Multiple Personalities: The Next Hip New Social Contagion?
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"Hearing voices", they're just thoughts lol
Schizophrenics hear voices. Not these losers.
There's a difference between auditory halucinations and thoughts, but I don't think that's happening here.
This is good. If they call us right wing racists we can not only say it’s just one of our personalities but claim victim points at the same time
I must remember that. A few years ago someone gave me a tip on dealing with pronouns at staff meetings. He advised I say. “I have Asperger’s and don’t do social situations.” It has worked wonderfully 😊
Now if I get called a fatphobe or a racist or whatever, I will reverse it and call them an ableist and accuse them of discrimination against Ronin, my altar who is triggered by obese people because he kept our system safe from our ginormous abusive mother.
Try saying that your alter is black, sit back and watch the fireworks.
@@DepDawg You mean "alter" not altar. But it's OK since you have Asperger's.
I don't think a court has ever acquitted someone with DID and I'm not even sure it's a real disorder. I've definitely seen dissociated people, but multiple personalities is just a manipulation tactic.
This is a great idea! It will blow CRT all to hell!
This was really popular on tumblr back in 2010. Most culture war issues are about 10 years behind tumblr.
It was around in the early to mid 90s as well.
Tell me what's next! I must know!
Good point, it really is about one decade behind.
Soul-bonders/Otherkin I guess@@gingeralex4009
@@zxyatiywariii8 Mental illness never goes out of fashion. Multiple personality disorder in a transgender context was depicted in the Hammer film Dr Jekyll and Sister Hyde in 1971. Remade as Dr Jekyll And Ms Hyde in 1995.
they have been told that individuality is evil and yet the human urge is toward individuality. They want to be special so bad but are so terrified of being kicked out of the hive, they make up any kind of nonsense and the weirder it is the more they confirm one another's kook. I don't know how humans are going to survive this.
Excellent point.
My hope is in the reality that this world the Left is creating is not real and it won't work!
Bud Light met up with the consequences of the real world. Businesses are leaving the looting, drug addicted, crime ridden, homeless Democrat run cities.
Companies are no longer wanting to hire the nut case Left. The wealthy are starting to not donate to these out of touch with reality universities.
When normal people stop rewarding these insane Democrat Politicians with their vote, the Progressive Left will lose power and be motivated to get back to a saner middle. We need to quit going along with this insanity and help these people meet up up with the reality of their fantasy thinking sooner!
We are legion and we vehemently resent the lack of cats in this video! 😤😤😤😤
I had a friend who 'came out' as D.I.D. in the mid-2000s, among a group of very positive and affirming people, and I witnessed how total affirmation inevitably leads to ethical problems. Our friend was female with an 8-year old, male alter, although the term 'little' wasn't being used--I saw it become an issue among the girls in the group of friends (the ones who believed) and how some got upset when we'd be somewhere drinking, or meet a person she was dating, and we understood there's no absolute memory firewall between the 'alters'. So, inevitably, if you buy a drink for the person, or introduce them to a potential partner, you're breaking a law or trafficking's this 'little' (who never ages). I watched this unfold while the antidote of skepticism seemed out of reach for those who had committed most to affirmation. It was fascinating.
You mean after decades of kids being encouraged to leave their identities unsettled, the next social contagion is more unsettled identities? Surely you jest!
Don't forget being pro drug both pharmaceutical and domestic!
@@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756Pharmaceutical and illegal/black market?
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 I was more thinking over perscriptions and the positivity towards many party drugs then the black market. Also the online orders for hormones and pseudo steroids that are popular.
A lot of people generally have the idea if a drug doesn't immediately hurt them then why not take it, rather than the old school dont take a drug even if its harmless unless you need it
Ha. It's almost like this could have been predicted...?
We can reason ourselves into madness. That's what I get out of this.
I wouldn't call it reasoning.
@@gaylehudson7267 suggest ourselves into illness would be a better word maybe?
They aren't reasoning.
I would say "justifying" ourselves into madness as an avoidance strategy with respect to maturity.
@@gaylehudson7267 Reasoning can lead to mental breakdown if it is faulty enough. I think I am X, therefore I am X. This highlights the danger of pure reason without the testing of assumptions.
