Scientifically Dismantling the WNBA Pay Gap Argument

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  • Опубліковано 24 січ 2023
  • The WNBA has been around since the late 90s, and it seems like the only time they're relevant is when a player gets thrown into a Russian prison, or the women are demanding a raise.
    As someone who's been a fan of the NBA since I was 8 years old, I've never really cared or noticed the WNBA- and I know many of you watching can relate.
    In high school, my friends would always poke fun at how bad the WNBA is- I didn't know anything about the WNBA then since it was never on TV.
    But I'll never forget the first time I was exposed to the league.
    ESPN was doing an interview with a WNBA player- her name's Brittney Griner- you may know her as the WNBA player that was trapped in Russia.
    Now Griner is 6'10".
    And the interviewer asks her to throw down a dunk because it's uncommon for females to be able to dunk on a 10-foot hoop.
    She goes up and misses her first attempt.
    At that point, I'm thinking, 'ok, everyone gets one.'
    Before trying her second attempt, she makes sure her laces are tied.
    and after that dramatic build-up, she misses again.
    At that moment, I'm thinking this has to be a skit- but nope. It's 100% real.
    Now don't get it twisted, she'd probably cook me 1 on 1, there's no doubt about that- but really? This is what the best women's basketball league in America has to offer?
    If you google WNBA dunks, you'll find a 2-minute compilation of every dunk that's happened in the last 26 years. Spoiler alert there's been less than 30, and only 8 players have been able to.
    If you google WNBA highlights, the top search results are 10 minutes of WNBA fails.
    But you know what? Anyone can stitch a bunch of lowlights together and make something look bad.
    Just look at what Shaq did to Javale McGee early on in his career.
    However, what truly convinced me that the WNBA is as bad as everyone says it is was this video that went viral this past summer.
    So, just to give you some context, some WNBA team won a chip and decided to throw a parade expecting their fans to show up.
    And nobody showed.
    Not a single soul.
    Despite the fact nobody cares about the league, the players aren't better or even as good as the NBA- even if they say they are.
    The women of the league keep coming up with more arguments about why they should be paid better.
    Why aren't they paid the same as the men?
    First and foremost, let's address the elephant in the room, why is there a wage gap?
    Statistically speaking, between the two leagues, there's a major difference in fan attendance and viewership.
    The WNBA had 379,000 people tune in to watch during the 21/22 season across 4 major American networks.
    Compared to the NBA, the NBA had 1.75M viewers that same season across the same networks.
    More viewers = more commercials which = more money.
    Last year, the WNBA generated $60M in revenue through tickets, merch, commercials and sponsorships.
    Whereas their counterpart generated $10B through the same means of sales.
    Finally, there's also a difference in the games played.
    Each team in the WNBA plays just 32 games a season, plus playoffs.
    And in the NBA, teams play 82 games plus the playoffs.
    Fewer games = less screen time. Less screen time = fewer commercials, and fewer commercials = less money.
    The more money the league generates, the more money it has to distribute among its players.
    That's why there's a wage gap.
    Despite people's assumption that the reason for the WNBA's lack of success is due to sexism- it couldn't be further from the truth.
    The WNBA is subsidized by the NBA because women wanted their own basketball league.
    And what happened?
    Barely any women show up to the games.
    Do you know what's even more ironic? More men watch the WNBA than women.
    So in this video, we are going to analyze and dismantle three of the best arguments that WNBA players have come up with on why they deserve to be paid more.
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  • @uvd1
    @uvd1 Рік тому +546

    Lol, they love to complain and ask for donations but are not willing to work on solutions.

    • @standardofexcellence
      @standardofexcellence Рік тому +1

      Divorce court will pay more, too bad they are all ugly or lesbians

    • @carlrojo2693
      @carlrojo2693 Рік тому +43

      Sounds like most women

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 11 місяців тому +30

      "Why isn't my store selling products?"
      "Well the store next door sells a few things you don't have, maybe you should add some of that to your store"
      "Absolutely not"

    • @8PMFORMULA
      @8PMFORMULA 11 місяців тому

      @@kaya856 look at this delusional woman . Go support the wnba

    • @IanMcIntyre-sc2nv
      @IanMcIntyre-sc2nv 11 місяців тому

      @@kaya856 wbna is trash

  • @offthegrid5078
    @offthegrid5078 Рік тому +2167

    If the WNBA ended today. No one would even notice.

  • @14isoldenough
    @14isoldenough Рік тому +1333

    WNBA players should be forced to take financing classes so they understand what every one else already does.

    • @9chilidog
      @9chilidog Рік тому

      Women have a need to be right that allows them to ignore the truth.

    • @joxyjoxyjoxy1
      @joxyjoxyjoxy1 Рік тому +26

      Wouldn't do any good.

    • @savharris5702
      @savharris5702 Рік тому

      Bingo
      ...Only married men pay for things they don't really like---and ironically the party that they're buying said thing for, can't even name 3 wnba players.

    • @dylonmartinez7946
      @dylonmartinez7946 Рік тому +21

      @@joxyjoxyjoxy1exactly bro they already know or should already know how a business in America works

    • @3420boxer
      @3420boxer Рік тому +13

      What? There's a WNBA now??

  • @bingusbongusdingusdongus
    @bingusbongusdingusdongus 11 місяців тому +115

    Crazy that they’re complaining about money, while they’re getting 6 figures a year to play 32 games.
    They get to play their favorite sport for an excellent salary, and they barely have to play any games. They’re incredibly lucky to be making any money

  • @sexylazercatwizard
    @sexylazercatwizard 10 місяців тому +192

    Never underestimate a woman's ability to deny all accountability

    • @jrs1145
      @jrs1145 7 місяців тому +2

      💯💯

    • @edwardso8903
      @edwardso8903 Місяць тому

      and the men too. There are white knights out there. it's actually scary.

