Babylon 5 | S5E22 - Sleeping in Light | Reaction
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The main note on the script for Christopher Franke for the score was, "Break our hearts." And he did a fantastic job.
Even Joe struggles watching the finale. In his commentary you can hear his voice crack.
When I hear this score, I instantly break into tears. It's not fair that this music has such control over my emotions.
There is one section of the soundtrack that is reminiscient of Samual Barber's Adagio For Strings (not that its a bad thing).
@@davidblauyoutube same here, that scene in the hall gets me every time
@@davidblauyoutube And that's how good Babylon 5 was as a whole. As I said to Medusa several times, I've never suffered (and cried) so much watching a SciFi series before or since but that shows how amazing the screenplay is and how much the characters matter to you. Without doubt it's my favourite SciFi series of all time.
The most heartbreaking moment is the final elevator scene with everyone when B5 is decommissioned. Everyone in that elevator, with the exception of Claudia Christian, has gone beyond the Rim.
This gave my eyes an allergic reaction... my eyes broke out in tears
@@daleholliday2294 Aw! Mine too 🥰 It's ironic but actually it's actually Claudia Christian who was the alcoholic in real life rather than Michael Doyle (RIP and sadly missed). Claudia created her own company called the C Three Foundation to tackle alcoholism. Of course she was also the Fairy Godmother in Shrek 2 which was an awesome voice part to play!
@@joannecunliffe8067 Begging your pardon, but Jennifer Saunders was the Fairy Godmother in Shrek 2. Claudia voiced the part in the video games.
@@kivimik Oops (*blush*) my bad and as a Brit I'm a big Jennifer Saunders fan. She was in "Shrek 2: The Video Game" as the Fairy Godmother, not the film of course (in 2004 see IMDB).
These last three episodes get harder each time I rewatch.
It didn't make the cut but I want to give a shout out to Vir showing his true colors yet again. He doesn't just take the letter from or even thank the ranger. Instead he pauses and says a heartfelt "I'm sorry", acknowledging the ranger's own humanity and deep feelings about what is happening with Sheridan, rather than treating the ranger as just a messenger. Between this ranger scene, and Vir's touching Londo story during the dinner, actor Stephen Furst really brought his A game to the series finale.
His story of hearing the pak ma'ra singing is also heartfelt too.
@@johnsmith8906 Indeed. Including the increased self-confidence he has after so many years of people actually listening to him, even though they have to since he's emperor.
The role of Vir was the best acting of Stephen Furst's career.
@@txlyons2937 For a lot of the actors on this show, including guest stars, you can say the same.
Vir is the kind of person who could take Erskine's serum and not be corrupted by it. He's got a dark streak (as we see when he waves at Morden's head on a pike), but it's never unjust, never cruel, never self-serving. Morden's actions led to millions of deaths just among the Centauri and the Narn, and billions more across the galaxy, and he did it all with a smile. He deserved what he got. Vir takes no joy in death or suffering, but he's still one to be glad to see justice served.
Vir could've been Captain Centauri.
It's been 25 years and it still gets me
Me too! The only time a story got me this emotional is when I finished reading Lord of the Rings, and Frodo's departure from the Grey Havens. The entire show really did lead to that last episode, JMS did a masterful job!
It will always get us..
I dare say this is the best series finale ever. I cannot think of any other shows finale that comes even close to it.
😉 I've been saying the same for 25 years. And still say it today.
I think TNG's All Good Things comes close.
I agree, but I think the finale of Angel comes close.
@@thebkg me too
Probably the final episode of 'Blake's 7'...but for different reasons... 🙂
It was fitting that Joe got to turn out the lights, ending the show on his terms. This episode was filmed at the end of season 4, when they didn’t know they got a season 5 which explains why Susan is there when Claudia had left.
This reaction series was another dream given form, a chance for us to relive something we loved through the eyes of a true believer. Thank You 🙏
It's also why the Season 4 finale didn't have Susan. It was filmed as the first episode of Season 5.
"was another dream given form"
Nice. :)
As I remember, the producers shot two endings to the series, because of the unpredictability of the production. This was the second one. The first one was done before TNT picked up the series. It had G'kar and Mollari having one last fight, and something about Mollari facing a dark future, or death, because of a parasitic alien invader that was controlling the minds of his race, leading them to destruction. I remember the production value of the episode was a bit rough. Maybe it wasn't aired at the time, because TNT revived the series? I remember seeing it on TNT's rerun of the first four seasons, in sequence. This "final" episode gave the series a pretty dark ending, not uplifting like this.
