The coolest thing to me is how how Game Theory has evolved. MatPat's analysis, the graphics, the overall video quality, and then we get live features with experts and ridiculously accurate props. All for the sake of dissecting aspects of video games in order to determine validity. MatPat, keep on keeping on.
+Dalek Caan I've already factored in the inevitable decline in hot-button topic fodder. It's what happens when you have a semi-consistent content schedule. Content creators just have to roll with the punches. And for that, I respect MatPat.
+Andrew Wirawan And? He could just made the video like any other, but just saying that he was sponsored by Microsoft, but instead he took his time to ask for a Halo suit and a body armor specialist only for this episode.
If Master Chief can flip a tank and is wearing a thousand pound suit of armor, imagine how much it would hurt to be punched by that walking tank of a man
Nepeta Leijon That's a good guess, but honestly I found the way that MatPat worded the questions was so cringeworthy and wouldn't be surprised if the expert felt the same way I did.
I think matts forgetting about the energy shield and how the melee passes through it allowing for a solid hit compared to a bullet stopping before he even gets hit
Because he's getting hit by someone who also has the strength to support that armor. That's why all other Melee in game don't hurt you as much as other spartans.
@@alexs07774 it seems pretty logical, just because an heavy weight boxer doesn't flinch at the punches of a light weight it doesn't mean that he can do the same against another heavy weight...
Commissar Purity and I think that might be the reason the gravity hammer is so powerful. Imagine if a grunt used one. Probably wouldn’t be that o.p. But a Spartan, or an *elite* could use it and it would be very powerful
He started out this video sounding like he was pretty together... and then as he stood next to the expert, he just talked himself into idiot status. Parts of this were cringe worthy. Also, the suit has no neural connection to the wearer's brain. If you actually watched The Fall of Reach, you'd hear Halsy talk about why the suit failed prior generations and why John was different. Thanks to all the upgrades John had as far as strengthening not only his muscles, bones, eyesight, and endurance, John has the ability to not have his joints snapped in half if the suit over extends or keeps going when it's not supposed to thanks to stronger bones, and stronger muscles. The suit is designed to take the movement of your body, and multiply it. Meaning, As you make a move, it makes that move easier. However, Human's frail bodies were able to withstand the start of that motion, not the ending of it. The Suit doesn't know when to stop trying to help you, and thus snaps your arm... or snaps your wrist... etc etc etc. That was the reason for giving Spartans all the extra upgrades in the first place. If the suit could do everything for them without the upgrades, then you could just be like Iron Man and anyone could step inside and be super. Lastly, To answer your question to the video ... which at this point after watching half of the video it seems like click bait... The reason you can Melee someone is the same reasoning as if we stuck an egg inside of Titanium cylinder. For reference sake, let's assume that there is padding on the top and bottom and between the walls and the egg. When the cylinder takes an blunt force trauma impact (being punched in the face), the inertia is going to be carried through the object. This means, that even if the armor were to stop the fact that you got punched, you would still feel the impact inside the suit because of inertia (Newton's third law). Do this enough, or cause enough trauma to the fragile object inside, and it will result in a broken egg... or in the case of Halo, A Dead Spartan. Now, think about how hard a suit can hit. Take that force and apply it going through another Spartan. Do you think that all that armor is really going to stop a Melee? No. Thus, there is no flaw. It's just Physics. The only way to completely negate physics is to keep an object from ever actually hitting you. If you can figure out how to do that, DARPA would love to talk to you, because you'd probably figure out how to end war... or make our soldiers invincible.
Correct. The power needed to recharge it would probably be exhaust the power pack. The power pack, that would already be under stress to just maintain the shield...
did no one consider that the man punching said spartan is ALSO a spartan? its like getting hit by a freight train when you think about how fast the chief can actually move in the books.
+Crafterzz Empiree Even in H1, Chief moves at a faster clip than any other ground unit in the game, including Elites. Canonically, he runs at an average of 15mph, I believe(been a while since I read the books). He's a fast sonofabitch for being a walking Abrams.
+ender25ish Also the fact that its multiplayer balance. It wouldnt be as fun a game if you had to grapple with someone for a couple of minutes before you could actually kill them.
I think the expert had the better idea. You are being hit by other people in 1 Ton Armor in Multiplayer. Each piece of armor is connected by flimsy material. One punch to the head with the weight of a spartan behind it is gonna give that 100 LB helmet a damn good knock, and the neck attached to it is unlikely to be prepared for that kind of whiplash.
+GlaciusTS totally. And let's not forget these suits have energy shielding which might affect slower and more powerful melee attacks differently than lighter and faster projectiles.
+GlaciusTS Finally someone points who's giving the melee attack! It's pretty obvious if you know some stories besides the ones shown in the games. Master chief almost broke his own hand the first time he saluted a higher ranked officer with his armor on
+GlaciusTS Let's not also forget that with an object of higher mass will cause more force to be applied to that region. Matt described the armor as being a "human with a tank strapped to them". Just imagine the sheer force if something the weight of a tank hits you as fast as a human punch. If Bruce Lee's punches and kicks could send regular people staggering (even flying) a few feet, imagine how that'd act upon other humans. Often, it is not the direct physical damage that kills people on high impacts. It's the sudden force.
+GlaciusTS And also, at the speed with which the hit coming from another MJOLNIR suit is coming, it's like taking a very hard 100 pound something that's going 100 miles an hour, or to give an allegory, a hit from the kind of stones launched by trebuchets to smash castle walls.
+Ngui Ngui Exactly, the halo armor also have offensive capabilities such as increased strength, speed and finesse. Which would add a good deal to melee damage against other armor wearers.
Have you seen how powerful a spartan is? If an enemy spartan decides to punch a spartan I actually do believe that the armors offensive capabilities of the enemy spartan will overwhelm the defensive capabilities of a spartans armor.
NASA conspiracy theorists: That was a UFO. NASA giving an actual true explanation: Well actually it was a comet passing thr- Theorists: I KNEW IT WAS A UFO
sounds a bit like me, well in elementary i had a problem with the staff of me correcting and debunking what was being taught to us from the teachers like misconceptions and such, i believe people should know the whole, unabridged truth (but have the option to have an abridged version) and i did not want to let the kids believe false information, i had to go to the principles office with my parents 2 or 3 times because of that, i consumed vast quantity of knowledge in my first 10 years of life and i still like absorbing some everyday, even if for seemingly meaningless, not practical irl stuff.
"Without that armor, John is just as helpless as that screaming marine." false. The Spartan-II program kidnapped these soldiers since before they were 6 years old, and since that time they were trained to know ONLY war. And just before puberty, they were put under extreme physical and chemical enhancements and augmentations. Spartan-II soldiers had muscular enhancements caused by the blockers on a human's muscles being inhibited. They had a reaction time that was increased by 300% of a human's normal time, which allowed them to move with the armor and not try to counter the movement. Under intense stress, they can see the world in bullet time as well as real time. Simple UA-cam searches can confirm this as there are many many videos showing the un-armored Spartan-IIs capabilities. They were a force to be reckoned with even without the Mjolnir platform.
He clearly meant in relation to operating the armor. He said Spartans without the neural link in the armor are just as helpless as the marine that got crushed, and this is true. Spartans cannot use the armor without it being powered on and linked to their brain.
Matt also does not mention the augmentations at all during the entire video, unless it was in the beginning, which I missed. It seems as if though the entire thing is run by the implant in Chief’s head. But then again, this is 5 years old, and perhaps Matt wasn’t invested in lore.
Okay, this actually kind of drove me crazy and I just had to know how this actually works. Upon extensive research through forums and official halo media I've come to the conclusion that Spartans can operate the armor without the Link. No cannon source that I could find actually states specifically whether or not this is required, but it seems to be the case based on a myriad of other factors. Some such cases being Spartans literally removing their helmets and still walking around, and being able to physically probably carry this armor around without it assisting their movements. I've also found that the advanced Spartan neural interface was first introduced alongside the Mark V series of armor, which means Chief and many other Spartans operated their equally heavy armor without this insanely fast link, they used the same one as Marines (Maybe still better but not even close to the Spartan one). If this were the case, the marine should have had no issue. It has to be that the physical strain of using it is simply too high, and that a high reaction time is required. He still only meant helpless inside the suit tho since he specifically mentioned needing the neural link to use it, the whole video is talking about severing that killing the wearer since the suit would uncontrollable. (Which yeah is still probably wrong), But I'm sure MatPat knew Spartans were crazy strong, and I respect your passion for Halo.
