I love and truly respect that you went into the flaws of your theory. Many theorists ignore the flaws of their theory and present it as though it were a fact. You are amazing!.
I think the thing that always threw me for a loop with the needler was the fact that it also homed in on the Flood as well. Obviously most Flood do have metal in them due to being former creatures that had metal on them, but some of the Flood don't. The homing aspect of the gun is what always threw a wrench into everything since it was sort of inconsistent. Regardless though it has always been my favorite weapon across the many shooters that I've played. Well, besides the Hammer of Dawn that is. I have some fond memories with that one!
As in like the gears of war hammer of dawn? also I too like the needler...which was why I cried in the corner after hearing that you cannot duel wield it anymore
What if one of the gasses had a property that makes it drawn to heat? When crystallized with that substance and moving at that high speed, the slight heart seeking properties would be more prevailing, sort of how a wind will effect a moving bullet more than one sitting in a table.
+Joshua Day - Do creatures that are killed by the Flood still emit heat? That could be a possibility, but I guess I always just assumed they didn't really give off heat similar to how plants don't emit much either. Truthfully I have no proof to back up that claim though and it has been a while since I have dove into the lore behind Halo. Anyone remember any specific examples where they might have mentioned or implied they gave off heat?
If the fired crystals travel that slow all the time (regardless of crystal size), could you imagine how useless they'd be for shooting at vehicles fast enough to traverse the nigh-incomprehensibly astronomical void of space? You might as well send some troops in space suits with magnetic boots to go out and stand on the outside of the ship with a bucket full of grenades to throw at the enemy ships!
Yeah but the needler is so small compared to a gigantic gun on a ship, you would think that the velocity of a projectile coming out of a longer barrel would trump that of the needler which has virtually no barrel. I mean the needle rifle has a pretty fast velocity.
wait this just got me think how about a needler based cannon much bigger yet smaller than most cannons that do what needlers do except it has a charged railgun magnetic function if your clue I would be to so here's how it works what noggin just said but with a rotating barrel with accelerating charge plates using magnets to accelerate the projectile even further and at longer range and still using the basic functions with a bigger blast because more room and there you have it the needlers biggest younger brother the BFEMR needler cannon with up to five barrels upside down pyrimidine shaped and I also just blew your mind
Simple answer and commen sense answer. The material is a very rare substance found only on one moon in the entire universe so using it in ships would use a bunch of it and would be a waste if you could use a more efficient thing such as a plasma weapon instead of a physical projectile.
+Gnoggin Me just spit balling ideas here, but what if that scanner part you where talking about also when the gun is fired somehow tags the target your pointing at with some form of laser marker/magnetism? that would make the fired crystals hone in on the target, no?
If the ammo is so rare why is the needler fucking everywhere Also, I personally just think they were too lazy to give the needler a dedicated reload animation Check out SPV3's needler reload, that's what I'd expect from it
Lonely Potato planets and moons can range at any size so no need to assume a planet is always the size of our own moon. no a planet can be the size of Jupiter or Venus.
Not really. Silicon based life could look like crystal or rock, and gives more of a reason of why they might chase their target more than just "its a special mineral fond on only one world"
Silicon based life (that scientists theorized) isn't that much different then carbon based life, silicon just replaces carbon as a component of life, so it is impossible that those crystals were actually alive, maybe they contained nanites or something but they were not alive.
Ultimagamer NOt exactly. A lot of metabolic processes would be much defferant. Very long life spans, very slow reaction times. IF you look at a lot of science fiction literature, there's a lot of times where there's a plot twist where like the energy crystals you've been burning to power your ship were alive. Everything just moves so much slower for them they look inert to us.
Ultimagamer What if it's a colony of silicon-based bacteria that fuel an explosive growth rate by converting elements like carbon into silicates -- which is why they're tracking shots because they target carbon but not smart enough to go around walls because they aren't carbon-based as well as why the shots are moderately explosive or even able to be shot at all because it's the residual energy from the rapid growth -- and the Covenant tech simply lets the shooter feed what bacteria are left in the Needler with the material of their own body to reload -- spread evenly throughout the body so that they don't die at the same rate as their enemies that have vital organs targeted first and which is replenished later with rejuvenation tanks?
I remember a halo ce mod that changed the animation so you put a chunk of blamite into the top of the gun and then closed it, that should be the official reload animation since it makes more sense that way.
Clyde Marshall Yea was playing it the other day and it's so good. I love how there's 3 types of hunters and the new weapons are amazing. I would definitely recommend it as someone who play halo ce considering how much work was put into and how there's a lot of new content in it.
Grunts made the needler, yeah, the universe's most meanless, cowardly, stupid species made a handheld weapon so complex. No one understand how it works.(It is an old story lore, I'm not sure if it still is like that)
Using ingame gameplay to represent you as you delve into a game theory for said game is a very neat idea. You should do this more often with other games that you can. =D
I always thought of it as being a hot plasma liquid that when exits the front or top cools down externally fast into the shards. I also love your theory.
Pfft, the Covenant and their weak kinetic weapons! I challenge you to figure out how the Arwing's charge shot tracks it's targets! Or how it doing a barrel roll deflects incoming plasma fire! Good theory, though!
I found a glitch where, upon firing the Needler, one of the shards would travel extremely slowly, and it would only stop when it hit the thing it was aimed at, i.e. a crate.
Really good video. I don't care much for Halo but the sheer amount of work gone into the theory and the quality of the video is rare to see on UA-cam now
This whole video reminded me of the creation of "Plumbuses" from Rick and Morty. The word "Blamite" is like something Rick and Morty would come up with.
what i like about the needler is that the ammo is visible. that means you wont end up accidentally shooting someone because you thought it was unloaded
The gas propellant or rare gas could contain heat resistant nanomachines/bacterium/fungi that may be able to receive radio waves to allow slight changes in the course of direction. Kind of like when kids would jump from one side of an school bus to the next to cause an slight change in direction for the driver
*makes miracle of science "I did it I made a needler! Here you go little runt (that explodes if punched in the massive hump on your back and dies in one hit anyways) this is for you"!
