Can An Italian Understand Swiss French?

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    Swiss French (French: français de Suisse or suisse romand) is the variety of French spoken in the French-speaking area of Switzerland known as Romandy. French is one of the four official languages of Switzerland, the others being German, Italian, and Romansch. In 2020 around 2 million people, or 22.8% of the population, in Switzerland spoke French as their primary language, and 28% of the population used French most often at work.[1]
    The French spoken in Switzerland is very similar to that of France or Belgium. The differences between the French of Switzerland and of France are mostly lexical, influenced by local substrate languages. This contrasts with the differences between Standard German and Swiss German, which are largely mutually unintelligible.
    Swiss French is characterized by some terms adopted from Arpitan, which was formerly spoken widely across the alpine communities of Romandy, but has far fewer speakers today. In addition, some expressions have been borrowed from both Swiss and Standard German. Although a standard form of French is taught in schools and used in the government, the media and business, there is no uniform vernacular form of French among the different cantons of Switzerland. For example, some German terms in regions bordering German-speaking communities are completely unused in the area around Geneva, a city by France's border with Switzerland

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  • @sagewisdom09
    @sagewisdom09 Рік тому +41

    Please do Louisiana French! It’s the most interesting dialect and isn’t spoken much these days, but a lot of people are fighting hard to keep it alive.

  • @Unpainted_Huffhines
    @Unpainted_Huffhines Рік тому +63

    I'm still holding out for Occitan.

    • @thegreekchad5066
      @thegreekchad5066 Рік тому +13

      He said he'll do it don't worry

    • @Unpainted_Huffhines
      @Unpainted_Huffhines Рік тому +6

      @@thegreekchad5066 in which video?
      Ah, I see in your other comment now. Good to know it's on his list and he isnt just forgeting it.

    • @kyomademon453
      @kyomademon453 Рік тому +4

      Occitan in all its variants, languedocian, gascon, aranese, limosin, auvergnat, provenzal, nizart and so on

    • @c0mpu73rguy
      @c0mpu73rguy Рік тому +1

      And he finally did it ^^

    • @NoName-yw1pt
      @NoName-yw1pt Рік тому

      Done

  • @thatwouldbeillogical
    @thatwouldbeillogical Рік тому +17

    Metatron, can you please do Cajun French? It's linguistically interesting because it's a dialect of French that has survived unsupported in an Anglophone country. It has drifted from the standard French of other countries due to not being taught in schools. I would like to hear your take on it.

  • @haaxeu6501
    @haaxeu6501 Рік тому +33

    I'm French (from Orléans) and to me the Swiss accent is rarely recognizable, they do have a slightly different cadence (they speak a little slower than us), and unique expressions and pronounciations, but I don't think I could tell that a person is Swiss just from hearing them speak. That's in stark contrast to the typical Belgian accent for example.

    • @AndOoFresH
      @AndOoFresH Рік тому +3

      On ne pas parle lantement, on prend seullement nos temps 😊

    • @kekerpz
      @kekerpz Рік тому +4

      En même temps si tu compares l'accent lissé vs le cliché tu vas forcément voir la différence mais en Belgique aussi certaines personnes n'ont quasi pas d'accent, on est pas tous comme le petit million de bruxellois hahah On est genre 3 millions de locuteurs francophones en Wallonie

    • @yannsalmon2988
      @yannsalmon2988 Рік тому +4

      Chaque pays a toujours des régions où l’accent est particulièrement hardcore comparé au reste et d’autres où tu n’entends pas du tout la différence. En revanche, j’ai du mal à cerner pourquoi dans telle ville ou telle région il va être plus prononcé qu’ailleurs. Il doit y avoir des raisons ethnographiques, géopolitiques, culturelles ou autres mais c’est marrant de constater que c’est pas forcément dans les régions « isolées » ou en pleine cambrousse comme on dit chez nous que les accents sont les plus extrêmes. Ce qui pose la question d’ailleurs de savoir ce que peut bien-être l’accent français « de base ».
      L’autre truc marrant avec les accents, c’est qu’il y a toujours un des interlocuteurs qui comprend parfaitement l’autre alors que logiquement si leurs accents sont si différents l’un de l’autre, les deux devraient galérer de manière équivalente.

    • @kekerpz
      @kekerpz Рік тому

      le français standard est basé sur le français que l'on parle à Paris. L'accent français de base n'existe pas et ce pour toutes les langues. Il n'y a pas d'accent américain de base, pas d'accent anglais de base etc juste des façons d'enseigner la langue standardisées mais tout le monde a un accent différent. Je crois que l'intensité de l'accent dépend de la localisation par rapport à une frontière, une grande ville et beaucoup aussi de la profession des locuteurs
      @@yannsalmon2988

    • @chiisuigintou
      @chiisuigintou Рік тому +1

      lol,
      didn't knew so many comments would also point out towards Wallonie.
      There are 10 distinct dialects if not mistaken, with some being, well, less different.
      Makes me think however,
      what about the dialect from Brussels.
      Brussels dialect is a Flemish dialect with strong imbedded French, might be fun as well,
      but I doubt he's going to look into that?

