Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 vs Asymmetric 2 - Tested and Reviewed
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2017
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As one of the best reviewed tyres on tyre reviews, we thought the natural competition for the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 ultra high performance tyre was the very well regarded predecessor.
We placed both the Asymmetric 3 and 2 through all the usual wet handling and braking, dry handling and braking, noise and comfort and aquaplaning tests using a VW Golf GTI and here's what we found.
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Really good info. Answered all of my questions!
+RGBGFIVE thanks :)
Great review, thanks for taking the time to do this for all of us around the world to enjoy and learn from.
Regards Ben
Thank you! You're welcome
Excelent info, thanks! Just ordered a set for my E92 330i which has been grounded for half a year. Can't wait to take her for a spin and see how these tyres perform.
Let me know how you get on with them :)
Last summer I buy asymmetric 3, before that I used bridgestone potenza and they were like a magnet! Same thing with F1 asym3, they are 100% bonded with the road, feeling so secure with them, and yes, you can drive with them to the limits. And big + they are not so expensive.
On wet they are also great.
I recommend them to everyone.
My car is bmw e90,in dimensions 225-45-17. Perfect tyre!
Glad you're enjoying the Asymmetric 3 :)
Hey ! Hello from russia ! I have e90 335xi to, and think to buy it !)
antehr1 I am looking at new tyres for my MK7 VW Golf R. I thought about Eagle F1 3’s, but have heard a few people saying the sidewalks are really soft and the handling becomes a little dull, like driving on marshmallows.... hoping it’s not that bad? 🤔
are you using the runflats?
@@m88brc get the ps4s
Just ordered a set of two GE F1 GS D3 FP's. Already mounted them on the rear axle last year and immediately noticed the much better turn-in and less resistance in the steeringwheel from the tires compared to Nankang NS-2's i drove before. Although on the highway i díd appreciated the more counter pressure in the steeringwheel coming from the tires in corners from the NS-2's in comparison to the GS D3 which feel more light and nimble, which is fun on B-roads, but makes you feel like you're ''floating'' on higher speeds. But maybe that changes ones the tires on the front axle are changed as well somewhere this week.
It would be interesting to see comparisons between different tyres on the same brand like Continental Sport, Premium and Eco so we can see if we really need the Sport for our needs or maybe go for a cheaper tyre.
I'll add it to the video list :)
Have had the asymmetric 2’s for nearly 4yrs nearly 16000 miles & still about 4mm of trad left even with some very spirited driving & 200 bhp through the front wheels of a car Wright only 1200kg.
very good tyre good wear comfort good grip in all conditions except the worst snow the only thing I hope they have improved is the resistance to punctures especially in the side walls which are very soft.
Great review will definitely be buying asymmetric 3’s in the future.
That's great wear! The A4 is due Jan 2018 so if they last long enough you might get to go straight to the A4
when asymmetric 4 will be available ?
@@19784051 Learn to read smh
This is summer tire, you need winter tire if when you live where snow falls in the winter.
I love watching your videos.. So informative...
I have a quick question though which I've been struggling to get an answer for over the web. I drive a Genesis g80 RWD which came with stock Dunlop SP Sport Maxx and I do not like the side walling issues I've been facing with them. Makes me feel like I'm driving over marbles on high speeds.
Would you recommend alternatives to them? I'm looking for comfortable Tyres and I've landed on the assym 3s. 5s aren't readily available here in Dubai. Any help or direction would be greatly helpful
Asym 5 or PS4S
have had asymmetric 3 on the rear of my c63 for a couple of months now, so much better than my old yokohamas. the grip is unreal, throws me back and feels like a different car!
Glad you're enjoying them :)
Really love these reviews. I've had both tyres, currently using the Asymmetric 3's, but strangely enough my experiences have been exactly the opposite. Where in this review it was mentioned that the feedback through the steering wheel is better on the 3's, I think it has become slightly worse. The Asymmetric 2's felt harder, gave a little bit more feeling in the steering wheel and it felt like they were biting into the asphalt a little bit more. The Asymmetric 3's on the other hand feel softer, more comfortable. When pushing them in corners I find it a bit harder to know where the limit is, it feels a bit more numb. The limit might be further on the 3's though.