That part of the timeline was tossed aside (as I remember), once TNT picked up the series, and gave it another season.
Well well.. you made it. Babylon 5 .. an criminally underrated masterpiece and one, if not the best SF Series ever made. Welcome to the Fandom! :)
Only with the entirety of THE EXPANSE now done and dusted can we say there is FINALLY a worthy successpr to take on the B5 mantle. The two guys that make up "James S.A. COrey" are both unapologetic about being massively inspired by B5.
B5 is the Best ❤…. Hopefully no remake but some new in the universe…
Someday watch it again, some scenes will have additional meaning. You see he had it all planned out so so knew what clues to drop. Her only had to listen to the characters speak and write it down. I bet he still sometimes hears G'Kar talking.
In the end, the vision of the destruction of Babylon 5 that Sinclair was given in Season 1 came true... just not in the way he (or any of the fans) thought it would!
Nobody predicted that JMS would shut off the lights, but then be a forgotten lower deck worker left behind by the stars as they took the elevator to the shuttle and then left the station in a grand fashion.
I’ve pointed out the same thing. Babylon 5 was always going to be destroyed at some point - the question was when, and why. JMS made a comment in one of his online posts: “‘The King died, and then the Queen died,’ is not a story. ‘The King died, and then the Queen died of grief,’ is a story.”
Or Joe at the time either. The arc of everything was altered when O'Hare had to leave the show. I'd love to see how the OG plan would have played out, but I love what we got.
If I could change one thing, It would be to replace the CGI for the Vision and have the explosion inverted, so it matches the finale. That way there is even more symmetry. The explosion did happen. There was a great war. There was much death. But B5 was not destroyed because it failed, but because it succeeded.
Also, I remember being on the forums and everyone pushing JMS to make a cameo. He kept saying that he already knew where he would put in his cameo, he did not need help. Of course, he would not tell, but everyone tried to guess. It was still early in Season 3. It was not until the end, that we realized he that he had hinted all along, especially when the show was having troubles and he would remind people that he would be there until they made him turn the lights out.
@Michael Halbrook The early, ten year arc would've seen Babylon 5 destroyed by the Minbari warrior caste in Year 5. They'd have launched a coup d'etat after finding out the reason for the surrender at the Line and reignited hostilities with Earth. Sheridan, Delenn and their remaining allies would then travel back in time to steal Babylon 4, for it to become their new mobile base of operations to fight the Shadows, being rechristened Babylon Prime in the process.
Medusa at the start "I hope this doesn't break my heart" ❤It's been nearly 25 years since this first aired and Sleeping In Light still reduces this 50-year-old man to tears every time. It's been a great experience being on this B5 journey with you, your reactions are amazing and you've done a fantastic job. So thank you 😊
I think Delenn and John is the best love story I've ever seen on TV.
Yes.....i not only agree, i literally was romantic to my wife because of this show
Even better than... Twilight?
(couldn't help myself...)
@@asbjrnfossmo1589 Pinky and The Brain is a better love story than Twilight!! 😆🤪
They are ❤…
They are the beating heart of B5
Christopher Franke’s music is a huge part of what made B5 such a good show.
Also, going into this episode without tissues? Brave.
Foolish, really. 😉 But, then again, most of us knew why it was foolish as soon as she said it. Medusa was overly optimistic that she could handle it without tissues. She didn't know what was coming. We did. (Of course, we didn't know the first time either, so...)
The music from Chris Franke is Epic
The bit where John walks away fom Delenn for the last time always gets me
As designed
Your reviews of B5 have been a treat to watch. From the first episode I was thinking "Oh, wait till she gets to Sleeping in Light". Thank you for your care and attention in watching this show; it's one for the ages.
Susan was in this because it was filmed at the end of season 4 as a possible series finale. When they got season 5 approved they put it away and made a new season 4 ending, saving this for the end of S5.
From the first episode I was thinking "Oh, wait till she gets to Sleeping in Light." - Me, too. Sleeping In Light hits you like a ton of bricks, no matter how many times you've seen it. I knew that it would just crush her, but in a good way. Joe wanted this kind of reaction when he wrote it, and he achieved everything he set out to achieve with this episode. Yeah, Joe, "Mission Accomplished," indeed.
