@@coolingchips1410 Usually artisan pads last somewhere between 6 to 12 months, but that also depends on which pad for instance their Hein lasts longer than their other pads, a lot of people reported that there Zero has gotten muddier after a years use, so we are assuming thats similar to the Type99 since both are control pads. However, Artisan themselves suggest changed pads every 3 months, which we believe is a bit extreme.
hey man i am in a bit of a slump for the past month can you focus your next vid on that? i think people will be educated and helped if you make avid abt it thanks !
This video got me from silver 2 to plat 1.... i wasn't sitting correctly.... and had no consistancy i'd drop 30 kills one game on Valorant next i'd be lucky to not bottom frag. Thank you for this video the big part i was missing was actually having my keyboard closer to my mouse. I had to adjust my aim a tad but overall im playing so much better. Under rated channel here. Cant wait to see u blow up.
@@ltakethisl3313 it's a pole which clamps on your desk and the pole has arms which attaches to your monitor. So your monitor is basically in air with free movements as you want. Just search it on google you'll understand it
@@ltakethisl3313 a mount that you connect your monitor to and clamp to your desk meaning you can move your monitor up down, left right, back forwards effortlessly
Implemented different alignments long ago and figured out ergonomics were number 1 factor for comfort and consistency. Now after 3-10 minutes sitting is perfected!
This is video was incredibly well made and insightful. I was thinking this was a channel with a couple 100k subs but was shocked. Keep up the amazing content, subbed!
10/10 video, I was watching through to send it to a noober friend and we use the same gear and literally use the same approximative techniques to setup ourselves, was suprirsed to see you recommend the fist under the monitor thing :)
One thing that is important in my opinion is investing in a adjustable desk, and make sure it goes low enough for you. This is because if you just increase your chairs height your feet will dangle off and will make sitting uncomfortable. This is mainly for shorter people but many desks are made for taller people.
Extremely informative, thanks. Personally, no adjustable chair/monitor/table forces me to focus on aiming arm placement with my long arms and stature, i used to have Extreme shoulder pain leaning forward to maximize control but now I try to lean back and smooth over my arm movements after locking in my wrist to a fixed rotation, but this still comes at yhe cost of monitor distance, and keyboard distance, and I still hit my monitor from time to time while tracking with my arm. I compensate for my simple movement for horizontal speed and accuracy over distance.
Thanks for the help. I have always played with my hands separated or a little more open. The detail I have is that my table is not very big. I support myself with a footrest and my adjustable chair, but as I have investigated more, they indicate that there is no 100% correct posture since the human body does or does ask to stay in motion. The other crucial thing is to sleep 8 hours a day.
its over 8 inches away from ur eyes so its not possible aslong as its not right infront of ur face blocking ur periphal vision u cant get myopia search it up
So lowering the chair made me able to control better but then I am naturally moving my arm away from my body because I m unable to do make long flicks or rotate 180 when in this position.
Great video, it's interesting to see that every pro has good or bad form of aiming and that you don't need to be close to your monitor to be a good player.
my desk has no space like yours does, mine is a wooden table that only has space in the middle, the right side and the left side are cabinets (connected together)
I have had back problems forever, so I always had to figit around to see my monitor correctly without straining my back. Also felt like I couldn’t see targets very well because the 1 arm method for monitor distance. This has helped substantially, also my monitor was also was way too high. I had the center of my eyes at the middle almost bottom of the monitor.🤦🏻♂️
My monitor isn't adjustable, and I don't have anything to raise it properly without support having to sit on my mousepad (I have a Skypad 4), and my keyboard is gaint (full size with 2cm border on each side, but its the only NKRO one I own), so I can't move it much. I feel comfortable with a 70-90 degree tilt. My keybinds also feel strange at less than 70, and feel right at 90 degrees. My hand is placed uncomfortably though, because the numpad and extra keys offsets my keyboard. Great video, I loved watching it.
My big issue is i thought when playing knb i had to use my chairs elbow resters. Even tho ive been doing it for years i felt that they always mess up my consistent aim. I see that you dont use them at all and rest your arm in the table itself with a healthy angle. This is a change I have to try and see! Thanks for the video! Even after years of playing also at high level of competitive gaming i still find ergonomics hard to stick with. And end up blaming my sens for it. Thanks again!
