Big PC Cases are DEAD to Me. - Dan Cases C4-SFX

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  • @LinusTechTips
    @LinusTechTips  Рік тому +581

    What do you guys think of this small form factor case? Let us know below!
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    • @th1jzzz531
      @th1jzzz531 Рік тому +50

      Asus motherboard and X3D Cpu.. That cant go well

    • @guycxz
      @guycxz Рік тому +5

      @@th1jzzz531 That's just their way of showing you can fit an ICE in this thing.

    • @Ecci2
      @Ecci2 Рік тому +6

      It's quite cool, but I've never liked such small cases

    • @GDInklord
      @GDInklord Рік тому +1

      I think it’s overall just a nice looking small case

    • @convextlc9767
      @convextlc9767 Рік тому +26

      Why are you advertising Asus boards with 7000X3D cpus with the issues around them together. I get if the video was shot before it BUT take out the affiliate links at least from the video description and this comment.

  • @eldibs
    @eldibs Рік тому +7581

    You're building in a DanCase without Dan? How could you?!

    • @AXCBER
      @AXCBER Рік тому +119

      He might have been busy setting up Wan show but yea, it was a huge missed opportunity.

    • @ahsookee
      @ahsookee Рік тому +70

      The guy who designed this case is called Daniel I believe, it's a one man show from Germany. Would have been dope to have him on a video

    • @NpxrDSMNTL
      @NpxrDSMNTL Рік тому +10

      Well who is gonna continue making cases for the other customers?

    • @doq
      @doq Рік тому +45

      @@ahsookee Dan and Dan build in a DanCase would go way too hard for our mortal eyes and ears.

    • @Ale-bj7nd
      @Ale-bj7nd Рік тому +8

      No that's a damn case

  • @bryce2113
    @bryce2113 Рік тому +255

    The warranty sticker thing is one of the main reasons I'll miss EVGA's GPUs. They honor their warranty even when you disassemble and install a waterblock on the card. I've had to RMA two EVGA GPUs (out of like 11 I've owned from them) after I watercooled them. I told them up front that they've been watercooled. They simply told me to put the stock heatsink back on and said the only issue would be if I didn't have the stock thermal pads anymore (which they offered to send me). RMA process was a breeze still. RIP EVGA, you will be missed.

    • @kylemiller2920
      @kylemiller2920 Рік тому +27

      No lie, EVGA is one of the easiest companies ever to work with, and their CS has always been first class when I've had to work with them.

    • @YaKillaCJ
      @YaKillaCJ Рік тому +10

      XFX honored the warranty too. They even went as far as to offer Waterblock installation for the AMD Vega cards, U pay for shipping.

    • @hungcanmanh4683
      @hungcanmanh4683 Рік тому +9

      Not like they are dead. They just choose to not to stay with the unseasonable

    • @summushieremiasclarkson4700
      @summushieremiasclarkson4700 Рік тому +1

      XFX are just as good, if not better. They explicitly list that they don't cover warranty on used cards, but when my $250 6800xt started acting up (shocking, I know), they agreed to provide RMA so long as I paid for shipping. This was a surprise to me, I even told them it was used.

  • @eagle653
    @eagle653 Рік тому +193

    The SSD bending is because there's space for a double sided SSD, but a single sided one is thinner so it doesn't make contact with the thermal pad underneath and gets pushed in by the cooler. But ASUS have actually accounted for that and they include a rubber spacer which you can install underneath a single sided SSD to support it and stop it bending. It's not well-advertised but if you look in the accessories box it should be there, and there's a page in the manual showing where to put it. Alternatively you can just add another layer of thermal pad if you lose the spacer.

    • @DannyNguyen56
      @DannyNguyen56 Рік тому +10

      go figure, nobody rtfm anymore😂. Thanks for the tip though

    • @Atari8888
      @Atari8888 Рік тому +5

      ​@@DannyNguyen56read the fuckin manual?

    • @TsLeng
      @TsLeng Рік тому +3

      Correct. I read the manual on my Asus MB and it calls for it. I did it. RTFM chaps😂

    • @RiceCubeTech
      @RiceCubeTech 9 місяців тому

      @@Atari8888lmao that’s what I thought of instantly too😂

  • @wakeboyy
    @wakeboyy Рік тому +341

    I remember when Dan's cases were fairly new on the market and super niche. Pretty cool to see them keep pushing SFF. I just got a Dan A4-H2O last year and love it.

