Depp-Heard verdict's potential implications on the Me Too movement
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2022
- New York Times reporter Jodi Kantor - who helped spark the Me Too movement with her reporting on sexual assault allegations against film producer Harvey Weinstein - joins "CBS Mornings" to discuss the verdict in the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard defamation trial, including what it could mean for the #MeToo movement, and why this trial struck such a chord with the public.
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The verdict shows that 'no-one' should be able to lie and ruin anyone's life.
@@Akronkangaroo You bet cha.
Why would it hurt your life my life isn’t control by other people.
@@runningbear6391 just don't get married problem solved take your L
Only a western privileged woman could make such statement
The verdict shows that suppressing evidence leads to bad decisions.
If Jodi wants to safeguard the MeToo movement it HAS to represent ALL victims because neither victim nor abuser has a gender. As women we have to admit that our own gender is capable of being abusive, even physically. Claims HAVE to be accompanied by truth.
Absolutely!!
💯 true.
Exactly
Yesss exactly
We already have it called #himtoo.
This is crazy.
Imagine someone accused you of abuse, someone who you have never even met, and you're guilty just because you're a man, and the accuser is a woman.
It's insane.
Welcome to the red pill
And if you by any chance win a defamation case main stream media will try to say that you getting justice for the wrong done to you is a set back for women...it’s disgusting from them.
Men have to be petrified to ask a woman on a date …
@@hollygolightly7475 just white women
@@hollygolightly7475 I wouldn't take it that far, you don't need to be afraid. Just don't be a creep. Read cues. If she looks like she doesn't want to be bothered, don't bother her. Don't interrupt if shes in a group of friends talking. Don't pester on social media. So on. The issue is that people feel entitled. The people who feel that a woman should be honored being asked on a date, or feel entitled to a yes, they ruin it for the people who are simply interested in an innocent date.
The other issue is the response when she says no. There's an overwhelming amount of people who cannot take no for an answer. They belittle, degrade, and harass a woman for simply not wanting to give them their number.
But that goes for EVERYONE. Don't do it to a man either. It would help if men would start putting their exchanges on blast. Like from dating apps or social media. If a woman is being weird, or creepy, or degrading, show us! No one deserves to be harassed. Right now, we see an overwhelming amount of men doing this to women, not so much women doing it to men. Start calling them out. Bring it to light.
There will always be extremists on both ends, whether its misogyny or misandry. We have to find a middle ground.
I love how she tried to make Amber heard a victim of this “online hate machine” without addressing the fact, she lied numerous times. She contradicted herself numerous times. She admitted to being the abuser on audio. You keep hearing her talk about misogyny but it sounds like there’s a serious bias case of misandry. It’s disgusting how they try to spin this.
Could not agree more. What I can't determine is whether or not she does it consciously. If so, it's malice. If not, it's stupidity. Regardless, it's dangerous and counterproductive.
It is bias. Why is she trying to revitalize the credibility of an abuser and liar? This is not giving respect to a movement to empower victims to come forward. It makes a mockery of it.
Johnny's life was ruined by the online hate machine that was targeting him created by her! that's why he had to set up the trial in the first place, she deserves all the hate she gets.
Very odd and sad
How hard is it to just understand that both men and women can be victims of abuse, why is justice for one not seen as justice for all 🤦🏽♀️
Amen.
Them being unable to say that here is so concerning.
Because people like Kantor are making a lot of money out of pushing this divisive bs where all men are all evil and women are all innocent flowers incapable of lying.
She has an income to protect.
Especially public figures. You’d think as people with money and are capable of leveling the playing field they’d understand manipulation is real
Thank you! I don’t get why that’s so hard to understand
Right on!
What Amber Heard did was a setback to REAL domestic violence victims. She sacrificed the progress of the MeToo movement for financial gain. Amber Heard was not attacked, she was not demonized. The public just saw what kind of vile person she is - someone who is willing to say and do anything for her own personal interest/gain and to ruin someone else’s life. SHE DESERVES THIS LOSS. Johnny Depp got the justice he more than deserves.
Thank you! As a survivor myself, she is a JOKE!
Amen!
#MePoo
Absolutely 💯
CBS presentation is very lopsided. They invited everyone who is against johnny
I'm happy to see a lot of actual DV victims speaking out and contradicting this asinine take. Jodi is a perfect demonstration of just how far people will go to perform the dizzying levels of mental gymnastics needed to overlook very clear and very obvious evidence that opposes their views. Notice how she minimizes JD's abuse at the hands of Amber by saying that it was "messy on both sides". Meanwhile, she is a lot less conciliatory when speaking about Amanda's abuse claims. In fact, for her to think that this is a setback for the MT indicates that she believes Amber. She isn't interested in the truth - she just wants validations for her beliefs.
Very well said.