Imagine being this first guy and thinking starting to smoke pot is a good idea. 😂
I’ve know a group of people claiming to have DID, this all started probably 5 years ago.
We are literally talking about one person in a friend group claiming DID, within a year, all 8 people (I am sorry, I mean “bodies” as they like to be referred to), claim DID.
Also maybe no surprise, they all identified as trans before claiming DID.
They all have a British alter, and a “little” alter.
This also gets them out of doing anything they want because they can claim they are dissociating or that it’s an alter that did something. It’s used as an excuse for everything.
I know for a fact, they did not have any repeated long term childhood trauma. But to them, being told to clean your room is trauma, breaking up with someone is trauma.
Most people don’t believe me when I say these things. They say “well trans people could become friends before realizing they were trans” “those with DID could naturally come together before they realize they are systems”
I don’t know what to do because I feel like I am the only sane person out there. The people I am talking about, some are family members so I can’t just avoid them. I don’t just see some of the surface level insanity, I see the having to live with them and have them talk like babies to each other insanity. Or have to listen to them talk in a fake British accent and pretend like it’s normal.
It seriously feels like it’s a competition within the group to see who can have the most disorders. Of course they all claim to have POTS and EDS, some claim they need wheelchairs.
Four lived together for 6 months and did ZERO cleaning because they all claimed to be 100% helpless. One claimed they needed help getting from their wheelchair to the toilet when they were walking the previous day.
This is just scratching the surface.
It starts with needing a stick to walk with, then a wheelchair, then an electric wheelchair, then morbid obesity. The skeletal problems from cross-sex hormone use don't help with the infirmity.
"This also gets them out of doing anything they want because they can claim they are dissociating" - I work in a psychiatric hospital and, up until a few years back, those with BPD/EUPD who self-harmed would be told they would be discharged from hospital if they did so while under our care - generally a good therapeutic intervention to establish that they can control their behaviour and to ensure that such behaviour was not reinforced by caregivers.
Now they "dissociate", often while exhibiting signs that they are clearly present in the moment, as this now means that they must accept zero responsibility for their actions, be given the attention they crave and work their way up the local league table of f-ups. Consequently, we've also seen admission periods go from up to a week to, in some instances, over a year.
And with the "be kind", "believe x", "living their truth" and a refusal to challenge said nonsense, we've ended up where those running the show are essentially being controllled by those they are supposed to be supporting.
@@shonkyindustries This is the logical outcome of anti-psychiatry meshed with consumerism. The customer is always right.
@@liberality Giving them what they want, rather than what they need. Defining their "individuality" via whatever hip new nonsense they can fake, and gradually melting into another homogenous checklist of neurodiverse/mental disorder/physical disability points to LARP.
As a British Citizen I find this to be grotesque cutural appropriation 😀
He should have looked into whether cannabis is thought to be a risk factor in the emergence of psychotic symptoms, rather than looking into "plurality."
…reminds me of that one guy who was possessed by a feminine essence after taking fungus and going to a Lady Gaga concert.
I tend to think mushrooms would be more likely than cannabis. . . especially since they've been pushed so hard recently as a "cure" for childhood trauma.
Ngl, I looked into this idea myself, because I had a horrific childhood; but it's a wild and unregulated mess out there, where it's almost impossible to know what strain/species/etc. one will be ingesting, not to mention how that will interact with an already-potentially-susceptible mindset. . . and/or with the "shamens" who offer to "guide" people when they're high.
I know a lot of people who use cannabis regularly and it hasn't altered their sense of identity the way mushrooms can do. . .
But this is all just conjecture, of course. I wonder if there's ever going to be an actual study done? I know a lot of people would volunteer, but it would need to be done in a country where neither substance is banned.
Mind-altering substances alter minds shock.
There’s soooo many people on psych meds that smoke and it’s so dangerous. I have also had patients go into psychosis from weed. Crazy how it can effect some
I am more and more convinced every day that all this nonsense is really just about keeping people in an immature state. It prevents children from maturing, reverts adults back to an immature childlike state and punishes anybody for being a mature adult and using the kinds of tools that are marks of that maturity whether it be discernment, self discipline, sacrifice or otherwise.
One of the things they love to do is make up rules and change them at will whenever it suits them. If you've ever played a game with a child this should look very familiar.