    • @Dustmadeout
      @Dustmadeout Рік тому +1

      Yeah, very cool for 200€ lol.

    • @Zoduk
      @Zoduk Рік тому

      I live the H2O, but its missing the size to comfortably fit a 4090....my prayers have been answered!

    • @Invincibleagent
      @Invincibleagent Рік тому +1

      @@Zoduk The H2O can fit the 4090 FE and MSI Ventus model

    • @pldcanfly
      @pldcanfly Рік тому +1

      Got a A4-H2O last year too, it's just such a great case. And maintenance is not that hard with the possibility to pull the bottom off, and the hole in the front. Still in love with it.

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys Рік тому +1

      Do you have some need for the case to be half as tall or is all that hassle just to look cool? Footprint wise Its 4.5cm narrower and shorter than my Corsair 220T but also a hell of a lot harder to build in and you need compromised components?

  • @Sir_Tachyon
    @Sir_Tachyon Рік тому +185

    In regards to the tamper sticker, Isopropyl alcohol works as a great solvent to temporarily make the sticker no longer sticky. Then once the isopropyl alcohol evaporates you can re-apply it like a new sticker. This trick also works for the rubber feet on many devices that manufacturers love to hide screws with.

    • @wtfsalt
      @wtfsalt Рік тому +8

      Learnt something new, cheers

    • @amaizen4817
      @amaizen4817 Рік тому +6

      first i was like "no shit sherlock" and then i went to "oh snap thats cool"

    • @Rov-Nihil
      @Rov-Nihil Рік тому +1

      A solvent meaning it dissolves the glue, no?

    • @Aerosklice
      @Aerosklice Рік тому +11

      ​@@Rov-Nihil it disolves it but it makes sense that if you just leave the alcool and glue on it instead of wiping it off it will get sticky again when the solvent evaporates

    • @Nick-cp4td
      @Nick-cp4td Рік тому +1

      ​@@Aerosklice naaah ,if you apply to much,the glue remains on the card,its a very tricky and delicate operation

  • @Alec_Smahrt
    @Alec_Smahrt Рік тому +11

    I'm waiting for a mass manufacturer to just bulk produce these for like $38. When a full ATX case can be sub-$40, there's no good reason (aside from small production run and "because you'll pay it") for a case with this little material to cost $200+. Heck, you don't even need to have it be pre-assembled, just ship with instructions and let the user do it. Cutting out steel panels doesn't cost that much, especially in bulk. For a small run, charge what you want I guess, but for this to be mainstream a big maker just need to make them in bulk and price accordingly. If "Bgears b-Vigor RGB Mid Tower with Front RGB Light and Side Tempered Glass (BG01879)" can be #17 on Amazon's best sellers for PC cases, for $38, and have tempered glass and lights, this SFX case can be done for $38. It doesn't even need a riser, so there's no excuse about minimum costs there.

  • @Pyrobob4
    @Pyrobob4 Рік тому +280

    Adam really came alive this video. I know he's been on camera quite a bit at this point, but something about this video reminded me of the days when hosts like Anthony and Alex were getting their video legs. When the host is comfortable and confident, and their personality really gets to shine through. Love to see it.

    • @pipisugbo
      @pipisugbo Рік тому +16

      It was like watching regular Linus working with Big Linus 🤣

    • @OriginalDegree
      @OriginalDegree Рік тому

      Two

    • @thomasphillips885
      @thomasphillips885 Рік тому +1

      He's turning into a Jake personality
      And maybe body double (slowly)

    • @themardybum08
      @themardybum08 Рік тому +1

      It would help even more if Linus didn't keep trying to undermine him lol.

    • @resiennn
      @resiennn Рік тому +1

      Like his spine

  • @Z0eff
    @Z0eff Рік тому +846

    The fact that you don't need a riser cable makes a huge difference to me. Those end up causing so many issues in real world use cases

    • @boot-strapper
      @boot-strapper Рік тому +16

      such as?

    • @lambyi
      @lambyi Рік тому +83

      ​@Bootstrapper A lot of cases still ship with a Gen 3 riser. Gen 4 mobo, Gen 3 riser, and Gen 4 GPU can lead to a lot of instability and for first time builders it can be a hassle figuring out that's the problem.