The best comparison I could give is that the Asymmetric 2's feel like, when using the exact same tyre size, as a slightly flatter tyre. I've used both in the size 215/45/17, but with a blind test the Asymmetric 3's feel more like 215/55/17. And it's certainly not a bad thing, for day to day use a more comfortable ride is certainly a plus.
Interesting! Were both tyres at the same pressures and the same load rating?
+Haksdo2 I definitely second your opinion. I was on the A2s and it was time for me to change tyres and they didn't stock the A2s anymore but instead the A3s. I read the reviews and found the A3s to have some marginal improvements on all the categories so I went ahead with it. I recall also reading other reviews where some people found A2s provided better road feedback like yourself and I also felt the same immediately after the tyres are installed. I think the A3s is generally more compliant and slightly quieter but A2s had better steering feedback.
I’ve also read ratings and most of them listed the 2 as better with grip but worse with fuel economy
Haksdo2 I am looking at new tyres for my MK7 VW Golf R. I thought about Eagle F1 3’s, but have heard a few people saying the sidewalks are really soft and the handling becomes a little dull, like driving on marshmallows.... hoping it’s not that bad? 🤔
Every car will respond differently to tyres as well. Just experiment and find out what works best for you
Nice review, I currently drive a 2017 wrx. Fantastic all round car, the tyres that came with the car are sport maxx rt Dunlop. It does feel like these tyres are to hard a compound. The grip is great in the dry but wet grip does not feel to great. Also it aquaplanes! ???? What is your opinion on these.
+geza96 the rt2 is a very similar tyre to the a3 and also a very good tyre!
Replaced my Asymmetric 2's to the front of my MK7 GTI with Asymmetric 3 five weeks ago and then I realised just how noisy my rear tyres were in comparison. Now changed the rears to Asymmetric 3 and for me the comfort and noise levels have dramatically improved. I realise the Asymmetric 2's on the rear had some saw-toothing that contributed to the noise but I do believe the new tyres are a great improvement over its predecessors irrespective of saw-toothing. Highly recommend using these tyres. In 21k miles I am now on my 3rd set of tyres not because the tyres were badly worn but simply in search of a better, quieter and more comfortable tyre.
Glad you're enjoying the tyres :)
I noticed the 3 got noisy as they wore, i think the supporting cores are harder, get exposed as they wear.
Good to get this kind of info on tires. I've enjoyed the last couple you've done.
Since I'll be in the market at some point in the near future I'd like to see your opinion on an All Terrain tire with rugged aggressive style like the Wrangler that has both longevity (10 ply) and quiet decibels on freeway driving...
Of course they should perform well in rain, mud, maybe snow, but mostly rain, mud and dry tarmac
This would be for my Dodge Cargo Van 3500 circa '99 which also doubles as my present home for the time being
The American tyre market is different from the UK, but Goodyear have just released the Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure which is a 50/50 road/off-road tyre which might be what you're looking for!
Tyre Reviews Appreciate the reply... I'll look into that .
Thanks
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Sounds like that would be a great subject for a video.. The differences in tire "culture" between the US market and the UK's, and expanding on the premise would be fun to see and hear from the designer thru the customer standpoints...
Just a thought😎
That is a great idea for the video!! I'll add it to the list :)
You just reading technical data, I drove both tyres on a Golf 7 Gti, A2 was a performance tyre amazing !,the A3 spun more and wore out a 3rd faster. And don't ever go efficient grip! Now currently back on Good year A5(2days), hoping they are better!
This is the second video we shot during our recent trip to Goodyears excellent test facility in the South of France. The b-roll video content is a little too close to the first 17 vs 18 vs 19 inch video, but this video looks at the new Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 tyre against the previous generation Asymmetric 2.
As always, if you have any questions or comments please feel free to ask below, and if you like the video please do like and subscribe. The next video due in around 3 weeks will is promising to be the best video yet!
Tyre Reviews two vids in one month! Your spoiling us!
Great videos as always, look forward to the next one
Would love to see a comparison video against runflats...
