Op-Ed: Men Scared Of Working With Women Post-
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- Опубліковано 17 лют 2020
- Research suggests a surprisingly high percentage of male managers are afraid to work closely with women after #MeToo. Cultural historian Lynn Parramore and company leader Gene Marks talk about why these fears are unfounded and damaging - to both male and female workers.
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Getting in trouble for keeping distance from women is Far better than getting in trouble for sexual harassment
Agreed brother
Agreed. I don’t even open doors for women.
Not for long
@@gxhcbchchvfhbxsddvp96trg what you mean they are gonna make you talk to women😂 unlikely
Amen
#metoo has been the greatest recruiting tool for MGTOW.
metoo was like a nuclear bomb for mgtow
Amen
Man's speaking my language
And passport bros
@@JeSsE10mCcOy11 will pinay be like American women 10 years from now? Who knows! Take the risk! /s
I rather not be in the 2%,so don't fault me being extra careful.
That's much more than 2% the rest not even came out
2% is way too high of a risk for literally no reward. What is the reward for training a female instead of a male coworker.
it's not 2% it's 50% to 95%. don't let her fool you.
@@user-vr4ih6jg3n now that's 100% truth!
Absolutely true 90 percent of us don’t want to be that 2 % that’s what they are missing 🤣😂💯🤷🏽🤷🏽🤷🏽
Let's say there were a bowl of M&Ms and I told you that only 2% were poisoned. Would you eat any?
Screenshotting it. I LAUGHED SO HARD. Great Analogy friend!
@Kron Bomb OK. Not 100%.
But Even 60% Divorce Rate Still Means the Odds Are NOT in Your Favor. And Yes, We are talking about Pretty Niche stuff here Because Alot of people Never get married in the first place. The point is, would you take an unnecessary risk that could result in you Losing Nearly Everything you've worked too achieve?!
Even 0.01% ..i wouldnt eat it
NOPE!
true wisdom :)
One of the craziest ways to have your life ruined is by having a female colleague show interest in you and then you decline out of being professional. They really don't take rejection well.
Yes! THIS! Can confirm, this happened to me in 2015. She eventually made a false harrassment claim against me AFTER I reported her to my employers for stalking and harrassment by her. My employer didnt take me serious, but they took her serious.
Beware: It's double standards out there now gentlemen, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. I was stalked by a gross ( in size, looks and behaviour) woman in an office, and asked about my personal life but Ignored her- the least troublesome option- fortunately nothing came of it.
Well many women are not like that…….. and see the crazy trend.
The good ones will be happy that somebody wants to solve the crazy trend.
Rejecting isnt a crime, false acusations is
@@crl122486thats called democracy in west
Feminists have proven they can be dentrimental to men’s jobs and well being.
that is the problem with men.. always trying to look for a scapegoat like "Feminism" for female behavior and Female Nature.. smh, will never learn
@@EarthAngel504 is called self-preservation.
@@steinultra1785 What's self preservation?
@Shawn Huffman yea but the problem is, men can't seem to stop trying to scapegoat female nature as some infection that women catch called Feminism.
@Castennin Oh really,. feminism is a Belief. an ideology. so are you trying to convince myself and others, that it is an Ideology that is going to court and divorce raping men, taking away their kids and Locking men up for Not paying child support, Oh and sometimes Locking men up for OVER paying their child support. it happen, look it up.. So are you trying to tell me that it is The Belief, or Ideology that is doing this to men and not women???
I love how the misandrist just lets her toxic femininity breathe. Men getting falsely accused of sexual assault are literally by all over the place. But hey it's so small and negligible meaning it doesn't exist whatsoever.
She had a hard time gettin those words " falsely accused" out from her mouth, she does not belive it happens. Look at her eyes when she says that.
Brother it happens in every town on every street to some degree. It ruins these dudes. A woman didn't get what she want felt slighted she's going to use any tools she can to get it that dude. Accusers if found out should get the punishment the man would have gotten. On public display. If you accuse somebody and you're found out that you're lying you pay. Except there is no real punishment. Misdemeanor tops
Not based in reality? Seriously it's happened everywhere I've ever lived and I've seen it happen to countless men.
