@@Alexukuru I value shape much higher now. The cable is also really well implemented (you won't feel it much) and the positives of this mouse are too overwhelming to ignore.
Dude, this guy makes so good and helpful reviews I swear to god he is waaay to underrated, he's the reason I'm comfotable with my mice and generally my hardware. GGs as always man
you just got me with the vibe of the entire review, i got an op1 8K, share the same experience as you, moved from a gpx to op1 8K and something just make me stay with it lol
I had actuation issues with my first copy, but it seemed like a very rare issue. (Tested on GX Speed. Didn't try GX Safe mode though. I just ordered the purple frost OP1 8k. It comes with 3950 and the lighter switches (the GX 50-55)
Wouldn't they beat like 9/10 mice nowadays if they came out with a wirless 4k version? I'd love to try it but see no point to going back to a cable. I use very light fingertip mice like the HSK or HTR, I definitely don't want a wire lol but the mouse seems nice
maybe, the only thing I am unsure about is if that kind of click latency is achievable without the wire as of right now. If there was a lighter, wireless OP1 with light clicks and 4k it would be really enjoyable to use
@@soxxks have you swapped already? I have an op1we and am wondering if the sensor and polling rate make the wired verison a must have or if I could stick to the wireless verison (the cost to get op1 8k in my country is around $140 tho...)
after some hours aim training and trying to improve my form and stability I realized the shape of my G pro Superlight was prohibiting me from truly advancing and the switches are just a tad bit too heavy leading to small shakes in my aim due to the extra tension required to press the switch despite my flicks and tracking being on point most of the time that little bit of wobble when I would go to press my mouse buttons would cause me deviate all because of how the shape forced my hands to grip the mouse and actuation weight
this caused alot of hesitation in my aim where I had to mentally make note of where my crosshair placement everything was alot more deliberate then I liked. My philosophy for gaming peripherals is that they should become an extension of yourself everything should be natural and instinctual you shouldnt have to think about if youre crosshair is on target you should just be able to get your aim on point without thinking about it kinda like flow state, if you have to think about it too much it slows you down and you become reactive instead of proactive and put yourself at a major disadvantage
I thought like this before, but truthfully a mouse did not hold me back a single time, it was always nothing but a skill issue. Before I blamed my bad aim on the gpx, but after acrually improving, I do just as well with the gpx as any other mouse. I see WAY too many people keeping to blame their peripherals, whilst it's obviously the users fault why they play bad.
I also partly agree. I think peripherals and setups can help improve both quality of life and performance. However, the biggest part of the pie, by far, is just getting better and putting the hours in. Also, becoming too fixated and blaming equipment will only push you away from this. That being said, I can also imagine a scenario where a person's equipment might not be suitable for their hands or playstyle.
@@Keeahhsee I have over 3000+ hours across my g pro and pro superlight. They were the first mice I had actually picked up to try and improve generally in less then a year I went from an average of 0.8-1.3kd to an average a 2.5-3kd across basically every game I play sure you can say skill issue if you want but it genuinely requires me to use way too much tension and strain when gripping aiming and clicking the buttons which makes my aim shift and wobble ever so slightly for me, thats not something I can fight with a different grip style or just putting more hours on the mouse its not a skill issue its genuinely just not comfortable and intuitive for me to use and I would greatly benefit from a less symmetrical mouse with lighter clicks, I have a high end pc I have good headphones ive done nearly hundreds of hours of aim training and sensitivity tuning my mouse is the one thing that stands out and jumps out to me as not ideal in my setup.
@@greippuli9166 I dont have bad aim it genuinely causes me to use more effort then i need to, causing me to tense up because its not letting me grip it in an intuitive way. its like holding a pencil with your fist sure I can do that but its gonna cause me to put too much force on the pencil and cause me to be really sloppy because its awkward and doesnt suit me trying to get gud with a subpar mouse for my particular hand size and grip is only going to compound my issues and make me aim worse then I am
I've searched the Sora v2 everywhere, but in the EU is too difficult to find it, and then I see this, but same thing, bruh. The Viper 3 is more cheap here...