Bro how can you draw all these conclusions without mentioning the size of the monitor? Say you have a 60 inch TV and you place it at an "elbow distance"?
I do not understand how not having your monitor centered vertically would be beneficial. Or maybe a bit lower to better see the higher part of the screen, as most things happen there
My arm feels hard to move, but if i try to increase the chair height my arm starts to kinda float and it becomes exhausting really fast. I'm using an arm sleeve and Artisan Zero Mid mousepad. My pad is far back so only my wrist is on it because if i put my arm on the mousepad it's practically impossible to move at all
I can't adjust my monitor to a comfortable distance because the monitor stand is shaped like a triangle, that's almost as wide as my monitor, so i have to put my monitor on my mousepad which means that when i flick i hit my mouse against the monitor stand, and when my mouse hits the monitor stand it usually disconnects. Also I can't get a monitor stand because my monitor has a stand that allows me to just click the monitor into the stand, without any screws, and it also doesnt support any other monitor stands.
I never really watched or thought about aim form when playing games but after seeing this I realized going through different gear with different placement of them(form) the past 10 years (not intentionally but because all gears are shaped different, including desk and chair) what I stick to now is surprisingly similar to the setup you have. Thumbs up for going through the research and having it explained. Would've been nice if you made this video for me 10 years ago, so I didn't have to go through 10 years to find my ideal form 😂
My personal problem with my setup is my table's height, that cannot be changed, it's one of those ikea with the drawers, it just feel weird when im at home gaming, unlike the table at my office. I see myself rising my chair a lot for it to feel similiar, but then comes the problem where my feet aren't touching the floor, wich people say is bad posture... Also this is a really well made video, you deserve more subs and views Oblivity, much love.
So one thing we can suggest is getting a footrest in this case, this will completely support your posture as well as give you a bit more freedom to adjust. There are options where the footrest is height adjustable.
you can buy ikea table with legs that you twist and change height, though they are really tedious, and takes time to get exact same, but you can also use them normally, and its pretty low, OLOV adjustable legs, every toher electric desk is still too high, there might be a few rare ones that go really low, but they expensive
Yep i know now why i have shoulders fatigue and why i couldn’t aim up bec simply i was leaning forward on the desk and now i need to change chairs bec mine doesnt go lower enough but hopefully it will help the neck/shoulder and back fatigue hope so 😭😭🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
my problem is that i have a monitor that i cant change the angle of , the desk is too high , the chair is not a not adjustable , my keyboard isnt consistent , W and Shift dont always work , and bad mouse ( my monito is 900p 60hz tn with shit colors ) whats my solution
What about being in forward tilted position, like straight up army position that pashaBiceps showed once you should do in you want to be ready for game, instead of lean back position? Does it give any gain or is it just psychological? Looks like most pros don't even touch chair with their back during tournaments.
this was super helpfup i think the only thing that i struggle with is my chair was p cheap and im on the smaller side so i cannot comfortably sit up straight in my chair and be close enough because it is not adjustable
been having troubles with my chair height. having it higher gives me neck pain and lower feels like my arms are sticking to the table/mousepad a lot when doing larger flicks. Gonna take some time to find a good balance in between now that I know the neckpain comes from the chair being too high and me leaning forwards. I thought I was just too used to having the chair too low and this new "good" posture would just take time to get used to. Ill play around with it and hopefully will find a working solution :D Great video!
Yeah bro i have the same issue everybody was saying to have chair height a little bit higher to have neutral shoulders position but i just cant adjust and the shoulders/neck and back fatigue is unbearable and now i need to change chairs bec mines doesnt go down bec i changed the chair lift 😂😂
Hello, friend, I have a BenQ XL2720Z 27 inch 1080p, I am 2 meters away as they recommend between 1.5 and 2 meters, but I still move my eyes to the extreme sides of the monitor with a native aspect ratio of 16:9, what can I do in these cases, buy one of 22 or 24 inches, also I can't exceed 32 or more because my room is very small
so i have a small desk which makes contact with the desk impossible as exlplained here 3:39.this is because the armwrests hit the feet of the chair(sry not a native speaker dont know how to call those)
this actually helped me getting a bit more comfortable to play but i got a problem with my keyboard and my monitor front of my keyboard is touching my monitor feet should i buy table mount?