    • @kevinelrod323
      @kevinelrod323 4 дні тому

      AND BLAME US (MEN) FOR ALL OF IT!

  • @kennethharrison9409
    @kennethharrison9409 Рік тому +1019

    WNBA players don't realize how right that Bill Burr was when he said that women would rather pay to watch women tear each other down in reality shows, and buy their products. Than they would pay to watch women come together as a team, to accomplish a common goal. That's why the Kardashians are making billions.

    • @youreadisgracepod
      @youreadisgracepod Рік тому +48

      Holy shit I never thought of it like that. That's actually spot-on.

    • @TheZodiacRipper
      @TheZodiacRipper 11 місяців тому

      Women likes to watch men compete because strong men provides the best offspring and therefore men compete. Women on the other hand has never competed with each other like men does , men compete to propagate, women compete to...whatever.

    • @pablot8899
      @pablot8899 11 місяців тому +36

      Yeah - and he pointed out that women do not go to games nor could they even NAME a single WNBA team.

    • @mos.hijinks
      @mos.hijinks 11 місяців тому +7

      It’s definitely THEIR responsibility

    • @ENLIL100
      @ENLIL100 10 місяців тому +13

      Though this may hold SOME weight in certain avenues it’s just the fact that the WNBA is boring and the players(mostly owners) are too stubborn to lower the rims. Even then lady’s just aren’t as athletic as their male counter parts which inherently will gather less attention. But combat sports and table or track sports are different. Both genders are able to do them without changes or stuff like that. Some people men included would happily watch the WUFC over a men’s basketball game. WNBA is just not it is all

  • @jeremyusry6705
    @jeremyusry6705 Рік тому +634

    If there is no revenue and you're always in the negative.... You should be happy you still have a fucking job. Thank the NBA for your job.

    • @masonorosco1090
      @masonorosco1090 Рік тому

      The NBA is stuck with them. And they will never cut off the WNBA because if they do that league will scream racism and sexism and blah blah blah. The reasons why the WNBA is not doing well are obvious yet their player's don't wanna hear it.

    • @EBGRECS
      @EBGRECS Рік тому

      Wish the nba spoon fed me too! Shiiiiit I'll take that job lol I don't even have to put much on my body all wnba players are weak and talentless

    • @14isoldenough
      @14isoldenough Рік тому

      Thank you NBA. Wait. Im not even in the WNBA. Im a man. Fuck you WNBA.

    • @harveyharutunyan7360
      @harveyharutunyan7360 11 місяців тому +40

      A 6 figure salary job too. That's still good money

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 11 місяців тому +15

      @@harveyharutunyan7360 And they play a couple of months out of the year

  • @abelincoln6785
    @abelincoln6785 11 місяців тому +103

    Unequal pay is not the issue, Unequal skill is.

    • @areguapiri
      @areguapiri 11 місяців тому +3

      Lack of interest and lack of revenues.

    • @percymims4860
      @percymims4860 11 місяців тому

      You ever watch women’s basketball ? Skill? Lmao women are normally more skilled due to less athleticism. Y’all just say shit

    • @theoneonly259
      @theoneonly259 11 місяців тому

      Being able to dunk is not a skill. The NBA is full of flying clowns that do not know how to play basketball. Drafted on potential rather than talent. Its trash.

    • @theoneonly259
      @theoneonly259 11 місяців тому

      Why do you think its easier to score in the NBA than in Europe or a place like Australia? Hint - its not just the dumbed down NBA rules that promote scoring - its the fact that typical NBA players are dumb low IQ and unskilled flying clowns that do not know how to play basketball... Ever seen Shaqtin a Fool?

    • @nomercyinc6783
      @nomercyinc6783 10 місяців тому +3

      people arent equals and men and women arent equals either. we can do different things. men and women arent supposed to do the same shit. no mother can be a father and no father is a mother also. womens sports looks childish even compared to college mens basketball

  • @jim6690
    @jim6690 11 місяців тому +251

    "The skill level is off the charts in women's basketball." You could tell he didn't believe it even as the words were coming out of his mouth.

    • @ewjiml
      @ewjiml 11 місяців тому

      Plus the culture of the WNBA sucks. No one wants to support an organization that is spoon fed money because they can’t fustian themselves. No one wants to support a buncha dike-ish women who hate their own country. They need an attitude adjustment. I’d love to get paid half a million for playing a sport I love.

    • @fwelton
      @fwelton 11 місяців тому +10

      As compared to other women. Wait until the first player willing to go trans decides they would rather be the biggest fish in a pond full of minnows than a minnow in pond of sharks.

    • @kevdaddyjohnson7256
      @kevdaddyjohnson7256 11 місяців тому +1

      Facts like WTF 😅😅😅 off-the-charts where

    • @jserv9421
      @jserv9421 11 місяців тому +1

      She's right..They decent players and terrible players..that's pretty off to me 😂

    • @theoneonly259
      @theoneonly259 11 місяців тому

      Im pretty sure that Haley Van Lith would kick your ass one on one. Being able to dunk means you are tall not skilled.

  • @kjparlay
    @kjparlay Рік тому +227

    Wnba players claiming to be underpaid is no different than me complaining I'm an underpaid golfer, even though I'm a 20 handicapper whom zero people pay to watch.
    They literally don't understand they are entertainers.

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 11 місяців тому +5

      Or complaining that female powerlifters don't get as much attention when they lift half as much as men do

    • @TheTruth-on5zx
      @TheTruth-on5zx 11 місяців тому +3

      entertainers need an audience so.....................................

    • @davidcarter6659
      @davidcarter6659 3 місяці тому

      Because they're not entertaining😂

  • @gregoryfosdal7935
    @gregoryfosdal7935 Рік тому +179

    They’re unwavering in their mindset that there’s no faultiness in their product. Delusion is the theme, not confidence.