I agree. It also make people quite aimless, easier to distract/manipulate and if to be wholly occupied with identity seeking you need a somewhat stable environment. Which might explain why they often lean for big or authoritarian state that in theory can provide for them and push away those who disagree.
I'm quite not sure what a wholly "identity jerker" provide to a state tho.. Easily data mined? A willing consumer? lab rat? votes (if that's needed)?
This is when I play with my 5 year old niece. The rules change every five minutes.
Children have tantrums, adults not so much. They want destabilised groups of people because it’s a lot of tantrum energy that can be directed towards their political ends - if a lot of people have a tantrum all at once then it’s probably a revolution.
It’s true. These days you see a lot of adults making posts about missing their childhood, lamenting about a time when things were simpler, etc, and all these new social trends gives them a way of “going back”. You can’t actually go back, time only works in one direction, but it’s a way of validating self-absorption.
If you wonder why it seems like their is an abundance of middle school girl instability that never grows up, here is one cause
As someone who grew up in the first days of the internet, it is quite clear that children shouldn't be on it unsupervised.
My mom was diagnosed with MPD back in the early 90s when it was a fad. She didn't have it, of course, but it was kind of forced on her by her therapist. She said it took her ten years to unscramble her brain.
Sounds like my ex.
I dodged a bullet there.
Did she think each of her moods was a different personality?
@@Kelsea-im8ob I don't know for sure, but I don't think so. Her therapist told her that was the case. Her therapist is still practicing.
@theGentlemanCaller73 what's his name
A therapist can’t diagnose a mental health disorder only help manage it. A psychiatrist has to diagnose. This therapist shouldn’t be practicing
I’m old enough to remember when fronting was slang for being a posturing bull sh**er.
We need to start calling people out on their BS more often. That’s how we got here
It sounds like a thing for people to do in "their room" in their parents house long after they should have taken up self sufficiency and moved out.
You might want to read Sybil exposed by Debbie Nathan and Making Monsters by Ofshe and Watters to see how we're going to repeat the past because we refused to purge this madness from psychology
Oh FFS Benjamin... *FFS* ... ANOTHER social contagion... this makes my stomach hurt. 🇺🇸
It's all a part of the pro-victim approach to intersectional jenga. (A game I just made up in which each piece has a word from the religion and you guess which one will take the tower down.
That's a great idea.
I call it oppression fetish. Can’t be oppressed if you’re male, middle class, and white.
These people also use their issues as an excuse not to do things (like work or clean). Most people with disabilities or other issues in their life still try to live life as best as possible in spite of everything. It’s not “I am a minority / a women / in a wheelchair so I am helpless”.
If you’re doing well in life then that’s proof you’re not oppressed and helpless. So if feels the goal of fakers is never to improve their situation in life, the goal is to collect more and more issues, see who can be the biggest victim, who can be the most helpless.
You could also call it disability Pokémon, gotta catch them all (DID, CPTSD, ADHD, EDS, POTS, autism, depression (obviously), anxiety. (Funny how most don’t claim BPD though). Or disability BINGO where you’re trying to fill in the entire card.
@@user-bz2gz8yd3c Feminists & minorities absolutely play victim. White people, straight people, and men can absolutely be oppressed.
Other than that I think you're right on the mark.
Not sure if I should share, but if anyone comes across this having thoughts they feel like aren't their own, this might help-
For many years I had negative voices in my head that sometimes felt separate from my own thoughts. It caused a lot of problems in my life. After a deep meditation session that was for 4 hours, I realized that each negative voice was rooted in childhood trauma (I knew of the trauma, and had been in therapy but never connected the negative thoughts/voices to it). During a separate meditation, I visualized the voices as people, and stomped on the visualized wire connecting us.
I haven't had negative thoughts/bad voices since. It's been 5 years. I'm doing incredibly better.
Excellent comment. This is like cbt with a trauma therapist. Brilliant. Thank you
That is very powerful ❤
Looking forward to the emergence of the plurality critical community of tulpaphobes, with associated gurus, slogans and merch.
Internal Family Systems therapeutic model is a very effective tool for self-help. Don’t throw baby out with bath water.
Agreed.
I suffer from NoFucksLeftToGiveitus Disorder - can I get a bumper sticker for that?
The guy who went down the rabbit hole of his own dope experience,
and after the event.