  • @Arjn17
    @Arjn17 Рік тому +5

    Note regarding numbers in Swiss French: Quatre-vingt is still said in some places. For example in Geneva it's pretty common, but if you say "Quatre-vingt" in Fribourg for example, everyone will instantly assume that you're French.

  • @JYHRO0
    @JYHRO0 Рік тому +24

    As a French speaker from quebec I understand the Swiss a little better than Parisian (99.5% vs 99.1%) except for their regional expressions. But the difference isn’t big. It seemed to be more different many years ago. I’m not sure I could always tell them apart. I think in your first video one of the guys was actually a visitor from Paris and you seemed to understand him better.

    • @haaxeu6501
      @haaxeu6501 Рік тому +1

      J'ai toujours trouvé que les Suisses parlent un peu moins vite, donc c'est peut être pour ça que tu les comprend plus facilement.

    • @JYHRO0
      @JYHRO0 Рік тому +2

      @@haaxeu6501 tu as raison je pense. Ça me rappelle un comédien qui caricaturait suisses dans un programme d’enfant. Il allongeait les voyelles ce qui ralentissait la prononciation.

    • @tabby7189
      @tabby7189 2 місяці тому

      J'ai travaillé quelques mois avec un suisse qui avait travaillé en France. Il était faible en anglais (ma langue principale) mais on s'est compris mieux que j'ai compris les français car ils parlent avec plein d'argot que je n'ai que commencé à apprendre.

  • @vince0717
    @vince0717 Рік тому +13

    Swiss french and standard french are actually not that different, in the sense that, if you go to Geneva for example, most young people (let’s say below 50 or so) will barely have a noticeable swiss accent at all. The only place you’ll find a strong swiss accent, is probably deep into the mountains with some older people. Otherwise, the difference in pronunciation is barely noticeable.

  • @thatianemarques4266
    @thatianemarques4266 Рік тому +8

    As a Portuguese speaker the metropolitan French sounds more clear to me. Didn’t imagine it was very different. Thanks for this content!

  • @NaldinhoGX
    @NaldinhoGX Рік тому +9

    Can't wait for Canadian / Quebec French! 😆

    • @patrickandries7412
      @patrickandries7412 Рік тому

      Le pauvre (de toute façon, il y a plein de québécois, ne pas prendre le joual svp, mais plutôt le parler français de la campagne pas trop proche de Montréal)

  • @lordmcmarshall
    @lordmcmarshall Рік тому +2

    Can't wait for the "high" german and swiss german comparison, it's almost an entirely different language.

  • @tibsky1396
    @tibsky1396 Рік тому +3

    The channel "Parpalhon Blau" is a good exemple for Occitan if you're looking for, he speaks the variants "Nissart" and "Lenguadocian". But also "ILoveLanguages" where you can find other variants: Gascon, Provençal, etc...

  • @mati290900
    @mati290900 Рік тому +11

    Can an Italian understand Chilean Spanish? I bet you don't! Greetings from Chile.

    • @Deibi078
      @Deibi078 Рік тому +3

      esta loco, de hecho que va a hacer todos los paises que pueda

  • @mySalerno
    @mySalerno Рік тому +4

    You have to try rumantsch!! 🇨🇭

  • @petelobl
    @petelobl Рік тому +3

    This is obviously known, and has to have been said n written many times before, but I find your English absolutely amazing. It has a hint (just enough) of some British accent, while maintaining your Italic-y roots.. and the flow is rapid with nothing to distract from the overall message. I was watching some ‘Who’ videos, then the algorithm brought me here, and I thought it was related to John Entwistle or something. Fascinating stuff - quite pleased with your content - and I might actually learn something.

    • @NaldinhoGX
      @NaldinhoGX Рік тому

      I had noticed that, too, but couldn't put into words.

  • @jeffreymelanson4549
    @jeffreymelanson4549 Рік тому +1

    I am Acadian French and the Swiss accent is easy to understand. Actually, the French joke about how the Swiss speak very slowly. Btw there is a region in Nova Scotia where the Acadians count like the Swiss. Perhaps it has something to with where they originated from in Europe 400 years ago.
    Love your work! Excellent travail!