It offends me when people suggest I didn't find Amber credible only because I was jumping on some social media bandwagon. I'm an IPV survivor who watched every minute of this trial and reached my own verdict in favor of JD. Unsubstantiated bias against this male victim if DV is what would harm the credibility of the "Me too" movement.
You are credible up to the point when you said people have been suggesting that to you personally. Where are you meeting these people ... Amber bots don't count .
But what the meetoo lady is talking about is the people using this , that have normally been on the detractor side of any meetoo claim.
Do you think those people just magically went away ? No ... unfortunately there is a certain percentage of Johnny supporters who have been and still are totally offended by women advances in social status. Which that explains the 95+% of people on Johnnys side. Instead of what we normally see for split numbers with an 80-20 being about max.
Which IMHO ... I don't think we have to worry about them that much. They will reveal themselves at the next juncture of the meetoo issue ... in which I think it is clear to see , meetoo in the long run will be better for this verdict. Because I think in about 5 such cases like this going in favor of someone like Amber ... Society would be ready to go back to witch burning since truth couldn't be relied on anymore.
I am a woman, and I STAND WITH JOHNNY.
Same and not bc he is Johnny Depp, it‘s bc all the facts. I will never support a fake victim but will support true victim no matter the gender.
Thank You 🥂
Don't stand as a woman you need to know your place and sit.
@@spicemarine1884 relax 🤣😂 wtf
@@spicemarine1884 Give me a chair and I will sit down for you, no problem my master
This lady's speech is very scary for everyone experiencing DV. Heard lied , period.
This is obviously a very black and white trial.
Eerie, all of the reporters out there.smh
Lied and make up absurd stories, hopefully she’ll fall off the planet and take Elaine and Whitney with her
ABSOLUTELY!
We aren’t Johnny Depp “fans”. We watched the trial, saw the evidence and clearly saw she was lying 😂 Simple as that.
Im a survivor of physical abuse, and I watched this trial from beginning to end never missed a minute of it and the story you should be talking about is that violence and domestic abuse is simply the same no matter what gender. Heards team didn’t have the mounting evidence that Mr.Deeps team had, I became engrossed in this trial because I couldn’t believe that someone would lie about such a serious thing such as abuse. But as the trial went on it was clear that she lied. My partner is a man who Ive seen first hand suffer abuse from his ex girlfriend who has now turned around on social media accusing him of the emotional and physical violence she inflicted on him.
Im a women and a survivor and barely made it out alive from my past relationship, which is why Im sickened and think it is a gross injustice to lie about a story that so many people -both men and women have endured. But yet you don’t report what truth Mr. Deeps team has brought to light, that is women abuse too and lying about it is wrong and is ethically immoral to those TRUE VICTIMS of domestic and sexual violence. Your reporting is completely biased. I was on Ms. Herds side at the beginning but over the course of the trial it was clear she was the violent and emotional ABUSER. It was a toxic relationship but she lied. I don’t understand why the conversation that ABUSE IS ABUSE NO MATTER GENDER. I am woman and don’t think this is a set back for #metoo this is different she took advantage of a movement and was held accountable for it. Let her and him move on and heal and let’s recreate the narrative that abuse to people is abuse period.
It’s strange it’s 2022 and no one believes men too can be abused what a SHAME!!!
It’s sad
It makes me so angry. People are quick to call a man an alleged abuser but they don’t even want to say that about Amber. This is coming from a woman abused myself. I sympathize to the men who are watching this crap. Being a victim isn’t gendered.
It really is strange, because an abuser could be ANYONE regardless of gender. Yes there are cases that women have been abused by men, but no one looks at men being abused by women. It really is a shame! 😕
@@minervaowl8298 agreed!
Yes, 2022 and it is still a huge STIGMA against men to admit to being victims of domestic abuse. Then again, I am not surprised. We have even taught our men that circumcision, a crime against their own personal bodies, is something to be accepted.
Undeniably there is definitely a lack of empathy for abused men. This has to change.
Its definitely going to change now, this is a BIG stepping stone for men who are abuse victims, regardless of what feminist media say.
Deffinately and I hate to say it but it's all the female reporters waging their opinions. I feel like the men want to say something but are too afraid for fear of upsetting people. The me too movement was a positive thing when it started but I really hoped the verdict in this trial would open up conversations on men being victims too. Everything is so politically correct these days. America is supposed to be about freedom of speech but now men are afraid to voice their opinions on mainstream media incase they upset the women. People are too sensitive these days which means we can't have open and honest conversations. This is why more and more people look to you tubers for news where we can get the truth. I watch that umbrella guy, yellow flash and popcorned planet for news
Agree. Some people refused to think men can be victims and it's terrible.
