That's what I don't get. Instead of brow beating and trying to shame men into supporting the league, why don't they get women to watch? They are the larger demographic.
Exactly what I was thinking. They just don't wanna have to adapt to a new game style. They just want to be rich and famous, but the money comes from ads and ads come viewer ratings. IF the WNBA stays the same, they bank account gonna too
And that player that was saying "we are young league only 25 years" she's actually hurting her case. The reason the nba started getting popular is because dudes like Wilk and Bill came along and started playing above the rim.
maybe because they getting paid less I mean who is gonna put effort into something just to get paid low💀💀 men say this like it isn't common sense that nobody is gonna put effort if they're not getting paid well.
@@Ma007rk Idk how that is entitlement but ok😭😭 literally nobody is going to put effort into something to get paid bs. not even you so ig you entitled too.
@@mikahong ... Not sure you should be anywhere on the "mad spectrum" when it comes to that. Every woman you know is a narcissistic sociopath every one Bill Burr's skit illustrates their true nature very clearly. Without a strong male influence in their lives they ultimately devolve into absurdity
I'm no fan of Brittany but bro you gotta let that go y'all act like she kill someone. You probably did worst in this country and ain't do a day in jail.
@@Rey-gq2il You can get thrown in jail and killed in the middle east for being gay, you can also get arrested for minor offenses for being a woman. In Cuba, you can get 6 months to 2 years for small amounts of weed, 2-4 years for bigger amounts, and 15-30 years for international trafficking. Other countries have different rules, it isn't that hard to look them up to see what you can or can't do. Stop applying American law, culture, and logic to problems of other countries. This is especially more important when you're in a country like Russia who is known for disliking America and being a dictatorship. The moment they can get someone to fuck up they throw them in jail and try and make them to fuck up more so they can get them more years and have other countries negotiate for their release (exactly what happened with Brittney). It happened once in North Korea with a US military and is once more happening again with another soldier. It has even happened in the United States.
@@Rey-gq2ilI cant stand the woman. But I'm not placing much weight on her supposed "Breaking Russian Law" narrative. Russia had an excuse they probably didn't care about before but in her case used it to gain some leverage.
@@Rey-gq2il It doesn't matter, it's a different country with different laws and penalties. You can say that their laws are too strict, but if you go there and break them that's your own fault.
@@Rey-gq2il I'd rather the prisoner swap be with one of our captured agents who is locked up and tortured for our country. She committed a crime in another country... yes there are other countries out there and they abide their own set of laws.
The thing that cracks me up is they play with: A smaller ball A smaller court Less minutes per game Less games per season Yet somehow, lowering the rim is a bridge too far. 🤣 I'm a 5'6 dude, I would LOVE if the standrd rim was lowered so I can start dunking. 🤣
I WOULD RATHER WATCH A BOYS 6TH GRADE BASKETBALL GAME THAN THE WNBA GAME THESE WOKE LEFTIST BALL PLAYERS ARE SO DISIIUSSIONAL IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY IF IT WASN'T FOR THE NBA PUTTING MILLIONS INTO THIS CRAPPY LEAGUE THE WNBA WOULD HAVE BEEN DEAD YEARS AGO THESE WOMEN SHOULD THANK ALMIGHTY GOD THAT THEY ARE GETTING ANY KIND OF MONEY FOR PLAYING THIS BULLCRAP BRAND OF BASKETBALL THE WNBA TOTALLY STINKS 🦨🦨🦨🦨🦨
WNBA is a prime example of why humility is important. Stop comparing yourself to the nba y’all are different accept your differences and limitations and then you’ll reap the rewards
they earn more than doctors when they can't even do their job, entertain and play well, properly. Even street ball might be more entertaining than this
Also 75% of the players are masculine LGBT chicks. Who wants watch a bunch of women chest bumping, wearing baggy clothes and pretending to be men? The girls also get their attitudes from 🍆 envy. Their pride gets in the way.
What’s funny to me is that the players would like everyone to believe they’ve never played on an outdoor court where the goals were rarely 10 ft. They can play with a smaller ball but are insulted being asked to play on a lower rim FOR MORE MONEY! The players should see it as an incentive to make it to the WNBA so they can start dunking on other players.
The NBA should apologize, and say “You’re right, you could run the WNBA better without us. So it’s better we go our separate ways and then you can generate all of your own revenue and pay people whatever you want.” The WNBA is exactly like buying a homeless person a house to live in, then after a few years, they complain that their house isn’t as nice as yours. If the WNBA lowered the rim, and were actually fun and likeable, the league would do 10x better. Remember back in the 2000s when the women’s soccer team were the darlings of America who’s matches were insanely popular, even more so than the men? It’s because they weren’t constantly whining and existing solely to be a victim.
The real problem is that lesbian Women don't wanna hear from straight men. The find it disrespectful and insulting. But almost all the fans of all major sports are straight men. They effectively alienate their most major fan base cus of posturing. And these dudes are the only people that care enough to try to help them and get smacked in the face for it.
@@shadow_realm47damn the cold truth. Facts. It's the gayness of the league more than anything. Young Boys don't want these women. They look rough plus gay. Let's keep it real. No eye candy
I'm pretty sure the WNBA takes their percentage out of the total revenue...not the revenue left after expenses are subtracted from profits. The majority of WNBA teams don't generate a profit...so their players need to be paid out of the total revenue generated and the NBA needs to subsidize the difference in order to make sure some teams don't go under. If they were paid out of their profits...like most other sports leagues in the World...your point would be true. They'd either have to pay to play or teams would start folding because they couldn't afford to pay them.
_"Way to flunk at reading comprehension."_ Speak for yourself! Revenue =/= profit The WNBA profit reports a net loss, whereas the WNBA revenue reports a net gain. "Revenue, also known simply as "sales", doesn't deduct any costs or expenses associated with operating the business. Profit is the amount of income that remains after accounting for all expenses, debts, additional income streams, and operating costs." Perhaps you should brush up on your reading comprehension before trying to flame others for making a completely logical comment. Dunderklumpen!
That's not gonna happen. Women only go to NBA games to watch players they want to sleep with. They care not about the game. WNBA has to insert fashion and drama first. WNBA will have to be some sort of female reality show with a basketball setting. Tons of arguing and petty drama. WNBA will never sell on the sport alone.
lol huh if woman aren't supporting it now what makes you think it will change just because? lol the fact is its boring. it feels like watching a high school game at times. Also the NBA is the only reason they have salaries to begin with as they foot the bill for the negative revenue EVERY YEAR. so its actually SUPER INNAPPROPRIATE TO ASK FOR SAME PAY AS NBA LOL
@@nicholaswilkerson501their being coddled they need someone too straight tell them "you're losing money without the nba this league wouldnt have lasted as long as it did"
To sell Sports as entertainment, you need to entertain the audiences no matter whats gender the audiences are. If they entertained, they will pay the tickets
Very, very, legitimate point.. These WNBA chicks are completely tripped out!! If it wasn't for the NBA continually SUBSIDISING their ungrateful asses from top to bottom, they would have nothing at all.. Zero, nada, absolutely nothing.. They'd have to go elsewhere (overseas) if they wanted to continue playing organised basketball after finishing college.. But somehow, from their delusional point of view ----- FACTS like that shouldn't matter..
Women's professional golf has the tees not as far back as the men. 40 or 50 yard longer shots into greens would make for less dynamic shot making and scoring for the women on tour. It just makes so much more sense to have the rim a bit shorter. Find out what the vertical jump average is for men vs women and adjust. Or you could just experiment with a 9 1/2 rim or 9 1/4, and see the difference it makes. Could be a real positive. No sense in letting pride keep you from exploring opportunities to improve the game and make it more fun for the players and fans. Without trying something new, we wouldn't have a shot clock, or a three point line.
It's one of those, "it's not what you said, it's how you said it so I'm going to disregard all the sense it makes and act angry until everybody says I'm right" situations, I think.
It's amazing to me how these women are supposed to be business professionals, yet they don't want to hear any constructive feedback. That's a scary thought for the league's survival.
They've obviously all failed economics because any business that doesn't turn a profit doesn't last, and especially doesn't depend on subsidies for survival.
The ego behind not wanting to shorten the rim is baffling to me. It’s one thing to stay steadfast with not wanting to. But, say it’s disrespectful to ask?….How?..😳
Lowering the rim won't do anything. Women still don't have the bounce as men. Women won't be dunking on other women. The majority of women still can't dunk. Look at their jump shots, most are push shots or flat footed. Look at block shots, most are flat footed. No elevation. Lowering the rim would just mean more dunks on fastbreak by people that are already dunking in the WNBA.
Lowering the rim just hurts both women and men. The way these weak generations of men move they are going to constantly play on the women’s rims and ruin the mens game. Add that all the high school and playground rim’s would end up at the woman’s height, because society has to cater to women. The height change would mess up the mens game as well.
@@kennethsmith6367no it wouldn’t. The women’s balls are smaller (Ha), the 3 point line is closer, the seasons are shorter, and the games are shorter. Lowering the rim wouldn’t change the NBA or men’s leagues at all.
I remember in an interview when Lisa Leslie said that NBA players should donate part of their salaries to WNBA players. Room full of dudes including Lebron and all of them just nodded their heads and pretended they thought it was a valid point when you know for damn sure they were thinking "This chick is trippin". Only Draymond had the balls to say what he was thinking and call her out for being childish and unrealistic.
Shid but that's a good idea. They are a collection of "rich friends" that could help funding a league that one day their children or grandchildren can actually have a league they are proud of. Having players constantly go to the games. Show up to events people would flock as well. If I had a women's team here in Baltimore. I would go all the time. Even more if the others team stars were promoted and I knew who was in town.
Coaches should lower the rims before practice to 9.5 ft and see if there is a difference in their games. If you're a professional athlete, you should be able to adjust to whatever is thrown at you. The WNBA players, most of them, are delusional but, I'm sure that there are some that agree with the lowered rim solution. They are probably afraid of the backlash they'll most likely receive from their peers
Just kills me how they draw the damn line at the rim thing when they already play with a smaller ball, shorter 3-point lines and play for less amount of time compared to men during an individual game.
I say 9.3 ft just to give them a little extra advantage. Women have compensate for both the lack of height and the lack of vertical, average height in wnba is half a foot less than the WNBA, and the average vertical is 9 inches less than the average NBA vertical. So the WNBA is on average at almost a foot and a half disadvantage when comparing height + vertical
@@Stej-i7m 9ft even and call it a day. Plus they've followed some of these ladies to streetball games and proven that a lot of outdoor courts vary from 9.5-10.3ft in height. It's never exact and players adjust.
They don't wanna be compared to men yet many try to emulate men in their appearance and demanor... The Wiggins revalation didn't help either. Make it make sense....
They say that, thinking that they sound smart, but they actually highlight how little they understand about business. More "revenue", which the WNBA does have (not much though), going to the players, means less money going to the owners, which means that the owners would loss even more money then they are already.
That prisoner exchange still is just a mind-blowing thing to know happened. In the history books it will be written down that a basketball player legit broke another country's laws, got a sentence that people thought was too harsh, so we traded a famed international war criminal, at one time the most wanted man in the world, prolific to the point that movies have been based on him, so that the basketball player didn't have to serve their sentence for their actual crime.
Who cares? So she had some weed. Male sports players have literally murdered people and basically gotten away with it. Some SERIOUS double standards here.
Yeah that’s a delusional ideologue speaking right there. Nothing said using basic logic of any kind. So many being brainwashed by the liberal MSM these days.
