History Professor Reacts to "Gladiator II" Trailer
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- History professor Jared Frederick offers his initial thoughts on Ridley Scott's latest historical epic, "Gladiator II." While the film's allegiance to the historical record is dubious from the get-go, how might this new movie compare cinematically to the original? Also, be sure to watch our full historical breakdown of 2000's "Gladiator" here: Part I: • History Professor Brea...
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Also, be sure to watch our full historical breakdown of 2000's "Gladiator" here:
Part I: ua-cam.com/video/Mk6hxtOAgMk/v-deo.html
Part II: ua-cam.com/video/5C03K5mI9VM/v-deo.html
A sequel nobody asked for
To be fair, Commodus also didn't die like he did in the original, so Lucius' mother showing up here is not a big surprise. They needed a familiar face from the original to create a visual connection. Most other actors are new, after all.
This sequel looks crap
@@Jeffro5564Then it looks like great crap
They should have brought back Djimon Honsou and Tommy Flanagan also
@@Jeffro5564 Maybe but I think the point remains that if we're going to focus on historical accuracy, it's important to remember that the first Gladiator wasn't very accurate either in a lot of ways. And hey, that's fine it's still a kickass movie.
Big brain😮
THIS IS IN REVERSE ORDER OF HISTORY. The first film had trapdoors under the Colosseum's arena, while the sequel shows mock sea battles. The mock sea battles happened FIRST, then, as soon as they started digging under the arena to make tunnels, they could NO LONGER have them.
Keep telling yourself that
@@Broken_robot1986 No, I might consider them filling the tunnels with water and rotting the wood and ropes that operated the trapdoors :)
In the trailer Lucius mother gives away “maximus ring”. And Lucius is apparently a gladiator all grown up. So this isn’t reverse order of history. I may not be entirely sure about the plot but it’s weird and it reeks of garbage.
@@abc-uo7pc The second film is meant to be a sequel, but it is not historically accurate. In fiction you can make up the rules, like in Starwars for example.
@@abc-uo7pc Reading comprehension is essential bro.
Will there be lots of wheat petting? That's what we really want to see.
Ha ha. Wheat is actually very symbolically in the context of Ancient Rome.
Oh I hope there is wheat petting, it feels ethereal.
"There's some goooood barley..."
Didn’t Lucius know his mother in the first movie. He was like 10 so even if he was shipped off after first movie how would he forget her?
I did not realize the Algerian accent sounds just like Brooklyn, New York accent
I did not realize the Roman accent sounds just like a British accent.
@@SamsonTheBlaster
It's been shorthand for decades- no one actually believes Romans were speaking English - our brains are meant to gloss over it, to get immersed in the story...
...or that a character of mixed Berber and Italian provincial descent resembles someone from sub - Saharan Africa.
I didn't know Rome turned to Brooklyn Zoo.
@@bsaneil Most African-Americans whose families can be traced to the founding have a European ancestor (25 to 30% European origin). Denzel looks very different from a sub-saharan African of the time.
Denzel is a bit like Sean Connery in that he always plays himself. He's a Scottish Englishman, a Scottish American, a Scottish Russian submarine commander.
Exactly right. And if his character is really an Algerian he should have been played by another actor. Woke bullshit
@@GabrielSanchez-ge1bs See Juba made sense. So much sense in fact that people that have watched the original multiple times just remember his character, it was Maximus, Juba and Hagen, the amount of people I've seen recently that have been like "oh yeah there was Juba!" like they knew there was Juba.... But they remember Juba as Juba not as a black pov character. There wasn't any inconsistent logic or immersion breaking with Juba.
Denzel is a lot more ambiguous though... His skin tone is too dark and he's obviously not making any attempts with accents or mannerisms here, he's just an American New Yorker.
Race swapping isn't like an absolute thing people can be reasonable and look at it on a colour gradient/ethnic makeup basis (this is actually why Pedro Pascal pulls off so many different native nationalities convincingly in tv and cinema) but with Denzel he is just a bit too dark for native Algerian (taking your word on that as I've not looked up this Macrinus character myself). I'd actually be alright with it to be honest if he at least tried a bit with the accent and mannerisms to smooth it out, but god damn he just looks like he's playing Denzel Washington.
