Gladiator 2 Critics GASLIGHT Fans About Trailer Problems
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Gladiator 2 is a sequel from Director Ridley Scott but as the official trailer was released, it's music choice was odd. While the media and professional critics decided that anachronism was their new word of the day. The youtube Gladiator 2 trailer got downvoted due to a mismatch in music, tone and content. Is Gladiator 2 worth watching?
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The Gladiator 2 official trailer is out and got instantly downvoted due an incredibly awful music choice. Music that just didn't fit the tone, aesthetic nor setting of ancient Rome. Yet the press decided to not just defend such an obviously unpopular choice, but misinterpret the problems in the first place. Deciding to spam the word anachronism, rather than realise it was simply about a holistic view of the movie. The gladiator 2 trailer also had a lot of other problems that distracted from the setting and made the trailer unrealistic. You end up spending your time analysing the trailer noticing problems, than getting emotionally involved in the story, like in A Knights Tale. But what did you think of the Gladiator 2 trailer? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)
Props to you for the Knights Tale shout out. Loved that film and it was chock full of top tier actors
They’d have been better off using the theme tune from the TV show, Gladiators.
Agree. The music in First Knight pumped me up, in contrast the music in the Gladiator 2 trailer just confused me.
When you showed the squirrels you could have used something better
Friday 13th where Crispin glover is dancing, the music they used isn't the music that was on at the time
Maximus' son
My grandma told me "No matter what they teach you in school, Emperor Nero did in fact blast American gangster rap in the Colosseum"
This comment made me literally spit my drink out with laughter 🤣
If parody movies were still a thing like Scary Movie was, this 100% would've been a scene.
Kanye isn't really gangsta rap though but yes, rap in trailers is annoying
Your Grandmother!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sound artists that aren't. Editors that can't. Producers that shouldn't. Writers that didn't. Viewers that mustn't.
Underrated comment TBH
Best comment here. Clip and pasting that.
"You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could, you didn't stop to think if you should."
Who. WHO! Not "That". Who!
My only edit would be "Viewers that won't"
-Race swapped historical figures✔️
-Women in the military during ancient times ✔️
-Out-of-place music✔️
-Padro Pascal✔️
Yep, this is a modern dogshit Hollywood movie alright.
Women did participate in military actions in Antiquity however, that would never fucking happen in Rome. Holy fuck.
Also, I reckon someone might’ve read “Scipio Africanus” and been like ayo we wuz romanz, fuck me
I mean tbf in gladiator 1 there was a black woman who was riding and shooting arrows from the chariot and got sliced in half. But I never really took it as out of place because of… well, the S word the Romans and people of that time committed to a lot and I figured she was just forced into it and became a good fighter because of it. The other girl in the trailer looks seriously out of place.
@sidvyas8549 we really are living in that time where so few people read the original source materials and they fill in the blanks with wikipedia and their own head canon.
just read Pedo Pascal and tought yeah that's fitting with the theme :D
'Are you not black and gay..?' - Biggus Dickus 2024
😂😂😂😂
Bwing out woderwick!
You know that sexual relationships between men were normalized in Ancient Rome right? And by the way, Caracalla and Geto (who's actors are as white and caucasian as milk) were the sons of an arabic sirian woman and a north african man. In terms of appearance, even Michael B Jordan and Danny Glover make more sense than this two. If you are going to complain about black or LGTB representation, at least try to do it in a context less diverse than Rome. Open a history book once in while man
seems you do not know history. Denzel's character was a real person and emperor of Rome and was born in Algeria which is in Africa and he was a descendant of the Berber people who were black so there goes your narrative.
@@fracturedsolace145 😂🤣😂🤣 there's busts of him it looks like a white guy stop peddling crap
I remember my grandma saying: "Doesnt matter what they tell you at school but all Gladiators were Straight Outta Compton"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro XD
That's the best one I've seen 😂
Straight out of Compton 😂😂😂
Straight out of Pompey!!!
Yeah, but europeans whitewashed all of history two hundred years ago. I guarantee you all the gladiators were melanated. Because when have you seen a white man? That's just ready to bang out, because he's so brave without a badge.
GWA
"Black character!? ADD HIPHOP!!!"
And they call US racists?
exactly!! 🤣
Hip hop is not just a negative stereotype though, it's a genre that communities find hard to detach from and may not always feel the need to
we should be.
@@MrVidification Adding hip hop to a scene, movie, game or trailer SPECIFICALLY cause there's black characters involved is 100% a negative stereotype.
The same was done in Assassin's Creed Shadows when showing Yasuke murdering people, but since it's in Japan, they mixed in "Japanese-sounding" music with the hip hop.
@@AzureRoxe No one said it wasn't, or couldn't be. Note the words 'not' and 'just'. In the end, it's likely done because it's the fast, lazy and easy option that companies think is all that is needed to please the masses. Sometimes it is true, sometimes not, it depends on the target audience
The message is pretty obvious at this point:
“The things you love now belong to us and we’re going to do everything we can to ruin them because we hate you”.
And because we have absolutely no effing idea how to make something new and original.
Never underestimate Gen-Zs ability to co-opt and destroy.
@@lingricen8077Gen z? This is all smol hats. Wake up for God's sake
@@zephyrosuav9760 You reap what you sow zoomer
@@lingricen8077 Gen x failure thinking zoomers run the media companies. Noahide lover.