@@jimmirogers3485 doesn’t change the arrogant speak. We don’t know if her offspring can or not because it hasn’t been proven. Fact is the majority of females cannot, so logic says no. Arrogance.
@@BrianFerguson-vs2bn bro I wish... I actually watched some games... id they airballed all the time I'd be funny at least. In reality it's like a league for 40 to 50yo men who are very out of shape, run around slowly and the most exciting thing to see is a layup... And yes I know they're actually very athletic, but watching it compared to men's league it seems like they're playing in slow motion
The #1 thing plaguing the WNBA is an enormous lack of self-awareness of its players. I support women’s sports and always will but you can’t force people to like it or financially support it. It has to be desirable to watch.
@@ctormin He said it badly but I think what he means is when they complain about viewership or money they have this sense of entitlement, that they deserve the perks no matter what the product is like. Which is dumb lol
Those who are gay almost always lack self-awareness. Entire wnba is gay so that’s why they are all arrogant and have no self-awareness they have no shame
@@josephinetracy1485I think that's way oversimplifying things, especially given this is commented on a video that outlines a number of different issues 🤣
I don't understand the point that they want a bigger share of league revenue when the league loses money. If the NBA wasn't subsidizing them the WNBA would've folded long ago. Are they willing to pay to play until the league is financially viable? 25% of nothing and 50% of nothing are the same number, nothing.
$$$$ Talks. They don't care about the logistics..they just want to get more and more money like anyone else. They just don't care or know that they actually have to work for it. They want to keep doing what they are already doing and get paid more for nothing. They don't care where the money comes from. It's like when you hand a 5 year old $20. Yes that's a lot until they use it all and then want more..the five year old doesn't care how you got that money, don't care what you did for it, they just want more. They have no concept of hard work or the value of money. Same thing here. Their checks are handed to them..if it came from their own hard work they would not be so entitled, like a 5 year old. They would understand they have to do something to make that $$$.
Revenue is not the same as profit/loss. The WNBA does make revenue off of ticket sales, merchandise, concessions, advertising, tv deals, etc. What they don't do is turn a profit because they spend more than they make in revenue, which is where the NBA comes in to bail them out. The women want the WNBA to give a share of the revenue BEFORE they pay their bills, in essence making the WNBA lose astronomically more money each season than they already are. No one ever accused these ladies of having logic or reason backing their ideas.
When something isn't working, you need to make some kind of change. The unwillingness to adapt is agreeing with failure. I guess it's easier to make excuses and play the victim than to actually change something. Even if they don't want to lower the rim, they have to acknowledge something needs to change
Also 75% of the players are masculine LGBT chicks. Who wants watch a bunch of women chest bumping, wearing baggy clothes and pretending to be men? The girls also get their attitudes from 🍆 envy. Their pride gets in the way.
What kills me is when people say they should make more money. Then I ask..”do you watch the games…buy merchandise, attend games”? They say no….i then end the conversation
They also are cutting the young girls early. You would think the league would make it a point to keep them on to at least feed off their hype coming out of college but narh..... I guess
@@isaacasamoa927 true. They need to adjust the game, or they need to adjust the way they operate. Something has to give. Can’t expect to just take take take take with all this whining. Not to mention most families have not adopted this Gay Agenda/Lesbian Agenda the United States is pushing…so that means homes with Men as Dads refuse to take their daughters to those games to see women dressed as men and kissing women and being in relationships with women on their social medias (because young fans will follow socials of players they admire). I know of house holds with single mothers as well who refuse to go to the games because of that. They rather take them to NBA so they can see men act like men do men things, so their daughters can like things about a player that are in line with their beliefs. I personally don’t have an opinion either way, in terms of the specialization of the WNBA toward being masculine. I only wonder if the game was more adept to their abilities overall, it would be good for fans. Yes there is a group of 3 women who can dunk, but the other 2,600 players can’t. The ball is smaller, make the rim bigger, bring the basket lower, make the court shorter and add a 4 point spot on each wing of the court. And every time a woman makes 5 shots in a row weather lay ups or jump shot, give them “On Fire” extra point. Have to try something….because this is not working. 30 years have proven that.
I was a practice player for a d1 women’s college team-loved every minute of it. While I probably have more respect for women’s hoops than most, I do find it strange that women’s players are offended by lowering the rim😂 the ball is smaller, 3pt line closer, etc.
They can’t dunk bro either way. It’s the bodies bro,men and women are build different. Let em cry it’s a fact male sports are desirable.women are smart they can stick with that.
@@eshooscaonly some would be able. There is not one man In the NBA that can’t dunk . Spud Webb was 5’6 and could dunk for Fucxks sake. There are women 6’4 all day and still CANT dunk.
I met a player, named Beard? In Korea. We were getting our hair, micro braided. Super Sweet. We didn't talk about Basketball at all. They don't fill overseas either, back then. You NEVER will. Not even if the tickets are free. I think I went to one, it was in Grammer school. We watched them and asked them questions afterwards. People asked them to do Globetrotters tricks. "Can you..." It was 3 other classes there from other schools. No one watched the game. Sad. And, shame on Us.
@@dwightcurrie8316Hell no. IDGAF about overrated highlights. Sports are entertainment after all and i paid a league pass to be entertain and to enjoy it and not to be bored. I don't wanna see a lot of airballs as a highlight in ESPN unless if Caitlyn Clark choose to go pro. She's the only one girl that brings entertainment in girls basketball for crying out loud.
The NBA today looks different from where it started. Rules were changed to bring in a wider audience. Three point line. No more discrimination. Breakaway rims. Better shoes. Shot clock. Owners investment in players and facilities. Pros in Olympics. Foreign players. These things took time and dedication if they wanted the league to survive. Good luck WNBA but I don't believe in it
What's crazy is that when you compare the clip of Lisa Leslie dunking to all the other more recent clips, you can see a noticeably large difference in audience attendance
I don't watch mediocrity in sports, but now when it's been made clear the wnba is jammed with players that have a child-like line of thinking they have become a joke.
@@darrengordon-hill I like women so I watch WNBA. Plain and simple some of them cute too. And they all have the fundamentals. It's a trend to not like the WNBA or women's sports in general. When katie Ledecky was winning all those gold medal they questioned whether the swimming pool was shorter than the mens. Shortening the court is only going to give haters more ammo
@@darrengordon-hill and a lot of people watch ncaa 😂 their games sell out collages make a fuck ton of profit from the games they get more in person and tv viewership then the wnba and if hs games were televised people would watch it over the wnba
@@kyledixontvbut women allready play with a smaller ball shorter 3 point line and shorter quarters its allready not the same as the nba its not equal so the pay should also be not equal thats the same as me complaining a triple xl doesnt fit cause im to short the problem is not the piece of clothing
Lowering the rim is the coolest thing for us short dudes. We played full court on 8' 6" hoop outdoor court in Kailua Hawaii in 86 we even had fans around the park watching us all the time. When you can finger roll like George Gervin and dunk like chocolate thunder and Dr. J. it was nice and the fans loved it. The fans didn't give 1 ish the rims weren't 10 feet high.
We had a WNBA player visit our college class way back in 2002. I asked her about lowering the rim and she handled it very well. I don't recall her exact answer, but she didn't act offended or anything like that. She was chill. Times have changed.
rather than ask them about lowering the rim as this could trigger a lot but how about ask when are we going to start seeing the excitement of dunks like the NBA does?
It won’t happen because women on average are shorter and have slower twitch muscles so lowering the rim is actually the right thing to do ,NBA was tailored for men , the size of the ball,the time and the rim were tailored for men ,they should do the same thing for women which in my opinion lower the rim and decrease the size of the ball will only help the excitement in the WNBA .
This isn’t just a WNBA issue. This is a great look into the issues with modern feminism in general. Tons of arrogance & refusal to accept reality. Lot of victimizing themselves instead of taking accountability/action.
Yeah and all the men do is complain, be dismissive, and apply double standards. If men got treated the way they get treated there would be an absolutely epic tantrum.
College women basket ball is successful cuz play with passion and actually make layups and 3 pointer ....wbna fundamentals is on a jr high level of basketball
@@criticaljacques2237that’s why you always go under on everything, Gilbert arenas goes under on almost every stat he sees a spread for and hits 60% of the time.
A little over 10 years ago, I got free WNBA tickets for a Sacramento Monarchs game. My daughter said, "No, I'm Okay." Keep in mind. The Kings sucked and the Monarchs just won the championship the previous year.
Women don't watch sports in general, they wouldn't even have known. It's like, none of my gfs got excited for a marvel film because it was female lead. They still didn't care because women generally don't! SMH. I'd buy a WBNA ticket if all the women in the league came out against feminism and glorifying where culture. Like, be WORTH attention instead of whining about it.
They complain that they dont want to change the rim to make it easier to play. Nobody points out the fact that the wnba ball is slightly smaller and lighter than the nba ball. This is to make it easier to dribble and pass, and easier for the ball to get in the hoop. They just need to make it easier to dunk. Nobody would lose respect for them and the game would become waaay more enjoyable
Took my family to a WNBA game a couple years ago, worst attitudes ive seen in sports besides the USA women's soccer team(shocking I know) The next problem was that there was nobody in the stands and whatever your picturing it was less, much less. Finally my kids who (two girls and one boy) all play basketball, seriously thought it was some kind of opposite world Globetrotters i believe my daughter called it, because where as the Globetrotters make everything and are all fancy with amazing ball control,this was not that! Not that at all! Missing open shots, layups, turn overs,even free throws weren't made consistently. To this day my kids are older and know about the WNBA and its a huge topic at family get togethers about how we warped into another dimension and watched an opposite world basketball game lol
It's funny how the women's sports that contain the highest concentration of lesbians than any other profession in the world also happens to contain the most self-absorbed, delusional, unlikeable, and entitled athletes on the face of the earth.
Most of the WNBA players have an attitude problem when regular people and people that know the game wants to give their opinions on how the league can be fixed but the main issue here with this WNBA players is that even Woman don't back them up is a boring league and that's the TRUTH
I was never a WNBA fan, but I would at least tune in if nothing better was on, once a year maybe. Then that one player disrespected Andre Iguodala with serious attitude AFTER HE TRIED TO COMPLIMENT HER PLAY. After that I swore it off permanently...true, NBA players aren't all good people, but at least the basketball is fun to watch. But the WNBA's crappy people AND crappy basketball? Nah, I'll just nap from now on.
I do sympathize with them. It must suck being the best of the best at something in your gender while still being worse than some high school boys. Especially as an athlete. And there’s nothing you can do about it.
@@lincolnjeon2666 Her and her sister were both beaten 6-1 and 6-2 by the 203rd ranked mens player in 1998. I don't think you could've picked a much worse example for males vs females in sport.
How is lowering the rim offensive again??? Isn’t good revenues the first priority here? Entertainment equals revenue so why not just lower the rim? This shouldn’t be the players decision. Lower the rim and whoever doesn’t like it, they don’t have to play. WNBA players are forgetting that their talents are valuable for entertainment purposes only. If not for entertainment, their talents mean nothing except for being a form of exercise or hobby. So if WNBA players want to get paid, their first priority should be on being entertaining and not their ego.