    • @TazerXI
      @TazerXI Рік тому +64

      @@lambyi And it is just another thing to plug in, and another point of failure. Not having one is probably better just for simplicity's sake

    • @Connorbrow
      @Connorbrow Рік тому +20

      Wasn't it NZXT who had fire starting risers?
      Also, hey Z0eff 👋

    • @im_godness7990
      @im_godness7990 Рік тому +3

      Got a Gen4 GPU, Gen3 Riser and Gen4 Mobo and got No Problems at all🤷🏻
      B550 I Gaming
      RTX 3070 Strix
      Lian Li Q58 Gen 3

  • @freehugzhere865
    @freehugzhere865 Рік тому +292

    I love when the editors have fun with the videos and add goofy stuff. Makes me smile every time 😂

  • @JarNO_WAY
    @JarNO_WAY Рік тому +2121

    Ah yes, an Asus motherboard with an X3D. Definitely the most stable of gaming rigs in the modern day.

    • @Darkmaniak86
      @Darkmaniak86 Рік тому +50

      rn with the 1410 bios should be safe, you lose OC functions and you are capped to 1.3v but at least it doesn't void the warranty anymore

    • @asnaeb2
      @asnaeb2 Рік тому +262

      @@Darkmaniak86 the cap doesnt work lol

    • @Stavroization
      @Stavroization Рік тому +331

      This was also most likely filmed way before the news was out

    • @stingrayslapper1595
      @stingrayslapper1595 Рік тому +16

      Was thinking the same thing

    • @nathanlarson6535
      @nathanlarson6535 Рік тому +105

      ​@@asnaeb2And ASUS will probably void your warranty anyways because they will just delete that BIOS version from their website too lol

  • @ligitstrawberry
    @ligitstrawberry Рік тому +420

    As a mechanic I laughed so hard when linus swept the screws to the side if you do that in a shop you might get hurt

    • @MechAdv
      @MechAdv Рік тому +44

      I once had a helper “reorganize” the bolts I had laid out by subassembly on a work bench for a particularly heinous engine rebuild. If we had an HR department back then I would’ve been fired on the spot for the hateful language that spewed involuntarily from my mouth.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 Рік тому +10

      I remember when there were only 3 screw types in PCs and you could buy mixed bags of spares.

    • @randomxaos
      @randomxaos Рік тому

      This explains why I always have so many screws left over

  • @johndoe9450
    @johndoe9450 Рік тому +2

    Good thing you remembered the segways. Don't wanna miss out on commercials inside the 21 minute commercial.

  • @brianguerino5499
    @brianguerino5499 Рік тому +229

    Linus is being ballsy for using a ROG itx board with his 7800x3d right now, lol.

    • @droidbird
      @droidbird Рік тому +6

      fr

    • @leonro
      @leonro Рік тому +49

      Yeah, I know this must have been recorded before the full story came out, but I'd have appreciated some mention such as "we are professionals, do not use an asus mobo at home".

    • @SkullHandy
      @SkullHandy Рік тому +6

      He won't say anything about asus/amd because they went hard with amd "upgrades". And no showing it between bits in WAN show where fewer people will see is not really adressing the problem

    • @ultratronger
      @ultratronger Рік тому +19

      @@SkullHandy yeah, because when they were doing intel upgrades they NEVER said anything bad about intel cpus and their wattage and temps, right?

    • @Bulldawzer
      @Bulldawzer Рік тому +2

      Pre-recorded.

  • @sonnyboy2340
    @sonnyboy2340 Рік тому +225

    This has the same energy as Adam's tech upgrade. Love it

    • @mjdevlog
      @mjdevlog Рік тому +1

      nah his gf/wife brings more chaos than this

  • @Reurbo
    @Reurbo Рік тому +8

    I used to build only full tower cases, but recently realized (after longer than I'll admit) most of that space is going to waste because I'm not using a full tower as intended. My latest build was going to be in a micro case with an mATX motherboard and I almost went with the Jonsbo D31 in the mesh white ($90 and would be my first white pc build), which is very similar to the one used here, but ended up doing the HYTE Y60 (a mid tower) in snow white and absolutely love the build even more. I was very concerned with the thermals of an i9-12900K in the D31 even with an AIO liquid cooling and was a bit disappointed most micro cases didn't have a glass side panel.

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 Рік тому +1439

    At the rate Nvidia is increasing the size of their GPUs, I’m worried that even this case will become useless in a few years.