Gladiator 2? Why? To what end? The first movie was a masterpiece and a stand alone film. We do not have the need for another.
"Are you not entertained?!?!"
"Well, no, as a matter of fact we're not..."
"If you're not entertained, then you ain't black"- Joe "Nero" Biden.
👎
You're racist!
@@sd5458 subtle, but very nice reference.
😂😂🤣😂
"We want to appeal to a global audience."
I had no idea that California was the entire globe.
Well ... they ARE communists ... and then DEMAND that "everyone has the same racial and most importantly SEXUAL makeup as they have.
Modern California shit
They don't understand the world outside of it.
Jay Z is from New York
@@ndabenhlesibande9008Didn't realize the whole glove was basketballers
I tried to watch the first episode of the second season of The Serpent Queen and I forgot that there were so many African women in positions of power in 16th Century France, much less all the other ethnicities. I was so mad at being lied to all these years that I turned it off.
As a French i can confirm, we all came from Africa, being white there is a genetic malfunction.
😂
they are rewriting history in all levels
Definitely not a good season we waited a damn year for. I remember when a season was 12 episodes and only took a 6 month break between seasons and were actually better each season lol the good old days.
I know how you feel...
Cannot watch any "Biblical Movies" and "God's of Egypt" is just ghastly!!!
Imagine, the great K'met Empire, born from what is now South Sudan, had nothing but "White" Kings and God's.
Ben Hur, an Arabic Jew, played by a great English Actor.
Cleopatra, a Greek Empress of Egypt, played by an askanasi Jew.
Talk about "Historical Accuracy"... but a movie with a Black man playing an African Emperor of an Empire that had a large African population (and an Emperor named Scipius the African).
The only entertaining part of “modern content” is watching how much money it loses.
Facts!!
It baffles me HOW... much money they are content on losing. However at this point. Im Under the suspicion that they are actually, WINNING, at diverting our consciousness. So..... Reply. Who is laughing at who 🤔🫠
i would be totaly fine with it if it weren't for the hypocrisis. sure make a black roman emperor, but then don't complain when i make a shaka zulu movie with the whitest white boy i can find as shaka
@@tommerker8063 No. Bcoz that would be racist 😅
Common sense is against the law of human rights remember 😂
You're only allowed to have emotions and opinions that follow the narrative!
Otherwise you're a cis white toxic masculine patriarchal womaniser who kills innocent animals and sacrifices babies, remember?! 😂
The real shame is, the first Gladiator film, had one of the best musical scores ever made for film to take from.
Omfg yes!!! Gladiator’s soundtrack was so f*ing epic and memorable!
@@LB-yg2brSo memorable, Hans Zimmer reused tracks for another movie.
Agree 👍🏾
Well the first new movie of Dune also got best music awards but to me the music was mostly annoying...
The book of eli
& meet Joe Black
We're stunning soundtracks as well.
The reason it worked in Knights Tale was because it was tongue-in-cheek. With Gladiator 2 it’s just dumb.
they also used classic songs didnt make new ones themed to the movie
@@alexandermccabe556 It worked fine for James Bond until "current day".
Also, in knights tale the music was picked to give the correct feeling to the audience.
Gladiator 2, they picked music where some of the lyrics could maybe match the scene, but who on earth listen to the lyrics in rap songs?
@@woldemunster9244 The last good song was Adele's "Skyfall"
@@woldemunster9244 well james bond at least takes place in the period the music would have been made
It’s amazing how the music can take a movie looking dramatic to using rap music and making it look like a comedy.
"Sir, I found a song with "colosseum" in the lyrics."
"License it, quick!"
See, I could see it as a good choice for a fan made video, you know? But for the OFFICAL trailer? REALLY?!
I honestly think this was the entire conversation prior to this choice.
The stupid thing is the song (No Church in the Wild) fit well in The Great Gatsby film and marketing. A movie about super rich white people in the 1930's.
The song itself is not the problem, it's the lazy pairing with Gladiator 2 because a couple of lyrics fit.
Air-headed, basic bitch logic. These current writers all passed college on the Grammarly train. No brains. 🙄
@@OOhlUkaTmEImGanSTaalso Kanye can't rap and his lyrics prove it. It simplistic he over uses words and repeats the same word to rhyme . It's a sign of no skill the new gen seem to forgot .
They really picked a song that had the word coliseum in it and called it a day.
Google search
XD
They couldn't find one with the word colonoscopy in it so that was their next choice.
A TRAINING DAY!!!
Yeah, they should have used the song "Enter the Gladiators" since that song has gladiator in the title.
@@GunbladeKnightThey should've played the TV Show Gladiators theme, much better 👌
When I first saw there was gonna be a Gladiator 2, my first thought was "why...?" My second thought was "Oh, Denzel... maybe it wont be so bad..." my last thought before closing the trailer was "oh.. Padro Pascal... welp now its gonna be stupid and dull... thanks guys..."
Remember tue ending music. His friend buries the little wooden figure. He says ....I'll join you soon, my brother, not yet, not yet. The epic music playing. You are just crying for the end that he's dead. EPIC.
The biggest problem with this movie is that it shouldn't exist. There was ZERO reason for it to be made.
