She lied about having qualifications and lied about a job for 12 years. She had at least 2 lives and had affairs and relationships with her own family members. She's a pathological liar and can't be trusted. These people go to any lengths to get away with their lies. They are dangerous. Where is the money she got from the "job" and what was she really doing all day?
Now that you mention it, it is very fishy that she all of a sudden was a provider but had no job. Maybe she got inheritance money from her past victims and used that. But still, what was she doing all day for 12 years?
@@Kayla-eh5fb they have a lot of property her both in laws were government workers so they got pension. She did not have to give her money which did not exist for anything and after annama's death she managed all finances. But still she had another appartment on rant in another city whuch nobody in the family knew about idk how she managed it and it is suspected that she went there in the disguise of being a professor at NIT to past time. She had a doublelife for sure to fund this money.
Is it possible that, while she was allegedly going to work as a professor for 12 yrs., she was having OTHER affairs and getting money from these other men?
As much as I know by reading a lot of documentaries and watching the show curry and cyanide she actually used to go to NIT's canteen and used to set over there for hours
“Why did she kill the innocent toddler?” She killed her own dog and five other family members. Does she need a rational reason to kill a toddler? She probably got a kick out of killing people or something
After watching the documentary and listening to Stephanie, I felt that the saddest part was Annamma Thomas, the mother-in-law, was punished for being a progressive and supportive woman. In a country where married women struggle to uphold their careers and interests, especially in that time period, she didn’t want ( whom she thought was ) a highly qualified woman to sit at home and idle away.
If Jolly wanted to stay at home to be a present mother despite her supposed qualifications, that would not be her idling away. It's messed up that Annamma kept pushing Jolly to work when they were well off enough that they didn't need the money, and even set up an interview for her without Jolly's permission?? If Annamma was forcing Jolly to stay home, everyone would be in an uproar
@@mangomochi7111 Jolly could have easily said that she didn't want to work or be honest in the first place and admit that she's not as qualified as she pretended to be. The only reason Annamma agreed to the marriage was that Jolly was qualified enough to work and maybe add financial support to her family. So everyone knew going in, including Jolly, that it was expected of her. It's messed up that she chose to kill instead of any of the other options. Especially when she pulled that fake job stunt later.
the mother in law sounded like a menace though. why was she demanding her to work after her baby was born. I'm not saying I agree with murder......that is awful what she did but I hate people who keep on pressuring someone to do something they clearly don't want to. either way, her crimes are not justifiable. disgusting for sure.
@mangomochi so jolly should just stay home, not provide anything to the family income, live off of Annamama’s work? The least she could’ve done was be honest and say she didn’t want to work….but she also lied about her qualifications and couldn’t work.
@@HopeeInk I think the commenter means that even after having watched your dog suffer for that long and seeing how excruciating the death was, you go ahead and use it on people. Like instead of going "Omg, that was awful. What have I done?" she was like "Ah, perfect!"
i was a kid when this unfolded. i remember when "cyanide jolly" became a joke among students. someone would ask you for some water, and once you give them a bottle theyd ask, you sure theres no cyanide in there??? and laugh around. i used to laugh too, because none of us really knew how scary the case was.
Wow!! That is scary. There's so many things in our childhood that we laugh at but not understanding the story behind yet, once we're adults that's when we realize the meaning or the real story behind is beyond awful and terrifying!
the thing about NIT: she used to go to NIT and have meals from the campus cafeteria (where all the profs and staff would have meals). the profs thought she was a regular worker and the workers there thought she was a prof. this thing went on for 12 years and no one reall knew what she did there. she used to just to go to the cafeteria and have meals and leaves.
Blind? To give them credit, in large organizations, it's EASY to be assumed as just working another department. Bc that makes sense. How would they know to consider that a person they've seen for TWELVE YEARS had no business there...
@@gamergirl4309 yes, but 12 years i just such a long period of time to go this undetected. she interacted with a lot of people and no one found that anything was off????
Criminals are mostly stupid. I remember this case where the wife managed to kill two of her husbands and gulped down the insurance money before being busted.
As a keralite, I was very young when this happened but I do remember the sister 'leela' having doubts and finally realising jolly is responsible for the murders . When jolly gets to know that Leela is on her back Jolly trys to poison Leela with freaking cyanide as well!! But Leela was lucky and apparently drank litres of water and escaped death And the dosage jolly gave was less than the deathly dosage
I'm not defending her at all because she is horrible but that is misinformation. He is not her cousin.. Roy is a very distant relative and Shaju is Roy's cousin, not hers.
After marriage jolly wanted sanju's full attention and if that child was still alive he would care for his child that's why she killed alphine and also she didn't want to take care of her
Maybe she was testing if it was potent enough on someone who couldn't speak. Maybe it was collateral damage while she was coming up with her dangerous curry and if it was too noticeable? She couldn't exactly test it on herself.
My guess is that it was an accident where the two yr old got caught in the cross fire. like originally the curry was supposed to be for a different family member but the aunty gave it to her instead
The majority of bodies in India are cremated (as per Hindu religion). It was because they were buried due to being Christians that the authorities even had the bodies to exhume to test for cyanide. It just chills me to think that the truth was so close to never being exposed.
If you are well off family with property even in hindu religion in kerala you can decide whatever most people do cremation coz they dont have enough space in property to use as grave as hindus dont have cemetery as Christians
I wonder how many times this has happened so far and nobody knows. Indians are 1 billion people after all and mostly Hindu. Sociopaths can be born into any family.
@second_lead_simp you're not making any sense Hindus don't need cemetery they do not bury the body rich or poor they burn the body at shamshan ghat ( cremation area )
@@second_lead_simp I believe it's not only based on the ability to do so with property, because in the village that my family is in, almost everyone has quite a lot of land in their home which they mostly just keep as an extended yard or if they have cows, for them to pasture. However, most families I know choose to cremate if they are more religious because it is seen as a way to offer your body to Agni, the God of Fire.
thats absolutely not true. no one sane is burying their family in the backyard for sure. Hindus cremate to return the soul to the cycle of life, and also to return the body to nature just to make sure no lingering souls take up the vessel for themselves.
The fact that i watched the entire docuseries on netflix and already know the story but will hear about it all over again just because stephanie is narrating it!
Apparently someone at the university she “worked” at said she saw her there every day even though she didn’t actually worked there, but it wasn’t questioned.
@@0neepuOh yeah she was making money she had an apartment that she bought secretly and rentend. She would show up to her university everyday just to get people to see her there and believe her.
@@youtubeuser8816 I thought this is so for every universities, but unless they have a famous delecacy normally I don't see why one want to go there specifially for meal if one is not part of the university community, but perhaps I am exactly not a running aound poison pepople type hense I cannot comprehand such thing
I usually really enjoy Stephanie’s storytelling even with the skewed timeline as she ties it all together neatly in the end. But this time, even as someone who has watched the documentary, I found her entire narrative to be quite confusing. I’d actually recommend everyone to go watch the documentary for a way clearer understanding of the case and timeline. Also, Steph actually missed some important aspects of the case, like when Jolly faked Tom Thomas’s will which brewed Leela Thomas’s suspicions at the start.
Remember Stephanie doesn’t do all this on her own, she has a team assisting. Also it is “her” narrative. I haven’t found it confusing at the half way mark. I haven’t heard of all but one ( orphan killer) and not found them confusing. It’s a story to me, I don’t need a timeline to follow this.
I'm from Koodathayi, Calicut - Kerala where this happened and this pink house is on the to my home. I was in Kerala for college at the time Jolly was arrested. Since then whenever I visit my home during the weekends and I pass by the pink house I get CHILLS. I get covered by a blanket of fear thinking of the people that died helplessly in this house. God bless em.
