It’s pride … like soo stubborn ab bull headed about what you want… that logic is brought to the table it makes you defensive an dismissive 😢 bye wnba 😅 good grief
If the WNBA players received pay based on profits they would need to pay to play😂 that's why they say revenue which is completely irrelevant when your company is losing money
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Hi. @tracyshipman5728 Your new friend Antonio. The wnba doesn't turn a profit. They are subsidized by the "men's league" so actually, they're not doing business. Enjoy your day.
To play the game with a smaller ball all they need is smaller balls, and they don't interfere with the infrastructureused by everyone else. It'd not that way with rims and backboards. You knoe the Federal Government will mandate shrunken-height backboards everywhere, don't you?
@@Jv_Dharma "Something"? Really? Something must be wrong with YOU if you feel the need to say that but have no inclination to honestly spit out what you mean. .Don't be coy. Have the courage and honesty to speak your piece.
"If women are actually equal to men then there would be no WNBA, would there? You would be just good enough to play in the NBA with us." - Dave Chappelle
I got this from watching Bill Burr WNBA jokes - "I'm pissed. I had 2 WNBA tickets in my car today, someone broke into it and now I have 4 WNBA tickets! Couldn't stop laughing!
Im a woman who grew up playing and watching basketball. When the WNBA was introduced I was excited, it was great. Admittedly, once my favorite players retired or moved on I stopped watching. I recently tried to get back into it and was disappointed. I can't remember the last time I seen so many missed shots., keep in mind the majority of them were layups. Honestly, it was like a high school game between 2 terrible teams. One girl was just jacking up shots each one less smart than the last. And she's regarded as one of the best in todays game 🤨 I don't know what happened or why the play is so terrible, but something needs to change. Maybe recruiting, coaching, I dunno. But it's sad.
bc it doesn’t have the viewership nor funding to afford to higher really good coaches and bc it doesn’t have viewership, not many people try to play in the league so you get people like her
@@mr.dr.prof.patrick7284the NBA subsidizes the wnba with 10 million dollars a year. The wnba is a failing business that never earned a profit in its enture history.
He made a name for hismelf and went national the only time he was invted onto FOX to defend comedy and made of fool out of the activist trying to silence comedians.
When I was a sophomore our team was garbage and as a “punishment” they had us play a scrimmage against the varsity girls who were state finalists the year before. We absolutely embarrassed them. Within a couple minutes we were told that we couldn’t jump or contest their shots. Even with those rules, we kept smoking them, the game got called off, and we had to run sprints for it
I believe it. It was summer while I was in college and me an my 2 buddies were shooting at the school rec center. These girls decked out in CU gear walked in. They asked if we wanted to play 5 on 5. We picked up 2 guys and played them and beat them 2 times. Me and my friends didn’t even play basketball in high school. And these girls were ranked top 25 in the nation.
My freshman year our first c team scrimmage was against the women’s team, defending state champs returning 4 starters. We beat them 25-6, they scored to start 4 points cause we were 14 and nervous about playing against girls..
It's not about a "Moral Code". It's about their pride. They don't want to accept that they have to settle for lower standards than Men. Their ego won't let them face up to reality. The reality that the NBA standards were set up for Men to succeed and not the physically less gifted women such as themselves. The Truth hurts Pride and Ego.
The funny part is the WNBA ball is smaller, 3 point line closer, so why be so appalled at the suggestion of lowering the rim? It's ridiculous. And their shooting percentages in the WNBA is shitty. The best shooters percentages are shitty
@@pwest1101 fr compare sharpshooter, Diana Taurasi to Curry. Her shooting percentage looks like a joke when next to his. Which is another reason to lower the rim as shooting percentages would likely go up as they don’t have the muscle it as hard.
Hahaha so true bro I recently watched because I truly was stuck in front of the TV with nothing else to watch so I thought stuff it il give it a go.. Bro it was the worst thing ever. Brick after brick foul after foul. I only made it to the end of the 3rd quarter and the score was like 42-38! After 3 freakin quarters. Never again.
Had an eye-opening experience with Abie Olajuwon. I was on a flight to Seattle and noticed what I thought was a college basketball team. I inquired of the woman next to me who I had no idea was a Connecticut Sun assistant coach. I never heard of the Sun or even knew one of my favorite ballers all-time Hakeem even had a daughter named Abie. Abie said 'We are the Sun on our way to our next game.' She boasted about beating the LA Sparks and seemed quite full of herself. I googled them. I said 'Wow, I am getting that feeling I got when I sat near the floor within 10 feet of Kobe Bryant.' Abie became snooty and said ' hardly, he wasn't nice and had character problems.' I was shocked she would say this. I used my Obama learned skills and remained calm and respectful but it was difficult. The rank ignorant cluelessness in not understanding or possibly caring you are an ambassador for the ratings starved, fan starved, money starved WNBA throwing shade at one of the greatest ballers ever is terrible for the league of beggers. Kobe whose hard earned popularity as well as her father and other NBA ballers allows the NBA to keep the Woman's Snoozefest Association known as the WSFA afloat. When a possible fan who would have followed the Suns and spread the word is trying to compliment you personally and the WNBA you throw shade on a great family man who invested his time with his daughters and supported woman's basketball is weird and a holier than thou sense of entitlement. Look in the mirror. I could throw a large rock here but I don't attack great ballers apparently try hard wannabe in and out quick of the leaguers do.
Honestly, by my own experience, lowering the rim makes any basketball game more exciting, when training we used to lower the rim to 9ft from time to time, when we did that, things went crazy, suddenly everyone was throwing down some crazy dunks, posters, insane blocks, everyone that was sitting started recording, it was absolutely amazing, it would definetly benefit the WNBA, and maybe for the first time in league history they could turn in a profit
@@Littleweenaman i saw 3 ny liberty games , no cap bro if they lower the rim and they start dunking, ill deadass go to games. The games already be litt lowkey. Its real fundamental out there and it be action bro they really ball out. I slept on the wnba i just dont get into politics and shit
I’ve been saying that the rims for women, should have been lowered, since the 80’s and 90’s. Heart rates increase when a dunk is blocked and/or fouled. Lowering the rims opens up a lot of “what ifs” and I been ready.
yeah imagine asking for money when your business makes no money. They are losing money yet want more. I wish I could make any kind of money playing sports like basketball which is one of the few I love and used to play back in school.
The WBNA has revenue. Money comes in, just not enough. They have no profits. For every year of its existence, the WBNA has had negative profits, a situation that is mitigated by who? Right, the NBA. Men's professional basketball does (and has to) subsidize women's professional basketball for the latter to even continue operating. The utter hubris of these women, to make demands based on revenue, when their teams and the league as a whole, face a revenue shortfall year after year, covered by the men, is just mind-bending.
It's an easy fix. Just allow transwomen in the WNBA. Take a bunch of D1 college hoopers who failed to make the NBA and put them in the WNBA dressed like women. Just like that stupid movie Juwanna Mann. Then you will get dunking and the WNBA will be much more exciting.
I laughed my ass off listening to these "athletes" talk about how they are not good enough to slightly alter their game. How some are so incredibly uninformed and uneducated about their own sport. Plus they don't want changes because once you make those changes and people STILL don't watch then... Their goes all their excuses.
It's so damn stupid! I wish someone with a big name in sports media publicly calls them out on this. In volleyball, the women use a shorter net than the men, and smaller volleyball. In track and field, the women use shorter hurdles than the men. In Softball, the field is shorter and they throw underhand, etc, etc, etc. They make no damn sense being triggered over suggesting the rims be lowered!
@@core76man1 women don't like admitting they're wrong. Wait until you live with or marry one, you'll know then. It doesn't help that the female players look worse than some of their male counterparts. I mean look at them, 90-95% of the WNBA players look like dudes with uglier ink and some even sound more "manlier" than men.
I was a collegiate player, and I also played outside during hoop it up or 3 on 3 tourna!nets came up. I adjusted to the higher rim, to only see that when I went back indoor or to ten feet, the 10 foot rim seemed easier, free throws were lay ups, and 3's were free throws. It was an advantage. So even training ing on 10 foot then back to 9 foot seems to me to give an advantage to the argument that they grow up on 10 foot rims.
The next time I hear women in the office organize a 'Girls Night Out' to Mohegan Sun to catch a WNBA game on a Saturday night, will be the FIRST time that ever happened.
