ua-cam.com/video/W7x9oMFtVLU/v-deo.htmlsi=0GerPx5YR2fKt1uk Just watch this video. A viewer said i can only play lee and no other character and kazuya was one of the characters i beat him with without even knowing combos. 😂😂😂
Weren't you a Kazuya player back in the day? These new age players don't know you can play any character in this game and nasty in other fighters too. C'mon, they don't know about your mean Vega in SF4 fam.
Watched that entire video. Earned a sub - that shit was gas If it's possible, think you can spot me a general tip I can hone on gameplay wise with Lars? I'd appreciate it
@@JayDoe-u5o he’s a cool guy but a lot of his takes are stupid as hell Mishima, Bryan and Steve players are super brainwashed by the Mainman elitist mentality. They’re literally incapable of respecting all the playstyles in tekken but their own
@@versatilelord8893you grouping them all in to one does nothing to prove your case there are plenty of players on those characters with way more respect than you i can tell
@ yes it does prove my case guy. Because I’m not talking about the ones who are knowledgeable and with common sense I’m talking about that loud toxic group that does exactly that. Complain & cry all day about how hard it is with their false execution excuse instead of looking at the mirror & reflecting on their own mistakes
I'm fed up with the elitists, execution lords and all that "harder this, harder that" chit chat bs that goes around fighting games. Only thing that matters is to WIN, and if you can't achieve it, go suck one, no one gives a damn about execution, specially in this watered down version of this game. GM as always being the realest, dude spitting facts, and I play Heihachi, always played Mishimas mostly, any one with eyes can see this game is easy as hell to play. If dude's be putting time to learn the game instead of discussing pointless crap, what a beautiful world would it be.
@@brucky556 kazuya fanboy, i was talking about intermediate players who say he is one of the hardest characters to play compared to others, when he is not, i hit bushin with him and he is not even my 5th sub character, he is very simple and straightforward character, nothing too difficult for any player to pick up him
@@raadbekatyzakov2029 so you base how hard he is on the fact that you hit bushin? People hit GoD with him, people hit GoD with every character, that holds absolutely no weight in determining how hard a character is. Also he's hard for new players yet its not too difficult for anyone to pick him up? Which is it?
@@Centro-centro he really did and it’s freaking sickening b/c that dumbass mentality has trickled into the majority of the community. Particularly the casual side
@@Centro-centro main man somewhat actually acknowledged I how strong kaz is in first 2 months and even said he is tired of kaz downplay when "Fix kaz ni**a" thing happened
Kazuya is a straightforward character but i think his difficulty stems from not having good panic moves(outside of heat), below average poking game, no evasive moves outside of slow ass d1+2 and b1+2, and no easy 14-15f standing launcher. He's hard for new players due to the execution requirements, and stays difficult for intermediate and high level due to his lack of the mentioned tools. Not really sure how showing off wavedash and iws2 in practice mode just completely invalidates the difficulty of the character 😂. I can do pewgf in practice mode but its much more difficult to implement in a real match, especially with online delay. He's definitely much easier in tekken 8 than previous games, but you can probably get more milage out of alot of other characters with less effort.
@NM-rj4gk it has no crushing or evasive properties so i wouldn't consider it a panic button. His only panic buttons i can think of is devil roar in heat and i guess d1+2 and b1+2, but the former is reactable and the latter just sucks ass lol
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Kaz is very watered down in terms of executional requirement, Yes block punishment via ewgf i13~ is difficult, but honestly that's it. yes he still has weakness via ssl/swl/ssl duck etc, but in 8 he has way more coverage plus you can delay ff2, cd1+2, ff4 and it'll catch. People don't understand the difficulty isn't in his inherent playstyle but in punishing correctly and spacing/movement.
@@superdupeninja8149Is it the character or player?, most kazuya players I play have like the weakest fundamentals, can't break throws, don't understand neutral, have no movement or ever side walk. In T8 no character is hard. Now if this was tag2 or t6 , then yeah he was hella hard. Like legit Mishima's were technical. I speak from playing kazuya since t6.
@@superdupeninja8149 Nah he's coincidentally easy and hard at the same time, like i explained. People just find it hard to know why he's difficult and it's always the wrong reasons.
Yeah but no one plays those dead games anymore it's a new era. saying it's all easy compared to older games barely any of the current fan base has played don't do nothing, besides rub people the wrong way. "Oh back in my day before you were born that shit was OD" "Oh you weren't born then fr? then you gotta just get Kaz to GoD Rank cuz he was much harder back then, just get good at the easier game that doesn't teach you how to get good and force you to do 50/50's" "Oh you want me to show you how to play kaz? nah I'm good, I'm not a kazuya player but he's easy tho"
1:53 sounded like he was about to spit a Kanye flow “wave dash wave dash wave dash wave dash wave dash OK! Kazuya mains think he hard and I said NO WAY” 😂
Yeah...don't let a 20+ year pro Lee tell you that things he can do easily aren't difficult to learn. Nobody jumps on the sticks and plays Kazuya like that. Learning wave dash and Electric is difficult. Implementing them into your gameplay is difficult. If the Mishimas aren't difficult, nobody in this game is.
Exactly lol 😂…I only starting getting good at electrics last year and I was playing on and off since T7. And this is practice mode, doing wave dashes and electrics in ranked is way different
@@Sigma_boy_3750Lee has the some of the best keep out in the entire game and FANTASTIC defensive options, those being: A hopkick, a high crushing df2, a high crushing counter hit launching 16f low (d3), and the best punch parry in the game. Wtf are you on about
ngl if he that easy to play then why is there only one kazuya player in the world in top 8 majors and before patch 1.05 nobody I MEAN NOBODY TOUCHED THAT CHARACTER in tournament at all EXCEPT KEISUKE after 1.05 i think hes really strong he does not need anything ele his kit is pefect but someone new to fighting games cannot pick this character up and get to blue ranks its just not possible bro with all due respect
When I went to college I learned about the Dunning-Kruger effect. This is an extremely subjective view riddled with the DK effect. On one hand you have every statistic, pro, and dev team (which is why Kaz got major buffs) acknowledging this character struggling and difficult. On the other hand you have a top 1 percent player (who also creates content on tekken and also pilots another difficult character) taking the Kazuya to practice, naming and executing a few moves pretty well calling the character easy. This is an intellectually dishonest opinion. I acknowledge your skills on the sticks, you’re far better than me. But this video doesn’t highlight any of the things that make Kazuya difficult.
I've never played Kazuya, but Steve WAS hard to play now he's made far easier. Steve used to be a character that required a huge amount of skill to play, now they made him as masher friendly as many other characters. At least he's kinda predictable when we fight against him.