For somebody who has seen/read and played everything Halo I am extremely impressed dude. This is well thought up and you get the point across fairly simply. The only problem I have isn't a problem with the theory, but you didn't give the audience, who may not be well versed in halo lore, the true magnitude of Halseys part in the universe. I would have said she was Mother Spartan. Creator of Mjolnir and the Spartans augmentation. But that's not to important to the overall theory, so great work!
H1 - magnum and sniper H2 - needler and sniper H3 - BR and sniper ODST - magnum and sniper Reach - DMR and sniper H4 - assault rifle and sniper i haven't played H5 because i'm poor and didn't get an XBone. i also rather like the Halo sniper. honourable mentions would be the shotgun, which is my favourite Halo gun, despite it's lack of pracitcality compared to the other guns.
Magnum pistol is harder than sniper headshot, but waymore satisfying. But I respect sniper, in objective oriented team modes, we need them, I'm just the guy who run front and clean the way for the guy who complet the objective, I don't care about dying if my team mates can survive after me.
Individu λambda you have a lot more faith than me if you're playing with randoms then, i rarely win a game with teamwork on matchmaking, i almost always have to lone wolf it unless i'm with my dudes.
Am I the only one who hates the way the guns sound in Halo 5? Seriously, the Needler sounds like a terrible child's toy instead of a terrifying weapon used to slaughter slow moving Marines.
People say that, but things really don't sound too much different to me. I went back to earlier halos and they have much more childish toy sound effects for their guns. I think it's just people trying to find more reasons to hate 343i.
+ThePedanticReviewer That's so true. The Bungie fanboys are coming up with as much reasons as possible to hate 343. You don't have to like Halo 5 or the new sounds, but saying they ruined the needler sound just to hate 343 is really stupid. Someone seriously said they hate Halo 5 because they fucked up CQB. CQB isn't even in Halo 5!
+ThePedanticReviewer Just because you lack the ability to tell the difference between Halo's weapon changes, doesn't mean there weren't significant alterations. Real fans know, and real fans never forget. We speak Truth without Mercy unburdened by Regret.
+Chillydogdude There you go. 343i wasted resources on designing really ugly armor and ignored older designs. CQB should be in the game but isn't just like playable Elites. Real fans don't look for reasons to hate 343i, they give them right to us. Ignoring the old crowd in favor of the 12-year-old Call of Duty focus groups might bring more casual money, but it ruins hardcore reputation and poisons quality. This is why Halo 4 sucked, why Halo 5 sucks, and why Halo 6 will suck. It's pretty sad when the HuntTheTruth marketing campaign is almost as long as the actual game campaign, and yet has a way better told story.
+zippo504 I'm not sure if you played Halo 5 yet, but saying that game plays like COD is so wrong. It's nothing like it. Also many people really like Halo 5's multiplayer now because we got and are still getting constant free updates. At launch it wasn't to good but we're getting so much stuff we wanted that many people really like Halo 5.
Terrific video. I've been thinking about this for years and I think the gas option might be correct. The original crystal could also be being heated up to a plasma then, like you said projected out while reloading(cooling into a crystal again when exposed to air), then be being reheated as it exits out the weapon. Crystals have somewhat strange properties and are often used in some circuits(I'm not sure whether we can program information into crystals, but perhaps an alien race could, especially since every crystal I know of has silicon). This might be how the information is stored. Potentially a simple program might be programmed into the crystal, the head of the crystal being the "eye" or color sensor, it could follow this path by modifying it's tragectory by allowing some of the heated plasma crystal to transfer it's heat to one side of the crystal or the other allowing for more or less air friction/resistance to a certain side. Oh, it's gotten faster maybe because Covenant coolant technology has been improving so max rate of fire was increased. Also the crystals look totally different in each game(especially since halo 1 and 2) perhaps the new crystals produce less heat, when turned to plasma, and now can be fired at a faster rate. Silicon perfect for programming Oxygen perfect for plasma
when my friends asked me how it worked i gave them 1 of 2 answers 1 being "Magic" and the other one "Its a game idk" but now ill just show them this :D great vid btw :D
Brendan Fligg Same. H2 was the best. But tbh, unpopular opinion but I liked ODST? I think alot of people see it like a halo game and dont properly see it as a spinoff.
The blammite could be a kind of smart matter that is composed of tiny nano machines and an unknown chemical compound that I presume powers the needler. It would explain why the needles can seek their targets.
Have u ever thought of nanites? That could be why the gas is able to receive information and target specific things like humans, but when u through a wall in front of them, the nanites dont know what to do and just. Die. Great vid by the way! I myself have also wondered how the Needler worked.
that was a great breakdown of the needler , i have wondered how it would work & that was a great well thought out explanation . i rarely enjoy gamer video's.all thumbs up
This was really cool. I think this was a great example of, "I don't know how it does it but this is what it has to do. As far as our knowledge understand."
Does anyone else take into mind that in halo ce (original) the crystals are a clear blue when sticking out the top. As you look down the part of the crystal closest to the gun is darker. Then the needles are purple when either fired or sitting on the ground.
The Bungie artist who invented the needler told me EXACTLY how it was supposed to work. This was when Halo was in pre-alpha development (working title then was "Blam" btw), so maybe they changed their minds. Unfortunately, that was almost 20 yrs ago and... I kinda forget what he said. I didn't know there was going to be a quiz. IIRC, there's a wheel of material inside the gun, maybe blamite (that term didn't exist yet, I think), and the wheel spins insanely fast, and when it's fired little chips are flaked off of the wheel and go shooting out the front of the weapon. No, that doesn't make a ton of sense. And yes, it doesn't explain the target seeking. Nevertheless, I'm about 95% sure he said that. I'm pretty sure he said more, but I don't remember.