21century naval gazing, yuk!
It’s actually making a comeback, it was the Hip New Thing right when I first got on the Internet before being subsumed by people faking OCD and then Depression/Anxiety and then the Mogai-types
The thing is the newest version has MERGED with the otherkin (which were a subsection of the Mogai-rainboe crowd)
So now they’re pretending to have DID where the other personality is a fictional character that they like
It seems less like "faking it" and more like a large percentage of the population is extremely lonely, especially children and young ppl whose only socialization is with ppl online finding groups who will supply "explainations' and diagnosis for normal human experiences.
@@Gingerblaze The larger the online community, the harder people have to try at attention seeking in order to feel special. People who have high-quality relationships among small groups don't need to do this, because they get their self-worth from people that actually care about them. I suspect the problem is the scale and impersonal nature of Internet communication, i.e mental illness is intrinsic to the platform because we haven't evolved with this form of mass communication.
How can this generation of young people have such a warped concept ( or perhaps no concept?) of what it is to be a complex, unique personality ? Did they expect to feel like a robot?
I thought the next thing was the normalization of PDFiles. That seems par for the course.
I have a friend who identifies this way. I think she has some honest-to-god sexual trauma in her past, though. She is also a they/themer but very chill about it, definitely one of those taking on nonbinary to avoid sexual encounters/interests due the trauma rather than a "look at me" type. So I gotta wonder if she got hooked in through a therapist rather than internet crazy.
19:00 Somewhere in here: there is speculation that the voices people hear in schizophrenia are just their own personal thoughts (or memories), and the part of their brain that identifies them as "self" has gone wonky. So I would bet DID is the same mechanism. There's similar disorders where the part of your brain that identifies your own body parts as yours doesn't work (dysphoria/dysmorphia in the true sense), which might also explain the connection to trans for this group of people.
I think you have nailed it right there.
Somewhere on youtube I heard some psychologist say that he had a take on autistic ppl having that bit that connects them in their mind to their physical gender can get severed. Like that bit of wiring isn't connecting. Similar idea eh, disconnected wiring making you unable to recognize something is a part of you. And he'll actually work with them to recognize the connection with talk therapy, you can build it back up.
I think this is the next one too. I have two siblings that catch all the social contagions that go around. Aitheism, polyamory, suddenly realizing they are trans/nonbinary and demanding everyone now call them sometimes else. This is the next one I'm expecting after they get bored of what they currently have. My prediction is it will be in time for the next presidential election, in four years.
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry
Yes. This will give them multiple opportunities to focus on themselves.
Just wanted to express my appreciation for the Chesterton's Fence joke. Sick burn. Also hilarious. 😂
Please do regular check-ins on this community and other weird ones that you find.
I’ve never felt so normal. Thank you 👏🏼
So, what if one personality backs Biden and the other Trump? How interesting it is to have those with their own internal "social media" to be using Internet social media. What could go wrong?
😆😅🤣🤣😂
Same difference, just in different packages.
A very interesting suggestion. If some people think social media is a normal form of communication and internalise it, no wonder they're struggling.
These people are just obsessed with themselves.
Thanks for taking the time to share this!
I'm not on board the plural bus, however, I do have a spiritual belief that our souls are split when we come here. Half comes with us and half waits behind. The connection between said halves being our mind.
So on that note, I don't ever feel truly alone, so long as I haven't lost my mind and I believe it's important to maintain a connection with one's self.
If I believed that, I'd want to punch my spiritual self for allowing me to be born into the hellhole I was born into, while that spiritual self was able to stay safely in the spiritual realm and not have to live in my childhood life. . .
I was on a cptsd subreddit, someone asked a 'do you' question, I said 'nope ' and got banned for being unsupportive.
I joined to advertise my book. Not worth it.
A few years ago, after a deep breathing meditation of around 45 minutes, I spontaneously had a warm energetic pulse shoot up slowly but firmly within me (from my solar plexus to my throat chakra) and what followed was a conversation with a voice in my head that felt clearly distinct from myself. It said it was my oversoul and I must say I was at that time somewhat baffled by this experience. It could be something that I created myself entirely or maybe I was interacting with another point of intelligence that was separate from me.
