History Professor Reacts to "Gladiator II" Trailer

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  • History professor Jared Frederick offers his initial thoughts on Ridley Scott's latest historical epic, "Gladiator II." While the film's allegiance to the historical record is dubious from the get-go, how might this new movie compare cinematically to the original? Also, be sure to watch our full historical breakdown of 2000's "Gladiator" here: Part I: • History Professor Brea...
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  • @ReelHistory
    @ReelHistory  Місяць тому +6

    Also, be sure to watch our full historical breakdown of 2000's "Gladiator" here:
    Part I: ua-cam.com/video/Mk6hxtOAgMk/v-deo.html
    Part II: ua-cam.com/video/5C03K5mI9VM/v-deo.html

  • @DrTIPUSUK
    @DrTIPUSUK 26 днів тому +14

    A sequel nobody asked for

  • @wouters1180
    @wouters1180 Місяць тому +78

    To be fair, Commodus also didn't die like he did in the original, so Lucius' mother showing up here is not a big surprise. They needed a familiar face from the original to create a visual connection. Most other actors are new, after all.

    • @Jeffro5564
      @Jeffro5564 Місяць тому +12

      This sequel looks crap

    • @TheUnalteredMyth
      @TheUnalteredMyth Місяць тому +6

      @@Jeffro5564Then it looks like great crap

    • @Ghost-of-a-man
      @Ghost-of-a-man Місяць тому +6

      They should have brought back Djimon Honsou and Tommy Flanagan also

    • @seanbinkley7363
      @seanbinkley7363 Місяць тому +6

      @@Jeffro5564 Maybe but I think the point remains that if we're going to focus on historical accuracy, it's important to remember that the first Gladiator wasn't very accurate either in a lot of ways. And hey, that's fine it's still a kickass movie.

    • @knowledgewizdom3234
      @knowledgewizdom3234 29 днів тому

      Big brain😮

  • @TheRoswellCode
    @TheRoswellCode 20 днів тому +10

    THIS IS IN REVERSE ORDER OF HISTORY. The first film had trapdoors under the Colosseum's arena, while the sequel shows mock sea battles. The mock sea battles happened FIRST, then, as soon as they started digging under the arena to make tunnels, they could NO LONGER have them.

    • @Broken_robot1986
      @Broken_robot1986 15 днів тому

      Keep telling yourself that

    • @TheRoswellCode
      @TheRoswellCode 15 днів тому

      @@Broken_robot1986 No, I might consider them filling the tunnels with water and rotting the wood and ropes that operated the trapdoors :)

    • @abc-uo7pc
      @abc-uo7pc 5 днів тому

      In the trailer Lucius mother gives away “maximus ring”. And Lucius is apparently a gladiator all grown up. So this isn’t reverse order of history. I may not be entirely sure about the plot but it’s weird and it reeks of garbage.

    • @TheRoswellCode
      @TheRoswellCode 4 дні тому

      @@abc-uo7pc The second film is meant to be a sequel, but it is not historically accurate. In fiction you can make up the rules, like in Starwars for example.

    • @mecampbell30
      @mecampbell30 3 години тому

      @@abc-uo7pc Reading comprehension is essential bro.

  • @qbertq1
    @qbertq1 Місяць тому +34

    Will there be lots of wheat petting? That's what we really want to see.

    • @ReelHistory
      @ReelHistory  Місяць тому +3

      Ha ha. Wheat is actually very symbolically in the context of Ancient Rome.

    • @TheMightyCrucibleKnight184
      @TheMightyCrucibleKnight184 29 днів тому +1

      Oh I hope there is wheat petting, it feels ethereal.

    • @VaughanVanDyk
      @VaughanVanDyk 27 днів тому

      "There's some goooood barley..."

  • @ryan__5661
    @ryan__5661 23 дні тому +5

    Didn’t Lucius know his mother in the first movie. He was like 10 so even if he was shipped off after first movie how would he forget her?

  • @DrTIPUSUK
    @DrTIPUSUK 26 днів тому +24

    I did not realize the Algerian accent sounds just like Brooklyn, New York accent

    • @SamsonTheBlaster
      @SamsonTheBlaster 25 днів тому +15

      I did not realize the Roman accent sounds just like a British accent.

    • @OcarinaSapphr-
      @OcarinaSapphr- 24 дні тому +1

      @@SamsonTheBlaster
      It's been shorthand for decades- no one actually believes Romans were speaking English - our brains are meant to gloss over it, to get immersed in the story...

    • @bsaneil
      @bsaneil 19 днів тому +2

      ...or that a character of mixed Berber and Italian provincial descent resembles someone from sub - Saharan Africa.

    • @magnuskallas
      @magnuskallas 14 днів тому

      I didn't know Rome turned to Brooklyn Zoo.

    • @mecampbell30
      @mecampbell30 2 години тому

      @@bsaneil Most African-Americans whose families can be traced to the founding have a European ancestor (25 to 30% European origin). Denzel looks very different from a sub-saharan African of the time.

  • @CoffeeFiend1
    @CoffeeFiend1 28 днів тому +37

    Denzel is a bit like Sean Connery in that he always plays himself. He's a Scottish Englishman, a Scottish American, a Scottish Russian submarine commander.