@@GabrielSanchez-ge1bs thank you very much for telling the truth, an algerian berber
@@Amenkadhe’s not telling the truth though. The name Berber was coined by the Greeks for all people from North Africa who were diverse in ethnicity, including black.
@@davidreece5867 the North is not and was not black. You Can find métis berbers in désert zones, middle age islam expansion
The biggest surprise for me was the absence of the first film's secret sauce: Hans Zimmer.
Hans Zimmer is not composing the score for this trainwreck of a movie.
@@ChienaAvtzon 💯
@@ChienaAvtzonno indeed, cause nowadays he's useless and what was great about Gladiator was actually composed by Lisa Gerard and not by zimmer 😂 dude doesn't even know how to create "melodies" anymore, everything is just some blllaaaarrr blllurmmm BS. Fortunately this one is scored by Harry Gregson Williams who already worked with Ridley in the past.
@@ChienaAvtzonLooks better than the OG
I first learned about the Romans flooding the arena to stage naval battles when I watched Nick Hodges' review of the first movie on History Buffs and my first thought was "Now that's something that needs to be in the sequel." So I'm very excited to see it now.
It's a very cool aspect.
@@ReelHistory yeah but those sharks in the water though... omg. Not to mention that naval invasion. What coastal city in the Mediterranean would the Romans want to conquer in the bloody 210s??
@@ThutUPBthey were crocodiles not sharks, that I would believe
However, it is written in ancient chronicles that one time they flooded one amphitheatre AND released sharks. It was not the Colosseum though.
Original film was fantastic ,now we have a box ticking sequal with Rap music. No suprise nowdays.
I'm afraid you can't replace Russel Crowe (Maximus) and that's the problem. No matter how good the movie.
Well I mean you can, it's not like he's even a historical person 😂
Yeah, they said that about 300 too with Leonidas. But Themistocles was pretty damn cool in 300 Rise.
Especially when he said about 3000 times he had nothing to do with the film .. He is DEAD .. WELL HIS CHARACTER
these movies arnt historical movies they are action adventure epics set in that time period. Movie looks great.
Of course, it's historical fiction.
denzel looks like he didn't age after his stint with Taking of Pelham One Two Three.
He turns SEVENTY this year lol. He's older than my dad by like 3 months. My dad is starting to look like he drank from the wrong Grail cup.
It is not nice to say such things about your dad.
As someone who is both a history and film buff I think we need to redefine the term "historical accuracy". Films like Kingdom Of Heaven, U-571, 1917, War Horse or Fury might be fictional in terms of actual events but I do consider them historically accurate because they properly capture the atmosphere of the subject matter spot on. In fact the film Fury touches on a fark piece WW2 not often talked, that being the many war crimes carried by allies troops.
I need to know how they waterproofed the coliseum floor to stop the underground network getting flooded when filling it with water.
I don't believe the famous Coliseum was ever flooded for mock naval battles. I remember a video I saw that mentioned this happened in a different coliseum (designed for the purpose) in Rome.
Permaseal
I believe it's a model colosseum that they built in Malta specifically for each film (re-built for the sequel).
@@Mr_Dumpty my point was how did they do it 2000 years ago in reality? If they actually did.
@@Ghost-of-a-man Ah, I misunderstood.
Wasn't the flooding ended when they built the Hypogeum...which was in the first movie?
That was my first thought... but I'm sure they added it for "cool" factor. Technically they think it may have been flooded for naval battles but I don't think that it was ever confirmed that it actually happened.
@@Seansds
It is confirmed
Yes, flooding of the arena was done many years before this movie is set to take place.
Dude the sound track they chose for this trailer make it cheap and don’t fit the period
Par for the course in trailers these days.
Strength and Honor.
On my command unleash hell.
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius.
I will have my revenge.
Also I believe Djimon Hounsou will appear in this film as a way to anchor the story just as Connie Nielsen to furher push Lucius' journey.