@Oblivity how much exactly you tilt your screen ? if you put measure app from iPhone on screen on the long ege of the phone whats your tilt ? -10 or -15 ?? or what ??
@1:04 Are those monitor tilt angles on their monitors real or just assumptions? I've always used a 19 degree angle (as of last 2 years). @5:40 I always found myself leaning forward and I always thought it was cause i had my monitor too far but this whole time it mightve been because my chair height is too high. Great video.
I have somewhat controversial opinion on keyboard positions. I have pretty unique wrist genetics, so for me the inward tilted keyboard cause a lot of fatigue and inacuracy with pressing buttons on timing, so I do the exact opposit. I put my keyboard quite far from my mousepad and tilt it outwards. It provides me with really comfortable position for wrist and arm as a whole. But it's probably only working on me because unique genetics. I have the same problems with "relaxed" claw grips, for me they're more agressive and uncomfortable then classic "agressive" claw grips. But both are not ideal, so it's only choise between unstable ftip, which is fun for me, and really stable palm grip, which is no fun for me
Let us know what issues you face with your ergonomics!
so what's the life of a mousepad without an arm sleeve? (i have a "new" artisan type 99)
@@coolingchips1410 Usually artisan pads last somewhere between 6 to 12 months, but that also depends on which pad for instance their Hein lasts longer than their other pads, a lot of people reported that there Zero has gotten muddier after a years use, so we are assuming thats similar to the Type99 since both are control pads.
However, Artisan themselves suggest changed pads every 3 months, which we believe is a bit extreme.
I feel like you missed out on monitor size. The optimal distance depends on the size of your display. An elbow's length wont work out for everyone.
@@oblivityofficial that's quite low..
what about the esptiger tangdao poron?
hey man i am in a bit of a slump for the past month can you focus your next vid on that?
i think people will be educated and helped if you make avid abt it thanks !
criminally underrated
We appreciate all the love! Wait till you see what's coming next :)
Can’t agree more
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By far the most helpful fps setup video I've ever seen. Deserves much more attention
This video got me from silver 2 to plat 1.... i wasn't sitting correctly.... and had no consistancy i'd drop 30 kills one game on Valorant next i'd be lucky to not bottom frag. Thank you for this video the big part i was missing was actually having my keyboard closer to my mouse. I had to adjust my aim a tad but overall im playing so much better. Under rated channel here. Cant wait to see u blow up.
quality video, well-edited with plenty of scientific analysis, definitely underrated
dangerously underperformed by yt algorythm...make this guy famous
This is the exact video i was looking for. I made my setup from scratch and my friend suggested me to go for a monitor arm, best decision in my life
Same ,its the best thing
What is a monitor arm?
@@ltakethisl3313 it's a pole which clamps on your desk and the pole has arms which attaches to your monitor. So your monitor is basically in air with free movements as you want. Just search it on google you'll understand it
@@ltakethisl3313 its a holder arm for display and it takes no space in table and its adjustable for all heights and sides
@@ltakethisl3313 a mount that you connect your monitor to and clamp to your desk meaning you can move your monitor up down, left right, back forwards effortlessly
Implemented different alignments long ago and figured out ergonomics were number 1 factor for comfort and consistency. Now after 3-10 minutes sitting is perfected!
This is video was incredibly well made and insightful. I was thinking this was a channel with a couple 100k subs but was shocked. Keep up the amazing content, subbed!
10/10 video, I was watching through to send it to a noober friend and we use the same gear and literally use the same approximative techniques to setup ourselves, was suprirsed to see you recommend the fist under the monitor thing :)
Love to hear that!
One thing that is important in my opinion is investing in a adjustable desk, and make sure it goes low enough for you. This is because if you just increase your chairs height your feet will dangle off and will make sitting uncomfortable. This is mainly for shorter people but many desks are made for taller people.