I am one of those cats 😺 that believes in everything being interconnected and that everything is happening within one shared consciousness framework of intelligent energy, that also shows up as our Earthly experience. In my view. God is the underlying consciousness energy that animates you, me and all that we can possibly interact with: It allows for being, is the animating principle and It permeates everything. It is the All. So I guess I was talking to God and always am talking to God.
All this to say that I do believe it can very well be possible to interact with 'others' (other beings, intelligences, energies, give it a name, who knows for sure, right?) within yourself that feel distinct from yourself, as I've experienced this too, also on other occasions. I am very open to this possibility. But you will sure as hell never find me on this reddit, because the framework of language and thinking that is offered on there seems wholly unhelpful. It's clear that many of these young people encourage each other to hyperfixate on very normal human things like acting different in different situations and around different people or having multiple aspects of your personality (that can also be either feminine or masculine), only to keep fragmenting themselves with endless silly labels in order to make themselves feel special and unique, as well as make life psychologically way too complicated for themselves.
I feel grounded spirituality would be very beneficial for kids struggling with these obsessive thoughts, but instead they get served (and keep serving each other) narcissistic junk food for the brain via social media. Open-mindedness is a great thing and open-mindedness gets fostered in the youth of today because of the information age they are living in, but you can become so openminded that your brain will literally fall out and this is what is unfortunately happening a lot nowadays. Trans ideology is a perfect and intriguing example of this.
One thing is for certain: all these people with their tulpas are creating one giant weird mutant monster tulpa-egregore! 🤣
Hiya, the main problem you point to comes from confusing two kinds of perspectives. One holds onto a fixed personal identity that makes up the classical ensouled body, spirit is implicitly seen as more important, but body is inextricable from the integrated notion of self (not from abstracted concepts of soul, spirit and the like). This personal identity makes one unity that centres experience, it is a vantage point establishing the angle of view of the external world, whose identity is maintained as strongly as that of the self. The essence of this first perspective is that it takes the personal identity as a vehicle to accessing the world. It is a pluralistic vision in so far as there is no ontological primacy of yourself, which forces you to step out of yourself and view yourself as an object of the world, one of its constituents. This however brings about the falling out of experience. Experience is now something confined to a body; you inadvertently use the expression yourself - "voice in my head". (Mind me, that's more complicated because body is used as a symbol of objective reality, and so is the entire physical, or more appropriately visual-physical domain, but very rarely is full-fledged materialism that reduces mind to body in a way that corresponds, but is not precisely, to the naive notion I am presenting, actually considered. What is central really is that the world is subject to an order of scaling and interplaying semi-fixed objects such as the mentioned personal identity or a buck knife. These objects have certain essence, quite rigid form, like what makes the knife a knife, it can lose its knifeness and cease to exist in actuality. What's more, they have distinct boundaries and are self-sustained - what's responsible for their persistence in the world while they are so persisting is themselves. Again it's simplified because we often think of composite objects, maintained by certain forces keeping lesser objects within a given form, scaling down to something atomic in the proper sense. It's just a broad sketch. The most palpable boundary is the one I mentioned between your self and the world, but beyond this within the world without. And it is precisely this shift that makes up the fissure between the two perspectives, it's really a central feature which distinguishes them.) Whatever conceptual device is used for this, the point is that even though we may consider the domain of the spirit in likeness to cartesian split, as something ontologically irreducible to matter, the objective world still remains and grounds us. We always return to it as something fundamental, as the space whose content you are. Ok, now we are stuck in this first perspective of rigid identities of objects, but we notice that internal experience just doesn't go away. The within/without distinction is an inescapable form structuring your experience (transcendental form for Kant) and the access to the second stage of this perspective when you count yourself as an object of the world is mediated by it. This means, we must deal with the content of our consciousness as something in and of itself, and cannot skip to the world right away. (again the same simplification) And the only thing that remains is fitting the experience into the scheme of these rigid identities somehow. Well that means, the personal identity I mentioned at the beginning is taken as just such fixed object, and this leads us directly to the second perspective and the centre of the divide: You experience an internal multitude. That is the impetus of the whole breaking between the perspectives in this case of "pluralism of identities". It doesn't even have to be as pronounced as the experience you had. Just look carefully at your dreams, or notice a proper empathic moment when you feel the other person or more disturbingly feel an animal. That's the second perspective calling, the phenomenological perspective. There the order of rigid identities dissolves, some continuity is preserved of course, but what makes an identity is now much more unstable, and your grasp over it correspondingly much more slippery. Alright, how does this tie to what you were talking about? Your personal identity under this phenomenological perspective becomes much more vulnerable to sudden disturbances, poking into the membrane of the soap bubble of your consciousness and, what has apparently happened to you explicitly, invading this sacred space where your self always held exclusive dominion. You can catch the tendency to contain it "It could be something that I created myself entirely", but that just won't do when you shift to the second perspective. There is the self which has continuity throughout your retention of memories and then there is something new. You try to make your self bigger and it just some unchecked feature, but it speaks to you, so you are clearly not bigger than it. But it's just as you are, a passenger of this space of consciousness, which until now belonged to you exclusively, meaning you identified your self with this space, took it for another feature of the self, the house that spirit built. Here you have two ways to go, stay with your self on the now sunken level where you have to deal with alien intelligences of the same nature and form as you are (except not native as far as you can tell), or you can begin to contend with the space itself, what's above both of you down there, which turns out is another personal identity just of a different order.
