Jun 2020, i just got PX-470, what attracts me, in fact, is speakerphone on front, microphone position on the side so i can keep it in pocket and not worry mic be covered, and the most important batteries and what that mean thy are replaceable and cheep but all the problems with digital devices an phones come from rechargeable batteries that eventually burn the hardware.
I have both.The ICD 470 have a little bit clearer sound .The recorder works like a charm. The sound quality is very clear! I can't say enough nice things about this small recorder. It is easy to use. It gives very clear crisp recordings and picks up sounds in its neighbourhood easily. More than happy with the quality.
sir, I deeply appreciate your effort. I have 3 questions. first is how big is the difference of the recording quality? Is it a big deal? I rarely use this recorder maybe once or twice a year so I believe carrying the battery might be better compared to a built-in battery in ux560. what is your suggestion and how good is the noise reduction in the comparison of these 2 models?
I'd say very minimal, as you can tell from the video. And yes, I agree with you, if you use the recorder once or twice a year, get the px470. The ux560 is built for everyday use, I don't know how well the internal battery would hold up being charge once a year. The noise reduction on both models is very good, and even better if you use the NCF filter.
Thank you for the information. I bought Sony ICD-PX470 due to Sony ICD-UX560F have "expired" exactly (during MCO Virus Covid 19 attack) after one year of the warranty given by SONY. I like the .mp3 format. Keep updating. Good Job Weloty.
I would go with the PX470. At least you can change the batteries at your will...if the battery in the UX560 dies and is no longer chargeable...then you have a paper weight, unless you pay to have it serviced and get a replacement battery installed. This is why i do not purchase any device with internal batteries (unless it is only the G-Project portable speaker).
Definitely PX-470, speaker on the front like radio, mix on the side line for access when keeping in pocket and batteries that can be trashed saving internal hardware of constant circuit.
I've never owned a smartphone capable of producing the quality sound of digital voice recorders .Especially the high DVR models that sell for over $100 👍 The Sony px470 is a great value .I own one
I will use my recorder to motorcycle camping Vlogging. I will use an in helmet mic with it. The longer battery life and ability to change the battery when I am camping is a big plus for me. 4gb internal storage is more than enough for my needs. At home, I can use rechargable batteries.
Virey nice demo and comparison. Pl post another video showing the usage of vc sony icd-ux 560f , like editing the recordings ,usage T marks etc like a tutorial. Thanks again.pl update
Mmh, this will take a while - I'd rather do short videos as opposed to one long tutorial. I'll probably only do it for the ux570, since the ux560 is discontinued, but the two recorders are very similar. Subscribe to the channel, and turn on the notification, once I upload the videos, you'll get a notification.
The internal circuits on these 2 models are very similar. Hard to say which one is better, I'll get a resistor and test these and see if there's a difference in sound quality.
Can someone help? I purchased this recorder and tried two different lavs. The 3.5mm TS jack worked. However, my preferred lav is a 3.5mm TRRS. It doesn't work. It was suggested to not push it in all of the way. That failed to work. I have searched for an adapter and/or cable on Amazon, Best Buy, Walmart and just Googled it. Still, no luck. The lav that does work came with a wireless set, so using it with this recorder limits me. Will a TRS mike work? Suggestions?
Weloty my mobile has the radio and 3.5 to 3.5mm output cable. Will that not work? What spec is needed for this? As in there are many Trs cables so confused. It says it is 6.35mm
The ux560 (and most other recorders) have a TRS jack. Phones have a TRRS jack, they need the extra ring for the microphone. A male to male TRS cable will probably work to record radio from your phone to this recorder. I cannot guarantee that it will work because your phone manufacturer may have used a different non standard scheme (especially on older iPhones). If TRS cable does not work, then you'll need to get a TRRS cable and an adapter to convert the TRRS cable to TRS. Because the ux560 will not work with a TRRS plug, you need to convert it to TRS. This post has a great section on the differences between TS, TRS, and TRRS plugs. weloty.com/best-clip-on-microphone-for-interviews/ Oh, and these recorders have a 3.5mm (1/8 inch) jack, as opposed to 6.25mm (1/4) jack.
Hi Rohan. Need more information before I can assist you. What mac model and OS version are you using? Which recorder do you want to connect to the mac?
PX-470 in line with Sony Walkman tape and CD player, all features there a mic, batteries and a speakerphone! Bravo Sony! (PX-560 more like digital memory card, no personality, no fun..)