I am a mallu myself and I watched the Netflix documentary about this. I think it’s horrific that Jollyamma did this and the 6 people didn’t deserve to die in such a horrific and cruel way. Shame on Jolly…
Praji Kumar, the guy who gave jolly the cyanide, is the one who pierced my ears and when i saw him getting arrested on news, i instantly took my piercing studs off and threw it away 💀💀( I was such a scaredy cat, lmao)
When this case happened it caused chaos in our country. Jolly was such a motherly figure, but she deceived everyone around her. Thank you so much for this informative video. I really love this video.
A friend recommended this channel a year ago. I completely forgot about it and came back a year later after I moved schools. God, I miss her. I am glad I checked it out. Thank you.
I don't know about the baby. I am not sure of this information but I saw it on another documentary that the baby's murder is not confirmed to be done by jolly and the father is suspiciously seems to be involved in jolly case. As he got married to jolly just after his wife died and didn't want any postmortem (to check from what she died from a report is made) after two members from his family died consequently. I hope that's not the case and I really hate pointing fingers and assuming in these type of cases.
Timeline of the crimes In 2002, Annamma Thomas (aged 57), the mother-in-law of the accused, drank a glass of water after returning home from a walk. Immediately afterwards, she began to feel uneasy and dizzy, eventually collapsing on the floor. She was taken to the hospital where she later died, and the doctors declared that she had suffered a heart attack. In 2008, Tom Thomas (aged 66), Annamma's husband and Jolly's father-in-law, passed away after swooning and collapsing. Jolly Joseph was allegedly present at the spot on both occasions. In 2011, Roy Thomas (aged 40), Jolly's then husband, died after consuming his dinner of puttu and chickpea curry. He was found dead in a bathroom which was locked from the inside. The cause of death was then ruled as suicide due to financial issues as the post-mortem report showed traces of poison. Roy's maternal uncle, Mathew Manjayadil, called for a post-mortem report and an inquiry into Roy's cause of death. In 2014, Mathew (aged 68) swooned and died after Jolly allegedly gave him poison-laden whisky. The deceased Roy has a cousin named Shaju Zachariah. The same year, Shaju's two-year-old daughter, Alphine Shaju, died after "choking on food". In 2016, Jolly allegedly gave Sily Shaju (aged 41), Alphine's mother, a mushroom capsule, which Jolly convinced Sily that it would help her with energy and depression and Sily died on the spot soon after. In 2018, Rojo Thomas came down to Koodathayi and filed a series of RTI applications. From the government hospital, he received a copy of the autopsy report of his brother’s body. “When he read the report, he found out that what Jolly told us was wrong. Jolly told us he had food at 3.30 pm and hadn’t had food after that. But it was clear in the post-mortem report that he had rice and chickpeas curry at 8.30 pm,” said family friend Mohammad Bawa. “Acute cyanide poisoning can result in death in a matter of seconds. Cyanide does not accumulate in the body and so it is rare to encounter it in slow death cases,” explained Dr V V Pillay, head of Forensic Medicine & Toxicology, Amrita Institute of Medical Sciences in Kochi.
At 2:26 I believe the priest meant 3 people who LIVE in this house are gonna die. Which was her MIL, FIL and husband. So he was right, which is kinda creepy to think about.
In the documentary a neighbor of the family revealed that the well thing was something Jolly said to her and to prove it was true she said that a priest told her so. It's 90% another one of Jolly's lies
Thanks for covering this case. I saw the documentary on Netflix, but I still enjoyed the way you approach the case. I had to literally rewind and rewatch the interview part where they make the family tree connections between the two families. Mind blown. I hope there will be a follow up video as the case progresses down the line!
I'm a Keralite, and when I started the documentary, I was so confused because this seemed like it would be a rather popular case and I thought I've never heard of it, and 20 minutes in I decided to read the comments and the shock on my face when I realized this was THE infamous Jolly case was out of this world--
You missed these .... •Jolly bought a small apartment where she stayed when she came out to work. •jolly was fascinated with the thought of being rich cause her parents were poor and she was jealous of other rich people. •jolly after annapama's death started taunting and bullying leela. •jolly was only high school pass, she never attended college nor did she had any degree. •jolly made false house will, which was on her name but leela caught her and they filed a case against her and jolly was almost prisoned but later on they stepback cause leela thought it will be hard on jolly's child to live without mother... •Cousine marriage is common in muslims and sometimes Christine, but in Hinduism it is not accepted... •Heart attack is quite normal in india my uncle,grandma and cousine had heart attack too, and this is why nobody doubted it here...
Agree with most. 👍🏽But cousin marriage is also present in Hinduism in a lot of communities, especially in South India. It's rare now but in my parent's generation I have seen many Hindu couples who are cousins.
alls true except for cousin marriage being forbidden in hinduism, the hindu gods Arjuna and Subhadra, Abhimanyu and Sasirekha are both first cousins and a couple. to this day, hindu cousin marriage is not uncommon.
stop spreading misinformation .cousin marriages are prohibited among christians , but more common among hindus in south india . even in this case jolly and joy are distant relatives and shaju is joy's cousin not jolly's
As smn who resides in Kerala and has followed this news from day 1, I'm glad Stephanie covered it. At that time, Jolly was the talk of the town and my heart goes out to the innocent six souls. Hope they rest in peace.
@@mhiadollxx8888Hey! It's because the confession made in jail or in front of police can be due to coercion by the police authorities or jail authorities. Hence, it's only valid if it is made in front of the judge without any pressure.
@@mhiadollxx8888 actually in Indian law you can be arrested before evidence is even collected. Unfortunately it's the system we inherited from the British which is misused.
This case gave me chills. If she didnt get caught, she would've carried on killing anybody else who got in her way. But the murder of the baby finished me.
So my uncles kids and her kids went to same school and she was a PTA committee member so was my uncle…they knew each other well and my uncle still can’t believe she isn’t a NIT professor…he told me her manipulation skill is out of this world…
Dude a dog still has a life even if it can't speak the language we do but still it has feelings stop thinking about only humans and think about them too
Well her murders did start with her trying to cover a lie about her education qualifications...and her goal wasn't to marry her own cousin...that was like a side quest
@@haggerd5986 where do you think she covers the English translation of the news from?? Obviously BBC India.. And you guys know well how manipulative and distorted their narratices are . And if you don't know this small thing then you better stay under the rock you were living all these years.. BBC was created during the ww2 for spreading propaganda AGAINST their enemies like CARROT PROPAGANDA which you still believe in 😂🤣and as many quickly jumps to the assumption that the propaganda were only against Hitler for good like you guys do ,but hey you are wrong BBC was used against all enemies of UK back then be it France or the allied forces or the Soviet or againsts it's own colonies and still today it is a weapon frequently stationed at the shores of UK for the fulfillment of the vested interests of THE CROWN
i got a little confused with the timelines on this one, lol, glad your husband always seems a little lost at the same parts i do lmao, sending hugs to yall. I love everything you do!
I think they do this on purpose; he plays the part of the audience insert, asking questions at the appropriate points so she can further clarify potentially confusing and/or complex parts of cases in an organic manner. It's smart writing and works very well imo.
Did nobody wonder how she got to be a professor at an engineering college with a masters in business/commerce? Science and engineering is a completely different subject from Commerce and no engineering college would hire someone without a science degree
Apparently, she wasn't teaching. She'll just show up at the school so that it looks like she teaches there then, She'll go to an apartment that she rented for herself and stay there till it's time to go home
The toddler story hit me hard. I remember when I was a toddler my mom and grandma were feeding me fish. I started crying and I said I am sure there is a fish bone in a piece that they gave me that they had checked and they dismissed me and told me to eat it even though I started crying. And guess what. There was a fish bone and it got stuck in my throat. They gave me the inside part of the bread to eat, so that it would hopefully remove it. It worked, but still, it hurt like hell. I can imagine that this toddler also could feel something was not right, but nobody listened to them :(
Jolly is not a cousin to Roy .Annama' s (jolly's MIL ) sister in law have a brother who is Jolly's father.They may be distant family but not cousins for sure.