Even Russell Crowe said "What's he gonna do, open up a f***ING burger joint?" Love Russel Crowe 😅
As soon as I heard about it I knew it would be some nonsense… I can’t think of a single modern reboot/prequel/sequel that was actually good
EVERY franchise is being handed to Gen-Z, hurry up and recognise the pattern
I laughed pretty hard maybe that is their intention? It has to be a parody. Like scary movie.
I agree!
Gladiator never needed a sequel. The same can be said for a lot of films, though, with the rare exception.
the point with that though is this is almost a reboot/remake except Ridley Scott would never allow that, so it becomes a sequel even though the main characters, rather than merely the supporting cast, all died and the story had concluded. for 310million, so its what nearly 620million after advertising, you can make alot of original films of new stories with new characters, some who may even be about hip hop music.
Sequel must be made ONLY if they can keep quality of original or make it better, but seems each and every talentless hacks at Hollywood thinking they some kind of Shakespeare... and they cry for damage control from SJW's and wokies.
1. they race-swapped white dude into black
2. cry that racists don't want to see or hear hip-hop rap in story about Romans/Greeks
3. repeat step 1 and 2
And these is same people who cring me a river why Aquaman and Wonder Woman...white, for real...
They should have just stuck to the original idea and made a prequel
@Nachtara-Szellas Well Hollywood has been creatively bankrupt for almost 2 decades.
@Nachtara-Szellas His later movies don't even feel like he has just lost his mojo, but like he does not even give a flying F about anything. 'Prometheus' for instance suffered from a whole plethora of absolutely silly plotholes that I would not even expect from a bloody beginner, because they were so obvious. And the only explanation I can find when someone of the (former) format of a Ridley Scott is making such blunt mistakes is that he honestly, seriously does not give a crap anymore.
Didn't give a f*ck about a sequel to Gladiator.
Still don't give.
I call this the "Hamilton" effect.
Some people really liked the musical Hamilton (which was no where near historically accurate, and it had rap music)... I never understood the blind fascination or the awards it received, but now that we got over the hurtle of trying to do a period piece with accuracy (too much work, & oh so boring)- we can now do anything we want with any play, movie or show and no one's allowed to complain out of fear of being called a racist if you don't love it.
I love Denzel Washington as an actor... but this was a weird role to take. Especially considering if the Romans ever got their hands on a dark skinned Nubian, he'd of been fed to the lions alongside the Christians. Rome was a terrible place to be if you weren't Roman.
I thought you meant lewis hamilton in f1.. did the same sort of thing clamoring and winning souls (for his own social profile) for some sort of forced diversity. Where the sport, the technology and the people working there are chosen based on quality and performance and merit. Just as an actor you either fit the part or you dont...diversity should have nothing to do with it. Actually, normalcy returned to sport and other drama is more prevalent lol... perhaps showbiz will see the light too soon. I mean how many times can people not like what youre doing and you keep doing it...
So Denzel Washington, (who can pass as a north african or even etrurian in terms of appearance) is weird, but Joseph Quinn (who plays Caracalla and was the son of a sirian woman and north african man) is not weird?
@@Trey-s6r true... (Seeing the statue of that emperor)
I guess the historic perspective is really missing and people over generalize what the color of a roman should be.
Hollywood/production companies also put people on edge you know, by forcing this diversity and wokeism into their cinema. Now, even when it might be acceptable, people protest when they see something that looks like that.
@@dco1019 That's a sad thing. Everyone is so busy following a political agenda or rejecting the same agenda, and anyone opens a history book.
@@Trey-s6r we live in the age of complaints
My favourite part of the hobbit was when "rock you like a Hurricane" came on while Legolas was stone surfing. Really touching moment
Mine was when ‘Freebird’ was played over the Mines of Moria fight scene in The Fellowship 😂
Idk that could work.
Well they did fuck it up with that awful "I see fire" pop song over the credits. Which jarred everyone out of the moment.
LOTR had us leave to ethereal Enya and kept the fantasy feeling of the movie.
You’re making a joke but that would’ve made the movie more fun. As it stands, those movies are hard to watch.
'But it's fitting, because the song has the word, 'Rock' in it! '
Sequel nobody needed nor wanted
Did we deserve it?
Only one who wanted it is Ridley Scott
I really hate sequels removed by literally decades in time. I saw the first one in about 2002 so when I saw there would be a new one I was shocked. Like really? 20+ years later?! The original can drink! 😂
Nostalgia milking
and that no one will watch
"I read your list of virtues for films: stirring action; drama centered on righteous revenge and service, standing against betrayal and hunger for power...
My film scripts have their own virtues: boredom; forced diversity in casting; forced diversity in music!"
*tears begin to flow...*
"But none of my virtues were on your list!"
I was a big fan of the original, and this is enough to make me ignore this film. Of course, 2024 Hollywood doesn’t care one bit about my generation and demographic. Nor do they care about film making as an art anymore. It’s now all pandering, mass-marketed BS.
"Are you not entertained?!"
"No, the music choices among other things broke immersion."
"Raycist!"
"Don't care. Fix it or be quiet."
I want Ye to cameo in the stands
And the hypocritical Rraycism is that if Denzel Washington wasn't in the movie, No church in the wild wouldn't be in the trailer.