And actually I'm not even finished. When The Gladiator came out, here in Rome EVERY SINGLE ROMAN was so invested, I was 10 at the time, Russell Crowe was actually nominated "Ambassador of Rome in the World" by the Mayor of Rome recently.... and he is active too. He said he feels like the uncle of all romans and he's not wrong, people deified him, you can't imagine what the hell of a HUGE thing that film was. I was strolling around where Julius Caesar was slain... I was like "...whatever...". Because I am used to it, that's it. A.S. Roma Football Club even had a limited edition of the DVD.... The point is, this is not going to go well, the expectations are too high as a sequel of a film that was THAT big here. The last time I've been at the Colosseum was for May the 4th be with you (Star Wars) and I thought the idea was cool, you can find articles and pics online. When Crowe left after being nominated ambassador, he said "Sono sempre al servizio di Roma." (I am always at the service of Rome) causing the entire city to chant his name to the airport. Sorry Scott, you cannot top that.
The most compelling parts of the Trailer are veiled in ambiguity. Macrinus is never mentionned by name. The two creature emperors are Caracala and Geta, brothers who hated each other with a passion. They were the sons of Septimius Severus Caracala ended up assassinating his brother and then in turn being killed by Macrinus in the end. It would seem that Lucius (the boy from Gladiator) will be used as a pawn somehow by Macrinus to bring about the destruction of the brothers. The start of the movie would be set about 15 years after the events of the first movie. I was VERY skeptical about this movie when I heard it had been greenlit. Now my curiosity is peaked. I suspect the exchange 'What can I give you?' 'All Rome's armies' 'Too much' 'A generalship' comes at the end of the film when Macrinus ascends to the title of Emperor having triumphed.
I don’t think he says “a generalship”. I think when he says the Roman armies are too much, he says “that general will do” and it cuts to Pedro Pascal, who is being set up as his rival. He didn’t want command of the armies, he wanted to destroy them.
So Romans had the ability to flood the arena with salt water and were able to transport sharks....
Flood the arena, yes. Transport sharks? No.
@@eclecticx I knew they flooded arena with water but not salt water.
@@ibematos Ah, gotchya. Missed that. :)
The thing with Scott’s Napoleon is he’s British and I knew he wouldn’t show him in a good light and more than a drop of negativity.
Napoleon needs to be both produced and directed by people who have the financial and creative wherewithal to do justice to a person who has a period of History named for him
I think you need an American director for a Napoleon movie so it's not just a hit piece or hagiography like if the English or French make it.
I liked the part where a gladiator rode that T-rex
Rancor
"interesting soundrack selection" is a very agreeable periphrasis Professor, as a roman myself. Quo usque tandem, Scott abuteris patientia nostra??? Quamdiu etiam furor iste tuus nos eludet? Quem ad finem sese effrenata iactabit audacia???
YEAH YO, Gladiators in the mother fu@king house, bring the swords and let's have a rap battle.
Cringe
If this is anything even close to how napoleon was it will be the exact reason why movie trailers are better than the actual movie itself.
Napoleon was a dumpster fire and seems like the best this movie can be is a good action movie.
Denzel plays Macrinus according to IMDB, so the movie has 3 emperors. Also, I am excited to see a Naumachia recreated.
Didn't want to spoil it for viewers! ;-)
So we're at the cusp of the Crisis of The Third Century.
Was he black...? I know there were black emperors, but did they change this guy to fit the wonderful Denzel?
@@interdimensionalsteve8172 he was Berber from Algeria, so I guess he had a dark skin but from an ethnic point of view someone like Tahar Rahim would have been a more accurate casting choice.
@@interdimensionalsteve8172 black emperors like Septimius Severus ?
"Intersting soundtrack selection..." Nothing goes better with ancient Rome then Jay Z 😂
300 rise of empire had war pigs for the trailer a rock song to a Ancient Greece movie you gonna bitch about that
Interesting, that Rhino-rider caught my attention as well: I think the helmet very much resembles the Gérôme-painting from 1872 (‘Pollice Verso’).
Which is indeed a fictionalized and idealized version of Greek and Roman history, dating right back to it’s introduction by JJ Winckelmann in the 18th century.
Blackwashing again though for Macrinus and too many blacks ("ethiopians") which were not a common sight in the Roman Empire. Even Septimius Severus was shocked at the sight of an Ethiopian guard at the Hadrian wall and as a result, the Emperor thought it was a bad omen. And the way they portray Caracalla and Geta as crazy sissies with makeup is ridiculous and nothing like what they were (even phenotypically).