  • @williamp3591
    @williamp3591 11 місяців тому +167

    As a father of 2 daughters that love basketball I can honestly say that if these WNBA players seriously cared about aspiring young female players, they would stop crying for equality like victims and start pushing for equity. This would begin with the WNBA lowering the rim to 9ft. This is no different than having smaller balls for smaller hands…

    • @TheBigThinker944
      @TheBigThinker944 10 місяців тому +12

      Average height in the WNBA is approx 6ft. There's an argument for it to be lowered to 8ft IMO

    • @vectar
      @vectar 10 місяців тому +6

      @@TheBigThinker944 Yea I'm definitely not convinced 9ft is enough.

    • @robstuart1385
      @robstuart1385 10 місяців тому +1

      Also 75% of the players are masculine LGBT chicks. Who wants watch a bunch of women chest bumping, wearing baggy clothes and pretending to be men? The girls also get their attitudes from 🍆 envy. Their pride gets in the way.

    • @revoltncock
      @revoltncock 10 місяців тому

      They need to gain female viewers and fans and stop expecting men to pick up the tab for them. You could lower the rim to 5 ft and no one would give a single shit. Women don’t watch at the same levels men watch sports and therefore any bullshit changes you make to the sport is only to convince men to watch. That’s the problem. If women don’t want to support and spend their money on female sports than why bitch and moan about a gap and expect men to close the gap or cater to men to make the sport worth watching? It’s so easy to understand.

    • @Teeman44
      @Teeman44 10 місяців тому +2

      Even with lowered hoop, I doubt that WNBA will increase fans and viewers

  • @aeminence
    @aeminence 10 місяців тому +20

    imagine making 200k+ USD a year then essentially having half the year as vacation and being upset over that.

    • @user-fl1zi7bu9c
      @user-fl1zi7bu9c День тому

      Actually, you have to train during the off-season or you come in out of shape (ask Aliyeah Boston)

    • @stevecourtois3741
      @stevecourtois3741 8 годин тому

      average wnba salary for 2022 was 102 thousand . not close to 200000.

  • @boydmccollum692
    @boydmccollum692 Рік тому +163

    the WNBA already has a smaller ball, a shorter 3 point line, and a shorter duration game. But nooooo, we can't have a 9 foot rim. SMH.

    • @justinmcguffey1060
      @justinmcguffey1060 11 місяців тому

      Take your logic and gtfo

    • @VersatyleMusicGroup
      @VersatyleMusicGroup 11 місяців тому

      That part

    • @LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinals
      @LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinals 10 місяців тому +11

      And don't forget they have a shorter season too.

    • @dsbeats5657
      @dsbeats5657 10 місяців тому +5

      For real like honestly getting paid $200,000 for 30 games is pretty nice especially when I know my companies losing money and then if you’re a bench warmer cool, you’re getting paid a quick 100,000 to do nothing but practice. Honestly it’s ridiculous this would be a completely different story if they were actually having people coming to their games and it was a good product but they talk about revenue dude there is no revenue to share 😂

    • @tedski718
      @tedski718 10 місяців тому +2

      Because society has told them there equal they wanna be men make it basketball for women they try to play it like men lower the hoop is a great suggestion

  • @MichaelMackenzie-sb4hx
    @MichaelMackenzie-sb4hx Рік тому +93

    wnba produces negative $12 million a year. players would have to pay $83,000 a year to play. that would be fair.

    • @raydarable
      @raydarable 14 годин тому

      Maybe if they put actual effort into promoting the season, they'd actually make a profit.

  • @michaelkurasz8430
    @michaelkurasz8430 10 місяців тому +49

    I sat down and watched a WNBA game recently. 5 minutes into the game I felt like I was watching a freshman boys high school game. I forced myself to watch all of it. It was brutal! Never again!

    • @greekyogurt5014
      @greekyogurt5014 10 місяців тому

      Why didn’t u leave

    • @chuckthebucket8461
      @chuckthebucket8461 10 місяців тому +2

      At halftime was the combined score over or under 50 points?

    • @philiplewis3679
      @philiplewis3679 4 місяці тому +2

      Sounds about right. Professional women are equivalent to high level 14 and 15 year old boys.

  • @theendistheend123
    @theendistheend123 11 місяців тому +10

    "Nobody showed up, not a soul." COME ON MAN, lets be accurate. I saw AT LEAST 10 people down there.

    • @SwishTalk1
      @SwishTalk1  11 місяців тому +5

      My bad 😂

    • @vamoneygroup
      @vamoneygroup 3 місяці тому

      😂

    • @LIL23FRED
      @LIL23FRED Місяць тому

      I think those were just people on the street, going about their lives. The ""parade""😂, was just passing by at that time. Admittedly there was the ONE guy, "wooooo!"

  • @FernandoGonzalez-mk4ix
    @FernandoGonzalez-mk4ix Рік тому +221

    Shaq's & TMac's proposal to lower the rim is brilliant, but they (ladies) just hate to admit when a guy is right

    • @SwishTalk1
      @SwishTalk1  Рік тому +45

      Facts. They also play with a smaller ball and in a smaller court

    • @bz6046
      @bz6046 Рік тому +11

      @@SwishTalk1 the court isn't smaller the 3 point line is shorter.

    • @JohnSmith-zw8vp
      @JohnSmith-zw8vp Рік тому +1

      No way; lowering the rim would throw everything off...it's 10 feet at every level from the very start. Shrink the ball another inch in circumference instead.

    • @michaelsong5555
      @michaelsong5555 Рік тому +1

      That's not it. The current players don't want that, because they'll have to relearn. One of the players even admitted this. And they know they can't relearn, because their intelligence level is... low.