Everybody seems to be forgetting the fact that every time a spartan is punched, it's either another mechanically altered spartan or 10-foot elite that is doing it. Naturally, this makes death a lot more likely.
+Rambunctious Gay yeah, when the guy who punches you has also a suit which makes him 10 times stronger it's easy for him. The main flaw of the suit is his enormous melee damage
+Dan Gómez elite are not stronger than Spartans, its the skill of the player that makes them harder. Plus it depends on what elite. There also difficulty to alter skill.
“Bla bla bla armor stuff” “Can you turn around?” Master chief who hasn’t paid attention and has no idea what’s happening: *s l o w l y t u r n s a r o u n d* “So this part is weak” Also master chief: Thank god-wait wut?
Me : *gets in a tank and shoots master chief* Master chief : Heh... you gotta try harder than that Me : *backhands master chief* Master chief : AGH! *ded*
Answer; Spartan armour is powered armour that greatly enhances the wearer's strength (they can flip over main battle tanks, for fuck's sake) and they die to one punch from *another spartan* only AFTER their shielding has been taken down by either other strikes or gunfire. Maybe one from the back by breaking the neck or spinal column. Against non-spartains they only get immediately taken down by an energy sword or a gravity hammer, both of which are extremely powerful. No other melee hits will take them out immediately.
+MGlBlaze Flipping tanks is what we call gameplay and story segregation. Seeing as a Scorpion tank weighs 66 tons, doing this is completely inconsistent with all other feats of strength performed by Spartans in-game and in the stories. Being able to flip vehicles at all was implemented with the Warthog and Mongoose in mind because those things have such a high center of gravity; this basically never happens with tanks outside of Forge mode. In actuality the armor's only supposed to provide a couple tons' worth of lift force, which is still probably enough to do some damage.
You would also need to take into account the fact that these are soldiers with the strength to flip vehicles on a whim. The force behind one of those punches could easily be the same as being hit by medium sized car or truck.
ShapeTick, "it" will survive but not the guy inside - just take a look at these bomb-defuse squads with their suits... The suit will most likely survive the explosion but the guy inside won't because of the pure force of the impact.
Cdtforerunner that was exactly what I was thinking. The suits were obviously made to boost strength and give more protection. The suits with their weight would also most likely have quite the lack of ability to accelerate, so the armor (and John's arm) would ram straight into the back of the enemy's head. (Also the reason i never commented 3 months ago when this first came out cuz i had no channel.)
I've never found it weird that the spartans can be killed with a punch from another spartan or a Sangheili. Seriously, these opponents are just as huge as Chief and in the terms of the Elites, even bigger. You know what a full bodied knight's worst nightmare was? A mace. A blunt object slamming into the helmet, causes blunt force trauma and brain hemorrhaging. Super suit or no super suit, having your brain slosh around after a literal walking tank just punched you into the wall isn't good.
Nice video, but you extremely overlooked the very clear and very obvious real reason why Spartans die in a two punches in multiplayer (it takes more in campaign usually unless it's a really powerful enemy on a harder difficulty). It's really because they're getting punched BY OTHER SPARTANS. Spartans along with MJOLNIR augmentation pack such a punch that the MJOLNIR packs a bigger punch than it can handle in return. It can't take what it can dish out despite its incredibly strong protection.
No, cause this is Spartan vs. Spartan. So it'll be as equal as a human vs. human or a snail vs. a snail. I was at first annoyed that Pat doesnt told the armorer guy about the fact of modified body of Spartans, but in the end Pat talks about it. So it wasnt the suit that was made for Spartans, but the Spartans that were made for the suit, as normal unmodified human would be crushed to death by the heavy and responsive armor. So they need a being that capable enough of enduring the crushing and able to sync with the armor. Born Spartans.
+Karl Marx but like I said the gameplay is with Spartan 3s and 4s and also the chip is in a slot in the helmet and not really so far into the head than you think anyway the Spartan 3s and 4s have weaker shields and armor while master chief is a spartan 2 which if you read new blood buck says that the Spartan 2s as Titans and Spartan 3s as gods and Spartan 4s as the demigods
This is nonsense. Apart from multiplayer not being canon, how can you you make a video about Mjolnir and yet forget how it massively increases the users strength? Getting punched twice by a Spartan wearing Mjolnir is like having a tank thrown at you (since in game Spartans can flip Scorpion tanks weighing 66 tons). That's it, mystery solved.
+Stop Motion Productions There's no reason to assume that it would be. In campaign you're capable of punching through the thick titanium armour of a scorpion tank in a few hits to plant a grenade, and if you hit it a couple more times the entire thing blows up. Mjolnir is way thinner than that, two full force, well placed punches would do it. Hell, if you targeted the spine on the less armoured back even one punch would do it.
I swear, the armor expert looked like he wanted to stab Matt in the "armor piece." Sry Matt, but irl I think all the experts kinda find you annoying, because you compare it to video games and make puns, and they're super serious about it,
+Link Mine craft (Crepe De Crepe) Lol I was thinking the same thing. You can't complain though because many hours of each day he is making videos for us, not socializing with people. He tries to make jokes that we would understand, but the experts honestly just want to get rid of him.
+Link Mine craft (Crepe De Crepe) I have to agree, The expert had one of those looks on his face where he was annoyed. If you were to have a more serious person do this video it would probably have ended better.
+Link Mine craft (Crepe De Crepe) I honestly think most experts don't take UA-cam seriously and don't know how to act on camera for it. I would assume Matt tells them everything in advance, including how he wants to teach real world information through UA-cam and video game interest. We don't get to see before and after reactions, we see an expert who isn't aware of UA-cam and video game communities; how seriously does the community/viewer take his, how you should he joke, is it more documentary or comedy, ect.
Imagine a bullet proof shower curtain literally running thru a battle field. Edit: I posted this comment a year ago and I'm just now noticing it has 1.4k likes
The suit is waterproof, I dont actually know from where in the Halo universe the idea that is isnt waterproof would have come from, a Spartan can survive in outer space in their suit, theyre air-tight.
The closest thing to not being waterproof is that you cannot swim while wearing the suit, which is why during gameplay you die by falling into deep water, woulndt actually kill the Spartan theyd just have to slowly walk along the sea/river bed to get out.
I don't know why the Body Armor Specialist said the curtain would take away from the look, I love to see a Battle Kilt like the Clone troopers on Chief.
Its also power armor, Chief with the suit on has enough strength to lift a several tonne tank up and even punch a car onto its side. Spartans aren't just punching somebody, they're effectively hitting another being with the same kinetic energy a car crash might have, of course that'd kill somebody, no suit of armor has safeguards to dodge that kind of kinetic energy spread over that wide an area. Seriously Matt, how did you miss that, the same book you're quoting even talks about this.
I believe he discarded this considering the armor was able to survive and maintain the wearer safe after literally falling from space. A car crash can't compare to that. I apologize if this sounds weird, but I can't find the words I need xP
+sleepybird09 it depends on how he falls as well. If he would have went head first how high do you think his chances of survival would have been? Even then he had a chance of dying actually in that fall as well and was lucky to live that is how I see it anyway. In the end it all depends on the force and where that force is being applied if enough of it is applied anything can happen.
The first segment were you were saying you couldn't aim with the rifle cuz they kept moving was so relatable, takes a lot of practice to snipe someone in multiplayer
okay so i feel like he's missing the fact that they're always dealing with enhanced enemies as well, which would be significant because of the larger punch power
I dont think we need a whole video about it, if we're talking about the doom slayer then master chief is losing, BUT if we're talking about the doom guy from the older doom games then master chief is winning
Exactly, the Doom Guy now has been augmented by the maykr artifact so Chief winning against him is impossible, but if it's the Doom Guy before, which he's still just a veteran marine (with a lot of rage) then Chief will win.