Fr, I played a bit of older tekkens but T8 was the first one I grinded. I got to TG woh Steve and never felt those claims of his difficulty of use (maybe I’m just used to him idk). I jumped to T7 and a lot of his stuff is harder. His standard bnbs and Gatling to name a few, and of course the shiro combo. I think he is more hard in his gameplay approach rather than the skill it self to pilot him.
most kazuyas online are also playing pc with macroed electrics and wavedashing, and/or on kbd & leverless, and still yapping how "difficult muh kazuya is" xD
finally somebody said it. Kazuya's been one of the most braindead characters in the game since S2 of T7 tbh. every hit is a safe normal hit knockdown mid into 50/50 oki. end combo with electric -> 50/50 oki. Land hellsweep -> get 50/50 oki. ff4 grounded hit into 50/50 oki. No fundamentals required, poking not required - slot machines the character. hardest thing Kazuya neckbeards point to is perfect electric after d/f2, which every green rank Kazuya masters, cause all they practice is execution, then they go into ranked and lose every match cause all they do is practice execution, and not how to actually play the game, and they cry to Harada and Murray for more buffs.
execution they dont even need in this game, CH df2 perfect electric is a fancy stuff to show off, he can get almost half life combo without that and without walls after CH df2 with a doodoo execution combo with CD 1+2, 1243, etc...
There are no hard characters in this game. You can make every character work with a small effort. You can make the game harder for yourself, and some characters give a straight way to doing that like really difficult (but often unnecessary) inputs or matchup specific counters (that you could also do easily without). The whole conversation around which character is difficult is pretty dumb when you think about it honestly. You could be the most cracked player ever with an "easy character" and some idiot is going to think you suck because you don't play kazuya.
I'm kinda afraid to run into Kazuya, it's as if I see LTG on my loading screen getting ready to 1&done and proceed to shit on whatever character I play today lol
@ I’m of the opinion that absolutely no character is hard to play if you understand them & your playstyle meshes well with them with practice I’m relatively still pretty new to fg’s from a competitive standpoint. I play shaheen, raven & ganryu. Raven is considered one of the hardest characters in the game but I can play him very efficiently not b/c my “execution” is crazy but b/c I put in the time to learn the character properly. His backturn is a bit of a learning curve but he doesn’t have any execution kind of barriers imo I also think shaheen is hard to win with not b/c of execution but more in like a you gotta hard read a lot with him So Mishima, Jin, Bryan & Steve players need to stop with that dumbass execution excuse
Love your content, but have you tried using him against good players and not just in practice mode? Lee combos are very easy for me to do, but it doesn't mean I'm good with him in matches.
@fightinggm What I'm saying is it's easy to do electrics and stuff in practice but hard to do wavu and electrics, and IWS moves fast when you want to under pressure against good opponents, and that's where the difficulty comes in, but I respect you, bro, and you're right I'm not a good player. I know that.
@@fightinggm Watched the fight vs Kazuya he was nowhere near your level and couldn't put you under pressure. Good video though regardless, you are one of the best players in the game, so it doesn't surprise me.
People forget that Kazuya's ff2 use to be a high and was very linear, which required Kazuya players to think if they want to get in. Them making it a mid and impossible to step made the character braindead asf. making it a heat engager was the icening on the cake to move Mishima players further into the special ed. category. 🤣
@ still doesn't mean you can perform well with the character whether if it's ranked or in real matches. If kazuya only relied in wavedashing and electrics, there'd be plenty kazuyas out there which is definitely not the case...
As a new player, Kazuya has been the easiest Mishima to pick up and play lmao. Being able to do the frame perfect 2 at ANY time during the Mist Step stance makes electrics crazy easy. Literal "Take-&-Bake PEWGF's", no heat needed. Whereas I don't think I've consciously hit a real electric as Jin without doing the breaking step stance yet Kazuya is fun as hell to play, but I hate how the general cocensus I hear about him is how he's either a braindead top tier or the fundememtals underdog
I can tell you exactly why this Bryan player wasn’t taking his frames. Bryan doesn’t get enough frame advantage to do anything but poke or sidestep on hit. Getting launched after landing a hit as a Bryan player is very common, EVERYONE challenges Bryan after hatchet and every other move because his turn is essentially over if it’s not a launch. Much kudos to this Bryan for learning and adapting to that. He does need to take his frames to poke from time to time tho.
Kazuya has a limited move set so of course he’s gonna use the same moves over and over again. It’s about mixing up the timing to throw your opponents off
@@fightinggmif you know the cast and have a good execution than yea it’s “easy”. If you don’t than it’s not, which most beginner and intermediate players don’t have (most of who the player fan base consist of) It’s literally in the numbers that Kazuya player has the lowest win rate online
one could argue that he's difficult because everyone knows the Kazuya matchup and counter play, but is the counter play actually easy when he can whiff-spam safe launchers at will and all he needs is one confirmed hit to win the game? is the counter play easy when he barely risks anything while you're taking all the risks all the time ??....weak argument if u ask me. anyone who mastered EWGF spam can beat anyone, if u can spam this move at will you can beat players who are levels above you, because this move is the best attack in the game and that's all u need
Barely risks anything? lmfao if you guess right he gets launched in to a full combo. I don't even main the mfker but c'mon he does take some risks with Kazino.
This video was hilarious! Btw I honestly believe a series where u get some of these other characters up in the ranks just to prove your point would be extremely entertaining to watch
For those who don't know, EWGF after T7 season 2 and 3 was buffed, it recovers faster and tracks better. Mishima's used to be technical to play, but have been slowly dumbed down. He was harder in previous games.
@@G-R-IE-IE-D well said, the issue is everyone wants to act like they have it "harder" when in reality they are just scrubs. Including me. Like every character is easy in this game.
@@trashboat4731 But they do have it harder? how many other characters have to use execution to apply their offense? how many other characters have to use electric for punish? how many other characters have no mid poke or quick low and little gimmicks or evasive moves? Are we just ignoring all this? Just bc the game got easier does not mean every character is equally easy to play.
Ppl also say Bryan is hard, MFER IS NOT HARD. The only thing that’s hard is taunt jet upper, the rest of the character is piss easy and the YOU DONT EVEN NEED TO DO IT TO WIN. Sure it’s the icing on the cake but I see Bryan’s win all the time without even doing it. Tmm was taking games off pgf without using taunt jet upper. Bryan is MADDD overrated imo
@@IzuMido-t1mI agree on underwhelming. That also in turn makes it tougher to play him because he has zero panic moves in an overly offensive game. His PC is a slow high with terrible tracking. He’s got no way to steel a turn, make you respect that it’s his turn and he doesn’t even maintain his turn aka no pressure. Brother that’s difficult. His combos have to always be adjusted for opponent position and location on the stage, nobody has to know as many combo routes as Bryan players. You simply cannot pick him and play the game like you can with most if not all other characters.