    • @dennisheusschen7273
      @dennisheusschen7273 Рік тому +76

      Amd,intel?

    • @orenraveh1162
      @orenraveh1162 Рік тому +42

      ​@@dennisheusschen7273 Lets Not Talk About Them

    • @ATLsF1N3ST91
      @ATLsF1N3ST91 Рік тому +40

      ​@dennisheusschen7273 those literally don't matter to most users buddy. Sorry to break the bad news to ya

    • @kg132465
      @kg132465 Рік тому +83

      You'd just have two small cases, one for the gpu and one for everything else 😂

    • @tkji
      @tkji Рік тому +114

      ​@@ATLsF1N3ST91 amd gpus are better price to performance

  • @chefboird9995
    @chefboird9995 Рік тому +38

    The crew comments are some of my favorite bits bc no one else on production scales like this don’t let the people behind the scenes interact like these guys do

  • @evanjrowley
    @evanjrowley Рік тому +75

    I love inverted cases. So hard to find and honestly that's an injustice. Thankful for smart case designers like this.

    • @potatopotatopotatopotatopo8746
      @potatopotatopotatopotatopo8746 Рік тому +1

      I bought the O11D Evo literally a few hours ago just because i want a white inverted case

    • @BeRawg
      @BeRawg Рік тому

      I had an old Lian-Li PC-V1000 case that did something like this. Loved it.

  • @The5Studio_
    @The5Studio_ Рік тому +44

    If you are thinking about recreating this build, i’d recommend not using an ASUS motherboard because the over current protection is faulty and the BIOS that fixes it voids the warranty. Watch Gamer Nexus’ video for more detail on the problem.

    • @theplanetarian
      @theplanetarian Рік тому +1

      That and for some reason Asus insists on making their itx rear io shrouds extend past the itx form factor.

    • @Murgeri
      @Murgeri Рік тому

      "BIOS that fixes it voids the warranty."
      False.

  • @SegmentW
    @SegmentW Рік тому +49

    The genuine excitement in how awesome the engineering must've been to design that case was awesome to watch

  • @MD-zf5yy
    @MD-zf5yy Рік тому +2

    Warranty stickers are not only not enforceable, they're also illegal under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act in the US. The FTC has sent out warnings to companies about this and technically you could report any manufacturer for it.

  • @vSparq
    @vSparq Рік тому +71

    Nothing gets me going like SFF cases! Love seeing you guys covering this on the channel! More please!

  • @veganmonter
    @veganmonter Рік тому +10

    As someone who has long haired pets who I value more than most people, I appreciate the desire to make sure your system is easy to clean. I have a calendar reminder to remind me every month to "peel" the fur off my computer's filters.

  • @minibeyse
    @minibeyse 10 місяців тому

    9:22 best course of action is to get IPA (isopropyl alcohol), use tweezers to get it off while adding ipa from the side and thel letting the ipa on the sticker evaporate. After a minute the glue will stick again and you can place it back. The trick is to be careful with the tweezers in the beginning not to damage the sticker at the very start

  • @casperunnerup
    @casperunnerup Рік тому +10

    I really wish there would be a micro-ATX version of this. The motherboards are usually cheaper for the features. Provides an upgrade path for more RAM and other expandability. This would only require a small bump in height

    • @michaelpyle
      @michaelpyle Рік тому +2

      Dan Case has the A4-mATX in development which is basically a slightly larger version of this. But who knows when/if they release it

    • @davidskidmore3442
      @davidskidmore3442 Рік тому +1

      I just built a minor variation on this (7700, rx7900 xt) in a Silverstone Alta G1M. It's a micro-ATX case, but assembled vertically (the 'rear' ports are on the top) so it's got a small footprint, and average mid-tower height. GPU ends up facing the front panel, so the LED-lit fans on mine shine through the front mesh. As a bonus it supports normal dual-tower air coolers, so no need for water or radiators.

    • @casperunnerup
      @casperunnerup Рік тому

      @@davidskidmore3442 I've seen the Alta too. It is so close to being great too. But I don't like the look of it and like the open top due to liquid spills. Where I could put the C4-SFX upright in the same position as the Alta to close of the top

  • @TheChrisD
    @TheChrisD Рік тому +7

    10:34 Not only Andrew, but the entire island of Ireland has just facepalmed and blacklisted Adam from ever coming here.