Spirituality helps so much. On the one hand I don't hate that people are finally noticing they're fragmented, but the exact wrong thing to then do is to try and get more fragmented instead of how can i get more whole. Even if you are dealing with another being you can still treat it as you would a part of yourself. Cuz everything is god, is you, like you said.
UA-cam has a plethora of **systems** online switching amd discussing their DID and getting people to send them things, mail, etc. Validation. They don't seem to leave home much.
I haven't watched the video yet, just saw the title, but, that's an old one Benjamin, from the 70's and early 80's. Sybil, Billy Milligan, etc. look what happened after that...followed by the satanism hysteria.
Metokur was ahead of everyone on Tumblr crazy.
I miss Metokur so, so much.
Wish i had had him one before he retired
I miss him. . .
This is a perfect illustration of the blind leading the blind. Ffs.
11:21 “I for one appreciate your input.” That gave me a chuckle.
%100 this will go mainstream. Already on its way.
Wow, the art of over complication has really reached mastery!
At least most of my imaginary Friends know what they are.
I feel like the whole world turned into this weird cult that I didn't join and my parents didn't raise me in, do I have no idea how I got here.
Look, I have the imagination to create characters. So, I learned to write. This put my imagination in a safe, productive place and I can function in society.
This is awesome! I think it's about time we get some reality TV themed on "Plurals on Acid", and "Wokesters", with the latter being comprised of woke people tirelessly lashing out at each other. And then, you know, how our young children "know best" who they are, and how they "correctly" identify? Well, something very interesting happened with my child, who now identifies as a "woke slayer" which is essentially foundationally based on the absolute elimination of all woketards and DEI-tards. Should I be worried? I mean, my child knows best right?
This was great
This sounds like another identity category fad, like “what’s your sign?” (and the people compelled to deep dive into what house what planet is in) and the Meyers/Briggs classifications (same: there are ways of subcategoration of how each of your four categories are expressed).
I told my friend all her so-called neurodivegent issues could be seen in her chart and she got annoyed with me lol.
"I'm not faking, but my headmate totally is."
Are we going through Tumblerisms again? Can't wait for other kin to go back in fashion, that was some funny shit.
This unfortunately happens every few years. It happened in Gen X from a TV movie. Suddenly a lot of people were claiming to have multiple personalities. Good to know there are still some sane therapist out there. I’m not going to say it’s 100% false, but it’s not at all like these people describe if it is. It’s caused by severe trauma and the person suffers blackouts and lost time. The point of therapy involving it is to deal with the underlying trauma and rejoin the split. If it is real, there are very few documented cases, it’s extremely rare. You’d most expect it in someone that faced extended torture as an example of the type of trauma it requires.
It's fine when younger children create imaginary friends and characters. And even when you're older it's completely ok to create characters, like in a game or if you're writing something or are into cosplay etc. But THIS is on a whole other level because these people actually believe what they imagine is reality, and make it seem like a legitimate thing. That's pretty scary. They do need psychiatric help but not for reasons they think they do. We live in a world of normalized delusions, it's total insanity.
