Jedi: Fallen Order Speedruns Are DEGENERATE
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- How Speedrunners Beat Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order in Under an Hour: • How Speedrunners Beat ...
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There have been some huge developments in the Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order speedrun in the weeks ahead of the release of its sequel, so this is the perfect time to post an update to my longer form video detailing the speedrun history of Fallen Order. These new developments rely on several glitches, one of which I discovered last year, and have resulted in speedruns that can be completed in under 30 minutes on PlayStation 5 and in 45 minutes on PC.
"Skip Order 66"
Man, I bet the Jedi wish they had known that glitch
Palpatine being any%ed out of total Galactic domination: _"cheater!"_
Airwalking Skywalker: *_"World record speedrun go brrrt."_*
Lmao
That would've just King Crimson'd it
3:23 what a missed opportunity to call it a Skywalk instead of airwalk
I propose an amendment to the name.
It shall hereby be henceforth called 'Skywalk'.
As for it does not take place on land, it does not take place on sand.
@@Volvith i don't like sand
@@enochtang6646 it’s coarse, and it gets everywhere
I see the speedrunners are true Skywalkers.
I wish they’d made the Nur level replayable after you finish story.
@@simaopinto8521 No shit! Glad you filled me in! Some people like the level & would like the option to play it again without going through the whole game funny man. BTW, the base isn’t destroyed, you may want to at least read up on the Kenobi show & know what you’re talking about before laughing at someone “bruh” not that any of that dumb shit matters if you’ve got an option to play a level over! Bruh! 😂😂🙄🙄
It's a shame they never made it replayable with the updates. At least there are not any collectibles in the base, and the if you miss the scans they just give them to you after the fact.
Also at least they now allow you to travel to every place you visit again in Jedi Survivor, even if it's super linear like Nur is. (They also mention the base still stands and is operational in Survivor as well)
@@simaopinto8521 even it were destroyed they could add an option to replay the level. You know games have repayable levels right? You destroy a halo at the end of Halo and Halo 3 but you can still go back and play those final levels. Insane concept, I know.
@@simaopinto8521 its not destroyed
@simao pinto you seem awfully upset over nothing. Hope you get better
This is honestly insane. The fact that a game that took me 15-20 hours to beat can now be beaten in less than 30 minutes is just insane to me.
I love the speedrunning community. Their dedication is admirable
it's 15 minutes and 21 seconds away from being beaten in less than 30 minutes.
@@MrTriple3D its been beaten in 29 min on ps5
@@Никогдатебянеброшу-л4кyknow who else was beaten in 29 min on playstation? 😏
it's taking me 15 hours to get through zeffo (1 and 2)
@@EtherealAfro a lot of games
This is one of those rare modern AAA games that are just a joy to watch as a speed game.
I just wanted to put this here, the original video that this is the update to was my introduction to this channel and I've rewatched it and many others simply because of the passion and quality you put into your work, I didn't appreciate star wars as much as I do until I watched your content. Thank you Binks!
So true
Fusing planets to break the game exceeds my imagination in how a game can be broken. Congrats!
Coolest glitch I think I’ve seen in a game now
I wonder if the inconsistency of the run has something to do with memory manipulation. Planet Fusion triggering a skip SOUNDS like some flag getting set by geometry colliding when it shouldn't. Maybe the abandoned village pathing triggers some load zone that, through a Rube Goldberg machine of geometry crashing into trigger volumes, unlocks the skip.
Planet Fusion might be the most hilarious yet incredibly useful achievement I've seen in the speedrun community overall, at least for a while. These speedruners are so much fun, man.
I just love the fact that speedrunners found a way to skip one of the most crucial parts of Star Wars history.
"My lord, the little ginger Jedi just skipped order 66."
"He did WHAT NOW?"
"He... skipped order 66."
"How the f*ck does that even work?"
lore accurate example of hyperspace being totally busted
The thing i like about speed runs is watching how much a player can break the game without using mods.
Wow, I accidentally somehow got that glitch with the planet fusion on my regular playthrough. Had no idea what was going on, had to reset my game lol
Using these glitches without having understanding of all the mechanics of this game... god this games loading zones are so creative, but makes skipping things SO confusing lol
I'm guessing Nur only appears because the planet fusion is tricking the game into thinking that you're on both Dathomir and Zeffo at the same time so it needs another planet to be available to you, so obviously it chooses one of the three planets you can't go back to because they are the only choices as you have to get Kashyyyk in the tomb. And since Bracca is never on the holomap for obvious reasons, and you're not MEANT to be able to travel to Ordo Eris via the Mantis (if you skip the story bounty hunters then it appears on the holotable after Ilum but really it's just a completely black environment with a save point in the distance and you can't even move), it chooses Nur. But it depends on the path you take through the unloaded Abandoned Village because if you go too slowly the game has time to correct itself. That's my guess anyway.