    • @ftbllguy2515
      @ftbllguy2515 11 місяців тому +16

      @JohnSmith-zw8vp Nah, it's an ego/pride thing. They're pro athletes, meaning the best women in the world at what they do, and people are telling them they're still not good enough. Their response is basically an "F U", which is honestly understandable, but not at all constructive.

  • @dhunter2ful
    @dhunter2ful 3 місяці тому +4

    Imagine a restaurant serving only one kind of dish that sells poorly even after 10 years, and then refuse to change the menu because it would "take time to adjust".

  • @aaronyang5677
    @aaronyang5677 11 місяців тому +17

    That coach is a savage. Selling his house and betting all his money against his own player 😂😂

  • @GTNover
    @GTNover Рік тому +235

    "Layla is into dance, but my next child will be dropstep dunking."
    Congratulations, I hope he makes the NBA.

    • @davemeads859
      @davemeads859 Рік тому

      Lmfao savage AF 😂😂

    • @schnarfschnarf5886
      @schnarfschnarf5886 Рік тому

      They need to play European style or Princeton bball.. No one wants to see Ellen Iverson or girls dunk, you know those dunks are gone be ugly af too.. Make great passes smart plays great shooting... Don't play like men

    • @vincenth.8793
      @vincenth.8793 Рік тому

      …and her next child is by a white woman. I doubt any of Candace’s DNA is in there.

    • @yaknow5252
      @yaknow5252 10 місяців тому +2

      😂

  • @jimmytwotimes802
    @jimmytwotimes802 Рік тому +67

    So funny coach said he would empty his bank account and put up his house, instead of just letting her down easy. Savage

    • @SwishTalk1
      @SwishTalk1  Рік тому +9

      😂😂 it cracks me up every time

    • @dsbeats5657
      @dsbeats5657 10 місяців тому +1

      For real and that dude is literally a legendary coach for UConn. You know the most successful women’s basketball program ever and he keeps it real like they have to realize this is a product, not a sport I mean look at the NFL and NBA they do a lot of rule changes that benefits scoring, because generally people like watching high score games for the Casual audience would enjoy higher scoring games I mean that’s why when NBA players play FIBA is a completely different game because one was made to be more enjoying all the others just purely the sport and I think it’s ridiculous of these chicks with a smaller ball of shorter three-point line Ellis 30 game season think having a 9 foot rim is the worst thing ever 😂

    • @aliceonaka2550
      @aliceonaka2550 9 місяців тому

      He cares about his reputation.

    • @markp7262
      @markp7262 4 місяці тому

      Though I do have to point out that this video implies that Geno was her coach. She went to Baylor, and Kim Mulkey was her coach. Getting that woman to say anything about Griner is like trying to get blood out of a stone.

  • @oneautumnleaff2119
    @oneautumnleaff2119 11 місяців тому +20

    She really tried to get hostile and all it did was make her look stupid lol

  • @Holycheepchit
    @Holycheepchit 2 місяці тому +3

    Imagine having a company for 25 years that has never turned a profit and all of your employees want a pay raise

  • @keithedwards4919
    @keithedwards4919 Рік тому +43

    If the WNBA always wants to complain about the NBA, then the NBA should just withdraw all financial support from the WNBA, and let them run 100% of their own basketball league. That way they can determine their own fate, and distribute the revenue any way they see fit. I'm not sure how long they would last given that they have been losing money for the past 26 years.

    • @juniorquinata1938
      @juniorquinata1938 11 місяців тому

      Hell yeah let them go broke so we don't to hear their bullshit

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 11 місяців тому +11

      I'm sure they wouldn't last half a WNBA season before they're playing for free in a public park, and it won't be in the most popular public park either

    • @davidcarter6659
      @davidcarter6659 3 місяці тому

      They wouldn't know how to😂.

  • @notallowed337
    @notallowed337 Рік тому +57

    It's not up to the male players of the nba to be on the hook for the women's pay gap.
    The current nba players are getting paid because of the revenue that they bring in.
    Based on equality, wnba players should also want their pay based on the revenue that they bring in.

    • @robertsteinberger5667
      @robertsteinberger5667 Рік тому +3

      Olimpic rowers put a lot of time into being competitive but there isnt any money

    • @ftbllguy2515
      @ftbllguy2515 11 місяців тому +4

      Well said, except I would change "pay gap" to "profit margins". The WNBA players want equal revenue shares, but this isn't possible and is a bit misleading because profit and revenue are very different. The NBA makes so much revenue that despite their players getting ~50% of it, the owners still profit. The wnba doesn't have more money to give because it isn't even making a profit. It's all about the profit margin.

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 11 місяців тому

      Women want equality, but they won't protest for plumbers, construction workers, electricians to make their workforce 50% female. WNBA is basically a welfare league eating off the crumbs of a spare couple million to support their league provided by the NBA

  • @JayDay32
    @JayDay32 7 місяців тому +3

    I tune into professional sports to see athletes do things I can’t do. I dunked for the first time at age 15. I played higher level basketball than the wnba. I have no real reason to watch subpar athletes unless it is my own kids in Junior high

  • @gliblyaware
    @gliblyaware 11 місяців тому +4

    4 years ago, when my son was in 8th grade his gold level AAU team played the local HS girls Varsity team who went to the state semi-finals here in California. They played half the quarters with the full sized ball and half with the women's ball. The 8th grade boys won the standard clock game 114 to 17. This includes the fact that the boys were no longer allowed to fast break after the first quarter. They also basically goofed around and loosened the D in the second half, where the girls scored nearly all of their 17 points.

  • @spacebaselykyber
    @spacebaselykyber Рік тому +28

    I’m starting to feel like they’re actually stealing money, if anything.