  • @luke211286
    @luke211286 Рік тому +2

    I have met someone from Wallonia, and he said to me that eighty is "octante" in their place. Probably even more recognisable to an Italian

  • @RadioAraujo
    @RadioAraujo Рік тому +1

    Make a video about Corsega and Mirandese Language (Portugal)

  • @FrancescoRossi-q4s
    @FrancescoRossi-q4s Рік тому +2

    Bonjour! Bienvenu à la Romandie virtuelle. I am once more back on my home territory workwise. Before looking at your video I was translating (working from my home in Italy) a Swiss government agency document from French. ;-) That's what I meant by "Romandie virtuelle", or vritual French-speaking Switzerland. My first comment is that you will find in Swiss French nearly all and more of the strange "elvetismi" = "hélvétismes" that you already noticed in Swiss Italian, "action", "respectivement", etc. In the spoken language, one problem is that in Romandie many people speak with all sorts of accents (my colleagues come from Argentina, El Salvador, Nicaragua, etc.). So to hear real genuine locals you must go outside the big cities of Geneva and Lausanne. In this video they referred to Swiss words used in Lausanne as "patois vaudois", but rather than "the dialect of Vaud" as an Italian would use the term "dialetto", this means "local slang". The real Franco-Provençal dialects of Romandie are preserved better in the Catholic cantons of Fribourg and Valais, rather than in the Protestant cantons of Vaud and Geneva. I assume that the local dialects are also better preserved in some 0f the remoter parts of the French-speaking Jura cantons: Jura, Neuchâtel and parts of Berne.

  • @thegreekchad5066
    @thegreekchad5066 Рік тому +2

    Another interesting installment in this also interesting series well done metatron the btw the occitan episode is going to be craaazyy

  • @ayyyyylmao
    @ayyyyylmao Рік тому +6

    would be interesting to see you try to understand the Romansh language if you're already going through swiss latin languages haha

  • @ahm4040
    @ahm4040 Рік тому +1

    Huitante and nonante are used in Belgium and Switzerland and for the pronunciation they are very similar to Parisian French. I think in some remote Areas in Switzerland they also use octante for eighty but I think it's very rarely used.
    They also use the word bourgmestre in Switzerland and Belgium it's originated from German Burgmeister meaning mayor.

  • @tibsky1396
    @tibsky1396 Рік тому +3

    As a Southern French (with a Provençal accent), my impression for French-speaking Swiss is a question of cadence, I always have the impression that they speak more slowly, but also that they tend to emphasize the penultimate syllable of words, which gives a higher variation of the voice when they speak.

    • @Arjn17
      @Arjn17 Рік тому +1

      Those are not just an impression, they're facts. The regional TV station in Switzerland, RTS, did a humorous video on that called " "Suisse" - C'est quoi l'accent suisse?" where they go to a linguistic expert based in Brussels and she says those are facts (and have been measured). She gives examples which I find quite convincing. I'm a French-speaking Swiss and I don't find it to be offensive at all.

  • @erkkinho
    @erkkinho Рік тому +1

    There is a regional Language in Eastern France and Switzerland: Franco-Provençal or Arpitan.

  • @yannsalmon2988
    @yannsalmon2988 Рік тому +2

    You will have more or less the same result with Belgian or Quebec French. They’re all pretty much the same, the main difference are local idioms and pronunciation accents, which can vary greatly from one part to the other of each country.
    A tougher challenge would be French Créole or Cajun French which diverge a lot more from basic French.
    What would also be interesting is to see how much of Medieval French you could understand compared to Modern French. I wonder if earlier versions of European Roman languages were actually closer to each other than they are now…

  • @eganengelhardt3078
    @eganengelhardt3078 Рік тому

    I would love it. if you were to do a video. On Cajon French from Louisiana.

  • @veritasardens6547
    @veritasardens6547 Рік тому +2

    As a non-native French speaker, I would say that the Swiss French pronunciation is not too different from that of Metropolitan French, a few differences but mostly the same or maybe I could not see so many differences. Of course, aside from the numbers, the Swiss generally speak French slowly when compared to Parisians and this makes it easier to understand a lot of times aside from the regional expressions.

  • @MrRabiddogg
    @MrRabiddogg Рік тому +1

    numbers 1-10 in the Germanic languages are fairly similar as well. Its one of those things that comes from a long long time ago

  • @larabukers
    @larabukers Рік тому

    In that part where the guy was interviewing the other guy, they were talking about a Swiss French expression for drinking heavily the night before, and recommencing it early the next morning,for as far as I understood it haha.. anyway, thanks for the video 😊

  • @noone679
    @noone679 Рік тому +2

    About Portuguese; try gaúcho (gaooshoo) accent, heavily influenced by italian immigration.

  • @thomasgaliana6288
    @thomasgaliana6288 Рік тому +10

    Can an Italian understand Klingon?