Hey Gnoggin! Did you remember you made two videos about a Morph Ball from Metroid? The last one did explain about how it works when it turns it on and off, but it doesn't explain how the rest of it works, like how it moves, deploy bombs, cling to walls magnetically, etc. That would be cool.
Theory on the gas part: Easy, the information given to it in gas form, is not only held somehow, but is also converted into a quick acting AI-Light. This means, it knows where and who to follow but never has time to understand it's own lifespan. ALSO, the exploding/fragmenting part, because this stored information is not only data, but also energy, once enough of them gather, the energy contained is too much and breaks or in a lot of cases, blows up from overheat.
This hit the nail on the head, I personally thought the ammo as a slime or soft material, and when in cased in the mechanism it explodes out like hyper active play dough similar to gas but with a solid form, however your idea makes more sense
oh gods this is an amazing channel im really glad that i found it you make suck amazing and in-depth videos for things and give a good over view at least in a way that i could properly understand.
Its so stupid in the sense that u have no reason to turn the gas into needle form to show on top of gun, u can just have blocks of blamites and directly turn it into gas and shoot it
Elite: *makes needler* Also elite: look my profit overlords, I have created this powerful weapon! Profits: how did you make It? Elite: idk just put this cool shape and some purple rocks and gas and there ._. profits:............ *AMAZING*
How a gas could receive information: The muzzle of the weapon sprays the propellant gas, into certain parts of the needle as it solidifies, not just randomly spraying it into the firing chamber at random. The propellant coalesces in tiny gas pockets along the needle projectile these pockets break open as the needle flies causing it to alter its course. This explains why the needles explode after a while, the propellant hasn't entirely burned up.
Blamite is reactive on its own. In Cole Protocol it was addressed that it is a volatile compound that has a timed reaction after impact, and that it is particularly explosive when it comes in contact with organics and water, e.g. a soft target. and that large Blamite chunk could just be a 'seed' that the gun uses to grow the needles inside the firing chamber. And, as the needles are too long to just sit in the chamber, they poke out its back. The gas thing, aside from perhaps the propellant gas, is kinda weak in my opinion. It could be using the explosion of one gas to snap off a shard of the needles and propel it out of the weapon, further guided (and perhaps given a little boost) by a magnetic 'bottleneck'. Or magnets forcing a shard off and a gas doing the *poof* part. This would be supported by the fact that only about a third of each needle are consumed per shot. They're fed into the firing chamber as it goes along, shards would not need to turn much. And maybe the act alone of a shard breaking apart provides enough propulsion? As for the tracking point you brought up, that seems solid; A scanner in the gun magnetically guides the round to the target.
After the human Covanant War, the Sangli actually showed humanity a bunch of their technology and explained how it works. The rail gun act silly uses a lot of Covanant technology, so maybe it's possible that the hydra used simile science to that of the needler.
The needles are shapeshifting polymorphic like the mind stone from Avengers infinity war I think the reload animation in Halo SPV3 is much more accurate to that idea
It could be the various isotopes of Blamium behave in different ways. 5 bladders could be used. Two stable isotopes on top, two unstable on bottom, one for raw Blamium to be safely sublimated and sorted into the other four bladders. - The largest bladder, for the most stable isotope, has a porous skin on top so the more expansive isotope can solidify in a more space-convenient way, which make sense as it makes up the majority of each bullet. - The next, beneath it, contains a more electrically sensitive isotope that is magnetically charged to behave as temporary, long range magnets. - The third, on the bottom, contains an unstable isotope that reacts with air to create a propellant. - The fourth contains a very unstable isotope that will also create gasses in the air that react violently with each other. - Each bladder would be connected via vacuum tube to the nozzle where a magnetic charge will first create an outline for the bullet with the electrosensitive isotope. Following that, the propellant isotope and explosive isotope are funneled into place, as the stable isotope creates a shell. The bullet is then pushed out as the air begins to ignite the propellant. Finally, the strong electromagnets in the horns on around the nuzzle manipulate the trajectory of each bullet. - When recharging, you simply position the gun facing upwards to allow the currently gaseous element to move through the organizing tubes from the fifth bladder to the other four, and then reposition the gun facing forwards to allow the shell isotope to solidify up top to ensure enough Blamium has made it through and will finish moving through it's tube into the bladder. - This would effectively create a magnetic assembly line for the bullets as they move through the gun, with the controlled air intake being the primary inhibitor of speed.
just wanna mention that these gases probably turn solid when they get cotact with oxcygen or requires some other gas to stay gas and when it is realeased outside it turns solid and that also would make sence why they chose to have them stick out like that as a way to see how many shots you had currently.
+Em Killjoy That would actuelly explain why you have to reload. Lets say you have 200ml of liquid gas in your ammunition chamber. But you dpn't wan't to fire it all out. So you need a mechainism that splits of smaller amounts, as in forming your "bullets" in the way you described. There you have it. And as of why not do this on the fly? Simple, it would lower the rate of fire. So preparing some is tactically more advisable.
I really liked the machinima-styled presentation of this episode; it was like watching one of those _Red vs. Blue_ PSAs that +Rooster Teeth makes, except I learned stuff!
I kinda got a theory that makes a bit more sense. Maybe it's just a gas that freezes on the outside when exposed to outside air. Essentially making them hollow and filled with gas that expands rapidly when it gets heated. So you start with the big hollow gas filled chunk. Put it in the gun that's sealed from outside air. Flick it down and it pushes and separates the gas out the holes in the top which hardens on the outside creating the hollow needles. Now when the needle are fed back into the gun, it goes back into a gas form and gets blasted out the mussle at high velocity. The gas hardens on the outside back into the needle shape as it enters the atmosphere and impales the target and detonates from the heat.
Here's an interesting theory. How could energy weapons (such as the Fallout 4 laser gun) have kick/recoil? A lot of games have this anomaly where an energy based projectile theoretically should not have recoil, but they always do.
+Christopher Conrath the simple answer for the fallout laser weapon recoil is that it uses the same firing animation as the other guns. at least when it comes to what the character model is doing. But another answer could be an internal componant could be moving inside of the gun. maybe something that prevents heat build up. like an exaust of heated air being shoved out of the front of the gun.
