Philip II and the curious case of Magdalena Ruiz

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  • @IntoThePast
    @IntoThePast  3 роки тому +23

    The information presented in this video is only possible thanks to the work and dedication of academics and researchers. Therefore they take full credit for it. You can access the sources used in the making of this video in the description
    Thank you for watching and don't forget to like and subscribe!
    Did you enjoyed meeting Magdalena? Let me know in the comments!

    • @genevievevavance3122
      @genevievevavance3122 3 роки тому +6

    • @beth7935
      @beth7935 3 роки тому +3

      Yes! She sounds like such a character- I love the idea of this little old lady being sassy to the king! :D From what I've learned about the English court tho, jesters like Magdalena- sort of stand-up comedians- & other skilled entertainers, were more common than those with physical or mental disabilities, or mental illnesses (it's good to distinguish between the last 2, btw.) I'm not sure, but I sort of got the impression from this vid that it was the opposite in Spain?

    • @IntoThePast
      @IntoThePast  3 роки тому +2

      @@beth7935 its hard to tell bacause documentation its not always clear about it and sometimes its even contradictory like in the case of Magdalena.
      I am happy you liked the vídeo 👍

    • @beth7935
      @beth7935 3 роки тому +2

      @@IntoThePast Oh of course; most court jesters were pretty obscure- I suspect there aren't many like Magdalena, that we have a fair bit of info about, but I'm not sure, & yeah- it's often hard to find all the info & documentation you'd like on a monarch, much less a jester!

    • @rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913
      @rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913 2 роки тому +1

      Great work!

  • @nikkigriffin08
    @nikkigriffin08 3 роки тому +10

    I am a giant history 'nerd,' I took all AP history classes in HS, would always choose history electives in college when I went for my teaching degree, and am getting ready to go back to school in the Spring to get a Bachelor's Degree in History, and hopefully go all the way through to get my PHD. In the meantime, while i'm not in school or working, I watch a LOT of history documentaries and short videos, but over the past year or so i've found it increasingly difficult to find any such videos on historical topics that I don't already know about in at least a vague, basic manner. So thank you for this video because it definitely ticked all my boxes...1. historically accurate information 2. info on a person & life that I didn't know anything about and 3. actually interesting and presented well (as I can often find videos on specific historical battles or similar subjects that idk, but they tend to be extremely boring). I hope that your channel grows swiftly and you continue to make a1 quality videos :)

  • @LariLesque
    @LariLesque 3 роки тому +11

    I had heard of her but couldn't think from where until I saw the portrait. Just the sort of content I enjoy.

  • @jayphg
    @jayphg 3 роки тому +15

    Another great video. Very happy you got rid of the punctual tocs and dings to present items and facts. It now rolls seamlessly in a more cohesive edit. Hope your channel grows.

  • @Pam1_2
    @Pam1_2 3 роки тому +12

    I love the video it’s rich in history. I’m a history buff and love reading on the kings and queens of Britain and the hapsburgs. I’ve always found it fascinating.

  • @Belinda8881
    @Belinda8881 3 роки тому +9

    Great video. I enjoyed every minute of it !

  • @annfisher3316
    @annfisher3316 3 роки тому +8

    Excellent videos, very interesting! 👍👏

  • @reniasva
    @reniasva 3 роки тому +5

    Extremely interesting video. Thank you for the work!

  • @h.l.asolomonov7674
    @h.l.asolomonov7674 3 роки тому +12

    He was so open minded for his era

  • @firstlast5068
    @firstlast5068 3 роки тому +6

    Great video!

  • @salvadorarruda4664
    @salvadorarruda4664 3 роки тому +5

    Great video, super interesting

  • @sygrid29
    @sygrid29 3 роки тому +11

    It is where my country filipinas got its name in honor of king philip of spain.

  • @daya820
    @daya820 Рік тому +3

    I found this documentary very interesting, revealing lots of details of the life of kings and their corta and family.