Sister in law's brother would be Roy's father's brother as well and thus his uncle, which means Roy and his daughter would be paternal cousins. The only way they wouldn't be is if 'thar sister in law' was from another marraige or that brother being adopted?
As a Malayali and long-time Rotten Mango watcher, I'm glad you covered this case. I was in Kerala for a visit once when she was arrested, so all the news covered it. All of Kerala's culture was represented perfectly, and yes, Onam is quite a fun festival for us. Jolly's entire case is scary; she killed her victims to keep her secrets and reputation, and it got worse when more people questioned her. I have watched the 'Curry with Cyanide' documentary. I think the reason it feels extra creepy is because of the filming and editing. The filming makes it seem so ordinary, like a run-of-the-mill story with such crazy things going on. Also, the little sound effects were only the creepiest ones. Watching it was a very unique experience. Love from Kerala
thank you for always talking about international cases and explaining cultural issues along with power abuse in these countries. it brings awareness to how its citizens deserve so much more and to the victims of these cases.
I've been trying to get several other UA-camrs to do this story for a year! Thank you for finally doing it it's a. Crazy story. I didn't know Jolly and hubby were cousins 😮😮 the other stories I heard we're obviously way different than you are telling it. I want to know more about her/jolly growing up. What made her a serial killer....
This case is heartbreaking. Even the baby, my heart💔Evil does exist and here is a perfect example. Who needs enemies when you have family and friends like this…
Hey Steph! I have a suggestion on a case from India It's called the SHEENA BORA MURDER CASE it's super super interesting and Netflix even released a documentary almost defending the killer bcoz she's now out on bail even after committing heinous crime I hope you will cover this super mysterious case!
If this is aimed at a certain someone who looks a lot like me, I don't know what you've been told, or what BS illusions your'e living under, and congrats if you just happened to buy a house, good for you, but I have been stalked by proxy for years now by people who I want nothing to do with, who people seem to think want to "give me money", or a house or whatever. And let me tell you. If they EVER contact me, or try to have ANYTHING to do with me, I'm calling the police on them. I don't want a house. I don't want ANYTHING from them. They have NOTHING to give me.
Ray William Johnson just made a short video about a case in Austria were a man kept his daugher/ or stepdaughter (I don’t remember) captive in a cave underneath his house and she lived there for several years and had 7 kids of him. It was all discovered because one of the kids (that was 19) got extremely sick and he allowed the girl to go to the hospital. I would live a deep dive
It is undertrial. An undertrial accused is in a worse condition than a sentenced prisoner, in India. A sentenced prisoner can work and earn money to buy nice things from the commissary; an undertrial prisoner is in the same prison like that of an accused minus the freedom to work and earn. The undertrial cases can last for 10+ years in India, and after the sentencing, the years in prison are NOT counted as the punishment served. So the lawyer has to file another petition and fight which will take another couple of years! Jolly is definitely not getting bailed out for if her bail was to be approved, it would have been by now. Her lawyer is only representing (not fighting for) her because it is a high profile case, and he gets the fame, as she has already confessed to soooooo many people that she might just end up confessing in the front of the judge one of the days!
Similar case happened in Thailand. A woman killed 14 victims and 1 attempted murder with cyanide poisoning. She'd been poisoning 14+1 victims over the span of 8 years including her own husband. She was caught last year and there is a CCTV clip of one of the recent victim fell due to cyanide poisoning after meeting with her.
The Koodathayi cyanide killings were a series of unnatural deaths, suspected to be murders, that occurred in Koodathayi in Kozhikode district in Kerala, India. The crimes were investigated in late 2019, involving the mystery of 6 deaths over a span of 14 years. The criminal cases drew considerable media and public interest to Kerala, and eventually led to the arrest of Jolly Joseph.
Stephanie, you are a very talented storyteller. Thanks for all the hard work you and your team have put into each story. Even the sponsors are heartfelt. I also love learning about Korean and other Asian cultures.
OH MY GOD YOU TALKED ABOUT THE JOLLY CASE? I'm so glad more people are going to be able to hear about this case, I was STUNNED when I first heard about this whole case and the details. There's also a good podcast about it "Death, lies, and Cyanide" and I was greatly disturbed knowing all the things she says she did
PLEASE SHOW THE PUBLIC BISHEMBAYEV'S CASE IN KAZAKHSTAN. HE'S EX MINISTER OF KAZAKHSTAN THAT KILLED HIS WIFE BRUTALLY. THE COURT'S ON HIS SIDE. COURT TRYNA LET HIM GET AWAY WITH THAT
The moment i watched the netflix documentary 'Curry and Cyanide' a few months back, I rushed to your podcast to see if you had talked about this case lmao. Thank you for covering this case. I'm Indian and this shocked everyone's wits when it happpened
@@DiMagnolia actually it was a norm to marry certain type of long distant cousins, in that part of India. This was very old tradition, that was slowly discontinued around the time this happened. Now its not a norm anymore.
❤️✨When do you publish your book, Stephanie? Or screenplay. I know how respectfully you cover true cases, yet you tell it like a story, and so well ✨❤️
My grandmother was indian and so is my entire family on my father's side. My mother has always wanted to take me to India so i can learn more about my culture, the good and the bad. I truly appreciate you covering this case, India is a beautiful place with beautiful culture, and people often use this case to discredit indias beliefs and traditions
this is abhorrent. how one person could do this to her own family and a two-year-old is despicable. for taking 5 innocent lives and that of a two-year-old baby, life imprisonment just won't cut it. but she should be given life, they should lock her up without the possibility of parole and throw away the key. she's as toxic as the cyanide that she used on her victims. this is a heartbreaking case. my heart cries for the little girl whose life she disrespected and took away just like that.
Thank you for brilight to these cases, letting the world know what horrible things the victims went through, and making sure these cases aren't forgotten
This happened in my state, when this was unfolding and I would see it on the news or hear from my friends and family I was so utterly shocked but to hear the entire story like this, this is absolutely crazy.
I watched this case on 3 different crime teller channels and even on netflix but still like to watch your videos because you explain everything in very detailed......
If I am understanding the family tree around 32 mins correctly, then they’re not really cousins at all. I suppose you could use that word in a colloquial sense, but they would technically just be people who share mutual cousins through a single aunt and uncle. For example, say my father has a brother (so he is my biological uncle) and he is married to a woman (my aunt by marriage), and that aunt has a sibling who is married with children. Those children share no grandparents with me and thus no DNA, though we both share one set of cousins through different lines of that cousin’s family tree. It’s still probably strange, sure, but I wouldn’t consider it marrying your cousin or even “distant cousin.”
Even though I watch most of the Netflix versions of these stories, Stephanie you just deliver the story in such a poetic way and I love listening to your perspective on the cases. ❤❤❤thanks for being a part of my daily routine. I love rotten mangos 🥭
TYSM for covering this. You make it easier for me too grasp the info. Im scared because my mom's side of the fam live near her house and they have the same name.
Listening to you guys is welcoming and super interesting. Like , long breaks or after school meet ups and there's Mango , rushing in the cafe and you're wondering what's wrong , did something happen ? , she sits down with us and starts filling in the gap of a story , a rumour that's been living in our thoughts eating away our time. That kind of vibes😌
The fact that she's from my state not to mention my CITY and the pink house is at a town near mine. The fact that my SCHOOL was right near the NIT campus.. It honestly creeps me out so much.