+Holden Rice (Wafflemonkey) He solved the basics of how it could work. But the basics doesn't mean you'd be able to build it. it might not even be magnets in the gun in the first place. so again, he only went through the basics that Dr Halsey would have already figured out, But not much further. not the electronic componants that opporate the gun. part of the reason that makes the needler so baffeling, is the crystals themselves. as described, there's no moving parts in the gun itself. but the reason it works is because of the strange properties of the crystals it fires.
from what I can gather from the years I've played the games. the needles get pulled down slightly while a shard is shot off, this means that yes they are magnetized to an existent but enough so that small shards can be broken away from the larger one and launched from the gun it's self.
I live this video! It's very interesting, and my weapon of choice has always been the Needler. I'm just in love with it. You'll always have me looking for one, even if I have to put myself in great danger.
The mechanism of the needler is probably (my theory) heating up the substance up and that build up of gas adds pressure in the gun allowing the needle to exit the weapon. The blamite must have some kind of property that allows it to turn into a solid quickly. One reason for that is pressure. A gas that is pressurized hard enough can develop into a solid. Hence when the needle is fired, it has certain range before it "blows up". The mechanism in the weapon must have a heater to turn the solid into gas and then pressurizing the gas into a solid that can be ejected. To track a target is another story that I can not theorize. The tracking thing that you mentioned is probable and I agree with. PS: the tail of the projectile is exerted by exiting blamite gas from the projectile. I'm just saying :).
I love and truly respect that you went into the flaws of your theory. Many theorists ignore the flaws of their theory and present it as though it were a fact. You are amazing!.
That's why I really like Gnoggin!
JungleFevor cough cough *sans is ness theory* cough cough
I always thought it was some kind of alien porcupine that was weaponized.
me to
+Bomber Jac the needles did always seem semi-organic to me.
+Bomber Jac Hell yea lol. Harvested from fields of needlers or some shit
to me I thought the needles will come out the top and be pulled by wind XD
i always thought it was smth to do with the needles being snapped in half, then clicked back together when fired lmao
I think the thing that always threw me for a loop with the needler was the fact that it also homed in on the Flood as well. Obviously most Flood do have metal in them due to being former creatures that had metal on them, but some of the Flood don't. The homing aspect of the gun is what always threw a wrench into everything since it was sort of inconsistent. Regardless though it has always been my favorite weapon across the many shooters that I've played. Well, besides the Hammer of Dawn that is. I have some fond memories with that one!
As in like the gears of war hammer of dawn? also I too like the needler...which was why I cried in the corner after hearing that you cannot duel wield it anymore
What if one of the gasses had a property that makes it drawn to heat? When crystallized with that substance and moving at that high speed, the slight heart seeking properties would be more prevailing, sort of how a wind will effect a moving bullet more than one sitting in a table.
+SwankyBox SwankyBox! You're awesome!
+Joshua Day I was thinking the exact same thing!
+Joshua Day - Do creatures that are killed by the Flood still emit heat? That could be a possibility, but I guess I always just assumed they didn't really give off heat similar to how plants don't emit much either. Truthfully I have no proof to back up that claim though and it has been a while since I have dove into the lore behind Halo. Anyone remember any specific examples where they might have mentioned or implied they gave off heat?
I bet the Halo team is going to look at this video and say, "we need to update the forums NOW!"
+TezBotMcCrackDaddy That would be fun. ;3
How come the ships don't use giant needlers?
If the fired crystals travel that slow all the time (regardless of crystal size), could you imagine how useless they'd be for shooting at vehicles fast enough to traverse the nigh-incomprehensibly astronomical void of space?
You might as well send some troops in space suits with magnetic boots to go out and stand on the outside of the ship with a bucket full of grenades to throw at the enemy ships!
Yeah but the needler is so small compared to a gigantic gun on a ship, you would think that the velocity of a projectile coming out of a longer barrel would trump that of the needler which has virtually no barrel. I mean the needle rifle has a pretty fast velocity.
wait this just got me think how about a needler based cannon much bigger yet smaller than most cannons that do what needlers do except it has a charged railgun magnetic function if your clue I would be to so here's how it works what noggin just said but with a rotating barrel with accelerating charge plates using magnets to accelerate the projectile even further and at longer range and still using the basic functions with a bigger blast because more room and there you have it the needlers biggest younger brother the BFEMR needler cannon with up to five barrels upside down pyrimidine shaped and I also just
blew your mind
No, you lost me.
Simple answer and commen sense answer. The material is a very rare substance found only on one moon in the entire universe so using it in ships would use a bunch of it and would be a waste if you could use a more efficient thing such as a plasma weapon instead of a physical projectile.
: D It was a blast working on this video! lol thanks for letting me help out!!!
+Captain Poogie I co-wrote and edited the video!
+Skoopa92 Thanks for helping to produce a great video!
+Skoopa92 Thanks a ton! it was fun working with you! :)
Ironically this is a suggestion I sent MatPat a month ago. Looks like Gnoggin did it for him
+Gnoggin Me just spit balling ideas here, but what if that scanner part you where talking about also when the gun is fired somehow tags the target your pointing at with some form of laser marker/magnetism? that would make the fired crystals hone in on the target, no?
That Gas Magneto Scientist Chip-Talking Snake is the greatest OC ever.
Ah, the Needler, my favourite Halo weapon.
Loved the machinima! It reminded me of Red Vs Blue! Making this video just a little more Halo-feeling.
Nathan LaSart Moment of silence for the final episode.
fan9775 The final episode of what?
hughcri Red vs Blue
It isn't finished, though...
u mean blue vs red
BTW Austin, the phase transition from solid directly to gas and vice-versa is called sublimation.
+Brasilisk do you really think people will understand that?
i learned it in 9th grade biology
I assume people watching this want to your their gnoggin.