@@BustaNAugusta I don't know about that panic move thing mate, I've got my mids crushed by his Orbital's wonky hitbix a few times, sure, it's not Lars Orbital level evasion, but it's enough to where I can't rule out the possibility of it happening. Also he has that bs built in sabaki during snake eyes, which can really mess up keepout.
T8 Kaz is the easiest version of Kaz to play. Obviously the high skill cap is still there if you want to be optimal, but the minimum skill needed to pilot him decently is definitely way lower. You don't even need to rely on electrics outside of df2 combos and 13 frame punishment. Knockdown into wavedash 50/50 oki pressure with Kaz is now easier than ever to implement thanks to his many good buttons. FF2, CD 1+2, FF3, Hell sweep, iws1,2, etc.. He actually has so many good buttons in this game. Kazuya's heat is also pretty damn good with all his extensions and awesome heat dash options. Not the easiest character to play sure, but we need to face the fact that he isn't as hard to play as before✌
I have lots of respect for you gm , but are you saying that kazuya completely takes no skill ?compared to the rest of the cast ? Is he not top 5 difficulty atleast ?, if so i would love to hear more
all he said is that Kazuya's difficulty is mad overrated which is true, personally I've been saying Kazuya is braindead af since T7 season 2... chararacter with 3 moves rotation barely any thinking needed
I didn't say that. I said he isnt super duper hard to play. Nobody in tekken 8 is hard to play. Some dude was glazing kaz saying all kaz players have more skill then anyone else
Every Tekken 8 character is easy to play honestly. Kazuya has always been pretty simple on top of that. I can't really speak on how things are at higher Tekken 8 levels since I barely play the game. It seem all about 50/50s and trying to get huge plus frames on block. But I do remember GM saying he used to play Heihachi. To what degree, I can't remember. I'd say Reina is the most difficult Mishima in Tekken 8.
@@arielcastillo3513 not sure how you can play kazuya without electric, how will you launch for your simple combo? Ff3 is good if you can get them to duck, but its slow as hell and can be stepped if you're too predictable. Outside of that, he has no other normal hit standing launchers. You can fish for ch launchers if you get consistent reads on your opponents timing, but thats honestly just harder than learning and throwing out electrics.
Kazuya was hard before they made him super scrubby in T8 like they did with most characters lol. ff2 and having to guess round start between df2 and d1+2 zzz
This is how i feel when ppl say ling is hard😂 Ive never played an easier more carried character in my life. Her oki makes resets literally braindead for you
TMM has single headedly gaslighted people into thinking that Kazuya is hard when he literally has the easiest game plan in the game. We gotta stop pretending that wave dashing and doing electrics is hard for anybody who played more than 200 hours of tekken.
"Simple" gameplan does not mean its "easy" to execute. It goes both ways, the burden on the opponent is much lower since they know all your shit too. Also instead out touting ignorance, go rank up Kazuya to see for yourself, doing electrics and wavedashing isn't what makes Kazuya hard.
People say kaz is so difficult cuz of perfect electric and combo cancellation shit but u really dont have to do that with him if u want to win he already has a huge combo damage with his simplest combos
Doing the most elite mishima techniques in the game, whilst being 108 years old? GM clearly fizzlin'. Has to be macros, there's definetely *no other explanation* . What's next, he can pull off Jin's 2,1 into 2,1
the superiority complex of kaz players is crazy considering he has the best punishment, oki for mixups and he benefits the MOST from tekken 8 bs 😂 having a 13f ws launcher is his identity apparently
ive seen a lot of these Kaz fanboys complaining about hes ws12 having crappy range, like they also want the move to launch you from a mile away when he literally bans more than 90% of most characters lows and even practically 100% of the lows of some characters like Dragunov, he launches all Lee's lows except for db3 and d4 for example.
Tekken really does put into perspective what is considered easy and hard. As a new fighting game player, I struggled my ass to not even achieve 50% consistency on electrics, and the char is not even hard execution wise. Guess I chose the wrong game
It's not playing Kazuya that's hard, it's having consistent electrics and that's it. You can still have OD EWGF punishment but still means nothing if you don't know how to play real Tekken. Everyone is a 50/50 machine with varying effectiveness and KYSG combos now so anyone can pick him up and spam mids and lows to mixup all day.
5:17 - 5:23 Hot take but that’s probably why it’s easy for you lol On the other hand, why is keisuke the only one using him in tournaments? Kaz is really strong, try him in a tournament GM!
I say Kazuya is hard to get decent at for newcomers and maybe some intermediate players, the majority though could probs pick him up in a shorter time than others
Kazuya is indeed hard to play. To have success with with him, you need to play with a lot of inspiration. There is a reason only Keisuke can bring him to Top 8s. You need to be creative. Otherwise you become predictable real quick
Flipping a coin get repetitive not predictable. There are a lot of characters that don't even get to top 8, so there is a lot to swallow if you want to keep that argument.
2:34 nah GM is cold. Did yall see those electrics 😮he should play a character with infamously hard execution and maybe go on to win multiple tournaments with him, he’d be OD if he did that 🤣
Big fan of your channel, gameplay and takes. But I respectfully disagree that kazuya isn't challenging to pilot. He's one misinput away from losing the entire round. It is one thing to wavu and electric in practice mode, it is another to CONSISTENTLY implement them into your online gameplay.
The reactions to this should make some spicy content Edit: saying I do not play this and doing the wavu and iws12 obviously means he's lying or has played Kaz in the past and is familiar with his moves.
tbh the only hard characters in tkk8 are the ones that suks, this game is busted, everyone doing crazy shi, kaz only hard stuff is pewgf, which you don't need it, so yea overrated difficulty character (Im a kaz main btw), also although nina has some crazy dumb shi, she is no easy pick and play, BUT you could definitely run her and win some mad games with a couple flowcharts and bnb combos against people that are way better than you at tekken core.
No one is disagreeing with you that complete new players will get the most reward out of a character like Paul. Moreso, the context is overrated in terms of execution (which is mostly true).
No kaz main in their right mind has db2 as a move to use because it’s useless af and 18 frames on start up, not even a low 😂 but I will say, Lee is harder to use.