I think one thing you're not touching on that should be considered relevant is the relative forces involved in these punches. A person's punching power can be deadly to others if you're talking about a strong person hitting you in the wrong place, but there's no human being that could punch with the force of a 1000 pound suit + body enhancements + extra strength from the suit itself. Canonically, the force involved from that would be like getting hit by a car on the surface area of a fist. That would kill anybody instantly, neural link or not!Unlike taking bullets/other shots, which are relatively light, the acceleration/momentum from getting your head nailed by such a strike would only partially be cushioned by armor...and you need that to be a pretty freaking huge "part" or it would fracture the skull. If we're going to accept the stats on these suits at all, there's no getting around that a punch from one would carry blunt tremendous blunt force trauma greater than most of the game's weapons (and stuff like rockets can and do 1-shot you also, in contrast with bullets)
+TheMelnTeam Nah, professional boxers can hit with roughly the force of being in a car crash. Spartan in the current armor are able to lift something like 5-8 tons, and move and a _very_ fast speed. Probably more like getting hit by a cannon ball to be honest.
Jane Murphy I'm not talking about "being in a car crash" with boxing glove type force, I'm talking about literally being *hit* by the car, as a pedestrian, on the surface area of a fist :D. Cannon ball analogy works too.
TheMelnTeam Don't forget said fist is covered in a gauntlet made out of the same titanium as well. :p And human getting hit by that would probably get their everything broken, and possibly have a fist sticking out of the other side of their body to be honest.
+Jane Murphy Even more than that. When you consider most often these attacks come while running, and even accelerate you in the direction of the target at a speed equal to the basic sprint speed in the game. Your punches are almost always at around 50 mph (basing it off of Chief's top run speeds) That's 1000 tons, coming at 50mph + whatever the speed of the punch is. And 100% of the energy is transfered (you stop moving after a melee) into the area of a single fist. Most of it isn't physically possible to begin with, but going with the whole "game physics allows anything" cop out, that's enough force to punch down a building if you wanted. I just put these numbers into a force calculator, and the force of 1 punch would be over 5 times greater than the force of a sniper shot at close range. Book physics would obviously lower that, because it doesn't have to worry about gameplay, but that's what's happening in-game when you punch someone.
YuutakaIzumi To help with your calculations a bit. Usain Bolt ran around 28 MPH in his sprint, Master chief was around 60-70 mph. So roughly double the speed. A fastball pitcher throws a baseball around 100-105mph, so a spartan punch would likely be around 200mph + 50-70 from sprinting as fast as possible.
Mother of God... the horror... all the people I've meleed... you're saying they didn't die? they just couldn't move the suit anymore??? I left thousands on the battlefield... not even dead, but I'm sure they died... trapped in thousand-pound suits....
5:17 as someone from someone in the future: the titanium nanocomposite material is actually pure titanium but it requires power to move the titanium at all
Good idea. Now for the maths. I'm only 10 so I'm going to say its probably hard to divide dmrs by the same amount as dividing armour. Divide dmrs by 1000% (example) and divide spartan armour by 1000%. Would a dmr end up as a rapidstrike cs18 and spartan armour markIV end up as cardboard? It sounds a bit far-fetched to line up so perfectly. Might be true though :). Good idea though
SalmonberryTeaGameFilmHD but would it link up and be divided by the same amount as the guns to make cardboard armour and bb guns or real guns with foam bullets?
+Saylem Olberg Well, he probably didn't want to come off as a fool or a joke; he was clearly watching what he was saying--both to "John", and to to the real-life expert.
+Saylem Olberg I think he probably felt pressured into being more professional around the specialist. As he knows he is basically a UA-camr and many people still do not get that that is a proper career. Other than that it could just be that because the specialist seems uncomfortable, it made him feel more nervous?
Also something why the Spartan armor dies to one melee: it is hit by another spartan, so with much, much more force than a normal human could even hope to archieve
+lowrider6217 Lol He was worried that he wouldn't be able to answer Mat's questions for not being into the Halo series. He seemed to lighten up the more he talked though.
Jesus... I'm not going to say anything because, you know, I think that people should be able to like what they want, etc. isn't this just asking for trolls and haters to come and prey upon you?
GirlsundPanzer Fan12 the overall shape is different, the filtration system, the visor the decals, and the way the head is placed on the armor are all different.
NearEDGE The suit is assembled around the wearer. The undersheathing can be removed, but the actual armor part of the suit has to be unassembled first. Also, they use catheters in actual real-life spacesuits, to allow the astronauts to pee during spacewalks, so it goes to reason that in 500 or so years they will have perfected the technology (as much as you can perfect something like that lol). As for how Cheif handles "number two", well... That's anyone's guess lol. Guess he just goes before each mission? That, or there's some pretty amazing waste recycling technology happening in there. :P
+Arun Hearn with the weight of the suits getting hit by one i guess the force could be enough to damage the neural translator theres not much to absorb the impact since the suits pretty solid apart from the spartan wearing its own movements everything else is like hitting a statue so hitting the suit from almost anywhere could still prove to be deadly
+TheOneChief bullets dont have much weight to them so a bullet hitting such a heavy suit doesnt translate into a force big enough to knock the suit but getting hit by a suit equal to the mass of yours should be
So hes basically saying that when the neural connection is broken the suit collapses, killing the user. Similar to a major car accident where the driver isnt killed by g-forces but by being crushed by the car crumbling and folding in in itself.
I loved the dead look in that specialist's eyes when mat said "Ballistic Maaask"
Yeah just noticed that
Yo 😂
Lol I was gonna comment the same thing
Ballistic maaaask
The good old days.
"Like a skirt?"
"Almost like a blanket"
"Sir, going blankie mode"
Samurai armour?
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This is so funny that it's scary and I may have almost had a seizure because of this comment
@@creeperhi7656 uhh, well i hope ur okay!
@@getdatpeppah6083 I am
The whole interview the ballistic armor expert is like "this guy just doesn't shut up, does he?"
Hahahaha That's so true !
+commentgirl234 IKR You could tell looking at him he is thinking "WTF type of logic is this guy using"!
+InsaneCraziness i know right hes thinking *Should I wait for this guy to shut up, or should I go?*
+InsaneCraziness 100% lol feel sorry for him plus all the lame jokes and video game references that obviously made no sense to him
+commentgirl234 be a ballistic expert they said, you work with experts they said
Am I the only one super impressed by how that guy guessed the exact canonical weight of the suit
Hopefully
No Anthony is is op lol, I was impressed too!!
Anthony is built different
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The look of disappointment on his face
TheModernChief 😂😂😂😂
I felt REALLY bad for that guy...
Look at this idiot
@@eacp9038 his like every Asian dad ever
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The coolest thing to me is how how Game Theory has evolved. MatPat's analysis, the graphics, the overall video quality, and then we get live features with experts and ridiculously accurate props.
All for the sake of dissecting aspects of video games in order to determine validity.
MatPat, keep on keeping on.
+Dominic Lira like
+Dalek Caan I've already factored in the inevitable decline in hot-button topic fodder. It's what happens when you have a semi-consistent content schedule.
Content creators just have to roll with the punches. And for that, I respect MatPat.
this was sponsored lmao
+Dalek Caan Why?
+Andrew Wirawan And? He could just made the video like any other, but just saying that he was sponsored by Microsoft, but instead he took his time to ask for a Halo suit and a body armor specialist only for this episode.
Whoever was wearing that chief armor was having the time of their lives
Bork Bork Mcdoggo you know it
Bork Bork Mcdoggo I know right
Bork Bork Mcdoggo ikr imagine that in real life. WAAAIT that exists. lol imagine that in a war.
ikr
Bork Bork Mcdoggo wish it was me.
If Master Chief can flip a tank and is wearing a thousand pound suit of armor, imagine how much it would hurt to be punched by that walking tank of a man
How many kilos is £1000
@@spooderboy 323 kg. Put Master Chief in the armor suit it's 453kg.