    • @GabrielSanchez-ge1bs
      @GabrielSanchez-ge1bs 26 днів тому +8

      Exactly right. And if his character is really an Algerian he should have been played by another actor. Woke bullshit

    • @CoffeeFiend1
      @CoffeeFiend1 26 днів тому +3

      ​@@GabrielSanchez-ge1bs See Juba made sense. So much sense in fact that people that have watched the original multiple times just remember his character, it was Maximus, Juba and Hagen, the amount of people I've seen recently that have been like "oh yeah there was Juba!" like they knew there was Juba.... But they remember Juba as Juba not as a black pov character. There wasn't any inconsistent logic or immersion breaking with Juba.
      Denzel is a lot more ambiguous though... His skin tone is too dark and he's obviously not making any attempts with accents or mannerisms here, he's just an American New Yorker.
      Race swapping isn't like an absolute thing people can be reasonable and look at it on a colour gradient/ethnic makeup basis (this is actually why Pedro Pascal pulls off so many different native nationalities convincingly in tv and cinema) but with Denzel he is just a bit too dark for native Algerian (taking your word on that as I've not looked up this Macrinus character myself). I'd actually be alright with it to be honest if he at least tried a bit with the accent and mannerisms to smooth it out, but god damn he just looks like he's playing Denzel Washington.

    • @Amenkad
      @Amenkad 25 днів тому +2

      @@GabrielSanchez-ge1bs thank you very much for telling the truth, an algerian berber

    • @davidreece5867
      @davidreece5867 21 день тому +1

      @@Amenkadhe’s not telling the truth though. The name Berber was coined by the Greeks for all people from North Africa who were diverse in ethnicity, including black.

    • @Amenkad
      @Amenkad 21 день тому +3

      @@davidreece5867 the North is not and was not black. You Can find métis berbers in désert zones, middle age islam expansion

  • @tigqc
    @tigqc Місяць тому +54

    The biggest surprise for me was the absence of the first film's secret sauce: Hans Zimmer.

    • @ChienaAvtzon
      @ChienaAvtzon Місяць тому +16

      Hans Zimmer is not composing the score for this trainwreck of a movie.

    • @shadowfax-p3y
      @shadowfax-p3y Місяць тому +1

      ​@@ChienaAvtzon 💯

    • @thunderboltproductionsshpk
      @thunderboltproductionsshpk Місяць тому +6

      ​@@ChienaAvtzonno indeed, cause nowadays he's useless and what was great about Gladiator was actually composed by Lisa Gerard and not by zimmer 😂 dude doesn't even know how to create "melodies" anymore, everything is just some blllaaaarrr blllurmmm BS. Fortunately this one is scored by Harry Gregson Williams who already worked with Ridley in the past.

    • @calebisdisposable
      @calebisdisposable 29 днів тому

      @@ChienaAvtzonLooks better than the OG

  • @bradcouch457
    @bradcouch457 Місяць тому +22

    I first learned about the Romans flooding the arena to stage naval battles when I watched Nick Hodges' review of the first movie on History Buffs and my first thought was "Now that's something that needs to be in the sequel." So I'm very excited to see it now.

    • @ReelHistory
      @ReelHistory  Місяць тому +1

      It's a very cool aspect.

    • @ThutUPB
      @ThutUPB 29 днів тому +3

      @@ReelHistory yeah but those sharks in the water though... omg. Not to mention that naval invasion. What coastal city in the Mediterranean would the Romans want to conquer in the bloody 210s??

    • @bantharadio8960
      @bantharadio8960 29 днів тому +3

      @@ThutUPBthey were crocodiles not sharks, that I would believe

    • @bria78
      @bria78 19 днів тому +1

      However, it is written in ancient chronicles that one time they flooded one amphitheatre AND released sharks. It was not the Colosseum though.

  • @martinB68
    @martinB68 22 дні тому +4

    Original film was fantastic ,now we have a box ticking sequal with Rap music. No suprise nowdays.

  • @Sd-cl6of
    @Sd-cl6of Місяць тому +12

    I'm afraid you can't replace Russel Crowe (Maximus) and that's the problem. No matter how good the movie.

    • @finger3306
      @finger3306 Місяць тому +6

      Well I mean you can, it's not like he's even a historical person 😂

    • @ALT3REDB3AST
      @ALT3REDB3AST 25 днів тому

      Yeah, they said that about 300 too with Leonidas. But Themistocles was pretty damn cool in 300 Rise.

    • @flurrystrads-howard5310
      @flurrystrads-howard5310 21 день тому

      Especially when he said about 3000 times he had nothing to do with the film .. He is DEAD .. WELL HIS CHARACTER

  • @ryublade8184
    @ryublade8184 Місяць тому +11

    these movies arnt historical movies they are action adventure epics set in that time period. Movie looks great.

  • @keto8354
    @keto8354 Місяць тому +16

    denzel looks like he didn't age after his stint with Taking of Pelham One Two Three.

    • @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
      @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control 29 днів тому +3

      He turns SEVENTY this year lol. He's older than my dad by like 3 months. My dad is starting to look like he drank from the wrong Grail cup.

    • @natalja6680
      @natalja6680 24 дні тому

      It is not nice to say such things about your dad.

  • @gloriathomas3245
    @gloriathomas3245 27 днів тому +4

    As someone who is both a history and film buff I think we need to redefine the term "historical accuracy". Films like Kingdom Of Heaven, U-571, 1917, War Horse or Fury might be fictional in terms of actual events but I do consider them historically accurate because they properly capture the atmosphere of the subject matter spot on. In fact the film Fury touches on a fark piece WW2 not often talked, that being the many war crimes carried by allies troops.

  • @Ghost-of-a-man
    @Ghost-of-a-man Місяць тому +14

    I need to know how they waterproofed the coliseum floor to stop the underground network getting flooded when filling it with water.