@@bryantsteury8910 exactly. "Bro" women like Bob G, Diana T and Kelsey Plum are just a couple of examples; not to mention the players who have literally had their bodies surgically altered to look like men.
its funny that they keep complaining about our push for them to get more dunks in their game but i think they dont want to add it because theyre scared of dealing with lob threats and more schemes that require you to gaurd air space as well as floor space
I think we’re missing an important aspect. It’s that people have limited slots(time) for hobbies/interests. WNBA has to be chosen over all the other sports (not just NBA), not just sports (Netflix, Amazon prime, Reddit, instagram…etc). So can they be interesting enough for ppl to proactively choose WNBA over all other entertainments? I don’t know why ppl want to make this male vs. female, nba vs. wnba, dumb genderism….. it’s not.
i don’t mean to rude but there’s just a way that men’s ball is played that just has so much more finesse and style. you rarely see airballs in HS varsity or even JV games but you see tons in professional women’s basketball. at my highschool the girls air ball more than the guys make threes, and we shoot 50% as a team
They're in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. As soon as they cut it loose, people would come out of the woodwork to complain that women aren't supported - people who never watch a single game, mind you. So the NBA just pays the small "tax" to prop it up. What's mind-blowing is that more in the WNBA don't see this and have the sense to take what they get from the NBA. And if they want more, figure out how to do it by making their league more exciting. Instead, they exploit the tenuous link to the NBA at every opportunity to guilt more money for their players. It's just professional gold digging.
The NBA players are receiving higher percentage of revenue because they have “leverage”. Exciting games, popular players, multiple work stoppages, etc. It was hard earned. The WNBA players basically want the same without leverage. If there was a work stoppage or strike, they would just shut the league down
I've sat and watched entire games of the old middle school teams "north coast blue chips" which had bronny James, Mikey Williams and etc and enjoyed it. And I also regularly watch entire games of men's highschool games. I've tried the WNBA and turned It off after a quarter shit was ass and I never clicked on anothe WNBA game
@lomasuros exactly... it's such am insulting joke... if "Equality" really was the GOAL, they would be told the TRUTH... if MEN were THAT bad, there wouldn't be a league!!!
Realize that Lisa Leslie played in the very first wnba game ever and had an opportunity to dunk in that game but came up short. The very first game could've had a dunk in it. She ended up being the first to ever dunk in the league YEARS later. I was watching both games live on tv. I'm the same age as Leslie and knew about her since high school when she scored 100 points. I grew up in the 80's watching Cheryl Miller too. Women's basketball actually had fans back in the day and they weren't acting entitled either from what I remember. Today's generation of young women are completely entitled which has turned off even old school fans like myself who were their greatest supporters at one time, old school men.
The past 15 years or so have seen the largest gain of entitlement. This group of wnba players grew up with the wnba existing, a goal to go pro actually existing. With it they stopped striving to be better then the generation before them. They became content and then expectant.
True. The Current Players and Most Of The Coaches are Just Plain TOXIC. They behave like Government Employees, who can't Be Fired without a tremendous effort. Like the current layers, whose Places are Very Secured as long as they go along with, if not participate in the "Alphabet Behavior & Activism. Word is the Current Crop of Players aren't all about Accepting a Straight Player Into The Fold and nurturing her Talent and Performance. Seem Two Teams have to be Played On in order to be accepted.................This Is Cult Like Behavior and has Poisoned The WNBA, to the point that one current "Star" blithely Stated, "Nobody is really retiring so fans will get to see the same thing for a longer time" or words to that Exact Same Effect. Unless you really are Playing at the Elite level Continuously like MJ, Bird, Shaq, Magic, Etc. were/are, Nobody with a spot on the Team Roster should "Get Comfortable" EVER> The lady I spoke of commented, Unintentionally, to the Complacency that permeates, and has eroded the WNBA in so many ways. Take an Honest Look at the "Conditioning" of the Players. They must run a whole lot to be able to Bumble back & forth across the Court like they do, from Air Ball To Air Ball & Their stamina to do that at least is a good thing, BUT A further look takes in the "Almost" Total lack of Tone in their Limbs(Both Legs and Arms). The Muscular Tone in both their arms and legs is not Easily Seen(It Largely Doesn't Exist, or Can't Be Seen, at least). Both Legs and arms show very little, if any Tone Or Definition are not "Well Defined", or just Defined. Nope. Not That Either. If you discount their Height and compare almost any WNBA "Baller?" with any other "Regular Woman who might Exercise A Little On Occasion, there is No Difference in their appearances. This is either from WNBAers being Genetic Anomalies, Freaks Of Nature, OR They Don't Work Out with the purpose of adding whatever Musculature that's needed to Play Basketball at an Elite Level, which would surely add to the Tone and definition of their easily seen Arms And Legs....Wouldn't it? I know they don't want Schwarzenegger like Muscles. That type of Muscle would Hinder rather than help their performance on the course, so the training has to be Specific toward Better Balling, but a Woman with a Gut waddling around the court isn't Ideal either.....Is It? I'm trying to be fair, and freely admit that my knowledge of Genetics and Musculature, is second only to my lack of knowledge(First Hand) at Elite Level B-Ball Performance Enhancement & how to put together the Complete "Package" of a perfect Female B-Baller is accomplished. While my Peers were playing Basketball, which was Very Popular & Closely Followed in my Small Rural Community during the 1950s & 60s(Think "Friday Night Lights" Mindset and Mania, but with Financially Challenged Southern Farm Boys And Girls) I was At The Rodeo or Working Horses for Myself and others who were into Showing & Competing Horse Critters, and keeping my Ass attached to the Hurricane Deck of Both Rank Broncs And Bucking Bulls. Both my Brother and Sister(The Ladies Played Half Court Back Then) were quite good a Basketball, and my Parents went to some Away Games, but Every Single Home Game, so I began watching the games very early in life. B-Ball was The Only Sport my small school had enough students to form a viable Team(No football team Ever, and no Track team until I was a HS Junior in 1967. I went every Ball Game I could all throughout my School Years, so I'm not a Neophyte, but my real interests lay with Horse Critters. Even with Very Hard Work and A Bunch Of TRY, I couldn't have turned B-Balling into a career, by any means, but I was good enough to earn my living(Missed Meal Cramps weren't unheard of though) off Riding Broncs and Bulls(Mostly Broncs...Horses With Bad Attitudes) and Training Horses, for well over a Decade after graduating from both High School and Uncle Sugar's Navy(The Draft And Veeetnaaaaam, Republic Of, and The Draft Were A Thing Back Then). Let's jut say I know enough about B-Ball(I also am No Stranger to the type of conditioning, Muscle Memory and Strength training needed to Compete Against Very Good Opponents) to be able to see what is working and what isn't AND The WNBA Isn't Working. The Players, for the most part appear rather Flaccid in their physical appearance, agility an overall performance. College Female Basketball Players appear far better Conditioned and more Serious and Dedicated to their chosen sport. Shouldn't it be The Other Way Around? Is there something I'm Missing here??? If someone will kindly enlighten me as to what it is I'm Missing, I'll be Grateful.
Cathy Engelbert is the Commissioner needs to go to take classes from Roger Caddell on how to run a league, this is absolutely ridiculous. These girls have a chance to start making some real money but half of them would cut their own nose off to spite their face.
What's crazy in their logic too is the NBA itself has experimented with raised rims because it was too easy for the men to score. Also the NBA has had paramount changes that players absolutely hated, I.e the three point line 3 seconds in the paint. The NBA right now is going through a crisis losing long time fans for the same reasons the WNBA cant get fans is the ridiculous number of 3 points shots. So the idea the WNBA is perfect and just need people to sit there and watch the game whether they like it or not is absurd. The rims need to be lowered to 9ft, which will also increase blocks which is something I dont see people talk about which is another part of the game that people love watching. This happens to literally every women's sports league which a male equivalent see the independently owned women's hockey league that went bankrupt. Despite all of that the people who suffer are the staff the trainers equipment managers maintenance. Who are the first to get laid off or have to take a paycut because of their refusal to accept change, even though they basically demand the fans change their expectations of what the game of basketball is.
It's amazing how they will argue to the deepest extent about their refusal to lower the rim, but you can find countless clips of them attempting alley oops, which end in lay ups, or attempted dunks which often fail. But they don't want to dunk in the WNBA if you go by what they say. But this is basically saying the same things I've been saying about the WNBA in any educated discussion about why it's failing beyond the whole "the women can't play argument".
5:53 I love her complete non-answer to the question on top of just being rude about it. There was no better way for dude to raise the very legitimate suggestion
One year later and this video is more relevant now than ever. This past season, Caitlin Clark’s rookie year, has put a huge spotlight on the issues and lack of professionalism plaguing the league. Between the aggressive players, the biased referees, lazy coaches, hateful announcers and player’s terrible attitudes, it’s no surprise that the league operates in a constant net negative. The abuse and hostility shown to one rookie puts yet another stain on the already lackluster league. Abhorrent and shameful. Watching their games is just condoning their behavior therefore I will never support them in any way. Clark should leave when her contract is up. They don’t deserve her
You've hit the nail on the head and the rim height discussion just highlights it. It's an attitude problem. The women want to play like the men and they suck at it. Lowering the rim would absolutely help the women be more exciting like the men, but I don't feel like that's the solution. They'll always be worse than the men and college for that reason. The women need to embrace what has historically made the women's game great. The disparity between the best and worst player on the floor is much much smaller. They cannot run the iso-game because there aren't enough dominant women to do it and help defense exists. What has made the women's game entertaining for years is how team oriented it has been. Some people say it's a focus on fundamentals, but it's more that it's old school team basketball. Quick passes, drive and dish, help defense, etc. all make for a more entertaining product. While the NBA and NCAAM are pushing for superstars to have highlights, the women can market themselves are pure old school basketball. Nobody is ever going to watch an inferior product by choice, but they will watch a slightly different product because it offers something different. The problem is, the individuals want to be superstars and not just team players. They're so focused on status that they've lost sight of sport. As a side note, ticket prices need to come down, efforts need to be made to interact with fans, and they need to humble themselves to the fact they are going to have to work and do fan outreach to grow the sport. Soccer, men's and women's, does this. Minor League teams do it. If you don't have the fanbase, you need to go make one.
This is the answer. Lowering the rim to 9.5 is good. But until the wnba realizes that their product isn't the same as the NBA, it won't matter. What made the women's tournament in March 2023 so great was because we saw great teams of one play style go up against a great team with a different play style. For fans of basketball, it was fascinating and fun to watch. We were watching teams play. We weren't watching super stars. Though, that was how they tried to market the final 4. It wasn't about that LSU girl versus that Iowa girl. It was about those 2 really good teams and how they matched up against the rest of of the feild. I've tried to watch the wnba. It's unwatchable. It's not a team game. It's trash. They need to get college coaches and let them really recruit to their philosophy.
@@carpedm5107 and I'm sure you'll say mostly the same about the NBA. It's not a team game and it's not really basketball. But it's the best and most exciting at what it is which is why it gets watched still.
@@PWCDN bruh what are you on about? We're asking to be able to earn enough to survive the never stopping inflation and buy houses. Is there really a problem with that?
@@whalefall413 Find another job then like 99 % of the rest of us have to do. WNBA is and always has been a money pit. If not for the NBA there would be no wnba.
It's the plays that get me every time. They play like they are afraid of getting scratched or scratching the other player lol whereas the guys just charge through defenders and defenders aren't afraid to take a hit to get a foul call
My favorite WNBA story will forever be the Seattle team holding their championship parade in the pouring Puget Sound rain for less then 100 people in a convoy of soccer mom station wagons, waving out of the open trunks.
Whatever attendance increase in the WNBA is likely largely due to the exposure provided by Bill Burr’s iconic routine about the league featured on UA-cam.