Hollywood still hasn’t realized that the race card’s magnetic strip wore out long, LONG ago.
@@makuthreesixty8228 that's actually a very good fracking point. Also I love Denzel Washington but unfortunately I don't think his presence alone can un-shit the movie and believe me the end product is going to be shit. Which is also another problem that movies are no longer art but instead a product.
Immersion? In a historical movie? You must not be a history nerd. If I see “knock, draw, loose” one more time I might go postal.
WHO ASKED FOR A GLADIATOR 2?!
To be fair some people did... Like 20 years ago.
Who asked for Alien 10? Cashgrabs.
A bunch of Hollywood executives in a business meeting discussing what unnecessary sequels to make next and one responded with "Gladiator 2" and another said "Genius and we can just insult the audience when it fails"
*looks around.... shrugs*
Good question
No one, but Hollywood has zero original thoughts
I barely paid attention to the music. I simply saw Ridley cloning the first Gladiator.
Yes
Watching the fan trailer with original Gladiator music is not only better but also gives me those nostalgia vibes. Using modern music in historical dramas/epics can work. Like in the BBC Barbarians documentary trailer and 300, which also had totally diffrent music in it’s trailers.
I'm just sick of them trying to rewrite history to fit their narrative
In what way?
Rome conquered Carthage and their nobles were integrated into Roman nobility.
This is BEFORE, the Arabs conquered North Africa. So the Cathagenians would have looked like the South Sudanese (the decendants of the K'met Empire, the place the "West" now calls "Ancient Egypt").
African nobles would also find themselves integrated into European nobility centuries later when the English, French, Germans, Spanish, Dutch, Belgians were trying to weasel their way into the African Empires, which they would later conquer from within.
@@DChosen13 dude, carthage was a phoenecian colony, they are not subsaharan, they are a semitic group and have roots in modern lybia. from your quotation marks i assume that you also believe that cleopatra was subsaharan african too.
and your entire take on history is just baffling, you wokes realy are a pest.
@@tommerker8063 the Egypt that everybody tries to claim was known as the K'met Empire. You know, the Pyramids, the Sphinx, the Great University Cities, the birth of European Mathematics and Medicine (Hypocrates and Pythogoras both studied in K'met under the students of High Priest Imhotep).
Semitic people do not look anything like the Askanashi Jews of Europe. Streisand is Jew(ish) not Semetic.
Do note that I pointed out that Cleopatra was "Greek". She is the decendant of the Macedonian who held Egypt after Alexander died... hence the quotes around the Greek. Macedonia has never been a part of Greece, but the greatest Macedonian is a "Greek".
I note that YOU have nothing to say about the all white leading cast of a movie set in an African empire, before they had any interaction with the European continent.
Make it all make sense.
@@DChosen13 if there was a world championship in mssing the point, you would hold it for life.
@@tommerker8063 sorry for not agreeing with you on your very strongly held points, but I didn't want BOTH of us to be wrong.
Keep on keeping on with your Ron DeSantis style history.
This is how much cinema has devolved. Gladiator is a story about revenge, honour and sacrifice. The music portrays this beautifully throughout. This trailer gives such a childlike mentality of “oooh sword fights wow look how cool it is to be a gladiator!”
Well in Lazywood sure, but there are those out there that still craft amazing films. Just look at Joker, Dune, Oppenheimer etc. modern western cinema can still deliver if they want to
What’s wrong with having fun? Movie ain’t even out. Seems like a fine movie. They’re even doing all the fun gladiator stuff like doing the sea battles in the colosseum, and the rhino rider was sick af.
Look I’m a huge history guy. More than anyone I know. I’m not looking for a historical movie in this. If I was, then the first gladiator would have sucked.
But I’m not, I want to have fun. Sets look awesome. I’ll give it a shot. We’ll see how the movie is on release.
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 even cgi looks terrible. That is breaking illusion already. This a skip for me
@@Aubreysangel666 rhino riding gladiator
Im there for it
@@Aubreysangel666 I think all depictions of Rome need rhino riders. I now want a Rome Total War mod that adds Rhino Gladiators.
Hollywood is determined to constantly remind you that you're not visiting ancient Rome, but sitting in a theatre in 2024 wondering why you left the house, found parking, bought your snacks and sat in an uncomfortable chair where the floor is sticky for some reason, spending nearly a hundred dollars for you and wife. And you notice all those things because you're not immersed in the movie.
Hollywood: “as if you have a wife you filthy incel”
To answer the sticky floor question. It is a type of industrial floor cleaner. We use it at my job and it makes the floor tacky.
I once read a study arguing it was alien kum.
Most of us stopped going to theaters in 2020 and just bought better couches, speakers, and tvs. It's actually way cheaper that way.
@@FXIIBeaver
It couldn’t possibly be because someone spilled a sticky carbonated sugary drink? Oh my goodness. It’s a commercial grade substance that helps adhere to make it stick😂wax on wax off anyone?
“It’s racist to say that Denzel Washington doesn’t fit in the setting of Gladiator 2.”
Equalizer 3 is a movie set in Italy, which also stars Denzel Washington. Only difference is that it takes place in modern times. Nobody complained about that, so how exactly are we racist?