    • @coquimapping8680
      @coquimapping8680 Рік тому

      Now, we NEED to find out

    • @unarealtaragionevole
      @unarealtaragionevole Рік тому

      Hmm...I don't know about Klingon as it was intentionally created to sound as non-human as possible. But it might be interesting to see other conlangs with a strong Latin or Romance inspiration. Like Esperanto, Mundolinco, Latino sino flexione, Interglossa, or Lingua Franca Nova.......or.....for fiction languages like Lantean from Stargate.

  • @Deibi078
    @Deibi078 Рік тому +7

    now that you are making all these videos and you have gone crazy, could you do Esperanto some day? it has a lot of Romance words and pronunciation is very similar to Italian and Spanish

    • @Unpainted_Huffhines
      @Unpainted_Huffhines Рік тому +1

      Interlingua too.
      I have a bit of poor German, crappy French, terrible Spanish, and my native English, and I can read most of the Interlingua I try.

    • @Deibi078
      @Deibi078 Рік тому

      @@Unpainted_Huffhines nah

    • @Unpainted_Huffhines
      @Unpainted_Huffhines Рік тому +1

      @@Deibi078 why nah?

    • @unarealtaragionevole
      @unarealtaragionevole Рік тому

      Good luck with that. I have been asking for Esperanto for years.

    • @Unpainted_Huffhines
      @Unpainted_Huffhines Рік тому +1

      @@unarealtaragionevole he only started this series in ernest a few weeks ago.

  • @thatcherdonovan7305
    @thatcherdonovan7305 Рік тому +2

    Québec French please! Or, if you want something REALLY out of left field... Baie Sainte-Marie French from Nova Scotia. My favourite accent, as an anglo-quebecer.

  • @vince0717
    @vince0717 Рік тому +2

    At 4:30 he basically said that there are two expressions. The first one being “Prendre un singe” literally meaning “To take a monkey” and the second one “Rallumer le sapin” literally meaning “To light up the fir tree again”. And he then went on to explain that the first one meant “To get very drunk” and the second one is when you are hungover and begin drinking again. The interviewer then asked if it was used in the morning or the evening, and the man said it could be used for either. Hope this helps👍

    • @michelefrau6072
      @michelefrau6072 Рік тому

      Fun fact: in Italian there are similar idioms about a monkey and being high, "avere/prendere/salire una/la scimmia (sulla spalla)", it means also to be addicted, to be eager, to be obsessed to somthing

    • @vince0717
      @vince0717 Рік тому

      @@michelefrau6072 Very interesting

  • @andreasghb8074
    @andreasghb8074 Рік тому +1

    Unlike in German, where Swiss-German absolutely dominates, the Swiss Patois, a version of Franco-Provencal, has really died out, replaced by standard French with a local accent.

  • @OBIDU13
    @OBIDU13 Рік тому +3

    'Carrément' literally means 'Squarely' and it is used to say 'Completely'. No etymological connection with 'Chiaramente' ('Clairement' in French).

    • @yannsalmon2988
      @yannsalmon2988 Рік тому +1

      You are totally correct and that was my first reaction too, but still I wonder if this was not an expression that we invented by badly translating the Italian expression « Chiaramente ». Because they awfully sound very similar and we use it in the exact same mean and purpose than « clairement » (which is the correct French translation of « Chiaramente »). When we say in French that something is « carrément bon » or « carrément mauvais », it doesn’t really makes sense to say that something is squarely good or bad, whereas clearly good/bad seems much more logical. It would not be the first word in our dictionary that is a sound-alike for which the etymology still makes total sense (like the « au temps pour moi » vs « autant pour moi » expression). « Carrément » is even considered as a valid translation of « chiaramente » in Italian to French dictionaries.

  • @jtinalexandria
    @jtinalexandria Рік тому +2

    So this is just colloquial "Swiss French" from the big cities like Geneva and not Arpitan (or "patois") which they speak in the countryside.

  • @holygooff
    @holygooff Рік тому

    For Belgian (more speciafically Brussels) French you should watch the film 'Dikkenek' :p

  • @unarealtaragionevole
    @unarealtaragionevole Рік тому +2

    Metatron, video topic idea...I wonder if there's a name for the phenomenon of a foreign person not being able to hear the differences or pick up the accent/sound differences in a given language? Why does it just sound like that language to an untrained ear? Our brains are programmed to identify differences more than similarities, but not so much for languages. It's almost like in order to communicate, our brains are designed to search for similarities more. For example, a non-Italian speaker usually can't hear the differences between Italian varieties. A non-French speaker usually can't hear the differences between French varieties. They just hear Italian or French. But why? A speaker can clearly hear the differences as plain as day, but why can't a non-speaker?