I remember in highschool our most athletic girl was actually very feminine. You would have sworn she was a debutante, you would not have guessed she was the fastest, most coordinated, and highest jumper. She was very pretty and easy to talk too. In fact, if she wanted to be a professional athlete I'm sure she could have made the WNBA. We went to the same highschool as Buster Posey and the Olympic Gold medalist Kellen Ludwig. None of these accomplished athletes had the chip on their shoulder possessed by the women in this video. I also notice these women try to mimic the movement of men to their best ability. Yet men and women have different skeletal structures, which means these women are actually hindering their athletic performance, by trying to be more masculine. The lady I mentioned above didn't do this and she dominated the girls who were mimicking male movements 20 years ago. These girls also seem like they trying to act as they think a male would act. I know this is going to sound weird but it looks to me like these ladies, actually secretly worship men to the point where they want to be men, yet still want men to find them attractive.
@@corecrit3007 Because they don't understand the limitations or advantages of their anatomy. Also, because most women don't have inquisitive minds when it comes to physics.
Youre right about them trying to move like the men. Also, there are not very many WNBA players wanting a male to look at them, if you know what I mean.
Bruh, the very real reason for that is a majority of WNBA players are gay. That's why they have masculine tendencies. Also why most of the are interested in hoops to begin with. I'm not saying heterosexual woman can't or don't like sports, but it's less common as the more feminine you are, the less interested you tend to be in competition overall.
I can honestly say lowering the rims would not peak my interest whatsoever. I don't think ramping up the masculinity more than it already is, along with their attitudes, would change much. If I'm watching women's sports I would choose figure skating, tennis, and volleyball and probably a few others before women's basketball. If I want to watch basketball I'd choose men's college basketball first, nba, overseas pro leagues, and finally the G league long before the wnba. Maybe just maybe if they were to go back and have the attitude of the first players in the nba, nfl, nhl, etc...who would have played even if they weren't paid and just enjoyed the game, they would learn to be grateful for what they have and actually enjoy what they do instead of being so set on what they are entitled to.
Women gymnastics: don't do the Pummel Horse. Nobody: calls this "misogyny". Women excel at grace, balance and flexibility , so they do the balance beam. And most of them are teenagers
Love this. I've been saying for 20 years that they need to lower the rim. Not having the dunk available on a regular basis is baffling. It's like taking the home run out of baseball, the big pass play from football and the knockout from boxing. If the NBA didn't have the dunk for the past 50 years, it wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is. Also, it's interesting that some become offensive when the idea of lowering the rim is brought up when the WNBA already uses a smaller basketball and plays 40-minute games compared to 48 for men.
@@Th1sIsMyLegacyFor a little while yes, but long term lower the rim would lead to more dunks & more shots made which in turn will make the league more appealing to viewers. Remember the WNBA isn't just a sport its a business & to make money you need fans, to get more fans you more flashy plays & more consistent shooting. If only they swallow their pride & accept 10ft is too high forr 99% of the Women they'd get paid more money.
After all her moaning and bitching, watch Bianna Stewart's mile wide smile the first time she slams home a Vandersloot lob on a nine foot rim.@@amadhatter3280
Great video - one follow up question. I was surprised that in connection with the discussion of attitude that you didn’t also advert to the increase in altercations, flagrant fouling, and other outbursts that seem to be increasing occurring in the WNBA. Tempers are very short, and the injuries are piling up.
I find it crazy that women fought to be heard and to-be accepted into society to not be marginalised etc... And these women are simply so detached from reality given their privileged position of literally being paid to do nothing that they don't wanna listen to fan or people that WANT to be fan and support them. That infuriates me so much I'm pissed off rn
i dont understand why the NBA and the WNBA leadership dont just make the decission REGARDLESS of what the players want. LOWER THE DAMN RING, lets get some dunks in... viewership will skyrocket within 6 months.
7:50 - What is she talking about? They already make DOUBLE the shared revenue that the NBA players make? So, essentially she's asking for her salary to be cut in half, right?
The reason that WNBA do not like the idea of dropping the hoop down is because they already get belittled for having a smaller ball, closer three point line and smaller court. Meaning that some people will always be rude and criticise their achievements. At the end of the day, this is a women’s league why should it have to replicate a men’s game to be entertaining. I play other sports that both men and women play like Aussie rules football, where instead of following the mold of the men’s game, the women use different tactics and strategies to play. It doesn’t make the game less entertaining, it’s just a different game. Also women sports is finally catching up to men’s sport in the way that it’s getting more competitive at a young age, which leads to more skilled and athletic players. But in saying that there are still many ways in funding that the girls sport is lacking. I coached a girls team to a grand final win, yet they still receive less funding and resources than the boys team which didn’t place top 6. Also I feel like the WNBA should have been the same teams as the men’s, it’s been successful across the world keeping the same names. It means that a supporter of the Warriors for the men’s doesn’t have to buy new gear or find a new loyalty in a team, they can just start supporting the women’s. Idk why they didn’t do that.
A top 100 high school boys basketball team that performed as poorly as a top 10 WNBA team, would have the coach losing his god-damned mind at the players, making locker room speeches that rivaled General Patton at his most desperate moments.
Bill Burr said it best. Even women don't support the league.
Lesbians always have pride .
Wnba are lesbians .
Wnba have pride .
That's what I don't get. Instead of brow beating and trying to shame men into supporting the league, why don't they get women to watch? They are the larger demographic.
They watch The Kardashians
I wouldn't trust that coming from a man. Ijs
@@jasonwolfe3252 They much prefer to manipulate and mooch off of men.
So an WNBA player wants to share the revenue... agreed... so each player can pay $35,000 a year to play
True!
Exactly
Sounds good
That's the reality of it but their ego's make it so that they don't understand it !
I wouldn't be surprised if they count the NBA's welfare check to them as "revenue". FOH
The ball is smaller, the three point line is closer, but somehow lowering the rim is offensive…🥴
Exactly what I was thinking. They just don't wanna have to adapt to a new game style. They just want to be rich and famous, but the money comes from ads and ads come viewer ratings. IF the WNBA stays the same, they bank account gonna too
LMAO LOSERS WNBA
And that player that was saying "we are young league only 25 years" she's actually hurting her case. The reason the nba started getting popular is because dudes like Wilk and Bill came along and started playing above the rim.
Right... make it make sense... oh right... its women we talking bout lol!
And they court not 94 feet
How they play in completely empty venues, sell no merch, and STILL think they deserve the same pay is crazy
women
That's what "entitlement" will do to a group of people, or people individually. You can see that in our government. I'll just leave it at that.
They don’t understand simple economics. The delusion makes me actively root for the league’s failure
maybe because they getting paid less I mean who is gonna put effort into something just to get paid low💀💀 men say this like it isn't common sense that nobody is gonna put effort if they're not getting paid well.
@@Ma007rk Idk how that is entitlement but ok😭😭 literally nobody is going to put effort into something to get paid bs. not even you so ig you entitled too.
“Don’t try to understand women. Women understand women and they hate each other.”- Al Bundy
Al bundy HAHAHAHA
Brilliant. Such a great show. It would never get made today because people are waaaaaay too uptight. It’s unfortunate.
The older I get, the less mad I am at that, and I'm a millenial.
@@mikahong ... Not sure you should be anywhere on the "mad spectrum" when it comes to that. Every woman you know is a narcissistic sociopath every one
Bill Burr's skit illustrates their true nature very clearly. Without a strong male influence in their lives they ultimately devolve into absurdity
Classic Al. Miss him big time. lol
I just hate how the WNBA just ignores that Brittney Griner committed a crime. Like it or not, other parts of the world have different rules and laws!
I'm no fan of Brittany but bro you gotta let that go y'all act like she kill someone. You probably did worst in this country and ain't do a day in jail.
@@Rey-gq2il You can get thrown in jail and killed in the middle east for being gay, you can also get arrested for minor offenses for being a woman. In Cuba, you can get 6 months to 2 years for small amounts of weed, 2-4 years for bigger amounts, and 15-30 years for international trafficking. Other countries have different rules, it isn't that hard to look them up to see what you can or can't do. Stop applying American law, culture, and logic to problems of other countries.
This is especially more important when you're in a country like Russia who is known for disliking America and being a dictatorship. The moment they can get someone to fuck up they throw them in jail and try and make them to fuck up more so they can get them more years and have other countries negotiate for their release (exactly what happened with Brittney). It happened once in North Korea with a US military and is once more happening again with another soldier. It has even happened in the United States.
@@Rey-gq2ilI cant stand the woman. But I'm not placing much weight on her supposed "Breaking Russian Law" narrative. Russia had an excuse they probably didn't care about before but in her case used it to gain some leverage.
@@Rey-gq2il It doesn't matter, it's a different country with different laws and penalties. You can say that their laws are too strict, but if you go there and break them that's your own fault.
@@Rey-gq2il I'd rather the prisoner swap be with one of our captured agents who is locked up and tortured for our country. She committed a crime in another country... yes there are other countries out there and they abide their own set of laws.
The thing that cracks me up is they play with:
A smaller ball
A smaller court
Less minutes per game
Less games per season
Yet somehow, lowering the rim is a bridge too far. 🤣
I'm a 5'6 dude, I would LOVE if the standrd rim was lowered so I can start dunking. 🤣
i mean court is the same size, lane/3 point line may be shorter
but i agree with rim but i want it at 9 feet
The 3-point line is also 2.5 feet closer than in the NBA.
They already only have 40 games a season
I WOULD RATHER WATCH A BOYS 6TH GRADE BASKETBALL GAME THAN THE WNBA GAME THESE WOKE LEFTIST BALL PLAYERS ARE SO DISIIUSSIONAL IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY IF IT WASN'T FOR THE NBA PUTTING MILLIONS INTO THIS CRAPPY LEAGUE THE WNBA WOULD HAVE BEEN DEAD YEARS AGO THESE WOMEN SHOULD THANK ALMIGHTY GOD THAT THEY ARE GETTING ANY KIND OF MONEY FOR PLAYING THIS BULLCRAP BRAND OF BASKETBALL THE WNBA TOTALLY STINKS 🦨🦨🦨🦨🦨
Candace, that child drop step dunking, will be a boy.
WNBA is a prime example of why humility is important. Stop comparing yourself to the nba y’all are different accept your differences and limitations and then you’ll reap the rewards
they earn more than doctors when they can't even do their job, entertain and play well, properly. Even street ball might be more entertaining than this
Also 75% of the players are masculine LGBT chicks. Who wants watch a bunch of women chest bumping, wearing baggy clothes and pretending to be men? The girls also get their attitudes from 🍆 envy. Their pride gets in the way.
@@mrparkx2"might be more entertaining"? It is😂😂
@@eamparbeng lmao
What’s funny to me is that the players would like everyone to believe they’ve never played on an outdoor court where the goals were rarely 10 ft. They can play with a smaller ball but are insulted being asked to play on a lower rim FOR MORE MONEY! The players should see it as an incentive to make it to the WNBA so they can start dunking on other players.
The NBA should apologize, and say “You’re right, you could run the WNBA better without us. So it’s better we go our separate ways and then you can generate all of your own revenue and pay people whatever you want.”
The WNBA is exactly like buying a homeless person a house to live in, then after a few years, they complain that their house isn’t as nice as yours.
If the WNBA lowered the rim, and were actually fun and likeable, the league would do 10x better. Remember back in the 2000s when the women’s soccer team were the darlings of America who’s matches were insanely popular, even more so than the men? It’s because they weren’t constantly whining and existing solely to be a victim.
The real problem is that lesbian Women don't wanna hear from straight men. The find it disrespectful and insulting.