I’m gonna debunk that “I’ve been shooting on 10 my whole life” argument real quick, I’m an average normal person basketball player and I’m decent at shooting the ball from mid range and 3, I’ve got one of those adjustable height rims and I did a little experiment I kept track of my field goal percentage for two weeks, one week shooting 50 shots from dead center 3 on a 10 foot and the other week from 9. On the 10 foot week I shot 117/350(33%) on the 9 foot however I shot 148/350(42%), this was the first time In my life shooting on a 9 foot rim and I improved that much these women are just using that stuff as an excuse and are unwilling to accept that they just aren’t as strong as the guys even tho it’s ok, no one expects women to be able to do the crazy stuff that guys do on the same scale they just need to get over themselves
Only three of those rule changes were to the playing surface/equipment. They experimented with moving the 3 point line in, micro-fiber ball and placement of the shot clock. This has nothing to do with the height of the basket or size of the ball. NBA fans spend thousands of dollars to watch Steph, Dame, and Kyrie play below the rim. The USA is not interested in women`s professional team sports, period. How great are the ratings for women`s pro soccer? Softball? To be more accurate USA women, are not interested in USA women`s pro team sports. Until we have mothers taking their daughters to an afternoon ball game, talking about the games, consumption games across platforms/networks and buying merchandise, these leagues are going to have issues. Games are being broadcast on networks with overwhelmingly male viewership demographics and games are being watched by overwhelmingly male viewers. Close to 70%... Until that changes these leagues are going to struggle.
Sayyyyyy bruhhhh…..bringin’ up Black Phillip. I appreciate that shout out. And what you said was exactly what he himself always said about his career/notoriety. Respect.
You cannot make people watch something that they don’t want. It doesn’t matter how many games you show on TV or how much coverage it gets. It’s very hard to make an argument against the facts.
I don't see how lowering the rim is going to bring a rush of new fans. I occasionally watch women's college softball mainly because many of the players are hot and they look good in their uniforms. I can't say the same for the WNBA.
Why aren’t the women’s volleyball players upset about the difference in height for the net between them and the men’s? The difference is ~7 inches. Imagine if it were the same height. There would be ZERO spiking and it would be just hitting the ball over the net… i.e. BORING.
Duuuuuude I'm happy I saw Misty and Kerri at the tail end of their career at the Olympics. They were *hilariously* dominant, and anything that would have ruined that would make me very sad.
There's nothing you can do about genetic differences between a male and female and I am glad volleyball pros don't complain. This is why I like female's volleyball more than female's basketball.
And even so, women's volleyball at the net is even more exclusionary than the men's game because you gotta be 6'0"+ and super athletic with high reach to even try. As a man you gotta be about 6'3"+ and decently athletic to have a chance. It's generally about 0.7% of women who are tall enough and about 3-4% of men. And because the net is only 7 inches shorter, that 0.7% of women need to be more athletic than the men by percentile. Lowering athletic boundaries to participate really helps the numbers for women Fact is, way taller people are often clumsy and unathletic. You might end up with 5-10% of women athletic enough, with 30% of men ( who are all in sporting shape, at their peak performance). 10% of 0.7 is 0.07%. 30% of 4 is 1.2% Therefore out of 10000 women, 7 have the physical gifts to play at all. And they have to choose the sport and go through as an adult with actual talent. For men that number is 120 out of 10000. 17.5 times as many. More men play sports too
WNBA players are fine playing less minutes, fine with playing less games than the NBA, fine with a shorter 3 point line, fine with a smaller basketball, but the minute you suggest they lower the rim they freak lol
You know it's bad that you can literally walk around with WNBA tickets in hand, trying to give them away for free, and probably 99 percent of people wouldn't bother going to the game regardless.
They have such high moral principles, but it doesn't stop them from constantly accepting hand outs from the Real NBA to keep their "little league" afloat.
@@billv1072most likely the NBA is just trying to monopolize the basketball entertainment industry. Because if another womens basketball league susdenly appear with 8 and half rims then it would be compitition for the NBA.
@@jamescawl6904 That's such nonsense. Then let them do just that, WITH THEIR OWN MONEY. But you probably believe what you say. I mean, you can't even SPELL competition.
What will they do about a 22.2 ft 2" 3pt shot for the women and a 23' 9" 3pt shot for the men? 28.5" diameter ball for the women and 29.5" for the men. No one ever mentions that, right, WNBA?
It’s pretty sad but your statement is true. I cringe watching some clips of WNBA sometimes wondering how they are this bad. Because in general, things to do with coordination, women should be able to keep up. Sure they can’t rise up and dunk through three guys like LeBron Lynn, but they should be able to shoot the ball dribble and put up a simple layup, but they can’t do it without looking clumsy , like a girl from gym class playing basketball
True but overall, I really feel the women in these leagues need to develop their fundamentals like the men do, to the point you can push beyond those fundamentals. Something as simple as great no look passes and ankle breaking dribbling could do wonders for those women.
Men and women are BIOLOGICALLY different....I know they teach delusion these days... but probably the most athletically affecting difference is reaction time. Tough to get around that one.
Every time I've tried to watch, 5 minutes gets me 4 turnovers, 3 stumble-and-falls, 2-for-7 shooting and zero dunks. (which latter, TBH, I'm no longer much impressed by. EVERYBODY can dunk now. In the NBA. And men's college ball. And boy's high school ball...)
You haven't missed anything. One dunk every 3 years, a ton of bricks, and a court full of slow, unathletic players who wouldn't even start for a small high school boys team.
When everyone suggests the same reasonable solution to make the game more entertaining and they take offense to it then let them continue complain about their 90k contracts. We are literally the people they should be catering to, the people that don’t care and don’t watch but we’re constantly telling them what would make it more appealing to watch and they’re like 🙅🏽♀️like okay, have fun blaming society and enjoy those low salaries and ratings. No one knows who any of you are, there are no rivalries, no trash talk, no dominance. It’s always a game of the team that won is the team that missed less. It’s predictable, we know nothing amazing or shocking or gravity defying is gonna happen. One team is gonna put a ball in a hoop more than the other team and there’s literally no character, no personality, and no incentive to watch. Have fun out there.
shorty said “I have to relearn the game” I was baffled by that. I can go to a kids gym and ball out. go to a ymca and ball out. I don’t know what she’s talkin bout
The problem in all this is the "W" part of it. They don't seem to understand that people will never ever seek them out for basketball entertainment. I don't care if you lower the rim to 7 feet and they can all dunk. It still will not be entertaining, they do not want to lower the rim because it will reveal the undeniable truth that nobody cares.
@@vernonharrison4832 'Zackly! Slow AND they don't jump as high. I've seen kids playing on a 6 foot hoop and they could dunk. It was not as exciting as the NBA players. It isn't the fact of the dunk, it's the remarkable leaps that amazed people.
No! Every rule made for the NBA was thinking of the average man size which is about 4-5 inches taller compared to women. There are also a lot more taller men than women. The wnba is trash and hard to watch. Lower the rim and move the 3 point line up. They look like little kids trying to shoot the 3 anyway. If not, let it stay like this because sooner or later the NBA will stop plying money into this losing venture. Meanwhile they want raises? Where they do that at?😂. Delusional women are their worst enemy.
The WBNA Players are absolutely ridiculous. It doesnt matter if they feel hurt, no on watching or buying tickets. No one cares. The rim is too high, volleyball has a lower net, CrossFit gives women shorter bars and slightly less weight. What is the eternal issue with lowering the rim? Their game is just sad to watch. FalsePride
The nba changes rules to promote scoring all the time. Heck the nba once shortened the 3 point line because jordan and the other guys of that era couldn’t shoot. I don’t see why they get so defensive about lowering the rim. I thought they wanted to get paid more?
They don't force anyone to like the WNBA, stop with the bullshit!! It's soo funny how people who don't like or hate the WNBA, find time and most times go out of their way to make mean comments about a group of women who love the game of basketball. I mean some of YOU, actually join WNBA groups on Facebook, just to talk negative. Very ignorant.
💯 woman height on average is shorter, so the court should also be adjusted. Good they have a smaller ball they can palm it better. So, according to the WNBA, they want to play like men.. What's next NBA is mixed male female or? So what should happen in athletics, hockey? This dangerous road of thinking is how a man (trans) entered the ufc and cracked HIS opponents skull. Is that fair? Compare all womans records in every sport to the men. Who is superior? Most woman know this. Most people know this. Adjusting ring height us beneficial. Being a young organisation it would be nice if they just chilled out a bit. Early basketball, everyone was short white and nobody dunked. Is mugsy brogues not interesting to watch, even though he can't dunk? It would be nice to see them improve and mature as a league like NBA - they shouldn't rush this. They would probably also play better if they gave way to their pride. See if they keep it going. Some of those girls definitely have skill. You wanna learn hard though play streetball and hoop with the men, it'll improve your game girls.
Literally lol if he or anyone else thinks they're gonna magically start being honest and accountable, won't happen in our lifetime I'll just say that lol.
I like that line “this not a basketball business” “this is a entertainment business” 💯💯💯and I’m a big Patrice O’Neal fan and I’m glad you gave him his flowers 🙏🏾😤
They use a smaller ball. Have a shorter 3PT line. Shorter quarters. Smaller schedule. Shorter postseason that includes shorter series. Had to switch to smaller venues. But lower the rim? And they lose their mind.