Very
maybe snap half of your body
if we talkimg about a normal human
That armor expert looked so uncomfortable during this video, like he wanted to punch himself in the face repeatedly for signing up for this video.
Nepeta Leijon That's a good guess, but honestly I found the way that MatPat worded the questions was so cringeworthy and wouldn't be surprised if the expert felt the same way I did.
MadDemon64 lmao that's so true. He's just like "what are these words coming out of your mouth? Stop it, please."
+Nepeta Leijon Or maybe he didn't like making a video with such an awkward video game nerd.
MadDemon64 You
Eh, don't feed the troll
armour expert looked so done when mat starts talking about a freaking gaming universes amour lore.
I saw that like mini sigh haha
Lol. Reminds me of my parents when I talk to them about video games.
@@DunjonMasterbro factual!
I love how the expert just gives that "just think of the money" nod when Matpat talks sci fi.
I laughed to much at this..
Ikr
That guy does not look like he's having fun. Like at all. Knew his stuff though, props to him. Did not expect to see a ballistic mask.
I'm pretty sure he's just uncomfortable in front of the camera.
+Skippy Rock ikr
I think matts forgetting about the energy shield and how the melee passes through it allowing for a solid hit compared to a bullet stopping before he even gets hit
Still drives the same point.
Thats only in cutscenes
Austin recently did a better version of this video in one of his SCIENCE videos
@@Stanleys_Bucket do you mean the energy shielding?
GAME THEORY
Because he's getting hit by someone who also has the strength to support that armor.
That's why all other Melee in game don't hurt you as much as other spartans.
Commissar Purity exactly
@@alexs07774 it seems pretty logical, just because an heavy weight boxer doesn't flinch at the punches of a light weight it doesn't mean that he can do the same against another heavy weight...
Commissar Purity and I think that might be the reason the gravity hammer is so powerful. Imagine if a grunt used one. Probably wouldn’t be that o.p. But a Spartan, or an *elite* could use it and it would be very powerful
Actually in free fall Spartans use armor lock to soften fall dam which doesn't kill them just hurts them alot
Have you forgotten elites in Halo 2? They kill you in one hit
He started out this video sounding like he was pretty together... and then as he stood next to the expert, he just talked himself into idiot status. Parts of this were cringe worthy.
Also, the suit has no neural connection to the wearer's brain. If you actually watched The Fall of Reach, you'd hear Halsy talk about why the suit failed prior generations and why John was different. Thanks to all the upgrades John had as far as strengthening not only his muscles, bones, eyesight, and endurance, John has the ability to not have his joints snapped in half if the suit over extends or keeps going when it's not supposed to thanks to stronger bones, and stronger muscles. The suit is designed to take the movement of your body, and multiply it. Meaning, As you make a move, it makes that move easier. However, Human's frail bodies were able to withstand the start of that motion, not the ending of it. The Suit doesn't know when to stop trying to help you, and thus snaps your arm... or snaps your wrist... etc etc etc. That was the reason for giving Spartans all the extra upgrades in the first place. If the suit could do everything for them without the upgrades, then you could just be like Iron Man and anyone could step inside and be super.
Lastly, To answer your question to the video ... which at this point after watching half of the video it seems like click bait... The reason you can Melee someone is the same reasoning as if we stuck an egg inside of Titanium cylinder. For reference sake, let's assume that there is padding on the top and bottom and between the walls and the egg. When the cylinder takes an blunt force trauma impact (being punched in the face), the inertia is going to be carried through the object. This means, that even if the armor were to stop the fact that you got punched, you would still feel the impact inside the suit because of inertia (Newton's third law). Do this enough, or cause enough trauma to the fragile object inside, and it will result in a broken egg... or in the case of Halo, A Dead Spartan. Now, think about how hard a suit can hit. Take that force and apply it going through another Spartan. Do you think that all that armor is really going to stop a Melee? No.
Thus, there is no flaw. It's just Physics. The only way to completely negate physics is to keep an object from ever actually hitting you. If you can figure out how to do that, DARPA would love to talk to you, because you'd probably figure out how to end war... or make our soldiers invincible.
a shield of superheated plasma would be plasma proof and melt anything coming near it
Doesn't stop inertia... Also how do you contain a shield. Only way to do it currently is to put it under pressure.
yeah but imagine the energy required to hold a plasma shield. it'd go down after a few hits and id imagine it's recharge rate is a literal recharge.
Correct. The power needed to recharge it would probably be exhaust the power pack. The power pack, that would already be under stress to just maintain the shield...
Sparatan117 thx, i thought i was the only one noticing this.
did no one consider that the man punching said spartan is ALSO a spartan?
its like getting hit by a freight train when you think about how fast the chief can actually move in the books.
yet in campaign chief hardly runs fast and stops
CORRECTION: he's being bunch in the face by a 747 at full speed, not a Freind train!
+Julie Tucker if I'm buying a starships worth of armor I better have plane-punch capabilities
+Crafterzz Empiree Even in H1, Chief moves at a faster clip than any other ground unit in the game, including Elites. Canonically, he runs at an average of 15mph, I believe(been a while since I read the books). He's a fast sonofabitch for being a walking Abrams.
+ender25ish Also the fact that its multiplayer balance. It wouldnt be as fun a game if you had to grapple with someone for a couple of minutes before you could actually kill them.
*MatPat:* "I'm a brave boy."
*Master Chief:* "[catches weapon]"
*MatPat:* "Not a brave enough boy for this!"
I think the expert had the better idea. You are being hit by other people in 1 Ton Armor in Multiplayer. Each piece of armor is connected by flimsy material. One punch to the head with the weight of a spartan behind it is gonna give that 100 LB helmet a damn good knock, and the neck attached to it is unlikely to be prepared for that kind of whiplash.
+GlaciusTS totally. And let's not forget these suits have energy shielding which might affect slower and more powerful melee attacks differently than lighter and faster projectiles.
+GlaciusTS Finally someone points who's giving the melee attack! It's pretty obvious if you know some stories besides the ones shown in the games. Master chief almost broke his own hand the first time he saluted a higher ranked officer with his armor on
+GlaciusTS
Let's not also forget that with an object of higher mass will cause more force to be applied to that region.
Matt described the armor as being a "human with a tank strapped to them". Just imagine the sheer force if something the weight of a tank hits you as fast as a human punch.
If Bruce Lee's punches and kicks could send regular people staggering (even flying) a few feet, imagine how that'd act upon other humans.
Often, it is not the direct physical damage that kills people on high impacts.
It's the sudden force.
+GlaciusTS
And also, at the speed with which the hit coming from another MJOLNIR suit is coming, it's like taking a very hard 100 pound something that's going 100 miles an hour, or to give an allegory, a hit from the kind of stones launched by trebuchets to smash castle walls.
Brian Mead
*points to what he posted*
c:
The logic in the melee killing in Halo is the offensive capabilities of the attacker, not the defensive capabilities of the victim.
+Ngui Ngui yeah, i mean, what kinda force would a elbow to the head do? i mean, those arms can FLIP A TANK!
so, im thinking they can snap a neck EASY
+Ngui Ngui Exactly, the halo armor also have offensive capabilities such as increased strength, speed and finesse. Which would add a good deal to melee damage against other armor wearers.
So a bullet doesn't kill a spartan instantly but a punch does?
+itheparrot A bullet doesn't jerk a neck but a punch does?
Have you seen how powerful a spartan is? If an enemy spartan decides to punch a spartan I actually do believe that the armors offensive capabilities of the enemy spartan will overwhelm the defensive capabilities of a spartans armor.
I like how matpat literally got an armor specialist to talk about halo
2015: What's the Halo armor's flaw?
2019: Can we survive high tech drones that are out to kill us?
Arctic Alpaca 2020: can we survive a missile coming from iran
EMP RIFLES!
Welp, time to break science and get the armor out.
11:47
"Shall we bring out masterchief's armor?"
Sur-
Cool, so let's bring out John.