  • @Heretowatchstuff
    @Heretowatchstuff Рік тому +31

    When you are a self sufficient league, then you could start pushing for more pay.

  • @AdamLovesHorror
    @AdamLovesHorror 11 місяців тому +5

    That coffee analogy at 10:35 was spot on. Things can both be the same, and different at the same time!

  • @yewo.m
    @yewo.m 9 місяців тому +2

    I even have friends who like to tune in and watch NBA games all the way from Malawi over here; that's how popular it is

  • @MrMonoyo
    @MrMonoyo Рік тому +45

    I played some ball in High School; I remember a class and teammate in particular, his name is{was} Michael Silva. He had the height to dunk the ball but couldn't get the jump that he needed to do so. The coach saw Michael's potential and desire and desided to focus on his jumping. After a few months of very hard work on Michael's part, he finally Dunked the ball during an important game against an important high school rival. All of us who were there watching this perticular game were static!
    Michael Silva finally did what He wanted to do in a game, Dunk!!

  • @offthegrid5078
    @offthegrid5078 Рік тому +55

    They have no revenue. They are in the negative.

    • @altonpaige2388
      @altonpaige2388 Рік тому

      You don’t even follow the WNBA so how in the hell do you know anything about each teams revenue?

    • @AdamB34
      @AdamB34 Рік тому

      ​@@altonpaige2388because it's a matter of public record. The wnba has never made a profit in any year, ever. In fact they lose roughly $10 million each season as a league.

    • @ZEKA6666
      @ZEKA6666 Рік тому +15

      @@altonpaige2388 GOOGLE ?

    • @TheodoreBrosevelt
      @TheodoreBrosevelt Рік тому +11

      ​@@altonpaige2388 because they haven't made any money since they started so I'm not sure what you thought changed from then to now.

    • @GrahamCStrouse
      @GrahamCStrouse День тому

      That’s not how money works. WNBA generates revenue-Not that much, but it does generate income. The problem is it also has a lot of expenses, and the expenses dramatically exceed the revenue it generates.

  • @ModernMozart1104
    @ModernMozart1104 2 місяці тому +2

    Notice the wording she uses. "I don't GET a dime." Rather than "I don't EARN a dime." WNBA has been subsidized since day one and has never made a net profit.

  • @QUEENSBRIDGE_10TH_ST231
    @QUEENSBRIDGE_10TH_ST231 10 місяців тому +3

    I actually feel bad for that team who had no one show up to their parade. That is beyond embarrassing, it’s soul crushing.

  • @Cougar139tweak
    @Cougar139tweak Рік тому +27

    Split the debt up between all the WNBA players
    It's like a person that never pays their share of the rent complaining because you never do the dishes

  • @preacherman85379
    @preacherman85379 Рік тому +18

    It used to be when a company didnt make money they went under. This is what happens when everyone gets a trophy.

  • @krenbenz6991
    @krenbenz6991 11 місяців тому +4

    I just hate that people jump to the dumbest conclusions when there is a disparity between 2 people or 2 groups. Generally, there are hundreds of reasons that lead to 2 people having differences in their lives. Its generally not because everyone hates women or are racist or bigoted.

  • @gosur6860
    @gosur6860 10 місяців тому +6

    It’s always been crazy to me when they say “we want the same revenue % shared” like bitch where is the revenue????

  • @vincenth.8793
    @vincenth.8793 Рік тому +25

    Ultimately, no matter how many times they lie… its all about LIFESTYLE, not livelihood.

    • @ftbllguy2515
      @ftbllguy2515 11 місяців тому +5

      Their out here acting like six figure salaries for 4-5 months of work places them below the poverty line smh.

  • @daniellove162
    @daniellove162 Рік тому +10

    NO MEN watch the Kardashians yet they make more than most NBA players. Hmmmmm.

  • @ubaok24
    @ubaok24 8 місяців тому +1

    Women need to support the WNBA. The league also need to add more teams, increase the roster sizes, guarantee rookie contracts. Get better TV deals. Market the players better.

  • @wyssmaster
    @wyssmaster 10 місяців тому +2

    "Why can't we have the same revenue sharing as the men?"
    Nate the Lawyer did a breakdown of this a little while back, and his conclusion was that if the women split the revenue with the league they would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars every year.

  • @swampduck2609
    @swampduck2609 Рік тому +17

    I’ll take it a step further, I don’t think BG would score a single point if she played Boogie 1 v 1.

    • @michaelmorgan6674
      @michaelmorgan6674 Рік тому

      she wouldnt it would be 21-0

    • @jeffreydomingo9478
      @jeffreydomingo9478 11 місяців тому +3

      Im just 6 2 and im pretty fucking sure i have a better chance scoring 1 point than her. There is nothing wrong about being confident, but sometimes you have to be realistic. If grown men playing in tha highest lvl of basketball cant stop cousins, what makes her think she could do it? I mean, cmon.

  • @Aardvarkvideolasvegas
    @Aardvarkvideolasvegas Місяць тому +1

    Luke, I'm also curious; have you ever been to a WNBA game with some of the better teams playing. Did you go to or watch any finals playoff games?

  • @johnnyman1392
    @johnnyman1392 9 місяців тому +2

    A "pay gap" would mean wnba players were playing in the same league as the men players. Why dont they understand this??

  • @BratvaTV
    @BratvaTV Рік тому +10

    Lowering the rim wouldnt even help. Their dunks would be garbage the same way everything else they do is. You aint gonna see 360 windmills.

    • @standardofexcellence
      @standardofexcellence Рік тому +1

      Can't play defense because they have no sense of strategy or competitive instinct, can't layup, can't shoot, can barely rebound

    • @BratvaTV
      @BratvaTV Рік тому

      @@standardofexcellence adult females are nothing more than old children. They lack the size, strength, logic, analytical skill and coordination of men.