I really want someone to ask a WNBA player this hypothetical: “Let’s say you have two choices: Your rim, your salary, and the league all stay the same as it is now. OR you can lower the rim, your salary triples, AND the league immediately expands to 16 teams. If those are your two choices, which would you pick?” I want someone to present it to them as a hypothetical binary choice. Lower the rim and have a healthier league or don’t. Force them to expose what their priorities really are.
To be honest, if we put it an anonymous vote strictly from WNBA players, with the results not being made public, I feel it would go through with a near unanimous result for yes. The caveat is that most of the usual suspects will be complaining publicly that they were forced to do so against their interests. Returning to the current status quo, the true irony is that the only people who would even give a crap about the current complaints and deterioating direction either would not even watch the games, or are the ones they are constantly blaming and shitting on for existing. The number of tv personalities, celebs and NBA players giving shout outs (not criticisms) to the WNBA getting outright insulted back afterwards is a bit telling. I wish them the best for playing a sport they love at a higher level amongst peers, but this just reminds me of the bs with the US women's soccer (football) team.
Lower the rim and the attendance still will not go up women want to watch backstabbing from housewives shows they don’t want to watch women play sports simple the league should stand on its own or fold tired of self righteous women who think the nba should cover their buts
I feel like the question should be between "lowering the rim, keeping your jobs, raise your salary, and expanding the league. OR you can find another job and we will find women who will LITERALLY 'play ball'"
Solid work my guy. Just playing pick up ball in high school we would regularly play on a 9 to 10 foot hoop. But I had an adjustable gym and when we lowered the goal, it was relatively easier to shoot.
Yeah I was going to say that , we would lower and play legit pick up games at 9 feet because most of us could dunk on a 10 hoop but not well enough to have people do it legit turning pick up games. I would say if anything it's way way harder to like play on a 9 foot hoop and then try and play on a legit 10 foot hoop.
Heights are variable, esp. outdoors where no "official" competitions are staged. Also, outdoors you have to adjust to wind, temperature, surfaces vary...takes about two minutes and everybody's playing under the same conditions. "Nine-and-a-half foot baskets? Why I'd have relearn the game!!" BS, lady.
Will never happen. More women watch the NBA vs. WNBA. Women still like feminine woman, Tennis, soccer, golf. Even the Legends Football League (Lingerie Football League (LFL)). WNBA looks like a bunch of trans, Dikes, etc. Nothing against any of them, just not interested in watching them play.
If anything wrong or right the players that complain at least get people talking about the league even if it's to point out the wrong opinion of the players. The truth is The WNBA offers the same talent on the level of top men's high school Basketball. Then you have to think about the men's eruo leagues ,men's D-league that offer better Basketball play then The WNBA . I forgot they also have street hoops or 3 on 3 league's trying to get people to watch that have star power behind them , the point is , even if someone is a huge Basketball fan there is already so so much out there. I mean I am a huge NBA fan and I do not watch every regular season game of the team I am a fan of let alone the other teams in The NBA.
It's a result of being subsidised. Here in Aus we had a similar situation with the WNBL. The WNBL is completely dependant on the NBL for funding. When the WNBL started it was supposed to be a juggernaut, it was supposed to be the premier women's ball game. Yet today women's netball outperformed them again and again and again and even managed to get their game on FTA TV. (we only have 3 commercial FTA networks in Aus) Yet the WNBL as had 4 "rescue packages" in that time.
I grew up playing hockey. Not all rinks are the same size or have the same dimensions; US hockey, the NHL, and Olympic rinks have all had different dimensions over the years. If you go to a rink with different dimensions, like the one in Champagne, Illinois that was built for the Olympics for example, you can get thrown off a little. For the first few minutes. Then even as a little kid you can adjust. What a ridiculous argument.
Even official high school rims varied by SEVERAL inches. I remember going to one court, and all the sudden like 5 dudes on our freshman basketball team were jamming, 3 who never once jammed on the hoop at our school. (I was on of those 3😅)
Mannn, I remeber being in elementary and middle school.... lowering the rim all the way down was sooo much fun...(easy buckets, and MONSTER SLAM DUNKS on each other.... we played like 30 games in a row from noon till sundown. I miss being a kid.
Adjustable hoops were like the coolest thing that ever happened. 🤣. I'll never forget when my friend got the first one we had seen. We spent the rest of the day throwing down dunks. I actually hit my head on the loop the net goes through and had to get 6 staples. 🤣. I still have the scar 30 years later.
WNBA should focus on putting the franchises in medium sized cities that would love to have pro sports in town - and then build upon that enthusiasm. Instead they’re like “LA and NYC : LOVE US!!”
The Patrice analogy was on point!!! He was an icon and we love him for his uncompromised approach. I don’t watch WNBA and likely never will, but I would respect it A LOT more if the incessant 🧢 ceased.
That girl said they’re only asking for the same percentage of the revenue as men. If they got that, all WNBA players would have to pay their teams to play. They lose money as a league. If that’s what they want, give it to them, then watch them call it sexist
I can’t lie the fact they won’t accept the reality of things makes it all so funny. I need to see a WNBA team take on a boys high school team not even college 😭😭😭
Relative to your viewership this is a really well put together video. I hope you get the eyes you deserve. Nice job. Good arguments too. I'm glad I've finally heard somebody say that the claim they wouldn't be able to adjust to a lower rim is nonsense. Not only would they adjust to it, they would actually INCREASE their FG% because it's naturally just easier to make shots on a lower rim.
Who cares if they make more shots and dunk more often? Women's basketball still wouldn't be fun to watch. Watching the WNBA is like watching a middle school JV boys team. Which btw is probably the last level of male basketball that a WNBA team would be able to compete against. Any high school boys team would blow a WNBA team out.
not necessarily........I wish they would stop mucking up womens sports.....leave it the way it is......the only way this would turn out is having the behemouths dominate the game and no one wants to see 250# 6'8" women dunking the ball......women bb fans want crisp passing, good shooting, team play not a sort of nba imitation...
@@leelaural It seems like it's already like that. Height is such an important attribute of a basketball player that there are women in the WNBA who have little athletic ability but are just really tall. By lowering the rim, the advantage for being tall would be reduced, which would allow for shorter but more athletic women to compete instead of women who are just freakishly tall. This would make the game more entertaining.
I've played some pickup games on a nine foot rim. It was so much fun. We were all throwing down vicious dunks on each other. It's just their pride that doesn't want to lower the rim, but if they did they would immediately realize it was the right decision.
I remember Sunday pick up games on 9 foot baskets at the local elementary school. It was a blast. Tomahawk dunks, blocking shots over the rim, shooting jump shots eye level with the rim; we adapted really quickly to the significantly shorter height. You got to imagine, first hand, what is was like to be an NBA jumping fool. Fun stuff.
The real issue is that there seems to be this one-way competition with the NBA, and lowering the hoops would be admittance that the WNBA isn't equal to the NBA... which is hilarious bc they factually aren't equal, the NBA is their parent company. There should be absolutely no comparisons to the NBA but WNBA players do it anyway.
Their pride and sense of entitlement precludes them seeing and accepting reality. They are in the entertainment business, and not very many people find them entertaining. They are being rejected and the proof is in the low attendance.
"I wouldn't be able to adjust" and yet years ago on MTV they did the Rock n Jock basketball where they had a rim at 20 or 25 ft tall and every NBA player hit those shots at the higher rim height pretty easy, hell even some of the celebrities made the shots at that elevated rim heights. So to say it would mess you up just means you lack the skill set to truly be a great player, and they wonder why no one watches WNBA.
As someone who just plays pickup ball and never played any organized game, rim height doesn’t matter to me. It takes like 5-10 shots before I figure it out. I have an adjustable hoop on my driveway and my friends and I often lower it to 8 maybe 8 1/2 feet so we can dunk. (Tallest guy in our group is 6’1). It still only takes a few reps to get a consistent shot. This narrative that they’re trying to push, that somehow adjusting rim height to make the game more entertaining, is seen a hit on them or that they treat it like a handicap. I don’t get it tbh. If I saw a woman do a windmill dunk in transition, I’d start watching. There just isn’t much opportunity to create a highlight play in the current wnba.
They don't even have to dunk to be good. I watch pick up games before where none of the guys can dunk but still way more entertaining than the WNBA. Their layups are too girly, they think they're good when they aren't. They can't pass to save their lives. A lower rim means youre lights out even if you can't shoot that well. Give guys under 5'6 a league with a 8 foot rim. I bet you they will look similar to the nba players. Anyone who plays, knows a lower rim means you Steph curry.
@@FhillipFryyou MJ if the rim is at the right height. People gonna start sticking out their tongues like madmen making crazy layups, poster dunks, and filthy jumpshots
My old grade school had lower rims, we went from the Gold’s Gym low rim, to high school 10 ft rim and then to this low 9’ something rim and back again. There was so adjustment, but the adjustments were made with in a short practice and a scrimmage
Some of the most fun I remember in HS was going to elementary school late at night with my friends playing on the 8.5 to 9 foot hoops to do dunks for almost all of us.