Anyone remember in the 90s when big soulless corporations put awful rap into their bland films, shows and games to be "hip with da kids?" It was cringe then and it's cringe now.
There was an absolutely hilarious commercial for a product called bubble tape. It was 6 feet of bubble gum in something that looks like a scotch tape cassette. “Your school principal can’t smile, can’t swim, can’t rap … and he can’t stand bubble tape. For YOU not them!”
We laughed our butts off at how silly it was because it was obviously trying to show they “get” how kids think. And failing. 😂
More cringe currently
I remember when the simpsons added Pootchie and it was EXTREME and IN YOUR FACE!!!
The difference is, now we are told we are biggots for not liking it lol
That's not why they do it.
Pedro Pascal and whoever that main actor is have all the gravitas and screen presence of a cave troll.
I thought it was the same person with de-aging software...not even joking. They are indeed both actors with the range of an orange.
looked like daniel radcliffe
i was thinking more like a wet fart
Music aside pretty much all of the cuts were a mess for various reasons
Two woksters playing Gladiators... Ahh Fk it they had a Commie play Capt America sooo.... Least back then they didn't value wokeism above all.
All they had to do was say; sorry we made a mistake by letting a 20 year old in charge of the music. Here's a new version of the trailer.
Are they not aware that there was already a black gladiator in the original movie, played by Djimon Hounsou? And yet, they didn't need to put hip hop music in the background and make him gangsta or anything back then, they just made him a realistic period character of African origin.
"How do you know the Romans did NOT play rap, where you there?"- Ridley Scott, probably
Ridley Scott should have called it a day after the f'n catastrophe that was _Alien: Covenant_
@@the_absurd_hero Alien 3 killed what could have been a massive franchise because he didn't like how popular James Cameron's Aliens was. He'll never be done sucking at this point.
Italians don’t even act like Brits. So seeing Brits try their best at playing a Roman is always laughable. Their performances are always super stale. Just watching an Italian film is a better representation of Roman’s. Barbarians was close but season 2 ruined it.
@Nachtara-Szellas Prometheus was a bad movie. The fotography was amazing, but that is where the positive things I can say about this movie end at least in my book. The story was horrible in general and often a complete mess in detail and the whole movies is full with logic holes a bloody beginner would not make, _if_ he cares even a bit. And that's how the whole Prometheus movie feels to me, like Scott gave a flying crap and simply could not be bothered to care.
@@FrostyMountain-wo3kl Okay, but from what limited information we have about how Romans behaved, I honestly think it'd be closer to Brits. They were a bit stuffy and conservative and uptight.
Reminds me when the orchestra on the deck of the Titanic tried to rally the passengers by belting out a great cover of Kiss' "I wanna rock and roll all night".
Wtf is Denzel doing in a Roman sandal epic? Tf
Considering the fact that the parents of the two antagonists were sirian and north african, less sense has Joseph Quinn than Denzel Washington (who can pass as north african, common in Rome).
@@Trey-s6r Yes, good point. Denzel could pass for North African and yes, many Roman citizens probably looked like him.
@@RogueReplicant no, he couldn't. just because someone is from africa doesn't make them a subsaharan native.
@@Trey-s6r he is black and he cant pass as north african
My grandma told me: "I don't care what they told you in school, rap music was blasted in the Colisseum.
These people aren't journalists, they're bullys.
Insulting people for having different opinions is bullying. Simple as that.
I find it funny that in the time of torrenting, these people think they have power to dictate to us. Too funny.
Imagine my shock when I went to Texas and found out it was full of Texans!
Theyre not just bullies, they are self worshipping morons... and cowards to boot.
@@swampfaye that's why Texas is so bad, no racial diversity. I expected to find a Sri Lankan mayor and People carrying fruit baskets on their head... I came to just a state full of bigoted Americans!!!
Brainwashed commies
Hans Zimmer made the original movie atmospheric, sorrowful, uplifting and it added that overall timeless gleam...now it's just another movie that will age terribly as the accompanying music is just as critical as the actual screenplay itself.
The music in the original, can bring you to tears. This trailer, laughter lol there’s literally no talent left.
H.Z.'s music like it or hate and the work its in, but it always uplifts the work it is in.
Take crysis 2 for example , a lot of people don't like it as a game but everyone admits when the Hans Zimmer tracks hit during that game it always amplifies the moment and whatever impact it has dramatic or otherwise.
Just take a look at some of the loading screen cutscenes for the game or its intro/trailer scene and you can see where Mick Gordon and many great composers nowdays drew inspiration from there with how it implements music into the game.
NEVER let an UNCULTURED AMERICAN design the music for any big movie. Either this AMERICAN composer makes CLASSICAL MUSIC ... or they are crap.
Nobody likes euro culture anymore, get over it. We like 808s, dancing and a good time now OK 👌
We like tasty food too 😂
Recently seen hans zimmer live, i was anticipating the gladiator soundtrack the whole time, when it was finally played, i genuinely cried. Its an absolutely incredible piece of music for a fantastic film. Its so iconic and always will be.
This... this is just sad.
I read, that for A Knight's Tale, the use of modern music was to represent how the music at the time would have been enjoyed. Like at the tournament, We Will Rock You fires us up and they surely would have had the equivalent even if it sounded completely different.
Thou whilst rocketh thine.