    • @sonodiventataunalbero5576
      @sonodiventataunalbero5576 Рік тому

      Interesting topic. I think it's our brain trying to understand as much as possible thus blending out what it doesn't recognise. Which can have funny consequences. I grew up bilingual swiss Italian and ch-French and my mum was bilingual ch-german and ch-french. I now live in Zurich and am fluent in German. So I do understand even Spanish and Portuguese fairly well because I suppose that my earing differeces is well trained. But the funny thing, I was on holiday in Latvia and I couldn't understand the language, apart from very very few similarities to either German or Latin (?), but it sounded to me like ch-german from the region of Bern (which is particular) and my brain would recognise a familiar sound but couldn't understand anything and kept being frustrated 😅 Interesting how very different languages can sound similar

  • @chiisuigintou
    @chiisuigintou Рік тому

    Okay, maybe you could do the same 4 Belgian French as well?
    I mean as in dialects from Wallonie?
    There are 10 of them of not mistaken,
    but that's a bit too much content I suppose.

  • @gregoriomarzano2628
    @gregoriomarzano2628 Рік тому

    They are the latin lenguages (3+3 persons) and there's a way to talk everyone of them if the so far creole got the same verbal structure

  • @afuyeas9914
    @afuyeas9914 Рік тому

    Differences between Parisian French and Swiss French (particularly in the canton of Geneva) are mostly lexical, phonetically they're very close the younger the swiss speakers are. The only real difference is that people from Switzerland tend to pronounce open vowels where French people use close vowels (stereotypical 'tèlè' for TV). That tendency is particularly noticeable in the accent of the last guy. Speakers outside of the canton of Geneva (historically the closest one to France French) tend to have notable features not heard here such as adding a yod to endings in -eV (vie, nue, boue, armée) making a word like "vie" rhyme with "brille".

  • @forddaly28
    @forddaly28 Рік тому +5

    can an Italian understand ticinese (dialect of Italian spoken in Switzerland Ticino canton)

    • @metatronacademy
      @metatronacademy  Рік тому +2

      I already have that video :)

    • @Kim-J312
      @Kim-J312 Рік тому +1

      He has to try Creole! Lol , it's pretty difficult

    • @sammy9604
      @sammy9604 Рік тому +2

      ​​​@@metatronacademyYes but they have some dialects in Ticino you wouldn't understand at all, i'm swiss french and i speak italian too but i wouldn't understand siciliano 😌
      EDIT I love your videos by the way 😄

    • @forddaly28
      @forddaly28 Рік тому +2

      @@metatronacademy I've only seen the one where you listened to standard Swiss Italian. I'm referring to the actual Lombard dialect/language of this region. Very different than standard Italian, it sounds like a combo of french and Italian.

  • @jameshumphreys9715
    @jameshumphreys9715 Рік тому

    I hope you do Sandrinian

  • @mandalorianactual1215
    @mandalorianactual1215 Рік тому +1

    Brazilian American, fluent in Portuguese/Spanish/English and studied French and German for 3 years. I understand them better than Parisian French. And oddly I speak and understand more German than I could ever French.

  • @BakerVS
    @BakerVS Рік тому

    An educated Swiss French speaker is going to be VERY similar to metropolitan French, with the exception of certain vowels, and some unique vocabulary.
    Basically, it's as different as Italy Italian to Ticino Italian.
    For rural speakers, the accent can vary a lot from one canton to the other (check out the comedy show 120 secondes, or 52 minutes).
    For a REAL Swiss French language, try listening to the 'patois valaisan' or 'patois du val d'Hérens'. It's a variety of the almost extinct franco-provençal languages.

  • @tyronew5464
    @tyronew5464 Рік тому

    You should do one on the now endangered gallo-roman languages! They're closely related to french and the one that used to be spoken more in french-speaking Switzerland is called patois or Franco-provencal (which is also spoken in north-western Italy). Due to it's proximity to Italy, you might understand more!

  • @khelian613
    @khelian613 Рік тому

    Québecois french or Cajun (Louisiana) French could be more interesting to try out!

  • @TheRedleg69
    @TheRedleg69 Рік тому

    All I know is that I need to start saying take the monkey and relight the Christmas tree lol.

  • @alexj9603
    @alexj9603 Рік тому +1

    As a native French speaker I could hardly hear any difference in the accent between metropolitan French and the language spoken in these videos (which were mostly shot in the city of Lausanne). There are just a few different words and expressions.
    The first video focused on different slang expressions. These are difficult in any language when you are not familiar with them. Btw the second interviewee was from France and only happened to work in Lausanne. He mentioned a few expressions he had picked up from his Swiss colleagues.
    There are however rural areas in Switzerland where dialects of French are spoken which sound quite different.