Welcome to the red pill
And there is undeniably no presumption of innocence in regards to any man that is accused of anything by a woman. They have to prove they’re innocent as opposed to the women having to prove he is guilty
Wow. Just unbelievable. Obviously they have not watched the whole trial. Does any media do real fact check? No wonder Amber was so confident she was going to win. So proud of the jurors who weighed the overwhelming false evidence by Amber to give justice to the truth to Johnny.
@K
this is why Johnny and his legal team fought for the cameras inside the courtroom
@@Roy3.16 So glad he did. There was no other way to "show" the truth.
Imagine wanting someone who lied about SA with a broken bottle to be part of your movement. You can't just go about lying about people in the worst most filthy way and expect to walk away Scot free.. imagine she was accusing your son...brother.. dad.. you still got pity for it???
She was literally leading y’all movement just goes to show how easy it is to manipulate women if you tell them what they want to hear
@@PainxSorrow the whole thing is nonsense as the lawyer and those who champion it have made it so.. saying things like only 10% if women lie about SA, so they should just be believed and even when the evidence is in they should still be believed as it looks bad for actual survivors of sa, that's some backwards thinking! What about male survivors of SA, do they just accept the blame for the 10% who lie to stop women being sent backwards decades in their rights and believability? it's utter garbage. Only a narc would follow and expect others to do likewise, with that logic if that's the team they're swinging for. I'm surprised heard wasn't diagnosed as a pathological liar and narcissist with the other diagnosis, they're pretty common co-morbid mental illnesses..
@@malastarot u right
Wow, what a bitter woman.
The ONLY “implication” is that if you lie about abuse you deserve the consequences.
I thought the same. 👍
@@sallyyeomans3456 They only say how women “can be set back”. Well maybe AH shouldn’t have maliciously defamed JD. Zero empathy for abused MEN.
This Jodi woman is biased beyond words. Thank goodness she is not a juror based on her narrow mindedness.
@@goldenpig0711 Yeah, Jodi sure wouldn’t be my idea of a fun date 😵💫
It's obvious she's sexist
This woman is clueless. Amber can not tell the truth. Ever. It’s that simple She set it back
Did they even watch the whole trial, or did they just cover their ears and eyes and say LaLaLaLa once Amber heard starts lying and contradicting her statements. Even go as far as manipulating evidence.
Exactly. Only about women, even if they defame a man. Zero empathy for abused MEN. Typical of MSM.
It’s hilarious how hard these folks are trying to defend an abuser and liar
The “me too” celebrities are afraid to criticize any woman who makes allegations. The
“believe every women” who steps forward has not aged well.
This case was particularly different because looking at the evidence, SHE was the abuser.
Exactly. It’s amazing that this whole segment was how this could hurt women. No one EVER mentions how often MEN can be hurt and abused.
"For whatever reason, Amber Heard was not believed. How will that affect the MeToo movement?" You cannot consider the question without going back to what you deliberately ignore---the reason she was not believed. She obviously lied, over and over and over. Those of us who watched the trial decided based on what we saw. Engage with the facts, first, then ask your questions.
And these "journalists" forget (or mislead) that Heard WAS believed, 6 years ago. She was believed for half a decade up until this trial. The tapes came out a few years ago and some people heard them and realized she was the abuser and the defecation story became gossip, but it wasn't until this trial and verdict that the truth became understood. Without the televised trial, without the strong verdict, Depp would still be the monster to most people, Heard the hero. Talk about male privilege.
It's just a way to reinforce that "evidence" is not a reason not to believe all women. No matter what proof a man has, he is always guilty. Media wordplay and manipulation at work.
Amen ! 🎉 ❤️
her attorney loudly said in this inteview they have medical record meanwhile amber loudly said in the court she never got any medical treatment for all of her injuries... which one is the liar between them?😂😂
Are you a Republican?
If MeToo was truly, TRULY faithful, there would be as much talk about abuse towards men as much as it does with abuse towards women. It really made me scratch my head the way Ms. Kantor basically not acknowledging the abuse Johnny Depp went through. Yes, for all of the salaciousness of the trial, Johnny Depp was an abused man, so why wouldn't people want to see the trial, have views on the trial? Because it's not everyday or even every year we hear about a male celebrate, much less a man in general being abused by their female significant other.
So a man defending himself when a woman threatens his reputation with lies is being inconsiderate? That's ridiculous, this has nothing to do with the me too movement.
"Tell the world, Johnny, tell them,'Johnny Depp, I, a man, I'm a victim of domestic violence'. And see how many people believe or side with you."
Johnny: “done”
👏👏👏👏👏🙏🏻
Are you guys serious. She lied! She tried to ruin the man’s life! The evidence is OVERWHELMINGLY in JD favor. She couldn’t take 1 picture out of all the pictures and videos she took of her face beaten and bloodied? Because it didn’t happen. This sets back women because now they have to have picture proof of their wounds or they won’t be believed….. BECAUSE OF HER.
Amen to that. You are not only intelligent you also have a sense of justice.