Ridley Scott missed an opportunity here, as like Macrinus was, Septimius Severus was also a North African/Berber + Italic Roman, and his wife was Syrian I believe. Caracalla and Geta should reflect that mix, but oh well. I was thinking if anything Denzel should have been Septimius Severus instead.
Great ideas!
Septimus severus and Macrinus was from north Africa. They was Mediterraneans like Egyptian Greek and Italian. Not black .
@@HICHAM-73 Berbers have a range of looks from light skinned to dark-skinned like their North Central African neighbors, like the Tuareg. The truest Egyptians are the reddish brown to dark brown skinned ones in middle and southern Egypt. So I'll stick with what I said.
@@jaygee4411
The berber kingdom who was in relation with Roman empire was named ( Numidia ) its Mediterranean and this people was and are white even ther kings are described in roman historical books as white ..( massinissa git blue eyes ) nothing to do with touareg and there was no relation between touareg and Roman.
@@jaygee4411 No. Black people start to appear en masse with the islamic slave trade. So no, North Africa was very homogeneous and looked like what most Berbers look like to this day: light-skinned and mediterranean/MENA-looking. We have plenty of busts and depictions of the Severan dynasty as well as of the inhabitants of North Africa: they looked nothing like Denzel Washington.
Thank you for referring to the time as AD.
Macrinus was not black though
We should have elaborated more. We merely pointed out the fact that the empire was more diverse than typical Hollywood has acknowledged.
@@ReelHistory Darker complexion (your answer elsewhere) and diverse is a cop-out (do you have to perpetuate little lies to survive amongst modern academics?). North Africans were not black in Roman times and few are now. You might be interested to know that from a genetic stand-point Berbers/Amazigh are more DNA adjacent to Anglo-Saxons than they are to Bantu/Niger Congo (black) persons in West Africa. The black-ificaion of History (amongst Britons, Nordics, Greeks, Egyptians, ... ) is something your profession in modern times seems to lack the balls to address (and in actual fact some 'Historians' have been caught out actually promulgating these falsehoods). What hope is there for modern Historians when they cannot even get the superficial correct?
He was tho.. he was berber.. berbers where blk befor European slave trade, roman conquest, germanic invasion, arsb conquests, french conquest.. peoples stock change just like america, Australia exc
@@frankyyaggabot6222, no need to be rude about it. I'm not lying about anything, though I will concede I could have worded that part better.
@@frankyyaggabot6222Berbers, or North Africans were not one ethnicity, it was diverse. You’re doing the same thing you’re accusing the creator of.
Nice engagement for the channel, well deserved Prof! Looking forward to this, having not seen the trailer yet. The original wasn’t exactly historically accurate so we’ll see how it goes….
I appreciate the additional historical info you added to this story.
At this point, fans of "Gladiator" are used to a mix of historical accuracy and wild inaccuracy. But it's worth pointing out that the historical Macrinus never visited the city of Rome even once after becoming emperor. The inaccuracies of the first film didn't spoil my enjoyment of it. I don't know how many inaccuracies I'll be able to bear in the new film.
The Rhino scene was originally supposed to happen in the first film ..Ridley Scott had it story boarded and scripted but for whatever reason was not filmed ....not to mention the brief christians waiting to be set upon by lions which was deleted scene
Good that it didn't back then. Looks horribly video game-ish and over the top, but not in a good way
@@jovanjorgovan23 i agree.all that first 2000's decade CGI has aged horribly
@@reesepacker7983 20 years later the only good CGI is the one used for the out of focus background stuff. And that's all it ever should be used for. Can't do it for real - don't.
Honestly the lead actor feels uncharismatic and his performance looks flat.
100% agree.
So the naval battle in the coliseum arena was an actual thing that happened? Because that and the rhino made me feel like it was the Roman Empire in the Hunger Games/Fast and Furious universe rather than our own 😅
Yes, they had boats floating around in there, though they were usually reenactments and not actual combat.
You know what else would feel not real in ancient Rome? Commercials in colosseum! Yes, they really advertised new businesses like new bakers in town, or new wineries etc. And Ridley Scott didn't put that in Gladiator (2000) because the audience would say it was fake. Well, sometimes reality is stranger than fiction.
