professionals'.
Every person who messed up the case should at least be fined including the press.
Rest in peace sweet Arushi and Hemraj. 🕯️🕯️
I don’t know how you do it but you manage to find the most bizarre stories.
Your level of the telling of the stories is unparalleled. Thank you!
Finally you are covering this. I was 12 when this happened. This one really baffled the whole nation. I remember I used to read newspapers everyday and would discuss every small detail with my friends wondering why the police can't just solve it.
The way the two victims were treated is utterly heartbreaking. It’s crucial that such cases receive the extensive media coverage they deserve, until concrete actions, including the filing of charges and convictions are obtained.
Thank you so much for listening to my request and covering this case! I had commented under your video of the Seongsu Bridge tragedy and you actually covered this case!! Thank you❤
This was a very tragic case and I was really shocked after first hearing this case long back.
It's still haunting and so strange that it's unsolved still.
She may have already been researching this case tho we don't know
For me it's clear that the parents have something to do with the crime. Why would they call friends and family instead of the police? Why were they that desperate to clean the house? And why were they in a hurry to cremate the body? It's at least weird.
Well, it is Hindu custom. I believe that was one of the top arguments. We do try to cremate the bodies within 24-48 hours. The house is cleaned by relatives. And they also help clean and dress the bodies of the lost family members too. It doesn’t have to be the reason. But it is a custom.
I am from india, and really we are the worst when it come to preservation of crime scene everyone wanna be play CID(its a crime show). So yeah . Also this case was a wake up. Hated the parents thought completely hated them. They had hands in mudding their own 13 years of daughter name and character, later playing the victim card. All. It was sad for aarushi.
Thank you Stephanie your story telling is so unique and well done!! ❤
Thank you Stephanie for covering this case. I'm from India and I can tell you, to this day people talk about this case. There have also been lots of movies made on this, the one that got popular is "TALVAR" which also means "sword" in english. And it looked soo fabricated my god, I still can't believe. My heart breaks for Aarushi, may she rest in peace.
My deduction is that the father was caught SAing his daughter by the house helper. He had to kill them both to cover everything up, and the mother is defending her husband both to protect the family name and so she wouldn't be alone to stand by her husband, so on so forth that what seems to be the case and they tried to sloppily cover it all up
My take on this case is the father killed both victims and the mother is helping to cover her husband's crime and to save face.
I think Hemraj really cares for ahrushie and both became really close. Both victims may know secrets that can ruin the parents (such as Ahrushie being SA by the father)
Hemraj may have been lured by the father and killed at the rooftop.
Then knowing Ahrushie and Hemraj are close, they need to get rid of her as well.
So much evil if this theory is true.
May their soul rest in peace and may find justice someday.
The father is definitely guilty!!!
I had somewhat similar theory too
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Hi Stephanie! I think it would be interesting if you could talk about the Yoki case. A Brazilian case of a woman who killed and discarded her husband's body on a suitcase on the road. The case is really crazy, from the beginning of the relationship to the way it ended, and the fact that the husband was one of the heirs of one of the biggest food companies in Brazil.
Sorry if made any mistakes, English is not my first language. Love from Brazil!
Your English was excellent, understood it clearly!
Esse ia ser massa msm
Ela já fez em 2021, é o episódio 122