WHAT YOU MISSED OUT: Almost everyone who died left something for Jolly, money, property etc in their will. WHY DOES GENERAL PUBLIC THINK SHE IS GUILTY: Amongst everyone in the Thomas family, no one has any forged documents, is as scandalous as Jolly, smiles over their family member 's dead bodies, and have had affairs with brothers, but Jolly? She did! Also, we should not forget that Leela was suspicious also because every death that happened was in Jolly's presence. Jolly was around each one of these people when they died. No one else matches this timeline. She is definitely not framed!
I remember the first time this news reported on local tv. Me and my family were eating lunch and suddenly we all started talking about this incident. Koodathai was not far away from our place and it was a shocker how a normal girl born and bought up in peaceful high ranges could be this evil. Still when we travel through that area we talk about this case.
Happy Easter Rotten Mango family!!!!! ❤❤❤❤ I appreciate all you do and the community you’ve created, you all are so incredible!!!! Sending so much love 🐰🐇🐣
She lied about having qualifications and lied about a job for 12 years. She had at least 2 lives and had affairs and relationships with her own family members. She's a pathological liar and can't be trusted. These people go to any lengths to get away with their lies. They are dangerous. Where is the money she got from the "job" and what was she really doing all day?
Now that you mention it, it is very fishy that she all of a sudden was a provider but had no job. Maybe she got inheritance money from her past victims and used that. But still, what was she doing all day for 12 years?
@@Kayla-eh5fb they have a lot of property her both in laws were government workers so they got pension. She did not have to give her money which did not exist for anything and after annama's death she managed all finances. But still she had another appartment on rant in another city whuch nobody in the family knew about idk how she managed it and it is suspected that she went there in the disguise of being a professor at NIT to past time. She had a doublelife for sure to fund this money.
Is it possible that, while she was allegedly going to work as a professor for 12 yrs., she was having OTHER affairs and getting money from these other men?
As much as I know by reading a lot of documentaries and watching the show curry and cyanide she actually used to go to NIT's canteen and used to set over there for hours
The way people lie to people is crazy
“Why did she kill the innocent toddler?”
She killed her own dog and five other family members. Does she need a rational reason to kill a toddler? She probably got a kick out of killing people or something
I think she did it out of jealousy of the couple.
No
I am from same state of this jolly
Toddler is a next lever of psychopathy
She don't want to look after the toodler after sili's death 💀☠️
After watching the documentary and listening to Stephanie, I felt that the saddest part was Annamma Thomas, the mother-in-law, was punished for being a progressive and supportive woman. In a country where married women struggle to uphold their careers and interests, especially in that time period, she didn’t want ( whom she thought was ) a highly qualified woman to sit at home and idle away.
If Jolly wanted to stay at home to be a present mother despite her supposed qualifications, that would not be her idling away. It's messed up that Annamma kept pushing Jolly to work when they were well off enough that they didn't need the money, and even set up an interview for her without Jolly's permission?? If Annamma was forcing Jolly to stay home, everyone would be in an uproar
@@mangomochi7111 Jolly could have easily said that she didn't want to work or be honest in the first place and admit that she's not as qualified as she pretended to be. The only reason Annamma agreed to the marriage was that Jolly was qualified enough to work and maybe add financial support to her family. So everyone knew going in, including Jolly, that it was expected of her. It's messed up that she chose to kill instead of any of the other options. Especially when she pulled that fake job stunt later.
the mother in law sounded like a menace though. why was she demanding her to work after her baby was born. I'm not saying I agree with murder......that is awful what she did but I hate people who keep on pressuring someone to do something they clearly don't want to. either way, her crimes are not justifiable. disgusting for sure.
@mangomochi so jolly should just stay home, not provide anything to the family income, live off of Annamama’s work? The least she could’ve done was be honest and say she didn’t want to work….but she also lied about her qualifications and couldn’t work.
@@mangomochi7111 I heard she wanted jolly to be financially independent and she was also ready to take care of her kids
Letting your dog suffer for 4 hours from poisoning is disgusting. Then using it on your mother in law?? Your husband? Sick
she used cyanide for the husband, iirc. that's what it said on the original podcast for her story
She killed 6 people and we gonna name the dog first ??
@@HopeeInkyepp!!! Exactly!
@@HopeeInkyes dogs are important .
@@HopeeInk I think the commenter means that even after having watched your dog suffer for that long and seeing how excruciating the death was, you go ahead and use it on people. Like instead of going "Omg, that was awful. What have I done?" she was like "Ah, perfect!"
i was a kid when this unfolded. i remember when "cyanide jolly" became a joke among students. someone would ask you for some water, and once you give them a bottle theyd ask, you sure theres no cyanide in there??? and laugh around. i used to laugh too, because none of us really knew how scary the case was.
Ikkrr!! It was basically a joke for us tbh...but never knew that this case was THIS serious!!
Yea
Wow!! That is scary. There's so many things in our childhood that we laugh at but not understanding the story behind yet, once we're adults that's when we realize the meaning or the real story behind is beyond awful and terrifying!
Ik !! I remember, even now occasionally people do this.
Dude this happened so near to my city. And we would also say synanide jolly as a joke. There was even a tv show called koodathai jolly.
the thing about NIT: she used to go to NIT and have meals from the campus cafeteria (where all the profs and staff would have meals). the profs thought she was a regular worker and the workers there thought she was a prof. this thing went on for 12 years and no one reall knew what she did there. she used to just to go to the cafeteria and have meals and leaves.
and that is just sick! how blind are people? how did they no realise for straight 12 long years!?
That’s disturbing
@@disha0287 They have other jobs then to literally nose into other ppls work
Blind? To give them credit, in large organizations, it's EASY to be assumed as just working another department. Bc that makes sense. How would they know to consider that a person they've seen for TWELVE YEARS had no business there...
@@gamergirl4309 yes, but 12 years i just such a long period of time to go this undetected. she interacted with a lot of people and no one found that anything was off????
50:19 "What would I do without you, jolly?"
Live, Tom. You'd live.
I shouldn't have laughed but I did 😭
@@yjhult same ✋😭
@@vaishnavibhamble602 hello 🤠 baby
😂
Lmfao 😂😂
How anyone thinks they’ll get away with killing multiple people in the same family, let alone six, Is wild, especially their own family.
These people aren't smart enough to realise that. To even kill the baby is just cold hearted. Lmao definitely not the outcome she was hoping for
She did for a long time.
I wouldn't marry my cousin though
This is why people do not trust people
Criminals are mostly stupid. I remember this case where the wife managed to kill two of her husbands and gulped down the insurance money before being busted.
As a keralite, I was very young when this happened but I do remember the sister 'leela' having doubts and finally realising jolly is responsible for the murders . When jolly gets to know that Leela is on her back
Jolly trys to poison Leela with freaking cyanide as well!!
But Leela was lucky and apparently drank litres of water and escaped death
And the dosage jolly gave was less than the deathly dosage
hai mallu
😢
Actually the sister's name is Renji
how could you be a cousin kisser AND a serial killer...like pick a struggle
Girl true
XD
I'm not defending her at all because she is horrible but that is misinformation. He is not her cousin.. Roy is a very distant relative and Shaju is Roy's cousin, not hers.
@@oru6981the father didn’t approve of the marriage because she was related to the family
@@oru6981 I mean....that's still not great.
IMO, there is no question that Jolly killed the five adults because she had something to gain from each murder, but why kill two-year-old Alphine?
Because she didn't want to take care of the baby.
After marriage jolly wanted sanju's full attention and if that child was still alive he would care for his child that's why she killed alphine and also she didn't want to take care of her
Maybe there was some accidental cross contamination. I hope so. Hate to think that poor baby was killed on purpose.