Naval battles did happen but not sure about a mounted rhino. Seems to be b.s.
I question the success when game of thrones and Vikings and all sorts of fantasy historical films are done so well on standard tv series. Will people show up to the theater for this?
Can’t believe the first film is a quarter of a century old!! Looking forward to the sequel - filmed in my home country of Malta like the first film.
Algerians were Berbers, not sub-Sahara. I had the same problem with Othello when Lawrence Fishburn played him. It changed the whole nuance of the pivotal conflict.
Many Berbers were black.
Berbers are not black at all, only if you say that Portuguese are black because there is some population in their old empire like Brésil who are blacks. Berbers are white from Africa, and in this time more than ever. If you want see a Berbers from "mauretanie cesarienne", the province of macrinus played by Denzel Washington, look at some football players like zidane or benzema. In Algeria there is less than 3% of population who are black or mixed and they live in the far south region not in the north.
@@davidreece5867 Berbers never were blacks. They are mediterranean caucasoids. The blacks in nowadays North Africa are descendent from slaves. It's like to say black Americans are anglo-saxons.
@@bobwilson2297 many berbers was black...... many tribes ara black in roman time..... ppl from sahara.....
yeah and Emperor look like irish guy..... But he born in Syria......
Macrinus was not a slave. He was the first non senator to become an emperor. He was a Berber and an Equestrian.
They stopped using the Coliseum for sea battles by the early 100's .
Rhino's were killed in the coliseum but probably not ridden.
Lucilla was killed by Commodus early in his rein.
I'm surprised Ridley Scott didn't include Julius Caesar battling Napoleon in Alaska.
Good job team!
The whole movie is a fan fiction that is so innaccurate that it is pointless to even mention specific details
wait what? I'm so confused right now:
"Macrinus' life inspired Russell Crowe's character Maximus Decimus Meridius in the 2000 feature film Gladiator.[8] Marcus Nonius Macrinus and the fictitious Maximus Decimus Meridius are placed within the same time period. Further, both Marcus and the fictitious Maximus are liked and well known by Marcus Aurelius. However, Marcus Nonius Macrinus went on to enjoy a successful career and died a wealthy man. In contrast, the character Maximus Decimus Meridius loses his family and is sold into slavery.
I for one cant wait. It's a fantasy esque film just set in ancient Rome. Can't treat it like a historical film like Napoloen was meant to be (and terrible).
Denzel looks like he’s playing in Training Day II. This looks unwatchable.
No one’s asking you to watch it
How is he playing trying day two ?
@@devongardner2928 yeah- and few others will either. This is a financial catastrophe
@@devongardner2928pretty sure the studio is.
@@devongardner2928 He's allowed to have an opinion. It does look unwatchable.
Best reaction, glad you touched base in the beginning on the possible spiritual cameo of russel crowe
I'm surprised you brought up the helmet as being a bit artistic. When I watched I was happy to see they actually used a design taken from history. The pompeii museum has an example that looks nearly identical that was excavated from that city, and numerous depictions from the empire's own timeframe show gladiators decked out with such wide-brimmed and screened helmets.
EDIT: in retrospect, the helmets worn in the first film were almost entirely fictional (Maximus' helmet from the 'Carthage fight', the 'boar' helmet the guy who gets decapitated in Zucchabar...)
yeah, that helmet seems to just be the pompeii one, its the most accurate thing in the trailer. Im not really sure what reel history is talking about here, it kinda undermines his credibility tbh.
@@gullyfeather4330 I guess he's just not really up to speed on Roman/classical stuff. He's very good with American History.
@@4rnnr_as yeah, makes sense. To be fair, its also sometimes difficult to remember stuff off the cuff as you're speaking
A lot of the armour and weapons displayed in the trailer are from medieval period and they mixed up the two emperors, i'm not sure what they were thinking when they included the Chaos Juggernaut. Sure exotic animals were used in the arena, but this is just silly. Although i love Denzel Washingtons movies, he does not seem to be the best pick for a historical movie, especially considered that the person he portrays was of north African descent and that Algerian sounds like he grew up in Bronx. We also wen't from an epic Hans Zimmer score, to whatever this was. If it does great in the box office, it will be because of the fantastic movie that came before it.