@@erikrupp692...also Zach saying to John we did everything we set out to do
That was a middle finger to the critics and suits that said the audience would never be there for it
At a science fiction convention in 1987, during a fan Q&A session, Joe Straczynski was asked "So how does it all end?" With a straight face, he looked at the audience, smiled, and said, "It ends with me putting all the chairs up on the tables, turning out the lights, and walking out the door."
And we all thought he was being poetic.
I don't doubt the anecdote, but I do think you've got the date wrong, since B5 didn't start airing until 1993. In 1987 no one had heard of it nor would have cared.
@@moreau1755 That convention suffered the same timey wimey warping as Babylon 4. It also explains why JMS is so often credited with writing a consistent story developed over years. After that convention he already knew what was going to happen, he just had to flesh out the scripts.
@@moreau1755 Yeah, the movie was not out yet, I had (still have on a shelf) am Amiga 1000 so we were aware the movie was being made since the CG started on one.
Babylon 5: The Gathering is the test pilot movie of the science fiction television series Babylon 5, aired on February 22, 1993.
That moment after Jon and Delenns final embrace.
The look in Delenns eyes gets me every time.
Too underrated as an actress
@@philgiglio7922 Not sure why she did not much more than Lost. (oh F! she has joined Andreas, damn Google)
I'm a crusty old man but this episode broke me back when it first aired and every time since.
Re: John going back to Coriana 6
He went back there because he was given that message from Kosh "When the long night comes, return to the end of the beginning." via Lockley in the Day of the Dead episode, if you remember John gave a little nod of his head as he figured out what it meant.
This episode was/is very poignant, perhaps too much so, I've found myself avoiding it when I watch the series again as it triggers my existential dread.
Joe admits he stole this story for the actual true story from the Bible
I feel that Kosh knew about Sheridan's Dad and the Sunday trips...
Emperor Turhan: "How will it end?"
Kosh: "In fire."
Almost literally the last scene in the show is B5 blowing up.
A proper ending! I remember watching this episode with a bunch of my friends back in high school. We genuinely all cried during this episode. I distinctly remember my mother walking in the room and not having a CLUE what was going on 😂 Beautiful ending to an incredible series. And Christopher Franke’s music during the decommissioning ceremony is perfection! Having Joe flip the switch for the last time, added a level of beauty and heartbreak imo.
"I hope I don't cry a lot, because I don't have any tissues anymore."
*episode starts*
*cries immediately*
The feeling is mutual.
"To absent friends, in memory still bright." That's one of the phrases you'll recognize a B5 fan from.
If you're going to watch a video from one of the younger conventions - say the last ten years or so - you'll hear the cast use that phrase frequently, too. For their friends who have gone beyond the rim. So much from this episode bled into reality. And every time another goes, it becomes a little harder to watch.
And the beauty is one doesn’t even need to know the show, to understand the meaning of the words and how wonderfully appropriate they are.
The ONLY Cure For The "Babylon Blues"..... Is To Watch The Series Again; See Things You Probably Missed The First Time Around..... And So It Begins! . To See Once Again All Those Who We Have Missed...
The moment that broke me was when John puts his hand on Delenns shoulder as they say goodbye and all the poise evaporates in a moment of utter grief and resignation. Such a beautiful moment wonderfully acted by Bruce and Mira. 😢
I cry every single time I watch this episode. I'm so glad you shared this journey with us. It's wonderful to see new fans and to freshen my own appreciation and love of the show.
My mother is the one who introduced me to this show. She even kept a book of quotes that she collected, many of which came from B5, which I still have and read from time to time. She died of cancer in 2008, and I will always associate B5 with her, especially Sleeping With Light.
I was in late high school/early college when this aired and is something I associate with my father - he recorded each eposide for me on VHS because I was often working at night (he also watched them). He labeled each tape with the episodes included too. He passed in 2000 and I still remember he thought Kosh looked like the top of the bottle of air freshener my mom kept in the bathroom! Far less moving than your story, but still brings a smile.
I always liked Lorien's simple quotes to John: "I caught you before", "We will wait for you...", "We were waiting for you..."
So many tear-jerk moments in this episode but the one that gets me EVERY time is when Straczynski himself takes a long, last look at the station, and then pulls the power.
Yeah, imagine the first time, I was yelling "that is Joe!" I had met him years before.