Yea try to do those strings, oh they are duckable, oh well then i'll just sway to the side, welp those mids can track you, f maybe try to set up a ch? NO F YOU CAUSE YOLO ARMOUR OR SOME OTHER BS. You can't play Steve safely anymore 😢
I can tell you don’t play him lol. Nothing you demonstrated here displays why he’s the hardest character in the game. We’re literally talking physics here. At Tekken god and up, there’s no one more difficult. One word: consistency. 1 dropped electric can mean the difference between winning and losing EVO. You’re not dropping a df2 launch. Consistency is why kazuya is so hard. He’s a walking misinput. Even keisuke drops shit every single round he plays in tournament because kazuya is kazuya. Is kazuya the easiest he’s ever been? Yes. Is he insanely strong in T8? Yes, absolutely. Is he the hardest character in T8 despite being the easiest version of himself? Yes. It’s not about opinions, dude. We’re discussing things like “is the Sun hot, does water make things wet, is kazuya exceptionally difficult to pilot”.
IN TErms of execution kazuya is not the hardest but hes still up there with his df2 perfect electric and whiff punishment and block punishment with the electric , also the wave dash , in terms of gameplan i think hes at the top too his tools are very good but they are also very limited im not sure if hes harder than lee but one thing for sure hes up there at the top
@@foxsteve9937 Hmm, I used to play T7 Steve and found the shiro combo hard for 2 days, but not after that, and Bryan, for me personally, TJU is the hardest move but not needed. That's the difference, in my opinion you need to be able to pull out electrics and fast wavu and IWS moves under pressure it's a must.
@@rafu9248 kazuya has the hardest execution. He literally requires you to master a just frame input just to play the character. You can’t do much with kazuya without electric.
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Just watch this video. A viewer said i can only play lee and no other character and kazuya was one of the characters i beat him with without even knowing combos. 😂😂😂
Weren't you a Kazuya player back in the day? These new age players don't know you can play any character in this game and nasty in other fighters too. C'mon, they don't know about your mean Vega in SF4 fam.
Watched that entire video. Earned a sub - that shit was gas
If it's possible, think you can spot me a general tip I can hone on gameplay wise with Lars? I'd appreciate it
@@fightinggm i like that content tough. Why not make another video like tht. Maybe reach tekken king with paul or somethin
just let the man warm up with any character, and gm will destroy
@LordAizen-wh4yw sure man. If lars in general u want to be consistently aggressive . He's only scary when u are overwhelmed your opponent with him
“look at that instant twin pistons ahhh gmfizzle”😂😂😂😂😂
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That dude is trash! He's the one piping up?
That dude has some crazy commentary
@@JayDoe-u5o he’s a cool guy but a lot of his takes are stupid as hell
Mishima, Bryan and Steve players are super brainwashed by the Mainman elitist mentality. They’re literally incapable of respecting all the playstyles in tekken but their own
@@versatilelord8893you grouping them all in to one does nothing to prove your case there are plenty of players on those characters with way more respect than you i can tell
@ yes it does prove my case guy. Because I’m not talking about the ones who are knowledgeable and with common sense
I’m talking about that loud toxic group that does exactly that. Complain & cry all day about how hard it is with their false execution excuse instead of looking at the mirror & reflecting on their own mistakes
Damn didn't know GM was also a mishima expert too sheesh!!
His first main was heihachi 😁
Anyone that’s nice at tekken has a kazuya it’s like ryujin street fighter it’s inevitable
I'm fed up with the elitists, execution lords and all that "harder this, harder that" chit chat bs that goes around fighting games. Only thing that matters is to WIN, and if you can't achieve it, go suck one, no one gives a damn about execution, specially in this watered down version of this game. GM as always being the realest, dude spitting facts, and I play Heihachi, always played Mishimas mostly, any one with eyes can see this game is easy as hell to play. If dude's be putting time to learn the game instead of discussing pointless crap, what a beautiful world would it be.
GM just casually wavedashing while on a PS2 controller I lost it lol
Kazuya is hard for newbies, but intermediate players overrate him.
This is well said
"Kazuya is hard, but when you get better at the game, it's easier to play him" - genius from you there
@@brucky556 kazuya fanboy, i was talking about intermediate players who say he is one of the hardest characters to play compared to others, when he is not, i hit bushin with him and he is not even my 5th sub character, he is very simple and straightforward character, nothing too difficult for any player to pick up him
@@brucky556not at all what he said lmao
@@raadbekatyzakov2029 so you base how hard he is on the fact that you hit bushin? People hit GoD with him, people hit GoD with every character, that holds absolutely no weight in determining how hard a character is.
Also he's hard for new players yet its not too difficult for anyone to pick him up? Which is it?
TMM really Tricked the whole comm.
@@Centro-centro he really did and it’s freaking sickening b/c that dumbass mentality has trickled into the majority of the community. Particularly the casual side
If I’m not mistaken in Tekken 8 he has said they have watered down the character and made him easier in this game.
i remember him saying he is easy now and saying he is kinda braindead in the beta of tekken 8 even on release then suddenly said its great
@moxdegiourno7984 he succumbed to the ff2 and not having to deal with arthritis
@@Centro-centro main man somewhat actually acknowledged I how strong kaz is in first 2 months and even said he is tired of kaz downplay when "Fix kaz ni**a" thing happened
Kazuya is a straightforward character but i think his difficulty stems from not having good panic moves(outside of heat), below average poking game, no evasive moves outside of slow ass d1+2 and b1+2, and no easy 14-15f standing launcher. He's hard for new players due to the execution requirements, and stays difficult for intermediate and high level due to his lack of the mentioned tools. Not really sure how showing off wavedash and iws2 in practice mode just completely invalidates the difficulty of the character 😂. I can do pewgf in practice mode but its much more difficult to implement in a real match, especially with online delay. He's definitely much easier in tekken 8 than previous games, but you can probably get more milage out of alot of other characters with less effort.
Df2 is a panic button…
@NM-rj4gk it has no crushing or evasive properties so i wouldn't consider it a panic button. His only panic buttons i can think of is devil roar in heat and i guess d1+2 and b1+2, but the former is reactable and the latter just sucks ass lol
And of course f2 but that move also sucks ass
@@clipCommander101 df2 will hit after someone’s df1 ob, and d1+2 high crushes and is only -14 so it doesn’t even matter if they block it
@@NM-rj4gk df2 is 14 frames, so if someone does df1 ob into jab they would win that trade(unless their df1 is - 4 or more)
Dude really got tired of Kazuya agenda.
Its like T8 hasn't shown how strong 50/50 can be and dudes been like the 50/50 character
Now some ranked matches with kazuya please gm
i think gm deleting my comment cuz he knows he dont wanna prove what he saying
@@KIRI77 if you even put your toe barely outside the lines of what they arbitrarily deem acceptable, YT will auto delete that comment bro
fuck no. boring ass NPC character.