"The song mentions a mausoleum and a coliseum.....its so perfect!" - Bonehead Hollywood
"It'll be hip-hoppin' with da kidz" - same person.
😂😂 that is reason enough for suicide by face palm
Definitely a native USA accent is the right choice for a North African Roman.
North africans were never black, they were more like arabic or semite
Naturally.
Is a British one better? Both are equally new
English didn't even exist back then. An American accent is fine, but the regional accent defies convention and is distracting.
Not taking about realism, talking about thematic context.
It's drama. It's fiction. It's art.
Might as well have a deep South Alabama accent for the Roman emperor if it "doesn't matter".
Let's not be silly though.
'Now we are free' became a legendary soundtrack because it fits the movie so well.
The scene of Maximus walking through the field of wheat while 'now we are free' plays is still so iconic 25 years later people still post viral video's about.
I doubt this music will have the same effect.
I've studied music theory and can say that music is there in movies to create a mood. To create a mood you first pick a mode to create that mood. You have the generic modes Ionian, Dorian, Phyrgian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, and Locrian, these are the Church modes, but not even an exhaustive list of modes, there are much more exotic modes to choose from such as the modes based on the harmonic minor, melodic minor and more - you can even create your own modes if you like but you must know a little about music theory. The thing though, that sets the mode, the characteristic of the music, is the chords that are used, and really bring the mode to bare, cement the mode, is melody used over the top using the notes that will really make the mode pop, it can be an instrument or voice. And that is where 'modern' rap music fails to create a mood, there is no chord structure in place, no overarching melody to really cement the mode and the voice is placed haphazardly over the top in a monotone way, it is not working with the music. So, in effect it is just totally rhythmic in nature except the voice is not following the rhythm. Rhythm is an important part of music, no doubt about that, one the the seven precepts of music, but, without an underlying chord/melody structure you are not "creating" a mood, you are basically creating a rhythmic noise. Sometimes I enjoy rhythmic noise, Taiko drumming for instance, but, creating a mood, nope. Now that music might appeal to people in certain cultures with nothing else. But there is more, much, much more to creating a mood - and this I'm afraid fails the test.
Ridley is on a mission to destroy his own legacy. First Alien and now Gladiator, I wonder what will be next.
Notice the common thing in both: ZOOMERS.
Yeah, what's all the crap after Aliens??..
I heard he's doing a sequel series to Blade Runner called 2099. Hoping to god it isn't as tone deaf and backwards as some of his other recent work
Napoleon was trash also
@@ebf336 How much you wanna bet it will star 20-something year old zoomers, despite all the others ones having people in their late 30s/40s? Because what franchise don’t zoomers get
Hans Zimmer. One of the most talented composers of movie scores ever.... Who was nominated for an oscar FOR Gladiator.... In a sequel for a stand alone movie made over 2 decades ago which is trying to leverage nostalgia to attract viewers, chose to say 'f*ck it, throw in hip-hop.'
Too be fair Hans Zimmer does not have that much difference in his music you know it when it is his music for the most part in the Original Gladiator there is literally a music piece called He is a Pirate and is the main theme from pirates of the Caribbean.
Do not misunderstand me he is way way better then this.
@@havtor007 not the first composer to reuse motifs in different movies, whisper it even John Williams has done.
Hanz zimmer refused to do this sequel telling a lot about quality of this sequel
@@havtor007 Man I'm tired of hearing this, people can't stop bringing it up ever since Honest Trailers mentioned it. Mozart recycled and so have a lot of composers/musicians/bands over the centuries including the Beatles and Green Day. It's their music to do what they want with it, if they want to throwback to a particular sound, they can.
@@boboboy8189 Frankly they could use the same music and it would likely end up better anyways.
Holywood logic: the music is hiphop because the character is black
People forget that the earliest trailers of the original Gladiator had Kid Rock "Bawitaba" playing in the background.
Let’s play where’s Pedro… Name a modern movie and he’s IN it. 😂
Not only is he in it, but just like many people mention that Denzel Washington is just playing Denzel Washington, Pedro Pascal pretty much only does that now.
Pedro is the Latino Jon Voight, who is the white Samuel L. Jackson....one of them has been in every movie made in the past 30 years, I think
Much easier than finding Wally.
@@samspurgeon4222to be fair Samuel Jackson can actually act. Pedro Pascal not so much...
@@AzureRoxecan't say I would be able to identify the Pedro Pascal specific acting quirks honestly. Denzel has something specific to his "style" like Pacino or de Niro has. You kind of know their way of acting. Pedro is generic at best.
Hans Zimmer's soundtrack to the original "Gladiator" is stunning. What the Hell is going on with this crap?!!!
It was so good he repackaged it several more times for other soundtracks.
To be honest it's just the trailer, and if anyone wants to say anything, I hope you didn't forget that the trailer back in 2000 played Kid Rocks Bawatiba
Gladiator's OST was brilliant & I still listen to it when the mood takes me.
I agree that rhe music doesnt fit the trailer but calling Hip Hop "niche" is wild.
It's cringe
R. Scott "Yeah I want to make a new Gladiator movie, but I want to distance this movie from the original"!
Shills "Yes, that's a great idea, what are you going to call it"?