In the DVD commentary, JMS said the line he was most proud of writing was when Sheridan tells Delenn she is 'the brightest star in my sky"
Babylon 5 has major JRR Tolkien inspiration/tribute, John is Beren/Aragorn and Delenn is Luthien/Arwen. So when John calls Delenn his Silmaril and Delenn tell's John he's her Telperion and Laurelin... can't help but cry every time. And Lorien literally named after a Valar, and going into the West... hot damn.
"Look at that, the sun's coming up."
Gets me every time. Always will.
This has been a wonderful journey, thank you for sharing this with us.
I lost count how many times i've rewatched this series, and seeing it from the perspective of a UA-camr made me relive these amazing moments in the show. truly one of the finest written story in modern television. this show never had an easy going, it had a production difficulties like any other show but it never wavered thanks to the show runner.
When I was a teenager during broadcast, I remember my sisters walking in on me watching Babylon 5 several times and taking the piss out of my hysterical crying. If my sisters are allowed to cry for three days almost continuously after watching Little Women, I as a teenage boy had full permission to bawl my eyes out from Babylon 5.
To be fair I took the piss out of them for Little Women, so fair is fair. They also made me sit through Poldark but refused to watch Babylon 5.
My brother always told me B5 and Star trek were trash until one of his friend like it. Then he tried to tell me about the show and I said you told me it trash I don't want to here it.
Oh no, I forgot that this was coming out today. I didn't buy enough tissues... Damn it, oh well, I guess it's time... The end of Babylon 5 :(
I do not know how many times I've rewatched this episode, but I cry every time. Even now, seeing B5 blowing up, I can't hold back my tears.
You're not alone in that.
That technician shutting down the station at the end... that was JMS. And now we know who was on that shuttle that left Babylon 5 right before it exploded, fulfilling Lady Ladira's prophecy from all the way back in season 1's "Signs and Portents.".
"It [Sleeping In Light] was everything it needed to be." --- J. Michael Straczynski
Yes, that last scene with Delenn gets to me too - every time I see it.
B5 was the main reason I subscribed to your channel. I agree with you that it is simply the finest Sci Fi show ever. Sleeping in Light broke me the first time I watched it years ago, and broke me again tonight. Thank you so very much for allowing me to re-live it through your eyes.
The whole series is just a masterclass in writing, story telling, acting and the perfectly scored music.
Also like to add that at 8:52 you can see the fear in Delenns eyes that after this moment he won't be there. You can see the loss in her face.
Mira Furlan, an astonishing actress and Delenn, what a character and everything a strong female character should be.
That's what the script books are, a master class in writing and how to produce a TV series
Thanks again for keeping Babylon 5 alive for another generation to enjoy. I can't believe that we've reached the final episode. A spectacular ending for an awesome series. I just can't understand why Babylon 5 didn't get the recognition it really, truly deserved. Again, thanks for sharing your journey and B5 experience with us.
Anyone else here afraid to watch Babylon 5: The Road Home. How can it hold up?
John went to Coriana because in "Day of the Dead" Zoe gave Lochley a message from Kosh for John..."When the long night comes, return to the end of the beginning." There is nothing that I can say that has not been said by all the other comments, so I will say 'See you on the other side of the Gate!'
While he had that message, I always had the impression that he simply knew that was where he needed to go. He didn't leave for B5 because he was told to, but because he knew he was supposed to. He still carried a little of Lorien and like Lyta, echoes of Kosh that had become part of his identity.
Thank you so much for this watch-through! It's been a treat.
Pre-episode. I rewatch this episode every time another cast member passes beyond the rim. If you don't cry during this episode i'll be very much surprised. There are at least 6 points i can think of that will break you.
Post-episode. Glad you recognized JMS, him turning off the lights makes it so mean much more than if it had been anybody else. Even after watching this finale many times over the decades it still gets me every single time. There has never been a better final episode to a show ever made.
I always cry when I watch this. In the years since I've originally watched Babylon 5, you reactions fueled the spark that I had from back then. Watching you feel, and laugh, and cry, get excited, get emotional, is the nearest thing to getting to watch it for the first time. Thank you for that.
The bit that got me the most way back on first run was watching JMS turn off the power and start the destruct sequence! that brought the tears.
This is the B5 episode I've seen the most often. I was terrible at avoiding spoilers and knew much of what would happen, but on my first watch I was still in tears a minute into it. I watched it on the last Saturday evening of my summer break that year... and then, for the entire following academic year, I saw it every Saturday evening. Mildly obsessed, to put it lightly. At one point I could speak along with the entire episode.