Imagine focusing on yourself and your various psychopatological, or just plain normal psychological experiences so much, you forget that there is the ONE CONSCIOUS YOU who's doing all this observation.
The only impression I'm left with from all of this stuff is terminal narcissism: there are SOOOOOOO many ways to be special.
Back at school (40 years ago) we’d take the piss out of people like this by saying “but I want to be different, just like everybody else!”
All we can do is pray and spread awareness to parents so they keep their kids off the internet.
You are NOT Legion from Mass Effect 2 God damn it! What is this world coming to?
Damn, this is so dark. Not only is the questioner cleary a child or someone with metal issues, but every post their was grooming with sophisticed language. Like this is accepted cult behavior
I enjoyed this. Will you be doing anymore videos in this style? The DID thing is such a weird phenomenon.
Can't say we (no pun intended) didn’t see this coming.
How is the appropriation of the Tulpa received by the Buddists, I wonder.
i was looking for a long video with mellow voice to fall a sleep to....but this is way to unsettling!
Crazy, don't mind if I do!
This seems to be a systemic problem.
Plus no radical ideology is complete without a cringeworthy pun.
I work mostly individually and not in an office setting, but is any of this actually happening? I find it hard to believe people are being forced to indulge this serious pretense under threat of termination
Yes cuz mass formation psychosis that benefits marxist gnostic civilizational arsonists.
I miss these old-style videos of you reading things from the internet. All you need is a funky hat, and we'd be back in 2017 ❤
Yeah I’m thinking about getting back into this, especially if there’s an audience for it
@@BenjaminABoyce I think there would be an audience, because *no one* sleuths like you - you find interesting things, you go into some depth, and any commentary you give is astute, calm, and empathetic.
You may say I'm a solipsist,
But I'm not the only one
The worst part about the voices is when they sing in Spanish to the radio... I don't even know Spanish. I Listened to Man and his symbols by Carl Jung while working last summer and now when I read any of his books its in that voice. If only I could write down the rap lyrics it spits out when I wake up in the mornings, I would be famous.
Part of me thinks this fake and dangerous, but another part of me thinks this is hip and valid! 🤠
I barely made it through 6 minutes of this and rolled my eyes soooooooo hard I saw the inside of my skull. FFS....This has become just stupid. I'm waiting to see which of my (admittedly woke adjacent) friends come up with this crap. Needless to say, I'll be dropping/blocking them. (bitter sigh....drinks a LARGE shot of whiskey)
Prophet Boyce.
Alters can be formed. An interesting synergy with the egregore concept making the rounds in the last year or so.
What's the egregore concept?
@@sophiefuldauer An egregore is an updated take on "spirits." Something that is superphysical (beyond the physical) but not "supernatural" in the usual magical meaning of the word.
Climate is greater than the sum of the parts that make up weather. Evolution is greater than the sum of the parts that are individual organisms or species. This is what I mean by superphysical - something that is real, has existence and self-direction, perhaps even consciousness, and yet has independent existence beyond its physical components. This is something that hardcore materialists like Sam Harris can't process. Higher order beings. Higher order Egregores would be Mammon - greed for wealth, Michael - avenging justice, etc.
"The Stoa" had a panel discussion on this almost 2 years ago. John Robb, BJ Campbell, Patrick Ryan, Jordan Hall. It's also made the rounds in "The Meaning Crisis" corner - Paul Vanderklay, John Vervaeke, Jonathan Pageau, etc.
The creation of the Multiple Personalities - Alters - that Benjamin is discussing in this video seem quite similar to egregores. Self-directing patterns of information (personas - constructed personalities) brought into existence either by the victim themselves or by others working upon them. Done thoughtlessly, badly, or maliciously, such a thing is a corrupting spirit - a demonic possession.
Jesus it never ends
6:22 pretty much sums it up.
The authentic selves
I like this format -- just an exploration of a "hotbed" of a certain kind, punctuated with sardonic remarks.
You might think interviews are always higher value content, but after some time they start being a bit myopic, even if they serve to illustrate a larger trend (e.g. "my marriage destroyed due to XYZ").
The DID (formerly Multiple Personality Disorder) garbage has been around for ages, I've encountered it a lot in violence against women support services...clients would be introduced to it by dodgy counsellors, similar to recovered memories - iaterogenic.