  • @truthlove1114
    @truthlove1114 3 роки тому +3

    Enjoyed this very much

  • @sophiegoarin2903
    @sophiegoarin2903 3 роки тому +2

    c'est passionnant ! merci

  • @KevinLopez-pu7ll
    @KevinLopez-pu7ll Рік тому +4

    All Philip had to do was wait 4 or 5 more years until the armada was completely restored and for the french religious war to end and he could’ve easily took England. This is why patience is the most important key for the power.

    • @BobUikder-ig4uq
      @BobUikder-ig4uq 5 місяців тому

      That would have been amazing. Philip was a glorious king. Elizabeth was a trashy nutter

    • @antonexx
      @antonexx 3 місяці тому +1

      Had he listen to his brother Don Juan of Austria, they would have gone much earlier

  • @GreatGreebo
    @GreatGreebo 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent video

  • @MJ13ish
    @MJ13ish 3 роки тому +10

    It’s interesting that the Spanish royal family itself had a history of madness and deformity

  • @giuseppelogiurato5718
    @giuseppelogiurato5718 3 роки тому +7

    At first I was like, "oh! What kind of Spanish accent is that?"... After a few minutes, I'm pretty sure he's not Spanish... Maybe Portuguese or Brazilian? (I'm used to Mexican Spanish, so even proper Castilian sounds odd to me.)
    "Magdalena Ruíz" is not a strange name, but it sounds exotic and foreign when he says it; "Maghthalene Rruízh"... Not that he's pronouncing it incorrectly; I'm just thinking in the wrong language/dialect...
    Great video! Looking forward to checking out the channel 👍

    • @IntoThePast
      @IntoThePast  3 роки тому +4

      thank you
      i am portuguese btw

  • @Pam1_2
    @Pam1_2 3 роки тому +8

    I’ve always been curious . I know the hapsburg jaw was a deformity. I’m well acquainted with whose who in the hapsburg royalty. I know Philip and juanna children were born with the hapsburg jaw but I have a question. Were Philip and juanna related? It was their son Charles v and his siblings had the deformity But I’d like to know with who it began.?

    • @IntoThePast
      @IntoThePast  3 роки тому +4

      Juanna the mad or Juanna of Austria?

    • @Pam1_2
      @Pam1_2 3 роки тому +3

      @@IntoThePast hi thanks for replying yes juanna the mad. i know juanna the mad married philip the handsome. and i guess my question is why did their children all end up with the hapsburg jaw. i was wondering if her and her husband were related?

    • @Pam1_2
      @Pam1_2 3 роки тому +1

      @@IntoThePast juanna the mad

    • @IntoThePast
      @IntoThePast  3 роки тому +11

      @@Pam1_2 They were related, but not directly, it was a very distant connection. Joanna descended from the house of Trastamara, the house of Aragon and the house of Aviz. As far as i am aware it was Philip the handsome who introduced the Habsburg jaw in Ibéria. But although all is children had it, some manifested it more than others. Charles v had a very proeminent jaw but its sister Catherine didnt.
      What all the Habsburgs did, was use this facial feature as a symbol of dynastic identity.

    • @Pam1_2
      @Pam1_2 3 роки тому +3

      @@IntoThePast thanks that’s very interesting. I thought maybe it had come from philips side. Cause I know Isabella and Ferdinand of spain didn’t have it ( juannas parents) I love all this history I’m 54 now but I’ve been fascinated reading about kings and queens since I was 12. I know all the british ones and the hapsburgs. I know the hapsburgs did a lot of intermarriage in the family. Well I’m enjoying all your videos. I’m going to watch your new one you posted today. The sleeping with the enemy one.

  • @genevievevavance3122
    @genevievevavance3122 3 роки тому +5

    Loved Magdalena 😁😇😅

  • @savagedarksider5934
    @savagedarksider5934 2 роки тому +2

    Great Video. I bet Mary Tudor would rolling in her grave discovering Philip didn't really love her.

    • @ladyv5655
      @ladyv5655 Рік тому +1

      I think she knew. He proposed to her sister, Elizabeth, after her death, but he didn't love her either. He just wanted to hold on to England.

  • @TeddyClipper53
    @TeddyClipper53 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you. This was very informative. Where can I find out more information about the buffoon of the young Phillip II. I believe his last name was De la Cruz and who was the artist that painted his portrait and where can it be found?