  • @GFDthatsMe
    @GFDthatsMe Рік тому +1

    12:06 linus mentions some cables i brought up in 2 or 3 videos that would help every sigle person that uses the nr200p max and this motherboard. It is the only way you can have sata drives in that case.

  • @l3v1ckUK
    @l3v1ckUK Рік тому +77

    I wish Fractal would make a micro ATX version of the North.
    The normal North is quite big.

    • @BarnabyFWNightingale
      @BarnabyFWNightingale Рік тому

      @@initial_kd it’s still big for an SFF lover like me… I also would love an ITX or mATX variant!

    • @Standoffmuffin
      @Standoffmuffin Рік тому +2

      ​@Initial_KD mesh side panel is the best version you can mount an aio on the side.

    • @FastSloth87
      @FastSloth87 Рік тому

      They did it for the Torrent, I bet they'll come up with smaller North variants soon (maybe Computex?).

    • @christopherjames9843
      @christopherjames9843 Рік тому +2

      MicroATX is the read headed step child. It isn't popular enough to warrant much effort on the part of motherboard or case manufacturers.

    • @v0ldy54
      @v0ldy54 Рік тому

      @@christopherjames9843 then why does Fractal make a MATX version of pretty much every case they make?

  • @benjaminvolk8517
    @benjaminvolk8517 Рік тому +12

    I've recently build my rig in the Dan-A4 H2O and I am still impressed by the quality and overall concept of their cases.

  • @dumpsterdawg
    @dumpsterdawg Рік тому +23

    Linus: "Why do you want to choke a horse??"
    Because it is a night-mare

  • @wielku
    @wielku 11 місяців тому +1

    The fact this case wasn't restocked is sucha a damn shame

  • @martijnvdijk
    @martijnvdijk Рік тому +78

    Who was aware that Dan from LTT had a sidehustle in designing PC cases as well?
    It represents his genius pretty well tbh.

    • @perun
      @perun Рік тому

      not the same dan. the dan case is from a german forum member of computerbase

    • @ducksonplays4190
      @ducksonplays4190 Рік тому +5

      @@perun I guess this is what they say r/wooosh is for?

  • @SeijinSA
    @SeijinSA Рік тому +7

    Using a Dan A4-H20 with a 5800X3D and so many features it included were just as nice as this. And I can see so many more new improvements between that case and this newer one. Even if ITX is charged at a premium it is amazing to just see it all fit and work while remaining quiet.

  • @Phanbot01
    @Phanbot01 Рік тому

    The Meshroom does have the ability to adjust the space needed for the gpu so the removal of the gpu shroud wasn't necessary. If you use an AIO with the lcd, the mounting position of the radiator blocks it's view and renders it useless. Case does have a leg up on the FormD T1 with the size of the gpus you can put in it.

  • @Zonker66
    @Zonker66 Рік тому +18

    Love the build... and the unconscious screwdriver flip at 2:45... he didn't drop it! Also, I cringed when Linus brushed those screws aside. Glad their was a lesson to be learned there. Respect another's workspace, Linus!

    • @blacknova555
      @blacknova555 Рік тому +2

      It was a pretty clean flip too.

    • @Zonker66
      @Zonker66 Рік тому

      @bruh I think he mighta put a few points inta int and tech... just a few...

  • @daniels0987
    @daniels0987 Рік тому +6

    Love the Summit Ice t-shirt. Never forget ✊

  • @Zack_Wester
    @Zack_Wester Рік тому

    19:07.
    another reason I don´t want to have to hope that the pieces will fit in the case.
    This feels like one of them cases that have a short list of kits that will fit in it and if you want to change a piece down the line in a few years good luck finding anything that will fit.

  • @Okand2
    @Okand2 Рік тому +4

    I've had an A4 since 2018 and I've been really happy with it. The build experience was like you're describing here, it gets out of the way and you kinda forget you're doing a small form factor build. It just goes together really nice and easy.

  • @9php
    @9php Рік тому +11

    You should check out another interesting case: Mechanic Master C28.
    At 17.9L it's one of the smallest cases that supports both micro-atx mobo and atx psu at the same time. Just like the dancase in this video, nearly all of its panels can be unscrewed for easier building. It supports 240mm AIO or an air cooler up to 162mm. It also supports a 335mm graphics card.
    I got mine from aliexpress last year and it was a very fun build, especially squeezing in my giant msi rx 6950xt gaming x trio.