+Patrick Not star most of youtube consists of 3rd graders.
***** biology and chemistry go hand in hand. Also my teacher went off topic a lot
If the ammo is so rare why is the needler fucking everywhere
Also, I personally just think they were too lazy to give the needler a dedicated reload animation
Check out SPV3's needler reload, that's what I'd expect from it
Lonely Potato planets and moons can range at any size so no need to assume a planet is always the size of our own moon. no a planet can be the size of Jupiter or Venus.
As far as I know Balamite is actually an organic metal. Well elites say that. That's why high quantity of Balamite is usually a barren wasteland
the covenant can probably synthesize it. Makes sense really?
I always just figured that the crystals were shot between 2 flywheels, like a Hot Wheel track does. Blasted Video game logic!
What if they're silicon based life?
Not really. Silicon based life could look like crystal or rock, and gives more of a reason of why they might chase their target more than just "its a special mineral fond on only one world"
+I ARE TECH's #1 Fan I love how you lack any semblance of imagination.
Silicon based life (that scientists theorized) isn't that much different then carbon based life, silicon just replaces carbon as a component of life, so it is impossible that those crystals were actually alive, maybe they contained nanites or something but they were not alive.
Ultimagamer NOt exactly. A lot of metabolic processes would be much defferant. Very long life spans, very slow reaction times. IF you look at a lot of science fiction literature, there's a lot of times where there's a plot twist where like the energy crystals you've been burning to power your ship were alive. Everything just moves so much slower for them they look inert to us.
Ultimagamer
What if it's a colony of silicon-based bacteria that fuel an explosive growth rate by converting elements like carbon into silicates -- which is why they're tracking shots because they target carbon but not smart enough to go around walls because they aren't carbon-based as well as why the shots are moderately explosive or even able to be shot at all because it's the residual energy from the rapid growth -- and the Covenant tech simply lets the shooter feed what bacteria are left in the Needler with the material of their own body to reload -- spread evenly throughout the body so that they don't die at the same rate as their enemies that have vital organs targeted first and which is replenished later with rejuvenation tanks?
This is actually a really great video. I just wish the games animations showed you slotting blamite chunks into the weapon.
I remember a halo ce mod that changed the animation so you put a chunk of blamite into the top of the gun and then closed it, that should be the official reload animation since it makes more sense that way.
***** Yeah, I remember that too. Never played it but I saw the mod's trailer. I think it's SPV3.
Clyde Marshall Yea was playing it the other day and it's so good. I love how there's 3 types of hunters and the new weapons are amazing. I would definitely recommend it as someone who play halo ce considering how much work was put into and how there's a lot of new content in it.
Most entertaining theory i've seen in a while. I love your visual representation.
Very cool! I would've guessed, as well as the sword, were unstable(well, temporarily stable) plasma-charged crystals.
Well that actually makes a lot of sense
Halseys pissedd off that this actually could make sense
This weapon is by far my favorite weapon in the Halo franchise, also I discovered that they have a rifle variant in Halo Reach.
Grunts made the needler, yeah, the universe's most meanless, cowardly, stupid species made a handheld weapon so complex. No one understand how it works.(It is an old story lore, I'm not sure if it still is like that)
RaPtorteAm Don't judge the intelligence of the world's brightest scientists based on the intelligence of the average soldier.
BonzaiThePenguin L o L
Last I checked, the Elites built the Needler. The ammo for it comes from one of the moons from the Elite Homeworld
RaPtorteAm grunts are actually very intelligent. books and the movie show it.
Myknifehasabipod so just a bit too easily frightened?
I really like the thought that the Covenant has inventions that were probably made by a genius of the species, similar to Newton to us.
Nah most of it is reverse engineered forerunner tech
its basically an alien nailgun
+bobby jager Nail-ien gun?
+zippo504 ...Get out.
+bobby jager a nail gun... that destroys buildings...
That would be the spiker actually. It literally just shoots large, super hot double-ended nails.
Well the solid to gas is sublimation, however gas to solid is called deposition.
All i could think when i saw the thumbnail was: genius at work
Exactly!
He's aiming it at his own face.....
This can only end well!
Using ingame gameplay to represent you as you delve into a game theory for said game is a very neat idea. You should do this more often with other games that you can. =D
I always thought of it as being a hot plasma liquid that when exits the front or top cools down externally fast into the shards. I also love your theory.
Kinda what I was thinking
Pfft, the Covenant and their weak kinetic weapons! I challenge you to figure out how the Arwing's charge shot tracks it's targets! Or how it doing a barrel roll deflects incoming plasma fire!
Good theory, though!
I found a glitch where, upon firing the Needler, one of the shards would travel extremely slowly, and it would only stop when it hit the thing it was aimed at, i.e. a crate.
I always assumed the Needle's were some kind of weaponized lifeform.
Uh, it could work. The Scarabs are living worms so it's known that Covenant use small life forms.
Really good video. I don't care much for Halo but the sheer amount of work gone into the theory and the quality of the video is rare to see on UA-cam now
This whole video reminded me of the creation of "Plumbuses" from Rick and Morty.
The word "Blamite" is like something Rick and Morty would come up with.
It's actually kind of a pun. The prefix "Blam-" as in "boom" or explosion and the suffix "-ite" for its mineral form.
and it's a reference to Bungie.net forums, where curse words are replaced with "blam!" as opposed to other methods of censoring.
what i like about the needler is that the ammo is visible. that means you wont end up accidentally shooting someone because you thought it was unloaded
I thought the Forerunners invented needler technology, since the enforcers from Halo 2 use the same thing.
Jackals invented it. Forerunners have their own more advanced models using hardlight no solids or gasses needed.
Jackals did not invent the needler... The crystals are from a sangheile moon.
soul1d Yeah the Kig Yar are too stupid to invent something as advanced as hostile-seeking crystals.
Ethan Wagner its not that they're stupid, its just that they dont have the correct resource.
They achieved space flight before humanity. Culture and intelligence are two separate parameters.