I didn't delete your comment. UA-cam automatically deletes comments when u write tos stuff. So if u writing crazy stuff UA-cam is gonna delete it. I never delete comments
Exactly I hate when dudes say I'm deleting comments when they just writing crazy stuff that UA-cam doesn't doesn't like
Kaz is very watered down in terms of executional requirement, Yes block punishment via ewgf i13~ is difficult, but honestly that's it. yes he still has weakness via ssl/swl/ssl duck etc, but in 8 he has way more coverage plus you can delay ff2, cd1+2, ff4 and it'll catch. People don't understand the difficulty isn't in his inherent playstyle but in punishing correctly and spacing/movement.
to add i dropped his bum ass in 8 cause it's too stupid, i play steve instead
You think that’s easy to do in the heat of the moment? Y’all forget that Kazuya has the lowest win rate online for a reason
@@superdupeninja8149Is it the character or player?, most kazuya players I play have like the weakest fundamentals, can't break throws, don't understand neutral, have no movement or ever side walk. In T8 no character is hard. Now if this was tag2 or t6 , then yeah he was hella hard. Like legit Mishima's were technical. I speak from playing kazuya since t6.
@@superdupeninja8149 Nah he's coincidentally easy and hard at the same time, like i explained. People just find it hard to know why he's difficult and it's always the wrong reasons.
@@trashboat4731nah thats giga cap, Kaz players are way more competent than other players.
I'm a kazuya main and GM 100% RIGHT !!
Kazuya in T8 is the easiest kazuya in the history of TEKKEN
Word bro the point of this video is nobody is hard to play in this game compared to old tekken games
Yeah but no one plays those dead games anymore it's a new era. saying it's all easy compared to older games barely any of the current fan base has played don't do nothing, besides rub people the wrong way.
"Oh back in my day before you were born that shit was OD" "Oh you weren't born then fr? then you gotta just get Kaz to GoD Rank cuz he was much harder back then, just get good at the easier game that doesn't teach you how to get good and force you to do 50/50's" "Oh you want me to show you how to play kaz? nah I'm good, I'm not a kazuya player but he's easy tho"
The difficult thing is doing electric at any point during the wavedash and consistently
Which you hardly even see from pro players doing(not that they can't) so it's not to being good or knowing how to play him
Im tryna learn kazuya and this mf just flexed on me like dat? Ya hearuuuud?
1:53 sounded like he was about to spit a Kanye flow “wave dash wave dash wave dash wave dash wave dash OK! Kazuya mains think he hard and I said NO WAY” 😂
Yeah...don't let a 20+ year pro Lee tell you that things he can do easily aren't difficult to learn. Nobody jumps on the sticks and plays Kazuya like that. Learning wave dash and Electric is difficult. Implementing them into your gameplay is difficult. If the Mishimas aren't difficult, nobody in this game is.
Exactly lol 😂…I only starting getting good at electrics last year and I was playing on and off since T7. And this is practice mode, doing wave dashes and electrics in ranked is way different
Yea, Kazuya is mostly 50/50s and carried by his devil form, like Lee doesn't have really good defensive tools that makes him hard to approach
@@Sigma_boy_3750Lee has the some of the best keep out in the entire game and FANTASTIC defensive options, those being: A hopkick, a high crushing df2, a high crushing counter hit launching 16f low (d3), and the best punch parry in the game. Wtf are you on about
yeah lets listen to biased kazuya players instead
@@Sigma_boy_3750B4 alone smokes most playstyles, Lee's keep out is solid.
people hear Kaz is hard at pro level play and think it applies further down the levels of play...scrubbing out people easy af with kazuya
ngl if he that easy to play then why is there only one kazuya player in the world in top 8 majors and before patch 1.05 nobody I MEAN NOBODY TOUCHED THAT CHARACTER in tournament at all EXCEPT KEISUKE after 1.05 i think hes really strong he does not need anything ele his kit is pefect but someone new to fighting games cannot pick this character up and get to blue ranks its just not possible bro with all due respect
When I went to college I learned about the Dunning-Kruger effect. This is an extremely subjective view riddled with the DK effect. On one hand you have every statistic, pro, and dev team (which is why Kaz got major buffs) acknowledging this character struggling and difficult. On the other hand you have a top 1 percent player (who also creates content on tekken and also pilots another difficult character) taking the Kazuya to practice, naming and executing a few moves pretty well calling the character easy.
This is an intellectually dishonest opinion. I acknowledge your skills on the sticks, you’re far better than me. But this video doesn’t highlight any of the things that make Kazuya difficult.
I've never played Kazuya, but Steve WAS hard to play now he's made far easier. Steve used to be a character that required a huge amount of skill to play, now they made him as masher friendly as many other characters. At least he's kinda predictable when we fight against him.
Fr, I played a bit of older tekkens but T8 was the first one I grinded. I got to TG woh Steve and never felt those claims of his difficulty of use (maybe I’m just used to him idk). I jumped to T7 and a lot of his stuff is harder. His standard bnbs and Gatling to name a few, and of course the shiro combo.
I think he is more hard in his gameplay approach rather than the skill it self to pilot him.
steve is probably harder to play now considering that almost everything was nerfed, but he got less technical stuff now so hes easier on execution
@@b0ost3rz perfectly said
most kazuyas online are also playing pc with macroed electrics and wavedashing, and/or on kbd & leverless, and still yapping how "difficult muh kazuya is" xD
finally somebody said it. Kazuya's been one of the most braindead characters in the game since S2 of T7 tbh. every hit is a safe normal hit knockdown mid into 50/50 oki. end combo with electric -> 50/50 oki. Land hellsweep -> get 50/50 oki. ff4 grounded hit into 50/50 oki. No fundamentals required, poking not required - slot machines the character.
hardest thing Kazuya neckbeards point to is perfect electric after d/f2, which every green rank Kazuya masters, cause all they practice is execution, then they go into ranked and lose every match cause all they do is practice execution, and not how to actually play the game, and they cry to Harada and Murray for more buffs.
execution they dont even need in this game, CH df2 perfect electric is a fancy stuff to show off, he can get almost half life combo without that and without walls after CH df2 with a doodoo execution combo with CD 1+2, 1243, etc...
FAAAAAACTS
I hope that bs character gets nerfed to the ground because the Kazino Royal needs to stop.
I agree tbh, especially all they do is practice execution, which u don’t even really need for T8 Kaz.