    • @ericchen5862
      @ericchen5862 Рік тому +3

      wait til the m1evo comes out lol

    • @johnuzoka6124
      @johnuzoka6124 Рік тому

      Nah I have the ZZAW C2 case and it supports MATX mobo + ATX PSU at the same time. And GPU length upto 323mm and the case is 13.7L total

    • @9php
      @9php Рік тому

      @@johnuzoka6124 thanks for letting me know! i edited my comment so it just says "one of the smallest" since yours is smaller. for my purposes, i still prefer the c28 because it can fit taller air coolers and my gpu is 325mm so wouldnt fit in the zzaw c2.

    • @9php
      @9php Рік тому

      @@ericchen5862 unless im mistaken, m1evo is an itx case. the reason i suggested c28 is because it fits all regular micro-atx parts so you dont need to pay extra or lose functionality for itx/sfx parts

    • @johnuzoka6124
      @johnuzoka6124 Рік тому

      @@9php also theres the SAMA IM01/Techware Fusion
      It's 21L with more compatibility compared to zzaw c2 but I'm not sure of the cooler/GPU allowance

  • @jamiebarber8362
    @jamiebarber8362 Рік тому

    I mean, I'm so OCD that I cut & re-soldered a bunch of cables and heat shrunk them on the back of my current rig, just so as to get the cable management spot on; also heat shrunk around the motherboard headers to hide coloured wires etc so they're invisible. I LOVE this video for so many reasons though, they're having genuine fun working it out, I used to work in the games industry and would build the latest, smallest build for trade shows or press demo tours of our games etc (I learned this the first time I went to E3 and had to strip a midi tower down, including it's PSU going through customs). So this just brings back SO many happy memories.

  • @Evie0133
    @Evie0133 Рік тому +46

    I freakin love Mini-ITX, so compact and unique, it genuinely helps with space constraints and rare situations when I need to move it around :D

    • @ZacharySound
      @ZacharySound Рік тому

      Your god damn right. Hell yeah.

    • @clays32
      @clays32 Рік тому +1

      i prefer mini-DTX because its just as compact but you can fit more stuff onto it.

    • @d9zirable
      @d9zirable Рік тому +3

      He definitely should have gone with a different mobo vendor though

    • @MMasterDE
      @MMasterDE Рік тому

      Did one for the wife. Never regretted it.

    • @awolsam
      @awolsam Рік тому

      ITX is fun for seasoned PC building enthusiasts, it is where most of the progress in case design/layout/innovation happens :)

  • @hesthatguy
    @hesthatguy Рік тому +85

    I love the dynamic that Linus and Dan have.

  • @Rzn8B58
    @Rzn8B58 Рік тому

    I admire the small case sitting here looking at the nv7 under my desk that couldn't fit on my desk without blocking my 8 inch studio speakers. That little case would perfectly fit in between my screen and my speakers. I salute you!

  • @GL1TCH3D
    @GL1TCH3D Рік тому +4

    Watching you work in that case definitely helps highlight the ease of building in the more standard ATX options. Otherwise FormD and many other SFF look great. Only thing I wish is more would have a handle for portability.

  • @ryancholmes
    @ryancholmes Рік тому +5

    I really like these small form factor builds. I've never built a small form factor myself though...I usually build in mid or full tower cases. Could you guys do a video on how you go about selecting components for a small form factor build and ensuring that everything will fit in the case (theoretically)?

    • @califa213239
      @califa213239 Рік тому +3

      Pretty straight forward honestly, most ITX cases only fit SFX PSU, ITX motherboards, and the showcase on the website will tell you what size cooling and fans will fit. Oh, and also consider the GPU won't always fit for a three-fan or higher-end GPU. There is virtually no way to make a blanketed approach to ITX as each company deals with it differently.

    • @rogeraustin7185
      @rogeraustin7185 Рік тому +1

      @@califa213239 Also almost all product listings - especially on the manufacturer's website - will give dimensions. Case manufactures, esp in SFF cases, will usually give max length/height/width dimensions for GPU slots. I still try to undershoot a tiny bit so I don't have to do like they did in this video and partially disassemble the case.