You can tell she doesn't believe what she's saying regarding the false accusations. She knows she's lying thru her teeth.
2%?! GTFOH
2% proven false this is a misspresentation
*At least 2-10%
Actually , the real percentage is between 40 to 60% ,if you lestin to Warren Farrel he explain how it works , the feminists made it that way because the were afraid that it would disencourage women to make an accusation if they know that there is a risk of being held accoutble. So in stead of saying the truth ,the chose to throw men under the bus ,and not labelling it as false accusation . When he ,dr Farrel who used to be a feminist ally,pointed that out ,they refused to give him a plateform in MSM becauze that would harm the left s base s voters that is mainly women.
Everybody knows deep down that the actual rate of false accusations is closer to 75% or higher. I would not be surprised if it was in the 90 percent.
their empathy for what amounts to mental health issue for the men is amazing. Men feeling stressed, and fear in the work place, and they could not care less. overwhelming number of workplace suicide are men, and their advice is just get over it.
exactly...even threatening men with criminal charges
@@craigime "Talk to me or you're going to jail!!!" This video is pathetic.
It's not about false accusations. It's about "he flirted with me once now i will ruin his life".
Thats true too. They can also subtlety use just the threat of accusation to gain power over a man. Its really scary! BUT there is a solution. Never being alone with a woman at work.
I've personally seen a man who was really funny and flirty get in trouble because an older woman thought he was after her but the girl he was really interested in was much younger, 19/20. She literally tried to destroy his life and they barely knew each other! The other bad case I saw was a coworker going through a breakup and he hooked up with a secretary. He pretty much ignored her after that and got back with his ex(they got married). The Secretary threw every accusation she could including rope. He had a three year court battle but his wife stayed by his side. In both cases the woman felt totally justified in their actions. One claimed she had to exaggerate because otherwise no one would believe her🧐🤔
Well she failed to mention that sexual harassments claims are almost always entirely based on testimony. Meaning that regardless of guilt, the accusation is more than enough to result in dire life ruining consequences for the accused. Funny this lady precludes that fact from her argument. Thus, mens refusal to be alone with women under any circumstances is a very rational and pragmatic response to the current situation.
Nothing funny about her leaving that little tidbit out of her diatribe at all. Refusing to close-order march with women is completely pragmatic and an absolutely correct, viable and understandable action to take, given the poisonous attitude of the vast majority of American women today- nay, ALL western women.
Society has not learned about the consequences of the Salem Witch Trials.
So the 2% is supposed to mean, "Don't worry - if you're accused, there's a 98% chance you're guilty and your career is over." We should all feel better now.
exactly!
Your life is pretty much over anyways if your accused. You’re guilty until you can prove your innocence with this..
lol my exact thoughts..
Society has not learned about the consequences of the Salem Witch Trials.
If a man is in a room with a woman for a few hours working and afterwards she accuses you of harassment let's say because of a misunderstanding or her lying the guy is done for. He did nothing but just the accusation will destroy him
Well if he doesn't touch her without consent or make inappropriate comments, the man will be fine. Just pretend like you're working with another man and just mind your own business. Men don't touch other men (except for a handshake) or make comments about their bodies. So just do the same in the presence of women. It's very easy.
@@MN-ol6ek : Ohh so u mean women can't lie or misunderstand something we don't mean?? The level of ur stupidity can be clearly understood by how u compared men with women..... No dude it's very different, if women ripped off her clothes and suddenly ran out of door screaming "help" everybody will take her side.... This won't happen with men.
@@MN-ol6ek : if you're a guy, you're the biggest simp I've came across ever. ...... if you're a girl.... Well then you are just another female who don't have any idea what she's talking about. You are the same kind of person who'll walk to a homeless person and say to him "it's simple, buy a house"
@@MN-ol6ek yea im sure he will be just fine, having to hire a lawyer and defend himself in court, have his reputation completely destroyed and possibly lose his job, but yea, he'll be just fine.
@@MN-ol6ek sounds like you need the brake lines clipped on your car. I used to do that to people all the time. Especially removing the lug nuts on the front tire. It was great watching someones tire fall off. I always got the last laugh 😂 that’s what you gotta do these days to get revenge. No legal issues to worry about!