Great video my man - Women Volleyball have shorter nets & they are so athletic & graceful to watch - Softball uses a bigger ball & closer mound & they are so exciting to watch - I don't understand how WNBA players are too prideful to lower the rim, yet they're okay with a smaller ball? WTF? - Let's be honest - Women just don't have the muscle strength & coordination to play the sport of basketball
You overlooked the glaring elephant that is Misandry as the reason they refuse to make their game more entertaining.. this isn't about providing the best possible product, it's about sticking it to men. Plain and simple
god i love when the audio is focused mainly in the left side of my headset unless a meme interjects then i can hear like normal...it makes me feel like i need to clean my right ear more often than i already do.
Watched this and see the beautiful Patrice Analogy to send it home. Patrice truly was purely honest. Much respect. He’d love to see you putting down women’s sports too
"Now I have to relearn the game to appease people..." Those people, are fans who pay money to watch you play. They pay your salary. If those thousands of people are telling you that something should be changed, then something should be changed. You could always work doing something else
A lot of empty seats down low. All empty seats up top. Playing outside just brings different challenges, whether wind, double rims, and height differences.
I remember as a kid lowering the hoop with my older neighbors so that I could play but then also, my older neighbors were able to do these crazy dunks. Because they lowered the hoop and even if they were playing just the big kids, I just sat there and really enjoyed it
Let’s just give them the equality of the NBA that they are looking for. Make them ditch that little tennis ball of a basketball that they play with and go back to the regulation size basketball of the NBA. Make them shoot from the same 3 point line distance as the NBA. Make the game minutes as long as a NBA game. Make the shot clock the same as the NBA. Their selective outrage at lowering the goal but not of other benefits to make the game easier for them and possibly more enjoyable for the fans to watch is laughable. I know the NBA doesn’t want this failing division of its billion dollar business. But they also know it would be a public relations nightmare to try to cut it loose.
I think everything should be the same as the nba....womens college bb players shoot from the same 3 point line as the men and do very well.....people that like college womens bb DO NOT WANT nba type play.....we watch it for the teamwork and the joy and the skills....not for thuggery....we do not want womens basketball to become as nasty and unwatchable as today's nba....
@@leelaural Excuse Me?! Thuggery Ball??? Criminals don't make it to the NBA and the ones who become criminals while In the league are not apart of it after.. This Overt Talk is strange cause do you say the same about Hockey when they can literally fight each other without no repercussions.. P.S. Since the NBA is thuggery then stop taking the NBA'S money and let's see how you're do without it..
@@leelaural Speaking of thuggery, didn't Brittney Griner just get out of prison for drug possession? The same Brittney Griner who also plead guilty to domestic abuse charges a few years back.
Our HS girls team were state runner-ups.. Our boys team didn't win half their games. So the talk was the girls would smoke the boys. The girls and most teachers thought so too. Just a note, our principal played at Texas. WE actually had a pep rally and they played a ten minute game. Da boyz won. 42-8. And there were still two minutes left when our principal, Mrs. Jackson, walked out and stopped the game and sent everyone to class.
Apologies for audio issues! First video ever. Didn’t even cross my mind to throw headphones on and listen before posting #noob
All good homie 👍
i thoght i broke my headphones
dont scare me like that
Definitely first video was a little rough but really good job overall like way better than I could do
It’s pride … like soo stubborn ab bull headed about what you want… that logic is brought to the table it makes you defensive an dismissive 😢 bye wnba 😅 good grief
Idk if u edited the sound on the vid yet...but goddamn this shit is hilarious 😂😂😂 all the bytes and shit u got in here got me rotflmao
WNBA salaries are “not good”? If your company is losing $10mil a year be happy you even have a job.
Shit, the company I worked for still made $100M but revenue was down 40% and they laid 1/3 of us off.
You can’t compare subsidiary entities to said principle entities.
They average $102k for playing ~4 months of ball plus off season. I don't feel sorry especially since the business is losing money.
WNBA players dont seem to be as exciting to watch compared to nba ncaa black top ymca pick up games.
If the WNBA players received pay based on profits they would need to pay to play😂 that's why they say revenue which is completely irrelevant when your company is losing money
their pride and ego to be like nba players is what's killing the wnba
I support this comment 100%
Who wouldn't want to watch a league of low-talent, unattractive, combative feminists with attitude?
And yet, they play with a smaller Basketball... where's the pride, where's the ego, oh wait....
Facts
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Why do they accept a smaller ball, but not a lower rim?
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Hi. @tracyshipman5728 Your new friend Antonio. The wnba doesn't turn a profit. They are subsidized by the "men's league" so actually, they're not doing business. Enjoy your day.
To play the game with a smaller ball all they need is smaller balls, and they don't interfere with the infrastructureused by everyone else. It'd not that way with rims and backboards. You knoe the Federal Government will mandate shrunken-height backboards everywhere, don't you?
@@gandydancer9710something is wrong with you.
@@Jv_Dharma "Something"? Really? Something must be wrong with YOU if you feel the need to say that but have no inclination to honestly spit out what you mean. .Don't be coy. Have the courage and honesty to speak your piece.
"If women are actually equal to men then there would be no WNBA, would there? You would be just good enough to play in the NBA with us." - Dave Chappelle
Totally agree
who is "us" does chappelle think he could play in the NBA? XD
Not us. Neither Dave nor you can play in the league. Not even the WNBA. Trash video
@Stu Marston no just you act like you are better than the WNBA players
@@johnmcm7690 the average middle schooler is better than wnba players.
WNBA plays with a smaller ball . They never mention that .
If NBA rim was higher, no one would watch the NBA because their games would look like the WNBA games. If only the WNBA players could see that.
The ladies have been shooting on a 10 foot rim, just like they have been missing shots, and layups on a 10 foot rim.
@kenneth harrison, sir. I take exception with your assessment. Lol.
@@face9428 ln what way?
@kenneth harrison I was kidding... I put lol on the end.
So they don’t want the rim lowered because they want to be equal but yet they have a smaller ball. No one talks about that. Makes no sense
Smaller three point line and shorter game too, oh and shorter season
Considering how much money the WNBA is losing the salaries are absolutely incredibly good
I know right it crazy
They should getting less money on want they getting
Don’t see how they complain when they still make more than the average working person.
@@MarvCU And their season is shorter.
Actually they suck. Russia and China pay more😁 which means there is no reason for them to exist here. They have other opportunities.
I got this from watching Bill Burr WNBA jokes - "I'm pissed. I had 2 WNBA tickets in my car today, someone broke into it and now I have 4 WNBA tickets! Couldn't stop laughing!
Yeah, that whole thing he did was both funny and true.
Bill Burr is a savage
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Either with the rim higher or lower, I am not going to watch WNBA. Period.
Im a woman who grew up playing and watching basketball. When the WNBA was introduced I was excited, it was great. Admittedly, once my favorite players retired or moved on I stopped watching. I recently tried to get back into it and was disappointed. I can't remember the last time I seen so many missed shots., keep in mind the majority of them were layups. Honestly, it was like a high school game between 2 terrible teams. One girl was just jacking up shots each one less smart than the last. And she's regarded as one of the best in todays game 🤨 I don't know what happened or why the play is so terrible, but something needs to change. Maybe recruiting, coaching, I dunno. But it's sad.
👏👏👏 Pefectly put in every way. Thank you Ms, you truly should be one of their higher ups. It would save their league 💯
and they use a smaller ball lol
bc it doesn’t have the viewership nor
funding to afford to higher really good
coaches and bc it doesn’t have viewership, not many people try to
play in the league so you get people like her
@@mr.dr.prof.patrick7284 no ,there is just no talent to elevate it past high school level.
@@mr.dr.prof.patrick7284the NBA subsidizes the wnba with 10 million dollars a year.
The wnba is a failing business that never earned a profit in its enture history.
If you lowered the rim to 9’8” at a WNBA facility prior to preseason training camp I imagine it would take many days before any of them noticed.
They probably would think that they can all jump higher now by some miracle and will demand more pay. Haha
@@jeffreydomingo9478😂😂😂
@@jeffreydomingo9478Facts! 🤣🤣
All that this would do is make the shots take longer to come down before missing the rim altogether.
@@jeffreydomingo9478 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a business, if you refuse to show cadence to your market, you will be out of business. PERIOD!
Huge Patrice O’Neal fan here and I actually love this example. The dude knowingly paid a price for his realness. No self delusion.
He also paid the price for eating too many sweets…
@@Primus-ue4th too soon
@@Primus-ue4thhe did, and he acknowledged that.
He was HILARIOUS on O&A.
He made a name for hismelf and went national the only time he was invted onto FOX to defend comedy and made of fool out of the activist trying to silence comedians.