Maybe she was testing if it was potent enough on someone who couldn't speak. Maybe it was collateral damage while she was coming up with her dangerous curry and if it was too noticeable? She couldn't exactly test it on herself.
My guess is that it was an accident where the two yr old got caught in the cross fire. like originally the curry was supposed to be for a different family member but the aunty gave it to her instead
The family tree in this story is making my head hurt lol
the time jumping is making my head hurt
I am so confused too
there's a Netflix documentary of you want to understand it better, but I think Stephanie explains it really well.
@Sarahlynn___ yeah...and there's a summary from an @angeldaniel7360 right before this account's comment. I believe it might help too
@@SarahLynn-h6swhat is the name of the docu
The majority of bodies in India are cremated (as per Hindu religion). It was because they were buried due to being Christians that the authorities even had the bodies to exhume to test for cyanide. It just chills me to think that the truth was so close to never being exposed.
If you are well off family with property even in hindu religion in kerala you can decide whatever most people do cremation coz they dont have enough space in property to use as grave as hindus dont have cemetery as Christians
I wonder how many times this has happened so far and nobody knows. Indians are 1 billion people after all and mostly Hindu. Sociopaths can be born into any family.
@second_lead_simp you're not making any sense Hindus don't need cemetery they do not bury the body rich or poor they burn the body at shamshan ghat ( cremation area )
@@second_lead_simp I believe it's not only based on the ability to do so with property, because in the village that my family is in, almost everyone has quite a lot of land in their home which they mostly just keep as an extended yard or if they have cows, for them to pasture. However, most families I know choose to cremate if they are more religious because it is seen as a way to offer your body to Agni, the God of Fire.
thats absolutely not true. no one sane is burying their family in the backyard for sure. Hindus cremate to return the soul to the cycle of life, and also to return the body to nature just to make sure no lingering souls take up the vessel for themselves.
crazy she killed 6 people bc she didn’t wanna work
Ikr? I mean, I hate my job, too, but I’m not willing to hurt anyone (let alone un-alive them) just to stay home with the kids.
My goodness, the way you tell a story! You're spellbinding, absolutely incredible! You're born for this!
The fact that i watched the entire docuseries on netflix and already know the story but will hear about it all over again just because stephanie is narrating it!
Same!!! 😂
She's an incredibly good storyteller.
ur the only one who had this timeline straight from the get go then 😅
What is the name of the docu
Same 😂
As a Keralite, we were all SO confused during the trials of this case because there were so many confusions during investigation
Heeyy kerelethil evdeya njn vicharchu kerelethnn ivarkk views koravaan nn
Why do Indians always say “as a ……”?? No one cares. Just say your opinion and leave.
@@khadeejaminna9606nopeee. Mallu here🙋🏻♀️
@@khadeejaminna9606aar paranjuu evida malayalikal indd. Plus ee videonta thumbnail kanadapo njn njetipoiii😭
@@hannahh1391 Sathyam njn eeh case Stephanie cover cheyyum nn vicharchilla . Kerelathil evdya
Apparently someone at the university she “worked” at said she saw her there every day even though she didn’t actually worked there, but it wasn’t questioned.
Like, how does she even get away with lies like this?? She’s not making any money-
She sat in the canteen.
All the family finances were managed by her and there was nobody left to ask her questions.
in india, in some college's anyone can go to college's canteen or cafe.....
@@0neepuOh yeah she was making money she had an apartment that she bought secretly and rentend. She would show up to her university everyday just to get people to see her there and believe her.
@@youtubeuser8816 I thought this is so for every universities, but unless they have a famous delecacy normally I don't see why one want to go there specifially for meal if one is not part of the university community, but perhaps I am exactly not a running aound poison pepople type hense I cannot comprehand such thing
i love how listening to stephanie's podcasts feels like gossiping with a close friend but in a professional way
I usually really enjoy Stephanie’s storytelling even with the skewed timeline as she ties it all together neatly in the end. But this time, even as someone who has watched the documentary, I found her entire narrative to be quite confusing. I’d actually recommend everyone to go watch the documentary for a way clearer understanding of the case and timeline. Also, Steph actually missed some important aspects of the case, like when Jolly faked Tom Thomas’s will which brewed Leela Thomas’s suspicions at the start.
I agree
I absolutely agree. This narration was reallu confusing. Its probably the first time i felt that with stephanie's videos
Remember Stephanie doesn’t do all this on her own, she has a team assisting. Also it is “her” narrative. I haven’t found it confusing at the half way mark. I haven’t heard of all but one ( orphan killer) and not found them confusing. It’s a story to me, I don’t need a timeline to follow this.
@@lammcmahon4917 okay
I don't find it super confusing, but it's definitely the most confusing case I've heard so far 😅
I'm from Koodathayi, Calicut - Kerala where this happened and this pink house is on the to my home. I was in Kerala for college at the time Jolly was arrested. Since then whenever I visit my home during the weekends and I pass by the pink house I get CHILLS. I get covered by a blanket of fear thinking of the people that died helplessly in this house. God bless em.
I thought Calicut was somewhere in Ireland.
I-@@chrishenniker5944
🤡🤡🤡🤡@@chrishenniker5944
@chrishenniker5944 bro its in India
@@S.Euphoria I noticed some Indian, Sri Lankan and other towns on the sub continent have names that sound Irish.
I am a mallu myself and I watched the Netflix documentary about this. I think it’s horrific that Jollyamma did this and the 6 people didn’t deserve to die in such a horrific and cruel way. Shame on Jolly…
I don't like jolly she killed six of her family members
What is the documentary called?
@Stay_Stray78 Curry & Cyanide: Jolly Joseph Case
@@Stay_Stray78curry and cyanide: the jolly Joseph case
@@Stay_4L1fe agreed
Praji Kumar, the guy who gave jolly the cyanide, is the one who pierced my ears and when i saw him getting arrested on news, i instantly took my piercing studs off and threw it away 💀💀( I was such a scaredy cat, lmao)
i would be prolly be scared to get another piercing for life
Oh my god
That IS Crazyy
Bruhhh are u ok😭😭😭
😮😮😮😂
When this case happened it caused chaos in our country.
Jolly was such a motherly figure, but she deceived everyone around her.
Thank you so much for this informative video. I really love this video.
A friend recommended this channel a year ago. I completely forgot about it and came back a year later after I moved schools. God, I miss her. I am glad I checked it out. Thank you.
It’s so disgusting killing a baby it’s sickening… but thank you for covering this case
I agree with you here my friend killing baby that sad to see
Learned it from Israel.
I don't know about the baby. I am not sure of this information but I saw it on another documentary that the baby's murder is not confirmed to be done by jolly and the father is suspiciously seems to be involved in jolly case. As he got married to jolly just after his wife died and didn't want any postmortem (to check from what she died from a report is made) after two members from his family died consequently. I hope that's not the case and I really hate pointing fingers and assuming in these type of cases.
It like why
What? Howw?! @@Rexorazor
Timeline of the crimes
In 2002, Annamma Thomas (aged 57), the mother-in-law of the accused, drank a glass of water after returning home from a walk. Immediately afterwards, she began to feel uneasy and dizzy, eventually collapsing on the floor. She was taken to the hospital where she later died, and the doctors declared that she had suffered a heart attack. In 2008, Tom Thomas (aged 66), Annamma's husband and Jolly's father-in-law, passed away after swooning and collapsing. Jolly Joseph was allegedly present at the spot on both occasions.
In 2011, Roy Thomas (aged 40), Jolly's then husband, died after consuming his dinner of puttu and chickpea curry. He was found dead in a bathroom which was locked from the inside. The cause of death was then ruled as suicide due to financial issues as the post-mortem report showed traces of poison. Roy's maternal uncle, Mathew Manjayadil, called for a post-mortem report and an inquiry into Roy's cause of death.