  • @coda5998
    @coda5998 Рік тому

    If you want to see what swiss standart french look like I redirect you to Ovomaltine's commercial of the 80's it's kinda parodic in the usage but it's the only video that I know who
    's at the closest

    • @coda5998
      @coda5998 Рік тому

      And like quebecois and belgian frenches, swiss french is more using archaisms than the metroplian one and have some words in commun with the other languages with whom it shares the country when metroplian french doesn't
      And we use some time trades for naming concepts like natel as you saw in your video on ticinese

    • @coda5998
      @coda5998 Рік тому

      Correction there is a serie on UA-cam call "120 seconde" who there 2 actors talking about news in interviews format with a satirical side one playing the reporter and the other playing people talking with accents from the region where people are coming from

  • @patricialavery8270
    @patricialavery8270 Рік тому +1

    They remind me of English people who are fluent in French.

  • @nomore9004
    @nomore9004 Рік тому +4

    Occitan language when?

  • @josephnguyen4548
    @josephnguyen4548 Рік тому +1

    Occitan, Franco-Provençal, or Piedmontese please

  • @xjmmjbnqfstjdijoj2044
    @xjmmjbnqfstjdijoj2044 Рік тому +6

    Young Swiss French speakers (and this also applies to young Belgian French speakers) sound so metropolitan French that apart from a few words they use (like numbers) they are completely indistinguishable...even to natives
    Most people will still say that they can clearly hear a difference but I have seen so many examples of people not knowing that someone was from Switzerland or Belgium until they have actually been told so

    • @NaldinhoGX
      @NaldinhoGX Рік тому +2

      Yep. I've even seen a native Swiss French speaker saying there are almost 0 differences compared to Metropolitan French, it was basically the exact same thing. I believe Belgian French is a bit easier to distinguish for natives due to its vowels and their common usage of strong Rs, but even then they all sound very close to one another. That's why I'm also very excited to see Canadian French here. 😆

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca Рік тому +1

      Standard French is an epidemic...

    • @NaldinhoGX
      @NaldinhoGX Рік тому

      @@bacicinvatteneaca Right? Haha!

  • @divicospower9112
    @divicospower9112 Рік тому +3

    You did not face the most brutal Swiss accents there (I know that it's not your fault, you could not know). The last guy speaks with a clear vaudois accent. If you take from Geneva, Valais, Neuchâtel, they are all different and very recognizable if you speak French.

  • @Akaykimuy
    @Akaykimuy Рік тому

    Hoping for Venetian

  • @mwittmann68
    @mwittmann68 Рік тому +1

    It's not really French Swiss. The Swiss Francophones traditionnaly spoke Arpitan. The people interviewed here are speaking standard French with only minor differences with the French spoken in France.

  • @NoName-yw1pt
    @NoName-yw1pt Рік тому

    Still looking forward for East Sicilian

  • @granist
    @granist Рік тому +3

    Can an Italian understand Icelandic

  • @piafounetMarcoPesenti
    @piafounetMarcoPesenti Рік тому

    "carrément" means definitely, litterally "squarely".

  • @GizmoMcs
    @GizmoMcs Рік тому +4

    as a portuguese i barely understand it from hearing it and what i understand it's cause i had 1 year of french in school lol
    the words you recognized are pretty much the same i did cause they similar in portuguese (same with the numbers)

  • @nashtags
    @nashtags 6 місяців тому

    Besides some local expressions and word typically used on site and that someone else from other parts of Romandy wouldn't necessarily understand, a Swiss-French can be understood almost 100% in Paris and vice-versa too, BUT for the numbers:
    78 Septante-Huit (Seventy-Eight) in Switzerland vs Soixante-Dix-Huit (Sixty-Eighteen) in France
    88 Huitante-Huit (Eighty-Eight) only in Vaud, Fribourg and Valais as in Geneva, Neuchâtel, Jura and Berne Quatre-Vingt-Huit (Four-Twenty-Eight) prevails
    98 Nonante-Huit (Ninety-Eight) in Switzerland vs Quatre-Vingt-Dix-Huit (Four-Twenty-Eighteen) in «some» regions of France incl. Paris
    Note that «Octante» is, in contrary to the urban legend, said nowhere in Switzerland nor in Belgium. It's funny as Belgian usually think the Swiss say Octante and the Swiss usually think Belgian says Octante but no-one says it nowhere anymore today.
    The main differences are expressions and some words, but still, if you go in France in Savoy, Jura, Doubs or even Haut-Rhin and Belfort, the language is pretty much the same from both parts of the border and words can be understood from one place or the other.
    A typical Swiss-French exception is to invert some letters. W is often called Double-V in France and often Vé-Double (sometimes VéVé) in Switzerland. J is pronounced Ji in France and sometimes you can hear iiiiJ (reverted sound) in Switzerland.
    And the meals are also more logical in Switzerland: Déjeuner (Switz.) instead of Petit-Déjeuner (France) for Breakfast - Dîner (Switz.) instead of Déjeuner (France) for Lunch and Souper (Switz.) instead of Dîner (France) for Supper. People in France will say that «Petit-Déjeuner» is more logical but it's wrong. «Dé» already means «Un-» so if you «Déjeune» you Un-fast or «Break-fast». The translation of French-France means «Little-Break-Fast» while in Switzerland, after a night where you did fast, you just «Break-the-Fast» (or Breakfast).