Spot on!!😊
They don't care, MSM cares more about the image than the cause itself. No room for nuance for them.
No bad thing to have to produce evidence of claims you make. Unless you think we should just believe women.
Welcome to america the land of the free if your a woman literally can catch a body and your getting support because “I’m a survivor”
This was a setback - to people wanting to claim false allegations.
I wish MSM would stop inviting guests who haven’t seen the entire trial. Guests who have not watched the trial should just not speak. PERIOD.
This case showed that not every "me too" woman says true...
Agree 100%
Yes, not every woman speaks truthfully.
And not only women are abused. This isn't about men vs women. It's about abusers vs victims.
This wasn't a case of "me too." Literally nobody else who has known Johnny Depp has ever come forward. Disgusting.
disagree. this case showed that the "me too" movement has no gender
When she claimed she was assaulted with a liquor bottle and then had no medical or law enforcement evidence to back it up, not to mention flew to the states the next day, she totally lost me. She's a liar, a manipulator, and she's abusive. I'm glad she lost.
She did not see her doctor or go to a hospital that would phone the police. she lied.
Although there are women who don't seek treatment for one reason or another, there are plenty of other things a real victim can show to demonstrate abuse. Amber just didn't have it. And despite her attorney saying Amber had a lot of evidence that was suppressed, her testimony alone was telling. Her tone was flat, her emotion felt fake and when she told the stories about the alleged incidents, they just seemed made-up.
@@kaylapounds1359 I could not put that better.
@@kaylapounds1359 any chance you know why they couldn’t use those evidence they claimed to have?
@@dianalee7249 because she was lying here. My point isn't about her, it's about the fact that you can't use a misconception that just because Amber lied that every accuser is also lying.
If your castle will tumble down because justice was served or the truth was told, you don’t have a castle, you have a house of cards.
She was "not believed", Cuz she was caught lying and FALSELY accusing an innocent victim of her machinations, in front of the whole F world!
An overwhelming amount of people believed Amber when she announced that she was donating the 7 million dollars. After watching her on camera, as someone who worked directly with survivors of DV, she did not convinced me that she was the victim in this case
Metoo died today. Too bad hahahahahahahahah
@@stokes2672 it didn't did you not realize that Johnny Depp was a victim of domestic violence take your L loser
I hope the judge not recommend charges of perjury against her for all the lies she told in court. I can't even count them all.
I struggled to believe a DV victim would seeming seek confrontation and provoke their abuser?
In any of the recordings, I expected to hear timidity, meek compliance, fear of triggering an attack.
We got none of that.
For most DV survivors, filing for a TRO is a terrorizing and emotionally overwhelming experience. AH was having a photoshoot in the courthouse!
This case showed that men can be abused too and should come forward about it instead of staying silent. AH relied on Johnny being too ashamed to come forward, but he did and the public believed him. AH was proven to be a liar on the witness stand several times based on evidence and her own testimony and that of her friends. The jury couldn't believe anything she said.
It's scary seeing how some people are willing to sacrifice justice and condemn innocent people, all for the sake of protecting an agenda. We can be against DV and abuse against women while simultaneously supporting what is right.
@@jdavis8970 It's only scary to people with an agenda that does go against truth. So if you find her words so troublesome , which she is merely speaking to an obvious question , and possible effects that only time will tell. Says you might be trying to protect an agenda not grounded in truth ??? (just a question to answer for yourself , or not)
Which any social issue has detractors that come across as very slimy. And I don't think this woman or any body in the news asking responsible questions is slimy.
Because unfortunately the slimy brigade has been riding the coat tails on Johnnys truth and justice. Which I guess is why we see a 95ish% of people in favor of Johnny.
Instead of the usual 80-20 ish % max on other social issues. Which I am sure in time they will then be revealing themselves and what they actually stood for.
Well then if you are a survivor you clearly still need more therapy because you don’t recognize a con artist, Johnny Depp, when you hear and see one. Dude is a total tool. Drugs, alcohol, disappearing, cheating. Pleeeeeaase! He used to ghost her and others regularly. Just disappear and reappear when it suited him. THAT behavior will make anyone act out of sorts or “crazy” as AH has been described. It amazes me how many so called “survivors” are still hoodwinked by these type of men.
@@christinefury1040 Sounds like you talk to Amber regularly ... enquiring minds want to know if she is thinking of moving in on Melania's territory with tRump . Or is she going to pack it in , and go be an arm trophy of a Russian oligarch , maybe even Putin ?
She was attacked on line because we were able to watch ourselves and see who the abuser was
I am a woman... and I find it disgusting the idea of "believe all women". I understand hat ANYONE claiming abuse should be allowed to speak and have their voices served, regardless of gender. Her intro was on point for the fact that this was not a cut and dry #metoo case. Amber Heard was not the best poster child for that movement as she had her own dirt. And that was what ppl responded to. She came in picture playing victim, but never showed her own issues and p did not like it. Unfortunately in this age of SM their is massive group think, but if you want to use such waves of SM to support #metoo youu also need to accept the downside of it especially if your closet isn't clean.