If your in the 2% innocent collom it can destroy your life so yeah it's not as easy as it sounds.
And that 2% is a misleading statistic. The report was 2-8% are PROVEN false. If you add it up, I believe it’s about 65% of all accusations are provably false or possibly false. So it is without a doubt more than 2%
@@muscleman482 add what up?
Actually , the real percentage is between 40 to 60% ,if you lestin to Warren Farrel he explain how it works , the feminists made it that way because the were afraid that it would disencourage women to make an accusation if they know that there is a risk of being held accoutble. So in stead of saying the truth ,the chose to throw men under the bus ,and not labelling it as false accusation . When he ,dr Farrel who used to be a feminist ally,pointed that out ,they refused to give him a plateform in MSM becauze that would harm the left s base s voters that is mainly women.
His book ,the boy crisis should be a must in hight school,but the left won t allow it
@@muscleman482 most of the accusation are false and those innocent guys loose job,go to jail and declared as predator.thats life man.
Yep and you can bet 100% of that “2%” were instantly demonized by society.. even after they were considered innocent.
Never take advice from a woman about how to act around other women.
Just avoid them all.
To claim 2% is an outright lie. Sexual harassment is the one crime where the accuser is also judge and jury.
My chances of dying in a car crash are less than .02%, but I still wear a seat belt.
Exactly, if women insist on being mentored by men then they can foot the bill of a bodycam to record the interactions.
Your statistics are extremely questionable.
Yes, they are ;)
Love how....dimplomatic you phrase it. That's so nice.
Women don't like numbers and facts.
Actually , the real percentage is between 40 to 60% ,if you lestin to Warren Farrel he explain how it works , the feminists made it that way because the were afraid that it would disencourage women to make an accusation if they know that there is a risk of being held accoutble. So in stead of saying the truth ,the chose to throw men under the bus ,and not labelling it as false accusation . When he ,dr Farrel who used to be a feminist ally,pointed that out ,they refused to give him a plateform in MSM becauze that would harm the left s base s voters that is mainly women.
We must educate our Sons of the Goverment, and female blackmailing strategies.
Better still encourage them to enter male dominated industries such as construction.
More physical risk, but less risk of everything else happening.
Males must record their personal lives, and sorroundings for their personal protection of our non violent intent.
Thanks. I just got idea for epic science fiction novel.
(Sigh) Being lectured again!!? Ladies, this is what you wanted, you caused the damage, can't change your minds now. Oh, and by the way, 2% false accusations is way off, the number of false accusations is much much higher. Also, notice the subtle threat of it being "illegal" to avoid women in the workplace. Gawd!! They just won't stop!!
BRAVO ! You said everything !
it's 40%
I think its high time to fight fire with fire
Actually , the real percentage is between 40 to 60% ,if you lestin to Warren Farrel he explain how it works , the feminists made it that way because the were afraid that it would disencourage women to make an accusation if they know that there is a risk of being held accoutble. So in stead of saying the truth ,the chose to throw men under the bus ,and not labelling it as false accusation . When he ,dr Farrel who used to be a feminist ally,pointed that out ,they refused to give him a plateform in MSM becauze that would harm the left s base s voters that is mainly women.
Its more like 40%.A woman employeer have huge power over the monitoring manager.
I love how feminists sit there and claim that they are trying to help everyone when all of the policy they create so clearly favors women.
2% naaaaa more 99.9 % when shes in her period of false accusation
In any accusation there is a 50% chance of it being true or false.
Wow, men are afraid of being falsely accused and you people say they are panicking, should learn how to behave and that they are committing a crime.
Jesus, what a way to make things worse.
This video is beyond stupid. They completely missed the mark here. Good job guys!
😂👏👏👏😐
Just wow.
NBC news! Lol
I can definitely understand why this vid has over 1k dislikes.
It's Western -journalism- _propaganda,_ what did you expect?
Save yourself. Play it safe and don't even tempt fate by being alone with a woman you work with.
