Defense against a Takedown on the Street
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2009
- An opponent charges you, grabs your legs, lifts you up and slams you into the ground. From there, he can mount you and rain down punches, or just kick you non-stop before you get a chance to recover.
In this video, Nick will show you several ways to protect yourself against this move. Big guys are especially fond of this takedown, but what Nick teaches in the clip will work well with any attacker.
Remember - you want to intercept a takedown as soon as possible. Ideally - before the opponent has a chance to grab you. When the guy charges you, push into his shoulders with your forearms - not your palms (they can slip off)! Push back towards him and slightly down, to keep your balance and break the attacker's momentum. Alternatively, as you push back, step aside to direct the opponent away from you.
Now, if he does grab you, immediately counter with a neck crank. Turn his head to the side or way back, so the attacker loses balance and his momentum dissipates completely. This works even if he has already lifted you off the ground. Crank his neck, punch him in the throat, put your fingers into his eyes - do whatever it takes to interrupt the takedown.
If the opponent goes for a very low grab, you can direct him into the ground and pull a shirt over his head, as Nick demonstrates. From there, you can easily push him away or try to knock the guy out.
As you can see, despite how scary this takedown is, there are several great ways to defend against it in the street. Even if your attacker is bigger then you, by re-directing his momentum you can stay on your feet and fight back - which is all that matters!
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Nice vid. This is one of the most common moves I've seen at the start of a fight. Many people automatically go for the tackle for some reason and I believe learning a defense against it is a must.
I'm a classically trained boxer, with pretty good footwork, pretty fast and solid punches, but trying to maintain technique in a street fight is hard because the other person will always want to grab me by my shirt, or whatever the case may be. These videos certainly helped me get a better understanding in what to do in those situations! Thanks! Even though I'm an amateur boxer, this stuff really helped out.
Same
I love this channel. realistic scenarios.
***** Maybe you'll see this, maybe not. Have you ever looked back at some of your older videos and noticed something you disagree with? Not saying there's anything wrong with the ones I've seen.
This guy is a great teacher, and I like that he checks on his boy and ask him if he's ok after all the scenario.Thanks for these videos, very cool.
[No takedowns were attempted that day]
For real though bro wtf?
Step 1. Don’t listen to a guy wearing cargo pants at the gym
Your videos really helped me! I got ina fight a couple of days ago and he's been bullying me since 4th grade. I'm in 8th grade now. But i won and used his body language to know when he was going to punch. I also used this technique in the video and it helped. Thanks alot man!.
Dude your videos are awesome... very practical and not the other fancy bs other videos have... neck crank and face strikes are more realistic and effective than others moves... great vid
Nick thank you...this help me recently against a bully I remember picking this up from your video...much respect
YOu have some good stuff. This is legit street fighting techniques not cage or sport.
wahneeota Cage fighters are still the best on the street
Wrestler- Kickboxer its better to learn something like muay thai first and then to train bjj
@@rover5058 yeah
Wrestler kickboxer
The street has no rules. The cage does.
"If he grabs both legs, you're pretty much fucked, you're hitting the ground" Lol
young Nick here. Thanks for your work over the years!
My favorite part of your videos is you use more real energy and techniques that will actually work. Anytime I see someone in a karategi or some equivalent martial arts uniform I know it's going to be (mostly) idealized bullcrap. This is real stuff and I love it. Keep the vids coming, brother.
You also can elbow your opponent's back of the head or his neck.
Keyboard Gladiator
I agree with you.Elbow to the head , spine or back of the neck is the best defence against a low take down. Real self defence has no rules. Take downs are effective in MMA fights because of the rules against hitting the back of the neck, spine etc. In the street such low take downs can get you killed.
@@JackBlair2008 agreed, also, you can lean forward and grab the back of their belt/pants waist band to prevent them from causing you to fall backwards. Also you get the benefit of them possibly losing their balance and falling face first with your weight on top of them.
Keyboard Gladiator that wont stop them t
Thanks.