But almost all the fans of all major sports are straight men. They effectively alienate their most major fan base cus of posturing.
And these dudes are the only people that care enough to try to help them and get smacked in the face for it.
@@shadow_realm47😂😂😂😂😂
@@user-vi5vd3ty9d :p hehe
@@shadow_realm47damn the cold truth. Facts. It's the gayness of the league more than anything. Young Boys don't want these women. They look rough plus gay. Let's keep it real. No eye candy
I’ll rather watch women in UFC ! No whining or complaining
They have a fit about a lower rim yet they already use a smaller ball.
Also, the WNBA three point line is 2.5 feet closer to the rim then the NBA
EXACTLY!!!!! Give their asses the Men Ball since they are equal to men.
@@dilly07-tradesmen77 Dont forget they also only play 40 minutes.
Don't they play less games too
@@djbobby224no point to play more games when revenue is down though, they'd be loosing more money.
An equal percentage of revenue would likely end up with them paying for the right to play.
They actually get paid a higher percentage of revenue than NBA players do 😂😂. Look it up
@@jordanjay1479 Way to flunk at reading comprehension. A higher percentage of a net loss would mean they would have to pay in order to play.
I'm pretty sure the WNBA takes their percentage out of the total revenue...not the revenue left after expenses are subtracted from profits. The majority of WNBA teams don't generate a profit...so their players need to be paid out of the total revenue generated and the NBA needs to subsidize the difference in order to make sure some teams don't go under.
If they were paid out of their profits...like most other sports leagues in the World...your point would be true. They'd either have to pay to play or teams would start folding because they couldn't afford to pay them.
This whole conversation is a great argument against YT comments. Too many of them have the value of the WNBA. WTF !!
_"Way to flunk at reading comprehension."_
Speak for yourself!
Revenue =/= profit
The WNBA profit reports a net loss, whereas the WNBA revenue reports a net gain.
"Revenue, also known simply as "sales", doesn't deduct any costs or expenses associated with operating the business. Profit is the amount of income that remains after accounting for all expenses, debts, additional income streams, and operating costs."
Perhaps you should brush up on your reading comprehension before trying to flame others for making a completely logical comment. Dunderklumpen!
Rob Parker said it best: for the WNBA to succeed, women have to care about it. Women gotta start buying WNBA tickets to go to games.
That's not gonna happen. Women only go to NBA games to watch players they want to sleep with. They care not about the game.
WNBA has to insert fashion and drama first. WNBA will have to be some sort of female reality show with a basketball setting. Tons of arguing and petty drama. WNBA will never sell on the sport alone.
lol huh if woman aren't supporting it now what makes you think it will change just because? lol the fact is its boring. it feels like watching a high school game at times. Also the NBA is the only reason they have salaries to begin with as they foot the bill for the negative revenue EVERY YEAR. so its actually SUPER INNAPPROPRIATE TO ASK FOR SAME PAY AS NBA LOL
@@nicholaswilkerson501their being coddled they need someone too straight tell them "you're losing money without the nba this league wouldnt have lasted as long as it did"
I asked a girl to go to a basketball game with me and said we could sit Courtside. She was all about it until she found out that it was the WNBA 😂😂😂
To sell Sports as entertainment, you need to entertain the audiences no matter whats gender the audiences are. If they entertained, they will pay the tickets
They're already using a smaller ball, the 3pt line is nearer, and they're playing shorter and fewer games. What's so different about lowering the rim?
I brought this up to my partner, and she was like "wait really?" I'm like yeah........they don't tell you that shit lol.
@@thereelpineapple and women DONT follow it ... - your story is a perfect example.
Very, very, legitimate point.. These WNBA chicks are completely tripped out!! If it wasn't for the NBA continually SUBSIDISING their ungrateful asses from top to bottom, they would have nothing at all.. Zero, nada, absolutely nothing.. They'd have to go elsewhere (overseas) if they wanted to continue playing organised basketball after finishing college.. But somehow, from their delusional point of view ----- FACTS like that shouldn't matter..
Women's professional golf has the tees not as far back as the men. 40 or 50 yard longer shots into greens would make for less dynamic shot making and scoring for the women on tour. It just makes so much more sense to have the rim a bit shorter. Find out what the vertical jump average is for men vs women and adjust. Or you could just experiment with a 9 1/2 rim or 9 1/4, and see the difference it makes. Could be a real positive. No sense in letting pride keep you from exploring opportunities to improve the game and make it more fun for the players and fans.
Without trying something new, we wouldn't have a shot clock, or a three point line.
It's one of those, "it's not what you said, it's how you said it so I'm going to disregard all the sense it makes and act angry until everybody says I'm right" situations, I think.
the fact it actually says 500k through 13 games is wild
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It's amazing to me how these women are supposed to be business professionals, yet they don't want to hear any constructive feedback. That's a scary thought for the league's survival.
They've obviously all failed economics because any business that doesn't turn a profit doesn't last, and especially doesn't depend on subsidies for survival.
Don't do that. You're mansplaining😂😂😂.
Its called being a female FEELINGS over LOGIC. You ever a female who is INTELLIGENT ?
U just answered your own question....MOST OF THEM ARE NOT BUSINESS PROFESSIONALS 🤨
@@acb9896if the NBA didn’t subsidize them, they wouldn’t lmao
The ego behind not wanting to shorten the rim is baffling to me. It’s one thing to stay steadfast with not wanting to. But, say it’s disrespectful to ask?….How?..😳
Lowering the rim won't do anything. Women still don't have the bounce as men. Women won't be dunking on other women. The majority of women still can't dunk. Look at their jump shots, most are push shots or flat footed. Look at block shots, most are flat footed. No elevation. Lowering the rim would just mean more dunks on fastbreak by people that are already dunking in the WNBA.
Just try to get most women to understand they are wrong is just about impossible they will forever blame men for problems they create !
Wannabe studs
Lowering the rim just hurts both women and men. The way these weak generations of men move they are going to constantly play on the women’s rims and ruin the mens game. Add that all the high school and playground rim’s would end up at the woman’s height, because society has to cater to women. The height change would mess up the mens game as well.
@@kennethsmith6367no it wouldn’t. The women’s balls are smaller (Ha), the 3 point line is closer, the seasons are shorter, and the games are shorter. Lowering the rim wouldn’t change the NBA or men’s leagues at all.
One word, entitlement. It turns fans off.
They don't wanna day the other elephant in room linked with entitlement. Even feminists ain't supporting them in mass
The WNBA is this close to being a really hard Final Jeopardy category.
I remember in an interview when Lisa Leslie said that NBA players should donate part of their salaries to WNBA players. Room full of dudes including Lebron and all of them just nodded their heads and pretended they thought it was a valid point when you know for damn sure they were thinking "This chick is trippin". Only Draymond had the balls to say what he was thinking and call her out for being childish and unrealistic.
They already do
Draymond is a real one for calling that out. You could tell it wasn’t the first time he heard someone say that lol
They do is the funniest thing. The league is financed by the men's
Shid but that's a good idea. They are a collection of "rich friends" that could help funding a league that one day their children or grandchildren can actually have a league they are proud of. Having players constantly go to the games. Show up to events people would flock as well. If I had a women's team here in Baltimore. I would go all the time. Even more if the others team stars were promoted and I knew who was in town.
Dray would be a menace in the WNBA
Coaches should lower the rims before practice to 9.5 ft and see if there is a difference in their games. If you're a professional athlete, you should be able to adjust to whatever is thrown at you. The WNBA players, most of them, are delusional but, I'm sure that there are some that agree with the lowered rim solution. They are probably afraid of the backlash they'll most likely receive from their peers
Just kills me how they draw the damn line at the rim thing when they already play with a smaller ball, shorter 3-point lines and play for less amount of time compared to men during an individual game.
@@nothingreallyrhymeswithora9377right
😂😂😂😂😂 fisher price basketball goal level for them
I say 9.3 ft just to give them a little extra advantage. Women have compensate for both the lack of height and the lack of vertical, average height in wnba is half a foot less than the WNBA, and the average vertical is 9 inches less than the average NBA vertical. So the WNBA is on average at almost a foot and a half disadvantage when comparing height + vertical
@@Stej-i7m 9ft even and call it a day.
Plus they've followed some of these ladies to streetball games and proven that a lot of outdoor courts vary from 9.5-10.3ft in height. It's never exact and players adjust.
I love when they say “we should get paid an equal share of the revenue”. I’ve never seen someone fight to have to pay to do their job.
OK LADIES, SEASON'S OVER... HERE IS THIS YEAR'S BILL FOR THE COURT TIME. SPLIT IT AMONG YOURSELVES AS Y'ALL SEE FIT !!
They don't wanna be compared to men yet many try to emulate men in their appearance and demanor... The Wiggins revalation didn't help either. Make it make sense....
That's why they say revenue, not profits
They say that, thinking that they sound smart, but they actually highlight how little they understand about business. More "revenue", which the WNBA does have (not much though), going to the players, means less money going to the owners, which means that the owners would loss even more money then they are already.
Well, revenue is the top line, not net income. But yes, a business has to generate money bottom line, before sharing of the pie talk happens.
That prisoner exchange still is just a mind-blowing thing to know happened. In the history books it will be written down that a basketball player legit broke another country's laws, got a sentence that people thought was too harsh, so we traded a famed international war criminal, at one time the most wanted man in the world, prolific to the point that movies have been based on him, so that the basketball player didn't have to serve their sentence for their actual crime.
Well when you put it that way the U.S.'s actions sound almost silly.
They did it to get minority votes
Who cares? So she had some weed. Male sports players have literally murdered people and basically gotten away with it.
Some SERIOUS double standards here.
@pittland44 why? She's an American citizen. If it was a popular male basketball player everyone would have been rioting to get him back.
@@cinimatics She committed a crime. Biden wanted her back to get the minority vote
Candace parker blatantly lying when saying "my daughter will be able to dunk on NBA rims" is the height of this arrogance
if her daughter had testicles maybe
Yeah that’s a delusional ideologue speaking right there. Nothing said using basic logic of any kind. So many being brainwashed by the liberal MSM these days.
Are u sure ? She can dunk herself , on a 10ft rim. So her offspring dunking ain't so far fetched..
@@jimmirogers3485 doesn’t change the arrogant speak. We don’t know if her offspring can or not because it hasn’t been proven. Fact is the majority of females cannot, so logic says no. Arrogance.
If her girl 👧 it’s 2,01 and more maybe…but again our bodies are build different
I love how every background montage behind every WNBA video is alway the players endlessly airballing.
It happens so often it's hard to find different videos.
@@BrianFerguson-vs2bn bro I wish... I actually watched some games... id they airballed all the time I'd be funny at least. In reality it's like a league for 40 to 50yo men who are very out of shape, run around slowly and the most exciting thing to see is a layup...
And yes I know they're actually very athletic, but watching it compared to men's league it seems like they're playing in slow motion
@@aw2584 Mhmm. Probably a lot of high school boys teams could beat the WNBA champs.
The #1 thing plaguing the WNBA is an enormous lack of self-awareness of its players. I support women’s sports and always will but you can’t force people to like it or financially support it. It has to be desirable to watch.
Who's forcing you to watch the WNBA? I want names.
I am completely oblivious to it, and I don't see anyone trying to shame me into watching it.
@@ctormin He said it badly but I think what he means is when they complain about viewership or money they have this sense of entitlement, that they deserve the perks no matter what the product is like. Which is dumb lol
The WNBA has only 1 problem: A profitability problem.