16:40 "The nature of things" = the legal ramifications if your child-like 'alter' in an adult body takes an interest in 'bodily children'. The jails will be filling up.
Don't they need a personality before acquiring additional?
Benjamin, I am or was a multiple. Believe it or not, I'm also a Sperg. I only became aware of this in my 30s (not the Sperg thing, that was obvious right away) when I became aware of dissociating. I can't describe it right now but I could never go "YOu wanna see Jimmy?" and then switch into an alter like those kids on tiktok. That"s acting class and it's sad these kids are so bored. Sydney Watson had a piece featuring these videos and seriously it was 10,000 giant steps backward for me. That's not what it was like. I'm crying right now a little bit remembering the process
No "therapist" planted this. It was the startling memory flood that occurs when someone dies and you don't have to protect them anymore
It’s annoying me that people are taking this forum to mean that all people with this are just making it up or have been lied to. Dissociative disorders are very real. I’m sorry people are taking this and turning it into something it’s not, both those who romanticize the condition and those who deny it.
Check out Multiple Personality; Mental Disorder, Myth, or Metaphor? and When Psychiatry Battled the Devil.
"Each other" implies two people. "One another" implies more than that.
I thought we got past this 10 years ago..I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this picks up traction next tho. Not at all. We are a media push away from it
Spare us!!!😣
It occurs to me that this is just another hobby that they can share with their friends (a shared vocabulary etc etc) and if only their parents had got them off the screens and onto the sports pitch they’d all be a lot healthier in mind and body
This generation is gonna be lost well into, if not entire adult hood. Imagine if these were representative of society on Dec. 7th, 1941!
The plan would be much farther along than it is.
I'm a curious but polite singlet
I think you have to have at least two going, your real gender self and your cross-gender self.
#ZaphodBeebletrans, I call it. Get the two heads talking to each other.
This must be what playing DND with a schizophrenic feels like.
I think there is truth to D.I.D. I think it’s wrong to think that these identities are “real people” and I think many chronically online young people think they have this condition when they’re simply experiencing a desire to fit in. This subreddit is very dangerous if people are being encouraged to assume they have a condition they do not have, but it is a real condition caused by repeated childhood trauma. Also, making fun of the terminology like “fronting” and “headmates” is like making fun of any other technical jargon. It’s just that. Technical terminology. I also think, however, that brining gender and sexuality into this is ridiculous on the part of these subredditors- sorry, you can’t be multiple sexualities and genders (and only one of two genders at that). They’re just confusing people. Some of these people might have D.I.D, which is not a fun condition to have. They want to fit in and yes, it’s a social contagion, but it’s not entirely made up. It’s like people jumping on the autism bandwagon. It just hurts people who actually suffer from a very hard conditions when people romanticize this stuff. Please correct me if I’ve misunderstood your commentary.
Seeing some of these comments is very disheartening. This is a real mental condition. It doesn’t mean these people in their mind are “real”, but it’s a very complex condition and making fun of people who think they have it is one thing, but please don’t make fun of people who actually have this condition. It’s not just a fad and it’s not just woke bs. I say this as someone that’s really fed up with all this identity nonsense. This is not necessarily part of that nonsense.
Dude mixes weed with ADHD uppers, has some crazy thoughts, sobers up, and wonders why the voices went away...
😂😂😂
This stuff is wild, but interesting. I can't help but think that the "schizophrenic" nature of constant online content exposure must contribute to this. We have no way of knowing what being raised from birth with tiktok and youtube does to how person conceptualizes the self.
Amazing 🤦
Is this being taught in schools yet?
It's all that's being taught in 'schools'.
Look up SOGI curriculums in canada and PSHE in the uk. Lots of info about how it has been being implemented in wales.
The Reddit Thread is BS.
I've known a few dissociative people. Mine is more like mood and affect changes.
Perhaps you would feel differently about this if you spoke with the husband who confided in me after a 12 step meeting, that during intimacy with his wife, she could become triggered into the emotional and mental capability of a five year old.
He had to switch mode, as you say, from consenting adult husband to protective caregiver. He was polite in expressing the immediate loss of his erection.
He deeply loved his wife and accepted the lasting scars from her childhood trauma 💔
That sounds extremely manipulative. Especially to enter into a marriage without healing that.
Bullshit. Seek help