It's really dangerous to do this type of takedown since you're effectively breaking line of sight from above you. This won't go unnoticed by an expert.
Thank you..this the type of stuff I was looking for.
Really useful stuff. I'm presently learning how to defend against takedowns and tackles with my martial art (wing chun), and find this to be a great addition. The head twist is great stuff.
thank you for the video Nick i just hit the sub button.
this seems like a great defense that could possibly work for anybody regardless of size. would much prefer doing this vs hoping my legs or weight don't give in!
Pay attention, people.This is how to do it. Drossos is schooling y'all.
If you have superior skills you can get fancy with strikes to the head and eye-gouges, maybe even trapping... but Drossos' teaches the maximum chance failsafe works-every-time move... so that is what you should do.
Kicks and knees might work.. but then they might just get you dumped on the ground. Your choice.
I have only watched 3 of your vids so far and I am totally impressed. Great work. Thank you!
@creativecombats When they go to tackle can you underhook there arms and then knee them in the chest and use your weight to take them down?
Another great video. Getting the jump on what their doing by reacting fast enough and let them come into your arms.
@creativecombats When they go to tackle can you underhook there arms and then knee them in the chest and use your weight to take tehm down?
Just wondering what you used when you were picked up by both legs (and what was the result) - neck crack, eye gouge, throat, ear slap?
Great video thanks.
@ Nick Drossos Defensive Tactics: I've seen more people taken down by way of being more squared up as opposed to you blading yourself with your rear leg back at: 03:00. I've seen a Kenpoist (sparring with ground fighter) just angle off/pivot every time the grappler would try and change angles on him with the single leg takedown attempt (the ground fighter having a hold on his front leg). Would you agree with this stance or do you think it's just a matter of training your mind to see movement, squared up or not? I ask bc I also notice traditional striking schools don't train or haven't upgraded their defense to the shoot and takedown.
I like this one! I'm going to practice it with my friend thanks!
where did you find this scissor bill?
are there any places in Toronto that I can take this type of training? I've been a bouncer for 14 years and it would be good to always sharpen my skills. awesome videos!
Excellent!
in the second situation ,how could it work if the opponent does not have t-shirt ?
can you show it some way ?
I miss these Nick! lots of content!
I will be making many new video!
Thanks
Sprawl + guillotine = profit. Untrained fighters would never see a guillotine coming while attempting a takedown.
Having a good sprawl is the best defense of these kinds of takedowns. Regardless of your style, Karate, Jui Jitsu, Wrestling, Muay Tai, you should practice sprawling and learn to do it effectively.
You think mr dorros has done any MMA or BJJ or wrestling ??? What do you think?
Unfortunately a situation like this happened to me before and I froze up because I didn't know what the law was in regards to self defense. Luckily I didn't get injured but now I know that I can protect myself while de-escalating the situation at the same time
Finally a move to defend against the common take down move
r these techniques something u came up with? very impressive.
You have some good info Nick. Just a quick question. Were you in some of rich dimitri's senshido dvd's ? , you look familiar.
I've always used my leverage, their momentum against them, and my elbows to defend. If the guy is bigger/heavier, if i can, i stay lower using my knees-elbows to force him to glance off me.... almost like running through a line like a running back
this is nice, the neck crank is very very dangerous. it can possibly paralyze or even kill. the 1st neck crank puts him down, a sharp snap in the opposite direction can be fatal
Realistic and simple 🙏
Good video clip as always! Myself I like the sprawl because if the opponent is very good and fast the sprawl works most of the time and the opponent will not get a grip on your legs. But in the streets you must get up as quickly as you can after your sprawl. But can you intercept as you show on the videoclip thats fine. Thank you!
this guy is a real fighter, he may look skinny but his tactics and skill is crazy
thanks for the vid
growing up and now the take down is always implemented by someone
and now I know an effective defense against it thanks man
This is not effective!! I’ve wrestled for 4 years and currently train bjj and can tell you it’s bs I don’t want anyone getting hurt doing bs they find on UA-cam that’s why I hate Chanel’s like these look up wrestling sprawls and see how to actually counter a takedown. But I suggest you practice a few times before being confident enough to do in a street fight
Another reason you can tell it’s bs is bc he said it’s okay if they get one leg 😭 with one leg can get you a single leg,high crotch and set up a sweap while both legs only set up a double leg takedown
"ooh shit" 😂😂😂 1:00
Nice sir
Heh... Puma tee guy looks kind of like Ice Cube. It gave me the giggles throughout this vid.