    • @anthonyskrobul3726
      @anthonyskrobul3726 27 днів тому +3

      I don't believe the famous Coliseum was ever flooded for mock naval battles. I remember a video I saw that mentioned this happened in a different coliseum (designed for the purpose) in Rome.

    • @jaywatson2906
      @jaywatson2906 26 днів тому +1

      Permaseal

    • @Mr_Dumpty
      @Mr_Dumpty 25 днів тому

      I believe it's a model colosseum that they built in Malta specifically for each film (re-built for the sequel).

    • @Ghost-of-a-man
      @Ghost-of-a-man 25 днів тому +2

      @@Mr_Dumpty my point was how did they do it 2000 years ago in reality? If they actually did.

    • @Mr_Dumpty
      @Mr_Dumpty 25 днів тому

      @@Ghost-of-a-man Ah, I misunderstood.

  • @leftymcnally6913
    @leftymcnally6913 Місяць тому +12

    Wasn't the flooding ended when they built the Hypogeum...which was in the first movie?

    • @Seansds
      @Seansds Місяць тому +2

      That was my first thought... but I'm sure they added it for "cool" factor. Technically they think it may have been flooded for naval battles but I don't think that it was ever confirmed that it actually happened.

    • @brandonpeters1618
      @brandonpeters1618 Місяць тому +4

      @@Seansds
      It is confirmed

    • @Gr8dane85
      @Gr8dane85 25 днів тому +3

      Yes, flooding of the arena was done many years before this movie is set to take place.

  • @rogue_newtype4364
    @rogue_newtype4364 Місяць тому +7

    Dude the sound track they chose for this trailer make it cheap and don’t fit the period

    • @ReelHistory
      @ReelHistory  Місяць тому +1

      Par for the course in trailers these days.

  • @Brook11223
    @Brook11223 Місяць тому +6

    Strength and Honor.
    On my command unleash hell.
    My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius.
    I will have my revenge.
    Also I believe Djimon Hounsou will appear in this film as a way to anchor the story just as Connie Nielsen to furher push Lucius' journey.

  • @Giovanni_Gabrielli
    @Giovanni_Gabrielli 26 днів тому +3

    And actually I'm not even finished. When The Gladiator came out, here in Rome EVERY SINGLE ROMAN was so invested, I was 10 at the time, Russell Crowe was actually nominated "Ambassador of Rome in the World" by the Mayor of Rome recently.... and he is active too. He said he feels like the uncle of all romans and he's not wrong, people deified him, you can't imagine what the hell of a HUGE thing that film was. I was strolling around where Julius Caesar was slain... I was like "...whatever...". Because I am used to it, that's it. A.S. Roma Football Club even had a limited edition of the DVD.... The point is, this is not going to go well, the expectations are too high as a sequel of a film that was THAT big here. The last time I've been at the Colosseum was for May the 4th be with you (Star Wars) and I thought the idea was cool, you can find articles and pics online. When Crowe left after being nominated ambassador, he said "Sono sempre al servizio di Roma." (I am always at the service of Rome) causing the entire city to chant his name to the airport. Sorry Scott, you cannot top that.

  • @andreraymond6860
    @andreraymond6860 Місяць тому +22

    The most compelling parts of the Trailer are veiled in ambiguity. Macrinus is never mentionned by name. The two creature emperors are Caracala and Geta, brothers who hated each other with a passion. They were the sons of Septimius Severus Caracala ended up assassinating his brother and then in turn being killed by Macrinus in the end. It would seem that Lucius (the boy from Gladiator) will be used as a pawn somehow by Macrinus to bring about the destruction of the brothers. The start of the movie would be set about 15 years after the events of the first movie. I was VERY skeptical about this movie when I heard it had been greenlit. Now my curiosity is peaked. I suspect the exchange 'What can I give you?' 'All Rome's armies' 'Too much' 'A generalship' comes at the end of the film when Macrinus ascends to the title of Emperor having triumphed.

    • @tykohn
      @tykohn Місяць тому +6

      I don’t think he says “a generalship”. I think when he says the Roman armies are too much, he says “that general will do” and it cuts to Pedro Pascal, who is being set up as his rival. He didn’t want command of the armies, he wanted to destroy them.

  • @ibematos
    @ibematos Місяць тому +7

    So Romans had the ability to flood the arena with salt water and were able to transport sharks....

    • @eclecticx
      @eclecticx Місяць тому +4

      Flood the arena, yes. Transport sharks? No.

    • @ibematos
      @ibematos Місяць тому +8

      @@eclecticx I knew they flooded arena with water but not salt water.

    • @eclecticx
      @eclecticx Місяць тому

      @@ibematos Ah, gotchya. Missed that. :)

  • @tysonas1
    @tysonas1 Місяць тому +9

    The thing with Scott’s Napoleon is he’s British and I knew he wouldn’t show him in a good light and more than a drop of negativity.
    Napoleon needs to be both produced and directed by people who have the financial and creative wherewithal to do justice to a person who has a period of History named for him

    • @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
      @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control 29 днів тому

      I think you need an American director for a Napoleon movie so it's not just a hit piece or hagiography like if the English or French make it.

  • @Stormbringer2012
    @Stormbringer2012 27 днів тому +4

    I liked the part where a gladiator rode that T-rex

  • @Giovanni_Gabrielli
    @Giovanni_Gabrielli 28 днів тому +7

    "interesting soundrack selection" is a very agreeable periphrasis Professor, as a roman myself. Quo usque tandem, Scott abuteris patientia nostra??? Quamdiu etiam furor iste tuus nos eludet? Quem ad finem sese effrenata iactabit audacia???