BRO THANK YOU I WAD SEARCHING SO LONG *EXACTLY* FOR THIS VIDEO IM SUBBING
Great editing my man! Really stands out
Some high quality content, Subscribed. Don't change your content quality when you get big(dont do clickbaity stuff). Quality>Quantity.
Extremely informative, thanks.
Personally, no adjustable chair/monitor/table forces me to focus on aiming arm placement with my long arms and stature, i used to have Extreme shoulder pain leaning forward to maximize control but now I try to lean back and smooth over my arm movements after locking in my wrist to a fixed rotation, but this still comes at yhe cost of monitor distance, and keyboard distance, and I still hit my monitor from time to time while tracking with my arm. I compensate for my simple movement for horizontal speed and accuracy over distance.
underated youtuber/ content creator
Thanks for the help. I have always played with my hands separated or a little more open. The detail I have is that my table is not very big. I support myself with a footrest and my adjustable chair, but as I have investigated more, they indicate that there is no 100% correct posture since the human body does or does ask to stay in motion. The other crucial thing is to sleep 8 hours a day.
The production quality of this video is insane!!!!
staring at your monitor from an elbow distance sounds like a great way to get myopia
its over 8 inches away from ur eyes so its not possible aslong as its not right infront of ur face blocking ur periphal vision u cant get myopia search it up
I heard keeping a fist distance away is a better alternative to a completely open hand distance
Wow, thanks for this detailed guide, Prince!
So lowering the chair made me able to control better but then I am naturally moving my arm away from my body because I m unable to do make long flicks or rotate 180 when in this position.
Send an image of your form to Prince on discord (oblivityprince), will give you feedback on how to implement it.
Imagine only having 800 views. This deserves wayyyy moreee
Most helpful gaming ergonomics vid in the world . Keep going man 💪
u guys are so good with tips. ty guys. i'll buy oblivity to support
It’s hard to find smaller (or medium size called before) mousepads recently if you’re small desk users.
Great video, it's interesting to see that every pro has good or bad form of aiming and that you don't need to be close to your monitor to be a good player.
my desk has no space like yours does, mine is a wooden table that only has space in the middle, the right side and the left side are cabinets (connected together)
Omg the quality of this video>>>>>
wait, my monitor distance, height and tilt is on point bro
I have had back problems forever, so I always had to figit around to see my monitor correctly without straining my back. Also felt like I couldn’t see targets very well because the 1 arm method for monitor distance. This has helped substantially, also my monitor was also was way too high. I had the center of my eyes at the middle almost bottom of the monitor.🤦🏻♂️
My monitor isn't adjustable, and I don't have anything to raise it properly without support having to sit on my mousepad (I have a Skypad 4), and my keyboard is gaint (full size with 2cm border on each side, but its the only NKRO one I own), so I can't move it much. I feel comfortable with a 70-90 degree tilt. My keybinds also feel strange at less than 70, and feel right at 90 degrees. My hand is placed uncomfortably though, because the numpad and extra keys offsets my keyboard.
Great video, I loved watching it.
bros eyes r majestic af 😮
W video, enjoyed the tips! ill be trying these out 😎
Deserves more views and subs! I’m going to try these
My big issue is i thought when playing knb i had to use my chairs elbow resters. Even tho ive been doing it for years i felt that they always mess up my consistent aim. I see that you dont use them at all and rest your arm in the table itself with a healthy angle. This is a change I have to try and see! Thanks for the video! Even after years of playing also at high level of competitive gaming i still find ergonomics hard to stick with. And end up blaming my sens for it. Thanks again!
I have been struggling with this forever, thanks for the help
Helped me so much i ranked up from g1 to p1 in 1 day thank you so much bro
Bro how can you draw all these conclusions without mentioning the size of the monitor? Say you have a 60 inch TV and you place it at an "elbow distance"?
Useful as always!
Thanks, coach!
How much difference in distance do you think a 27” monitor would need?
my chair isnt tall enough for my desk in order to comfortable rest my arms on my desk
FINAALLLLYYYYYYYYY!!!! THANK YOU SO MUUCCHHH!!!! ILY BRO!!
