The first version of Mickey Mouse is now public domain and the rest will follow as the years pass. The trademark of Mickey Mouse remains property of Disney until they eventually go bust. This means you can't use him as a business mascot or logo, but you can use the expired copyright images of him in art, provided you don't use him in anything that uses trademark until Disney is no more...and judging from the way they are going with their poor decision making and constant destruction and failures of once beloved IPs that they brought and (ahem) "modernised," it won't be long now.
@@krocialblack I said Mickey Mouse is "sort of" out of copyright, not "absolutely". He won't be absolutely public domain, in terms of modern visual design (which began in about 1939) until about January 1, 3035. Please stop arguing with me. I made my point clearly. Mickey Mouse IS (for SOME intents and purposes) in the public domain!
@@SonicPowerofficialytyou can’t call your character Mickey Mouse that is trademark by Disney all modern versions of Mickey Mouse is of limits. Steam boat Willie is public domain not Mickey Mouse
The new animation has nothing to do with Steamboat Willie, that is in the public domain, and that is where it will stay. Disney can do nothing about it. Plus trademarks are not a way of getting a copyright forever.
7:05 The slits in his eyes aren't meant to be pupils, they're meant to be shines reflecting light. The black part of his eyes are his pupils, with the area around them out to his fur and muzzle being the sclera, though they don't draw any line separating the eyes from the muzzle.
While I do like the classic looking modern Mickey designs (which I think is actually getting revamped yet AGAIN,) I completely see the issue with how that design, even if it’s getting replaced already (probably with a design even closer to the original, as the one beforehand does have some details that set it apart from the Steamboat Willie design, making that style enough of it’s own thing) could very easily be used to keep doing their anti-public domain acts, ON TOP of the trademark of the actual OG design with his use in the LITERAL OPENING LOGO FOR THEIR IN HOUSE (OF MOUSE) ANIMATION STUDIO! (Side note, I 100% agree that it’s much better to enjoy something while still acknowledge the sins and issues of it than trying to willingly overlook those issues, blindly trust everything related to that thing, or worse…shun people for either enjoying something, or criticizing something, and trying to say that enjoying something from a problematic source makes you just as evil, even if you agree that the source is bad, or vice versa! I love my fair share of Disney stuff, both old and new, as much as the next guy, but I’m not ignoring any of their problems! And this is true for everything. Not just Disney!) Anyway, with the OG Winnie the Pooh in the public domain, I might see if I can create a sci-fi spy thriller animated mini series with the villain being a mouse as a not-so-subtle jab at THE mouse! Also, I don’t think I’ve watched ANY Disney movies this year, at least in theaters. (Certainly not Marvel or Star Wars.) and I might go see Wish, but even then that’s a huge maybe. I want to give my time to creators and studios that really deserve it! Big studios, yes, but also plenty of indie projects, as I want to help grow the indie animation scene as much as possible! (And while I’m all for loosening the mouse’s grip on public domain, and encouraging people to allow others to use their works (within reason, and depending on the work) I also feel that in the meantime, it’s just as important to support completely original (relatively speaking) projects that aren’t based on existing source material or IP!)
They cant keep EVERY Mickey Mouse design in Circulation. Something's gonna slip through the Cracks. Also Call of Poohthulhu actually turned out pretty okay. It's like the Better Horror meets Winnie the Pooh take that isn't Blood and Honey.
@@mitchellalexander9162 also, I agree! They need to allow at least ONE Mickey design to enter the public domain! As unlikely as it may seem, I do hope it happens eventually!
@@drewo.127 I wanna say 8 out of the 9 (maybe Seven of the 9 if I'm being Harsh) stories are pretty good and interesting Takes on some slight Horror in the Hundred Acre Wood. With only one Story just looking like it shares more in common with Blood and Honey than Winnie the Pooh in its creation only paying lip service to the premise for a different story. But Overall its very interesting And they cant keep EVERY MICKEY in Trademark Circulation. This is a Problem that will only Compound itself with time and successive years.