When I was a sophomore our team was garbage and as a “punishment” they had us play a scrimmage against the varsity girls who were state finalists the year before. We absolutely embarrassed them. Within a couple minutes we were told that we couldn’t jump or contest their shots. Even with those rules, we kept smoking them, the game got called off, and we had to run sprints for it
I believe it. It was summer while I was in college and me an my 2 buddies were shooting at the school rec center. These girls decked out in CU gear walked in. They asked if we wanted to play 5 on 5. We picked up 2 guys and played them and beat them 2 times. Me and my friends didn’t even play basketball in high school. And these girls were ranked top 25 in the nation.
Society saves women from the truth they need to face
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My freshman year our first c team scrimmage was against the women’s team, defending state champs returning 4 starters. We beat them 25-6, they scored to start 4 points cause we were 14 and nervous about playing against girls..
"These girls are state champs" Yeah but they played on easy mode and half speed
I still want to see a game between the WNBA champions and a high school boys state championship team.
The women would be embarrassed.
I would like to see that too!
It's not about a "Moral Code". It's about their pride. They don't want to accept that they have to settle for lower standards than Men. Their ego won't let them face up to reality. The reality that the NBA standards were set up for Men to succeed and not the physically less gifted women such as themselves. The Truth hurts Pride and Ego.
Shhh stop saying the quiet part out loud. Moral code and pride are almost two sides of the same coin
The funny part is the WNBA ball is smaller, 3 point line closer, so why be so appalled at the suggestion of lowering the rim? It's ridiculous. And their shooting percentages in the WNBA is shitty. The best shooters percentages are shitty
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@@pwest1101 fr compare sharpshooter, Diana Taurasi to Curry. Her shooting percentage looks like a joke when next to his. Which is another reason to lower the rim as shooting percentages would likely go up as they don’t have the muscle it as hard.
@@SoulKingBK shit really ridiculous
He must have watched thousands of hours of WNBA games to get that many images of them actually making shots.
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That would be impossible for me to watch. I can barely watch these kind of videos.
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Hahaha so true bro I recently watched because I truly was stuck in front of the TV with nothing else to watch so I thought stuff it il give it a go.. Bro it was the worst thing ever. Brick after brick foul after foul. I only made it to the end of the 3rd quarter and the score was like 42-38! After 3 freakin quarters. Never again.
Had an eye-opening experience with Abie Olajuwon. I was on a flight to Seattle and noticed what I thought was a college basketball team. I inquired of the woman next to me who I had no idea was a Connecticut Sun assistant coach. I never heard of the Sun or even knew one of my favorite ballers all-time Hakeem even had a daughter named Abie. Abie said 'We are the Sun on our way to our next game.' She boasted about beating the LA Sparks and seemed quite full of herself. I googled them. I said 'Wow, I am getting that feeling I got when I sat near the floor within 10 feet of Kobe Bryant.' Abie became snooty and said ' hardly, he wasn't nice and had character problems.' I was shocked she would say this. I used my Obama learned skills and remained calm and respectful but it was difficult. The rank ignorant cluelessness in not understanding or possibly caring you are an ambassador for the ratings starved, fan starved, money starved WNBA throwing shade at one of the greatest ballers ever is terrible for the league of beggers. Kobe whose hard earned popularity as well as her father and other NBA ballers allows the NBA to keep the Woman's Snoozefest Association known as the WSFA afloat. When a possible fan who would have followed the Suns and spread the word is trying to compliment you personally and the WNBA you throw shade on a great family man who invested his time with his daughters and supported woman's basketball is weird and a holier than thou sense of entitlement. Look in the mirror. I could throw a large rock here but I don't attack great ballers apparently try hard wannabe in and out quick of the leaguers do.
What? Nonsense😂
Great family man? SMH, the guy was a serial rapist and liar. You can’t have much of a moral compass if you admire him or most of the thugs in the NBA.
Honestly, by my own experience, lowering the rim makes any basketball game more exciting, when training we used to lower the rim to 9ft from time to time, when we did that, things went crazy, suddenly everyone was throwing down some crazy dunks, posters, insane blocks, everyone that was sitting started recording, it was absolutely amazing, it would definetly benefit the WNBA, and maybe for the first time in league history they could turn in a profit
And also it would be fun basketball is supposed to be a game right?
@@Littleweenaman For sure, what's the point if you don't enjoy it?
@@Littleweenaman i saw 3 ny liberty games , no cap bro if they lower the rim and they start dunking, ill deadass go to games. The games already be litt lowkey. Its real fundamental out there and it be action bro they really ball out. I slept on the wnba i just dont get into politics and shit
Not to mention they have a smaller ball I think the three point line is closer too
I’ve been saying that the rims for women, should have been lowered, since the 80’s and 90’s. Heart rates increase when a dunk is blocked and/or fouled. Lowering the rims opens up a lot of “what ifs” and I been ready.
What gets me is when they say stuff like "we want the same percentage of revenue" meanwhile I'm sitting here asking myself, "what revenue?"
yeah imagine asking for money when your business makes no money. They are losing money yet want more. I wish I could make any kind of money playing sports like basketball which is one of the few I love and used to play back in school.
@@blackblurable facts I’ll take 75k or upper 100k
The WBNA has revenue. Money comes in, just not enough. They have no profits.
For every year of its existence, the WBNA has had negative profits, a situation that is mitigated by who? Right, the NBA. Men's professional basketball does (and has to) subsidize women's professional basketball for the latter to even continue operating.
The utter hubris of these women, to make demands based on revenue, when their teams and the league as a whole, face a revenue shortfall year after year, covered by the men, is just mind-bending.
It's an easy fix. Just allow transwomen in the WNBA. Take a bunch of D1 college hoopers who failed to make the NBA and put them in the WNBA dressed like women. Just like that stupid movie Juwanna Mann. Then you will get dunking and the WNBA will be much more exciting.
Send her a bill.
WNBA should break off from the NBA and stand on their own two feet. Then they can split their profits and pay themselves how they choose.
I thought they didn’t make a profit?
@@Rubberbandman0529 Exactly
Split their what ? 🤔
I laughed my ass off listening to these "athletes" talk about how they are not good enough to slightly alter their game. How some are so incredibly uninformed and uneducated about their own sport. Plus they don't want changes because once you make those changes and people STILL don't watch then... Their goes all their excuses.
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Yess. Great comment
They have no problem using a smaller basket ball.. but they have a problem with a lower rim? Makes sense
It's so damn stupid! I wish someone with a big name in sports media publicly calls them out on this. In volleyball, the women use a shorter net than the men, and smaller volleyball. In track and field, the women use shorter hurdles than the men. In Softball, the field is shorter and they throw underhand, etc, etc, etc. They make no damn sense being triggered over suggesting the rims be lowered!
Feminine logic!😉
Makes sense that they make no sense.
@@core76man1 women don't like admitting they're wrong. Wait until you live with or marry one, you'll know then. It doesn't help that the female players look worse than some of their male counterparts. I mean look at them, 90-95% of the WNBA players look like dudes with uglier ink and some even sound more "manlier" than men.
It's because of those 4 girls whom made those 7 dunks in the past 2 decades in wnba, they don't want competition.
I was a collegiate player, and I also played outside during hoop it up or 3 on 3 tourna!nets came up. I adjusted to the higher rim, to only see that when I went back indoor or to ten feet, the 10 foot rim seemed easier, free throws were lay ups, and 3's were free throws. It was an advantage. So even training ing on 10 foot then back to 9 foot seems to me to give an advantage to the argument that they grow up on 10 foot rims.
“The next WNBA game I watch, will be the first WNBA game I watch.” - Norm Macdonald
-me
The next time I hear women in the office organize a 'Girls Night Out' to Mohegan Sun to catch a WNBA game on a Saturday night, will be the FIRST time that ever happened.
RIP Norm "Old Chunk of Coal" Macdonald.
RIP Norm "You guessed it. Frank Stallone." Macdonald.
RIP Norm "I am a deeply closeted gay man." Macdonald.
¿Give them many trampolines ?
And last
I’m gonna debunk that “I’ve been shooting on 10 my whole life” argument real quick, I’m an average normal person basketball player and I’m decent at shooting the ball from mid range and 3, I’ve got one of those adjustable height rims and I did a little experiment I kept track of my field goal percentage for two weeks, one week shooting 50 shots from dead center 3 on a 10 foot and the other week from 9. On the 10 foot week I shot 117/350(33%) on the 9 foot however I shot 148/350(42%), this was the first time In my life shooting on a 9 foot rim and I improved that much these women are just using that stuff as an excuse and are unwilling to accept that they just aren’t as strong as the guys even tho it’s ok, no one expects women to be able to do the crazy stuff that guys do on the same scale they just need to get over themselves
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A woman accepting her shortcomings?? Dawg, you have a better chance of converting Muhammad, the prophet, away from Islam. Real talk.