3 things to recognize in this case:
1. People saying this is too public and had became a circus to humiliate Heard - WHEN - it was Heard that wrote a defamatory op-ed about Johnny and tweeted that she did in fact wrote it AFTER Johnny had already paid her in the divorce and settled this privately. It was Heard that wants this to become a public circus in hope to humiliate Depp. The real victim wanted to move on peacefully and quietly but the abuser wanted the victim to be entirely ruined, therefore, the victim fought back.
2. People think that defamation lawsuits keeps victims from speaking out in fear of legal action is an infringement to free speech, but free speech does not mean you can take advantage of it to reputably ruin someone with lies and go unpunished. Real victims will always have evidence as strong as Depp does, where as lies are not evidence and can never win the court of law.
3. People thinks it is a an odd and unreasonable thing that Heard was not believe when it is just as odd and unreasonable that they do not believe Depp just because they are relying on prejudices and stereotypes against a gender.
She humiliated him and ruined his reputation but these people are upset because he's a man.
Also worth noting that it was Amber's team that wanted this televised.
Exactly!
The #metoo movement SHOULD step up and represent all victims of DV * SA!! This is ridiculous they shouldn't pick and choose. The truth finally won in this case!! He won because she couldn't keep her lies straight. Plus, she needs help mentally, because she is a predator in her own actions and words!!!
The setback for women isn't Johnny winning the case, it's Amber lying about domestic violence. What Amber did for real DV is catastrophic, shame on you, Amber.
Why the media does not say "this is a step forward to protect men from false accusations"?
Basically Jodi has said that even AH made false allegation against Johnny, she should not be sue because other victims would be scared to come forward. This is just unfair. Justice and fairness should be served to men and women alike.
How people could still be on her side is insane. The evidence literally shows her to be a guilty, evil and a horrible person. Well, as we see from this case, they're are a lot of people like Heard, and they're the ones supporting her.
Because they have a agenda to push. The media lies.
Because we need to believe all women apparently
I really think no one is on her side... this woman talking is against Men in general and pro women no matter what they do, so this woman is not an example of what normal and sane people think about AH. AH is a liar and a bad person, period.
Big Facts, 10% of all people (at least) are sociopaths, and the loudest ones are women on social media/feminazis. #MePoo
@@aloelover6012 a woman says she's a dinosaur, yep believe her🤣
The thing that’s hurting the me too movement is the doubling down and defending the lying abuser because it’s a woman. The public was on her side until the facts were brought to light in court. Supporting JD is supporting victims.
Also, cameras should be in courts for the same reason cameras should be on cops.
As a abuse victim that’s what hurts me that people believe liars and narcissist. I’m so disgusted.
💯
Yes, and in this case it is so obvious that she is a liar and abuser it is almost comical . If this is still discussed I can’t imagine the results of other cases like this. If people still support Amber this shows how crazy the world has become .
True
@@minervaowl8298 welcome to the red pill u ain’t been woke u been sleep
Do they not realize to falsely accuse someone of rape and torture is so evil and cruel.
The only thing it does is hopefully stop people from lying and making false allegations...
The only ones who should be worried about this case and its outcome are liars, whether they be male or female. I can't imagine a true victim of DV, such as myself, and SA as looking to AH as an example. I don't condone any of the violence towards her, but maybe she and other potential false accusers will be more cautious before attacking their victims going forward. We can only hope.
i condemn Miss Heard's violence inflicted upon Mr. Depp. She SEVERED HIS FINGER!
👍👍👍👏👏👏
What violence did she face?
@@Jaggededge112 I think they mean any future violence
@@sunshin3697 I don’t condone that either. Violence is never the answer.
My cousin was sent to prison because his ex girlfriend and mother of his daughter accused him of rape all the while she was cheating on him. Her sister even backed up her story which made him look guilty. It wasn't until a few years later that new evidence and actual witnesses came forward and he was released and found inocente of all charges. He now lives peacefully with his daughter trying to be the best father for her. As for his ex and her sister I really don't know what happened to them. I think he refused to press charges as long as he had full custody of his daughter and never get to see her ever again. Johnny Depp was right that we need to go back to Inocente Until Proven Guilty.
His ex gf should sue you for defamation
@@SM-ce1uy That would be both pointless and not very smart.
That ex girlfriend would merely highlight her own, her mother and her sister's crimes (E.g. purgery) to a court if she brought thing to a court.
She might end up in jail if she followed your suggestion...because lying in a court is a crime.
Damn I sorry to hear that.
it's so scary when someone manipulated people for something you didn't do..