Very likely, especially on online stores. On Amazon, I've never seen new PX470's run out of stock. And I guess Sony will keep making these for a few more years before they replace them with new models.
If you had say 100 files recorded on these how can you go back and find the one you want without using a computer?? Files are only dated and number? You would need to have a journal with name of podcast, date etc right? Thanks
All you need to know is the date and time of the recording as all the recording are saved using the YYMMDD-HHMM format by default. Then you can search for the file by Rec Date.
No issues with the battery. The only issue I've had with the ux560 is the slide out USB. I bumped into the recorder when it was directly, without a cable, attached to my PC. Semi-broke it, but it still works.
Frankly, I would go for the 560 were it not for the lithium ion battery. I prefer the removable AAA batteries of the 470 for it's practicality; I have a lot of rechargeable high capacity NiMh, swapping them out is a matter of seconds rather than the 3 minutes for a quick charge. And all lithium ion batteries are only good for a few hundred charges, after which the built in battery, and by extension the entire unit, becomes disposable. The fact that they both record mp3's and PCM onto a micro-SD is great, since it solves the issue I have with the Panasonic voice recorder I have, where you need proprietary software to download the audio files from the device, and if you no longer have the software disk, you're SOL, so this is a move in the right direction. Either way, I'll probably be picking up the 470 in the near future.
Great point. And that was what I thought when I was choosing between the 2 recorders. But, and this is a big one, the ux560 has liberated me from having to think about batteries. I pick up the recorder and start recording. That convenience means that my PX470 is rarely, if ever, used. With the PX470, I have to look for batteries.... I thought the in-built battery is going to be an issue. But it's not.
To access the language menu on both of these recorders, in the main menu, go to Settings>Common Settings>Language. The region you bought your recorder will determine the language options you'll get.
The ux560 and the ux570 come with internal batteries that are not easily replaceable (require soldering), for the ux470 just turn it over, flip open the battery cover and replace the AAA batteries.
@@_weloty is this it The battery. Does battery pop out. Please show how to remove www.amazon.com/LG-LGIP-520B-Lithium-Phone-Battery/dp/B0015A4TQK/ref=asc_df_B0015A4TQK/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309821163350&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15344917884874001858&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004885&hvtargid=pla-568972954499&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=57207177050&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309821163350&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15344917884874001858&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004885&hvtargid=pla-568972954499
For the ux560 the internal battery looks like this: www.amazon.com/230mah-Polymer-Lithium-Rechargeable-Battery/dp/B077Z3YMDD But it's thinner - I searched the inter-webs and never found a replacement that could fit. It's really tight inside the recorder and my guess the battery is proprietary - you can only get it from Sony. If the battery on your ux560 is dead, your best bet is to get in touch with Sony and see if they can replace it for you. I have not opened up my ux570, so I don't know if they've changed the internal battery design.
I tried not to edit the audio in post, so that you ( the viewers) could have a good reflection of the audio from the 2 recorders. Was that useful, or would you rather I normalized the audio for the whole video?
The px 470 could record very well, it is a very good gadget. I use it to record my clases teoricas, ateneos.. all i could record and it is better than a phone... there´s no comparision.
@@_weloty i have a audio cable for recording and i have a rx d55 bombox recorder with cd casette usb , all in one does it word as well with the recorder
Yes Johnny, the ux470 has no backlight. I'm not sure I agree with your second statement - that you can't use it in dimly lit rooms. It does come with an operation LED, so even in a dark room, you can easily tell if it's recording. And also comes with operational beep sounds. If you set up the ux470 beforehand, in a well lit room, then all you have to do is power it on and press the record button in a dark room! My point is, if you know your way around the ux470, you can use it in dimly lit rooms.
@@_weloty Yeah, if you learn your way around it, you can tell a lot from the feel of the buttons. It does record really well, with very little background noise.
I will resume: The pop out usb system it is a Shit !!, and the UX 560´s built in battery NO reemplazable tooo... The PX 470 it is better and could record very very well and it could be a gadget for all your life (except for the pop out usb) but the PX 470 in generals terms is better than the ux 560. I had the ux 533 too, i have already sold it out. IMO the PX 470 is better.
True, the slide out USB is poorly designed, on the ux560 and PX470. When I got the ux560, I was scared that the internal battery would die and I'd be left with a very light paperweight. But 3 years later, it's going strong and I've not had issues with the batteries. Though I've come close (twice) to almost ripping off the pop out USB...I'd be hard pressed to say which one is better (as an all purpose audio recorder).