I mentioned last episode that B5 taught me to say goodbye. When I visited my dying grandma, I said good night to her in the end, not goodbye. (Of course, this is a callback to Minbari not having a word for goodbye.) And the evening of the day she passed, I turned on this episode because it helped me process. B5 taught me to grieve, too.
It was a privilege to see someone cry like I did when I saw the series for the first time decades ago. Decades ago...
If you’ve watched all of Babylon 5 and you don’t ugly cry during this episode, you’re not human.
No television show has ever brought me to genuine tears.
Except that one.
Damn. Even just watching your edited viewing here, not even having rewatched the series, it still got real damn dusty in the living room and had me reaching for my shirt sleeves to dry my eyes.
At the end, when they are leaving B5 right before decommissioning it, the group steps into the lift. It hit me in the gut when I realized that, out of that entire lift, Claudia is the ONLY one who is still alive. =(
"The One is a fan of the post." I love this quote! 😂 Put it on a tee-shirt and see if it sells. 😊
On a more serious note, I think it was JMS who said that John and Delenn were the Arthur and Guinevere of Babylon 5. I loved that final, medieval imagery of them as Delenn watched the sun come up. Truly moving.
Thank you for your reaction. It was a joy and delight to experience this show with you. Beautiful and thoughtful and deeply moving.
Everybody fells a tear(or buckets of them) experiencing Sleeping in Light 🖤
This is the one Sc-Fi show whose finale has me in tears every time I watch it and I'm stunned that it doesn't get the attention it deserves. A perfect ending for such an amazing series
Babylon 5 was the most mature and masterful sci-fi series ever made. It truly was and still is ahead of its time.
I still gets emotional thinking of this episode... Best show ever despite its flaws. Thank you for reacting to the show, nowadays you could almost call it a hidden gem in TV.
If it is any kind of consolation to you, the short clips you were showing, were not short enough for me to keep dry eyes. For me it starts reliably like clockwork at the words to absent friends, in memory still bright”. It got me on first airing, and on any rewatch. Your reaction to thus could not have been a surprise to anybody joining your journey here, and knowing the show. The score also killed everybody.
I would also like to express my deep felt gratitude, to be able to see my favorite show, fresh through your eyes, even making me appreciate how much better than I remembered season 5 was. This was a beautiful journey, and thank you for sharing it with me.
This is episode was one of the few times I've watched anything and cried.
Even watching your reaction the tears were flowing.
This is how a show should be ended.
The respect the showrunners have for the characters; is something you simply don't get these days.
😭😭😭
It's been an absolute pleasure watching one of my favorite series' wiith you.
Thank you for the amazing watching of this series. This finale hits like a ton of bricks and was done just perfectly.
That scene at the end with Delenn on the bench will forever get me.
I found your channel when I was looking up stuff due to the animated B5 movie coming out and thought I would watch a few reactions to big episodes but ended up watching your entire playlist. You've honestly got the best B5 reactions/commentaries out there.
I've seen the finale hundreds of times.
I cry ever single time when the station explodes.
Truth be told, this is one of the best endings to a series I have ever seen. and my reaction was very similar. the sheer amount of cinematic geniusness in this serious is beyond me. the ending is SO incredibly fitting and deserved.. it's incredible. The series is, the actors are (and some, were).. the music was. everything fitted like a glove. We will never see such a series again, sadly.
Christopher Framke was given the instruction, "Break our hearts" and darn if he didn't succeed.
I have loved your reactions from start to finish. That this story can provoke such emotions from someone 25 years after it was made is a testament to the great writing, great performances and dedicated production team. Awesome to see you commit to it so wholeheartedly ❤
Been waiting for this! It totally broke me ... does every time I watch it 😢
Same here (Typing with tears rolling down my cheeks).
The whole final conversation is how the minbari say goodbye. Remember Delenn saying that all Minbari partings hold the possibility of meeting again in another life, that there is No word for goodbye in any of their 3 languages
"I'm going in without tissues" - big mistake. BIG mistake.
5 seconds in, Medusa is already crying. Am I a sick person for liking her crying? Something is wrong with me!
On a serious note, on behalf of all B5 fans, thank you for making us relive these emotions. It was like watching the series for the first time.
Hey, Lucille Ball made crying funny. Lighten up on yourself.
Thank you for letting us join you in your journey.
I was a wreck for two days after SiL was broadcast because they blew up my station.