"perfect electric after df2, which every green rank masters" okay lets not get ahead of ourselves
*TMM WATCHES IN GRIEF MAKES A VIDEO*: lee pro player says kazuya is easy
I agree with ya, T8 Kazuya can just spam CD1+2, hellsweep, and ff2, unlike T7 Kazuya which requires skills and execution
There are no hard characters in this game. You can make every character work with a small effort. You can make the game harder for yourself, and some characters give a straight way to doing that like really difficult (but often unnecessary) inputs or matchup specific counters (that you could also do easily without). The whole conversation around which character is difficult is pretty dumb when you think about it honestly. You could be the most cracked player ever with an "easy character" and some idiot is going to think you suck because you don't play kazuya.
I can’t stand the elitist mentality of Mishima, Bryan and Steve players
Most of that player base are super cry babies
if they want to play really hard character they should play akira in vf5 or any old street fighter with their 1 frame link.
I'm kinda afraid to run into Kazuya, it's as if I see LTG on my loading screen getting ready to 1&done and proceed to shit on whatever character I play today lol
@ I’m of the opinion that absolutely no character is hard to play if you understand them & your playstyle meshes well with them with practice
I’m relatively still pretty new to fg’s from a competitive standpoint. I play shaheen, raven & ganryu. Raven is considered one of the hardest characters in the game but I can play him very efficiently not b/c my “execution” is crazy but b/c I put in the time to learn the character properly. His backturn is a bit of a learning curve but he doesn’t have any execution kind of barriers imo
I also think shaheen is hard to win with not b/c of execution but more in like a you gotta hard read a lot with him
So Mishima, Jin, Bryan & Steve players need to stop with that dumbass execution excuse
They can be dicks but it is objectively true that they are high execution characters
@@aldofer8832Played Ken in SF4, Kazuya was hard than and is still hard now. GM trolling
Love your content, but have you tried using him against good players and not just in practice mode? Lee combos are very easy for me to do, but it doesn't mean I'm good with him in matches.
I can tell you a a casual player. Combos have nothing to do if a character is hard or easy to play
@fightinggm What I'm saying is it's easy to do electrics and stuff in practice but hard to do wavu and electrics, and IWS moves fast when you want to under pressure against good opponents, and that's where the difficulty comes in, but I respect you, bro, and you're right I'm not a good player. I know that.
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@@fightinggm Watched the fight vs Kazuya he was nowhere near your level and couldn't put you under pressure. Good video though regardless, you are one of the best players in the game, so it doesn't surprise me.
People forget that Kazuya's ff2 use to be a high and was very linear, which required Kazuya players to think if they want to get in. Them making it a mid and impossible to step made the character braindead asf. making it a heat engager was the icening on the cake to move Mishima players further into the special ed. category. 🤣
You don’t even need wavu or electric to start. Ff2 and hellsweep mixup will catch mad people
Why is his opponent just standing there tho?
🤨 I’m guessing you don’t play the game
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@@Corleone256 It was a sarcestic comment that meant: "Let's see you do this with Kazuya against an actual player"
If there will be a SNK guest character in the future, would you drop Lee or it depends how will Bandai Namco balance him?
"that s*** is easy as fuck" and proceeds to hit 2x d+2 trying to ewgf lol you can't make this s*** up hahahahaha
Look at the rest of the video instead of the first few minutes lol
@@fightinggm idk if you are trolling or not, that's the thing lol. I watched the whole thing but I could not tell if you were being serious or not tbh
@@blinroc a dude can pickup your character raw and be able to wave dash and electric in under 30 seconds. That’s the point
@okaycoo4224 thanks bro alot of these youtube dudes eat crayons and never understand the concept of simple things 😂
@ still doesn't mean you can perform well with the character whether if it's ranked or in real matches. If kazuya only relied in wavedashing and electrics, there'd be plenty kazuyas out there which is definitely not the case...
who do you think are the hardest characters to play?
Video coming soon
@@fightinggm yo GM you a content MACHINE love what you are doing!
@@sachkebab thanks bro just tryna step my content game up
Facts. Kazuya takes some practice to get down the execution but once you get that down it is way too easy.
As a new player, Kazuya has been the easiest Mishima to pick up and play lmao.
Being able to do the frame perfect 2 at ANY time during the Mist Step stance makes electrics crazy easy. Literal "Take-&-Bake PEWGF's", no heat needed.
Whereas I don't think I've consciously hit a real electric as Jin without doing the breaking step stance yet
Kazuya is fun as hell to play, but I hate how the general cocensus I hear about him is how he's either a braindead top tier or the fundememtals underdog
I can tell you exactly why this Bryan player wasn’t taking his frames. Bryan doesn’t get enough frame advantage to do anything but poke or sidestep on hit. Getting launched after landing a hit as a Bryan player is very common, EVERYONE challenges Bryan after hatchet and every other move because his turn is essentially over if it’s not a launch. Much kudos to this Bryan for learning and adapting to that. He does need to take his frames to poke from time to time tho.
Kazuya has a limited move set so of course he’s gonna use the same moves over and over again. It’s about mixing up the timing to throw your opponents off
Yea and that's madd easy to do
@@fightinggmif you know the cast and have a good execution than yea it’s “easy”. If you don’t than it’s not, which most beginner and intermediate players don’t have (most of who the player fan base consist of) It’s literally in the numbers that Kazuya player has the lowest win rate online
Tekken 4 Kaz was buff, I remember those days. Good times.
one could argue that he's difficult because everyone knows the Kazuya matchup and counter play, but is the counter play actually easy when he can whiff-spam safe launchers at will and all he needs is one confirmed hit to win the game? is the counter play easy when he barely risks anything while you're taking all the risks all the time ??....weak argument if u ask me.
anyone who mastered EWGF spam can beat anyone, if u can spam this move at will you can beat players who are levels above you, because this move is the best attack in the game and that's all u need
facts
Barely risks anything? lmfao if you guess right he gets launched in to a full combo. I don't even main the mfker but c'mon he does take some risks with Kazino.
This video was hilarious!
Btw I honestly believe a series where u get some of these other characters up in the ranks just to prove your point would be extremely entertaining to watch
For those who don't know, EWGF after T7 season 2 and 3 was buffed, it recovers faster and tracks better. Mishima's used to be technical to play, but have been slowly dumbed down. He was harder in previous games.
i mean it was technical because he was super counterable, now he just cover every situation lmao no need for wavedash and realigned
@@aldofer8832 yeah stuff just tracks to his weak side now, plus no need to crouch cancel any more since he has an easy ws,1+2.
To be fair there really isn’t a character that transferred to Tekken 8 and got harder. That literally applies to everyone.
@@G-R-IE-IE-D well said, the issue is everyone wants to act like they have it "harder" when in reality they are just scrubs. Including me. Like every character is easy in this game.