In 2014, Mathew (aged 68) swooned and died after Jolly allegedly gave him poison-laden whisky. The deceased Roy has a cousin named Shaju Zachariah. The same year, Shaju's two-year-old daughter, Alphine Shaju, died after "choking on food".
In 2016, Jolly allegedly gave Sily Shaju (aged 41), Alphine's mother, a mushroom capsule, which Jolly convinced Sily that it would help her with energy and depression and Sily died on the spot soon after.
In 2018, Rojo Thomas came down to Koodathayi and filed a series of RTI applications. From the government hospital, he received a copy of the autopsy report of his brother’s body. “When he read the report, he found out that what Jolly told us was wrong. Jolly told us he had food at 3.30 pm and hadn’t had food after that. But it was clear in the post-mortem report that he had rice and chickpeas curry at 8.30 pm,” said family friend Mohammad Bawa. “Acute cyanide poisoning can result in death in a matter of seconds. Cyanide does not accumulate in the body and so it is rare to encounter it in slow death cases,” explained Dr V V Pillay, head of Forensic Medicine & Toxicology, Amrita Institute of Medical Sciences in Kochi.
thank you I was confused about timeline
Thank you for this!! I I love these vids, but she goes all over the place and doesn’t go back to make it comprehensive.
Thank you for taking your time to type this, it helped me understand the timeline better. 😊
@@bjg04 agree. Her story telling was a bit confusing. She jumps from sub-story to another
Thank you for this summary❤
At 2:26 I believe the priest meant 3 people who LIVE in this house are gonna die. Which was her MIL, FIL and husband. So he was right, which is kinda creepy to think about.
In the documentary a neighbor of the family revealed that the well thing was something Jolly said to her and to prove it was true she said that a priest told her so. It's 90% another one of Jolly's lies
Thanks for covering this case. I saw the documentary on Netflix, but I still enjoyed the way you approach the case. I had to literally rewind and rewatch the interview part where they make the family tree connections between the two families. Mind blown. I hope there will be a follow up video as the case progresses down the line!
I'm a Keralite, and when I started the documentary, I was so confused because this seemed like it would be a rather popular case and I thought I've never heard of it, and 20 minutes in I decided to read the comments and the shock on my face when I realized this was THE infamous Jolly case was out of this world--
You missed these ....
•Jolly bought a small apartment where she stayed when she came out to work.
•jolly was fascinated with the thought of being rich cause her parents were poor and she was jealous of other rich people.
•jolly after annapama's death started taunting and bullying leela.
•jolly was only high school pass, she never attended college nor did she had any degree.
•jolly made false house will, which was on her name but leela caught her and they filed a case against her and jolly was almost prisoned but later on they stepback cause leela thought it will be hard on jolly's child to live without mother...
•Cousine marriage is common in muslims and sometimes Christine, but in Hinduism it is not accepted...
•Heart attack is quite normal in india my uncle,grandma and cousine had heart attack too, and this is why nobody doubted it here...
Agree with most. 👍🏽But cousin marriage is also present in Hinduism in a lot of communities, especially in South India. It's rare now but in my parent's generation I have seen many Hindu couples who are cousins.
alls true except for cousin marriage being forbidden in hinduism, the hindu gods Arjuna and Subhadra, Abhimanyu and Sasirekha are both first cousins and a couple. to this day, hindu cousin marriage is not uncommon.
Cousins by marriage, not blood, isn't even taboo in Christian America, so I don't really get the fuss?
Wait cousin marriage is not forbidden in Hindu I think cuz Hindus do marry their mothers side of cousins 💀
stop spreading misinformation .cousin marriages are prohibited among christians , but more common among hindus in south india . even in this case jolly and joy are distant relatives and shaju is joy's cousin not jolly's
As smn who resides in Kerala and has followed this news from day 1, I'm glad Stephanie covered it. At that time, Jolly was the talk of the town and my heart goes out to the innocent six souls. Hope they rest in peace.
In India confessions can be forced in jail that's why we don't consider confessions done in jail it has to be in court
I'm curious. How can you say you don't consider confessions done in jail?? Please explain. I'd like to understand. Thank you.
@@mhiadollxx8888India has a lot of corruption so I guess they couldn’t threaten or offer money to take blame.
@@mhiadollxx8888 cuz the police beat ppl up until they confess
@@mhiadollxx8888Hey! It's because the confession made in jail or in front of police can be due to coercion by the police authorities or jail authorities. Hence, it's only valid if it is made in front of the judge without any pressure.
@@mhiadollxx8888 actually in Indian law you can be arrested before evidence is even collected. Unfortunately it's the system we inherited from the British which is misused.
This case gave me chills. If she didnt get caught, she would've carried on killing anybody else who got in her way. But the murder of the baby finished me.
She is soooooo engaging!!! Best storyteller ever! When I feel alone I listen to her podcasts and it distracts me of my own thoughts
I come from Kerala where this incident happened and this case definitely caused a huge stir in people here for a long period of time
She presented herself soo "perfect" cant belive it.
So my uncles kids and her kids went to same school and she was a PTA committee member so was my uncle…they knew each other well and my uncle still can’t believe she isn’t a NIT professor…he told me her manipulation skill is out of this world…
Bruh that's crazy
@@abdev3941 everything about her is bizarre!!!!nothing was normal but she somehow managed to get away with it every single time …
😶😶
i was in that school
@@miiiiikaaaa woah …my cousin still studies in Alphonsa 😊the eldest is now in college,youngest is still there…
she poisoned her beloved dog just to see if it work and watched the dog died? what psychopath.
ur talking ab the dog she killed her own family 💀
Dude a dog still has a life even if it can't speak the language we do but still it has feelings stop thinking about only humans and think about them too
Straight up
I got most sad from the dog and kid being killed 😢
@@xyjfkrl007 We already know that DUH but obviously the dog matters to us
Well her murders did start with her trying to cover a lie about her education qualifications...and her goal wasn't to marry her own cousin...that was like a side quest
Roy isn't her cousin, but a distant relative
Normally I love Stephanie's story telling but this one was confusing. The timeline was hard to keep up and I kept getting confused.
I just can’t believe that some people have the audacity to do stuff like this
have you even watched the episode? it's only been posted 3 minutes ago
@@lindseymusimbi1684 yeah bro I watch it at two times the speed lol
@@lindseymusimbi1684Just by the reading the title it explains what the episode is about.
@lindseymusimbi1684 you do know it was already uploaded on Spotify right?
@@lindseymusimbi1684Spotify....
As an Indian I love when you cover Indian cases.
No thanks..
Sameee
@@pikachue602ban gaya cool?
@@haggerd5986 where do you think she covers the English translation of the news from??
Obviously BBC India..
And you guys know well how manipulative and distorted their narratices are . And if you don't know this small thing then you better stay under the rock you were living all these years..
BBC was created during the ww2 for spreading propaganda AGAINST their enemies like CARROT PROPAGANDA which you still believe in 😂🤣and as many quickly jumps to the assumption that the propaganda were only against Hitler for good like you guys do ,but hey you are wrong BBC was used against all enemies of UK back then be it France or the allied forces or the Soviet or againsts it's own colonies and still today it is a weapon frequently stationed at the shores of UK for the fulfillment of the vested interests of THE CROWN
yesss!!
i got a little confused with the timelines on this one, lol, glad your husband always seems a little lost at the same parts i do lmao, sending hugs to yall. I love everything you do!
Bless her husband for asking clarifying questions, because I’m always confused the same way he is
I think they do this on purpose; he plays the part of the audience insert, asking questions at the appropriate points so she can further clarify potentially confusing and/or complex parts of cases in an organic manner. It's smart writing and works very well imo.