R. Scott "Gladiator" "2"!
😂 describes it perfect
The only thing I want to hear in a Gladiator movie is Lisa Gerrard's vocals over Hans Zimmer's symphonic music.
“Are you not entertained!?”
Me: I am not. 😒
As you said about the saints row trailer, it was almost built around the song they picked. The entirety of gladiator 2 isn't the same, it's purely based on the fact that the ye song has the word "colosseum" in it
hip hop: music about criminals glorifying their criminal behavior all to further their personal greed, hunger for power, lust and disrespect for others who aren't within their small circle.
Gladiator I: revenge story about a highly respected person done wrong by a criminal pursuing personal greed and hunger for power.
Gladiator II trailer: those things are basically the same, right?
Hip hop is a bit broader than that
@@glencurtis6052 It is, but the most popular acts are doing just that
Fun fact: the investment firms that own the rap music companies also have controlling stocks in private prisons.
Things that make ya go "hmmmm"
@@sarasunshinemt4444They don't give care. Black people bad...reeeeeee
@@Cobbido Hip Hop: rap and spoken word poetry plus dancing, music and street art.
The genre Gangster Rap is a subdivision within that. One which is poison.
I'm not supporting any new movie, show or game made for "new audiences" but using an old beloved name just for marketing.
Hollywood needs to start letting the DIRECTORS have final say on trailers...
The repeated use of the word anachronism in different articles actually made me think that someone higher up lobbyed/sent a task to those "news" agencies to publish articles with specific bullet points but their journalists are either too stupid or lazy or whatever else that they mostly just copy-pasted those bullet points and add some extra text for volume. Alternatively, they use the same AI to write shit.
I was at a Minnesota Vikings game at the Metrodome when they decided to get the crowd fired up with some awful rap noise. When it finally ended you could hear a pin drop in the stadium. All I could do is laugh out loud at such a misplaced choice of music. Thankfully that was the end of that failed experiment.
About Vikings and music. The singing technic in Death/Black Metal called growling is actually how Vikings would sing, some songs.
So, next time ask them to play some Norwegian Black Metal 🤘😁🇳🇴
@@DEATH-THE-GOAT hey, do you have a link to an example so I can listen to it?
@@conanmn2381 by some youtube curse am I not allowed to post links. But the band *"Dimmu Borgir"* song - _"Mourning palace"_ is a good start
@@conanmn2381 Heilung isn't Viking, it's an older style, but it does have a gravelly tone and a lot of drums. You might like them.
@@DEATH-THE-GOAT Actually not. We don't have records of Vikings songs. It's mosty modern association made based on what now we thing of music fitting vikings.
It’s about Hollywood 2022. Which is when all this was really put together. Keep in mind they are always 2 years behind due to production. Which is why they shouldn’t chase trends they need to make them.
Thoughts like these are why I read the comments. Thank you.
Try the early 2010's
You absolute dullard.
Guess who review bombs your trailer.......
YOUR POTENTIAL AUDIENCE.
F-ING 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
One of the key things about Gladiator which punctuated the deep and dramatic moments was the music. The calm amongst the storm reminding the audience of the purpose of the character and the struggle that is taking place. It popularized an incredible song the elicits so many emotions. The choice they made here for the music just shows an immediate downgrade in caliber - or i suppose more fairly a change in tone different than that of Gladiator. I think the major mistake they made here is they called this Gladiator 2 - name it whatever else and I think they would've been fine.
I had so many people trying to say it was ist in every comments section about the trailer music who insisted we'd been fine if it was Aerosmith or something.
And no, that'd been terrible too
It needed *LADY GAGA*
Rock or Hip Hop could have been fine. Making mid trailers is simple - music with a simple but punchy time signature and a memorable sound then edit the action to match it. It'll always be at least decent. They failed on every point.
@@scottwright6822disagree, for ancient time. It's better to have traditional music because traditional music touch your heart and giving positive energy. Meanwhile what rap does for you brain? Nothing.....
Run Dmc and Aerosmith?
@@boboboy8189 For a good trailer? Absolutely. For a mid trailer you just go punchy and memorable with action edited to match. Dead easy and well understood. They couldn't even do that.
These people in Hollywood heard the expression, "Bread and Circuses" and assumed that they could one up it with "Milk and Cereal".
It’s so sad how they can’t make anything good anymore
It is entirely ON PURPOSE ... because they are COMMUNISTS and WANT TO DEMORALISE EVERYONE.
Instead of seeing the remake I'm just going to enjoy the original again
As a black man and being in film and editing ain’t no reason hip hop in anything involved in gladiator, we didn’t ask for that 😭🤣
Ridley Scott is a hack its a sad realization but there is no other option
He's seen better days.
It really is amazing that the same guy who gave us Alien, Blade Runner, and Gladiator to name a few can push out a turd like Gladiator II. @@theunknowncommenter725
What _was_ his last good film? I can't remember anything good that's more recent than _Gladiator_ which is ironic...
(And if you say _Prometheus_ was OK, you're wrong)
@@the_absurd_hero prometheus was what made me realize this
@@the_absurd_hero The Last Duel was a decent movie.
A good example of this issue in the past was the soundtrack for "Young Guns II". The film makers wanted to use Bon Jovi's "Wanted Dead or Alive" because of the title of the song and it had the lyrics "I'm a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride...". Jon said that the lyrics didn't fit the genre or movie (steel horse is a motorcycle for one), so he wrote "Blaze of Glory" specifically inspired by that movie. The end result speaks for itself.