Hey...it's Sunday... Time for a drive with Medusa Cascade on this special day... 😉🥲
Medusa: "I hope I don't get my heartbroken."
All of us: Yeah, that's gonna happen....in about 19 seconds... Hope you took the tissue warning to heart.
I've cried twice since age 18. Both times were Sleeping in Light.
I'm over 40 years old... I rewatch this series (or listen to it since its practically memorized) on average every 2 years... this finel episode gets me every time... I still get a bit teary eyed. It's been a joy to see someone go through the journey that was this show and to see them enjoy it as much as I did.
So glad I got to enjoy Babylon 5 again through these reactions. It's absolutely my favourite scifi and especially the ending has always stuck with me.
Even after all these years, this episode makes this old combat veteran shed some tears.
You reaction mirrored mine when I first saw this episode long ago. Am still watching your previous reactions but I skipped ahead to this one because of the intensity of your passion for B5.
Your tears brought out mine.
We live for the one, we die for the One, sister!
Anyone who never cried for a fictional character has never loved one. B5 was unique, because it was the first of the great serials. Soapies kept going forever. Most shows end with a typical episode, and never come back for another season. B5 was designed to tell a complete story in a fixed time, and it did so very well. The whole series was building to this goodbye.
There are so many wonderful shows out there that just fall flat on the ending. I can think of very few shows that I think had great endings; plenty of good, or OK endings, some "what the hell were you thinking" endings, but few that were just "wow!" The idea that a show has to go out with a bang, a big, complex, exciting adventure to finish out the run is just a flawed idea as this episode demonstrates admirably. It is just about saying "goodbye". That's it. The result is beautiful, and yes, Christopher Franke absolutely nails it right through to the end of the credits.
In 'Day of the Dead,' Zoe (Lochley's friend) had a message for Sheridan from Kosh: "When the long night comes, return to the end of the beginning." This was apparently Vorlon for "Go to Coriana when when your time is up."
Also: "I'm going in without tissues." 5 seconds into the episode "Why didn't I bring the tissues?"
Fun little detail about Zack: Sometime after 2263 his right leg was injured and replaced with a prosthetic.
It never fit right...
It was really good how Marcus got a mention in the end credits. The music for this episode always gets me :(
It has been a pleasure and a privilege watching you go on n this journey through the greatest television story ever created…it was like watching it again for the first time, with you going through the same emotional journey and connection to the story and characters as I did years ago when it first aired…you are an absolute treasure and now a key part of the B5 community…from all of us, I just wanted to say thank you x x x
"I'm going in .. without tissues". Bold of you. ;) It took me two weeks to watch this because I knew it was going to be a tear jerker for us both. I still remember the day I watched it when it aired. I wept. Openly. I still cry every time, and I've tried to make it a ritual that every time I moved to a new place, I had B5 on TV in the background while I unpacked, and of course, have to finish the series out later. I still cry, and I knew this would be no different, as I've cried along with you in your watching of the show. This remains one of the best sci fi shows ever, IMO, and I don't know if there will ever be anything to top it for a long, long while. Especially this finale. B5 touched my soul, and has influenced my writing and my life in general. Thank you for letting us watch it along with you. This was a fantastic journey.
The dinner and toasting the people who have passed gets me, every. damn. time.
IMO the greatest TV finale (and series) ever made.
For a long time it seemed that the line 'the last of the Babylon stations, there would never be another' was prophetic IRL. Hopefully the forthcoming animation is well received and there will be more Babylon 5.
Thank you for your fantastic reactions.
This episode ripped out my heart now just as much as it did then. It's been a genuine pleasure watching you discover the series after all these years. Babylon 5 was one of the best series ever put to screen. Everything about it was exceptional.
Thanks for reacting to this series. Really enjoyed it. If you ever did a rewatch series, I think you'd find it quite interesting how much of the story was seeded early without you realizing it the first time through. I'd certainly tune in for that.
"Some of the Minibari believe he will come back again, but I never saw him again in my lifetime..."
Really interesting line when you think about it. One could say that about the lifetime of another character, but you can't say that about your own lifetime (since you are still in the midst of living it) unless you are narrating the story "beyond the rim" ...
At least, that's how I like to interpret it.
I like to think that the way the series can be observd by that advanced human long in the future suggests that all this has been recorded somehow, like a legend, or literally recorded, perhaps in the Great Machine, which Ivanova had no problem linking with being a latent telepath.