@@SM-ce1uy you talk a lot of crap. Have you ever said somthing sensible.
imagine making a baseless accusation and then facing the consequences for that
oh the horror......
This only hurts the women who are lying
I wish she commented on how prejudicial it is to real victims when someone lies about being a victim/survivor. If there's anything from this case that truly harms true survivors, it's not the defamation case, it's the mess Amber created that will deter anyone from coming forward out of fear of not being believed. Or even abusive partners referencing this case whenever their victims consider exposing them. Amber Heard is a disgrace.
THIS!!
FACTS!
You're not a "survivor" if your life wasn't endangered. I'm so tired of the way women deliberately misuse words as a way of lying. You're saying someone's life was in danger when it wasn't. That's a lie
The lesson anyone should take here is 1) don’t abuse your partner, 2) don’t lie and make up bs about others, definitely not under oath on court and 3) men can be victims in DV too
Sigh 🤦🏾♂️ we so far gone we really gotta explain common sense to people
2:01 that silence was so loud 🤣🤣
All experts aren't experts. She's definitely not one
If the MeToo movement does go away. Then it will be on Amber. She chose to lie about the horrific abuse, especially when it's revealed she was the abuser. She personally made it hard for 'actual' victims to come forward. Justice was served in this trial.
How did she make it hard? If the person is telling the truth, then the truth is it's own defense. What it says is you just can't come out and accuse someone without proof. In a court of law that is how it is and that is how it should be. This will filter out the opportunistic band-wagoner's who for whatever reasons allegations
And they are still siding with her!?! I haven't heard anything from them... But if you support a liar just to protect your reputation what kind of ethics and values do you support?
@@maximillianexcaliber6593 well, in some instances, there'll be people accused of pulling an Amber, even if they have proof because of some toxic people.
Please stop victimizing all this.
No one is cheering for the home team, people were cheering for the truth and justice. Amber had NO credibility.
I lost any potential future respect for Jodi Kantor here
If she were an honest person she would be angry at Amber for harming the movement. Instead, she wants to pretend Amber's lies never existed.
its Me Too without Heard it only hurts liars who abuse the system.
I thought the word "misogyny" would start to be tossed around in the absence of any real evidence. In my experience, a lot of the anti-Heard commenters were female survivors of abuse who recognised their own abuser in Amber Heard and saw themselves reflected in the experience of Johnny Depp. There was also a ton of male survivors of female abuse who were saying, "Yes, Amber Heard is exactly like my abuser." This was not a tirade of misogynistic toxic masculinity, so quit this nonsense while you still have some credibility.
This 💯👏👏👏
Exactly I'm a victim of abuse and I knew right away she was lying
People like her will throw out the word misogyny but won't dare acknowledge that misandry also exists. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Bravo!!! 👏👏👏
@@jomoon1240 I'm not but I couldn't watch her testify. I had so much disgust for how obvious it was she was lying about everything.
It was like a visceral reaction of utter contempt and disgust for what she was doing.
Oh please they didn’t need a campaign, the way she behaved and how there was no tears showed people her true colors 🤷♀️
It’ll help MEN who have also been abused to come forward. Why aren’t we considering what this means for them? Metoo is never going to disappear but we also need to support men who are abused.
Metoo died today, hehe
Yes! I agreed.DV can happen to any genders and this is a 21st century. Please look at the fact
@@stokes2672 its now mepoo 😳
Woke ... should be supporting both woman and men ... abuse is abuse no matter of your gender
@@caz2634 exactly, I agree with you.
I'm a DV and SA victim and it has no effect on anyone. There's no facts in lies and this shows if ur telling the truth u will be believed but if u make terrible allegations u will be found out and there should be consequences for them
Like almost every accusation in meetoo, this was also a false accusation.
This is not a setback to women at all! Its justice for both Men and Women. Abuse has no gender!! I was mentality abused and I stand with Johnny!
Well said !!!!
Wow Jodi Kantor is in denial! The look on everyone’s faces (1:53) when she said it was unclear who won…priceless! Did she even watch the Trial??? She should’ve consulted with her PR before speaking here.
😅 She's trying to reframe it into " we won...kinda".
This was not MeToo. There were no other women saying MeToo
Supporting a liar weakens your cause
Everyone is missing the point. The public will not support people who take advantage of using "Me Too" allegations! She was caught lying numerous times and used the "Me Too" standings to earn browny points. This is why the public is outraged and side with JD.
I did not know how generous Johnny Depp was I learned wonderful things about him in this trial from her side as well
Like what drugs.....
@@itsbeyondme5560 they were both on drugs dingaling
@@itsbeyondme5560 amber and her sister doing drugs so they’re same
@@itsbeyondme5560 don’t you shame recovering addicts. They may have their demons but not all are violent people. AH is a coke feign.
This is INSANE.