  • @marcoabreo6506
    @marcoabreo6506 3 роки тому +2

    Esta es mi Cumbia!!

  • @MagdaleneDivine
    @MagdaleneDivine 3 роки тому

    My language skills are not ...me not have good words

  • @nazlsenay7312
    @nazlsenay7312 10 місяців тому

    ....

  • @MagdaleneDivine
    @MagdaleneDivine 3 роки тому +1

    Yeah so cool content bruh
    ....but in medieval times they kept weirdos as like pets in courts it was actually considered a kindness. They didn't have like hospitals or schools or places for the odd ones. They were seen as a burden cause its another mouth to feed that can't contribute to the family.
    And it was usually one of their subjects or serfs or whatever by word of mouth and took them in. I mean these oddballs would need clothing in weird sizes and attention
    It was their good deed and the oddballs would have been getting stated at or made targets.

  • @ChristianThePagan
    @ChristianThePagan 3 роки тому +13

    People can try to paint a big smiley on Phillip II but in N-Europe he's always going to be seen as a monster in the light of what the did to the Netherlands.

    • @xav96
      @xav96 3 роки тому +3

      not to mention the genocides in the americas.. no spanish monarch before 1900 is exempt

    • @ChristianThePagan
      @ChristianThePagan 3 роки тому +3

      @@xav96 True, the guy was one the renaissances most frightening examples of a psychopath. Machiavelli would have loved Philip.

    • @ChristianThePagan
      @ChristianThePagan 3 роки тому +6

      If the man was such a saint, a latter day St. Francis of Assisi, and what he did in the Netherlands was such an exemplary display of human kindness you'd expect the Netherlands to still be a Spanish possession and the Dutch to revere Phillip II a saint (hint: they don't). Phillip was a pretty typical religiously fanatical Catholic reactionary who thought that any problem could be solved with bestial brutality. He was wrong about that. I've seen a whole bunch of reactions of rulers to rebellions during the period and they pale by comparison to the Spanish reaction in the Netherlands. Normally ringleaders would be hung and privileges taken away. What the Duke of Alva and his maniac son did, with Phillip's approval, in the Netherlands as standard practice, slaughtering the inhabitants of entire towns for the crime of not being Catholic was not the norm. There is a special place in hell for Phillip II, Alva and his sadistic son Fadrique.

    • @rheinhartsilvento2576
      @rheinhartsilvento2576 3 роки тому +1

      @@fedevida1951 The atrocious activities of the Duke of Alba - the emissary of King Philip II- do not need "Protestant propaganda " to be true.
      They are facts, noted in the annals of history and very well known and found shocking in traditionally very Catholic Belgium, aka the Spanish Netherlands.
      And your example of Catholics not being allowed public worship or public office in the United Provinces (the Netherlands) is supposed to....prove what exactly...?
      After the the dirty and cruel war fought by the Catholic Habsburg government on the Protestants, using every possible means, a government many times as powerful as the tiny recently liberated country,, are you seriously telling me you're surprised the United Provinces enacted laws to contain and control any possibility of a Catholic power-grab through proselytizing, infiltration of government offices and armed coups?
      If you find these policies - a measure of self-protection if there ever was one - inappropriate, then you must be very, very disingenuous and naive indeed.
      Sure - King Philip very possibly had very positive human characteristics and accomplishments.
      Nevertheless, the role he and his government played in the nirthern and southern Netherlands was one of repression, oppression and atrocity - the role of a tyrant.
      That's his story.

    • @notbill08
      @notbill08 3 роки тому

      @@rheinhartsilvento2576 @Fede Vida - you both hated and persecuted us Jews. Can we call it a day? ✌🏻🇮🇱

  • @KittymoreJoy
    @KittymoreJoy 5 місяців тому

    I suppose what you judge is the meaning of refinement. I think he was a much darker personality with rather cruel obsessions of piety and over inflated sense of self. He was limited in kindness and self truth. I pity the women forced it marry men they had nothing in comman . Yes, the throne is a lonely place, but cruelty, betrayal of others and trusting no one is a lesson he learned well from his father, who believed these were traits that a king must have and himself ruled by.