I do not understand how not having your monitor centered vertically would be beneficial. Or maybe a bit lower to better see the higher part of the screen, as most things happen there
My arm feels hard to move, but if i try to increase the chair height my arm starts to kinda float and it becomes exhausting really fast. I'm using an arm sleeve and Artisan Zero Mid mousepad. My pad is far back so only my wrist is on it because if i put my arm on the mousepad it's practically impossible to move at all
Man this is such a goated video , Thank You for the info mate much appreciated.
this guy makes some kick ass interesting videos
Amazing video
I can't adjust my monitor to a comfortable distance because the monitor stand is shaped like a triangle, that's almost as wide as my monitor, so i have to put my monitor on my mousepad which means that when i flick i hit my mouse against the monitor stand, and when my mouse hits the monitor stand it usually disconnects. Also I can't get a monitor stand because my monitor has a stand that allows me to just click the monitor into the stand, without any screws, and it also doesnt support any other monitor stands.
Is there a gaming setup that automates all of this for me? I want to sit the same way at the same distance with the same everything every time.
Bro the amount of researched and tips and attention to details is crazy 😈😈🔥🔥 this is the best form video I’ve seen
this is peak quality content
One of the actual good guide on youtube
I never really watched or thought about aim form when playing games but after seeing this I realized going through different gear with different placement of them(form) the past 10 years (not intentionally but because all gears are shaped different, including desk and chair) what I stick to now is surprisingly similar to the setup you have. Thumbs up for going through the research and having it explained.
Would've been nice if you made this video for me 10 years ago, so I didn't have to go through 10 years to find my ideal form 😂
I have a desk shelf, even with the monitor on the lowest settings its still about 3 fists taller than the desk, the monitor cant tilt the angle
My personal problem with my setup is my table's height, that cannot be changed, it's one of those ikea with the drawers, it just feel weird when im at home gaming, unlike the table at my office.
I see myself rising my chair a lot for it to feel similiar, but then comes the problem where my feet aren't touching the floor, wich people say is bad posture...
Also this is a really well made video, you deserve more subs and views Oblivity, much love.
So one thing we can suggest is getting a footrest in this case, this will completely support your posture as well as give you a bit more freedom to adjust.
There are options where the footrest is height adjustable.
@@oblivityofficial Thank you very much for replying and helping, i will surely try your solution.
you can buy ikea table with legs that you twist and change height, though they are really tedious, and takes time to get exact same, but you can also use them normally, and its pretty low, OLOV adjustable legs, every toher electric desk is still too high, there might be a few rare ones that go really low, but they expensive
Such insightful and quality content, u deserve a million subs!
I kinda have a small desk so i just keep my little part of monitor stand on the mousepad.
Damn I ignorantly don't know what Oblivity is but this video is incredible. I'll peep it!
Yep i know now why i have shoulders fatigue and why i couldn’t aim up bec simply i was leaning forward on the desk and now i need to change chairs bec mine doesnt go lower enough but hopefully it will help the neck/shoulder and back fatigue hope so 😭😭🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
my problem is that i have a monitor that i cant change the angle of , the desk is too high , the chair is not a not adjustable , my keyboard isnt consistent , W and Shift dont always work , and bad mouse ( my monito is 900p 60hz tn with shit colors )
whats my solution
I feel like my table is a bit height for me its 75 cm but it would be a bit tricky to lower it cause its a diy 4meter long desk
yo this guide is fucking crazy, i havent played for a week now so i was obviously shit but right after i did this i got mvp every match it was crazy
6:05 this curve is blocking ur elbow usage so u cant properly aim to Y axis cause ur forearm abut to the table
Very helpful thank you. Keep up the great work!
to sum everything up, its all about preferance
What about being in forward tilted position, like straight up army position that pashaBiceps showed once you should do in you want to be ready for game, instead of lean back position? Does it give any gain or is it just psychological? Looks like most pros don't even touch chair with their back during tournaments.
What would be the case for monitor size? I got a 32 inch
This video is insanely valuable thank you for your work
incredibly good and well presented video
this was super helpfup i think the only thing that i struggle with is my chair was p cheap and im on the smaller side so i cannot comfortably sit up straight in my chair and be close enough because it is not adjustable
In the case of the Logitech MX Trackball mouse, I only positioned it at the same height as my keyboard ?