I personally have it enabled and when it happens I just press click again somewhat fast. It can definitely be annoying at times, though it does feel really responsive. I would say try having it enabed, and if it bothers or annoys you too much switch it off
@@Keeahh and those are top of the line (and price pool) products where you are paying double for a slight but notable performance boost because you are an enthusiast. most of the enthusiast market hovers around the 70-100 (lamzu atlantis, op18k, pulsar x2 ETC) range with the budget options being around the 25-50 range (attack shark mice, VXE mice, AJAZZ mice, keychron mice ETC) an 80 mouse is average and should be expected unless you are paying for the brand name (logitech, razer, finalmouse) or for unique features like magnesium or unique shape (like fingertip only shapes)
i bought the sora v2 a couple months back and its pretty great but to be honest the weight is really hard to use, do you think I should just rip the band aid off and buy this one. I've literally only heard good things about it.
If you have medium/small hands and use claw grip, I think you might end up really loving it. I would also recommend a mouse bungee if you find that the cable is getting in the way.
@@KeeahhYou convinced me :p but I do want to know if you've heard anything about the op1 4k we (btw the weight of the sora v2 makes it hard I love the shape)
I think the OP1we has some flaws that would put the OP1 8k ahead by a mile. I believe they announced the OP1w 4k which looks promising, though I don't have any information on that
yes! I saw a person doing a 3d printed base mod, which brought the weight down by roughly 7 grams. My worry is that the cable will become more of a problem as the weight of the mouse becomes lower.
@@KeeahhWorry not, LGG has a lethal cable mod for it now, which actually INSANELY thin and light, I have no idea how they made a cable with shielding that non-existent
@@Alexukuru I mean it's something you probably want if you plan on modding the op1 to be very light. The stock cable is already insanely good, but the lighter the mouse is the more the cable moving around will affect the feel. The lethal cable is just to make you feel the cable even less.
I have seen reviewers like hausgaming and others measure latency both with Nvidia's LDAT and with finalmouse's XLAT. The OP1 8k seems to always have the lowest click latency, however, what I am mostly referring to in the video is the OP1's SPDT mode, no other switch on the market works this way (as far as I am aware of) and it definitely feels very intuitive
@@Keeahh you hold down LMB(left click) and it clicks for you a certain number of clicks per second, it's useful for roblox and stuff like that. Similar to an autoclicker.
Very overhyped mouse. Especially in a time where there are such diminishing returns when it comes to upgrading your mouse. Sure if youre just getting into gaming and have been using like a $20 mouse, this would be a great upgrade. But for people who already own a top razer or logitech mouse, this mouse offers nothing except downgrades.
@@marcgutierrez7658 i mean from the comments i'd probably get it, i've heard so many people complaining about the gpx having an inconsistent grip feel and a bit of shakiness when clicking and it throwing them off
What do you guys think of the OP1?
If you have any suggestions for future videos or feedback for this one, please let me know. Thank you!
isn't 75 USD still a lot for a wired mouse?
@@Alexukuru I value shape much higher now. The cable is also really well implemented (you won't feel it much) and the positives of this mouse are too overwhelming to ignore.
@@Keeahh What if I don't have a mouse bungee? Will it feel the same??
@@SankisCuriosity I would highly recommend a mouse bungee, the cable becomes more noticeable without it. Even a cheaper one will do
@@SankisCuriosity Pulsar micro bungee es is very cheap and is amazing.
Dude, this guy makes so good and helpful reviews I swear to god he is waaay to underrated, he's the reason I'm comfotable with my mice and generally my hardware. GGs as always man
ong he's underrated asf. Deserves more recognition
@@Alexukuru Ikr?
It’s all about the 3.5 🧈 @justmasss4474
you just got me with the vibe of the entire review, i got an op1 8K, share the same experience as you, moved from a gpx to op1 8K and something just make me stay with it lol
When you turn a review into a mini documentary, GG man, G fucking G
Got the OP1 8K in Purple Frost. Feels so damn good coming from an old G600 at 133g.
honestly thought you had hundreds of thousands of subs till i scrolled down. great video.
wow, thank you! glad you enjoyed the video
w review i really need to get one to try it
I think i found the perfect mouse to go with my ROG strix Scar 16 gaming laptop for gaming on the go. Thanks dude.
gettin mines tuesday switching from razer v2 pro and gpx2
Really clean review! Been planning to make the switch from my WLMouse as I felt that the clicks were too heavy despite it being 39g
great vid
I had actuation issues with my first copy, but it seemed like a very rare issue. (Tested on GX Speed. Didn't try GX Safe mode though.