    • @BobUikder-ig4uq
      @BobUikder-ig4uq 4 місяці тому +2

      you spent too much time learning a small, anglicized Protestant propaganda version of Spanish history. I suppose if you only speak English, it’s easy to fall into that trap . However the Americans who only learn about Tudor and English history get a very inaccurate and one sided image of continental history and politics. Bc of the source

    • @KittymoreJoy
      @KittymoreJoy 4 місяці тому

      @@BobUikder-ig4uq Really? People have not changed in behaviour, Ambition, Greed, Self- importance and Power Politics have not changed either. Power has the ability to corrupt a moral man. An amoral man just gets worse, That is fact of history. These men devised caste systems, turned marriage from a freely entered Commitment of Friendship, Mutual Respect, Honor and Faithfulness to a mere Business transaction that viewed Women as a paid for womb, and sex slave. Parents pimped their daughters to the rich and powerful because they wanted more power that they did not have to work for, more glory. How is that kind?? Children viewed as disposable pawns in a deadly chess game that losing could mean death? Whether at the hands of an abusive man, in-laws or childbirth , Women suffered, children suffered and men did too, but refused to change the laws and rules because it benefited them in their minds. Human nature has not changed in the dark depths to which a Soul can sink too to make the Universe cry out at the suffering inflicted. Or rise above the accepted politics of do unto others whatever the Hell You Want and make the lives of others better- becoming that Beacon shine the way across Stormy Seas. We all make a Choice about Morality or no Morality to guide us. King or Beggar. That is a Fact of life and the consequences of our Choices. Sad to think no one taught you that. I pity you, accuse me all you like, I will stand to the Death for my Convictions of the Laws of Morality , the Almighty has placed us under as is his Right as Creator of his Ultimate Creation- Us. Some much so that one Angel became jealous of humanity and started a War where 1/3 of the Angels turned against their Creator and followed Lucifer ( that name once meant Beautiful Morning Star). What is the quote” I would rather Rule in Hell than serve in Heaven”. Quite apt . Have a Blessed Day of gratitude for the ones who love you and for the good things you have. If you have a pet, give them a treat and hug for me. If you need a hug , I will send the Universe a hug your way. We may disagree but caring about another is above that. And as my late Dad used to say when as a child, after a story about his childhood- he was quite the little stinker, he would say” close your eyes and think good thoughts- but don’t let the bedbugs tickle your toes. I thought that is what bedbugs did until I learned they were nasty littler critters that bit you. I was astonished that my Dad fibbed about that. Perhaps, it was because he had gone through that as a child of 14 when his step- father through him out to survive on his own. We visited him and Mutti every week. It was only shortly before his death, did I learn of my grandfather’s cruel and selfish nature. I was so angry that my Dad had been treated that way, I told Dad I would not go to his funeral. My Dad looked at me and said’” It happened to me not you, I have forgiven him, it is the past. He loved you very much , and you need to honor that Love by going to his funeral. I went, still very angry young teen who did not understand fully my Father’s attitude. I did come to understand the concept of Forgiveness to those who hurt me, practicing it was much harder but my Father life of showing Honor to his step-father, his kindness to others he came into contact with was a major stepping stone in my growth and maturity. I am so thankful for his laughter, April Fools pranks, his love and discipline cause I was the one who always wanted my own way and pushed the line. I will be the first to admit that I can be selfish , still learning that lesson among others in the Fall of my life. I was indeed blessed with parents who prayed daily for me to learn to Trust GOD for what I needed, not want I may have wanted. Though I have failed GOD many times, He has not failed me in my darkest trials. He brought many pets to enrich my life, people too. Hard to say goodbye to those we love. My Mom is 100 years and daily reminds GOD he has lived a good life, she is tired and wanting to come home. It was hard when Dad went but I am not ready to see my Mom leave me, sorry getting weepy so I will bid you a great day

  • @pisco1964
    @pisco1964 3 роки тому

    Good video but you speak to fast, try to improve the pronunciation