Paul Mescal played Lucius in the 2000s "Gladiator" didnt he right? so there is he & Connie Neilsen that are the two from the first Movie, though Paul is not the Emperor s nephew & plays Warrior whom fought Rome & whom was captured & became a Gladiator I assume. Also Pedro Pascal is playing a guy whom apprently served with Maximus but I dunno how or why, still pretty cool stuff.
Definitely don’t want force ghost Russel Crowe. A dream sequence or a flashback maybe but nothing corny just for fan service. It would be cool if they acknowledged some real history too. That’s one of the things that the first film at least tried to do. PS Are they going to make Braveheart 2 now? Lol. Great video!
We want "Glory 2," because it was only half the story/war!
I feel the need to repeat that this is in fact historical fiction, not an attempt at a historical figure or event…
A lot of people don't know that.
Well there are the limitations to which you can stretch history, it is a HISTORICAL fiction after all. So once Rome starts to look feel and specifically talk like post 2015 USA, you know you've stretched it a bit toi far and it becomes fiction with weirdly familiar costumes.
Oooh boy, another Ridley Scott movie that throws history out the fucking window!
Unless it has Steve Reeves in it it isn't a real sandal and toga movie.
It won't be historically correct, but it'll show a bit of the daily life of the Roman Empire. I wonder if they're going to show the beginnings of the Crisis of the Third Century.
Marcus Opellius Macrinus is played by whom? Diverse? Are you saying this guy was black. Cmon now. Reel History?
Perhaps the great presenter could use the bigger window to show scenes from the movies and the smaller one for himself?
Ridley being dismissive of historians gives life lol.
Keep em coming!!
Cheers!
Good writing is what I crave. Not a spectacle.
i do like that the plot can involve again actual historical figures - of course they will all be greatly fictionalised, but fortunately the real life characters have enough luridness to them to make it fit
The original film was a new take on the old sword-and-sandal type film of the 50s/60s. Not sure the impact of a re-run of the same plot will be quite as popular at the box office.
I am looking forward to the movie!
I must go and see this film. I loved the first one.
I think you're being quite a bit too generous with this.
That was a great point at the end it also comes out election month 😮
"History vs Hollywood" is kind of open frontal warfare when Ridley Scott makes an epic. I wish he would just try a LITTLE to do something historical and not just echo the idea that 'it's not important & audiences aren't smart enough'.
I'm with you. Ironically Scott made arguably the most accurate historical film (the Duelists) in the beginning of his career. He has zero dignity nowadays
@@GabrielSanchez-ge1bs Duelists is amazing BTW. I like that kind of historical fiction because it's not focusing on the major power players of the day. It's Napoleon and Wellington chasing each other through the snow. That's the movie old Ridley would've made. This is just 2 guys of little consequence and the fascinating tale of the resilience of hatred. One of his best movies.
To be honest I'm kinda low-key looking forward to watching this movie besides the music they used for the trailer
How is that Caracalla lol
Never based on real historical events, just inspired by the story and culture
Modern roman movies are always turned into a semi USA with there fight against slavery. Like most people back than where fine with it but they often oromot it as the majority weren't alright with it😅 I mean ypu could put it maybe in a Spartacus movie (that hopefully would be better than the Show) but in this times of the empire. I don't know. It's just feel often not like rome but like what would be if there were a modern american 2000 years back😅.
TOTALLY boycotting the entire entertainment and gaming scene for the next decade until all this wokeness is long gone, hitting up the back catalogue till then.
You have got to do a reaction for Oversimplified videos because they're very funny.
Great Pod
Pedro Pascal and Denzel?
I'm in. Just for the spectacle.
Paul Mescal is also one of the best actors out rn and has been smart with the roles he chooses which gets my hopes up for this movie even higher still skeptical of course though
You mean the woke circus
@@Cormano980 huh
Have you guys ever checked out the band Sabaton that does all songs about history.
We have heard some songs!
3:05 bro. only now realized, nobody cares about that Colosseum. that's why Gladiator will be timeless.
I thought the thumb nail read “Rome must fail!”