I just ordered the purple frost OP1 8k. It comes with 3950 and the lighter switches (the GX 50-55)
goated video
Cool, liked
Wouldn't they beat like 9/10 mice nowadays if they came out with a wirless 4k version? I'd love to try it but see no point to going back to a cable. I use very light fingertip mice like the HSK or HTR, I definitely don't want a wire lol but the mouse seems nice
maybe, the only thing I am unsure about is if that kind of click latency is achievable without the wire as of right now.
If there was a lighter, wireless OP1 with light clicks and 4k it would be really enjoyable to use
I'm swapping from wireless to this because it's more convenient to not have to charge :)
@@soxxks have you swapped already? I have an op1we and am wondering if the sensor and polling rate make the wired verison a must have or if I could stick to the wireless verison (the cost to get op1 8k in my country is around $140 tho...)
what is the point of wireless
@@voidgivenfocus this question seems tough to answer. Let me refer you to the support team of any other gaming mice company in 2024
I like to watch positive reviews of this mouse to justify my purchase even though i already had a fully functional Logitech g703
xm2 8k and xm2w 4k opinions?
after some hours aim training and trying to improve my form and stability I realized the shape of my G pro Superlight was prohibiting me from truly advancing and the switches are just a tad bit too heavy leading to small shakes in my aim due to the extra tension required to press the switch despite my flicks and tracking being on point most of the time that little bit of wobble when I would go to press my mouse buttons would cause me deviate all because of how the shape forced my hands to grip the mouse and actuation weight
this caused alot of hesitation in my aim where I had to mentally make note of where my crosshair placement everything was alot more deliberate then I liked. My philosophy for gaming peripherals is that they should become an extension of yourself everything should be natural and instinctual you shouldnt have to think about if youre crosshair is on target you should just be able to get your aim on point without thinking about it kinda like flow state, if you have to think about it too much it slows you down and you become reactive instead of proactive and put yourself at a major disadvantage
I thought like this before, but truthfully a mouse did not hold me back a single time, it was always nothing but a skill issue. Before I blamed my bad aim on the gpx, but after acrually improving, I do just as well with the gpx as any other mouse. I see WAY too many people keeping to blame their peripherals, whilst it's obviously the users fault why they play bad.
I also partly agree. I think peripherals and setups can help improve both quality of life and performance. However, the biggest part of the pie, by far, is just getting better and putting the hours in. Also, becoming too fixated and blaming equipment will only push you away from this. That being said, I can also imagine a scenario where a person's equipment might not be suitable for their hands or playstyle.
@@Keeahhsee I have over 3000+ hours across my g pro and pro superlight. They were the first mice I had actually picked up to try and improve generally in less then a year I went from an average of 0.8-1.3kd to an average a 2.5-3kd across basically every game I play
sure you can say skill issue if you want but it genuinely requires me to use way too much tension and strain when gripping aiming and clicking the buttons which makes my aim shift and wobble ever so slightly for me, thats not something I can fight with a different grip style or just putting more hours on the mouse its not a skill issue its genuinely just not comfortable and intuitive for me to use and I would greatly benefit from a less symmetrical mouse with lighter clicks, I have a high end pc I have good headphones ive done nearly hundreds of hours of aim training and sensitivity tuning my mouse is the one thing that stands out and jumps out to me as not ideal in my setup.
@@greippuli9166 I dont have bad aim it genuinely causes me to use more effort then i need to, causing me to tense up because its not letting me grip it in an intuitive way.
its like holding a pencil with your fist sure I can do that but its gonna cause me to put too much force on the pencil and cause me to be really sloppy because its awkward and doesnt suit me trying to get gud with a subpar mouse for my particular hand size and grip is only going to compound my issues and make me aim worse then I am
I'm currently using Razer Viper V2 Pro and considering buying OP1, but I'm not so sure if it's worth it
I've searched the Sora v2 everywhere, but in the EU is too difficult to find it, and then I see this, but same thing, bruh.
The Viper 3 is more cheap here...
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im pissed that i bought a white one as soon as the clear purple one came out
please continue with reviews, i find ur thought process and video editing rather entertaining
I really appreciate it! I have a few more reviews and videos planned
do u recommend activing the speed mode of the mouse for fps games? or no because of the problem with the clicks?
the problem with clicks can be very frustrating especially in fps games, I think enabling it won't be the best idea but idk
I personally have it enabled and when it happens I just press click again somewhat fast. It can definitely be annoying at times, though it does feel really responsive.