@@_weloty Yeah, you have to be careful not to bump these recorders when they are plugged into USB port. Using a short male-female cable will prevent those problems.
Shit is that the ux 560 uses a BUILT IN battery NO REEMPLAZABLE and DESECHABLE. The PX 470 is better. I´ve had the UX 533 and PX 470. Now, i´ve already sold the ux 533 and i use very happy the PX 470.
Great video. Really appreciate the text along the bottom showing how you're recording
Glad you liked it
Jun 2020, i just got PX-470, what attracts me, in fact, is speakerphone on front, microphone position on the side so i can keep it in pocket and not worry mic be covered, and the most important batteries and what that mean thy are replaceable and cheep but all the problems with digital devices an phones come from rechargeable batteries that eventually burn the hardware.
I have both.The ICD 470 have a little bit clearer sound .The recorder works like a charm. The sound quality is very clear! I can't say enough nice things about this small recorder. It is easy to use. It gives very clear crisp recordings and picks up sounds in its neighbourhood easily. More than happy with the quality.
Agree
Can you fast forward to a certain place in the recording?
Does the 3d version record in stl format?. It's a high detailed photoreal IC Voice Recorder, Sony LCD-UX543. Can't find it on youtube
sir, I deeply appreciate your effort. I have 3 questions. first is how big is the difference of the recording quality? Is it a big deal? I rarely use this recorder maybe once or twice a year so I believe carrying the battery might be better compared to a built-in battery in ux560. what is your suggestion and how good is the noise reduction in the comparison of these 2 models?
I'd say very minimal, as you can tell from the video. And yes, I agree with you, if you use the recorder once or twice a year, get the px470. The ux560 is built for everyday use, I don't know how well the internal battery would hold up being charge once a year. The noise reduction on both models is very good, and even better if you use the NCF filter.
Thank you for the information. I bought Sony ICD-PX470 due to Sony ICD-UX560F have "expired" exactly (during MCO Virus Covid 19 attack) after one year of the warranty given by SONY. I like the .mp3 format. Keep updating. Good Job Weloty.
Great, just FYI Sony have a new recorder, the ux570. Very similar to the ux560...
I would go with the PX470. At least you can change the batteries at your will...if the battery in the UX560 dies and is no longer chargeable...then you have a paper weight, unless you pay to have it serviced and get a replacement battery installed. This is why i do not purchase any device with internal batteries (unless it is only the G-Project portable speaker).
great comparison sir. really appreciate
Most welcome!
Definitely PX-470, speaker on the front like radio, mix on the side line for access when keeping in pocket and batteries that can be trashed saving internal hardware of constant circuit.
I've never owned a smartphone capable of producing the quality sound of digital voice recorders .Especially the high DVR models that sell for over $100 👍
The Sony px470 is a great value .I own one
Can you rewind or fast forward to a specific place in your recording?
but.....where is the sample sound, recorded in these devices ?
I will use my recorder to motorcycle camping Vlogging. I will use an in helmet mic with it. The longer battery life and ability to change the battery when I am camping is a big plus for me. 4gb internal storage is more than enough for my needs. At home, I can use rechargable batteries.
Virey nice demo and comparison.
Pl post another video showing the usage of vc sony icd-ux 560f , like editing the recordings ,usage T marks etc like a tutorial. Thanks again.pl update
Mmh, this will take a while - I'd rather do short videos as opposed to one long tutorial. I'll probably only do it for the ux570, since the ux560 is discontinued, but the two recorders are very similar. Subscribe to the channel, and turn on the notification, once I upload the videos, you'll get a notification.
164/5000
Hi, don't get tired of these two models to connect to the mixer via aux cable Which one has the best quality overall?
The internal circuits on these 2 models are very similar. Hard to say which one is better, I'll get a resistor and test these and see if there's a difference in sound quality.
Can someone help? I purchased this recorder and tried two different lavs. The 3.5mm TS jack worked. However, my preferred lav is a 3.5mm TRRS. It doesn't work. It was suggested to not push it in all of the way. That failed to work. I have searched for an adapter and/or cable on Amazon, Best Buy, Walmart and just Googled it. Still, no luck. The lav that does work came with a wireless set, so using it with this recorder limits me. Will a TRS mike work? Suggestions?
Have a look at this video: ua-cam.com/video/jC3QEmORkUg/v-deo.html&lc, and if you have further questions, let me know.
@@_weloty Many thanks.
сони 470 или 520?
Hi, can i use it to connect with my radio via 3.5 mm jack and record a song directly from radio or any other sources
Yes you can. You'll need a TRS cable. And this recorder comes with a sync record feature that's very hardy for recording radio.