Keep up the good work!
Thank you, appreciated :) I'm working on the runflat video at the moment, it's just going to take some time to do correctly!
Tyre Reviews I think I have 12 months left in the A2's yet so A4's are the next for me I think thanks for letting me know
Tyre Reviews what do you prefer ps4 asymmetric 5 or Conti Sport contact 6??
When i stage 1 tuned my 1.6Hdi 3008, the 380Nm torque first shredded my clutch. After the clutch has been uprated, its the Michelin primacy HPs turn to give up the ghost. Been considering both the PS4 & F1A3 when the when the additional $200 savings edged me to chose the F1A3. Tyres are much lighter compared to the Michelins. Have since piled on 10,000km on it. Dry grip is excellent, wet grip is good. Tyres are quiet and very comfortable. The rim protectors are thick and really protects my Sparco Assetto Garra rims very well.Only drawback, tyres seems softer and not very nail resistant even when new. Other than that, excellent tyres! *edit the car is shod with factory spec 225/50R17s
I use these on my Civic Type R. Cannot fault them, great grip in the wet and dry, although when on the edge the sidewalls feel a little on the soft side. 32PSI.
Version 5 is out now, video due soon ;)
Oh I've just seen this video today! I'm using the same tyres on Merc E220-19"wheels . At the rear are wider 275 and 245 in front. About mine all is good apart from level of noise. I'm thinking to replace with Pirelli cinturato blue 7 maybe get less noise inside. Any idea please? Any other suggestion.
Thanks for video 👍🏻
I'm not sure you'll reduce noise when comparing the Pirelli to the Goodyear. The act of changing the tyres might have the biggest difference.
Alternatively look for a set of "silent" tyres which have the foam bonded to the inside of the tyres. Continental are leading this.
Hello :) great video as allways :) im gona buy this tire but im curious o am all about comfort more so i want to know wich is more quieter inside the car, i know meybe i can fibd quieter tires but i allso want good grip on wet road allso so i am going witg goodyear but just qurious wich to get, i got audi a4 b8 v6 so im going with 245 45 r18, dont gettin runflats couse i had them and dammaged sometging...
Asym 5 replaced both of these, so go with them!
hello there. i'm using a toyota wish 1.8s 2012 and using the original 16 inches rim with toyo tires, i'm thinking of changing my rims and tires to 17 inches. what type of tyres do you recommend and the maximum width of the rim that i can use on my toyota wish. tq in advance. (thinking of using either goodyear f1 assymetric 3, michelin pilot sport 4 or the continental sport contact 3 or 4)
Unfortunately I'm unable to advise on particular car and wheel size combinations. It would be best to either speak to Toyota, or find an owners club online and see what sizes people are safely using.
tq sir
Can you make some Falken and Hankook reviews?
+dpistis I'll add it to the list!
Long list I suppose ;)
I had both. I really miss the turn in from the 2 against that of the 3. The 3 is al little more oversteery on my 2013 focus st.
All great tyres :)
Interesting. Currently I'm on Pirelli P7 Cinturato, but they are at 5 mm now, with still half a summer left (and I'm doing 50k a year). So I guess next year I might be ready for new tyres. Do you have any experience with the Pirellis? From what I gather they are more eco-centric, Pirelli calls them green performance tyres. Would I get an improvement from the F1 Asymmetric 3?
Sadly our direct experience with many Pirelli tyres is low. The natural Pirelli rival for this Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 is the Pirelli P Zero, and in tests where they're together, the Goodyear usually comes out best.
Those P7 cost a third more than the Asymmetric 3 where I live and most of the reviews I've seen and word of mouth are consistently showing the Goodyear as the better tire. Currently using the Goodyear on my sti with a stiffer suspension and its a lot more comfortable too.
Seems like a good option if they're made in your size :)
P7’s are horrible. Factory’s standard on my VW and horrible in the wet & not great in the dry. Poop
Have you tried these with the SCT technology? If so is it worth it?
I've not, but SCT tech generally does a very good job.