The law is the law, public opinion and social media played absolutely no part in the findings of the jury and the way people keep trying to spin this in that direction is disgusting. This woman seems to imagine that every man should face the trial of public opinion, that the mere accusation of abuse should be enough to destroy someone and no jury, no evidence, no legal process is necessary.
And you'll all notice that this woman doesn't give a damn about the torrent of abuse and humiliation Depp faced when Heard made her false allegations, and that wasn't from just a few Twitter accounts, that was the ENTIRE MEDIA.
I'm a bleeding heart liberal but I want no part of a "social justice" movement which attacks the rule of law and claims that all men are abusers and all women are incapable of lying, even after a trial in which the woman ADMITTED to abuse, failed to produce any evidence that she was a victim and even presented blatantly falsified photos in an attempt to lie.
This MeToo movement has destroyed itself, assisted by Heard and women like Kantor who seem obsessed with a narrative that all men are evil and all women meek and innocent beings incapable of lying.
Believe all victims, but require a legal process.
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Thank you this is absolute madness! I can't trust any mainstream media platform anymore because they are outdated and out of touch with reality.
Very well put!!!
MeToo isn’t going anywhere.
Intelligent women can see the misogyny within their relationship. He’s NOT a saint. She unknowingly married a drug addict and alcoholic. Unless someone has lived a life like that with someone you love and care for, there is no telling how one will react with such emotional distress. She was not equipped to handle the marriage with him and did not know what she was getting into. He supplied her with drugs and alcohol, what kind of husband does that?
The truth is that she lost it due to the emotional distress of being with someone she loved who could not handle the mess that he had created with her.
@@brooklyn3299 liar
The jury did not see all the on line public comments
The anchors tried to keep her accountable somewhat, but didn’t really press her and allowed her run her mouth, not wanting to do much than thank her for coming on her platform and running some views for the channel, not wanted to deter others. But she runs her mouth and really does perpetrate defamation here, there has been a verdict on this. If Depp was more litigious, he would sue this channel, and he’d win. Same goes for her lawyer’s appearance on the show; they should be taking legal advice because allowing people to defame Depp with respect to a decided case on the same matter puts their channel in hot water. It’s of course very unlikely Depp would take action, but the other obvious result is that the channel and its anchors lose all credibility, which is a shame because some of them probably have some real talent. The comments to this and other videos say it all.
I refuse to watch MSM, this is a perfect example of it. They are so damp bias.
Amber heard is a disgrace for all those poor woman who truly suffered from abuse.
And poor men who suffered abuse and false accusations too.
The verdict isn’t a “setback” it’s a step forward it is a signal that no matter your gender or sex you cannot falsely accuse someone of something they didn’t do, you cannot use your status to weaponize hatred against the opposite sex, amber heard is a liar and an abuser. This trial showcased that men can be and are victims of abuse at the hands of women and to ignore that is disgraceful
This.
But he has weaponized hatred against her
it's a 'set back" for abusive women.
cus the abusive women have control over the aclu , the me too movement, the media. etc
Word
@@SM-ce1uy no she did that all by herself by lying, cheating and abusing Johnny Depp, the evidence showed this to the public and the public has responded accordingly
Jus like AH, MeToo movement never takes any accountability! Dont try to dodge the bullet, instead accept your wrong and maybe the movement will continue to truly stand for its purpose! If not, it will fall as quick as AH did!
Bless these poor reporters. First Elaine, and now this lady. These reporters are trying so hard to be polite and politically correct. They all know that Amber is a pathological liar, but they have to suppress their true feelings. I wouldn’t work in this environment for a million dollars.
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Spot on
they are disgusting actually in fact to call them reporters or media journalists is tragic
The media is part of the problem!
Pathetic excuse for reporters. Afraid to discuss the true facts of the case.
I don't know why it is difficult to believe that men can be recepient of Abuse and they can be a victim too.....Why the mainstream focus is on women who might not come out but rather it sets an example that women who are abusers and liars cannot hide behind and claim themselves to be a victim of Abuse.....Also more men needs to come forward like Johnny Depp did.
As for Me too movement...... everything had its course and seems like this movement has run its course.
Good thing this trial was televised. Public can form their own opinion based on what they watched rather than relying on the MSM (some are obviously biased towards AH). The percentage of a women being abused is higher than men being abused. But don't forget that small percentage of men being the victim of DV is significant too, they matters too. There are men who are victim of DV who don't want to come forward or report their female abuser because they think no one will believe them because they are man. I hope the people in media should have discuss also the implication of this trial to those victim of DV who happen to be a man.
I don’t think she is able to answer a straight question.
Me too should stand for all the abused, women or men! Why not say that this verdict encourages men to come forward to tell their stories? The gender bias is so flagrant!
“For whatever reason, was not believed.”
What? Probably because of all the evidence against her….