You can't force male managers to mentor female employees and it isn't discrimination to use the mike pence rule
God bless Mike pence and Billy Graham
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice ....
jack croff cant get fooled again!
you dumb if u get fooled again 10 toes everywhere
Fool me a 3rd time i deserve it
@@rickgrimes8274 third by the 1st time you better get some brains. you may not get a third chance
@@craigclermond8001 im no perfect entity but that applies to others, not me my friend. Life has taught me to learn from others mistakes.
Mgtow shield wall is up
That's the proof that woman really think that nothing is ever their fault 🤣
2% is just the ones where the guy could prove his innocence. What about the false accusations where the man couldn’t prove his innocence? It’s definitely higher than 2%.
It is 2% not proven innocent doesn't mean you were proven guilty
@@be6213 yeah......in court. In the court of public opinion men are automatically guilty by accusation only, no proof necessary. You may not go to jail, but you can still have you're reputation ruined, lose your job, etc.
Most men wouldn’t even speak to a woman at work, let alone ask them out. I’d rather be single and keep my job than get #MeToo’d.
Its all about your perception, a Lady told me that once😂😂
@@genocidejoeBut bro, you know the real rules of engagement - "If they find you hot, it is flirting! If they find you ugly, it is harrassment!" 🤣🤣🤣
@@mrconfusion87 🤣😂😭
I'm an employer of my (and another person's) company, and we both specifically avoid hiring women for numerous reasons, one of them being the false accusations of sexual harassments. Yes, we accept applications from women due to legal reasons, but we haven't hired even one female employee in the 11 years the company ran. It's just not worth it, unless the female applicant has some really impressive resume (they don't, since high level women don't apply to small companies like mine).
Love the shaming language Wymyn insist on using. Man "scared". No actually Men are SMART for avoiding them.
Keep them away from me.
#NOTME
Sure, I trust the FBI, just about as much as I trust NBC.........so long.
The problem with citing FBI data is that it keeps track of accusations which go through the legal system. They aren't keeping track of false statements in HR complaints.
"The problem with citing FBI data"
No she claimed the FBI said something. Citing includes a source, which BTW is impossible because the FBI never said that.
my brother who works in a small IT company in NC told me he is having trouble finding a gf, so I told why not ask one of your coworkers out, and he told me he would never do that because one of his male coworkers asked a female coworker out, she causally told him that she is not interested and he replied ok and never talked about that again, a week later he receives a mail from hr that he is being fired for making sexual advances at workplace... ofcourse men are terrified of women, that guy drives for doordash now as he was unable to find work anywhere else
The workplace, formerly an excellent place where men and women of similar interests could meet up and maybe eventually get married and have children, is now strictly off-limits. Same with college. The risks for men are too high.
I want a law that gives men the right to wear a body cam at work or to force employers to install video and audio recordin equipment in every work space except the bathroom obviously.
Don’t open the can of worms, just don’t hire them and say they lack the business experience
And they will lack the exp after a few decades haha 😄 😆 🤣
Notice that they are not citing any law against refusing to be friendly to women colleagues?
As an outsider and having seen how the FBI at work the past four years. I would only trust them to give me the correct time, twice a day, with a broken clock!
🤣🤭💯😂
wow... just wow...
people are worried. and we should blame them for being worried eh?
The point is that 2% of false allegations is very high. You do not want to be the one guy that has to deal with the 50th woman that has the power to destroy your life. You’ll be guilty until you can prove to be innocent. You cannot defend yourself and be fired. Stay safe. Never have meetings with only one woman. Always have witnesses.
It’s the fact that man don’t want their behavior to be taken as flirting or harassment simply by talking to you how they would talk to any other friend, it seems like a lot of women especially in todays society feel men are always trying to “get with them” but that’s not always the case. Also if something was to happen and she falsely accused you it’s her word against yours and NOBODY is believing what you say over a women especially now so men just avoid interaction altogether.
Men are afraid that they are going to be falsely accused of inappropriate behavior after women falsely accuse men of inappropriate behavior? I'm SHOCKED! SHOCKED I say!
Feminists the greatest recruiting tool for MGTOW.
One false accusation is one false accusation too many.
Men keep protecting your self. Cameras / witnesses
so fear is illegal now? we know that any accusation will be unconditionally believed and your life will be destroyed.
Did all men hear that? Its illegal to avoid women. Any tickets left for flight to Mars, I'm going home.