Those who are gay almost always lack self-awareness. Entire wnba is gay so that’s why they are all arrogant and have no self-awareness they have no shame
@@josephinetracy1485I think that's way oversimplifying things, especially given this is commented on a video that outlines a number of different issues 🤣
Why no one ever ask them what is 20% of 0?
I don't understand the point that they want a bigger share of league revenue when the league loses money. If the NBA wasn't subsidizing them the WNBA would've folded long ago. Are they willing to pay to play until the league is financially viable? 25% of nothing and 50% of nothing are the same number, nothing.
$$$$ Talks. They don't care about the logistics..they just want to get more and more money like anyone else. They just don't care or know that they actually have to work for it. They want to keep doing what they are already doing and get paid more for nothing. They don't care where the money comes from. It's like when you hand a 5 year old $20. Yes that's a lot until they use it all and then want more..the five year old doesn't care how you got that money, don't care what you did for it, they just want more. They have no concept of hard work or the value of money. Same thing here. Their checks are handed to them..if it came from their own hard work they would not be so entitled, like a 5 year old. They would understand they have to do something to make that $$$.
Math is r **ist & s**ist😂😂😂
Revenue is not the same as profit/loss. The WNBA does make revenue off of ticket sales, merchandise, concessions, advertising, tv deals, etc. What they don't do is turn a profit because they spend more than they make in revenue, which is where the NBA comes in to bail them out. The women want the WNBA to give a share of the revenue BEFORE they pay their bills, in essence making the WNBA lose astronomically more money each season than they already are. No one ever accused these ladies of having logic or reason backing their ideas.
@@Cynthorrpg1bra,everything u said was basic economics. What did these bops do in school?
When something isn't working, you need to make some kind of change. The unwillingness to adapt is agreeing with failure. I guess it's easier to make excuses and play the victim than to actually change something. Even if they don't want to lower the rim, they have to acknowledge something needs to change
Also 75% of the players are masculine LGBT chicks. Who wants watch a bunch of women chest bumping, wearing baggy clothes and pretending to be men? The girls also get their attitudes from 🍆 envy. Their pride gets in the way.
Just like the pre pandemic, either businesses adjust to the new lifestyle, or die
@@curtiswilson4737😐
What kills me is when people say they should make more money. Then I ask..”do you watch the games…buy merchandise, attend games”?
They say no….i then end the conversation
College players don’t want to enter the draft until they play all 6 years of college - that says enough for me
They also are cutting the young girls early. You would think the league would make it a point to keep them on to at least feed off their hype coming out of college but narh..... I guess
@@isaacasamoa927 true. They need to adjust the game, or they need to adjust the way they operate. Something has to give. Can’t expect to just take take take take with all this whining. Not to mention most families have not adopted this Gay Agenda/Lesbian Agenda the United States is pushing…so that means homes with Men as Dads refuse to take their daughters to those games to see women dressed as men and kissing women and being in relationships with women on their social medias (because young fans will follow socials of players they admire). I know of house holds with single mothers as well who refuse to go to the games because of that. They rather take them to NBA so they can see men act like men do men things, so their daughters can like things about a player that are in line with their beliefs. I personally don’t have an opinion either way, in terms of the specialization of the WNBA toward being masculine. I only wonder if the game was more adept to their abilities overall, it would be good for fans. Yes there is a group of 3 women who can dunk, but the other 2,600 players can’t. The ball is smaller, make the rim bigger, bring the basket lower, make the court shorter and add a 4 point spot on each wing of the court. And every time a woman makes 5 shots in a row weather lay ups or jump shot, give them “On Fire” extra point. Have to try something….because this is not working. 30 years have proven that.
An education might pay more
@@danieltdavis9788 - NIL pays more than WNBA
Wait, 6?
this one quote from a fgc video sticks to me until today
"we want to watch basketball not professional hot potato"
I was a practice player for a d1 women’s college team-loved every minute of it. While I probably have more respect for women’s hoops than most, I do find it strange that women’s players are offended by lowering the rim😂 the ball is smaller, 3pt line closer, etc.
they know they're already being unreasonable. Its nothing but argumentative boss-chicks
They can’t dunk bro either way.
It’s the bodies bro,men and women are build different.
Let em cry it’s a fact male sports are desirable.women are smart they can stick with that.
@@Wolverine.848 with a lower rim they would be able to dunk
@@eshoosca yep
But it’s gonna be funny 😆
@@eshooscaonly some would be able. There is not one man In the NBA that can’t dunk . Spud Webb was 5’6 and could dunk for Fucxks sake. There are women 6’4 all day and still CANT dunk.
I say let em get the percentage.. matter fact give em 50% of the revenue.... They gonna be mad when instead of a check they get a bill😬
Exactly 💯 this shows you how illogical to these females are. There losing money not making any money.
In my whole 45 years, I've NEVER heard a friend or a friend of a friend say "lets go watch a WNBA game" lol 😅
I met a player, named Beard? In Korea. We were getting our hair, micro braided. Super Sweet. We didn't talk about Basketball at all. They don't fill overseas either, back then. You NEVER will. Not even if the tickets are free. I think I went to one, it was in Grammer school. We watched them and asked them questions afterwards. People asked them to do Globetrotters tricks. "Can you..." It was 3 other classes there from other schools. No one watched the game. Sad. And, shame on Us.
That ever happens, reassess your Friendship, Immediately
@@dwightcurrie8316 Big Facts LMAO
@@dwightcurrie8316Hell no. IDGAF about overrated highlights. Sports are entertainment after all and i paid a league pass to be entertain and to enjoy it and not to be bored. I don't wanna see a lot of airballs as a highlight in ESPN unless if Caitlyn Clark choose to go pro. She's the only one girl that brings entertainment in girls basketball for crying out loud.
@@reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee1 You Ain't Wrong
If women got paid based on Wnba revenue they would owe the league money 😂
The NBA today looks different from where it started. Rules were changed to bring in a wider audience. Three point line. No more discrimination. Breakaway rims. Better shoes. Shot clock. Owners investment in players and facilities. Pros in Olympics. Foreign players. These things took time and dedication if they wanted the league to survive. Good luck WNBA but I don't believe in it
What's crazy is that when you compare the clip of Lisa Leslie dunking to all the other more recent clips, you can see a noticeably large difference in audience attendance
I don't watch mediocrity in sports, but now when it's been made clear the wnba is jammed with players that have a child-like line of thinking they have become a joke.
Bet you watch little league baseball
Why should they waste time entertaining stupid ideas?
G League has dunking; few watch that.
Same for NCAA and HS.
@@darrengordon-hill I like women so I watch WNBA. Plain and simple some of them cute too. And they all have the fundamentals. It's a trend to not like the WNBA or women's sports in general. When katie Ledecky was winning all those gold medal they questioned whether the swimming pool was shorter than the mens. Shortening the court is only going to give haters more ammo
@@darrengordon-hill and a lot of people watch ncaa 😂 their games sell out collages make a fuck ton of profit from the games they get more in person and tv viewership then the wnba and if hs games were televised people would watch it over the wnba
@@kyledixontvbut women allready play with a smaller ball shorter 3 point line and shorter quarters its allready not the same as the nba its not equal so the pay should also be not equal thats the same as me complaining a triple xl doesnt fit cause im to short the problem is not the piece of clothing
Lowering the rim is the coolest thing for us short dudes. We played full court on 8' 6" hoop outdoor court in Kailua Hawaii in 86 we even had fans around the park watching us all the time. When you can finger roll like George Gervin and dunk like chocolate thunder and Dr. J. it was nice and the fans loved it. The fans didn't give 1 ish the rims weren't 10 feet high.
On a short rim. Good for you.
We had a WNBA player visit our college class way back in 2002. I asked her about lowering the rim and she handled it very well. I don't recall her exact answer, but she didn't act offended or anything like that. She was chill. Times have changed.
Dam you’re old dude
rather than ask them about lowering the rim as this could trigger a lot but how about ask when are we going to start seeing the excitement of dunks like the NBA does?
It won’t happen because women on average are shorter and have slower twitch muscles so lowering the rim is actually the right thing to do ,NBA was tailored for men , the size of the ball,the time and the rim were tailored for men ,they should do the same thing for women which in my opinion lower the rim and decrease the size of the ball will only help the excitement in the WNBA .
@Omar-kl3xp the ten foot rim was meant for an average sized person. The NBA should raise it at least a foot to better fit the athletes in the pros.
@pyramidion5911 this was masterclass trolling, and you almost got me
Im still baffled that we traded the merchant of death for a lady man that has a deeper voice than James Earl Jones
Amen. That's a man, baby!
That was an embarrassment.
Id hit it tbh
This isn’t just a WNBA issue. This is a great look into the issues with modern feminism in general. Tons of arrogance & refusal to accept reality. Lot of victimizing themselves instead of taking accountability/action.
Yeah and all the men do is complain, be dismissive, and apply double standards.
If men got treated the way they get treated there would be an absolutely epic tantrum.
A LOT of truth in this post!
What are you talking about?
Bro, great comment!
This argument is lazy. And I'm a dude.
College women basket ball is successful cuz play with passion and actually make layups and 3 pointer ....wbna fundamentals is on a jr high level of basketball
The WNBA got a huge boost because of sports prop gambling. With little competition MLB and WNBA are the sports to bet on during the summer.
That’s a good point
Whose gonna make the odds when no one watches .. it's all a crap shoot lol
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@@criticaljacques2237that’s why you always go under on everything, Gilbert arenas goes under on almost every stat he sees a spread for and hits 60% of the time.
Yeah if you’re a gambling addict… betting makes most things fun to watch, but I still couldn’t watch this trash
A little over 10 years ago, I got free WNBA tickets for a Sacramento Monarchs game. My daughter said, "No, I'm Okay." Keep in mind. The Kings sucked and the Monarchs just won the championship the previous year.
Women don't watch sports in general, they wouldn't even have known. It's like, none of my gfs got excited for a marvel film because it was female lead. They still didn't care because women generally don't! SMH. I'd buy a WBNA ticket if all the women in the league came out against feminism and glorifying where culture. Like, be WORTH attention instead of whining about it.
I remember that. I lived in Sacramento but I didn't even know the monarchs won the championship.
They complain that they dont want to change the rim to make it easier to play. Nobody points out the fact that the wnba ball is slightly smaller and lighter than the nba ball. This is to make it easier to dribble and pass, and easier for the ball to get in the hoop. They just need to make it easier to dunk. Nobody would lose respect for them and the game would become waaay more enjoyable
Can't lose what you didn't have.
What respect
@@tyeash7822 lol
This aged well.
Took my family to a WNBA game a couple years ago, worst attitudes ive seen in sports besides the USA women's soccer team(shocking I know) The next problem was that there was nobody in the stands and whatever your picturing it was less, much less. Finally my kids who (two girls and one boy) all play basketball, seriously thought it was some kind of opposite world Globetrotters i believe my daughter called it, because where as the Globetrotters make everything and are all fancy with amazing ball control,this was not that! Not that at all! Missing open shots, layups, turn overs,even free throws weren't made consistently. To this day my kids are older and know about the WNBA and its a huge topic at family get togethers about how we warped into another dimension and watched an opposite world basketball game lol
It's funny how the women's sports that contain the highest concentration of lesbians than any other profession in the world also happens to contain the most self-absorbed, delusional, unlikeable, and entitled athletes on the face of the earth.
The fact the WNBA is a point of discussion at family get togethers for you is concerning
Most of the WNBA players have an attitude problem when regular people and people that know the game wants to give their opinions on how the league can be fixed but the main issue here with this WNBA players is that even Woman don't back them up is a boring league and that's the TRUTH
I was never a WNBA fan, but I would at least tune in if nothing better was on, once a year maybe.