I find it very hard for someone to use Mickey in their stories. I think it's almost impossible to use him without huge major problems even if you're a small independent creator
Honestly, I think it would be wise to make him look legally distinct. You could argue that Mickey's iconic 3 circle head, along with those ears that look the same from any angle, are covered by trademark law. So, change the ears. Sure, they're Mickey's most distinguishing feature, but if you want to be safe, I'd say change them.
@@Preteristboy there is this UA-camr named bringtolife who is making his own character but he spelled mickey in a different way his mickey is spelled like this Micki Mouse but her real name is Mika Vickey mouse so people can tell it’s not a Disney character. His mouse is soccer coach.
@@albertoromero5075 Okay, I legitimately have no idea who you're talking about. Who's this "NURD guy" you're referring to? And when in my comment did I ever mention I would "trust" someone? Please explain.
@@jakescartoons6045 for your information, the "nerd guy" is the guy in the video! and you should not trust him because its content is cringe more than Vailskibum content!
You see, I thought much the same with Pooh: They released that movie...Christopher Robin, was it? And I thought it was a move to have more Pooh out there in case somebody wanted to do the movie. "Grown up Christopher Robin faces Pooh, adulthood) is an obvious angle that somebody absolutely was gonna do, probably with that exact name, if you think about it. In truth it probably prevents a movie like it from happening (if only in a "it's been done already" sense) but obviously it doesn't prevent somebody from coming with a horror version or a body horror videogame or a straight adaptation of the book (that's a horror even if it's not trying). I think it's much the same with Mickey. That's the beauty of Public Domain: even when you've had a property for 100 years, somebody's gonna be able to come at it from an angle you didn't. Personally I liked Mickey Mouse well enough as a kid, but I can't remember a time that I wanted to work on Mickey Mouse. That I had ideas FOR Mickey Mouse. But because their copyright fuckery prevented me from using characters I WOULD have, you know, I kinda have to. Out of spite.
Ya know, Disney could have gotten their forever copyright without destroying the public domain in the process if, instead of having the base period extended over and over and over, they'd just lobbied to be able to extend an existing copyright multiple times. The only reason to do what they did instead is to cause as much harm to as many people as possible.
Also, Epic Mickey was great! You were thinking of Epic Micky 2! and that game came out like less than 15 years. cause 2023-15=2007. which the game should of released in 2007, not 2012 or 2010.
It's a good thing both Sherlock Holmes and Arsène Lupin are in the public domain, because I actually plan on using them for my own stories. Mickey Mouse on the other hand, that might be significantly harder to pull off.
dont forget: Herlock Sholmes! :3 way back in the day, an unofficial crossover between Arsène Lupin and Sherlock Holmes was written by Arsène's author. buuuuuut he ran into legal issues and had to rework it. the solution? swap the initials and make it legally distinct. yes, we have a bizarro version of Sherlock called Herlock Sholmes. yes, legally he's a unique character. and yes, he's public domain now as well. :3 sooooooo you could feature him as a gag character in your story! ^u^ might as well right? the fact that Sherlock has his own Wario is absolutely something that should be used to comedic effect. XD just make sure you dont pull from Ace Attorney's version of Herlock Sholmes, the handsome blonde haired detective who relies on others to improve his deduction skills.
@@jakescartoons6045 ^u^; embarrassingly, i'm more just knowledgeable about public domain characters. i've yet to read some classic literature, including both Holmes and Lupin. :3 that said, i got the Lupin vs Sholmes audio book recently, and intend to listen when i get the chance. so i might become a fan soon!
Ngl I'm really interested in how deep the racist roots of this company really go... I had no idea the iconic gloves were meant to promote stereotypes. Great video B]
I think he meant to say "white gloves are an element of minstrel shows and blackface and they chose to add them because of that" but he didn't explain it. it's an unfortunate fact from cartoon history, eventually it became "a look from cartoons" as it kept getting iterated and that type of minstrel humor died out but that's where it comes from.