*JOHN!*
NASA conspiracy theorists: That was a UFO.
NASA giving an actual true explanation: Well actually it was a comet passing thr-
Theorists: I KNEW IT WAS A UFO
I DARE YOU TO WATCH THIS WITHOUT AUDIO
This feels like that one guy in class that asks questions, just to confirm he's right
Now I feel ashamed of myself.
I’m so sorry that’s totally me when I deal with people who are wrong. 🥺
@@chatabluehawk7149 Nah, it's okay, sometimes to deal with those people you have to show them why they're wrong
What's that like? I'm f*cking stupid....
sounds a bit like me, well in elementary i had a problem with the staff of me correcting and debunking what was being taught to us from the teachers like misconceptions and such, i believe people should know the whole, unabridged truth (but have the option to have an abridged version) and i did not want to let the kids believe false information, i had to go to the principles office with my parents 2 or 3 times because of that, i consumed vast quantity of knowledge in my first 10 years of life and i still like absorbing some everyday, even if for seemingly meaningless, not practical irl stuff.
"Without that armor, John is just as helpless as that screaming marine." false.
The Spartan-II program kidnapped these soldiers since before they were 6 years old, and since that time they were trained to know ONLY war. And just before puberty, they were put under extreme physical and chemical enhancements and augmentations. Spartan-II soldiers had muscular enhancements caused by the blockers on a human's muscles being inhibited. They had a reaction time that was increased by 300% of a human's normal time, which allowed them to move with the armor and not try to counter the movement. Under intense stress, they can see the world in bullet time as well as real time.
Simple UA-cam searches can confirm this as there are many many videos showing the un-armored Spartan-IIs capabilities. They were a force to be reckoned with even without the Mjolnir platform.
Wow u good boi?
Bruh
He clearly meant in relation to operating the armor. He said Spartans without the neural link in the armor are just as helpless as the marine that got crushed, and this is true. Spartans cannot use the armor without it being powered on and linked to their brain.
Matt also does not mention the augmentations at all during the entire video, unless it was in the beginning, which I missed. It seems as if though the entire thing is run by the implant in Chief’s head. But then again, this is 5 years old, and perhaps Matt wasn’t invested in lore.
Okay, this actually kind of drove me crazy and I just had to know how this actually works.
Upon extensive research through forums and official halo media I've come to the conclusion that Spartans can operate the armor without the Link. No cannon source that I could find actually states specifically whether or not this is required, but it seems to be the case based on a myriad of other factors. Some such cases being Spartans literally removing their helmets and still walking around, and being able to physically probably carry this armor around without it assisting their movements.
I've also found that the advanced Spartan neural interface was first introduced alongside the Mark V series of armor, which means Chief and many other Spartans operated their equally heavy armor without this insanely fast link, they used the same one as Marines (Maybe still better but not even close to the Spartan one). If this were the case, the marine should have had no issue. It has to be that the physical strain of using it is simply too high, and that a high reaction time is required.
He still only meant helpless inside the suit tho since he specifically mentioned needing the neural link to use it, the whole video is talking about severing that killing the wearer since the suit would uncontrollable. (Which yeah is still probably wrong), But I'm sure MatPat knew Spartans were crazy strong, and I respect your passion for Halo.
Imagine being a grunt and 7 ft tall hunk of titanium is standing over you holding a shotgun.
As they proceed to shoot you and teabag you to dust
grunts on legendary mode: i have no such weakness
Wearing a skirt
even worse an 8 ft tall ball of meat with a warthog turret named Jorge
“Boo.”
Ballistic curtain, eh?
AY, LADDIES, MASTER CHEIF IS GETTIN' A BLOODY KILT!!! FREEDOM!!!
SCRUMPEH
Actually if you have seen Star Wars The Clone Wars, Captain Rex has a ballistic curtain.
WALLCE! FREEDOM!
+HaloCavest I was thinking the same thing but it does'nt protect the hips tho plus all arc troopers Also wear the curtains
+HaloCavest
They're Kamas, and they actually do protect a bit against blaster fire. ARC Troopers are the ones who get them.
Maybe spartans die because they are being punched by ANOTHER TITANIUM FIST!
😂 same tho
love your acount name
yea i agree I mean the Spartans wasn't even Melee extremely buffed up due to augmentation
It’s actually steel
@@funnydank4890 "I'm in love with an attack helicopter"
MatPat "And stop getting teabagged out there all the time."
Master Chief "And I took that personally"
Everybody seems to be forgetting the fact that every time a spartan is punched, it's either another mechanically altered spartan or 10-foot elite that is doing it. Naturally, this makes death a lot more likely.
+Rambunctious Gay yeah, when the guy who punches you has also a suit which makes him 10 times stronger it's easy for him. The main flaw of the suit is his enormous melee damage
+Rambunctious Gay And the Elite is stronger
Mjolnir armour improves the already high strength of a spartan 2 so it's like a truck hitting you
+Dan Gómez elite are not stronger than Spartans, its the skill of the player that makes them harder. Plus it depends on what elite. There also difficulty to alter skill.
+Rambunctious Gay Plus bullets are a lot less FORCEFUL in an area sense. A punch is liable to snap somebody's neck with that kind of power.
can you imagine how awkward chief felt just standing there listening to them talk
“Bla bla bla armor stuff”
“Can you turn around?”
Master chief who hasn’t paid attention and has no idea what’s happening:
*s l o w l y t u r n s a r o u n d*
“So this part is weak”
Also master chief:
Thank god-wait wut?
Yeah
yes i can
A while back I got to go to my dads office at Microsoft and see this exact suit. It was the coolest moment of my life.
The real life "my dad works at Microsoft" kid
@@5-Consecutive-Hairpin-Turns lol
@@RealSICKOMODEare you going to get me banned?
"Let's get john, JOHN!"
Chief:"whomst dareth summon the almighty one?!"
Me!
Meh
Them
*points at Matpat* He did it.
How was this made 10 years ago? When this video was made 4 years ago whaaaaa.
Me : *gets in a tank and shoots master chief*
Master chief : Heh... you gotta try harder than that
Me : *backhands master chief*
Master chief : AGH! *ded*
Chief: sheeeeet
Nuuu!!
Screw It ded
Screw It lol
**hits him with Wraith bullet**
Chief: lol
So, if you sever John's connection to his suit, the Iron Man becomes an Iron Maiden.
Jesus Christ
Oh lord
Bruh
holy sword
You aint wrong.
When you realize that the guy in the master chief suit is actually the size of master chief.
Wondering who out here be 6,11 in that mf💀
A true giant
Master chief was 7’ 2” tho
dude looked so annoyed lmao
first time I watched I noticed the same thing
lol i was cringing for him
+evon noy Must of been akward for Mat Pat.
that's what I'm thinking too. guys like omfg this nerd..stfu
Exactly
That guy must've been thinking
"Whatta nerd"
No offense
Bruh, you my homie!
That guy was definetly thinking "What a nerd." xD
I was thinking the exact same thing what a nerd (I'm talking about the game theorist)
+kyplay gaming Agreed.
MattPatt was like a kid in a candy store when he was talking to the armor professional. XD
+Red Bolt nah, he just loves his job
+KaiserChiefs That too. XD
Poor man found it hard to get a word in! ha, matpat barraged him with a wall of questions!
that excactly what i thought too XF
+JEAMiner :D oops ment to write XD
Consider that Spartans are strong enough to flip a tank, so if that strength is used on melee its much stronger than just a normal odst
That's what I was thinking too and matpat missed that fact
Answer; Spartan armour is powered armour that greatly enhances the wearer's strength (they can flip over main battle tanks, for fuck's sake) and they die to one punch from *another spartan* only AFTER their shielding has been taken down by either other strikes or gunfire. Maybe one from the back by breaking the neck or spinal column. Against non-spartains they only get immediately taken down by an energy sword or a gravity hammer, both of which are extremely powerful. No other melee hits will take them out immediately.
WHY IS THIS NOT OBVIOUS?
someone who references the books should immediately know this.