  • @JeanPaulMueller
    @JeanPaulMueller Рік тому

    Hey Metatron. Do Romansch!!!!

  • @bongdonkey
    @bongdonkey Рік тому

    Ciao Metatron, Chi e cu tutti li video supra u populu Talianu? Minchia! lol!

  • @tabby7189
    @tabby7189 2 місяці тому

    In the second clip, the guy is talking about some terms for women he finds misogynistic (and hesitating accordingly).
    You should have shown numbers 70 through 79

  • @PandaHernandez23
    @PandaHernandez23 Рік тому +4

    Listening to any kind of spoken French is a disaster to my British ears. Reading is a lot easier.

  • @KukulcanZ
    @KukulcanZ Рік тому

    I'm italian and i really don't understand french.... but except the girl from the first clip i can't hear much difference.

  • @crazyjack5646
    @crazyjack5646 Рік тому

    As a speaker of English. How many other germanic languages could you understand?

  • @davidlericain
    @davidlericain Рік тому

    I'm not a native French speaker but I speak it quite well and I don't hear much of a difference.
    Buy Yeah, do Quebecois french. Lol That is different for sure!

  • @IIARROWS
    @IIARROWS Рік тому

    I just realised... Swiss French is less stoned. Yes, because quatravent is just 420. They are just eager to get weed at 80.

  • @bacicinvatteneaca
    @bacicinvatteneaca Рік тому

    Surprisingly, the speaker in the numbers video said /wʰit , wʰitɑ̃t/ as opposed to /ɥʰit, *ɥʰitɑ̃t/, using the "ou" instead of "u" of French.
    The only examples of a recognisable Swiss accent are THIS, and the French guy who was reporting the misogynistic slang he'd learn in Swiss - where he was overdoing what HE perceived as Swiss accent

  • @christopherellis2663
    @christopherellis2663 Рік тому

    Designates
    Four score and nineteen 99

  • @xenotypos
    @xenotypos Рік тому

    French people do maths when they say 80 and 90, so that they train constantly to gain even more Field medals than they already have. That's dedication.

  • @mgplayzxd3062
    @mgplayzxd3062 Рік тому +1

    Occitan or even Arpitan?

  • @Garzon7293
    @Garzon7293 2 місяці тому

    Better question can an Italian understand Swiss Italian

  • @oleksandrbyelyenko435
    @oleksandrbyelyenko435 Рік тому +1

    4:20 AM gang

  • @Sidistic_Atheist
    @Sidistic_Atheist Рік тому +1

    OMG!! I hated language at school. They tried to teach us *Esperanto* aaarrrgghhh!!!
    I know it's an ignorant way to think. But as I'm Englishman, born n Bred. Most of the world have English as a second language. So I felt no need, to be fluent in another language.
    I can get by with the little French, Italian and even some Japanese. (ie) Basic's learnt whilst holidaying there. lol

    • @Deibi078
      @Deibi078 Рік тому +1

      you'll have way more engaging material to learn Japanese than Esperanto lol

    • @PandaHernandez23
      @PandaHernandez23 Рік тому

      Private school boy? Never heard of anyone learning Esperanto at school

  • @mukbangist
    @mukbangist Рік тому

    No. Carrément is not chiaramente. Chiaramente is clairement. Carrément means something like totally.

  • @callumbush1
    @callumbush1 Рік тому +2

    Romansh?

  • @giorgiodifrancesco4590
    @giorgiodifrancesco4590 Рік тому

    Fois-> fiata = "volta" in italiano antico. Spesso, il francese ha corrispondenti in italiano antico.
    E' strano che tu non capisca bene il francese dopo averlo studiato un po'. Io l'ho studiato solo alle medie inferiori e lo capisco. Alle superiori ho studiato l'inglese. Forse, ti sei immerso troppo nell'inglese americano o forse sono facilitato io dalla conoscenza del piemontese. Non so.

  • @Skitstjerne
    @Skitstjerne Рік тому

    French is the Danish of Romance Languages. 🤣

  • @3SLBK
    @3SLBK Рік тому

    You used to do whole videos in French. What happened, did you forget it partially over time, or you just had been overly confident back then?
    No offence, just curious. My French is also weakening slowly :/

  • @brian106699
    @brian106699 Рік тому

    I’d like to better understand how and why the Italian dialects are so incomprehensible to you. The cadence and inflection sound similar to me as a native English speaker. It’s not like the difference between Mandarin and Cantonese which sound completely different.