"Where are the queer relationships?" Lumity (Luz Noceda & Amity Blight) and Veesha (Vee & Masha) from _The Owl House_ created by Dana Terrace & Alex Hirsch: Are we chopped liver to you?
I'm confused. What do you mean the first two Mickey shorts flopped? Steamboat Willy was released before the first two shorts, so how can something flop if it wasn't released?
Actually there’s a great video regarding The Lion King dabacle I despise current Disney as much as the next but we have to be fair even if I udderly despise how they’ve been doing this nonsense for last 5-7 years.
I would not put Loki or any of the Disney plus shows in the same level as Zootopia .Rogue One and Ratatouille. Agents of Shield deserves to be seen on the same level as them.
The first version of Mickey Mouse is now public domain and the rest will follow as the years pass.
The trademark of Mickey Mouse remains property of Disney until they eventually go bust. This means you can't use him as a business mascot or logo, but you can use the expired copyright images of him in art, provided you don't use him in anything that uses trademark until Disney is no more...and judging from the way they are going with their poor decision making and constant destruction and failures of once beloved IPs that they brought and (ahem) "modernised," it won't be long now.
Correction: You CAN legally use Mickey Mouse in your art because he’s now in the public domain, sort of. So this video is AUTOMATICALLY outdated.
Not really. Current Mickey is off limits. Steamboat Willy Mickey is up for grabs.
@@krocialblack I said Mickey Mouse is "sort of" out of copyright, not "absolutely". He won't be absolutely public domain, in terms of modern visual design (which began in about 1939) until about January 1, 3035. Please stop arguing with me. I made my point clearly. Mickey Mouse IS (for SOME intents and purposes) in the public domain!
Steamboat willie isn't mickey mouse though
@@JuiceEternalhe is
@@SonicPowerofficialytyou can’t call your character Mickey Mouse that is trademark by Disney all modern versions of Mickey Mouse is of limits. Steam boat Willie is public domain not Mickey Mouse
The new animation has nothing to do with Steamboat Willie, that is in the public domain, and that is where it will stay. Disney can do nothing about it. Plus trademarks are not a way of getting a copyright forever.
Update: you can now use the first depiction of Mickey Mouse now due to copyright law
Update: Now you can use Mickey Mouse in your art
Steamboat willy, not Mickey
This aged like cottage cheese
7:05 The slits in his eyes aren't meant to be pupils, they're meant to be shines reflecting light. The black part of his eyes are his pupils, with the area around them out to his fur and muzzle being the sclera, though they don't draw any line separating the eyes from the muzzle.
steamboat willie is public domain
This aged like milk
While I do like the classic looking modern Mickey designs (which I think is actually getting revamped yet AGAIN,) I completely see the issue with how that design, even if it’s getting replaced already (probably with a design even closer to the original, as the one beforehand does have some details that set it apart from the Steamboat Willie design, making that style enough of it’s own thing) could very easily be used to keep doing their anti-public domain acts, ON TOP of the trademark of the actual OG design with his use in the LITERAL OPENING LOGO FOR THEIR IN HOUSE (OF MOUSE) ANIMATION STUDIO!
(Side note, I 100% agree that it’s much better to enjoy something while still acknowledge the sins and issues of it than trying to willingly overlook those issues, blindly trust everything related to that thing, or worse…shun people for either enjoying something, or criticizing something, and trying to say that enjoying something from a problematic source makes you just as evil, even if you agree that the source is bad, or vice versa!
I love my fair share of Disney stuff, both old and new, as much as the next guy, but I’m not ignoring any of their problems! And this is true for everything. Not just Disney!)
Anyway, with the OG Winnie the Pooh in the public domain, I might see if I can create a sci-fi spy thriller animated mini series with the villain being a mouse as a not-so-subtle jab at THE mouse!
Also, I don’t think I’ve watched ANY Disney movies this year, at least in theaters. (Certainly not Marvel or Star Wars.) and I might go see Wish, but even then that’s a huge maybe.