Hey can you suggest or give me advice on a new set of tyre's for me. Currently I'm looking at the PremiumContact6 which is 205/40-17 or pilot sport 4/ eagle assymetric 3 both in 215/40-17. It's for my daily drive and I do drive spirited but not to lets say go to the track, for me personally comfort, wear, rain (belgium) and noise would be the main aspects I want and for that occasion which would you recommend? Thanks in advance -Tom
Hi Tom,
They're all excellent choices. The Pilot Sport 4 is the newest of those tyres, and currently testing the best, but if noise and comfort are a priority it can be marked down in those categories.
The CPC6 and F1A3 were both tested against each other in the latest EVO tyre test. If you've not managed to buy the magazine, check out the Tyre Reviews website next week as the full test will be available there :)
Thanks and I'll keep an eye on it :) I only look for A brand tyre's since to me safety is the biggest concern in driving anyhow you gotta trust your tyres as the only contact with the road at the end of the day ;) currently have cpc2 wich are loud and wear quickly imho
Hi Tom, the EVO tyre test is now on the site :) If you visit the Tyre Reviews home page and it's the third article down!
Hi read all articles and well as soon as I'm gona go for new I'm gona go for the michelin ps4 because it's int the 215/40-17 size and it does score better in all but the noise gues I"ll live with that :) do you have any input on wear on the ps4 though?
Michelin usually have the best wear when tested against competition so you shouldn't need to worry about the wear of the PS4 :)
I really want to get these tyres based off overall positive reviews, however can I get this on a Mercedes CLS 2014 model for example? I mean, is it possible to use such tyres as long as they're the right size or should I stick to the recommendation from Mercedes? Do you have a video on this, if not I think it's worth addressing this as a video.
Absolutely fine :) That video is also on the plan for this year :)
What are they like when half worn? I had 2 on my Z4, then 3 on the rears, they are now noisy at half wear.
Now have 5's, still prefer the 2's.
Looking to replace my accemetric 2’s very soon!
I’m confused by reviews that say the accemetric 3 tends to aquaplane more than the 2 & tends to have more wheel scrabble from a standing start,with my car having a moderate 200bhp at the front wheels & does tend to scrabble on pull off!
I’m not torn between the accemetric 3 & the Michelin sport 4 although the Michelin is a great tyre I do not want to make the road noise much louder or sacrifice too much comfort any help greatly appreciated
Asymmetric 5 is now out ;)
@@tyrereviews is it any good though? & it's not in my size yet I need tyres within the next few weeks closest size I can get is a 215 40 17 the standard are 205 45 17 if I can fit that size with no problems will give them a whirl
Better than the 3. Test data on the website.
Tyre Reviews do you know or can you find out when they will be releasing this tyre in a 205 45 17 size
I drive a 2019 Honda Civic SI & these came on my car from the factory but I looked up the price 235-40-18 & they want $800 all 4... I priced out that size on Google & some federal 595 came up $305 shipped to my door! both 240 treadwear & 4.8* reviewed by about 200 ppl. Most people said that they do as good as a factory Goodyear tires or whatever mainstream brand came on the car & most ppl r more happy with the cheap tires, I think that's what I'm going with next for the price n GREAT reviews👍
The only reason I would do that because on my previous car I tried some Sumitomo all season tires and they were better than the continental I paid $72 each the Continentals were $142 and honestly it blew me away and come to find out Goodyear makes Sumitomo tires and vice versa
Let me know whatever you decide on!
All is well when the tires are new, BUT GY is usually lacking when they wear - Michelin and Conti are vastly superior when they are say at half-life cycle or near the end of its life.
I've had the 2's and 3's on my Focus ST170, found the 2 to be a really great Tyre but the very soft sidewalls spoiled it, which took away a little feel and pose. the 3's really addressed this and had a much firmer sidewall and feel yet have the same silky smooth ride.
amazing all round Tyre and only around £73 in 17 (£80 in 18) gives you a premium Tyre at mid range prices, get around 25k rear and 12-15k front miles as well.
maybe 3-5% less dry grip than say contact 5 or PS4 but your mostly gaining everywhere else but both were around a £100 which have only recently dropped to around the 90 mark.