@@trashboat4731 But they do have it harder? how many other characters have to use execution to apply their offense? how many other characters have to use electric for punish? how many other characters have no mid poke or quick low and little gimmicks or evasive moves? Are we just ignoring all this? Just bc the game got easier does not mean every character is equally easy to play.
what do you think is the hardest character to play
This video is funny. You have triggered Kazuya mains 🤣
T8 Kaz is so overrated in difficulty
Super expecially compared to the older tekken games
@@fightinggm Agreed
bruh 50 secs of the vid and im already cracked 😂, lets keep watching LMAO
I think you using the word wrong.
Steve players at the beginning of the video: *Sweating profusely*
Steve players at 3:35: "Phew..."
Ppl also say Bryan is hard, MFER IS NOT HARD. The only thing that’s hard is taunt jet upper, the rest of the character is piss easy and the YOU DONT EVEN NEED TO DO IT TO WIN. Sure it’s the icing on the cake but I see Bryan’s win all the time without even doing it. Tmm was taking games off pgf without using taunt jet upper. Bryan is MADDD overrated imo
Piss easy despite lacking every gimmick tool in the game 🤔. You can always spot a casual with comments like this.
@@BustaNAugusta Bryan moves r broken... do u even play tekken? His range r bullshit.. ask every pros he is top tier
@@BustaNAugusta that just makes him underwhelming ig? Really has nothing to do with him being hard. Just sucks compared to the good characters
@@IzuMido-t1mI agree on underwhelming. That also in turn makes it tougher to play him because he has zero panic moves in an overly offensive game. His PC is a slow high with terrible tracking. He’s got no way to steel a turn, make you respect that it’s his turn and he doesn’t even maintain his turn aka no pressure. Brother that’s difficult. His combos have to always be adjusted for opponent position and location on the stage, nobody has to know as many combo routes as Bryan players. You simply cannot pick him and play the game like you can with most if not all other characters.
@@BustaNAugusta I don't know about that panic move thing mate, I've got my mids crushed by his Orbital's wonky hitbix a few times, sure, it's not Lars Orbital level evasion, but it's enough to where I can't rule out the possibility of it happening. Also he has that bs built in sabaki during snake eyes, which can really mess up keepout.
Bros a pro but talking like a hater. How bout implementing that execution in a real match?
Of course u gonna say this u main kazuya so u want to feel good by making people think u play with the hardest character in the game 😆
@fightinggm agreed he's not the hardest but let's see where I'm wrong?
is anyone difficult to play in T8?
T8 Kaz is the easiest version of Kaz to play. Obviously the high skill cap is still there if you want to be optimal, but the minimum skill needed to pilot him decently is definitely way lower. You don't even need to rely on electrics outside of df2 combos and 13 frame punishment. Knockdown into wavedash 50/50 oki pressure with Kaz is now easier than ever to implement thanks to his many good buttons. FF2, CD 1+2, FF3, Hell sweep, iws1,2, etc.. He actually has so many good buttons in this game. Kazuya's heat is also pretty damn good with all his extensions and awesome heat dash options. Not the easiest character to play sure, but we need to face the fact that he isn't as hard to play as before✌
Yes this is exactly why I made this video
PREACH. tired of these kazuya mains bro holy shit
People think that just bcs a character has 1 challenging move hes the hardest lmao… blud has not tried ranking up with steve
I have lots of respect for you gm , but are you saying that kazuya completely takes no skill ?compared to the rest of the cast ? Is he not top 5 difficulty atleast ?, if so i would love to hear more
all he said is that Kazuya's difficulty is mad overrated which is true, personally I've been saying Kazuya is braindead af since T7 season 2... chararacter with 3 moves rotation barely any thinking needed
I didn't say that. I said he isnt super duper hard to play. Nobody in tekken 8 is hard to play. Some dude was glazing kaz saying all kaz players have more skill then anyone else
4:03 did that dude in your chat really say "Try Nina ss1 cancels"? Bruh that shit is easy!!!
Now Nina butterfly loops, thats another story......
Every Tekken 8 character is easy to play honestly. Kazuya has always been pretty simple on top of that. I can't really speak on how things are at higher Tekken 8 levels since I barely play the game. It seem all about 50/50s and trying to get huge plus frames on block. But I do remember GM saying he used to play Heihachi. To what degree, I can't remember. I'd say Reina is the most difficult Mishima in Tekken 8.
Ff2, hellsweep, stature kick, ff4 d1+2 and a simple combo are all you need with this char. Wavu or electrics are just an extra but not needed.
@@arielcastillo3513 not sure how you can play kazuya without electric, how will you launch for your simple combo? Ff3 is good if you can get them to duck, but its slow as hell and can be stepped if you're too predictable. Outside of that, he has no other normal hit standing launchers. You can fish for ch launchers if you get consistent reads on your opponents timing, but thats honestly just harder than learning and throwing out electrics.
Kazuya was hard before they made him super scrubby in T8 like they did with most characters lol. ff2 and having to guess round start between df2 and d1+2 zzz
Exactly
This is how i feel when ppl say ling is hard😂
Ive never played an easier more carried character in my life.
Her oki makes resets literally braindead for you
As a kaz player, can confirm he's easy AF lmao. The hardest character I played was Nina by far.
Nina ss1 cancels r easy asf too lmao only hard thing about Nina is butterfly loops.
exactly and she doesnt even need those, check Arslan he does 0 of those in tournaments, not even Jodd LMAO
TMM has single headedly gaslighted people into thinking that Kazuya is hard when he literally has the easiest game plan in the game.
We gotta stop pretending that wave dashing and doing electrics is hard for anybody who played more than 200 hours of tekken.
"Simple" gameplan does not mean its "easy" to execute. It goes both ways, the burden on the opponent is much lower since they know all your shit too. Also instead out touting ignorance, go rank up Kazuya to see for yourself, doing electrics and wavedashing isn't what makes Kazuya hard.
People say kaz is so difficult cuz of perfect electric and combo cancellation shit but u really dont have to do that with him if u want to win he already has a huge combo damage with his simplest combos
I notice you ain’t pick Steve and start doing “easy shit” 😂😂😂
Cause Steve is harder to play then kaz. I literally said that
Someone ain’t watch the whole video lmao
@@fightinggmSteve is actually not that hard to play in T8. Over here is honestly cheap AF.
@@KrisDee1981 nobody is that's the point I'm tryna make
@@fightinggm Well I tried to play Lee but just frames hard AF to do😊. I go back to Steve and Bryan.
Great content brother!
I feel like the only reason why people say kazuya is hard is because they don’t know how too wave dash but really you don’t need too do that 😂
Would be interesting to see you fight tekken creators like TMM
"Anotha One" Let's get it!
Doing the most elite mishima techniques in the game, whilst being 108 years old? GM clearly fizzlin'.