These ladies are too proud to adjust. They want the crowd to adjust to them.
"oh so you're saying that you're an athlete that can't adapt?"
Ladies of the WNBA please look up all of the rule changes that the NBA has undergone that the NBA players conformed to.
And they should of all been demanding that they change the ball size to a 7 from a size 6. because of what it says about them. Hypocrisy alert.
Only three of those rule changes were to the playing surface/equipment. They experimented with moving the 3 point line in, micro-fiber ball and placement of the shot clock. This has nothing to do with the height of the basket or size of the ball. NBA fans spend thousands of dollars to watch Steph, Dame, and Kyrie play below the rim. The USA is not interested in women`s professional team sports, period. How great are the ratings for women`s pro soccer? Softball? To be more accurate USA women, are not interested in USA women`s pro team sports. Until we have mothers taking their daughters to an afternoon ball game, talking about the games, consumption games across platforms/networks and buying merchandise, these leagues are going to have issues. Games are being broadcast on networks with overwhelmingly male viewership demographics and games are being watched by overwhelmingly male viewers. Close to 70%... Until that changes these leagues are going to struggle.
I known and for this reason the NBA become a circus
@@axelagosto5196 ahh you like that pre-1970's NBA
And none of them permanently changed the the court being played on
Sayyyyyy bruhhhh…..bringin’ up Black Phillip. I appreciate that shout out. And what you said was exactly what he himself always said about his career/notoriety. Respect.
You cannot make people watch something that they don’t want. It doesn’t matter how many games you show on TV or how much coverage it gets. It’s very hard to make an argument against the facts.
I don't see how lowering the rim is going to bring a rush of new fans. I occasionally watch women's college softball mainly because many of the players are hot and they look good in their uniforms. I can't say the same for the WNBA.
@@motownbaby6146 True
Women don't watch it. I don't know why any other statement is given on this. It's the giant elephant in the room.
Why aren’t the women’s volleyball players upset about the difference in height for the net between them and the men’s? The difference is ~7 inches.
Imagine if it were the same height. There would be ZERO spiking and it would be just hitting the ball over the net… i.e. BORING.
There are at least 18 sports where the equipment, rules, time or events are different for women then for men.
Duuuuuude I'm happy I saw Misty and Kerri at the tail end of their career at the Olympics. They were *hilariously* dominant, and anything that would have ruined that would make me very sad.
There's nothing you can do about genetic differences between a male and female and I am glad volleyball pros don't complain. This is why I like female's volleyball more than female's basketball.
And even so, women's volleyball at the net is even more exclusionary than the men's game because you gotta be 6'0"+ and super athletic with high reach to even try.
As a man you gotta be about 6'3"+ and decently athletic to have a chance.
It's generally about 0.7% of women who are tall enough and about 3-4% of men. And because the net is only 7 inches shorter, that 0.7% of women need to be more athletic than the men by percentile.
Lowering athletic boundaries to participate really helps the numbers for women
Fact is, way taller people are often clumsy and unathletic. You might end up with 5-10% of women athletic enough, with 30% of men ( who are all in sporting shape, at their peak performance).
10% of 0.7 is 0.07%.
30% of 4 is 1.2%
Therefore out of 10000 women, 7 have the physical gifts to play at all. And they have to choose the sport and go through as an adult with actual talent.
For men that number is 120 out of 10000. 17.5 times as many. More men play sports too
@@dxfifa Nice breakdown for volleyball. Next up - how do they calculate the distance for Mens' tees vs Ladies' tees.
WNBA players are fine playing less minutes, fine with playing less games than the NBA, fine with a shorter 3 point line, fine with a smaller basketball, but the minute you suggest they lower the rim they freak lol
You know it's bad that you can literally walk around with WNBA tickets in hand, trying to give them away for free, and probably 99 percent of people wouldn't bother going to the game regardless.
i drove raiders owner mark davis on uber and he offered me free wnba tickets which i declined
They have such high moral principles, but it doesn't stop them from constantly accepting hand outs from the Real NBA to keep their "little league" afloat.
Moral principles? You never heard of abortions?😅
@@kaadauwgg I was being sarcastic. The WNBA is just an NBA charity, IMHO.
@@billv1072 the wnba is the NBAs alimony payment to women
@@billv1072most likely the NBA is just trying to monopolize the basketball entertainment industry.
Because if another womens basketball league susdenly appear with 8 and half rims then it would be compitition for the NBA.
@@jamescawl6904 That's such nonsense. Then let them do just that, WITH THEIR OWN MONEY. But you probably believe what you say. I mean, you can't even SPELL competition.
What will they do about a 22.2 ft 2" 3pt shot for the women and a 23' 9" 3pt shot for the men? 28.5" diameter ball for the women and 29.5" for the men. No one ever mentions that, right, WNBA?
The lowered rim would also help the very awkward looking layups. The WNBA for the most part looks like a pick up game of 7th graders.
It’s pretty sad but your statement is true. I cringe watching some clips of WNBA sometimes wondering how they are this bad.
Because in general, things to do with coordination, women should be able to keep up. Sure they can’t rise up and dunk through three guys like LeBron Lynn, but they should be able to shoot the ball dribble and put up a simple layup, but they can’t do it without looking clumsy , like a girl from gym class playing basketball
True but overall, I really feel the women in these leagues need to develop their fundamentals like the men do, to the point you can push beyond those fundamentals. Something as simple as great no look passes and ankle breaking dribbling could do wonders for those women.
7th graders is generous honestly.
Men and women are BIOLOGICALLY different....I know they teach delusion these days... but probably the most athletically affecting difference is reaction time. Tough to get around that one.
I can proudly say, I have never watched a game
I can say I've started but never finished🤷🤷🤷🤷
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Every time I've tried to watch, 5 minutes gets me 4 turnovers, 3 stumble-and-falls, 2-for-7 shooting and zero dunks. (which latter, TBH, I'm no longer much impressed by. EVERYBODY can dunk now. In the NBA. And men's college ball. And boy's high school ball...)
You haven't missed anything. One dunk every 3 years, a ton of bricks, and a court full of slow, unathletic players who wouldn't even start for a small high school boys team.
Me too 😊
When everyone suggests the same reasonable solution to make the game more entertaining and they take offense to it then let them continue complain about their 90k contracts. We are literally the people they should be catering to, the people that don’t care and don’t watch but we’re constantly telling them what would make it more appealing to watch and they’re like 🙅🏽♀️like okay, have fun blaming society and enjoy those low salaries and ratings. No one knows who any of you are, there are no rivalries, no trash talk, no dominance. It’s always a game of the team that won is the team that missed less. It’s predictable, we know nothing amazing or shocking or gravity defying is gonna happen. One team is gonna put a ball in a hoop more than the other team and there’s literally no character, no personality, and no incentive to watch. Have fun out there.
shorty said “I have to relearn the game” I was baffled by that. I can go to a kids gym and ball out. go to a ymca and ball out. I don’t know what she’s talkin bout
The problem in all this is the "W" part of it. They don't seem to understand that people will never ever seek them out for basketball entertainment. I don't care if you lower the rim to 7 feet and they can all dunk. It still will not be entertaining, they do not want to lower the rim because it will reveal the undeniable truth that nobody cares.
@@vernonharrison4832 'Zackly! Slow AND they don't jump as high. I've seen kids playing on a 6 foot hoop and they could dunk. It was not as exciting as the NBA players. It isn't the fact of the dunk, it's the remarkable leaps that amazed people.
I totally agree. It will prove that they’re really not that athletic compared to men so that equal nonsense they push will go right out the window
Thank you for this. Pointing out their lies and pseudo proud stance
Every rule that was made for the NBA was made thinking of people like Shaq and Wilt it's ridiculous that the WNBA doesn't do any adjustments.
No! Every rule made for the NBA was thinking of the average man size which is about 4-5 inches taller compared to women. There are also a lot more taller men than women. The wnba is trash and hard to watch. Lower the rim and move the 3 point line up. They look like little kids trying to shoot the 3 anyway. If not, let it stay like this because sooner or later the NBA will stop plying money into this losing venture. Meanwhile they want raises? Where they do that at?😂. Delusional women are their worst enemy.
WNBA HOF? That's like your parents refrigerator when you make a finger painting
That's COLD!🥶
@@melvinlew6624 So is WNBA players asking NBA players to pay out of pocket for their salaries lol
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@@melvinlew6624 Well, It is a refrigerator. XD
The WBNA Players are absolutely ridiculous. It doesnt matter if they feel hurt, no on watching or buying tickets. No one cares. The rim is too high, volleyball has a lower net, CrossFit gives women shorter bars and slightly less weight. What is the eternal issue with lowering the rim? Their game is just sad to watch. FalsePride
There should be a petition made about this. If they actually implemented it I'd definitely be interested in seeing how it changes the game.