That applies too!
Napoleon was kinda dumb, but The Last Duel was absolutely fantastic. Best movie he's done in many, many years.
You look like you're having a migraine in video picture. =/
When you said the original came out 'a quarter of a century ago', i couldn't help feeling like Private Ryan going from younger to old man at the end of his movie. =P
Watched your review on Gladiator a couple of months ago and was so excited when I saw that released a review for the new trailer! Keep up the great work!!!
Thanks, friend.
Besides Lucilla being dead for well over 30-40 years at this point(they screwed the history up in the first movie) it looks like a couple hours of good old fashion Roman debauchery and slaughter. 😉
I’m really down on Scott after that ridiculous helmet in the last duel and especially after Josephine… err I mean napoleon
The Last Duel was otherwise great--and fairly accurate!
what took them so long to make 2nd gladiator? generation today probably don't know there was 1st gladiator.
I wonder if the people who make these trailers know something that we don't. Are there actually people out there who wouldn't have watched this movie just because the trailer didn't include a terribly inserted rap song?
Historians are pretty divided on what did and didnt happen in The Colusseum. So of course there will be artistic license. I'm interested in the real history of the ruling brothers.
Its still debated whether the romans ever flooded the arena for recreating naval battles.
3:44 those two shots of the main character saying "Is this how Rome treats its heroes" and Denzel shooting an arrow I garentee that's the ending with the first being after the main character kills Pascal and the second is Denzel shooting the Emporer.
I didn’t even finish Napoleon because it was pretty boring honestly
Classical World History does not record the two Roman co-emperors, Caracalla and Geta, as being effete men sporting makeup and face blush like Japanese Kabuki actors. Surviving statue busts of Caracalla depict a scowling, brutish, almost thuggish man, far from being effeminate. It's harder with Geta. After Caracalla arranged for the liquidation of his disliked younger brother, Geta (the sentiment was mutual), Caracalla had all images of Geta defaced, destroyed or eliminated. Thus historians don't know what Geta looked like. We can guess it wasn't like that shown in the movie. Their father, the renown ruthless but successful emperor Septimius Severus was a thorough military man who imposed military life on his two, quarreling sons, taking both with him to his Caledonian (Scottish) campaigns in Britannia, to remove them from the impious, luxurious, carnal pleasures of Rome.
Denzel shows his range 🤣 What a joke.
4:04 now you already know who won the fight. lol
That’s a different guy he decapitates. Paler than Pedro with a longer, lighter beard.
Looks like it’s going to be a good watch,But Denzel Washington in the movie is not for me.
The trailer is suggesting that Lucius lived in Numidia, and then Rome invaded and killed his family, prompting the rest of the story. Numidia had already been a Roman province for a couple hundred years. I can't find any documented conflicts in North Africa in the 3rd century, let alone during the reign of Geta/Caracalla or a massive amphibious invasion as depicted. Caracalla and Macrinus did invade Parthia, so I don't understand why they didn't use that for Lucius' backstory instead of Numidia.
I don't mind artistic license with Lucius and Lucilla being alive, but anachronistic wars is too much for me. Maybe the trailer is misrepresenting the actual plot.
Caracalla *did* unleash a massacre in Alexandria- but it was after [HISTORICAL SPOILER] he killed his brother (they were only co-emperors for a brief time in 211, after their father's death) - I, too, have nothing against Lucius still being alive- as I assumed the film-Lucius was an amalgam- because technically speaking, a son of Lucilla's did live into the reign of Caracalla- she had two; I figured they were using the name of the first, but the lifespan of the second- but I was also hoping for a different movie than the one we _appear_ to be getting...
It's made for americans, they believe Star Wars is a real historical event
Scorsese' films have to be treated as pure fiction, or the historical inacuracies` can drive you mad.
Scorsese?!
@@afroahmed3989 I just watched a video on him. LOL I meant Scott. Thx for the reply.
why is a contemporary song playing in a roman movie
They have sharks in the colosseum. Who gives a fuck, it's a movie
It’s not playing “in” the movie or have you seen it before anyone else? This is a trailer. They even had a Kid Rock playing over a trailer for the first movie.
It will definitely be entertaining....but not good
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!