Perhaps she's watching over the future?
I think the developers of the Mass Effect games had this in mind with Shepard in the 'control' ending.
Everything ends, and that's always sad.
But everything begins again too and that's always happy. Be happy. I'll take care of the rest-The Twelfth Doctor
Cried the first time I watched this episode. Cried when I watched it the second time I watched the whole series...... and the third. Cried when I watched your full reaction to it on Patreon. Watched it again here to see what did and didn't make the youtube cut. Cried.
There's only two other shows that have broken my heart on the final episode the way this does. Blackadder goes Forth and Six Feet Under.
Considerg that Black Adder was a comedy it had a remakably poignent ending.
I cried my face off when this aired and I was a 27 year old guy at the time. And I've carried "We have to create the future or others will do it for us" in my head ever since.
Darn it! I can't even get through a reaction without tearing up. Anytime I see this episode. I can't stop.😭
Going in without tissues.
Two minutes later…..
At one point, there was no Season 5 and Rising Star ends with Delenn talking about the next 20 years and all the challenges they will face but Babylon 5 will endure. It seamlessly leads us into this episode better than Objects at Rest.
While I agree with you on the seamless lead into this episode however I'm glad we had the previous two episodes as it gave the characters/actors a chance to say goodbye to to each other and the fans
On one of my rewatches, I decided to skip season 5 and watch Sleeping in Light as the end of Season 4, and yeah, it does flow a lot better.
@@dcsignal5241 I skip it as well, because I just don’t like Season 5.
i’ve said this before ….it doesn’t matter how many times i watch sleeping in light it totally wreaks me even tho i know what’s coming……just superb
I have watched this episode more than 50 times by now; never got through it without tissues.
Joe Straczynski has a true gift for story telling and I am collecting whatever I can lay my hands on as long as it is writen by the Great Maker.
I make it a point to re-watch Babylon 5 every year, but his year I opted to wet my appetite with your reaction videos - which to me where a dream given form, a chance for me to relive something I have always loved through the eyes of another true believer. Thank You
Please please consider reading the 3 canon Trilogies. You won't get live action anymore but it will provide a lovely fix by vastly enriching the stories youve already seen. The show was only the tip of the iceberg. Vir's journey is especially extraordinary.
And now after 24 years, we witness Lady Ladira's prophecy from Season 1 Episode 13 "Signs and Portents" come true. Babylon 5 is destroyed. Prophecy is a powerful thing and Joe plays fair with it, but context is everything!
My favorite touch of this episode is watching the sunrise. The shows talks about Minbari believing in reincarnation, but what they don't say directly is that the Minbari believe souls collect in the heart of the sun and wait there to be born again. When they say "I will see you again in the place where no shadows fall" they mean in the sun, surrounded by light and where shadows are impossible. I will see you again, while we wait to be reborn into our next life.
Delenn is watching the sun come up not only because it's the last thing she did with John in life, but also because that's where John's soul is waiting for her.
Thank you for sharing your emotional reaction to this episode. I watched this over 20 years ago, and I have watched it again in the last couple years since the show has been available on streaming. I can't watch this episode without becoming an emotional wreck and crying. I'm 'happy' to see that this episode affects others as it affects me. Just a note, they filmed this episode at the end of season 4 because they didn't know if the show was going to be renewed for season 5.
Couldn't leave without a comment. Lots of thanks for this, it really brought me back 25 years to when I was recording each episode on VHS. Thanks again for the commentary, the wit and the sincerity.
@12:56 you are not a true B5 fan until you cry at this moment.
Since Delenn was also The One that a certain point, it kind of begs the question - is she going to be taken away in the same manner that Sinclair and Sheridan were.....🤔
And so it ends... I just wanted to say a massive thank you for your reactions to this entire series. I watched this show when it first came out & multiple times since. However, I have to say that watching it again through your eyes has been an absolute joy!! You've picked up on things, made connections that I'd missed - but are so obvious now!! I honestly don't know who has shed more tears you or me!! I knew (along with everyone else) that going into this last episode that it would be a tough watch for you, as the love you have for these characters comes across so powerfully. I hope that when you watched the end credits and the characters all came up, that you noticed what was written beside Marcus by Susan. If not go back and take a look... Thank you once again & look forward to your reaction video to the new animated B5 movie that comes out later this year!!
And now for the rewatch 😂
On the north side of 70 heading toward 80, and I still cried like a baby when they blew up the station.