    • @gunitdoc
      @gunitdoc Рік тому

      Naw. You can do fun n entertaining shit on lower goals.

  • @NoName-zm1ks
    @NoName-zm1ks 11 місяців тому +7

    That championship parade looked like a funeral procession-scratch that, more folks would show up for the procession.

  • @mountaingod9907
    @mountaingod9907 10 місяців тому +1

    These ladies need some humble pie. Instead of denigrating the NBA and US society they should be thankful for the opportunity to play for money. If they weren’t subsidized the league would have folded after Sheryl Swoopes retired.

  • @strongside4565
    @strongside4565 10 місяців тому

    Even on its face, to say that what the top players make isn't enough, is crazy. The top players make as much or more than just about any doctor or lawyer that isn't private practice/partnered.

  • @brentbush9886
    @brentbush9886 Рік тому +12

    Sometimes you just have to accept failure.

    • @billylaw8193
      @billylaw8193 5 місяців тому

      Have u tried telling a women she is wrong?

  • @NoName-zm1ks
    @NoName-zm1ks 11 місяців тому +4

    They play 32-games season-adding games would be a greater financial disaster, most folks don’t want to pay for what they get to see on the the court.

  • @Mika-me3og
    @Mika-me3og 8 місяців тому +1

    It would be so refreshing to see just one of them be like "oh. Yeah I think you’re right"
    Just like a normal humble human being

  • @jasonwethy8360
    @jasonwethy8360 11 місяців тому +1

    When the girl said she wanted her share of the revenue my thought was, "OK where do they send the bill?"

  • @ckorijonesjr
    @ckorijonesjr Рік тому +23

    this by far been the best WNBA video I’ve seen. Excellent job brother.

    • @altonpaige2388
      @altonpaige2388 Рік тому

      This is the typical far right wing sleep walking bs video.

    • @altonpaige2388
      @altonpaige2388 Рік тому

      This is the typical far right wing sleep walking bs video.

  • @4realGTFOH
    @4realGTFOH Рік тому +8

    What if someone lowered the rim a few millimeters every game until they could dunk and no one told them?💡🤔

    • @fatalx916
      @fatalx916 Рік тому

      lmbo!

    • @theoneonly259
      @theoneonly259 11 місяців тому

      They have trained for years to shoot using a regular size rim..... And only idiots care about dunks.

    • @thomasgirty6397
      @thomasgirty6397 2 дні тому

      they would STILL miss an easy lay up.

  • @dvandal674
    @dvandal674 11 місяців тому

    i watched the wnba in the beginning but then again, it shifted hard and i wasn’t able to watch it on regular tv on an antenna.

  • @guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248
    @guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248 10 місяців тому +1

    I live in Phoenix. My distain for Britney Greiner is such that you'd have to pay me at minimum $50 an hour to watch The Mercury. I would rather watch pro bowling or Olympic Curling than ANY WNBA game.

  • @MA-go7ee
    @MA-go7ee Рік тому +5

    Even saying there's a "wage gap" concedes too much. Male and female players do not play for the same organisation. The idea of a wage gap is incoherent in these circumstances. There's no reason why anyone should expect to earn the same as someone else just because they work the same profession.
    There isn't a 'wage gap' between chefs who work at michelin starred restaurants and chefs who work at Olive Garden.

  • @ggavin9934
    @ggavin9934 Рік тому +12

    You get no money from a jersey sale? What about the 2 your parents bought? Only 2 were sold? Doh!

    • @dislikebutton4981
      @dislikebutton4981 Рік тому +2

      Your jersey revenue came in. Here's your $20. 🤣😂

  • @RovinTan
    @RovinTan 10 місяців тому +1

    When the WNBA generates negative income, they should just quit instead of asking for higher pay. Negative income means no money for your wages.

  • @timothytaylor9835
    @timothytaylor9835 Рік тому +13

    You got to make a profit first then negotiate better pay wages

    • @jinov191
      @jinov191 4 місяці тому

      Not under feminism, all they have to do is keep up the narrative that they are being discriminated against.

    • @timothytaylor9835
      @timothytaylor9835 4 місяці тому

      @@jinov191 The majority of the United States are women so blame women for buying more NBA tickets than Wnba tickets.

    • @dathunderman4
      @dathunderman4 4 місяці тому

      @@timothytaylor9835women aren’t the majority demographic for the sports audience tho. Women do dominate the retail industry tho, it’s why ads for nearly every product (including male products) are aimed at women.

  • @bradyhenricks6601
    @bradyhenricks6601 11 місяців тому

    The most confusing is the lowering of the rim?? When they say, "do people just want to see dunks??" YES! That is when the NBA took off, no one was getting the bags they were now in the NBA pre-dunks.

    • @theoneonly259
      @theoneonly259 11 місяців тому

      Only casual fan idiots care about dunks.

  • @AlbertSzajman-xl3op
    @AlbertSzajman-xl3op 12 днів тому

    You are absolutely correct!

  • @JustBree716
    @JustBree716 Рік тому +30

    I'm a woman and I love to be entertained. I wanna see Dunkin'😆

    • @BratvaTV
      @BratvaTV Рік тому +2

      How weird... You are the first person who I've randomly read comments for on two differnt videos. Yesterday, I saw a comment you made on a Kevin Samuels video. Lol

    • @JustBree716
      @JustBree716 Рік тому +3

      @@BratvaTV I'm all up and through these internet streets 😅🖐️

    • @BratvaTV
      @BratvaTV Рік тому +1

      @@JustBree716 well, nice to meet ya and I'm sure I'll cya around. Lol

    • @standardofexcellence
      @standardofexcellence Рік тому +4

      Duncan doughnuts needs to sponsor and they can use the slogan the only chance you will any dunkin

    • @joxyjoxyjoxy1
      @joxyjoxyjoxy1 Рік тому +4

      Then watch the NBA. Or men's college hoops. Or boys HS ball.