Then that one player disrespected Andre Iguodala with serious attitude AFTER HE TRIED TO COMPLIMENT HER PLAY.
After that I swore it off permanently...true, NBA players aren't all good people, but at least the basketball is fun to watch. But the WNBA's crappy people AND crappy basketball? Nah, I'll just nap from now on.
I do sympathize with them. It must suck being the best of the best at something in your gender while still being worse than some high school boys. Especially as an athlete. And there’s nothing you can do about it.
not really, you think Serina Williams think that????
@@lincolnjeon2666 ya shes admitted in her prime she thought she’d be ranked in around 800th in the world for mens
@@lincolnjeon2666 Her and her sister were both beaten 6-1 and 6-2 by the 203rd ranked mens player in 1998. I don't think you could've picked a much worse example for males vs females in sport.
you're drunk. go home. @@lincolnjeon2666
@@lincolnjeon2666 It's a biological fact that women are just not as athletic as men. It's literal science.
How is lowering the rim offensive again???
Isn’t good revenues the first priority here? Entertainment equals revenue so why not just lower the rim? This shouldn’t be the players decision. Lower the rim and whoever doesn’t like it, they don’t have to play.
WNBA players are forgetting that their talents are valuable for entertainment purposes only. If not for entertainment, their talents mean nothing except for being a form of exercise or hobby. So if WNBA players want to get paid, their first priority should be on being entertaining and not their ego.
I love the delusion and in your face attitude of WNBA players. Keep on doing what they do.
And yet....many wnba players go out of their way to BE men. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You can't fix stupid
@@cpthetrucker9067yep. They act like the biggest frat bros far more than anyone in the nba
@@bryantsteury8910 exactly. "Bro" women like Bob G, Diana T and Kelsey Plum are just a couple of examples; not to mention the players who have literally had their bodies surgically altered to look like men.
its funny that they keep complaining about our push for them to get more dunks in their game but i think they dont want to add it because theyre scared of dealing with lob threats and more schemes that require you to gaurd air space as well as floor space
That’s a very real possibility. Entitled people usually want all the benefits without actually having to put in the work
Your overthinking it way too much their just stubborn bitches pissed off because their not as good as men!
You are stating facts tho 😂😂
Women Dunking on other Women would be Hella Entertaining🔥🔥
I think we’re missing an important aspect. It’s that people have limited slots(time) for hobbies/interests.
WNBA has to be chosen over all the other sports (not just NBA), not just sports (Netflix, Amazon prime, Reddit, instagram…etc).
So can they be interesting enough for ppl to proactively choose WNBA over all other entertainments?
I don’t know why ppl want to make this male vs. female, nba vs. wnba, dumb genderism….. it’s not.
She really tried to throw a alley oop lay up in the highlight before the 2:00 mark😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
As somebody who doesn’t watch the wnba, you are 100% correct. Just watching those clips of wnba players makes me not even want to give it a chance.
Let one guy play for each team. I'd watch that.
He can claim to be trans or whatever lol
i don’t mean to rude but there’s just a way that men’s ball is played that just has so much more finesse and style. you rarely see airballs in HS varsity or even JV games but you see tons in professional women’s basketball. at my highschool the girls air ball more than the guys make threes, and we shoot 50% as a team
@@GeronimoPlaz so Brittney Griner? lol
@@GeronimoPlazI think trans women are the only thing that can truly save the WNBA. Needs to become a league dominated by biological men.
How the NBA hasn’t said okay do it yourself then is beyond me
I'm sure some accounting magic makes the loss lower their tax burden or something 😂
@@JohnDoe-zw8vxyou got that one right! I don’t believe for one second that the wnba even pulls the numbers this guy said they did
One of the male players should sue for sex discrimination.
They're in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. As soon as they cut it loose, people would come out of the woodwork to complain that women aren't supported - people who never watch a single game, mind you. So the NBA just pays the small "tax" to prop it up. What's mind-blowing is that more in the WNBA don't see this and have the sense to take what they get from the NBA. And if they want more, figure out how to do it by making their league more exciting. Instead, they exploit the tenuous link to the NBA at every opportunity to guilt more money for their players. It's just professional gold digging.
They'd never hear the end of it.
If they got paid a percentage of what the league makes they would owe the league money.
There’ve been 23 triple doubles TOTAL in 27 wnba seasons. That’s astonishing. Not exactly an electric factory.
they always say “but the fundamentals are great”
lmao middle school games are more exciting than wnba
Can't get assists if the players can't shoot. They can't shoot for shit.
They also have a serious attitude problem.
The NBA players are receiving higher percentage of revenue because they have “leverage”. Exciting games, popular players, multiple work stoppages, etc. It was hard earned. The WNBA players basically want the same without leverage. If there was a work stoppage or strike, they would just shut the league down
Actually the wnba players get a higher percentage… because the league loses money every year and they still get paid.
Hpw cam u ask for the same percentage when u haven't been around long enough and constantly in the red every year?
Ive actually watched a few games for the first time this year and its worse than i thought! Its HILARIOUS!
Bro me and my homies have it a chance and it was a comedy show 🤦🏽♂️
I've sat and watched entire games of the old middle school teams "north coast blue chips" which had bronny James, Mikey Williams and etc and enjoyed it. And I also regularly watch entire games of men's highschool games. I've tried the WNBA and turned It off after a quarter shit was ass and I never clicked on anothe WNBA game
@lomasuros exactly... it's such am insulting joke... if "Equality" really was the GOAL, they would be told the TRUTH... if MEN were THAT bad, there wouldn't be a league!!!
Watching this video is the most WNBA basketball I’ve watched in one sitting 🤣. Barely made it, the hilarity of it all kept me till the end
Realize that Lisa Leslie played in the very first wnba game ever and had an opportunity to dunk in that game but came up short. The very first game could've had a dunk in it. She ended up being the first to ever dunk in the league YEARS later. I was watching both games live on tv. I'm the same age as Leslie and knew about her since high school when she scored 100 points.
I grew up in the 80's watching Cheryl Miller too. Women's basketball actually had fans back in the day and they weren't acting entitled either from what I remember. Today's generation of young women are completely entitled which has turned off even old school fans like myself who were their greatest supporters at one time, old school men.
The past 15 years or so have seen the largest gain of entitlement. This group of wnba players grew up with the wnba existing, a goal to go pro actually existing. With it they stopped striving to be better then the generation before them. They became content and then expectant.
No, they've always been entitled brats.
The WNBA had small momentum in late 90s where even I myself watched. Then fast forward they then stopped caring abt their image and wanna be fake woke
True. The Current Players and Most Of The Coaches are Just Plain TOXIC. They behave like Government Employees, who can't Be Fired without a tremendous effort. Like the current layers, whose Places are Very Secured as long as they go along with, if not participate in the "Alphabet Behavior & Activism. Word is the Current Crop of Players aren't all about Accepting a Straight Player Into The Fold and nurturing her Talent and Performance. Seem Two Teams have to be Played On in order to be accepted.................This Is Cult Like Behavior and has Poisoned The WNBA, to the point that one current "Star" blithely Stated, "Nobody is really retiring so fans will get to see the same thing for a longer time" or words to that Exact Same Effect. Unless you really are Playing at the Elite level Continuously like MJ, Bird, Shaq, Magic, Etc. were/are, Nobody with a spot on the Team Roster should "Get Comfortable" EVER> The lady I spoke of commented, Unintentionally, to the Complacency that permeates, and has eroded the WNBA in so many ways. Take an Honest Look at the "Conditioning" of the Players. They must run a whole lot to be able to Bumble back & forth across the Court like they do, from Air Ball To Air Ball & Their stamina to do that at least is a good thing, BUT A further look takes in the "Almost" Total lack of Tone in their Limbs(Both Legs and Arms). The Muscular Tone in both their arms and legs is not Easily Seen(It Largely Doesn't Exist, or Can't Be Seen, at least). Both Legs and arms show very little, if any Tone Or Definition are not "Well Defined", or just Defined. Nope. Not That Either. If you discount their Height and compare almost any WNBA "Baller?" with any other "Regular Woman who might Exercise A Little On Occasion, there is No Difference in their appearances. This is either from WNBAers being Genetic Anomalies, Freaks Of Nature, OR They Don't Work Out with the purpose of adding whatever Musculature that's needed to Play Basketball at an Elite Level, which would surely add to the Tone and definition of their easily seen Arms And Legs....Wouldn't it? I know they don't want Schwarzenegger like Muscles. That type of Muscle would Hinder rather than help their performance on the course, so the training has to be Specific toward Better Balling, but a Woman with a Gut waddling around the court isn't Ideal either.....Is It? I'm trying to be fair, and freely admit that my knowledge of Genetics and Musculature, is second only to my lack of knowledge(First Hand) at Elite Level B-Ball Performance Enhancement & how to put together the Complete "Package" of a perfect Female B-Baller is accomplished. While my Peers were playing Basketball, which was Very Popular & Closely Followed in my Small Rural Community during the 1950s & 60s(Think "Friday Night Lights" Mindset and Mania, but with Financially Challenged Southern Farm Boys And Girls) I was At The Rodeo or Working Horses for Myself and others who were into Showing & Competing Horse Critters, and keeping my Ass attached to the Hurricane Deck of Both Rank Broncs And Bucking Bulls. Both my Brother and Sister(The Ladies Played Half Court Back Then) were quite good a Basketball, and my Parents went to some Away Games, but Every Single Home Game, so I began watching the games very early in life. B-Ball was The Only Sport my small school had enough students to form a viable Team(No football team Ever, and no Track team until I was a HS Junior in 1967. I went every Ball Game I could all throughout my School Years, so I'm not a Neophyte, but my real interests lay with Horse Critters. Even with Very Hard Work and A Bunch Of TRY, I couldn't have turned B-Balling into a career, by any means, but I was good enough to earn my living(Missed Meal Cramps weren't unheard of though) off Riding Broncs and Bulls(Mostly Broncs...Horses With Bad Attitudes) and Training Horses, for well over a Decade after graduating from both High School and Uncle Sugar's Navy(The Draft And Veeetnaaaaam, Republic Of, and The Draft Were A Thing Back Then). Let's jut say I know enough about B-Ball(I also am No Stranger to the type of conditioning, Muscle Memory and Strength training needed to Compete Against Very Good Opponents) to be able to see what is working and what isn't AND The WNBA Isn't Working. The Players, for the most part appear rather Flaccid in their physical appearance, agility an overall performance. College Female Basketball Players appear far better Conditioned and more Serious and Dedicated to their chosen sport. Shouldn't it be The Other Way Around? Is there something I'm Missing here??? If someone will kindly enlighten me as to what it is I'm Missing, I'll be Grateful.
This guy been watching the WNBA for years and he is still alive, my god, get this man a medal, he deserves it.
Cathy Engelbert is the Commissioner needs to go to take classes from Roger Caddell on how to run a league, this is absolutely ridiculous. These girls have a chance to start making some real money but half of them would cut their own nose off to spite their face.
What's crazy in their logic too is the NBA itself has experimented with raised rims because it was too easy for the men to score. Also the NBA has had paramount changes that players absolutely hated, I.e the three point line 3 seconds in the paint. The NBA right now is going through a crisis losing long time fans for the same reasons the WNBA cant get fans is the ridiculous number of 3 points shots. So the idea the WNBA is perfect and just need people to sit there and watch the game whether they like it or not is absurd. The rims need to be lowered to 9ft, which will also increase blocks which is something I dont see people talk about which is another part of the game that people love watching. This happens to literally every women's sports league which a male equivalent see the independently owned women's hockey league that went bankrupt. Despite all of that the people who suffer are the staff the trainers equipment managers maintenance. Who are the first to get laid off or have to take a paycut because of their refusal to accept change, even though they basically demand the fans change their expectations of what the game of basketball is.