@mygoldenwitch agreed. Sometimes the Panda plays 'dumb', but this time the timelines and family tree is genuinely confusing
Did nobody wonder how she got to be a professor at an engineering college with a masters in business/commerce? Science and engineering is a completely different subject from Commerce and no engineering college would hire someone without a science degree
Apparently, she wasn't teaching. She'll just show up at the school so that it looks like she teaches there then, She'll go to an apartment that she rented for herself and stay there till it's time to go home
It's the National Institute of Technology (NIT) , they have business management courses as well.
The toddler story hit me hard.
I remember when I was a toddler my mom and grandma were feeding me fish. I started crying and I said I am sure there is a fish bone in a piece that they gave me that they had checked and they dismissed me and told me to eat it even though I started crying.
And guess what. There was a fish bone and it got stuck in my throat. They gave me the inside part of the bread to eat, so that it would hopefully remove it. It worked, but still, it hurt like hell.
I can imagine that this toddler also could feel something was not right, but nobody listened to them :(
Jolly is not a cousin to Roy .Annama' s (jolly's MIL ) sister in law have a brother who is Jolly's father.They may be distant family but not cousins for sure.
Ohhh okay thank for the context
Yea I was about to comment that too! Don't know where them being cousins came from
Sister in law's brother would be Roy's father's brother as well and thus his uncle, which means Roy and his daughter would be paternal cousins. The only way they wouldn't be is if 'thar sister in law' was from another marraige or that brother being adopted?
@@aleenaprasannan2146 sister in law's brother is not Roy's father's brother.
Roy's Mom ➡️bro&wife ➡️ wife's bro ➡️ daughter= Jolly
@@Athullllllllll-f5x Oh wait...was that sister in law, Annama's brother's wife?
As a Malayali and long-time Rotten Mango watcher, I'm glad you covered this case. I was in Kerala for a visit once when she was arrested, so all the news covered it. All of Kerala's culture was represented perfectly, and yes, Onam is quite a fun festival for us. Jolly's entire case is scary; she killed her victims to keep her secrets and reputation, and it got worse when more people questioned her.
I have watched the 'Curry with Cyanide' documentary. I think the reason it feels extra creepy is because of the filming and editing. The filming makes it seem so ordinary, like a run-of-the-mill story with such crazy things going on. Also, the little sound effects were only the creepiest ones. Watching it was a very unique experience.
Love from Kerala
i know!! i always wanted her to cover this case :)
She gotta cover Narabali case next💀
@@amirwahd oh god. that was gruesome. Whatever happened to those monsters.... I wonder.
@@TM-wp8xy Still in jail "peacefully" and the same idiot defending Jolly is defending them :)
thank you for always talking about international cases and explaining cultural issues along with power abuse in these countries. it brings awareness to how its citizens deserve so much more and to the victims of these cases.
I have already seen this case in another true crime channel but I just couldn't stop myself from listening to Steph again❤
I've been trying to get several other UA-camrs to do this story for a year! Thank you for finally doing it it's a. Crazy story. I didn't know Jolly and hubby were cousins 😮😮 the other stories I heard we're obviously way different than you are telling it. I want to know more about her/jolly growing up. What made her a serial killer....
This happened in Kozhikode, close to my hometown. Feels so weird, didn't expect you to cover a case from rural India lol.
this case is pretty famous! they did it in netflix too
For what it's worth, Netflix covered it!
Koodathayi ippo international aan 😂
samee kozhikode ippum international aayi 🤣
Sherikkum paranja ithe keralayil aayirunnu enne aringappo shock aayi poyi
This case was extremely close to my home.When the news broke out, it was horrifying..
You are spot on about her lawyer too..despicable person he is..
This case is heartbreaking. Even the baby, my heart💔Evil does exist and here is a perfect example. Who needs enemies when you have family and friends like this…
my name is alissa to 😮😮😮😮😮😮
@@Biscuit-cy6sx No one spells it with an i, yay us 😂👯♀️
fr it’s always Alyssa
I guess you should have explained the family tree and the whole case a bit more chronologically. It got really confusing..
I think she misunderstood the whole "keep it in the family" quote....
Hey Steph!
I have a suggestion on a case from India
It's called the SHEENA BORA MURDER CASE
it's super super interesting and Netflix even released a documentary almost defending the killer bcoz she's now out on bail even after committing heinous crime
I hope you will cover this super mysterious case!
I saw that on Netflix I hated how it was defending the killer when Idk to me it was so obvious she did it.
@@Mary-em2jmagreed!!
She is on all the news channels trying to prove her innocence . Disgusting lady
I would also love it if steph covers this case ❤
You can submit suggestions on a form on her website, and link sources and stuff there.
Just moved into my new house. I'm exhausted and sooo grateful for this video!!!
Time to rest!Blessings all!🥰
Hell yeee 🙏🏽🔥
Congratulations ❤
If this is aimed at a certain someone who looks a lot like me, I don't know what you've been told, or what BS illusions your'e living under, and congrats if you just happened to buy a house, good for you, but I have been stalked by proxy for years now by people who I want nothing to do with, who people seem to think want to "give me money", or a house or whatever. And let me tell you. If they EVER contact me, or try to have ANYTHING to do with me, I'm calling the police on them. I don't want a house. I don't want ANYTHING from them. They have NOTHING to give me.
@@LMorningstar-yv8ouwhat r u yappin abt lil boy
Congratulations! Hope you have a great rest!
The fact that in the pic behind that bright sweet smile, lies the most disturbing story.
demonic
Many serial killers have a certain look. Like their hygiene is bad or they got the crazy eyes etc. But she looks really lovely and likeable. 😅
Girl, you know how to tell a story!!! I was hooked chile!
Ray William Johnson just made a short video about a case in Austria were a man kept his daugher/ or stepdaughter (I don’t remember) captive in a cave underneath his house and she lived there for several years and had 7 kids of him. It was all discovered because one of the kids (that was 19) got extremely sick and he allowed the girl to go to the hospital. I would live a deep dive
Oh God, the Fritzer case........really disturbing
steph's crime case narrations are soooo crisp, clear and intriguing to listen to. Love you stephanieee
The title already is horrific, and that she still hasn’t been given a correct sentence is terrible
It is undertrial.
An undertrial accused is in a worse condition than a sentenced prisoner, in India.
A sentenced prisoner can work and earn money to buy nice things from the commissary; an undertrial prisoner is in the same prison like that of an accused minus the freedom to work and earn.
The undertrial cases can last for 10+ years in India, and after the sentencing, the years in prison are NOT counted as the punishment served. So the lawyer has to file another petition and fight which will take another couple of years!
Jolly is definitely not getting bailed out for if her bail was to be approved, it would have been by now.
Her lawyer is only representing (not fighting for) her because it is a high profile case, and he gets the fame, as she has already confessed to soooooo many people that she might just end up confessing in the front of the judge one of the days!
u can never truly be safe as long as as ppl like this still exist it’s truly terrifying when you think abt it
Similar case happened in Thailand. A woman killed 14 victims and 1 attempted murder with cyanide poisoning.
She'd been poisoning 14+1 victims over the span of 8 years including her own husband.
She was caught last year and there is a CCTV clip of one of the recent victim fell due to cyanide poisoning after meeting with her.
I watched this on Netflix and I’m so glad to see you doing this case.
The Koodathayi cyanide killings were a series of unnatural deaths, suspected to be murders, that occurred in Koodathayi in Kozhikode district in Kerala, India. The crimes were investigated in late 2019, involving the mystery of 6 deaths over a span of 14 years. The criminal cases drew considerable media and public interest to Kerala, and eventually led to the arrest of Jolly Joseph.
That was another cyanide killing right. I heard the killer did it for gold but idk if we could believe her. Was she cyanide mallika?