Good work, regardless.
Great no BS tips, again for everyone saying a trained fighter would feint etc. this is for facing an average person on the street
That's why I Practice Sprawls These days,
Bravo
Bow to your sensei. BOW TO YOUR SENSEI!
🤣
He could just hit an outside single and chase your knee or shelf it. And what do you mean its not that bad if he gets one leg? I assume this is if the person is not good at taking shots. Plus why do you block with your forearms, he could get underneath you real fast.
as he said, the lower you go the easier to push/hit your face into the ground. Strikes behind the ear are not sport legal but all good for low shoots on the street.
LOL. You was whoopin his ass the whole time.
I love how this is real
1:00 "OH SHIT" lol
cant u just sprawl? great video but i am just curious if u prefer this over the standered sprawl
because you want to stay on your feet in a real fight.
@creativecombats
Once you control the head coming at you, you can do whatever you want... Nice work again, Nick.
Nice. From there you can push the person away using the neck and strike the opponent in the throat or eyes. He wont try to take you down again after that.
What If your attacker is faster that you
Y'all talking shit where it's not needed. Not everybody is a wrestling champion ya know? I think @Nick Drossos has good advice for takedown defense. I wish he would emphasis the sprawl a little more but I could see this working. I will for sure out this into my training. I like how you had your students show the techniques again. Very good video Nick. I'm never disappointed.
Most experienced fighters/grapplers/wrestlers will setup a takedown and "drive through you" . Also that dude has a really "weak" neck. Most wrestlers can lift you with their neck strength. Just saying... Still something to think about.
Did you guys ever train with Tony Blauer?
I have no idea why i havnt sub'd. I just did. Hey Nick, where is your school located? Id like to check it out one day, when i can travel again. Jeet Kune Do philosophy makes me want to learn useful moves.
***** Thanks for responding! I will.
nice
1:25 what do you do if hes not wearing a t-shirt?
Pull his neck
Nice you need to buy him a new t-shirt now
Your videos really helped me. i got a in a fight and won. Rumor went around saying im trained and had a black belt in blah blah blah. But anyways thanks though.
"just put my hands here" IF you see it coming!!!
Why not sprawl?
@russsiankid530 clearly if he attacks first its self defense and still legal
As someone who has wrestled for years and currently does bjj I can confirm this is bs first he said if you get one leg it’s not that bad having one leg can get you a single leg, high Kroch, and set up a leg sweap while 2 legs can only get you a double leg. I don’t want anyone getting hurt trying to do bs so look up wrestling sprawls is you rlly wanna know but I advise you practice. And also why would you listen to wrestling/grappling advice from a boxer 😭
could I see this from a wrestlers perspective? Not to say this is not effective, but the guys i deal with in my gym have lightning fast takedowns. by the time i touch them i'm on the mat.
@machinehead110 also have 10 years martial art experience. wrestlers have lightning quick takedowns bro, and are very very accomplished athletes, many people overlook the importance of conditioning with martial arts. anyone there are lots of takedowns that don't involve slamming your knee into the pavement. even good singles, and double legs don't. especially greco roman wrestler who arn't even allowed to grab the legs in matches.
If, God forbid, the attacker does get a grip on you or even lift you up another really effective instant finisher is the double ear slap. Slap both ears at once or slap one while covering the other earhole. He will be stunned for at least a moment and you can finish him easy.
thought so
Who else got the hey Siri 😂 1:20
i can also sprawl and go for a guilleteen :)
True Greek right here.