The nba changes rules to promote scoring all the time. Heck the nba once shortened the 3 point line because jordan and the other guys of that era couldn’t shoot. I don’t see why they get so defensive about lowering the rim. I thought they wanted to get paid more?
Heeeell yeah. Ima sign the fvck out of that sh!t.
That stubborn feminist mindset were they want to force people to like their game, as is, and not acknowledge the differences
They don't force anyone to like the WNBA, stop with the bullshit!! It's soo funny how people who don't like or hate the WNBA, find time and most times go out of their way to make mean comments about a group of women who love the game of basketball. I mean some of YOU, actually join WNBA groups on Facebook, just to talk negative. Very ignorant.
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Why not? They seem to think the number of sexes is something they can just imagine into being, as opposed to something determined by human biology.
@@Trollificusv2 theb idea is that sex and gender are diff things, not that there are 1000 biological sexes
Totally agree
The Top 2 changes should be made:
*Rim height
*Court size…”I never hear this talked about…they play on a NBA size court”
💯 woman height on average is shorter, so the court should also be adjusted. Good they have a smaller ball they can palm it better.
So, according to the WNBA, they want to play like men..
What's next NBA is mixed male female or?
So what should happen in athletics, hockey? This dangerous road of thinking is how a man (trans) entered the ufc and cracked HIS opponents skull. Is that fair?
Compare all womans records in every sport to the men. Who is superior? Most woman know this. Most people know this.
Adjusting ring height us beneficial. Being a young organisation it would be nice if they just chilled out a bit. Early basketball, everyone was short white and nobody dunked. Is mugsy brogues not interesting to watch, even though he can't dunk?
It would be nice to see them improve and mature as a league like NBA - they shouldn't rush this. They would probably also play better if they gave way to their pride.
See if they keep it going. Some of those girls definitely have skill. You wanna learn hard though play streetball and hoop with the men, it'll improve your game girls.
This dude straight up told women not to lie for 15 minutes, got a lot to learn about life.
I could have saved a lot of time if I read this comment first because that's exactly what happened
Absolutely. Boring repetition. Terrible….
Literally lol if he or anyone else thinks they're gonna magically start being honest and accountable, won't happen in our lifetime I'll just say that lol.
I like that line “this not a basketball business” “this is a entertainment business” 💯💯💯and I’m a big Patrice O’Neal fan and I’m glad you gave him his flowers 🙏🏾😤
Imagine a lady pulling off an Aaron Gordon Christmas day poster dunk
I wonder if they just lowered it without saying nothing until the game over Would they Know!??..🤔
i don't think they would. That was my very first thought too
Patrice O'Neal best part of any video
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☝🏾💯that part
Masterpiece my good man you really did ya thing with this one. The Patrice O'Neal link at the end a masterstroke
They use a smaller ball. Have a shorter 3PT line. Shorter quarters. Smaller schedule. Shorter postseason that includes shorter series. Had to switch to smaller venues.
But lower the rim? And they lose their mind.
I really want someone to ask a WNBA player this hypothetical:
“Let’s say you have two choices: Your rim, your salary, and the league all stay the same as it is now. OR you can lower the rim, your salary triples, AND the league immediately expands to 16 teams. If those are your two choices, which would you pick?”
I want someone to present it to them as a hypothetical binary choice. Lower the rim and have a healthier league or don’t. Force them to expose what their priorities really are.
Great question, and sadly I suspect the response might be some convoluted diatribe about misogyny and capitalism combined with male privilege.
To be honest, if we put it an anonymous vote strictly from WNBA players, with the results not being made public, I feel it would go through with a near unanimous result for yes.
The caveat is that most of the usual suspects will be complaining publicly that they were forced to do so against their interests.
Returning to the current status quo, the true irony is that the only people who would even give a crap about the current complaints and deterioating direction either would not even watch the games, or are the ones they are constantly blaming and shitting on for existing.
The number of tv personalities, celebs and NBA players giving shout outs (not criticisms) to the WNBA getting outright insulted back afterwards is a bit telling.
I wish them the best for playing a sport they love at a higher level amongst peers, but this just reminds me of the bs with the US women's soccer (football) team.
Lower the rim and the attendance still will not go up women want to watch backstabbing from housewives shows they don’t want to watch women play sports simple the league should stand on its own or fold tired of self righteous women who think the nba should cover their buts
I feel like the question should be between "lowering the rim, keeping your jobs, raise your salary, and expanding the league. OR you can find another job and we will find women who will LITERALLY 'play ball'"
If they lowered the rims, people still wouldn't watch it.
Solid work my guy. Just playing pick up ball in high school we would regularly play on a 9 to 10 foot hoop. But I had an adjustable gym and when we lowered the goal, it was relatively easier to shoot.
Thanks dude
Oh man, the lower the rim the better the arc buddy.
Yeah I was going to say that , we would lower and play legit pick up games at 9 feet because most of us could dunk on a 10 hoop but not well enough to have people do it legit turning pick up games. I would say if anything it's way way harder to like play on a 9 foot hoop and then try and play on a legit 10 foot hoop.
Heights are variable, esp. outdoors where no "official" competitions are staged. Also, outdoors you have to adjust to wind, temperature, surfaces vary...takes about two minutes and everybody's playing under the same conditions.
"Nine-and-a-half foot baskets? Why I'd have relearn the game!!" BS, lady.
@@tonysobon4669 we used to go to the elementary school and play on the 8ft😁 I'm not afraid to say it🤣😂🤣😂
Nice to hear the opinion of a basketball fan that actually watches WNBA action. That league could be so successful, but egos are blocking the way.
Define "So successful".
The league will never be successful. Sorry it just won’t.
Will never happen. More women watch the NBA vs. WNBA. Women still like feminine woman, Tennis, soccer, golf. Even the Legends Football League (Lingerie Football League (LFL)). WNBA looks like a bunch of trans, Dikes, etc. Nothing against any of them, just not interested in watching them play.
If anything wrong or right the players that complain at least get people talking about the league even if it's to point out the wrong opinion of the players. The truth is The WNBA offers the same talent on the level of top men's high school Basketball. Then you have to think about the men's eruo leagues ,men's D-league that offer better Basketball play then The WNBA . I forgot they also have street hoops or 3 on 3 league's trying to get people to watch that have star power behind them , the point is , even if someone is a huge Basketball fan there is already so so much out there. I mean I am a huge NBA fan and I do not watch every regular season game of the team I am a fan of let alone the other teams in The NBA.
It's a result of being subsidised.
Here in Aus we had a similar situation with the WNBL. The WNBL is completely dependant on the NBL for funding. When the WNBL started it was supposed to be a juggernaut, it was supposed to be the premier women's ball game.
Yet today women's netball outperformed them again and again and again and even managed to get their game on FTA TV. (we only have 3 commercial FTA networks in Aus)
Yet the WNBL as had 4 "rescue packages" in that time.
I grew up playing hockey. Not all rinks are the same size or have the same dimensions; US hockey, the NHL, and Olympic rinks have all had different dimensions over the years. If you go to a rink with different dimensions, like the one in Champagne, Illinois that was built for the Olympics for example, you can get thrown off a little. For the first few minutes. Then even as a little kid you can adjust. What a ridiculous argument.
Even official high school rims varied by SEVERAL inches.
I remember going to one court, and all the sudden like 5 dudes on our freshman basketball team were jamming, 3 who never once jammed on the hoop at our school.
(I was on of those 3😅)
Mannn, I remeber being in elementary and middle school.... lowering the rim all the way down was sooo much fun...(easy buckets, and MONSTER SLAM DUNKS on each other.... we played like 30 games in a row from noon till sundown. I miss being a kid.
Adjustable hoops were like the coolest thing that ever happened. 🤣. I'll never forget when my friend got the first one we had seen. We spent the rest of the day throwing down dunks. I actually hit my head on the loop the net goes through and had to get 6 staples. 🤣. I still have the scar 30 years later.
❤good times man
% of revenue. What is the pay expected from a % of a negative?
WNBA should focus on putting the franchises in medium sized cities that would love to have pro sports in town - and then build upon that enthusiasm. Instead they’re like “LA and NYC : LOVE US!!”
The Patrice analogy was on point!!! He was an icon and we love him for his uncompromised approach. I don’t watch WNBA and likely never will, but I would respect it A LOT more if the incessant 🧢 ceased.
The WNBA has three fans.
We now know the identity of one of them.
Lower the rim, or fold the league.
My opinion.
That girl said they’re only asking for the same percentage of the revenue as men. If they got that, all WNBA players would have to pay their teams to play. They lose money as a league. If that’s what they want, give it to them, then watch them call it sexist
When you exchanged a drug addicted WNBA player to a Russian Assassin should have been the end of all of this.
Lower rims? AW HELL NAW!
Smaller balls? OH YES!