It also brought out the national interest in this case after that.
Stephanie, you are a very talented storyteller. Thanks for all the hard work you and your team have put into each story. Even the sponsors are heartfelt. I also love learning about Korean and other Asian cultures.
After hearing about these cases I think I should be thankful everyday for not being murderd. 🙃
Being thankful is a bad omen
@@Steph-zo5zk now I'm scared even more (´⊙ω⊙`)！
Yet...
@@saturdayfever9691 Stooop! You guys making me paranoid ಥ‿ಥ
I saw this on Netflix. It’s so crazy. Like i can’t believe she got away with it for so long
OH MY GOD YOU TALKED ABOUT THE JOLLY CASE? I'm so glad more people are going to be able to hear about this case, I was STUNNED when I first heard about this whole case and the details. There's also a good podcast about it "Death, lies, and Cyanide" and I was greatly disturbed knowing all the things she says she did
PLEASE SHOW THE PUBLIC BISHEMBAYEV'S CASE IN KAZAKHSTAN. HE'S EX MINISTER OF KAZAKHSTAN THAT KILLED HIS WIFE BRUTALLY. THE COURT'S ON HIS SIDE. COURT TRYNA LET HIM GET AWAY WITH THAT
@@ravinuappuhamyYea but like this comment is 2 month old lol
@@ravinuappuhamy The comment is 3 months old. I commented before she put it out
"So.. shes sleeping with another cousin?" "Yea" 💀
Yup😢
Her ex-husband Roy was not her cousin and her current one is Roy's cousin
WAKE UP SISTERS! MOTHER HAS POSTED!
What abt us guys?
@@datdailykid7512 brothers must wake up too
@@ramizaashraf8581 we are awake
YESS
@@ramizaashraf8581brothers and sisters
i loved how she made her outfit and makeup pink themed
Thank you for covering the case. I requested this a few months ago. This was really haunting
The moment i watched the netflix documentary 'Curry and Cyanide' a few months back, I rushed to your podcast to see if you had talked about this case lmao. Thank you for covering this case. I'm Indian and this shocked everyone's wits when it happpened
Jolly really had a thing for cousins
I wonder if it was just a deep obsession with the power and money of the family or possibly also a f*tish
@@DiMagnolia actually it was a norm to marry certain type of long distant cousins, in that part of India. This was very old tradition, that was slowly discontinued around the time this happened. Now its not a norm anymore.
You'd be surprised to hear that 60% of marriages in Pakistan are first cousin marriages.
@@devapreethi4773 south india* not common in india
@aditisharma6951 they said that part of India
24:47 I KNEW IT, after the symptoms of the mom... Foaming at the mouth = Cyanide Poisoning
I love cooking curry. I will go make me some now!
yeah after the Bhopal case we all know
Also when she said almond smell I knew it for sure
it was completely given away when she said "bitter almond"
anyone with a habit of watching true crime probably perked up with that mention lol
@@anhithikoley5095 what's that case?
Plz tell
❤️✨When do you publish your book, Stephanie? Or screenplay. I know how respectfully you cover true cases, yet you tell it like a story, and so well ✨❤️
My grandmother was indian and so is my entire family on my father's side. My mother has always wanted to take me to India so i can learn more about my culture, the good and the bad. I truly appreciate you covering this case, India is a beautiful place with beautiful culture, and people often use this case to discredit indias beliefs and traditions
bro what this stuff happens everywhere
Too much gang grape
this is abhorrent. how one person could do this to her own family and a two-year-old is despicable. for taking 5 innocent lives and that of a two-year-old baby, life imprisonment just won't cut it. but she should be given life, they should lock her up without the possibility of parole and throw away the key. she's as toxic as the cyanide that she used on her victims. this is a heartbreaking case. my heart cries for the little girl whose life she disrespected and took away just like that.
Its 2019's case
Thank you for brilight to these cases, letting the world know what horrible things the victims went through, and making sure these cases aren't forgotten
This happened in my state, when this was unfolding and I would see it on the news or hear from my friends and family I was so utterly shocked but to hear the entire story like this, this is absolutely crazy.
I wish you narrated it a little simpler because right now I cant keep up 😭
I watched this case on 3 different crime teller channels and even on netflix but still like to watch your videos because you explain everything in very detailed......
If I am understanding the family tree around 32 mins correctly, then they’re not really cousins at all. I suppose you could use that word in a colloquial sense, but they would technically just be people who share mutual cousins through a single aunt and uncle. For example, say my father has a brother (so he is my biological uncle) and he is married to a woman (my aunt by marriage), and that aunt has a sibling who is married with children. Those children share no grandparents with me and thus no DNA, though we both share one set of cousins through different lines of that cousin’s family tree. It’s still probably strange, sure, but I wouldn’t consider it marrying your cousin or even “distant cousin.”
In simpler terms, it’s your cousin’s cousin from their other parent. I would say it’s relatively normal in many places to not even know them.
In that area of the world, a literal majority of people marry their cousins.
@@Valchrist1313that's not actually true but go off
Even though I watch most of the Netflix versions of these stories, Stephanie you just deliver the story in such a poetic way and I love listening to your perspective on the cases. ❤❤❤thanks for being a part of my daily routine. I love rotten mangos 🥭
U have a freaking talent for documenting ❤ u documented it perfectly
TYSM for covering this. You make it easier for me too grasp the info. Im scared because my mom's side of the fam live near her house and they have the same name.
Listening to you guys is welcoming and super interesting.
Like , long breaks or after school meet ups and there's Mango , rushing in the cafe and you're wondering what's wrong , did something happen ? , she sits down with us and starts filling in the gap of a story , a rumour that's been living in our thoughts eating away our time.
That kind of vibes😌
The poor tree that never did anything wrong. 😢
And poor Alfine, that little girl didn't do anything wrong. 😢😢😢
came home from travels, beyond exhausted and yet I’m still ready to watch Stephanie’s videos!!! hope you’re doing well Steph!!!
The fact that she's from my state not to mention my CITY and the pink house is at a town near mine. The fact that my SCHOOL was right near the NIT campus.. It honestly creeps me out so much.
Also the place where she killed Shaju's wife was at a dentist in my dad's hometown😭
@@ryujindaeng9094omg...
WHAT YOU MISSED OUT: Almost everyone who died left something for Jolly, money, property etc in their will.
WHY DOES GENERAL PUBLIC THINK SHE IS GUILTY: Amongst everyone in the Thomas family, no one has any forged documents, is as scandalous as Jolly, smiles over their family member 's dead bodies, and have had affairs with brothers, but Jolly? She did! Also, we should not forget that Leela was suspicious also because every death that happened was in Jolly's presence. Jolly was around each one of these people when they died. No one else matches this timeline. She is definitely not framed!
I live alone now and away from my family so I’m so glad to have this to watch on Easter when everything’s closed 🩵
honestly same 😅
happy Easter 💘
Happy Easter ❤ hope you have a great time
Happy Easter!
Same, couldn’t want to have it any other way! 🤩
"Listening for silence" the storytelling is impeccable ❤
If you write this book, it should be called "The Unforgettable Dish".
Yes 👏!
Or "The perfect daughter in law"
I love how she tells these. Shes a good story teller.edit i just finished listening this was a crazy one😂😂
I remember the first time this news reported on local tv. Me and my family were eating lunch and suddenly we all started talking about this incident. Koodathai was not far away from our place and it was a shocker how a normal girl born and bought up in peaceful high ranges could be this evil. Still when we travel through that area we talk about this case.
Happy Easter Rotten Mango family!!!!! ❤❤❤❤ I appreciate all you do and the community you’ve created, you all are so incredible!!!! Sending so much love 🐰🐇🐣
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