Weloty my mobile has the radio and 3.5 to 3.5mm output cable. Will that not work? What spec is needed for this? As in there are many Trs cables so confused. It says it is 6.35mm
The ux560 (and most other recorders) have a TRS jack. Phones have a TRRS jack, they need the extra ring for the microphone. A male to male TRS cable will probably work to record radio from your phone to this recorder. I cannot guarantee that it will work because your phone manufacturer may have used a different non standard scheme (especially on older iPhones). If TRS cable does not work, then you'll need to get a TRRS cable and an adapter to convert the TRRS cable to TRS. Because the ux560 will not work with a TRRS plug, you need to convert it to TRS.
This post has a great section on the differences between TS, TRS, and TRRS plugs.
weloty.com/best-clip-on-microphone-for-interviews/
Oh, and these recorders have a 3.5mm (1/8 inch) jack, as opposed to 6.25mm (1/4) jack.
Hi there, is it possible to record external audio into these devices? not an external microphone, but say like sound from an aux cable?
Hi. Yes you can. Just plug the 3.5mm aux into the mic jack...
@@_weloty And how is the quality ?
Quality of...?
@@_weloty The sound quality
@GLAC The sound quality of what? A specific recorder? Aux cable connected to the recorder? Internal mics...?
Well Done!
Hi if any one can tell me how to update the firmware using apple mac computer. it say not supporting. only windows. thanks
Hi Rohan. Need more information before I can assist you. What mac model and OS version are you using? Which recorder do you want to connect to the mac?
Get a PC and quit the mac
PX-470 in line with Sony Walkman tape and CD player, all features there a mic, batteries and a speakerphone! Bravo Sony! (PX-560 more like digital memory card, no personality, no fun..)
Hi. Can I use 560. Sony. By cable to record you tube music from I ph.
It means recording you tube music in 560 by cable
From I ph
Check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/OPmf3mQN9Pc/v-deo.html on recording external devices.
At this point in the product’s production run, how likely is to get a new (non-used/non-returned) PX470?
Very likely, especially on online stores. On Amazon, I've never seen new PX470's run out of stock. And I guess Sony will keep making these for a few more years before they replace them with new models.
Weloty - But they already have new models.
Which ones?
Weloty - UX 560
Well, the ux560 and the PX470 were released at the same time. So one is not a replacement for the other. They are aimed at different market segments.
If you had say 100 files recorded on these how can you go back and find the one you want without using a computer?? Files are only dated and number? You would need to have a journal with name of podcast, date etc right? Thanks
All you need to know is the date and time of the recording as all the recording are saved using the YYMMDD-HHMM format by default. Then you can search for the file by Rec Date.
Why you didn't want to show us the full picture of these recorders? Same hight?
This post: weloty.com/sony-icd-ux560-vs-sony-icd-ux570/, has an image of the height comparison.
after 2 years used...how about battery life on ux560?
No issues with the battery. The only issue I've had with the ux560 is the slide out USB. I bumped into the recorder when it was directly, without a cable, attached to my PC. Semi-broke it, but it still works.
@@_weloty well thanks bud will noticed
Frankly, I would go for the 560 were it not for the lithium ion battery. I prefer the removable AAA batteries of the 470 for it's practicality; I have a lot of rechargeable high capacity NiMh, swapping them out is a matter of seconds rather than the 3 minutes for a quick charge. And all lithium ion batteries are only good for a few hundred charges, after which the built in battery, and by extension the entire unit, becomes disposable. The fact that they both record mp3's and PCM onto a micro-SD is great, since it solves the issue I have with the Panasonic voice recorder I have, where you need proprietary software to download the audio files from the device, and if you no longer have the software disk, you're SOL, so this is a move in the right direction. Either way, I'll probably be picking up the 470 in the near future.
Great point. And that was what I thought when I was choosing between the 2 recorders. But, and this is a big one, the ux560 has liberated me from having to think about batteries. I pick up the recorder and start recording. That convenience means that my PX470 is rarely, if ever, used. With the PX470, I have to look for batteries.... I thought the in-built battery is going to be an issue. But it's not.
i also have the same thought. and once the battery is gone, recorder id gone
@@_weloty It's not an issue YET. It may be 5 years, but the built-in battery will eventually fail.
@@jbr84tx and when it does you can still replace it
@@JonathanRogler The unit (560) is not meant to be taken apart. The battery is not replaceable.
Which one is best ?