Women in The WNBA don't like balls 🤣🤣🤣
I can’t lie the fact they won’t accept the reality of things makes it all so funny. I need to see a WNBA team take on a boys high school team not even college 😭😭😭
I bet the council of women told them not to want to lower the rims.
Relative to your viewership this is a really well put together video. I hope you get the eyes you deserve. Nice job.
Good arguments too. I'm glad I've finally heard somebody say that the claim they wouldn't be able to adjust to a lower rim is nonsense. Not only would they adjust to it, they would actually INCREASE their FG% because it's naturally just easier to make shots on a lower rim.
Thanks Daddy. Video and editing quailty will improve every vid 👍
Who cares if they make more shots and dunk more often? Women's basketball still wouldn't be fun to watch. Watching the WNBA is like watching a middle school JV boys team. Which btw is probably the last level of male basketball that a WNBA team would be able to compete against. Any high school boys team would blow a WNBA team out.
not necessarily........I wish they would stop mucking up womens sports.....leave it the way it is......the only way this would turn out is having the behemouths dominate the game and no one wants to see 250# 6'8" women dunking the ball......women bb fans want crisp passing, good shooting, team play not a sort of nba imitation...
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It seems like it's already like that. Height is such an important attribute of a basketball player that there are women in the WNBA who have little athletic ability but are just really tall.
By lowering the rim, the advantage for being tall would be reduced, which would allow for shorter but more athletic women to compete instead of women who are just freakishly tall. This would make the game more entertaining.
@@TooLazyToHoop I would not have called him that. You different bro 🤣
I've played some pickup games on a nine foot rim. It was so much fun. We were all throwing down vicious dunks on each other. It's just their pride that doesn't want to lower the rim, but if they did they would immediately realize it was the right decision.
Lowering the ring is like applying a new rule to the game. It does not require the players approval that’s the office decision.
I remember Sunday pick up games on 9 foot baskets at the local elementary school. It was a blast. Tomahawk dunks, blocking shots over the rim, shooting jump shots eye level with the rim; we adapted really quickly to the significantly shorter height. You got to imagine, first hand, what is was like to be an NBA jumping fool. Fun stuff.
And how many tickets did you sell?
@@baronceli🤣🤦🏾♂️‼️
@@baronceli probably more than The WNBA.
The real issue is that there seems to be this one-way competition with the NBA, and lowering the hoops would be admittance that the WNBA isn't equal to the NBA... which is hilarious bc they factually aren't equal, the NBA is their parent company. There should be absolutely no comparisons to the NBA but WNBA players do it anyway.
If i knew their basketball was a different size, there's no way a professional player wouldn't know. 😂
Their pride and sense of entitlement precludes them seeing and accepting reality. They are in the entertainment business, and not very many people find them entertaining. They are being rejected and the proof is in the low attendance.
"I wouldn't be able to adjust" and yet years ago on MTV they did the Rock n Jock basketball where they had a rim at 20 or 25 ft tall and every NBA player hit those shots at the higher rim height pretty easy, hell even some of the celebrities made the shots at that elevated rim heights. So to say it would mess you up just means you lack the skill set to truly be a great player, and they wonder why no one watches WNBA.
can't adjust my shot … what a sad attempt to lie. How do they embarrass themselves so thoroughly?
As someone who just plays pickup ball and never played any organized game, rim height doesn’t matter to me. It takes like 5-10 shots before I figure it out. I have an adjustable hoop on my driveway and my friends and I often lower it to 8 maybe 8 1/2 feet so we can dunk. (Tallest guy in our group is 6’1). It still only takes a few reps to get a consistent shot. This narrative that they’re trying to push, that somehow adjusting rim height to make the game more entertaining, is seen a hit on them or that they treat it like a handicap. I don’t get it tbh. If I saw a woman do a windmill dunk in transition, I’d start watching. There just isn’t much opportunity to create a highlight play in the current wnba.
They don't even have to dunk to be good. I watch pick up games before where none of the guys can dunk but still way more entertaining than the WNBA. Their layups are too girly, they think they're good when they aren't. They can't pass to save their lives. A lower rim means youre lights out even if you can't shoot that well. Give guys under 5'6 a league with a 8 foot rim. I bet you they will look similar to the nba players. Anyone who plays, knows a lower rim means you Steph curry.
@@FhillipFryyou MJ if the rim is at the right height. People gonna start sticking out their tongues like madmen making crazy layups, poster dunks, and filthy jumpshots
@@jaydeleon695 for real🤣🤣
Damn you nailed it right on the head with Patrice O'Neal. Long love the uncrowned comedy GOAT.
My old grade school had lower rims, we went from the Gold’s Gym low rim, to high school 10 ft rim and then to this low 9’ something rim and back again. There was so adjustment, but the adjustments were made with in a short practice and a scrimmage
Some of the most fun I remember in HS was going to elementary school late at night with my friends playing on the 8.5 to 9 foot hoops to do dunks for almost all of us.
Great video my man - Women Volleyball have shorter nets & they are so athletic & graceful to watch - Softball uses a bigger ball & closer mound & they are so exciting to watch - I don't understand how WNBA players are too prideful to lower the rim, yet they're okay with a smaller ball? WTF? - Let's be honest - Women just don't have the muscle strength & coordination to play the sport of basketball
To ask the question is to answer it: prideful.
You overlooked the glaring elephant that is Misandry as the reason they refuse to make their game more entertaining.. this isn't about providing the best possible product, it's about sticking it to men. Plain and simple
There’s literally nothing they can do that’ll interest me enough to watch this mess.
They don’t even wanna do anything that will interest us lol.
Even playing naked? (Ryan Long ©️)
@@NickM_FirstofHisName If you’ve seen one you’ve seen em all bro. Ain’t interested. Lol
@@juinxxviii624 LMAO
They could let a grizzly bear run loose during the game.
god i love when the audio is focused mainly in the left side of my headset unless a meme interjects then i can hear like normal...it makes me feel like i need to clean my right ear more often than i already do.
Watched this and see the beautiful Patrice Analogy to send it home. Patrice truly was purely honest. Much respect. He’d love to see you putting down women’s sports too
This video needs to blow up, you spoke so much facts coming from an honest fan
"Now I have to relearn the game to appease people..."
Those people, are fans who pay money to watch you play. They pay your salary.
If those thousands of people are telling you that something should be changed, then something should be changed.
You could always work doing something else
A lot of empty seats down low. All empty seats up top. Playing outside just brings different challenges, whether wind, double rims, and height differences.
Remember that time mlb made their bases larger to help their entertainment product
And banned the shift. And instituted a pitch clock.
No but I remember when they were juiced to the gills smacking dingers at a record clip.
I remember as a kid lowering the hoop with my older neighbors so that I could play but then also, my older neighbors were able to do these crazy dunks. Because they lowered the hoop and even if they were playing just the big kids, I just sat there and really enjoyed it
When they tell you they would rather not grow the fan base and continue on the current path than lower the rim it makes no sense
They need them LFL Uniforms.. They'll be the most popular then😄💯
Let’s just give them the equality of the NBA that they are looking for. Make them ditch that little tennis ball of a basketball that they play with and go back to the regulation size basketball of the NBA. Make them shoot from the same 3 point line distance as the NBA. Make the game minutes as long as a NBA game. Make the shot clock the same as the NBA. Their selective outrage at lowering the goal but not of other benefits to make the game easier for them and possibly more enjoyable for the fans to watch is laughable. I know the NBA doesn’t want this failing division of its billion dollar business. But they also know it would be a public relations nightmare to try to cut it loose.
I think everything should be the same as the nba....womens college bb players shoot from the same 3 point line as the men and do very well.....people that like college womens bb DO NOT WANT nba type play.....we watch it for the teamwork and the joy and the skills....not for thuggery....we do not want womens basketball to become as nasty and unwatchable as today's nba....
@@leelaural Excuse Me?! Thuggery Ball??? Criminals don't make it to the NBA and the ones who become criminals while In the league are not apart of it after..
This Overt Talk is strange cause do you say the same about Hockey when they can literally fight each other without no repercussions..
P.S. Since the NBA is thuggery then stop taking the NBA'S money and let's see how you're do without it..
@@leelaural Teamwork and joy?! You can find that at any locak YMCA keague. Hilarious! And more skill by far.
@@leelaural Speaking of thuggery, didn't Brittney Griner just get out of prison for drug possession? The same Brittney Griner who also plead guilty to domestic abuse charges a few years back.
In euro men and women shoot from same 3pt line so I don't think it would be hard for them
Our HS girls team were state runner-ups.. Our boys team didn't win half their games. So the talk was the girls would smoke the boys. The girls and most teachers thought so too. Just a note, our principal played at Texas. WE actually had a pep rally and they played a ten minute game. Da boyz won. 42-8. And there were still two minutes left when our principal, Mrs. Jackson, walked out and stopped the game and sent everyone to class.
This video deserves way more likes.