  • @EddieHenderson92
    @EddieHenderson92 Місяць тому +21

    YEAH YO, Gladiators in the mother fu@king house, bring the swords and let's have a rap battle.

  • @chaotictattoo
    @chaotictattoo Місяць тому +6

    If this is anything even close to how napoleon was it will be the exact reason why movie trailers are better than the actual movie itself.
    Napoleon was a dumpster fire and seems like the best this movie can be is a good action movie.

  • @RHR1991
    @RHR1991 Місяць тому +11

    Denzel plays Macrinus according to IMDB, so the movie has 3 emperors. Also, I am excited to see a Naumachia recreated.

    • @ReelHistory
      @ReelHistory  Місяць тому +1

      Didn't want to spoil it for viewers! ;-)

    • @Kruhn
      @Kruhn 29 днів тому

      So we're at the cusp of the Crisis of The Third Century.

    • @interdimensionalsteve8172
      @interdimensionalsteve8172 29 днів тому +1

      Was he black...? I know there were black emperors, but did they change this guy to fit the wonderful Denzel?

    • @RHR1991
      @RHR1991 29 днів тому +4

      @@interdimensionalsteve8172 he was Berber from Algeria, so I guess he had a dark skin but from an ethnic point of view someone like Tahar Rahim would have been a more accurate casting choice.

    • @rishavkumar1250
      @rishavkumar1250 29 днів тому

      ​@@interdimensionalsteve8172 black emperors like Septimius Severus ?

  • @sickk0073
    @sickk0073 Місяць тому +5

    "Intersting soundtrack selection..." Nothing goes better with ancient Rome then Jay Z 😂

    • @devongardner2928
      @devongardner2928 Місяць тому

      300 rise of empire had war pigs for the trailer a rock song to a Ancient Greece movie you gonna bitch about that

  • @larsickenroth7169
    @larsickenroth7169 Місяць тому +3

    Interesting, that Rhino-rider caught my attention as well: I think the helmet very much resembles the Gérôme-painting from 1872 (‘Pollice Verso’).
    Which is indeed a fictionalized and idealized version of Greek and Roman history, dating right back to it’s introduction by JJ Winckelmann in the 18th century.

  • @Tsukonin
    @Tsukonin 26 днів тому +7

    Blackwashing again though for Macrinus and too many blacks ("ethiopians") which were not a common sight in the Roman Empire. Even Septimius Severus was shocked at the sight of an Ethiopian guard at the Hadrian wall and as a result, the Emperor thought it was a bad omen. And the way they portray Caracalla and Geta as crazy sissies with makeup is ridiculous and nothing like what they were (even phenotypically).

  • @jaygee4411
    @jaygee4411 Місяць тому +8

    Ridley Scott missed an opportunity here, as like Macrinus was, Septimius Severus was also a North African/Berber + Italic Roman, and his wife was Syrian I believe. Caracalla and Geta should reflect that mix, but oh well. I was thinking if anything Denzel should have been Septimius Severus instead.

    • @ReelHistory
      @ReelHistory  Місяць тому +1

      Great ideas!

    • @HICHAM-73
      @HICHAM-73 29 днів тому +7

      Septimus severus and Macrinus was from north Africa. They was Mediterraneans like Egyptian Greek and Italian. Not black .

    • @jaygee4411
      @jaygee4411 29 днів тому +3

      @@HICHAM-73 Berbers have a range of looks from light skinned to dark-skinned like their North Central African neighbors, like the Tuareg. The truest Egyptians are the reddish brown to dark brown skinned ones in middle and southern Egypt. So I'll stick with what I said.

    • @HICHAM-73
      @HICHAM-73 29 днів тому +5

      @@jaygee4411
      The berber kingdom who was in relation with Roman empire was named ( Numidia ) its Mediterranean and this people was and are white even ther kings are described in roman historical books as white ..( massinissa git blue eyes ) nothing to do with touareg and there was no relation between touareg and Roman.

    • @Tsukonin
      @Tsukonin 26 днів тому +4

      @@jaygee4411 No. Black people start to appear en masse with the islamic slave trade. So no, North Africa was very homogeneous and looked like what most Berbers look like to this day: light-skinned and mediterranean/MENA-looking. We have plenty of busts and depictions of the Severan dynasty as well as of the inhabitants of North Africa: they looked nothing like Denzel Washington.

  • @Bynggo
    @Bynggo 17 днів тому +1

    Thank you for referring to the time as AD.

  • @justlivelife9512
    @justlivelife9512 Місяць тому +11

    Macrinus was not black though

    • @ReelHistory
      @ReelHistory  29 днів тому +5

      We should have elaborated more. We merely pointed out the fact that the empire was more diverse than typical Hollywood has acknowledged.

    • @frankyyaggabot6222
      @frankyyaggabot6222 28 днів тому

      @@ReelHistory Darker complexion (your answer elsewhere) and diverse is a cop-out (do you have to perpetuate little lies to survive amongst modern academics?). North Africans were not black in Roman times and few are now. You might be interested to know that from a genetic stand-point Berbers/Amazigh are more DNA adjacent to Anglo-Saxons than they are to Bantu/Niger Congo (black) persons in West Africa. The black-ificaion of History (amongst Britons, Nordics, Greeks, Egyptians, ... ) is something your profession in modern times seems to lack the balls to address (and in actual fact some 'Historians' have been caught out actually promulgating these falsehoods). What hope is there for modern Historians when they cannot even get the superficial correct?