It is the first time I actually see a good basic explanation of the possible inside working of the needler.
You did a good job.
I didn't know you play Halo! : D
The gas propellant or rare gas could contain heat resistant nanomachines/bacterium/fungi that may be able to receive radio waves to allow slight changes in the course of direction. Kind of like when kids would jump from one side of an school bus to the next to cause an slight change in direction for the driver
*makes miracle of science "I did it I made a needler! Here you go little runt (that explodes if punched in the massive hump on your back and dies in one hit anyways) this is for you"!
"What about the fuel rod cannon you gave me?" "It doesn't matter! This one is better!"
For somebody who has seen/read and played everything Halo I am extremely impressed dude. This is well thought up and you get the point across fairly simply. The only problem I have isn't a problem with the theory, but you didn't give the audience, who may not be well versed in halo lore, the true magnitude of Halseys part in the universe. I would have said she was Mother Spartan. Creator of Mjolnir and the Spartans augmentation.
But that's not to important to the overall theory, so great work!
Needler and Magnum Pistol are best halo guns !
H1 - magnum and sniper
H2 - needler and sniper
H3 - BR and sniper
ODST - magnum and sniper
Reach - DMR and sniper
H4 - assault rifle and sniper
i haven't played H5 because i'm poor and didn't get an XBone. i also rather like the Halo sniper.
honourable mentions would be the shotgun, which is my favourite Halo gun, despite it's lack of pracitcality compared to the other guns.
Magnum pistol is harder than sniper headshot, but waymore satisfying. But I respect sniper, in objective oriented team modes, we need them, I'm just the guy who run front and clean the way for the guy who complet the objective, I don't care about dying if my team mates can survive after me.
Individu λambda
you have a lot more faith than me if you're playing with randoms then, i rarely win a game with teamwork on matchmaking, i almost always have to lone wolf it unless i'm with my dudes.
Mikail Elchanovanich The thing is, in team objective modes, I don't random, I random in team deathmatches and free for all modes.
Individu λambda
that's the best way i think, BTB gets a bit tiresome with clans all over the place.
This is a really well made video, keep up the great work!
Am I the only one who hates the way the guns sound in Halo 5?
Seriously, the Needler sounds like a terrible child's toy instead of a terrifying weapon used to slaughter slow moving Marines.
People say that, but things really don't sound too much different to me. I went back to earlier halos and they have much more childish toy sound effects for their guns. I think it's just people trying to find more reasons to hate 343i.
+ThePedanticReviewer That's so true. The Bungie fanboys are coming up with as much reasons as possible to hate 343. You don't have to like Halo 5 or the new sounds, but saying they ruined the needler sound just to hate 343 is really stupid. Someone seriously said they hate Halo 5 because they fucked up CQB. CQB isn't even in Halo 5!
+ThePedanticReviewer Just because you lack the ability to tell the difference between Halo's weapon changes, doesn't mean there weren't significant alterations.
Real fans know, and real fans never forget. We speak Truth without Mercy unburdened by Regret.
+Chillydogdude There you go. 343i wasted resources on designing really ugly armor and ignored older designs. CQB should be in the game but isn't just like playable Elites.
Real fans don't look for reasons to hate 343i, they give them right to us.
Ignoring the old crowd in favor of the 12-year-old Call of Duty focus groups might bring more casual money, but it ruins hardcore reputation and poisons quality. This is why Halo 4 sucked, why Halo 5 sucks, and why Halo 6 will suck.
It's pretty sad when the HuntTheTruth marketing campaign is almost as long as the actual game campaign, and yet has a way better told story.
+zippo504 I'm not sure if you played Halo 5 yet, but saying that game plays like COD is so wrong. It's nothing like it. Also many people really like Halo 5's multiplayer now because we got and are still getting constant free updates. At launch it wasn't to good but we're getting so much stuff we wanted that many people really like Halo 5.
Terrific video. I've been thinking about this for years and I think the gas option might be correct. The original crystal could also be being heated up to a plasma then, like you said projected out while reloading(cooling into a crystal again when exposed to air), then be being reheated as it exits out the weapon. Crystals have somewhat strange properties and are often used in some circuits(I'm not sure whether we can program information into crystals, but perhaps an alien race could, especially since every crystal I know of has silicon). This might be how the information is stored. Potentially a simple program might be programmed into the crystal, the head of the crystal being the "eye" or color sensor, it could follow this path by modifying it's tragectory by allowing some of the heated plasma crystal to transfer it's heat to one side of the crystal or the other allowing for more or less air friction/resistance to a certain side.
Oh, it's gotten faster maybe because Covenant coolant technology has been improving so max rate of fire was increased. Also the crystals look totally different in each game(especially since halo 1 and 2) perhaps the new crystals produce less heat, when turned to plasma, and now can be fired at a faster rate.
Silicon perfect for programming
Oxygen perfect for plasma
maybe the Blamite crystals in the gun were mixed with nano-bots, but before it's loaded into the gun
But nanobots are used for medical purpose such as blood cells. The atoms of blamite are way too small for nanobots to stick on and give information.
first, nanobots can be used for other purposes other than medical, and second, maybe the nanobots use GPS to locate the target
glad to see you are feeling better Locksten, hope you have a good day
I called this gun the porcupine gun when I was little....
when my friends asked me how it worked i gave them 1 of 2 answers 1 being "Magic" and the other one "Its a game idk" but now ill just show them this :D
great vid btw :D
but hey! that's JUST a theory! A GAME theory!
lol
Thanks for introducing me to a great artist!! You know, Kubbi, the composer of the outro song.
God I hate that new needler sound...
+Storm Storkanus If it ain't broke don't fix it, they broke everything down to the SIMPLEST SOUNDS! Seriously though the sound used to be perfect.
Brendan Fligg So halo 5 was shit? I dont know shit about it.