Assuming this will be your last video before Survivor, what are your overall thoughts on what we’ve seen of the game as a whole?
Overall I'm very optimistic about the quality of the game as a whole. I can already tell that most of my biggest gripes with Fallen Order's combat haven't been addressed, but the rest of the game looks like they've completely addressed most of the criticism, including mine. That said, I can also tell that they've shown us basically nothing - Koboh, Coruscant, the Shattered Moon base and a third planet we don't know the name of yet (I think it's probably Elphrona), so there are at least 3 more entire planets that we know nothing about, and we still haven't seen the blaster combat style. There's a lot of room in what we haven't seen for disappointment, but if it's the same quality as what we have seen I think this is going to be one of the best Star Wars games ever made and a GOTY contender.
@@binksmagnus Agreed.
Elphrona…I don’t think I’ve heard that theory anywhere else. The common theory is that it’s Jedha. You might be right though.
@@oXRaptorzXo I’ve heard the Jedha theory. A few reasons I’m suspect.
1) with the Empire actively strip mining the planet and the Temple it seems like a place that wouldn’t be very smart to visit.
2) the sandstorm looks very red, like there are iron oxides in the sand, similar to why Mars is the color it is, and that’d be consistent with Elphrona’s description as a rocky, metal rich world with rust storms.
3) Elphrona was the location of a Jedi outpost during the High Republic, which ties in with the High Republic themes they’re using.
4) Elphrona is the site of a Jedi archive that is later visited/rediscovered by Luke Skywalker, Ben Solo, and Lor San Tekka. This might be the room with the archives we’ve seen Cere in.
@Binks Magnus what is the thing you think they havent addressed?
@@ThePresidentofMars the posture and death blow system looks like it’s mostly the same from Fallen Order when there’s a better version of it in Sekiro that they could’ve just stolen. That’s my biggest criticism of the combat.
I remember following another channel that speedran this game, he held the record a few times and made a Doom speedrunning video that blew up and got over a million views. I praise anyone willing to speedrun this game and its unskippable cutscenes
Alex Esposito was an early runner of this game that moved on to Doom afterward. He’s featured heavily in the original video I linked in the description
@@binksmagnus Yeah! That was the name, I had it on the tip of my tongue earlier but I wasn't sure. His tutorials on the JFO glitches were really interesting to learn, I could never speed run the game, but I was able to get so many extra experiences out of it by dicking around with Speedrun glitches and shortcuts
Ik we always joke about imagining botw speedruns in-universe, but imagine this --> a guy somehow breaks reality and fuses planets together
When my lightsaber broke on my first play through I some how did big iron, crashed my game and got the doc cosmetics for free
Why would it even be possible to load two planets on top of each other lol, it's a miracle that it doesn't just crash the game
Coach is kinda goated for this
Handsome too
Your first statement made me laugh given that Elden ring was being completed in 5 minutes merely a month after it was released
Tip for making good videos: I already knew your name when I clicked on the video, you don't have to tell me it again. It's kind of annoying and feels like I wasted the first 5 seconds of the video. Okay take it easy brother, peace.
Sorry mate, “Hello you absolute legends” was already taken.
0:19 there’s already a second one before this
How come this game wasn’t ever super popular
I wish u could skip parts after beating it to reach certain parts and after finishing one story to the end u can keep the stuff u had and skills in the next play through not just skins
“Planet fusion” 😂 I love speed runners man
Could there be a spawn in the unloaded abandoned village that normally spawns after you unlock Nur and it's flag loading causes Nur to unlock because it loading means that Nur should be unlocked?
I have a question. Why do you even land on the planet to do the glitch? First time boarding the mantis you are in space right? Did anyone ever tried that glitch there?
You have to be able to interact with the Galaxy Map, and you can’t do that until you unlock Zeffo.
We could theoretically do it on Bogano, if we knew of a set up and were able to get around loading triggers. But the way Bogano is built we can’t really move around out of bounds without falling and voiding.
research stuffs for irl use - no research in game buges for speed run - yes
Runs like these are a real good entrance to speedrunning. I'd often refer to them as 'party tricks' as it's not fun to grind them, but so nice to have at hand if you got a speedrun itch or just want to show off a bit in front of an audience.