Just the video I was looking for! Thanks!
very good video... super informative
Like I have a shelf on peripherals on desk and how can i improve like my ergonomics
been having troubles with my chair height. having it higher gives me neck pain and lower feels like my arms are sticking to the table/mousepad a lot when doing larger flicks. Gonna take some time to find a good balance in between now that I know the neckpain comes from the chair being too high and me leaning forwards. I thought I was just too used to having the chair too low and this new "good" posture would just take time to get used to. Ill play around with it and hopefully will find a working solution :D Great video!
Yeah bro i have the same issue everybody was saying to have chair height a little bit higher to have neutral shoulders position but i just cant adjust and the shoulders/neck and back fatigue is unbearable and now i need to change chairs bec mines doesnt go down bec i changed the chair lift 😂😂
love your videos bro, can you do the optimal color setting for valorant (monitor setting and VGA color setting)
Coming soon.
i love this info but i know im still gonna sit like a gremlin and stand up with pain just to be shit still
Hello, friend, I have a BenQ XL2720Z 27 inch 1080p, I am 2 meters away as they recommend between 1.5 and 2 meters, but I still move my eyes to the extreme sides of the monitor with a native aspect ratio of 16:9, what can I do in these cases, buy one of 22 or 24 inches, also I can't exceed 32 or more because my room is very small
so should my keyboard arm and my mouse arm be on the desk or off the desk, and if its off the desk should it be resting on my chair arm rest?
Great video, amazing quality ❤
Can you do a more in depth video about chair and desk height I’m struggling alittle
finally waited a long time
Great content man!
Great video, thanks.
Thanks for all the info, really appreciate it!
having small desk for many years i was using armrest, even now i have a longer/deeper one, i keep using armrest because i'm used to it... :/
this is by far the best video i have seen about form , thank you COACH PRINCE & OBLIVITY ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥😈😈😈
so i have a small desk which makes contact with the desk impossible as exlplained here 3:39.this is because the armwrests hit the feet of the chair(sry not a native speaker dont know how to call those)
We don't quite get it, apologies.
Send an image of your setup to Prince on discord: Oblivityprince.
High quality valuable content!
Very good video! I'm using pretty much exact ergonomic to the one T3xture is using, and always have😄
im 5'8 with a adjustable desk and chair just not sure where they should be at with height wise
how would u set up a second monitor? as I use one since I stream and for general utilization.
What about a 27 inch monitor and the desk is not adjustable
I just brought a full size hall-effect keyboard, is that going to affect the keyboard positioning?
and here we have PROD
this actually helped me getting a bit more comfortable to play but i got a problem with my keyboard and my monitor front of my keyboard is touching my monitor feet should i buy table mount?
Thank you so much for the video! I play Valorant, and all I play is the back of my left shoulder hurts, so why is that?
@Oblivity how much exactly you tilt your screen ? if you put measure app from iPhone on screen on the long ege of the phone whats your tilt ? -10 or -15 ?? or what ??
@1:04 Are those monitor tilt angles on their monitors real or just assumptions? I've always used a 19 degree angle (as of last 2 years). @5:40 I always found myself leaning forward and I always thought it was cause i had my monitor too far but this whole time it mightve been because my chair height is too high. Great video.
Amazing video!
I have somewhat controversial opinion on keyboard positions. I have pretty unique wrist genetics, so for me the inward tilted keyboard cause a lot of fatigue and inacuracy with pressing buttons on timing, so I do the exact opposit. I put my keyboard quite far from my mousepad and tilt it outwards. It provides me with really comfortable position for wrist and arm as a whole. But it's probably only working on me because unique genetics. I have the same problems with "relaxed" claw grips, for me they're more agressive and uncomfortable then classic "agressive" claw grips. But both are not ideal, so it's only choise between unstable ftip, which is fun for me, and really stable palm grip, which is no fun for me
And for the record i have strong forearm muscles and tendons because i am a rock climber, so it's not the problem with my personal physical form