+MGlBlaze Flipping tanks is what we call gameplay and story segregation. Seeing as a Scorpion tank weighs 66 tons, doing this is completely inconsistent with all other feats of strength performed by Spartans in-game and in the stories. Being able to flip vehicles at all was implemented with the Warthog and Mongoose in mind because those things have such a high center of gravity; this basically never happens with tanks outside of Forge mode. In actuality the armor's only supposed to provide a couple tons' worth of lift force, which is still probably enough to do some damage.
+MGlBlaze
Well, even with that, sure they have superstrength but the titanium armor should cover that perfectly, specially if it covers bullets.
+MGlBlaze maybe its down an effect know as hydrostatic shock ?
+ACFxGAMING because if matpat just said that, it would be harder to make more money for him
10:40
His face is saying
“Why you touching my mask boi?”
117th like!
10:40
10:40
10:40
Actually though
I felt a chill go down my spine
He looked like :dam it are you a dam child
Master chief in a nutshell:
*Punches a nuke and lives*
*Shot a few times and dies*
there's alot of lore behind chief surviving the nuke
He had godmode
Anti hax bullet?
He got nerfed
I can punch a nuke and live, too. Punching it probably isn't enough to set it off.
rewatching this after the recent news, god I’m gonna miss you Matpat
You would also need to take into account the fact that these are soldiers with the strength to flip vehicles on a whim. The force behind one of those punches could easily be the same as being hit by medium sized car or truck.
Cdtforerunner but the armor is made out of titanium. It will survive a car or truck
ShapeTick, "it" will survive but not the guy inside - just take a look at these bomb-defuse squads with their suits... The suit will most likely survive the explosion but the guy inside won't because of the pure force of the impact.
i know that's what I said
Cdtforerunner that was exactly what I was thinking. The suits were obviously made to boost strength and give more protection. The suits with their weight would also most likely have quite the lack of ability to accelerate, so the armor (and John's arm) would ram straight into the back of the enemy's head. (Also the reason i never commented 3 months ago when this first came out cuz i had no channel.)
If spartans can somehow flip an Elephant I'm surprised they don't turn anything they punch into mist.
I've never found it weird that the spartans can be killed with a punch from another spartan or a Sangheili. Seriously, these opponents are just as huge as Chief and in the terms of the Elites, even bigger. You know what a full bodied knight's worst nightmare was? A mace. A blunt object slamming into the helmet, causes blunt force trauma and brain hemorrhaging. Super suit or no super suit, having your brain slosh around after a literal walking tank just punched you into the wall isn't good.
You are 1000000% correct
also we can introduce here the super strength spartans have, i mean, cmon, they can lift a freaking elephant (talking about the H3 transport tanks)
+Ben Kuyt Better question is why do the Spartans die instantly in a teaspoon of water.
+Kaito Suzuki Akira I like how they option to do it was "Press 'X' to fli- Wait, how'd you do that?"
Interesting....
"Balistic maaaassk" followed by the dead look of the expert almost killed me 😂
"Bulletproof material is a myth"
A few minutes later
"Titanium is bulletproof"
+linky pete Noticed this as-well, made me chuckle.
They say bullet proof vests are a myth, yeah, but are there titanium vests? If not, he was right.
Ah, thanks for the clarification. I didn't put two and two together.
+Isaac Torbett I think he was simplifying it.
He probably didn't consider titanium as a practical material. They were talking more about modern tech that exists today.
master cheif in all other halo games: dies by hit
master chief in halo 4: come at me nuke
Cortana protected him from that using the hardlight bridge she was interfaced with.
Matpat : "STOP MOVING"
that guy that plays as sniper :
"Me too man me too"
Same
Titanfall 2 or Team Fortress 2?
@@darthmaul197 lol i thought it was titanfall
Team fortress 2 guy. Hello mate
Nice video, but you extremely overlooked the very clear and very obvious real reason why Spartans die in a two punches in multiplayer (it takes more in campaign usually unless it's a really powerful enemy on a harder difficulty). It's really because they're getting punched BY OTHER SPARTANS. Spartans along with MJOLNIR augmentation pack such a punch that the MJOLNIR packs a bigger punch than it can handle in return. It can't take what it can dish out despite its incredibly strong protection.
Imagine MatPat's reaction if Chief took off the helmet and Steve Downes was in it...
Before reading: -_-
After: O.O
*cracking up*.
Now THAT would be awesome
I can just imagine mat pat walking out of the building while the armor expert silently whispers...
nerd
XD
+PersonaPro thats true man
+PixelMeat, expert. oh ok
I know right :3
I can't like this on mobile but yeah, he was thinking that the whole time
You should also take into account that it is other spartans with super strength that are doing the punching.
Yup that's what I thought
+Red Knight same that's what I was thinking. Ur using the same power suit to hit others so it would make sense 2 or 3 hits :/
No, cause this is Spartan vs. Spartan. So it'll be as equal as a human vs. human or a snail vs. a snail. I was at first annoyed that Pat doesnt told the armorer guy about the fact of modified body of Spartans, but in the end Pat talks about it. So it wasnt the suit that was made for Spartans, but the Spartans that were made for the suit, as normal unmodified human would be crushed to death by the heavy and responsive armor. So they need a being that capable enough of enduring the crushing and able to sync with the armor. Born Spartans.
+Karl Marx but like I said the gameplay is with Spartan 3s and 4s and also the chip is in a slot in the helmet and not really so far into the head than you think anyway the Spartan 3s and 4s have weaker shields and armor while master chief is a spartan 2 which if you read new blood buck says that the Spartan 2s as Titans and Spartan 3s as gods and Spartan 4s as the demigods
last I checked Chiefs armor isn't titanium
Imagine the dude surprised Matt when he was wearing the armor and just shot him where the armor is
What if he missed tho
Someone: hits masterchief in the back
The suit: *crunch*
People say that if you run halo and listen to the xbox very closely you can hear theses things: *Snap* *Crack* *Folding*
@@eisenkrahe7125 I know what I'm doing next time I play XD
Master chef: oh my back
This is nonsense. Apart from multiplayer not being canon, how can you you make a video about Mjolnir and yet forget how it massively increases the users strength? Getting punched twice by a Spartan wearing Mjolnir is like having a tank thrown at you (since in game Spartans can flip Scorpion tanks weighing 66 tons). That's it, mystery solved.
+J Ahem, weighing 66 tons of Dee-vine intervention!
Yeah but if you think about it the powerful punch is deflected by the powerful armor
+Stop Motion Productions There's no reason to assume that it would be. In campaign you're capable of punching through the thick titanium armour of a scorpion tank in a few hits to plant a grenade, and if you hit it a couple more times the entire thing blows up. Mjolnir is way thinner than that, two full force, well placed punches would do it. Hell, if you targeted the spine on the less armoured back even one punch would do it.
+J thats exaclty what i thought!
Not even the heaviest, you can flip the Elephant Vehicle in Halo 3
I swear, the armor expert looked like he wanted to stab Matt in the "armor piece."
Sry Matt, but irl I think all the experts kinda find you annoying, because you compare it to video games and make puns, and they're super serious about it,
+Link Mine craft (Crepe De Crepe) Lol I was thinking the same thing. You can't complain though because many hours of each day he is making videos for us, not socializing with people. He tries to make jokes that we would understand, but the experts honestly just want to get rid of him.
+Link Mine craft (Crepe De Crepe) I have to agree, The expert had one of those looks on his face where he was annoyed. If you were to have a more serious person do this video it would probably have ended better.
+Link Mine craft (Crepe De Crepe) I honestly think most experts don't take UA-cam seriously and don't know how to act on camera for it. I would assume Matt tells them everything in advance, including how he wants to teach real world information through UA-cam and video game interest. We don't get to see before and after reactions, we see an expert who isn't aware of UA-cam and video game communities; how seriously does the community/viewer take his, how you should he joke, is it more documentary or comedy, ect.
They understand his humor being needed to keep kids watching, but sometimes they get the painful cringes still.
yeah I agree
1 answer:
When a man with the strenght and armor of a starship punches another its like a starship going full speed into another starship.