Mainly due to being an xbone only title. Thought: why bother learnin bout it if im never gonna get it
I've heard mixed reviews but essentially if you're like me and you loved halo in the H1-H3 days then you'll hate it otherwise it's a great game
Brendan Fligg Same. H2 was the best. But tbh, unpopular opinion but I liked ODST? I think alot of people see it like a halo game and dont properly see it as a spinoff.
Until now, I had assumed the needles were essentially plasma-charged glass bullets.
I now think Gnoggin should make a cameo in RvB...
+Indigo Azai definitely!
yes that would be cool
+Indigo Azai Well its over so...
they might revive the show later to have a better resolution.
Noah Rooster You know Season 14's coming right?
I always wondered why they didn't use the reload animation that SPV3 uses,where the player opens the top,places a crystal and closes it.
Am I watching Gnoggin, or an episode of Red Vs Blue?
YES, ANOTHER RVB FAN
TUCKER DID IT
Syed Thaqib Ahmed Wait he didn't? What about the blue guy with the downgraded helmet holding the barrel to his face? The very Caboosey looking one?
I like the body acting in this as well. Very nice subtle touch but it does a great job.
The blammite could be a kind of smart matter that is composed of tiny nano machines and an unknown chemical compound that I presume powers the needler. It would explain why the needles can seek their targets.
Have u ever thought of nanites? That could be why the gas is able to receive information and target specific things like humans, but when u through a wall in front of them, the nanites dont know what to do and just. Die.
Great vid by the way! I myself have also wondered how the Needler worked.
This is one of the most interesting Halo in-depth videos that I've ever seen.
that was a great breakdown of the needler , i have wondered how it would work & that was a great well thought out explanation . i rarely enjoy gamer video's.all thumbs up
I like how caboose is just looking inside the needler not worrying about what would happen XD
This was really cool. I think this was a great example of, "I don't know how it does it but this is what it has to do. As far as our knowledge understand."
Does anyone else take into mind that in halo ce (original) the crystals are a clear blue when sticking out the top. As you look down the part of the crystal closest to the gun is darker. Then the needles are purple when either fired or sitting on the ground.
This is where the practicality of the Needler Rifle comes in, there is no tracking darts/shards/needles to worry about.
"Bio-magnetism. Seen it dozens of times, and it is REALLY hard to counter, believe me."
~Toa Mata Nui 9
The Bungie artist who invented the needler told me EXACTLY how it was supposed to work. This was when Halo was in pre-alpha development (working title then was "Blam" btw), so maybe they changed their minds.
Unfortunately, that was almost 20 yrs ago and... I kinda forget what he said. I didn't know there was going to be a quiz.
IIRC, there's a wheel of material inside the gun, maybe blamite (that term didn't exist yet, I think), and the wheel spins insanely fast, and when it's fired little chips are flaked off of the wheel and go shooting out the front of the weapon.
No, that doesn't make a ton of sense. And yes, it doesn't explain the target seeking.
Nevertheless, I'm about 95% sure he said that. I'm pretty sure he said more, but I don't remember.
A well thought out theory. Worthy of the The Game Theorist I'd say.
Hey Gnoggin! Did you remember you made two videos about a Morph Ball from Metroid? The last one did explain about how it works when it turns it on and off, but it doesn't explain how the rest of it works, like how it moves, deploy bombs, cling to walls magnetically, etc. That would be cool.
Theory on the gas part:
Easy, the information given to it in gas form, is not only held somehow, but is also converted into a quick acting AI-Light. This means, it knows where and who to follow but never has time to understand it's own lifespan. ALSO, the exploding/fragmenting part, because this stored information is not only data, but also energy, once enough of them gather, the energy contained is too much and breaks or in a lot of cases, blows up from overheat.
This hit the nail on the head, I personally thought the ammo as a slime or soft material, and when in cased in the mechanism it explodes out like hyper active play dough similar to gas but with a solid form, however your idea makes more sense
i was thinking it might have something to do with plasma but this makes a lot of sense
Nice machinima theory thingy dingy Lockstin!!!
Love how you started the video man!
oh gods this is an amazing channel im really glad that i found it you make suck amazing and in-depth videos for things and give a good over view at least in a way that i could properly understand.
Its so stupid in the sense that u have no reason to turn the gas into needle form to show on top of gun, u can just have blocks of blamites and directly turn it into gas and shoot it
The Needler might be the most underrated weapon in _Halo_. It's awesome.
Elite: *makes needler*
Also elite: look my profit overlords, I have created this powerful weapon!
Profits: how did you make It?
Elite: idk just put this cool shape and some purple rocks and gas and there ._.
profits:............ *AMAZING*
Well it works perfectly so you can't argue it's effectiveness
How a gas could receive information:
The muzzle of the weapon sprays the propellant gas, into certain parts of the needle as it solidifies, not just randomly spraying it into the firing chamber at random. The propellant coalesces in tiny gas pockets along the needle projectile these pockets break open as the needle flies causing it to alter its course. This explains why the needles explode after a while, the propellant hasn't entirely burned up.
Y'alls little subtitles are fantastic.
FINALLY SOMEONE EXPLAINS IT. I LOVE YOU.
that was funny informative and just fun to watch do some more like this if you can
Blamite is reactive on its own. In Cole Protocol it was addressed that it is a volatile compound that has a timed reaction after impact, and that it is particularly explosive when it comes in contact with organics and water, e.g. a soft target. and that large Blamite chunk could just be a 'seed' that the gun uses to grow the needles inside the firing chamber. And, as the needles are too long to just sit in the chamber, they poke out its back. The gas thing, aside from perhaps the propellant gas, is kinda weak in my opinion. It could be using the explosion of one gas to snap off a shard of the needles and propel it out of the weapon, further guided (and perhaps given a little boost) by a magnetic 'bottleneck'. Or magnets forcing a shard off and a gas doing the *poof* part. This would be supported by the fact that only about a third of each needle are consumed per shot. They're fed into the firing chamber as it goes along, shards would not need to turn much. And maybe the act alone of a shard breaking apart provides enough propulsion? As for the tracking point you brought up, that seems solid; A scanner in the gun magnetically guides the round to the target.