Have a look at this: ua-cam.com/video/C1BPpYnd9Vw/v-deo.html
How language settings? Please
To access the language menu on both of these recorders, in the main menu, go to Settings>Common Settings>Language. The region you bought your recorder will determine the language options you'll get.
Thanks
👍👍👍👍 thanks a lot 🙏
Most welcome
How about tx650? Is it better than ux560?
I don't own the TX650, I've heard good things about it though...
tx650 doesn't have mic input nor headphone output option. but its sleek to hide and clip is provided to attach to your shirt or suit to record.
@@IamYogi thanks for the reply! I've been using ux570 instead and loving it so far.
Please show how to change battery. Not one video out there to show it
The ux560 and the ux570 come with internal batteries that are not easily replaceable (require soldering), for the ux470 just turn it over, flip open the battery cover and replace the AAA batteries.
@@_weloty is this it
The battery. Does battery pop out. Please show how to remove
www.amazon.com/LG-LGIP-520B-Lithium-Phone-Battery/dp/B0015A4TQK/ref=asc_df_B0015A4TQK/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309821163350&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15344917884874001858&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004885&hvtargid=pla-568972954499&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=57207177050&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309821163350&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15344917884874001858&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004885&hvtargid=pla-568972954499
For the ux560 the internal battery looks like this: www.amazon.com/230mah-Polymer-Lithium-Rechargeable-Battery/dp/B077Z3YMDD
But it's thinner - I searched the inter-webs and never found a replacement that could fit. It's really tight inside the recorder and my guess the battery is proprietary - you can only get it from Sony. If the battery on your ux560 is dead, your best bet is to get in touch with Sony and see if they can replace it for you.
I have not opened up my ux570, so I don't know if they've changed the internal battery design.
Your audio is real low, especially from the 470, you should up the volume in the video editor, ah, the giant squid, that made it more normal!!!!
I tried not to edit the audio in post, so that you ( the viewers) could have a good reflection of the audio from the 2 recorders. Was that useful, or would you rather I normalized the audio for the whole video?
The px 470 could record very well, it is a very good gadget. I use it to record my clases teoricas, ateneos.. all i could record and it is better than a phone... there´s no comparision.
Hi dos this sony. Digital. Audio recorder récord music as and csn I récord of CDs too
If you have a separate CD player with a headphone out and the right cable to connect the DC player to the recorder, yes you can.
@@_weloty i have a audio cable for recording and i have a rx d55 bombox recorder with cd casette usb , all in one does it word as well with the recorder
@@_weloty it has A HEADPHONE out and it also has music port,
The PX470 has no backlight. You can't use it in dimly lit rooms.
Yes Johnny, the ux470 has no backlight. I'm not sure I agree with your second statement - that you can't use it in dimly lit rooms. It does come with an operation LED, so even in a dark room, you can easily tell if it's recording. And also comes with operational beep sounds. If you set up the ux470 beforehand, in a well lit room, then all you have to do is power it on and press the record button in a dark room! My point is, if you know your way around the ux470, you can use it in dimly lit rooms.
@@_weloty Yeah, if you learn your way around it, you can tell a lot from the feel of the buttons. It does record really well, with very little background noise.
I will resume: The pop out usb system it is a Shit !!, and the UX 560´s built in battery NO reemplazable tooo... The PX 470 it is better and could record very very well and it could be a gadget for all your life (except for the pop out usb) but the PX 470 in generals terms is better than the ux 560.
I had the ux 533 too, i have already sold it out. IMO the PX 470 is better.
True, the slide out USB is poorly designed, on the ux560 and PX470. When I got the ux560, I was scared that the internal battery would die and I'd be left with a very light paperweight. But 3 years later, it's going strong and I've not had issues with the batteries. Though I've come close (twice) to almost ripping off the pop out USB...I'd be hard pressed to say which one is better (as an all purpose audio recorder).
@@_weloty Yeah, you have to be careful not to bump these recorders when they are plugged into USB port. Using a short male-female cable will prevent those problems.
Improve your audio. Audio really worst
holy shit. is this device even necessary in 2019.
Voice recorders have lots more features for recording audio than smartphones. And better audio.
Definitely. I'm looking for cheap recorders I can lav multiple people up with.
Shit is that the ux 560 uses a BUILT IN battery NO REEMPLAZABLE and DESECHABLE. The PX 470 is better. I´ve had the UX 533 and PX 470. Now, i´ve already sold the ux 533 and i use very happy the PX 470.
Mr. World yes it is for different style videos where the camera is far away.