Also to balance the game
And yet the fly like 2 feet after getting punch. But the impact is what's important.
... so both of them should die?))
It's not just the man. The armor actually makes him stronger and faster. So really it's like two starships hitting a brick wall.
Let's start a flame war, The Last Jedi.
"can survive a fall from space" very interesting
Imagine a bullet proof shower curtain literally running thru a battle field.
Edit: I posted this comment a year ago and I'm just now noticing it has 1.4k likes
more like a blaster komma, like the clone trooper commanders wear
@@matthewjohnson7273 exactly what I was thinking
@@blakethederg my mind jumped to a tactical kilt.
Ikr go clones
Bullet resident
Matpat sounded like a kid talking to that guy 😂
he talks like Jesse Eisenberg
I only updooted this to get rid of the 99 in my face and change this into 3 digit upvotes and making number 100
@@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind im sorry this isn’t Reddit. It’s not called upvotes it’s likes. Your welcome
@@fnpossession4424 i call it what I want. FROM NOW ON ALL UA-cam LIKES ARE CONVERTED TO UPVOTES.
@@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind i’ll give an updoot for that
I thought this was gonna be about how the suit isn't waterproof.
+HiIeric117 That would explain a lot of things...
The suit is waterproof, I dont actually know from where in the Halo universe the idea that is isnt waterproof would have come from, a Spartan can survive in outer space in their suit, theyre air-tight.
The closest thing to not being waterproof is that you cannot swim while wearing the suit, which is why during gameplay you die by falling into deep water, woulndt actually kill the Spartan theyd just have to slowly walk along the sea/river bed to get out.
+HiIeric117 i think it would be hard to swim with a 1000 pound armor attached to your body though ;)
+Keith Killner slowly?
Matpat talking ballistics is amazing to see
10:35 - 10:40 His face when MatPat puts on the mask is priceless XD
Jay Sam i saw that as well lmao
Haha
Oh god that was such a perfect example of speaking without words.
BallisticMaaaask
I don't know why the Body Armor Specialist said the curtain would take away from the look, I love to see a Battle Kilt like the Clone troopers on Chief.
Heck yeah! Get Chief some kamas!
Master Chief Fatal Flaws
_Dies from melee attack_
_Can’t eat, and drink_
*CANT PEE*
He pisses in his suit
But would chief get boner
@@chocotheangycoffeelord243 Nah man, he can't, being a Spartan is a sad life.
@@chocotheangycoffeelord243 dude there is plenty of room in the crotch have you never seen spartan armor?
@@rattman3975 yeah I have but it was small but that is true tho
10:35
The look on the dudes face when said that was priceless
Bro looked done
Its also power armor, Chief with the suit on has enough strength to lift a several tonne tank up and even punch a car onto its side.
Spartans aren't just punching somebody, they're effectively hitting another being with the same kinetic energy a car crash might have, of course that'd kill somebody, no suit of armor has safeguards to dodge that kind of kinetic energy spread over that wide an area.
Seriously Matt, how did you miss that, the same book you're quoting even talks about this.
I believe he discarded this considering the armor was able to survive and maintain the wearer safe after literally falling from space. A car crash can't compare to that.
I apologize if this sounds weird, but I can't find the words I need xP
I've always seen it as being hit by a truck or a train, rather than a car. Dunno why :D
Is that as impactful as falling from space?
+OneTruePie
didnt feel a damn thing - any and all astartes
+sleepybird09 it depends on how he falls as well. If he would have went head first how high do you think his chances of survival would have been? Even then he had a chance of dying actually in that fall as well and was lucky to live that is how I see it anyway. In the end it all depends on the force and where that force is being applied if enough of it is applied anything can happen.
10:37 That face tells you what that guy is thinking, "This kid is a freakin idiot. Why in the world do i have to work with him?"
Lmao I know he really looked like he was about to kill him
Azzam Al Hanif, LoL
Or rather: "This is bad comedy."
Azzam Al Hanif true
Azzam Al Hanif .-.
the guy seemed annoyed the entire time
yeah :(
MatPat seemed a bit overenthusiastic too.
A little too energetic, I'd think.
Bob Jim McJimBob Jr. The Second yeah he got no chill
***** A bit awkwardly at parts.
Hes supposed to be fighting fukn aliens not having a guy look at his dik
The first segment were you were saying you couldn't aim with the rifle cuz they kept moving was so relatable, takes a lot of practice to snipe someone in multiplayer
okay so i feel like he's missing the fact that they're always dealing with enhanced enemies as well, which would be significant because of the larger punch power
Making it easier for our armour to fail.
More like equalizing it
@@lesliegilbraith766 What's the difference anyway, the blow is more effective all the same.
Yeah a 100 pound titanium fist powered by an exoskeleton and a super soldier is most definitely gonna do some damage
Even if its flawed...
Its badass.
agreed
True tho
I fully support
I always wondered why Master cheif can survive a 1000ft drop, but dies when he takes 2 steps into water.
Chief never did.
He never what? died when he stepped in water or survived the 1000ft fall?
The fall.
SS Flaming or falls of a cliff without touching the ground
hunter 999 Those glitches always screwing chief
we need that "could doom guy beat master chief?" Video :)
I dont think we need a whole video about it, if we're talking about the doom slayer then master chief is losing, BUT if we're talking about the doom guy from the older doom games then master chief is winning
Exactly, the Doom Guy now has been augmented by the maykr artifact so Chief winning against him is impossible, but if it's the Doom Guy before, which he's still just a veteran marine (with a lot of rage) then Chief will win.
Maybe because you are getting hit by OTHER spartans ?
U r right.
Why didn't i think of that? XD
Elites knock down chief aswell
Breezy bee elites are as physically strong as Spartans
I think one thing you're not touching on that should be considered relevant is the relative forces involved in these punches. A person's punching power can be deadly to others if you're talking about a strong person hitting you in the wrong place, but there's no human being that could punch with the force of a 1000 pound suit + body enhancements + extra strength from the suit itself. Canonically, the force involved from that would be like getting hit by a car on the surface area of a fist. That would kill anybody instantly, neural link or not!Unlike taking bullets/other shots, which are relatively light, the acceleration/momentum from getting your head nailed by such a strike would only partially be cushioned by armor...and you need that to be a pretty freaking huge "part" or it would fracture the skull. If we're going to accept the stats on these suits at all, there's no getting around that a punch from one would carry blunt tremendous blunt force trauma greater than most of the game's weapons (and stuff like rockets can and do 1-shot you also, in contrast with bullets)
+TheMelnTeam Nah, professional boxers can hit with roughly the force of being in a car crash.
Spartan in the current armor are able to lift something like 5-8 tons, and move and a _very_ fast speed. Probably more like getting hit by a cannon ball to be honest.
Jane Murphy I'm not talking about "being in a car crash" with boxing glove type force, I'm talking about literally being *hit* by the car, as a pedestrian, on the surface area of a fist :D. Cannon ball analogy works too.
TheMelnTeam
Don't forget said fist is covered in a gauntlet made out of the same titanium as well. :p
And human getting hit by that would probably get their everything broken, and possibly have a fist sticking out of the other side of their body to be honest.
+Jane Murphy Even more than that. When you consider most often these attacks come while running, and even accelerate you in the direction of the target at a speed equal to the basic sprint speed in the game. Your punches are almost always at around 50 mph (basing it off of Chief's top run speeds) That's 1000 tons, coming at 50mph + whatever the speed of the punch is. And 100% of the energy is transfered (you stop moving after a melee) into the area of a single fist. Most of it isn't physically possible to begin with, but going with the whole "game physics allows anything" cop out, that's enough force to punch down a building if you wanted. I just put these numbers into a force calculator, and the force of 1 punch would be over 5 times greater than the force of a sniper shot at close range. Book physics would obviously lower that, because it doesn't have to worry about gameplay, but that's what's happening in-game when you punch someone.
YuutakaIzumi
To help with your calculations a bit.
Usain Bolt ran around 28 MPH in his sprint, Master chief was around 60-70 mph. So roughly double the speed.