After the human Covanant War, the Sangli actually showed humanity a bunch of their technology and explained how it works. The rail gun act silly uses a lot of Covanant technology, so maybe it's possible that the hydra used simile science to that of the needler.
The needles are shapeshifting polymorphic like the mind stone from Avengers infinity war
I think the reload animation in Halo SPV3 is much more accurate to that idea
I like that machinima style.
Red vs Blue styled Lockstin! That's all I could think about was RvB throughout the video.
It could be the various isotopes of Blamium behave in different ways. 5 bladders could be used. Two stable isotopes on top, two unstable on bottom, one for raw Blamium to be safely sublimated and sorted into the other four bladders.
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The largest bladder, for the most stable isotope, has a porous skin on top so the more expansive isotope can solidify in a more space-convenient way, which make sense as it makes up the majority of each bullet.
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The next, beneath it, contains a more electrically sensitive isotope that is magnetically charged to behave as temporary, long range magnets.
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The third, on the bottom, contains an unstable isotope that reacts with air to create a propellant.
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The fourth contains a very unstable isotope that will also create gasses in the air that react violently with each other.
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Each bladder would be connected via vacuum tube to the nozzle where a magnetic charge will first create an outline for the bullet with the electrosensitive isotope. Following that, the propellant isotope and explosive isotope are funneled into place, as the stable isotope creates a shell. The bullet is then pushed out as the air begins to ignite the propellant. Finally, the strong electromagnets in the horns on around the nuzzle manipulate the trajectory of each bullet.
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When recharging, you simply position the gun facing upwards to allow the currently gaseous element to move through the organizing tubes from the fifth bladder to the other four, and then reposition the gun facing forwards to allow the shell isotope to solidify up top to ensure enough Blamium has made it through and will finish moving through it's tube into the bladder.
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This would effectively create a magnetic assembly line for the bullets as they move through the gun, with the controlled air intake being the primary inhibitor of speed.
just wanna mention that these gases probably turn solid when they get cotact with oxcygen or requires some other gas to stay gas and when it is realeased outside it turns solid and that also would make sence why they chose to have them stick out like that as a way to see how many shots you had currently.
+Em Killjoy
That would actuelly explain why you have to reload.
Lets say you have 200ml of liquid gas in your ammunition chamber. But you dpn't wan't to fire it all out. So you need a mechainism that splits of smaller amounts, as in forming your "bullets" in the way you described. There you have it. And as of why not do this on the fly? Simple, it would lower the rate of fire. So preparing some is tactically more advisable.
I really liked the machinima-styled presentation of this episode; it was like watching one of those _Red vs. Blue_ PSAs that +Rooster Teeth makes, except I learned stuff!
I loved how you filmed some scenes the game itself. nice thinking ;)
Nice job Lockstin! Great theory!
I didnt laugh at THREE impossible laugh challenge vids.
Then I saw the clickbait.
I fell off my chair laughing.
I kinda got a theory that makes a bit more sense. Maybe it's just a gas that freezes on the outside when exposed to outside air. Essentially making them hollow and filled with gas that expands rapidly when it gets heated. So you start with the big hollow gas filled chunk. Put it in the gun that's sealed from outside air. Flick it down and it pushes and separates the gas out the holes in the top which hardens on the outside creating the hollow needles. Now when the needle are fed back into the gun, it goes back into a gas form and gets blasted out the mussle at high velocity. The gas hardens on the outside back into the needle shape as it enters the atmosphere and impales the target and detonates from the heat.
Here's an interesting theory. How could energy weapons (such as the Fallout 4 laser gun) have kick/recoil? A lot of games have this anomaly where an energy based projectile theoretically should not have recoil, but they always do.
+Christopher Conrath the simple answer for the fallout laser weapon recoil is that it uses the same firing animation as the other guns. at least when it comes to what the character model is doing.
But another answer could be an internal componant could be moving inside of the gun. maybe something that prevents heat build up. like an exaust of heated air being shoved out of the front of the gun.
It makes sense from a gameplay perspective. But from a physics-based? It's illogical.
"O Sir Blamite, hear my tale of woe!" - The front of the Needler
One of my favorite UA-camrs makes a video on my favorite game franchise. Day = good!
Damn I like what you did with the machinima style. Good job!
I like the way the needler reloads in SPV3
I'm surprised scientists 500 years and the future can't figure out how these work but Gnoggin can.
He didn't solve how the needles track, bud
+Holden Rice (Wafflemonkey) He solved the basics of how it could work. But the basics doesn't mean you'd be able to build it. it might not even be magnets in the gun in the first place.
so again, he only went through the basics that Dr Halsey would have already figured out, But not much further. not the electronic componants that opporate the gun.
part of the reason that makes the needler so baffeling, is the crystals themselves.
as described, there's no moving parts in the gun itself. but the reason it works is because of the strange properties of the crystals it fires.
from what I can gather from the years I've played the games. the needles get pulled down slightly while a shard is shot off, this means that yes they are magnetized to an existent but enough so that small shards can be broken away from the larger one and launched from the gun it's self.
I live this video! It's very interesting, and my weapon of choice has always been the Needler. I'm just in love with it. You'll always have me looking for one, even if I have to put myself in great danger.
The mechanism of the needler is probably (my theory) heating up the substance up and that build up of gas adds pressure in the gun allowing the needle to exit the weapon. The blamite must have some kind of property that allows it to turn into a solid quickly. One reason for that is pressure. A gas that is pressurized hard enough can develop into a solid. Hence when the needle is fired, it has certain range before it "blows up". The mechanism in the weapon must have a heater to turn the solid into gas and then pressurizing the gas into a solid that can be ejected. To track a target is another story that I can not theorize. The tracking thing that you mentioned is probable and I agree with. PS: the tail of the projectile is exerted by exiting blamite gas from the projectile. I'm just saying :).
Fantastic video. Welcome back
Friggin great explanation!!! Nice outside the box thinking!