Why would it hurt other women coming forward? This one involved a newspaper article blaming a man for DV against a woman. 99.99% of cases of DV don’t involve outing abusers in the media so it doesn’t conflate with the overwhelming majority of cases.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the day you will always remember as the day you almost caught Captain Jack Sparrow!
When I listen to this interview I see her ducking and dodging the question that they're asking. This verdict did not set back the me-too movement. This verdict let victims know you will be believed and your abusers will be held accountable so don't give up fight as hard as you can.
What all of these people on these clown panelists don't understand is victims come in all shapes, sizes genders, sexual orientation Etc. And the me-too movement doesn't necessarily just be about woman it's about victims coming out telling their story and seeking justice. Women are not the only ones who go through this men do as well but it's harder for them to step out in the spotlight and tell their story
Thank feminism for this bullshi
@@PainxSorrow Oh I see you are an Amber supporter . Which the meetoo movement would have been tarnished by her winning.
But thanks to her now being a clear example of how it can be abused ( like anything can) The meetoo movement will now march forward being able to grow and evolve into something better and stronger. Which I'm sure abusers like you and Amber find troublesome.
While the “me too” movement had some positive effects - the “believe all women” (regardless of evidence) aspect wasn’t very good.
I was told that feminism was for everyone, but I am now seeing how toxic branches of it have harmed both men and women.
For men that have been mentally/physically abused, this was a huge win.
@@susan6800 There isn't really any "may have" about this any more. It did. And, frankly, it was always going to. As the OP said, believe regardless of evidence. Literally any woman with any axe to grind could make up what she wanted and get her revenge. It was begging to be abused.
Just because one woman lied on several occasions, under oath and penalty of perjury, she and others are doubling down and saying women won’t be believed? That’s gold.
Nothing screams equality like ideology before truth.
If anyone falsely accuses someone of domestic violence or rape they should face the same legal consequences as a real perpetrator
Yes, she needs jail time
What Amber did was make a mockery of those of us who are REAL victims of abuse! It is vile and disgusting that they still are trying to defend her! Have they forgotten the past six years of hate Johnny has received? Amber and her team can shove it!
All real victims can still come forward, but all the fake victims should shut up forever!
If you are telling the truth there is no need to be afraid.
This case brought the truth about how some woman used the me too movement as a weapon against man
She doesn't represent woman she lie a lot.she was the abuser this lady doesn't know how is to deal with a narcissistic person.
Not mentioning the fact she admitted several times on tape that she hit him
At this point they're trying to avoid all that
How would it be set back?
It showed with so much proof that she is a liar.
Seems like so many TV shows and so on are forgetting that she was on tape she gave JD black eyes
"For whatever reason, Amber Heard was not believed. How will that affect the MeToo movement?"
OBJECTION - leading!
The ''MeToo'' movement lost the plot when it morphed into ''believe all women.'' Despite the fact that women are far more likely to be DV victims than men, choosing to believe one group based on gender is nonsensical. Heard lost the case because she wasn't credible; she lied and equivated throughout the trial, even when it wasn't necessary.
Amber is an Abuser but no one is saying this ,they are just blaming Johnny Depp's star power? Amber presented herself as an innocent woman which shes not I cant wait for Johnny's team to give Interviews and debunk all this lies.
Ikr ✅
The trial would only discourage liars to go to court and lie...!!!
What ever was directed towards her fro a public is very well deserved.
This verdict served two purposes only: it exposed a lying abuser who happened to be female, and it allowed men to not feel ashamed of coming forward when they've been abused by women.
The broader implications are that men and women should speak out even when their partner claims, "No one will believe you!"
JD the VICTIM, Won the case. AH the ABUSER lost. Justice was served even though the man was the abused. More abuse victims should be heartened.
It`s not that the internet is AGAINST AH but the internet is FOR justice
-A victim of abuse does not chase around ones abuser and call them a "baby!" for complaining about getting physically abused.
-A victim of abuse does not take embarrassing photos of ones abuser and share them because that would potentially put one in dangerous situation
-A victim of abuse does not give ones abuser a knife as present that contains a message that could be interpret as a death threat.
-A victim of abuse does not need to lie all the time and fake evidence
-A victim of abuse does not laugh and smirk at ones abuser
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This woman's comments just made the me too movement a joke in my eyes, especially since I am a passionate advocate for women's rights. Her and Amber are who and what's taking away the movements credibility because no matter what justice and fairness must prevail
I'm a passionate advocate for men's rights.
Could we stop talking about women's rights, men's rights, it's so divisive and destructive.
We don't have to end violence against women..we just have to end violence, period, full stop.
Men are not always the perpatrator and women are not always the victim. Like everything else in life, it's a pretty mixed bag..
@@jonaswalvius6198 if abuse cases were proportionately balanced sure but it's not unfortunately, one cannot deny the fact, to do so would be ignorant