Has to be macros, there's definetely *no other explanation* . What's next, he can pull off Jin's 2,1 into 2,1
the superiority complex of kaz players is crazy considering he has the best punishment, oki for mixups and he benefits the MOST from tekken 8 bs 😂 having a 13f ws launcher is his identity apparently
ive seen a lot of these Kaz fanboys complaining about hes ws12 having crappy range, like they also want the move to launch you from a mile away when he literally bans more than 90% of most characters lows and even practically 100% of the lows of some characters like Dragunov, he launches all Lee's lows except for db3 and d4 for example.
Tekken really does put into perspective what is considered easy and hard. As a new fighting game player, I struggled my ass to not even achieve 50% consistency on electrics, and the char is not even hard execution wise.
Guess I chose the wrong game
It's not playing Kazuya that's hard, it's having consistent electrics and that's it. You can still have OD EWGF punishment but still means nothing if you don't know how to play real Tekken. Everyone is a 50/50 machine with varying effectiveness and KYSG combos now so anyone can pick him up and spam mids and lows to mixup all day.
GM having a better wave dash than me, who's playing Mishimas for a few years now xD
Shaheen is hard to play in tekken 8 compared to 7.
5:17 - 5:23
Hot take but that’s probably why it’s easy for you lol
On the other hand, why is keisuke the only one using him in tournaments? Kaz is really strong, try him in a tournament GM!
Shadow uses him too
@ How’d he do?
I say Kazuya is hard to get decent at for newcomers and maybe some intermediate players, the majority though could probs pick him up in a shorter time than others
why the kazuya so clean tf u should do a max rank playthru king
Kazuya is indeed hard to play. To have success with with him, you need to play with a lot of inspiration. There is a reason only Keisuke can bring him to Top 8s. You need to be creative. Otherwise you become predictable real quick
Flipping a coin get repetitive not predictable. There are a lot of characters that don't even get to top 8, so there is a lot to swallow if you want to keep that argument.
@ That is the only argument to be made. Thats how you win with Kazuya. With creativity
2:34 nah GM is cold. Did yall see those electrics 😮he should play a character with infamously hard execution and maybe go on to win multiple tournaments with him, he’d be OD if he did that 🤣
Big fan of your channel, gameplay and takes. But I respectfully disagree that kazuya isn't challenging to pilot. He's one misinput away from losing the entire round.
It is one thing to wavu and electric in practice mode, it is another to CONSISTENTLY implement them into your online gameplay.
Hes way easier then any other games his been in. That's the point I was tryna make
I been saying kazuya was easy since the first week of the game but mishima mains live in their own bubbles 🤣🤣
We watched you fail to rank up with kazuya my guy don’t start talking 🤣☠️
@cahweh this aged poorly 🤣🤣
I personally think Lee is harder than kazuya I feel you need the frame perfect a lot more than ewgf to do
GM gonna hurt some feelings with this lmao
Everyone's feelings hurt already
If your average viewer had even less than 10% of your power it would totally go to their head lol
The reactions to this should make some spicy content
Edit: saying I do not play this and doing the wavu and iws12 obviously means he's lying or has played Kaz in the past and is familiar with his moves.
tbh the only hard characters in tkk8 are the ones that suks, this game is busted, everyone doing crazy shi, kaz only hard stuff is pewgf, which you don't need it, so yea overrated difficulty character (Im a kaz main btw), also although nina has some crazy dumb shi, she is no easy pick and play, BUT you could definitely run her and win some mad games with a couple flowcharts and bnb combos against people that are way better than you at tekken core.
Are we really gonna do things in practice and say a character isn't hard to use?
he right tho kazuya is kinda yolo
Kaz's execution is actually easier than the other mishimas too -- no idea why anyone thinks this character is remotely hard to play.
Character even got a forcefield.
he even has an aoe attack yes 😂
you should bring him to the online world to shut up the haters
electric always been the same to do i dont get why ppl talking about kazuya being hard and only do execution stuff thats not what makes him hard
Make a tier list on character difficulty pls
Im ngl i did expect you to be able to do all that
I definitely don’t think Kazuya is one of the hardest characters to play but I think he has the highest barrier of entry for new players
No one is disagreeing with you that complete new players will get the most reward out of a character like Paul.
Moreso, the context is overrated in terms of execution (which is mostly true).
No kaz main in their right mind has db2 as a move to use because it’s useless af and 18 frames on start up, not even a low 😂 but I will say, Lee is harder to use.
you can say same stuff about any character in the roaster: Lee, Hei, Bryan, Jin, Steve, Yoshi, Nina (tbh any waifu) are easy
How you play steve is to pressure with all the safe strings, do evasion moves and ch will hits eventually
Yea try to do those strings, oh they are duckable, oh well then i'll just sway to the side, welp those mids can track you, f maybe try to set up a ch? NO F YOU CAUSE YOLO ARMOUR OR SOME OTHER BS. You can't play Steve safely anymore 😢
only people saying characters are hard have bad phalanges
wavedashing using ps2 controller lol
good content man...
Thank god you’re making a video on this LOL
Hope you enjoyed it!
I can tell you don’t play him lol. Nothing you demonstrated here displays why he’s the hardest character in the game. We’re literally talking physics here. At Tekken god and up, there’s no one more difficult. One word: consistency. 1 dropped electric can mean the difference between winning and losing EVO. You’re not dropping a df2 launch. Consistency is why kazuya is so hard. He’s a walking misinput. Even keisuke drops shit every single round he plays in tournament because kazuya is kazuya.
Is kazuya the easiest he’s ever been? Yes. Is he insanely strong in T8? Yes, absolutely. Is he the hardest character in T8 despite being the easiest version of himself? Yes. It’s not about opinions, dude. We’re discussing things like “is the Sun hot, does water make things wet, is kazuya exceptionally difficult to pilot”.
IN TErms of execution kazuya is not the hardest but hes still up there with his df2 perfect electric and whiff punishment and block punishment with the electric , also the wave dash , in terms of gameplan i think hes at the top too his tools are very good but they are also very limited
im not sure if hes harder than lee but one thing for sure hes up there at the top
Who has the hardest execution? Because Lee execution is easy or medium at best imo
@@rafu9248 for me bryan, or tekken 7 steve. but not anymore
@@foxsteve9937 Hmm, I used to play T7 Steve and found the shiro combo hard for 2 days, but not after that, and Bryan, for me personally, TJU is the hardest move but not needed. That's the difference, in my opinion you need to be able to pull out electrics and fast wavu and IWS moves under pressure it's a must.
@@rafu9248 kazuya has the hardest execution. He literally requires you to master a just frame input just to play the character. You can’t do much with kazuya without electric.