  • @gl1tch8
    @gl1tch8 Рік тому

    did something similar to an NR200P build I did a few years back, I had a spare bottom panel from another nr200 so I flipped the bottom panel with the feet to the top then flipped the whole PC over, put the second bottom panel on the other side and had dual radiators in that tiny thing. Also I cut the back panel out(right above the motherboard) so it fit a 120mm fan right above the mobo

  • @benjaminoechsli1941
    @benjaminoechsli1941 Рік тому +12

    One day, I'm going to make a SFF build with just an APU. Love to see innovation in the space. Just like I love seeing episodes with Adam! He knows what he's doing, and isn't camera shy. Great match for Linus.

  • @maistho
    @maistho Рік тому +4

    I have the ncase m1 which is a very similar size. Going to a LAN party I could just put the computer in my backpack with my keyboard and cables which was super convenient. SFF is a hassle to maintain but well worth it

  • @DynMads
    @DynMads 4 місяці тому +1

    Linus; Big PC Cases are DEAD to me
    Also Linus; Builds literal server racks of computers for home use.

  • @chrisglasser1777
    @chrisglasser1777 Рік тому +4

    I can only imagine the horror on that poor lad's face when he said to scrape the foam off a Guinness. smfh.

  • @insparks782
    @insparks782 Рік тому +4

    I'm running a small form factor system and I thought my Formd T1 was my ultimate case, but this one is just so good. I was settled for keeping my current rig for the next year or two but this is kind of lighting a fire in me to make another build now.

    • @xXRusheR90Xx
      @xXRusheR90Xx Рік тому

      Same for me xD
      Probably it might not have the build quality of a T1, but i like the layout and I wonder if you could go watercooled with two rads, like in a NR200 but smaller…

    • @insparks782
      @insparks782 Рік тому +1

      @@xXRusheR90Xx The problem with the T1 is I just didn't anticipate GPU's becoming quite as huge as they have. I mean, a 4090 is doable with a custom loop but the T1 has kind of reached its limit. Which is a shame because I like it so much.

  • @NINEx7x
    @NINEx7x 11 місяців тому

    @16:00 You can fit an ATX motherboard and a Full length GPU in the meshroom S case.

  • @Jordan.C
    @Jordan.C Рік тому +6

    SUMMIT ICE. never forget

  • @CrackyCreates
    @CrackyCreates Рік тому +7

    the more linus videos you watch the more brute force you use in your builds

  • @jlirving
    @jlirving 9 місяців тому +2

    LINUS @11:56 But what does the switch do? How could you do this to us? Who do I send my complaint to? What kind of serial killer does that kind us cut. Leaving us hanging!

  • @royalrepublican3480
    @royalrepublican3480 Рік тому +15

    guessing this was recorded before asus boards blew up every X3D cpu

  • @_kaisetsu_
    @_kaisetsu_ Рік тому +34

    I've been using Lian Li O11 Air Mini for a while now and it's one of the most aesthetically-pleasing and fun cases to build

    • @anmolchauhan9513
      @anmolchauhan9513 Рік тому +1

      I am actually going for that for my next build. Looks very fun and pleasing and cool (?)

    • @moortu
      @moortu Рік тому

      Me too bro!
      It's not as small as those cases, but it's a damn pleasure to work in

  • @mrjiggs8
    @mrjiggs8 Рік тому +1

    Only issue i've seen with these cases are temps... and not CPU or GPU but the M.2 the heat from the GPU fries the m.2.. i have no idea why to this day they still put the m.2 right behind the gpu where all the heat comes off...

  • @Superburtclub
    @Superburtclub Рік тому +31

    I love Adam and Linus videos. The chaotic energy is unmatched

  • @atcatpl
    @atcatpl Рік тому +3

    Now you should compare mid 2000s case against modern pc cases and see if pc cases improved over the years

  • @ErikLtz
    @ErikLtz Рік тому

    Small is nice (even in a big house) - built a 10 liter desktop using Lian Li PC-Q03B many years ago - still alive with upgraded SSD and now a small RTX 2060 card - also the NR200 chassi is (was?) a little bigger at 18 liters and very flexible but most recently built a 33 liter machine using Asus Prime AP201 chassi (RTX 4070, Ryzen 5900X, 4 memory modules) and its so much more convenient with a little more room for everything inside - including more air 😊

  • @mangaas
    @mangaas Рік тому +11

    Biggest change I've made with my last 2 builds is actually getting bigger, open, full-tower cases. Makes your thermals never become an issue again. More space, more airflow, quieter fans for a cooler system.