Glad you like the 3 :)
Does these tyres asymetric 2 and 3 got rim protection ?
Pascal Carlotti assy 3 do yes
@@jamesclancy2585 2 too
Great review. Between Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3, Dunlop sport maxx rt2 and continental premium contact 6 would you suggest for a tire size of 205/40/r17 (fiesta st180 )? Thanks a lot.
Looking at the latest tests, the new Continental Premium Contact 6 is doing the best, but it's extremely close between all the tyres you mention and you wouldn't be disappointed with any of them!
Copy that. Thanks a lot for the answer.
in your opinion, which tyre will perform best in absorbing bumps?
I have a Skoda Yeti as family car. I hadn't Goodyear before, I checked the reviews for asymmetric 3 and I put them on. Unfortunately from the first drives the car couldn't stop property from any speed, in low speeds abs kick in all the time in any road, I felt like I did the worst buy I could do. Now after 25.000km it still scary in braking. The tires have no wear but still can't do the job.
This sounds VERY strange, where in the world are you? Are the tyres E-marked? They might be a grey import / fake, as the Asymmetric 3 consistently tests as a good wet tyre.
@@tyrereviews I live in Greece and the tyres I bought from a good reputation store. You say about fake tyres something I didn't know that exists and now I remember that the tyre store ordered the tyres from Holland, that's what he told me. The second strange thing was that the price was about 70€ cheaper than others that period ... That was a serious reason to get a good set of premium tyres. As for the E-marked you mention, I believe it exists on the tyres, but not sure, I have to check it, the date of production was OK, two months old.
I got this exact tyre and exact car
I hope you enjoy the combination as much as I did
My local garage only had 3s for the back and 2s for the front is that a good idea or not
Do you run an odd staggered size? I wouldn't suggest mixing when it's usually so easy not to mix!
Front: 225/45 ZR 18 91 W and Rear: 245/45 R18 96 W
Find another dealer, they make the A3 in your front size too - www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Goodyear/Eagle-F1-Asymmetric-3.htm/price/225-45-18
Cheers
when asymmetric 4 will be available to buy ?
Good question. Nothing confirmed but I would guess first half of next year
From march 2019 asym 5 will be released.
I am looking at new tyres for my MK7 VW Golf R. I thought about Eagle F1 3’s, but have heard a few people saying the sidewalks are really soft and the handling becomes a little dull, like driving on marshmallows.... can anyone confirm or deny this?
Any advice would be great...
It depends on size, but there are definitely harder sidewalled tyres available, but you do compromise comfort.
Tyre Reviews 235/35 19, MK7 Golf R Pretoria wheels. I’m a bit scared that it does feel like marshmallows. What’s your thoughts? Anything else you would personally recommend? Currently on your website too
I had no problems with the A3 in that size, it's always felt good to me. The PSS is even better, or you could try something like the Vorti R.
I have just bit the bullet and purchased the Eagle F1 3's :) fitment is Wednesday. Roll on!! Cheers!
Yes that is true fact! I replaced my SportContact 6 tyres to eagle F1 as3. Car does not handle as good as sportcontact6. Highs speed stability is very poor!
how do the compare to the new Michelin Pilot Sport 4?
You can find comparison tests on the Tyre Reviews website
F1 asy3 better than michelin ps4 and pirelli pzero pz4?
Lots of tests on www.tyrereviews.co.uk the michelin is probably the tyre testing best at the moment.
this or dunlop MAXX 060?
Could you shed some light on why the Asymmetric 3 ROF tires are $280 and the Asymmetric 2 ROF are $413? I'm under the impression the threes are much better?
Most likely system issues from the wholesalers, obviously get the cheaper better versions!
Thanks for the reply on an older video. I'm getting the 3's tomorrow!
Th A2 tyre is designed for run flat and sacrifices on performance and comfortability. There are not many good run flat options for handful brands of run flat setup.
Runflat tyres is what causes the poor comfort levels, not the A2. I had A2s on the rear of my 330d (non run flats).
are 2020 tyres that much better?