How do I do the big iron and planet fusion, I can’t find that anywhere 😭
The most shocking thing about this video is how much better your game graphics looks than Survivor on my PS5...
Yeah, might be mentioning that in my Survivor review lol
How do u skip cutscenes and how do u skip ilium with a broken lightsaber
I love these games too much to speed run, but I appreciate these because it helps push limits, help devs(if they can patch it) and shows me people are crazy finding this stuff out. They'll do anything and not be satisfied until the boot screen is the end screen
speedrunning survivor at 20 fps looks real fun
3:47 u can do that with the broken lightsaber
i just bought another SSD for Jedi survivor so i can't even afford the game rn. Gonna be speedrunning Fallen order i think
big iron glitch is such a good name lmfao.
but man, kinda feels like a shame this was only discovered shortly before jedi survivor came out. 30-60 min speedruns are some of the easiest to get into, but obviously everyone's gonna want to play survivor now so fallen order probably won't have much interest
They’re very different games as speedruns go, I think Fallen Order will still have its place.
Aaaand now survivor has already been beaten in under 40 min😂
i was hoping you would do an update i cant wait for this :)
Playing Jedi Survivor for a bit I was like "this doesn't look that much better than Fallen Order". But man seeing the Fallen Order footage now, OOF. It still looks great, but it's definitely of its era. Even with all the FSR smearing and at medium settings, Survivor is VASTLY improved visually.
I think it’s the UA-cam compression plus the creator not playing on higher settings for frame reasons
This glitch reminds me of Galaxy Droid in KOTOR, does the glitch allow travel to ANY planet, not just Nur? Because if so you may have found a debug state
Karl Jobst breathing heavily
I managed to do big iron in jedi survivor a few weeks ago, cant replicate it though for some reason. maybe fixed by a new patch?
0:53 Surely if glitches are being used then it invalidates the speedrun?
Am I missing something?
Surely when you don't know the difference between Any% Glitched and Any% Glitchless you still can complain
@@MyChannel-cw7rs Not sure what you mean but all I'm saying is if it's a contest based on beating the game as fast as possible then using glitches (cheating) should surely invalidate the whole thing.
If not then what's the point? On the same basis mods could be used to achieve the same things as the glitches and more, or a 100% save game could be downloaded and loaded in minutes. All of the above is cheating, at which point does the line get drawn?
The only 'valid' speed runs are the ones without any form of cheating, including glitches, mods etc.
@@tomburnham6640 bro, you clearly don't know shit about speedrunning. The main category of Fallen Order is Any% Glitched, wich means beat the game asap by using glitches. Also using glitches isn't cheating because you don't use 3rd party programms and you don't change your in-game files. You only use what the game gives you
How is it so much faster on consoles? Is it the cutscene speedup?
Wait they called it air walking instead of skywalking?
This stuff is insane lmao great vid man
its crazy survivor is even more broken than this lol.
Aha! "But if you've seen my channel, let's be honest, you've seen that video"
He never realized youtube might make this video yet ANOTHER video that draws in a bunch of off-channel viewers!
Man i guess you should just turn into a jedi fallen order speedrunning overview channel, apparently the algorithm is eating that shit up lol, because I got recommended this video totally out of left field amongst my more normal recommendeds of programming tutorials, reddit aggregator clickbaiters, falseswipegaming-esque pokemon video essays, and network security cert exam study guides
Lesson learned lol
Is there a distinct reason that the Playstation times are 20 minutes shorter than the PC times?
From what I understood from the video, there is a glitch that super fast-forwards all cutscenes. And the game is very cutscene-heavy especially at the beginning.
Is there a tutorial on how to do the Big Iron glitch somewhere?
1. Put your lightsaber away.
2. As the lightsaber is extinguishing, right as the blade is almost gone, block and dodge at the same time.
@@binksmagnus Ohh sweet thank you so much! I done it a ton on accident before playing casually but never knew how I had did it lol
@@FellixNoAmatsu yeah it was kind of the same with us lol, we’d done it all the time with no idea how it was done or why it was useful
The glitch is basically a wrong warp
Crazy I wonder if default do this stuff on purpose or if it’s just cause and effect
bruh this game looks better than survivor wtf have they done
"i broke the game on purpose, now the game is broken!"
Surprised pikachu face.
Goddamn.
I’ve been looking forward to this
this run is canon to star wars
So you can only speedrun this game on ps5 for the cutscene speed
People can speedrun on whatever platform they want - we separate runs by platform to account for differences like the PS5's fast cutscenes.