I want to give my time to creators and studios that really deserve it! Big studios, yes, but also plenty of indie projects, as I want to help grow the indie animation scene as much as possible! (And while I’m all for loosening the mouse’s grip on public domain, and encouraging people to allow others to use their works (within reason, and depending on the work) I also feel that in the meantime, it’s just as important to support completely original (relatively speaking) projects that aren’t based on existing source material or IP!)
They cant keep EVERY Mickey Mouse design in Circulation. Something's gonna slip through the Cracks.
Also Call of Poohthulhu actually turned out pretty okay. It's like the Better Horror meets Winnie the Pooh take that isn't Blood and Honey.
@@mitchellalexander9162
Call of Poohthulu…
Ok…that sounds great!!!
@@mitchellalexander9162 also, I agree! They need to allow at least ONE Mickey design to enter the public domain!
As unlikely as it may seem, I do hope it happens eventually!
@@drewo.127 I wanna say 8 out of the 9 (maybe Seven of the 9 if I'm being Harsh) stories are pretty good and interesting Takes on some slight Horror in the Hundred Acre Wood.
With only one Story just looking like it shares more in common with Blood and Honey than Winnie the Pooh in its creation only paying lip service to the premise for a different story.
But Overall its very interesting
And they cant keep EVERY MICKEY in Trademark Circulation. This is a Problem that will only Compound itself with time and successive years.
I find it very hard for someone to use Mickey in their stories. I think it's almost impossible to use him without huge major problems even if you're a small independent creator
Honestly, I think it would be wise to make him look legally distinct. You could argue that Mickey's iconic 3 circle head, along with those ears that look the same from any angle, are covered by trademark law. So, change the ears. Sure, they're Mickey's most distinguishing feature, but if you want to be safe, I'd say change them.
use steamboat willie mikey
@@Preteristboy there is this UA-camr named bringtolife who is making his own character but he spelled mickey in a different way his mickey is spelled like this Micki Mouse but her real name is Mika Vickey mouse so people can tell it’s not a Disney character. His mouse is soccer coach.
the guy used ''disney copied Kimba '' in 2024
YMS: "Bruh" SFX
After 2024, you will probably have to create your own version of the character from scratch.
no, in 2024, you better to go outside and touch the grass!
because this video is lot of rubbish than Vailskibum content!
Seems kinda pointless though. At that point, it's not even Mickey Mouse. At least if I wanted to use Arsène Lupin, I could do that with no problem.
@@jakescartoons6045 you're really going to trust that NURD guy?
@@albertoromero5075 Okay, I legitimately have no idea who you're talking about. Who's this "NURD guy" you're referring to? And when in my comment did I ever mention I would "trust" someone? Please explain.
@@jakescartoons6045 for your information, the "nerd guy" is the guy in the video!
and you should not trust him because its content is cringe more than Vailskibum content!
You see, I thought much the same with Pooh: They released that movie...Christopher Robin, was it? And I thought it was a move to have more Pooh out there in case somebody wanted to do the movie. "Grown up Christopher Robin faces Pooh, adulthood) is an obvious angle that somebody absolutely was gonna do, probably with that exact name, if you think about it.
In truth it probably prevents a movie like it from happening (if only in a "it's been done already" sense) but obviously it doesn't prevent somebody from coming with a horror version or a body horror videogame or a straight adaptation of the book (that's a horror even if it's not trying).
I think it's much the same with Mickey. That's the beauty of Public Domain: even when you've had a property for 100 years, somebody's gonna be able to come at it from an angle you didn't.
Personally I liked Mickey Mouse well enough as a kid, but I can't remember a time that I wanted to work on Mickey Mouse. That I had ideas FOR Mickey Mouse. But because their copyright fuckery prevented me from using characters I WOULD have, you know, I kinda have to. Out of spite.
Its crazy that I had an idea of doing a human parody of Mickey Mouse for my Kooky Trails project. And this is happening. Totally perfect timing...
What about his Plane Crazy design? Without the shoes, circles around the eyes and scruffed up hair made to mimic Charles Lindbergh?