It's amazing how they will argue to the deepest extent about their refusal to lower the rim, but you can find countless clips of them attempting alley oops, which end in lay ups, or attempted dunks which often fail.
But they don't want to dunk in the WNBA if you go by what they say.
But this is basically saying the same things I've been saying about the WNBA in any educated discussion about why it's failing beyond the whole "the women can't play argument".
WNBA is UNINTENTIONALLY HILARIOUS!!!
Parker's response to Shaq is one of the most comical responses ever " oh, my second kid will dunk in 2040, you just WAIT for it" uhh yeahhhh ok
Women don't make sense
5:53 I love her complete non-answer to the question on top of just being rude about it. There was no better way for dude to raise the very legitimate suggestion
Everytime i watch a game there's about 20 air balls and about 30 missed layups🙄
Why would you subject yourself to watching in the first place? It’d rather watch paint dry lol
Not making major changes to failing business is baffling
They even increased the number of games played from 30something to 40.
One year later and this video is more relevant now than ever.
This past season, Caitlin Clark’s rookie year, has put a huge spotlight on the issues and lack of professionalism plaguing the league.
Between the aggressive players, the biased referees, lazy coaches, hateful announcers and player’s terrible attitudes, it’s no surprise that the league operates in a constant net negative.
The abuse and hostility shown to one rookie puts yet another stain on the already lackluster league. Abhorrent and shameful.
Watching their games is just condoning their behavior therefore I will never support them in any way. Clark should leave when her contract is up. They don’t deserve her
You've hit the nail on the head and the rim height discussion just highlights it. It's an attitude problem. The women want to play like the men and they suck at it. Lowering the rim would absolutely help the women be more exciting like the men, but I don't feel like that's the solution. They'll always be worse than the men and college for that reason.
The women need to embrace what has historically made the women's game great. The disparity between the best and worst player on the floor is much much smaller. They cannot run the iso-game because there aren't enough dominant women to do it and help defense exists. What has made the women's game entertaining for years is how team oriented it has been. Some people say it's a focus on fundamentals, but it's more that it's old school team basketball. Quick passes, drive and dish, help defense, etc. all make for a more entertaining product. While the NBA and NCAAM are pushing for superstars to have highlights, the women can market themselves are pure old school basketball. Nobody is ever going to watch an inferior product by choice, but they will watch a slightly different product because it offers something different.
The problem is, the individuals want to be superstars and not just team players. They're so focused on status that they've lost sight of sport.
As a side note, ticket prices need to come down, efforts need to be made to interact with fans, and they need to humble themselves to the fact they are going to have to work and do fan outreach to grow the sport. Soccer, men's and women's, does this. Minor League teams do it. If you don't have the fanbase, you need to go make one.
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This is the answer. Lowering the rim to 9.5 is good.
But until the wnba realizes that their product isn't the same as the NBA, it won't matter.
What made the women's tournament in March 2023 so great was because we saw great teams of one play style go up against a great team with a different play style.
For fans of basketball, it was fascinating and fun to watch.
We were watching teams play. We weren't watching super stars. Though, that was how they tried to market the final 4. It wasn't about that LSU girl versus that Iowa girl.
It was about those 2 really good teams and how they matched up against the rest of of the feild.
I've tried to watch the wnba. It's unwatchable. It's not a team game. It's trash.
They need to get college coaches and let them really recruit to their philosophy.
@@carpedm5107 and I'm sure you'll say mostly the same about the NBA. It's not a team game and it's not really basketball. But it's the best and most exciting at what it is which is why it gets watched still.
I aint reading all this
Imagine losing your boss millions of dollars a year do to lack of performance but then asking for a raise 😂
this is the generation coming up expecting mandatory raise.
@@PWCDN bruh what are you on about? We're asking to be able to earn enough to survive the never stopping inflation and buy houses. Is there really a problem with that?
@@whalefall413 Find another job then like 99 % of the rest of us have to do. WNBA is and always has been a money pit. If not for the NBA there would be no wnba.
It's the plays that get me every time. They play like they are afraid of getting scratched or scratching the other player lol whereas the guys just charge through defenders and defenders aren't afraid to take a hit to get a foul call
10:00 -OMG that dunk was vicious. That man will never recover psychologically
My favorite WNBA story will forever be the Seattle team holding their championship parade in the pouring Puget Sound rain for less then 100 people in a convoy of soccer mom station wagons, waving out of the open trunks.
And then they went home and made samwhiches
"I DON'T WANT PEACE! I WANT PROBLEMS ALWAYS!!!" LOL
Whatever attendance increase in the WNBA is likely largely due to the exposure provided by Bill Burr’s iconic routine about the league featured on UA-cam.
I remember in highschool our most athletic girl was actually very feminine. You would have sworn she was a debutante, you would not have guessed she was the fastest, most coordinated, and highest jumper. She was very pretty and easy to talk too. In fact, if she wanted to be a professional athlete I'm sure she could have made the WNBA.
We went to the same highschool as Buster Posey and the Olympic Gold medalist Kellen Ludwig. None of these accomplished athletes had the chip on their shoulder possessed by the women in this video.
I also notice these women try to mimic the movement of men to their best ability. Yet men and women have different skeletal structures, which means these women are actually hindering their athletic performance, by trying to be more masculine. The lady I mentioned above didn't do this and she dominated the girls who were mimicking male movements 20 years ago.
These girls also seem like they trying to act as they think a male would act. I know this is going to sound weird but it looks to me like these ladies, actually secretly worship men to the point where they want to be men, yet still want men to find them attractive.
There is a reason they mimic men…🫵🏽 know why
@@corecrit3007 Because they don't understand the limitations or advantages of their anatomy. Also, because most women don't have inquisitive minds when it comes to physics.
Youre right about them trying to move like the men. Also, there are not very many WNBA players wanting a male to look at them, if you know what I mean.
what the hell are you talking about
Bruh, the very real reason for that is a majority of WNBA players are gay. That's why they have masculine tendencies. Also why most of the are interested in hoops to begin with. I'm not saying heterosexual woman can't or don't like sports, but it's less common as the more feminine you are, the less interested you tend to be in competition overall.
I can honestly say lowering the rims would not peak my interest whatsoever. I don't think ramping up the masculinity more than it already is, along with their attitudes, would change much. If I'm watching women's sports I would choose figure skating, tennis, and volleyball and probably a few others before women's basketball. If I want to watch basketball I'd choose men's college basketball first, nba, overseas pro leagues, and finally the G league long before the wnba. Maybe just maybe if they were to go back and have the attitude of the first players in the nba, nfl, nhl, etc...who would have played even if they weren't paid and just enjoyed the game, they would learn to be grateful for what they have and actually enjoy what they do instead of being so set on what they are entitled to.
Women gymnastics: don't do the Pummel Horse.
Nobody: calls this "misogyny".
Women excel at grace, balance and flexibility , so they do the balance beam.
And most of them are teenagers
Exactly 💯 skating, tennis, and volleyball are sports that allows females to keep there feminity.
Agree with everything you say
It shows the difference in men and women. At 5’6” I could get as close to dunking as these women. And that was in high school
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GIVE OUT HAND OUTS TO ENTITLE-MINDED PPL.
Love this. I've been saying for 20 years that they need to lower the rim. Not having the dunk available on a regular basis is baffling. It's like taking the home run out of baseball, the big pass play from football and the knockout from boxing. If the NBA didn't have the dunk for the past 50 years, it wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is. Also, it's interesting that some become offensive when the idea of lowering the rim is brought up when the WNBA already uses a smaller basketball and plays 40-minute games compared to 48 for men.
It’s impossible because they would all spend their entire lives shooting on 10 foot rims and then moving to 9 feet would ruin their jump shots
@@Th1sIsMyLegacyFor a little while yes, but long term lower the rim would lead to more dunks & more shots made which in turn will make the league more appealing to viewers. Remember the WNBA isn't just a sport its a business & to make money you need fans, to get more fans you more flashy plays & more consistent shooting. If only they swallow their pride & accept 10ft is too high forr 99% of the Women they'd get paid more money.
After all her moaning and bitching, watch Bianna Stewart's mile wide smile the first time she slams home a Vandersloot lob on a nine foot rim.@@amadhatter3280
@@Th1sIsMyLegacy It wouldn't be a problem at all. It would be much easier and adjustment would take place on the 1st shot.
@@Th1sIsMyLegacyTheir jump shots are already atrocious, that’s why they can only make layups over half the time lmfao
Imagine being in a relationship with the "so we're only playing basketball to dunk" girl, and trying to solve a conflict.
Asking a female basketball player to lower the rim is like asking short man why does he drive very high lifted trucks😂😂😂.
Great video - one follow up question. I was surprised that in connection with the discussion of attitude that you didn’t also advert to the increase in altercations, flagrant fouling, and other outbursts that seem to be increasing occurring in the WNBA. Tempers are very short, and the injuries are piling up.
Militant ghetto lesbians like to fight
I’ve seen better basketball than the WNBA games at my local YMCA.
I find it crazy that women fought to be heard and to-be accepted into society to not be marginalised etc... And these women are simply so detached from reality given their privileged position of literally being paid to do nothing that they don't wanna listen to fan or people that WANT to be fan and support them. That infuriates me so much I'm pissed off rn
Literally every suggestion the WNBA players suggest is a red flag into how privileged and entitled they players are.
i dont understand why the NBA and the WNBA leadership dont just make the decission REGARDLESS of what the players want.
LOWER THE DAMN RING, lets get some dunks in... viewership will skyrocket within 6 months.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND BASIC BIOLOGY
If you think a 7~8ft rim turns Candace Parker into Spud Webb, you're insane... or just another breed of simp...
@@darrengordon-hill uh... its funny how you say that to a doctor....but thats ok.
care to clarify what you mean?
"i don't want peace, i want problems always".. Awesome guy.
7:50 - What is she talking about?
They already make DOUBLE the shared revenue that the NBA players make? So, essentially she's asking for her salary to be cut in half, right?
The reason that WNBA do not like the idea of dropping the hoop down is because they already get belittled for having a smaller ball, closer three point line and smaller court. Meaning that some people will always be rude and criticise their achievements. At the end of the day, this is a women’s league why should it have to replicate a men’s game to be entertaining. I play other sports that both men and women play like Aussie rules football, where instead of following the mold of the men’s game, the women use different tactics and strategies to play. It doesn’t make the game less entertaining, it’s just a different game. Also women sports is finally catching up to men’s sport in the way that it’s getting more competitive at a young age, which leads to more skilled and athletic players. But in saying that there are still many ways in funding that the girls sport is lacking. I coached a girls team to a grand final win, yet they still receive less funding and resources than the boys team which didn’t place top 6.
Also I feel like the WNBA should have been the same teams as the men’s, it’s been successful across the world keeping the same names. It means that a supporter of the Warriors for the men’s doesn’t have to buy new gear or find a new loyalty in a team, they can just start supporting the women’s. Idk why they didn’t do that.
A top 100 high school boys basketball team that performed as poorly as a top 10 WNBA team, would have the coach losing his god-damned mind at the players, making locker room speeches that rivaled General Patton at his most desperate moments.
them throwing up lobs lmao #gold