    • @eastsidemuu
      @eastsidemuu 28 днів тому

      He was tho.. he was berber.. berbers where blk befor European slave trade, roman conquest, germanic invasion, arsb conquests, french conquest.. peoples stock change just like america, Australia exc

    • @ReelHistory
      @ReelHistory  27 днів тому +1

      @@frankyyaggabot6222, no need to be rude about it. I'm not lying about anything, though I will concede I could have worded that part better.

    • @davidreece5867
      @davidreece5867 21 день тому

      @@frankyyaggabot6222Berbers, or North Africans were not one ethnicity, it was diverse. You’re doing the same thing you’re accusing the creator of.

  • @thelizardkingdc
    @thelizardkingdc 27 днів тому

    Nice engagement for the channel, well deserved Prof! Looking forward to this, having not seen the trailer yet. The original wasn’t exactly historically accurate so we’ll see how it goes….

  • @ChristinaDiCali
    @ChristinaDiCali 23 дні тому

    I appreciate the additional historical info you added to this story.

  • @Irish37
    @Irish37 Місяць тому +2

    At this point, fans of "Gladiator" are used to a mix of historical accuracy and wild inaccuracy. But it's worth pointing out that the historical Macrinus never visited the city of Rome even once after becoming emperor. The inaccuracies of the first film didn't spoil my enjoyment of it. I don't know how many inaccuracies I'll be able to bear in the new film.

  • @reesepacker7983
    @reesepacker7983 Місяць тому +10

    The Rhino scene was originally supposed to happen in the first film ..Ridley Scott had it story boarded and scripted but for whatever reason was not filmed ....not to mention the brief christians waiting to be set upon by lions which was deleted scene

    • @jovanjorgovan23
      @jovanjorgovan23 29 днів тому +3

      Good that it didn't back then. Looks horribly video game-ish and over the top, but not in a good way

    • @reesepacker7983
      @reesepacker7983 27 днів тому

      @@jovanjorgovan23 i agree.all that first 2000's decade CGI has aged horribly

    • @jovanjorgovan23
      @jovanjorgovan23 27 днів тому

      @@reesepacker7983 20 years later the only good CGI is the one used for the out of focus background stuff. And that's all it ever should be used for. Can't do it for real - don't.

  • @tylerdordon99
    @tylerdordon99 Місяць тому +7

    Honestly the lead actor feels uncharismatic and his performance looks flat.

  • @lethyguaimare
    @lethyguaimare Місяць тому +4

    So the naval battle in the coliseum arena was an actual thing that happened? Because that and the rhino made me feel like it was the Roman Empire in the Hunger Games/Fast and Furious universe rather than our own 😅

    • @ReelHistory
      @ReelHistory  Місяць тому +5

      Yes, they had boats floating around in there, though they were usually reenactments and not actual combat.

    • @susah135
      @susah135 28 днів тому +1

      You know what else would feel not real in ancient Rome? Commercials in colosseum! Yes, they really advertised new businesses like new bakers in town, or new wineries etc. And Ridley Scott didn't put that in Gladiator (2000) because the audience would say it was fake. Well, sometimes reality is stranger than fiction.

    • @GabrielSanchez-ge1bs
      @GabrielSanchez-ge1bs 26 днів тому +3

      Naval battles did happen but not sure about a mounted rhino. Seems to be b.s.

  • @nicholasmaione5694
    @nicholasmaione5694 26 днів тому +1

    I question the success when game of thrones and Vikings and all sorts of fantasy historical films are done so well on standard tv series. Will people show up to the theater for this?

  • @cassardean
    @cassardean Місяць тому +9

    Can’t believe the first film is a quarter of a century old!! Looking forward to the sequel - filmed in my home country of Malta like the first film.

  • @lumberpilot
    @lumberpilot 23 дні тому +1

    Algerians were Berbers, not sub-Sahara. I had the same problem with Othello when Lawrence Fishburn played him. It changed the whole nuance of the pivotal conflict.

    • @davidreece5867
      @davidreece5867 21 день тому +1

      Many Berbers were black.

    • @bobwilson2297
      @bobwilson2297 21 день тому +3

      Berbers are not black at all, only if you say that Portuguese are black because there is some population in their old empire like Brésil who are blacks. Berbers are white from Africa, and in this time more than ever. If you want see a Berbers from "mauretanie cesarienne", the province of macrinus played by Denzel Washington, look at some football players like zidane or benzema. In Algeria there is less than 3% of population who are black or mixed and they live in the far south region not in the north.

    • @mohamedaliexpress1307
      @mohamedaliexpress1307 18 днів тому

      @@davidreece5867 Berbers never were blacks. They are mediterranean caucasoids. The blacks in nowadays North Africa are descendent from slaves. It's like to say black Americans are anglo-saxons.

    • @HejMeeeen
      @HejMeeeen 15 днів тому

      @@bobwilson2297 many berbers was black...... many tribes ara black in roman time..... ppl from sahara.....

    • @HejMeeeen
      @HejMeeeen 15 днів тому

      yeah and Emperor look like irish guy..... But he born in Syria......

  • @biffstrong1079
    @biffstrong1079 21 день тому +1

    Macrinus was not a slave. He was the first non senator to become an emperor. He was a Berber and an Equestrian.
    They stopped using the Coliseum for sea battles by the early 100's .
    Rhino's were killed in the coliseum but probably not ridden.
    Lucilla was killed by Commodus early in his rein.

  • @ljgaming639
    @ljgaming639 4 дні тому

    I'm surprised Ridley Scott didn't include Julius Caesar battling Napoleon in Alaska.