I think the silent version of that is in public domain as well, but not the sound, as they added sound and it came out after Steamboat.
Ya know, Disney could have gotten their forever copyright without destroying the public domain in the process if, instead of having the base period extended over and over and over, they'd just lobbied to be able to extend an existing copyright multiple times. The only reason to do what they did instead is to cause as much harm to as many people as possible.
Andrew Morris: shows the "lion king copying Kimba the white lion" drama.
YMS: "Bruh" SFX
Also, Epic Mickey was great!
You were thinking of Epic Micky 2! and that game came out like less than 15 years. cause 2023-15=2007. which the game should of released in 2007, not 2012 or 2010.
Costo should pay you for wearing that.
It's a good thing both Sherlock Holmes and Arsène Lupin are in the public domain, because I actually plan on using them for my own stories. Mickey Mouse on the other hand, that might be significantly harder to pull off.
dont forget: Herlock Sholmes!
:3 way back in the day, an unofficial crossover between Arsène Lupin and Sherlock Holmes was written by Arsène's author. buuuuuut he ran into legal issues and had to rework it.
the solution? swap the initials and make it legally distinct.
yes, we have a bizarro version of Sherlock called Herlock Sholmes. yes, legally he's a unique character. and yes, he's public domain now as well.
:3 sooooooo you could feature him as a gag character in your story!
^u^ might as well right? the fact that Sherlock has his own Wario is absolutely something that should be used to comedic effect.
XD just make sure you dont pull from Ace Attorney's version of Herlock Sholmes, the handsome blonde haired detective who relies on others to improve his deduction skills.
@@LunaStardust666 It's always so nice to meet a fellow Arsène Lupin fan.
@@jakescartoons6045 ^u^; embarrassingly, i'm more just knowledgeable about public domain characters. i've yet to read some classic literature, including both Holmes and Lupin.
:3 that said, i got the Lupin vs Sholmes audio book recently, and intend to listen when i get the chance. so i might become a fan soon!
This is a cool channel and this video is really well done
Nothing but free advertising for Kirkland.
Hold on- we can use the gloveless and shoeless versions of the character.
i out, I OUT!!!
this is too much cringe for me!
Wait, there's a new Percy Jackson on Disney Plus? 😮
14:37 Why do you think it's terrible?
This aged
Okay well you're using the guy from Ratatouille as your face and they're not stopping you
Well this is like milk
Ngl I'm really interested in how deep the racist roots of this company really go... I had no idea the iconic gloves were meant to promote stereotypes. Great video B]
How do the gloves promote stereotypes? I want to understand. 😢
@@GRNKRBYI’m 95% sure what he said is BS.
I think he meant to say "white gloves are an element of minstrel shows and blackface and they chose to add them because of that" but he didn't explain it.
it's an unfortunate fact from cartoon history, eventually it became "a look from cartoons" as it kept getting iterated and that type of minstrel humor died out but that's where it comes from.
Good video, keep up the good work!
garbage 👎
"Where are the queer relationships?"
Lumity (Luz Noceda & Amity Blight) and Veesha (Vee & Masha) from _The Owl House_ created by Dana Terrace & Alex Hirsch: Are we chopped liver to you?
Disney tried to kill that show
I'm confused. What do you mean the first two Mickey shorts flopped? Steamboat Willy was released before the first two shorts, so how can something flop if it wasn't released?
Plane Crazy was never picked up for distribution, but it existed before Steamboat Willie.
Actually there’s a great video regarding The Lion King dabacle I despise current Disney as much as the next but we have to be fair even if I udderly despise how they’ve been doing this nonsense for last 5-7 years.
Don't worry South Park will save the day
this aged.. not good?
FAIR USE!! FAIR USE!!
I would not put Loki or any of the Disney plus shows in the same level as Zootopia .Rogue One and Ratatouille. Agents of Shield deserves to be seen on the same level as them.
why is nobody talking about south park mickey ?
Terrible game for the wii ):