That woman just lied. False Sexual assault claims may be at 2%,; but sexual assault and sexual harassment are not the same thing. Women claim ANYTHING as harassment...
what is the benefit of mentoring a woman for me , compared to the risk ?
Its the same as marrying them!
Male managers should not have 1-1s with women PERIOD.
@@TheJeremyseattle Yeah. but until that happens, I would exercise caution
Okay, say I'm a man, now you are telling me that almost all accusations of sexual impropriety against men are true (98%)
So I should have no reason to worry about interacting with women, after all, why would any woman want to hurt me?
This is truly chilling.
This is completely not true because as a 15 year old I was accused and it broke my world and how I saw it and as a male this is one of the many things why I have trust issues at a young age.
Sorry that happened to you bro, especially at that young an age!
Sorry to hear that!
When I was 19 I had a woman claim I was flirting with her at work- i legit wasn’t attracted to her and wasn’t flirting what so ever
I was spoken to by HR but luckily got to keep my job.. but it did serve as a lesson that I’ve kept with me to this day
Women are not to be trusted- whether at work or romantically
“Breaking the law.”?
Seriously, GFY.
she is more threatening calling out laws and forbidding men to say no...
Ok. I've been hearing alot about the work environment. But what I haven't heard about is the damage in every other area of life. And I have only heard about "white males in power." But what about your average middle class men who do have moral compasses who have been taught to respect women but they fear that one mistake and they'll be stripped of everything? You can't be so laser focused on a crusade that you don't pay attention to who gets hurt in the process. And don't even get me started on the dilemmas that BLACK men face. Me Too has done many good, and I support women demanding to be put on the same platform. But the the movement has single-categorized everybody. There is a difference between those that feel they're entitled, invincible, & untouchable and those that are human beings and have errors. They shouldn't suffer. We can't overlook the damages that Me Too caused.
So the best solution is have companies with only females and companies with only males and let see which company can last more than 1 week
That WAS funny ))
Know what else is illegal? Making a false accusation. Didn't stop these harridans, now did it?
for the sake of argument, even if there are only 2% false allegations, that 1 in 50 chance will nuke a guy's career and forever smear his reputation. you would never jump out of an airplane if there was a 1 in 50 possibility the parachute would not open.
The 2% is proven false legally. the amount of proven true accusations is also low, yet we assume many unproven accusations must be true. If that's the case then obviously many acussations exist which cant be proven false which must also be false
I'm not afraid to work with women because Im unprofessional. I am afraid because the accusation is all it takes.
mgtow around the world is holding the line
Can someone explain why so many people disliked this?
Edit: Maybe because these people are undermining the power of women who can easily use this power to blackmail men or ruin their life?
Nate Parker of "Birth of a nation" was a man that was vindicated 15 years before the movie came out. He was found not guilty and proven innocent. So interesting that that case was brought up right before the release of birth of a nation just as his career was jump starting. They wanted him to apologize or have sympathy for the victim that falsely accused him. He did not have to show remorse for something that was traumatizing for him and almost destroyed him. The end result? He no longer in Hollywood. No studio will touch him. Stay away from women in the work place.
And also stay away from your classmates because there are Wanetta Gibsons of the world, who falsely accused Brian Banks of sexual assault. At 15 years old, Wanetta Gibson accused her former schoolmate Brian Banks, a former American football player. Brian was arrested, spent close to six years imprisoned and five years on parole. Wanetta Gibson, even after a recorded confession of her lie, didn't even go outside of a prison!
It is their choices whether men will mentor women or not. You can't say that this is crime or violation. All women betray men when their needs are fulfilled by men like mentoring.
I have a bowl with 100 skittles. 2 are poisoned. Would you eat the whole bowl? Nope. Not a chance.
Nope! We are tired of being accused and having lives ruined over baseless accusations.
The Bret Cavanaugh case minimized the #metoo movement!
The Cavanaugh situation was different. It may have been true, it may have been not true. It happened 30 years ago & they were drunk teenagers. In her mind its one thing, in his mind its something else.
Is fear a punishable offence?
It’s not backlash it’s self preservation ya women did it to yourselves.