A fastball pitcher throws a baseball around 100-105mph, so a spartan punch would likely be around 200mph + 50-70 from sprinting as fast as possible.
Mother of God... the horror... all the people I've meleed... you're saying they didn't die? they just couldn't move the suit anymore??? I left thousands on the battlefield... not even dead, but I'm sure they died... trapped in thousand-pound suits....
the suits weight would balance out not crushing you
Don't worry, there dead...(insert calm face here)
Lol
Well they all respawned, so you can sleep better knowing that...
oh trust me they died alright, they got crushed the second you broke that Connection.
5:17 as someone from someone in the future: the titanium nanocomposite material is actually pure titanium but it requires power to move the titanium at all
Spartan: dies in one melee hit*
UNSC: let’s put extra armour on the PP
PP important
@@stevendaigle3913 As every pokemon trainer knows.
@@Merennulli The fact that that was your first thought makes you the biggest nerd ever but I respect that
@@Kaiziak im playing pokemon rn
My first thought was osu!
Imagine this, two dudes in cardboard armor shooting at each other with nerf guns. Then they resolve in fighting melee. What would do more damage?
That's a way to think of it...
Good idea. Now for the maths. I'm only 10 so I'm going to say its probably hard to divide dmrs by the same amount as dividing armour. Divide dmrs by 1000% (example) and divide spartan armour by 1000%. Would a dmr end up as a rapidstrike cs18 and spartan armour markIV end up as cardboard? It sounds a bit far-fetched to line up so perfectly. Might be true though :). Good idea though
Instead of nerf guns, how about bb guns shooting metal pellets or real guns shooting rubber bullets.
SalmonberryTeaGameFilmHD but would it link up and be divided by the same amount as the guns to make cardboard armour and bb guns or real guns with foam bullets?
+The LEGO Work Shop That would imply that the punches are way stronger than bullets, are your punches stronger than a gunshot?
He seemed nervous while filming
Bill Gates has a gun on his head
+Berkan Celebi So do I
+Saylem Olberg Well, he probably didn't want to come off as a fool or a joke; he was clearly watching what he was saying--both to "John", and to to the real-life expert.
Yah I just noticed!
+Saylem Olberg I think he probably felt pressured into being more professional around the specialist. As he knows he is basically a UA-camr and many people still do not get that that is a proper career. Other than that it could just be that because the specialist seems uncomfortable, it made him feel more nervous?
I think he’s also forgetting that these super soldiers are probably dozens of times stronger than humans
Yep, that's why they go through training and body augmentation as children through the spartan programs.
Now I understand why they call it the Mjollnir armor couse that thing heavy as hell and you would have to be worthy of wearing it.
i learned more here in 2 minutes than in science in 45 minutes
Story of my life
You need to pay more attention then lol.
I'd start paying more attention in science then, because this will most likely not help you pass any exams :/
+Fighter_jet210 Gaming That was just what I was thinking haha!
***** murica' bro
Chief: coffee!
Matpat: the suit PREDICTS the move they’ll take next,
Chief: *annihilates the coffee* darn!
man in the suit:*looks left*,*looks rigth*,*looks down*,*looks up*,*poses for the camera*, *nods*,*Poses for camera again*
Also something why the Spartan armor dies to one melee: it is hit by another spartan, so with much, much more force than a normal human could even hope to archieve
10:38 his face after he said ballistic mask
He was SO SO pissed off Smh lmfao 😂
I'll make this comment have 117 likes
Halo: wears super powerful armor to survive gun shots. Overwatch: survives rocket blast wears yoga pants and a leather jacket
AnAveragePikachu And halo can't even survive the shots either.
AnAveragePikachu not to mention widowmaker
or survive a barage of minigun fire, rockets etc by being fat and snorting gas
AnAveragePikachu yup pretty much
Also you can reflect minigun fire, gravity, bombs, and rockets with one tiny sword.
Is it just me, or did the armor specialist look kind of annoyed about half way through? XD
+lowrider6217 Probably because he dislikes whiny sounding nerds....Can you blame him?
+Pepe Bond what it's true
+lowrider6217 Lol He was worried that he wouldn't be able to answer Mat's questions for not being into the Halo series. He seemed to lighten up the more he talked though.
+Jaden Stewart I get the feeling you don't know what "truth" means.
+Mr. Pokirby Well its my opinion but i would say its an informed one since i have functional ears.
“Master Chief, you mind telling me what you’re doing under those covers?”
“Sir, going blankie mode.”
Mat just casually gets to borrow halo armor. bless.
+Derpy Hooves /)
Oh my god didn't expect to see the derpy hooves that's made my day
I SEE YOU LITERALLY EVERYWHERE I SWEAR
Jesus... I'm not going to say anything because, you know, I think that people should be able to like what they want, etc. isn't this just asking for trolls and haters to come and prey upon you?
+ZimiTros figuratively* PLS don't kill me guys
Alright, now let's talk about Fallout power armor.
+Sly Ngn it looks the same as terminator armor from warhammer
+GirlsundPanzer Fan12 it really doesn't.
power armor actaully does like the helmet -_-
GirlsundPanzer Fan12 the overall shape is different, the filtration system, the visor the decals, and the way the head is placed on the armor are all different.
+Sly Ngn Yes.
I envy the guy that was wearing the armor the whole time. That would make you feel so powerful.
“Master Chief, you mind telling me what you’re doing getting a pat on the back?”
“Sir, crippling my back.”
Dude, how did you miss the most obvious flaw? Chief can't pee.
he goes in the suit
logan crump
That suit is air-tight
+NearEDGE
One Word: Catheders.
Also eww.
The helmet is the only part of the suit that's removable.
NearEDGE The suit is assembled around the wearer. The undersheathing can be removed, but the actual armor part of the suit has to be unassembled first.
Also, they use catheters in actual real-life spacesuits, to allow the astronauts to pee during spacewalks, so it goes to reason that in 500 or so years they will have perfected the technology (as much as you can perfect something like that lol).
As for how Cheif handles "number two", well... That's anyone's guess lol. Guess he just goes before each mission? That, or there's some pretty amazing waste recycling technology happening in there. :P
But matpat... The spartans don't *just* get punched in the head. With this theory, why would a punch to the arm kill them???
+Arun Hearn with the weight of the suits getting hit by one i guess the force could be enough to damage the neural translator theres not much to absorb the impact since the suits pretty solid apart from the spartan wearing its own movements everything else is like hitting a statue so hitting the suit from almost anywhere could still prove to be deadly
But by that logic any hit, not just directly from a person, but also a hit from a gun, should be enough to kill the wearer
+Arun Hearn Sometimes it takes more than one punch to kill a spartan.
+TheOneChief bullets dont have much weight to them so a bullet hitting such a heavy suit doesnt translate into a force big enough to knock the suit but getting hit by a suit equal to the mass of yours should be
a punch to the arm would also jerk the body and when the body jerks so does the head and therefore...death
Up next, I have the designer of the NASA Space Shuttle so that I can tell him why my Lego Millennium Falcon is so badass.
lol
+Raptor302 Not as badass as my Lego Star Destroyer!
+Flowey The Flower! Nothing compared to the SSV-Normandy
Lol exactly right, telling an engineer about your fantasies is annoying
+Raptor302 I have tons of legos! imgur.com/a/07dDR these are my legos. i also have the millennium falcon too!
So hes basically saying that when the neural connection is broken the suit collapses, killing the user. Similar to a major car accident where the driver isnt killed by g-forces but by being crushed by the car crumbling and folding in in itself.
When they mentioned the curtain around the waist I started thinking of Clone Wars
I was thinking that to
Praise the kamas
same
Right?!
We need real life clone armor
His armor can protect him from a fall from outer space, but he can be killed with one punch...
All opposing Master Chiefs in PvP are secretly Saitama.
when falling from orbit the spartans armor locks up, same thing happened in reach when noble 6 fell.
***** I don't remember asking...
FireKid112 i dont remember caring
***** Then why the hell did you speak up?
FireKid112 my hand slipped