There's an Asym3 vs 5 video more recently
@@tyrereviews Sadly I couldn't (and still can't) even get the A3s for the rear of my 330d (odd size at 255/40 R17), so 2 yrs ago I got A2s. This month I bought Mich PS4 for the rear, and wow the difference in traction grip in the wet is a massive leap! With the A2s it would (just about) break grip in 3rd (when already in gear), with the PS4s (plural, not S version, lol), it can just about hold grip in 2nd gear! (both when under full throttle).
@@Assimilator1 :D glad you're happy with your choice!
They dont do 265/35 R19 wtf thats common on sports sedans
235/35 R19, 255/35 R19 and 275/35 R19 far are more common sizes, 265 has limited OE fitment (but is the rear size of my e92 M3 sadly)
i went with 255/35 front 285/30 rear on 220m wheels
I had 5 set's of assymetric 2 and i absolutely loved them to the bits but now i have had 2 sets of assymetric 3 nah it ain't the same it just isn't i can't don't understand why did they had to f up such a good tire. Don't get me wrong it is not bad at all but it is not the amazing asymmetric 2. Ok so real science. Assymetric 2 more expensive, wear slightly quicker, better wet handling! Better dry handling.. felt the road a lot more after you drive it in a bit! Braking no difference felt. Felt the car better and could understand the tyres generally better. Only real bad point they both are utterly useless on snow! Very bad driving habits to corner insanely and drive like it as well. Audi a4 b6 130hp heavy but quite quick (chiped) 9 years every day car a lot of mileage! Now i don't care how long you test them when there is such a long experience with only these tyres you can't compare one or two day test runs with my opinion. 225/40/18 XL 92Y
I have a question for anybody. When I shop around for tires, I always try to see how much a certain tire weighs regardless of brand and type and the same thing goes for these Goodyear Asymmetric 3s. When you go on Tirerack.com and look up these tires in the size 265/35/R18s they weigh in at a very light 22 pounds. The next size up in the size 275/35/R18s weighs in at 27 pounds. That's a hell of a jump up and when multiplied by 4, that's 20 pounds of rotating weight for just a few more milimeters more of tire rubber. Why would that be?
By the way Tirerack says that all there tires regardless of brand and size are weighed individually per size so I believe it when I read that the 275/35/R18s are 5 pounds heavier than the 265/35/R18s. Maybe there is a added belt inside the 275s.
There's a good chance you're right about the belt, but only Goodyear would be able to answer properly!
I have some very light weight magnesium wheels that came off of 2 C5 Corvettes. Yes I said 2 C5 Corvettes. Reason why is so I can run 18X9.5s on all 4 corners vs the normal 17X 8.5s used for the fronts. The 18X9.5s are only 2 pounds heavier without wheels vs the 17s so to me it is worth buying 2 full sets. The 17s will sit while I decide on what to do with them. These Goodyears in this video are the lightest max summer tires that fits perfectly at 265/35/R18s but I may use the new Toyo R888Rs (Not the normal older R888s) for road racing and autocrossing. But they are slightly heavier weighing in at 27 pounds for 275/35/R18s so I hope that the R888Rs will have the grip to offset their weight. The biggest reason why I need the 18s all around is because I have 14 inch Brembo ZL1 Brakes. Trust me if I have 12 Grand I would buy Carbon Fiber Wheels buy only if I can get them in the size and offset that I need for my 97 Camaro.@@tyrereviews
@@Savineyard3 I'm sure the R888R will have enough extra dry grip to offset the weight! Have you looked at the Nankang AR1s? They're also strong for Autocrossing
yep sure have. As well as all the Pilot tires and the Hoosier slicks.
@@tyrereviews
I had a set of the eagle f1 2, they sucks so bad. I would put my Continental extreme contact DWS06 against them all day and Goodyear will never win in any condition.
LMAO
LMAO x2 - you've got to be kidding. I'm a fan of Continental but the DWS06 is crap compared to the F1 A2's.
The soundtrack is so garbled and obviously mixing several tapes that it is totally pointless to persevere with viewing!
I didn't even notice the background music until I read your comment.
Basically, the normal bloke dont give a fuck about 1%, so many variables involved to warrant the extra cost. Do you get a commission.