Eh. Let me know when this games at sub 10 like dark souls. Then it’ll actually be considered insane. 45 minutes is a substantial amount shorter then the base game played through properly, but it doesn’t compare to a lot of other speed run categories and games.
Please rename these runs to Glitch runs
No. :)
How much spare time do you have jeez
Shout out speedidol!
This really is degenerate
I am impressed sir!
PS5 did it under half an hour btw
I might have even talked about that in the video. Who knows?
@@binksmagnusfor 1 second?
I'll be honest. These are interesting and cool, but watching someone speed run a game glitchless while just dominating the game mechanics is so much more satisfying to me.
K.
Took me 48 hours to beat. Lol
You speedrun lot are really bloody strange.
Yep.
Awful game
Very good
Watching Jedi Fallen Order videos until Respawn fixes the poor ass optimization for Jedi Survivor PC so I can actually enjoy playing it
Elden ring can be completed in like 5 mins, no? Your opening line is out of place
Is the video about Elden Ring? Maybe I got confused and put "Elden Ring" somewhere in the title.
"It's truly a sign that we're ready for a sequel when a game becomes so completely busted that it can be completed in potentionally under a half an hour"
It feels like you were talking about games in general. Not about Fallen Order specifically. Nevertheless, this is a great video, I'm glad I watched it to the end. This is the only thing I didn't like. The problem is, you said it in the first 20 seconds. Right at the end of the attention span of the average viewer.
Lmao this is wild
First
Also who wants to play as a ginger, that's not badass.
I want to play as a ginger. It's a big step for diversity in Star Wars, how many other ginger protagonists have there been?
@@sdsdfdu4437 I agree with the sentiment , just my childish predisposition making the judgment 😂
As a ginger (although with hair loss lol), I just wanna say real quick how much it actually means to me to be able to play as Cal, especially with the customization optins in the sequel. 😊 Not mad at your comment or anything, just wanted to share my perspective ^^
@Crits I do actually appreciate that point of view and can see how that's a positive aspect of the character. I'm just a dick 😂😅
@@allgunsblazed9106 That's fine by me :D
🙂👍
Why is console so much faster?
There’s a glitch on PS5 that speeds up cutscenes. I talk about it a lot in the original WR history video if you’re curious to know more.
Great Video Binks! I'm glad you gave the full context of the mantis glitch. Perfect closure to this game before the sequel XD
Very cool video. Does anyone know why the speedrun timer ends when Cal stabs Vader?
It's the last press of a button you do. After that it's just cutscene 🙂
When the game launched there was no option to disable QTE inputs, so Cal stabbing Vader required an input from the player and was the final button press before credits, so it made sense to stop the timer there. Later when the option to disable QTE inputs was added the timing rules weren’t changed.
Ahh I see
I got a ps5 for an early bday\christmas present and now can play survivor after school on Friday (that when it comes out in Australia)
Another banger video, expected nothing less from you! :D
Jesus! Maybe I should do an any% run now, this looks insane! Great video bro! 💚
can't wait to see how badly jedi survivor gets ruined in the hopes of speedruns lmao
Imagine showing this video to a small Victorian child from the 1800’s and see them combust
This planet fusion glitch seems cool. Wish something similar could be done on God of War Ragnarok. Always been curious what would happen if you went to Asgard post-game.
"I'm not sure what else we could possibly find." How can you say this when we don't even know how the glitch works.
I did a speedrun and finished in 2 days wich means i played few hours per day lol i think that is fast but people beat it in an half hour what. .how
Wait, so you're telling me I went all the way through Jedi Fallen order with only 2 stims when in reality I could have gotten more than 2???
I got the big iron glitch in Survivor yesterday. Idk exactly how I triggered it but it was when I was hopping on and off of a Neko.
This is just gonna end up like Sekiro speedruns all over again. ( Sekiro recently for a sub 19minute )
I’ve had this happen to me multiple times over the past few years, I never knew what brought it on, I just thought it was cool tho
Is there a UA-cam vid that explains in depth planet fusion? It might just be the coolest thing I have ever seen.
How do u win without slow pull or double saber and other stuff u need
They have slow and you don’t need anything else if you play it right or *GeT gOoD.*
Wow, fusing planets together by glitching the hyperspace loads is one of the coolest glitches ive seen in a while
“Use a glitch to skip order 66” if only the Jedi has thought of that
Is that some Metroid dread background music in a Star Wars video?
It looks so cool, it looks like you’re transporting a planet in hyperspace
i beat it in 4 hours on accident really the point is to explore even more so in survivor
So is the only difference between the 45 on PC and the 29s on PS5 the cutscene skip/fast forward?
Pretty much.