  • @wielandreis508
    @wielandreis508 Рік тому +7

    why play with a smaller ball, if you don't want to lower the rim.

    • @AdamB34
      @AdamB34 Рік тому

      Because they have smaller hands

    • @Vzw-dj9rf
      @Vzw-dj9rf Рік тому +6

      @@AdamB34 You do understand the point, don't you? The WNBA is willing to use a different size ball - to accommodate a physical difference between men and women, but not willing to consider (or even try) lower hoop?

    • @thomasgirty6397
      @thomasgirty6397 2 дні тому

      and shorter season, game and 3 point line.

  • @Echo_Vr
    @Echo_Vr 11 місяців тому

    How many Plum jersey's did they sell last year?

  • @yamamancha
    @yamamancha 9 місяців тому +1

    There is no wage gap. A "wage gap" implies that different employees/workers/contractors of the same or similar employer are paid differently to do the same job despite having equal skills, qualifications, and experience, and producing similar results.

  • @jeffreybaker7947
    @jeffreybaker7947 Рік тому +8

    Stop loosing $10 million a year and expect to get paid more. That's not how business works. Selling out games, sell more merchandise.

  • @chipchipperson80
    @chipchipperson80 Рік тому +8

    There are more women in the world then men. They have a HUGE potential audience. If we're all about equality, how about equal BLAME? The truth - not even women want to watch. Deal with it.

    • @theoneonly259
      @theoneonly259 11 місяців тому

      Umm - plenty of females watch the NBA. ANd plenty of men enjoy watching womens basketball. Basketball is basketball to basketball fans. It doesnt matter what sex the players are.

    • @dbradandthem2727
      @dbradandthem2727 10 місяців тому +1

      @@theoneonly259 your statement reeks of being a Simp. Cut it out. The main audience for WNBA should be Women, yet the avg woman couldn't name two players....

  • @christianmedrano9876
    @christianmedrano9876 10 місяців тому

    In my opinion they should just make the three point line smaller like in the 90s, the wnba is similar to the late 70s and the slow and fundamental play style but without the physicality and dunks, the shortened line increases physicality a bit for less spacing forcing them out of the inside of the arc. Then they should prioritise perimeter ball movement more instead of mostly being inside the three line

  • @bsn0730
    @bsn0730 11 місяців тому +1

    The only reason that holds any logic for me, for wnba players to not want to lower the rim is for convenience of practice. They have a shorter 3 point line already, lowering the rim to 9 ft to allow for more dunks would fundamentally bring more entertainment which is what professional basketball is all about.

  • @Dilldough.
    @Dilldough. Рік тому +5

    This is similar to an actor getting pissed for not getting as much money as another actor who had a more successful film. If you can’t bring in the dough then you can’t make the bread.😂

  • @duranmendez6360
    @duranmendez6360 Рік тому +2

    The WNBA is one commissioner away from not existing and I don't think anybody will notice

  • @christiankarlkarganilla2763
    @christiankarlkarganilla2763 11 місяців тому

    That championship parade with literally the guy recording the video the only one cheering reminds me of that Family guy bit about the WNBA 😅

  • @Vzw-dj9rf
    @Vzw-dj9rf Рік тому +8

    End of the day, you're entertainers. Lower the hoop, make it bigger, use a smaller ball, NBA should just make the changes. If the players want to give up six figures and stay home, I'm sure you can find others that will be happy to take their places. The regular season (2023) runs 5/19-9/10. 16 weeks, 32 games, 100 grand. Nice summer job.

    • @riffgroove
      @riffgroove 11 місяців тому

      They already have a smaller ball.

    • @theoneonly259
      @theoneonly259 11 місяців тому

      Jesus Christ. Why would an And1 fan like yourself even care? You arent going to watch it unless everyone else is right? Ha. Are you still watching And1 though? HA. Ya like dunks do ya? Clown.

  • @adamriddle7425
    @adamriddle7425 Рік тому +5

    This league is the living definition of unnecessary stubbornness to try and prove a point. They all try to make it seem like a lower rim would be some sexist disrespect, but none of them realize or admit that in every sport where physical size and body proportions are a serious part of the sport womens is shorter/closer/smaller. Shaq had a point about volleyball nets, but as a former male volleyball player the hight difference is closer to 6.5 or 7 inches, not .5
    The height differences are present in everything from volleyball to track and field, from softball to golf. Its not sexist either, its scientific. Women on average will be shorter than men so the heights are adjusted for the differences.
    And what makes the argument even more illogical is they play with a smaller ball because they have smaller hands, they have a closer three point line to account for strength differences, so why not play on a lower rim to account for height differences?

    • @theoneonly259
      @theoneonly259 11 місяців тому

      Lower the rim for the NBA and watch the shooting percentages drop. These women have been playing with a regular height rim for years so you cant just lower in to get a few dunk highlights. Only idiots care about dunks anyway. ANd yeah - most NBA fans are %$%$ing idiots.

  • @gradyjones7017
    @gradyjones7017 10 місяців тому +1

    The reason why women don’t get paid the same percent is because you can’t look at percentages when you could have a negative somewhere. There was a growth of jobs in Wisconsin 50% of total National job growth for a certain year, but that was illogical because some states lost jobs. For example, you could’ve said that California had like 130% of job growth that year

  • @JaMorantfan420
    @JaMorantfan420 Місяць тому

    There’s this family guy skit that sums the wnba up pretty well

  • @gators531
    @gators531 Рік тому +5

    I would play basketball for 30k a year

  • @PierreDennis
    @PierreDennis 11 місяців тому +3

    Shieee. I should identify as a woman so I can play in the WNBA & make over $120K for playing 32 games! The fact that they make that kinda money for a business that doesn't generate any income to cover the business is a miracle! They should be grateful that they're playing in the first place!