Alexander The Great is looking down on you with pride my friend.
I try
Nice videos! This is my fifth video. I feel bad for the mexicano tho hahaha.
yh when me and my mates are fooling around, if they go for a tackle you can move your bodyweight over them, thus dropping there upper body and head, so its easy to go for a guillotine. But thats just from messing around ina real situation if you see the opportunity go for it - you want to end the fight as quickly as possible, don't drag it out like you're an MMA fighter (:
There's a cluster if nerves under the nose, just a reminder 👩💻
I love this type of shit
That handshake was nevr completed :L
If he's low enough can't you go for a Guillotine choke? And maybe if you're not fighting 2 people you could just pull him into your guard.
too bad i have a single leg hehe
great video, prepares you for the real world.
Dont forget about biting.
If your facing a real powerful guy it's gonna take more than a neck crank to stop him from executing a takedown lol
so the strength of a strong man's neck is more than the focused wrench by a determined person's whole core, waist, legs and arms? Me thinks not. Try it... oh, now you know the problem with training real fighting moves... they maim and kill. No protective equipment that works exists for the neck vs a crank.
There are other defences... the eye gouge... the ear slap. No power needed to fuck up giants. MMA sucks.
I'm really confused as to where you are going with that comment lol.
larry wright
Sorry... nothing wrong with my English. Try harder, I guess.
Shaddup with your broken ass English hahahahahaha
larry wright
not my fault you are too stupid to read. I will reword it in words maybe simple enough for even you to understand. Here we go. Are you ready?
Whole body of little person stronger than neck of big person.
Got it yet, dumbass?
@creativecombats YES! I'm Filipino and get called Mexican all the time. But little do they know that Filipinos are quite scrappy
You could control the guy better if you have at least one underhook. If you can of course.
@murkleman6 Most of the people fighting on the street doesnt know shit about fighting, they just know stand up game thats all, most of the people who train something doesnt start fights on the street because they know what they are capable of.
what about the guillotine?
the phillipino disliked the video lol!
Why wouldn't you just sprawl?????
Not everyone can do that. This is street mentality
@creativecombats i wouldn't call a sprawl totally going to the ground, you stil on the base of the balls of your feet. If theres tons of guys, wouldn't they be clamoring on you the minute he ties you up anyway. plus if he has no friends or alies, whos there to stomp?
Love the channel but it would be better to use people who know how to do a proper take down.
are you greek?
bravo file eisai polu kalos go on
Have you ever used the windex technique?
I'M KIDDING, I HAVE GREEK FRIENDS!
Besides, I know you would break me like a dish if you wanted to.
IT'S A JOKE...
Actually Nick, great videos. Very practical. Thank you.
None of that would ever work. Because to stop a tackle your arms gotta be above theirs. Which will never ever happen. They always go for the tackle into a bear hug. They always aim for the chest between the collar bone and biceps.
If someone doesn't then the tackle probably wont work unless they are trained.
So if someone does it you wont see them in advance. You wont be able to get your arms up. They'll probably standing clinch your arms against your chest or worse, on the ground. And also be in another weight class above you.
The odds it will be a judo slam versus a normal takedown are like 90% because the goal is to slam your skull against the rocky ground. Not gain a strategic position.
If you could just do this, cops would never be able to catch any badguys. They'd all be mma champs. But brute force that is beyond you will be what you face and this will break your fingers against a drunk us marine. You will get mugged from a giant crook with or without a gun.
Unless they are at your weight class or below. Which will never happen on the streets then. None of this can stop a takedown.
I mean if someone in your weight class or below does it. Sure this is great. Just a bit of competition.
But what will actually happen is you pull up in a kia forte and some dude in a nissan armada fn slams into you and completely totals your day. Your strategy is completely useless now. Your head has struck the pavement, you're now in the icu.
those are the worst attempting takedowns i think i have ever seen
Cross face him