  • @gettysburgguy
    @gettysburgguy Місяць тому +1

    Good job team!

  • @HeliodromusScorpio
    @HeliodromusScorpio 29 днів тому +2

    The whole movie is a fan fiction that is so innaccurate that it is pointless to even mention specific details

  • @leoSaunders
    @leoSaunders 27 днів тому +1

    wait what? I'm so confused right now:
    "Macrinus' life inspired Russell Crowe's character Maximus Decimus Meridius in the 2000 feature film Gladiator.[8] Marcus Nonius Macrinus and the fictitious Maximus Decimus Meridius are placed within the same time period. Further, both Marcus and the fictitious Maximus are liked and well known by Marcus Aurelius. However, Marcus Nonius Macrinus went on to enjoy a successful career and died a wealthy man. In contrast, the character Maximus Decimus Meridius loses his family and is sold into slavery.

  • @eddieharr
    @eddieharr 28 днів тому +1

    I for one cant wait. It's a fantasy esque film just set in ancient Rome. Can't treat it like a historical film like Napoloen was meant to be (and terrible).

  • @jake1776
    @jake1776 Місяць тому +14

    Denzel looks like he’s playing in Training Day II. This looks unwatchable.

    • @devongardner2928
      @devongardner2928 Місяць тому +7

      No one’s asking you to watch it

    • @ajpal9618
      @ajpal9618 Місяць тому

      How is he playing trying day two ?

    • @jake1776
      @jake1776 29 днів тому +1

      @@devongardner2928 yeah- and few others will either. This is a financial catastrophe

    • @ScrubbersGhost
      @ScrubbersGhost 27 днів тому +1

      ⁠@@devongardner2928pretty sure the studio is.

    • @smokeycat2011
      @smokeycat2011 26 днів тому +5

      @@devongardner2928 He's allowed to have an opinion. It does look unwatchable.

  • @AliNadem
    @AliNadem 26 днів тому

    Best reaction, glad you touched base in the beginning on the possible spiritual cameo of russel crowe

  • @4rnnr_as
    @4rnnr_as Місяць тому +2

    I'm surprised you brought up the helmet as being a bit artistic. When I watched I was happy to see they actually used a design taken from history. The pompeii museum has an example that looks nearly identical that was excavated from that city, and numerous depictions from the empire's own timeframe show gladiators decked out with such wide-brimmed and screened helmets.
    EDIT: in retrospect, the helmets worn in the first film were almost entirely fictional (Maximus' helmet from the 'Carthage fight', the 'boar' helmet the guy who gets decapitated in Zucchabar...)

    • @gullyfeather4330
      @gullyfeather4330 24 дні тому

      yeah, that helmet seems to just be the pompeii one, its the most accurate thing in the trailer. Im not really sure what reel history is talking about here, it kinda undermines his credibility tbh.

    • @4rnnr_as
      @4rnnr_as 23 дні тому +1

      @@gullyfeather4330 I guess he's just not really up to speed on Roman/classical stuff. He's very good with American History.

    • @gullyfeather4330
      @gullyfeather4330 23 дні тому

      @@4rnnr_as yeah, makes sense. To be fair, its also sometimes difficult to remember stuff off the cuff as you're speaking

  • @Gr8dane85
    @Gr8dane85 25 днів тому +1

    A lot of the armour and weapons displayed in the trailer are from medieval period and they mixed up the two emperors, i'm not sure what they were thinking when they included the Chaos Juggernaut. Sure exotic animals were used in the arena, but this is just silly. Although i love Denzel Washingtons movies, he does not seem to be the best pick for a historical movie, especially considered that the person he portrays was of north African descent and that Algerian sounds like he grew up in Bronx. We also wen't from an epic Hans Zimmer score, to whatever this was. If it does great in the box office, it will be because of the fantastic movie that came before it.

  • @NordicTG
    @NordicTG 19 днів тому

    Paul Mescal played Lucius in the 2000s "Gladiator" didnt he right? so there is he & Connie Neilsen that are the two from the first Movie, though Paul is not the Emperor s nephew & plays Warrior whom fought Rome & whom was captured & became a Gladiator I assume. Also Pedro Pascal is playing a guy whom apprently served with Maximus but I dunno how or why, still pretty cool stuff.

  • @seanohalloran384
    @seanohalloran384 29 днів тому +1

    Definitely don’t want force ghost Russel Crowe. A dream sequence or a flashback maybe but nothing corny just for fan service. It would be cool if they acknowledged some real history too. That’s one of the things that the first film at least tried to do. PS Are they going to make Braveheart 2 now? Lol. Great video!

    • @ReelHistory
      @ReelHistory  29 днів тому

      We want "Glory 2," because it was only half the story/war!

  • @mythwest
    @mythwest Місяць тому +5

    I feel the need to repeat that this is in fact historical fiction, not an attempt at a historical figure or event…

    • @ReelHistory
      @ReelHistory  Місяць тому +2

      A lot of people don't know that.

    • @jovanjorgovan23
      @jovanjorgovan23 29 днів тому +2

      Well there are the limitations to which you can stretch history, it is a HISTORICAL fiction after all. So once Rome starts to look feel and specifically talk like post 2015 USA, you know you've stretched it a bit toi far and it becomes fiction with weirdly familiar costumes.

  • @user-gi8pk9uc7q
    @user-gi8pk9uc7q 12 днів тому

    Oooh boy, another Ridley Scott movie that throws history out the fucking window!