Organization isn't going to help men, when someone falsely accused...
My employer refuses to hire female employees.
I love working in this environment
Yeah, I'd love to :)
I wish I could find a place like that.
@@TheJeremyseattle
Keeps them out of my hair. Productivity is up by 20%
If you are a woman or a man who wants a relationship with somebody from work you already know instead of dating strangers you don't know you are out of luck because trying in even the vaguest of ways is prohibited.
2:02 - men are even get punished now for being afraid. This woman is insane.
Yeah lady? What about mens safety at the workplace?
So you will still be overreacting when your in jail for 10 yrs for a crime, without evidence.
"There is a clear line" proceeds not to talk about where this line is precisley. And feminist won't ever define it because that would mean there would be gender roles.
look at the like to dislike ratio.... all I can do is laugh at these clowns.
yeah, cool, have fun to be those 2%. Also it's 2% proven to be false. And you know, how can check whether author is sincere or just want to push their agenda? music and all the stuff. you dont need to use this "wow, so disturbing music", if you really want just give arguments.
Actually , the real percentage is between 40 to 60% ,if you lestin to Warren Farrel he explain how it works , the feminists made it that way because the were afraid that it would disencourage women to make an accusation if they know that there is a risk of being held accoutble. So in stead of saying the truth ,the chose to throw men under the bus ,and not labelling it as false accusation . When he ,dr Farrel who used to be a feminist ally,pointed that out ,they refused to give him a plateform in MSM becauze that would harm the left s base s voters that is mainly women.
How would FBI know which accusations are false?they just arrest and out 2% out of nowhere without proof
21000 views, 118 likes, now you know the dislike count. And by the way 2% of 1 billion is 20 million.
A simple gaze can make her 'uncomfortable'....and make you lose your job
Yup! And we all know the name of the game - "If she finds you hot, it is flirting! If she finds you ugly, it is harassment!" 🤣🤣🤣
I don't think men and women are made to work together. Traditionally, men worked with men and vice versa. Go to the oilfield and it's all men and there are never many issues. As a maintenance technician at a hotel, I found that the dynamic with so many women around became a problem for me with advances, drama and jealousy. This led me to seek jobs far away from an office. I prefer working with men only or solo as the drama is almost nothing. No need to tip toe around people's insecurities or feelings in those environments. Risk of getting into legal trouble is almost nothing as well.
Anytime there's music in the background..........you know you're being lied to
2% of false accusations does not look that bad until you fall in that category
Males must defend their Nature.
I know this will happen, all men should be respectful and careful.
Whatever happened to "strong independent women" trope?
Males must abandon Marriage
Anyone who doesn't take steps to mitigate risk is just asking for trouble. If you let your guard down and make any sort of a comment outside the strict bounds of work related topics it will come back to harm you eventually. Women hold grudges, they look for lapses, they look for anything that might serve as a weapon they can use maybe not today but when it works to their best advantage. Do not take a meeting one on one with a woman. Never close the door when meeting with a woman. Never travel with a woman. Never dine alone with a woman. Dating is dating and work is work. Never confuse the two or assume that a woman can be trusted not to screw you over if it advances her interests. Personal experience talking here.
This women is liar , she should put on jail for false video
Why do Women need to be mentored by Men Where are the feminists
They're busy being activist parasites.
I would be! Man Hating lesbians everywhere...
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153 likes
*1816* dislikes
Heh 😎
2% x 15. I almost got fired for not doing an extra work for one of my female co worker.
Interact with women in your workplaces only when needed. Otherwise you're better off avoiding them. After work, don't even think about hanging out. If you need to work late, make sure a camera is recording. You'll thank me later.
I just don't want to be in the 2% , is that too hard to accept?
2% of false r*pe accusations is already too much . a friend of mine got falsely accused of that years ago. it has traumatized him to this day . i don't like the way this woman is downplaying it , not to mention the veiled threat against already anxious people that they may face the law . my advice , when you start your company , pick in advance your entire staff , this way you cannot be blackmailed to hire anyone you don't want to hire /
@OutsiderSoul i already suspected that .
I don't even look at woman anymore. Lately there's nothing much too look at and nothing upstairs either. I rather ignore this little group all together.