Not just that track though they brought out a couple of singles around that movie. Both the movie and it's OST where bangers I might add. Still have them lying around somewhere.
I wore out my cassette of that soundtrack. Love that movie.
Loved that song as a kid. Yung Guns 2 was awesome... up there with dirty jobs? For Emillio
@@derekhamel2991 You're right, it is a great movie and sound track.
Are you thinking of "Men at Work" with his brother Charlie from 1990?
Yeah his YGs movies are at the top... along with "Repo Man", "The Outsiders", "The Breakfast Club, and "St. Elmo's Fire".
Repo man always intense.
Damn, bro, Disparu, this is the first time I ever watched you. Let me tell you; you, sir, are a wordsmith. Not to let that fact overshadow your content, because it is spot on. Thank you!
PS. “All the people are angry”, I am one of those people.
The Cardigans in Gran Turismo... 2?
My nephews didn't listen to anything anywhere near that ballpark... But *STILL* love that.
Hears the word "colosseum" in the lyrics
Critics: "It perfectly fits!"
i remember my grandmother saying to me "I don't care what they tell you in school, Maximus Decimus Meridius was black"
The father of the two main antagonists was in fact, north african (and their mother sirian). So... They should be more black. At least Denzel can pass as a north african ruler (who were in Rome)
🗡️ WOW !! The re-edited trailer was fantastic 🤯🎵
1:58 not to mention the level in that game where they used that song absolutely rocked
"Change the formula of the original" - "Distance itself from the original" Everything wrong with Hollywood summed up in two sentences.
Same, got halfway through the trailer and hated it. Never wanted a 2nd Gladiator, we never needed another one. Gladiator is a top 3 movie for me and never though that Denzel would join a DEI project. Seeing Hollywood's cuck Predro Pascal in it, for some reason, told me everything I needed to know.
They really may have pitched him something good. but clearly post-production is a b*tch
@@amyqb117 I think they just threw a ton of money at him and told him he wouldn't have to change his accent, that it wouldn't matter and he could phone in his performance like Anthony Hopkins in that terrible Transformers movie.
By this logic, the original should have been filled with music from Oasis and Blur?!
Thank you. As a filmmaker the trailer broke me apart. As someone who works in the industry I can tell you it’s just quick, easy and lazy to make a trailer like this, instead of carefully crafting a trailer and possibly re-record a piece for it which makes it subsequent my more expensive. It’s way harder to cut for emotion instead of cutting action-loaded pictures to a beat.
310M$, geez. Adding that abomination of music is like getting the most expensive item in the menu (albeit it should not cost that much in the first place) and across it there’s smeared shit just because an owner of a restaurant is a prominent shit eater and they insisted on it.
Salt Bae vibes
Long live the Star Wars Holiday Special
Hip hop isn't for a niche American audience. It's popular all over the world, including the UK lol
Funny how I was a bit underwhelmed by the trailer when I saw it. I am a big fan of the Gladiator and was happy to see a sequel as it digs into nostalgia.
Yet, when I saw the re-edited one, it gave me litteral chills. It's so rare nowadays to get that.
Gladiator is one of those movies that is so good it never needed a sequel. They were better off putting the OG film in theaters then do this abomination.
"But if people like our product, how will we lose millions?" -Hollywoke. 😂
Fairly certain that the DEI hire just heard the word "coliseum" in the song and thought, "Ah man, perfect. That's legit what is in my movie."
i would love to see what goes on in those board rooms.....
There's a fan edit of the trailer that included a cover of Now We Are Free instead of the rap music, and it was 100X better than the actual trailer. In fact there are other fan edits trailers to Gladiator 2 where better music is added.
Please link it!
@@theunknowncommenter725 Evidently UA-cam gets triggered by any links in comments as spam & will make the comment invisible. I actually made one b/c I got so annoyed when the hip-hop song started, which is a rush job & not great (some words got a bit cut off), although I do enjoy how it turned out. The other 2 best fixed versions I've seen are:
1) the one in the article that Disparu played a bit of & is by AD_edits, and 2) the fixed music version done by Foghorn Films. All 3 are on UA-cam (my take's the most recent uploaded video on my channel) so if you include the channel name when searching, it should pop up easily in results.
@ChaniElkin Dammit, is that why my comment isn't showing up? Aw, man.
@@LunarSpiral1127 Probably. Evidently there's a thing if you swear in a comment UA-cam lets you see the comment but no one else can. As for the comment being listed (says 1 reply), but not showing up if it has links: I love watching sports climbing comps & there was a recent copyright block issue on Lead semis & finals videos.
Found out about the link issue when I was trying to inform people about Twitter updates & when the videos were available again. I was so confused at first, then learned about the algorithm-spam glitch so had to manually direct them instead of using link. Annoying but not the most aggravating thing UA-cam does to users, so I just default now to general directions/info to find whatever it is I'm talking about.
Rappers be wearing sandals and carrying 9mm swords.
Just got the same trailer as an advert on this YT vld.... Let it run through all 3 minutes whilst I made a coffee. Yes, the Jayzee/Kanye music was completely inappropriate.