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca Рік тому

      The sound changes are massive, like English and Dutch or more. And the vocabulary is completely different too. The cadence and inflection are also radically different, no idea how you could perceive that otherwise... Obviously nothing as outlandish as French cadence, but still

    • @brian106699
      @brian106699 Рік тому

      @@bacicinvatteneaca I appreciated your answer until the “I have no idea how you could’ve perceived that otherwise” part. Makes sense though.

  • @banmadabon
    @banmadabon Рік тому

    Can An Italian Understand when it's time to end a series ?😉

    • @metatronacademy
      @metatronacademy  Рік тому +1

      Yes and it definitely isn't, since the channel has had a 760% growth since I started it. Can a non content creator without access to channel analytics understand when it's time to end a series? ;)

    • @banmadabon
      @banmadabon Рік тому

      @@metatronacademy Can An Italian Understand emoji's meaning?🤔

  • @TheSleeperMusic228
    @TheSleeperMusic228 Рік тому

    Try canadian french

  • @UardaSherifi
    @UardaSherifi 10 місяців тому

    Hallo ich bin Uarda i ch Libe schpilen

  • @mrtrollnator123
    @mrtrollnator123 Рік тому

    It dont even sound that different tbh besides a few words

  • @deinix
    @deinix Рік тому

    Romansh language?

  • @philiippeLemaire
    @philiippeLemaire Рік тому

    Si le go et goy ait l'ego qui tait on☕☕

  • @iratanokodiak
    @iratanokodiak Рік тому

    Pourquoi ils interview des gars et des filles qui sont pas romands?

  • @pendulumL3
    @pendulumL3 Рік тому

    I'm sorry to say this, but your choice of videos was quite poor. Many speakers here are not swiss (even some of the interviewees), and I highly doubt that the person in the last video is a native or even good french speaker. The "ou" sound in numbers like "huit" does not occur in french from France or Switzerland. Overall, this did not yield a good amount of exposure to Swiss french.
    I am a frenchman who has been living in Lausanne for 2 years now so I do have some first-hand experience on the matter, and there definitely is a local accent which is quite recognizable, for native speakers at least. Switzerland has quite a few different french accents already. Vaud (in which the video was shot) is among the most recognizable ones. It tends to be much less pronounced in big cities such as Lausanne and with younger folks - so the majority of people in the video. There also are quite a lot of French nationals in the area, and then you have people from Geneva whose accent is very close to French from France (for instance, they use "quatre-vingts" despite being Swiss). I would say that the main differences between fr-ch and fr-fr lie in some expressions and vocabulary, similar to what you showed in Ticinese vs standard Italian.
    That being said, I wouldn't expect you to pick up the difference between accents. This would be quite normal, since you do not fully understand spoken french (although you seem to pick up a very good amount of it). Recognizing accents would be quite a big step higher.

    • @metatronacademy
      @metatronacademy  Рік тому +1

      Feel free to suggest some videos, but don't put links, just titles. Thanks

    • @pendulumL3
      @pendulumL3 Рік тому

      @@metatronacademy
      Here are some suggestions after a quick search. Please keep in mind that I am not swiss, so this is probably not the best representation; I am also mostly familiar with the way people from Vaud speak, not so much with other cantons. If any swiss person has input, that would also be very welcome! I'll list the titles followed by the names of the channels.
      Le Vaudois qui a révolutionné les chaussures de football
      L'illustré
      Allocution du 1er août 2021 - Guy Parmelin, Président de la Conféderation
      Der Schweizerische Bundesrat - Le Conseil fédéral suisse - Il Consiglio federale svizzero
      Le blues des paysans suisses
      RTS - Radio Télévision Suisse
      LES PÂTÉS VAUDOIS 🏆 Du petit encas @La-BOUCHE-qui-RIT 📍Lausanne
      La Bouche qui Rit
      Valais: L'accent d'Isérables reconnaissable entre mille? Nous sommes allés voir sur place.
      Patrick Ferrari
      Valais: On vous emmène à la recherche de l'accent du Val d'Illiez à l'heure de l'apéro
      Patrick Ferrari
      Bernard Rappaz, la culture du chanvre et de la désobéissance civile
      Les archives de la RTS

  • @EricNoneless
    @EricNoneless Рік тому

    You really love to pet your hair, right?

  • @CT-7567R3X
    @CT-7567R3X Рік тому

    Swiss and Belgians don't have strong accent nowadays. People in some regions of France have a stronger accent.

  • @st0rmrider
    @st0rmrider Рік тому

    Their French is much more cheesy and full of holes

  • @edetanussanibelser4336
    @edetanussanibelser4336 Рік тому

    Can an Italian understand Klingon?