  • @kuvasz5252
    @kuvasz5252 Місяць тому +1

    Unless it has Steve Reeves in it it isn't a real sandal and toga movie.

  • @Kruhn
    @Kruhn 29 днів тому +1

    It won't be historically correct, but it'll show a bit of the daily life of the Roman Empire. I wonder if they're going to show the beginnings of the Crisis of the Third Century.

  • @mike2510
    @mike2510 25 днів тому +2

    Marcus Opellius Macrinus is played by whom? Diverse? Are you saying this guy was black. Cmon now. Reel History?

  • @farjadbabaee547
    @farjadbabaee547 24 дні тому

    Perhaps the great presenter could use the bigger window to show scenes from the movies and the smaller one for himself?

  • @travisspazz1624
    @travisspazz1624 29 днів тому

    Ridley being dismissive of historians gives life lol.
    Keep em coming!!

  • @awesomedayz3465
    @awesomedayz3465 Місяць тому +6

    Good writing is what I crave. Not a spectacle.

  • @divinuminfernum
    @divinuminfernum 29 днів тому

    i do like that the plot can involve again actual historical figures - of course they will all be greatly fictionalised, but fortunately the real life characters have enough luridness to them to make it fit

  • @faeembrugh
    @faeembrugh 29 днів тому

    The original film was a new take on the old sword-and-sandal type film of the 50s/60s. Not sure the impact of a re-run of the same plot will be quite as popular at the box office.

  • @blakerh
    @blakerh Місяць тому

    I am looking forward to the movie!

  • @samanthalewin6210
    @samanthalewin6210 12 днів тому

    I must go and see this film. I loved the first one.

  • @Turambar88
    @Turambar88 25 днів тому +2

    I think you're being quite a bit too generous with this.

  • @TheUnalteredMyth
    @TheUnalteredMyth Місяць тому

    That was a great point at the end it also comes out election month 😮

  • @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
    @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control 29 днів тому +2

    "History vs Hollywood" is kind of open frontal warfare when Ridley Scott makes an epic. I wish he would just try a LITTLE to do something historical and not just echo the idea that 'it's not important & audiences aren't smart enough'.

    • @GabrielSanchez-ge1bs
      @GabrielSanchez-ge1bs 26 днів тому +1

      I'm with you. Ironically Scott made arguably the most accurate historical film (the Duelists) in the beginning of his career. He has zero dignity nowadays

    • @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
      @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control 26 днів тому

      @@GabrielSanchez-ge1bs Duelists is amazing BTW. I like that kind of historical fiction because it's not focusing on the major power players of the day. It's Napoleon and Wellington chasing each other through the snow. That's the movie old Ridley would've made. This is just 2 guys of little consequence and the fascinating tale of the resilience of hatred. One of his best movies.

  • @santiago4654
    @santiago4654 25 днів тому

    To be honest I'm kinda low-key looking forward to watching this movie besides the music they used for the trailer

  • @Insectoid_
    @Insectoid_ 26 днів тому +1

    How is that Caracalla lol

  • @camwchristian
    @camwchristian 29 днів тому

    Never based on real historical events, just inspired by the story and culture

  • @hi23nutzer21
    @hi23nutzer21 28 днів тому +2

    Modern roman movies are always turned into a semi USA with there fight against slavery. Like most people back than where fine with it but they often oromot it as the majority weren't alright with it😅 I mean ypu could put it maybe in a Spartacus movie (that hopefully would be better than the Show) but in this times of the empire. I don't know. It's just feel often not like rome but like what would be if there were a modern american 2000 years back😅.

  • @bettysteve322716
    @bettysteve322716 25 днів тому +4

    TOTALLY boycotting the entire entertainment and gaming scene for the next decade until all this wokeness is long gone, hitting up the back catalogue till then.

  • @IronDragon-2143
    @IronDragon-2143 Місяць тому

    You have got to do a reaction for Oversimplified videos because they're very funny.

  • @Slipthejab152
    @Slipthejab152 27 днів тому

    Great Pod

  • @Emanon...
    @Emanon... Місяць тому +31

    Pedro Pascal and Denzel?
    I'm in. Just for the spectacle.

    • @juicypanda677
      @juicypanda677 28 днів тому

      Paul Mescal is also one of the best actors out rn and has been smart with the roles he chooses which gets my hopes up for this movie even higher still skeptical of course though

    • @Cormano980
      @Cormano980 17 днів тому

      You mean the woke circus

    • @juicypanda677
      @juicypanda677 14 днів тому

      @@Cormano980 huh

  • @user-xf6oj1qb7h
    @user-xf6oj1qb7h 29 днів тому

    Have you guys ever checked out the band Sabaton that does all songs about history.

  • @leoSaunders
    @leoSaunders 29 днів тому

    3:05 bro. only now realized, nobody cares about that Colosseum. that's why Gladiator will be timeless.

  • @Hartinmouston5158
    @Hartinmouston5158 Місяць тому

    I thought the thumb nail read “Rome must fail!”

  • @interdimensionalsteve8172
    @interdimensionalsteve8172 29 днів тому

    Napoleon was kinda dumb, but The Last Duel was absolutely fantastic. Best movie he's done in many, many years.

  • @padawanmage71
    @padawanmage71 Місяць тому

    You look like you're having a migraine in video picture. =/
    When you said the original came out 'a quarter of a century ago', i couldn't help feeling like Private Ryan going from younger to old man at the end of his movie. =P

  • @danielmarquez5498
    @danielmarquez5498 29 днів тому

    Watched your review on Gladiator a couple of months ago and was so excited when I saw that released a review for the new trailer! Keep up the great work!!!