  • @Chalk89
    @Chalk89 4 місяці тому

    It really infuriates me that adults can partake in such an inferior product, make more money than most Americans and still complain. I worked in sales for a few years - I laughed when it was payday and people would complain while dismissing the sales numbers that show you’re not in their league.

  • @3AHoles
    @3AHoles 11 місяців тому

    Wow. I had never seen that footage of a WNBA parade where they closed off the roads and no one is there to cheer. That is painfully uncomfortable.

  • @nickli4551
    @nickli4551 Рік тому +5

    The investors were russians

  • @JamesSmith-ey7vc
    @JamesSmith-ey7vc Рік тому +3

    Poor TMac

  • @kevinsiu4956
    @kevinsiu4956 Рік тому +9

    Revenue sharing to match the NBA? OK. The NBA pays roughly 50-51% of the league revenue to players. So they get about 5 billion since the NBA generated a net profit of 10 billion last year.
    WNBA loses 10 million a year. So the players need to collectively cough up 5 million just to be allowed to have their own league while thanking the NBA for subsidizing the other 65 million to allow them to even set foot on an NBA court.

  • @Ozvideo1959
    @Ozvideo1959 4 місяці тому

    Rafael Nadal was asked by a female journalist about why the ale tennis players get paid more than female tennis player. He answered female models get paid more than male models, doesn't that count? If the WNBA wants to be really honest with themselves, then they have to look at the standard of the players, they also have to acknowledge that hardly anyone is interested in women's sport, any sport. The exception being tennis. The only other time large numbers watch women's sport is the Olympics.
    Nobody cares about women's soccer, except for the world cup. Nobody cares about women's golf, nobody cares about women's basketball except for the Olympics.

  • @jasonbrown467
    @jasonbrown467 Рік тому +5

    lol at 6 10 and cant dunk? i was almost able to in high school at 5'9"

    • @thomasgirty6397
      @thomasgirty6397 2 дні тому

      when i was 30, 6'4 and weighed 310, in shape. i could dunk about half my attempt's. as for rim height, 6 inch's would not even ber noticed.

  • @rachelslur1404
    @rachelslur1404 Рік тому +3

    I don’t think dunks are particularly exciting, but I think lowering the rim makes sense to make their playing visually comparable to the NBA. Seen too many clips of their play just not looking near as polished. Theyre not as tall on average how does it not make sense to lower it?

    • @jeffreydomingo9478
      @jeffreydomingo9478 11 місяців тому

      Even if they could dunk, i dont think it will solve the problem. They dont move as fast, jump as high, and the way they move isnt the same. We already got spoiled by the nba, or men's basketball in general that we get to compare it. We watch the nba because they do what we cant do and it amazes us. But watching the wnba, players doing crab dribbles, ugly jumpers and lay ups. I will watch it on tv when nothing good is on sure. But will i pay to watch it?no.

    • @stevenscummy1458
      @stevenscummy1458 11 місяців тому

      @@jeffreydomingo9478 it would help add something to the game at least though, dunking is probably 50% of the reason people watch basketball games, especially nowdays when the NBA basically outlawed defense

    • @jeffreydomingo9478
      @jeffreydomingo9478 11 місяців тому

      @@stevenscummy1458 yeah i agree it will do something but they refuse to go through any changes.

    • @theoneonly259
      @theoneonly259 11 місяців тому

      They have trained for years to shoot into a regular size rim........

    • @rachelslur1404
      @rachelslur1404 11 місяців тому

      @@theoneonly259 and? Just cuz they’ve trained doesn’t mean it has to stay that way. Should every new wnba player train to shoot on a 10ft just because the previous ones did?

  • @FranchiseENT202
    @FranchiseENT202 10 місяців тому +1

    The NBA should make them lower their hoop a half a foot and if they dont do it then pull back on their funding....

  • @KordellCaldwell
    @KordellCaldwell 11 місяців тому

    The ball is smaller, the 3pt line is closer, I have no idea why there is such a hard line drawn at the rim height

  • @Adam-tj4oy
    @Adam-tj4oy Рік тому +3

    An under 15 boys team would absolutely crush these women. A top 12 and under boys team would probably still win. But hey men and women are physically the same, so go try out for an NBA team. Oh wait, wnba players should demand spots on NBA rosters and get the nba minimum.

    • @standardofexcellence
      @standardofexcellence Рік тому

      It would take only 3 great or good nba players of an average team to trounce any wnba team, game after game even with a handicap they couldn't play defense or rebound they are fucked and for the first time not by a dildo

  • @nickli4551
    @nickli4551 Рік тому +3

    We back

    • @uvd1
      @uvd1 Рік тому

      I see you bb 😘

  • @brendonross5774
    @brendonross5774 11 місяців тому +1

    They wont lower the rim, but theyre happy to play with a smaller ball? Its so dumb... lower the damn hoop.

  • @BrianDawe
    @BrianDawe 10 місяців тому

    It’s so insane how offended they are about lowering the rim

    • @samd7601
      @samd7601 10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you, I'm ok with even 9ft

  • @colin4839
    @colin4839 11 місяців тому +4

    As a volleyball player its insane how the rim in basketball is the same height for both genders.

  • @DHigable
    @DHigable Рік тому +3

    Will the wnba shut down? We should be so lucky.

  • @suasagala8025
    @suasagala8025 2 місяці тому

    I think the only thing they can do to give it a point of difference is shorten the shot clock to make it quicker.

  • @KKOPPONG
    @KKOPPONG 10 місяців тому

    The value in dunking in basketball is so high THEY LITERALLY HAVE A COMPETITION FOR IT!!!!! The hype around the dunk contest proves that.