I would say try having it enabed, and if it bothers or annoys you too much switch it off
Would you reccomend the OP1we? Its only 1000hz but wireless
It’s great but u gotta swap about the click switches to the new one and you’ll be good to go
get xm2w 4k
i want one so bad but they don't ship it to my country
Would you consider the Endgame Gear OP1 8k the best low budget mouse?
Yes, definitely! If you enjoy claw gripping and have medium/small hands, it's definitely the best one by far.
calling an 80 mouse low budget is delusional
@@ilikefrogs4291 most of the top mice on the market are more than twice the amount... (e.g. Finalmouse ULX, GPX, WL Mouse, Viper V3...)
@@Keeahh and those are top of the line (and price pool) products where you are paying double for a slight but notable performance boost because you are an enthusiast. most of the enthusiast market hovers around the 70-100 (lamzu atlantis, op18k, pulsar x2 ETC) range with the budget options being around the 25-50 range (attack shark mice, VXE mice, AJAZZ mice, keychron mice ETC) an 80 mouse is average and should be expected unless you are paying for the brand name (logitech, razer, finalmouse) or for unique features like magnesium or unique shape (like fingertip only shapes)
i bought the sora v2 a couple months back and its pretty great but to be honest the weight is really hard to use, do you think I should just rip the band aid off and buy this one. I've literally only heard good things about it.
If you have medium/small hands and use claw grip, I think you might end up really loving it.
I would also recommend a mouse bungee if you find that the cable is getting in the way.
@@KeeahhYou convinced me :p but I do want to know if you've heard anything about the op1 4k we (btw the weight of the sora v2 makes it hard I love the shape)
I think the OP1we has some flaws that would put the OP1 8k ahead by a mile.
I believe they announced the OP1w 4k which looks promising, though I don't have any information on that
Great video overall. Do you think its possible to mod this mouse to make it lighter?
yes! I saw a person doing a 3d printed base mod, which brought the weight down by roughly 7 grams. My worry is that the cable will become more of a problem as the weight of the mouse becomes lower.
@@Keeahh Understandable
@@KeeahhWorry not, LGG has a lethal cable mod for it now, which actually INSANELY thin and light, I have no idea how they made a cable with shielding that non-existent
@@greippuli9166 is it lighter than the 7 grams that the other person put out?
@@Alexukuru I mean it's something you probably want if you plan on modding the op1 to be very light. The stock cable is already insanely good, but the lighter the mouse is the more the cable moving around will affect the feel. The lethal cable is just to make you feel the cable even less.
Where is your source that it has the lowest click latency?
I have seen reviewers like hausgaming and others measure latency both with Nvidia's LDAT and with finalmouse's XLAT. The OP1 8k seems to always have the lowest click latency, however, what I am mostly referring to in the video is the OP1's SPDT mode, no other switch on the market works this way (as far as I am aware of) and it definitely feels very intuitive
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what bungee you are using?
stageek, mouse bungee slim
it's one that sticks on the desk
Is this the wooting of mouse?
Too bad that the by far most relevant fps esport favors low sens and palm grip (just joking) (only half)
What game is that at 4:49
battlefield 5
@@Keeahh thank you and good review
Its about latency,the end game have less latency
Ah Kia
Does anyone know if you could use rapid trigger/macro on this mouse?
Do you mean having rapid trigger enabled on a keyboard while also using this mouse with SPDT? or am I misunderstanding?
@@Keeahh you hold down LMB(left click) and it clicks for you a certain number of clicks per second, it's useful for roblox and stuff like that. Similar to an autoclicker.
oh, I see. Is there a test I can do for you in order to see if it works?
In the meantime maybe someone else can help in the comments
@@Kalepsyyy needing that mouse for roblox is wild
0:24 I have the same exact one from temu tho
you don't have to say "one of the fastest".
it's the fastest.
Very overhyped mouse. Especially in a time where there are such diminishing returns when it comes to upgrading your mouse. Sure if youre just getting into gaming and have been using like a $20 mouse, this would be a great upgrade. But for people who already own a top razer or logitech mouse, this mouse offers nothing except downgrades.
Mouse hardware means nothing. It’s all about shape and comfortability. You sound really stupid man
i have gpx 1, should i consider to upgrade to op18k?
@@marcgutierrez7658 i mean from the comments i'd probably get it, i've heard so many people complaining about the gpx having an inconsistent grip feel and a bit of shakiness when clicking and it throwing them off
@@dxrrk yeah ive experienced that myself, idk if its because of the shape or the way i grip the mouse