  • @NossCalavera1670
    @NossCalavera1670 Місяць тому +1

    Besides Lucilla being dead for well over 30-40 years at this point(they screwed the history up in the first movie) it looks like a couple hours of good old fashion Roman debauchery and slaughter. 😉

  • @pyatig
    @pyatig 29 днів тому +1

    I’m really down on Scott after that ridiculous helmet in the last duel and especially after Josephine… err I mean napoleon

    • @ReelHistory
      @ReelHistory  29 днів тому

      The Last Duel was otherwise great--and fairly accurate!

  • @user-ze1qo4hh2i
    @user-ze1qo4hh2i 16 днів тому

    what took them so long to make 2nd gladiator? generation today probably don't know there was 1st gladiator.

  • @Lexyboogie
    @Lexyboogie 28 днів тому

    I wonder if the people who make these trailers know something that we don't. Are there actually people out there who wouldn't have watched this movie just because the trailer didn't include a terribly inserted rap song?

  • @jasongoodacre
    @jasongoodacre Місяць тому

    Historians are pretty divided on what did and didnt happen in The Colusseum. So of course there will be artistic license. I'm interested in the real history of the ruling brothers.

  • @andrewdockrill
    @andrewdockrill 29 днів тому +2

    Its still debated whether the romans ever flooded the arena for recreating naval battles.

  • @Bigrago1
    @Bigrago1 Місяць тому +1

    3:44 those two shots of the main character saying "Is this how Rome treats its heroes" and Denzel shooting an arrow I garentee that's the ending with the first being after the main character kills Pascal and the second is Denzel shooting the Emporer.

  • @JacobTemplar
    @JacobTemplar Місяць тому +2

    I didn’t even finish Napoleon because it was pretty boring honestly

  • @jeffyoung60
    @jeffyoung60 14 днів тому

    Classical World History does not record the two Roman co-emperors, Caracalla and Geta, as being effete men sporting makeup and face blush like Japanese Kabuki actors. Surviving statue busts of Caracalla depict a scowling, brutish, almost thuggish man, far from being effeminate. It's harder with Geta. After Caracalla arranged for the liquidation of his disliked younger brother, Geta (the sentiment was mutual), Caracalla had all images of Geta defaced, destroyed or eliminated. Thus historians don't know what Geta looked like. We can guess it wasn't like that shown in the movie. Their father, the renown ruthless but successful emperor Septimius Severus was a thorough military man who imposed military life on his two, quarreling sons, taking both with him to his Caledonian (Scottish) campaigns in Britannia, to remove them from the impious, luxurious, carnal pleasures of Rome.

  • @patron40silver
    @patron40silver 24 дні тому

    Denzel shows his range 🤣 What a joke.

  • @markusdee6136
    @markusdee6136 Місяць тому

    4:04 now you already know who won the fight. lol

    • @tykohn
      @tykohn Місяць тому +1

      That’s a different guy he decapitates. Paler than Pedro with a longer, lighter beard.

  • @Yaketyyak21
    @Yaketyyak21 Місяць тому +1

    Looks like it’s going to be a good watch,But Denzel Washington in the movie is not for me.

  • @randallcooper4399
    @randallcooper4399 Місяць тому +1

    The trailer is suggesting that Lucius lived in Numidia, and then Rome invaded and killed his family, prompting the rest of the story. Numidia had already been a Roman province for a couple hundred years. I can't find any documented conflicts in North Africa in the 3rd century, let alone during the reign of Geta/Caracalla or a massive amphibious invasion as depicted. Caracalla and Macrinus did invade Parthia, so I don't understand why they didn't use that for Lucius' backstory instead of Numidia.
    I don't mind artistic license with Lucius and Lucilla being alive, but anachronistic wars is too much for me. Maybe the trailer is misrepresenting the actual plot.

    • @OcarinaSapphr-
      @OcarinaSapphr- 24 дні тому +2

      Caracalla *did* unleash a massacre in Alexandria- but it was after [HISTORICAL SPOILER] he killed his brother (they were only co-emperors for a brief time in 211, after their father's death) - I, too, have nothing against Lucius still being alive- as I assumed the film-Lucius was an amalgam- because technically speaking, a son of Lucilla's did live into the reign of Caracalla- she had two; I figured they were using the name of the first, but the lifespan of the second- but I was also hoping for a different movie than the one we _appear_ to be getting...

    • @Cormano980
      @Cormano980 17 днів тому

      It's made for americans, they believe Star Wars is a real historical event

  • @dbach1025
    @dbach1025 Місяць тому +1

    Scorsese' films have to be treated as pure fiction, or the historical inacuracies` can drive you mad.

    • @afroahmed3989
      @afroahmed3989 Місяць тому +2

      Scorsese?!

    • @dbach1025
      @dbach1025 Місяць тому +1

      @@afroahmed3989 I just watched a video on him. LOL I meant Scott. Thx for the reply.

  • @Omar_listenin
    @Omar_listenin Місяць тому +4

    why is a contemporary song playing in a roman movie

    • @nocteowl
      @nocteowl 29 днів тому +1

      They have sharks in the colosseum. Who gives a fuck, it's a movie

    • @misterrightuk
      @misterrightuk 28 днів тому

      It’s not playing “in” the movie or have you seen it before anyone else? This is a trailer. They even had a Kid Rock playing over a trailer for the first movie.

  • @ryanmarquez9404
    @ryanmarquez9404 Місяць тому +1

    It will definitely be entertaining....but not good