    • @MarkoVuckovic32
      @MarkoVuckovic32 Рік тому +2

      Yes but some of us are working with limited desk space. Basically the largest I can do is microatx

    • @elevul
      @elevul Рік тому

      ​@@MarkoVuckovic32 put it on the ground then

    • @MarkoVuckovic32
      @MarkoVuckovic32 Рік тому

      @@elevul yeah, that's an option but most cases nowadays have a window so if I put it on the ground, I can't see inside.

    • @Blinkhs1
      @Blinkhs1 Рік тому +2

      I can't even put it on the ground, sff cases are killer for dorm rooms

    • @ARH0101
      @ARH0101 Рік тому

      Fractal Meshify 2XL gang !

  • @beowulfbelmont2578
    @beowulfbelmont2578 Рік тому +7

    I love my hulking beast that required me to source a desk with a slot big enough to fit it (barely), but it's still really cool to see these smaller form factors being fleshed out and developed.
    I'm a big case for life stan, but this is great for my smaller case brethren!

  • @meh78336
    @meh78336 Рік тому

    I like ITX, but I also like my Huskies, and the 2 don't mix when you have to clean the PC regular due to fluff and dust. I did it for my gaming PCs for a few years, 3770K, 4670K, 4790K, 6700K and "recently" my oid 9900K 2080ti when I upgraded to 10900K/3080ti, but even with replacing cases as I went (Coolermaster Elite 130, Bitfenix prodigy x2, Aerocool DS Cube, Silverstone RVZ01 and RVZ03 for the 9900K) the only thing that seemed to make sense was get a bigger case which made it seem more sense to just go ATX for the same price with more features in terms of the mobo and case. I do have ITX for HTPC mind you and Retro PCs (I used the 3770K and 980ti in the Elite 130 for my XP Pc and picked up a Shuttle XPC along with a 3.2GHz P4 and 9800 Pro for 98SE (with a DVI to HDMI adapter) as with the retro PCs, it just makes sense to keep them small as then they won't be in the way and get put away instead of being bulky and in the way and then to big to be worth getting back out once put away (which is the fate of most people I knows 98/DOS retro PCs).
    I do swear by building an ITX HTPC in the InWin BQ656 though, yeah its cramped but its cheap and has all the extras that may be handy like a slim optical bay (for the DVDs when the internet is down) and card reader for when that relative wants to show you pictures you don't want to see and you tell them you aren't on facebook or any other social media :D).

  • @aspenshadow7920
    @aspenshadow7920 Рік тому +3

    Fractal Design Ridge is still my favorite bc the amount of desk real estate it takes up is absolutely miniscule and you can get similar thermals. Maintenance is also easier bc everything is in its own chamber. Plus it just looks classy.

    • @11-1LOVE
      @11-1LOVE 10 місяців тому

      i absolutely love the terras aesthetic and I wish I could build in it, but the dealbreaker for me personally is that it doesnt support radiators :/

  • @timduck8506
    @timduck8506 Рік тому +9

    Keep a backup of the old BIOS just in case you blow the CPU as the latest BIOS void's your warranty.

  • @TheHottabych23
    @TheHottabych23 Рік тому

    I've used White Cooler Master NR200 for my build. It's 18.25L case, looks nice and clean on my desk. But man, it fits Arctic liquid freezer II 280 AIO (the radiator thickness is 35mm, regular AIOs has 25mm), 4080 FE, R9 5950X (I built it before Ryzen 7000 series has come out). It's almost silent, idle CPU temp is 33 degrees Celsius, overclocked 100% load about 81. Without overclocking 100% load never above 71 no matter for how long.

  • @cryyptick
    @cryyptick Рік тому +9

    I've loved Adam on screen since his AMD upgrade, love seeing him on camera with Linus.

  • @captblankwhite3879
    @captblankwhite3879 Рік тому +23

    Hi Linus I know you read comments, Just want to say that your content drives me to strive to do better everyday

  • @Jdbye
    @Jdbye 9 місяців тому

    The NH-D12L is a good cooler, I got one and it cools the 5800X3D well. Absolutely a great option for SFF cases like this. I'm just a bit worried about the air flow since the way the D9L and D12L mount it won't be able to draw air in directly from the outside in this case (or probably any SFF case) the way a top flow cooler or liquid cooling would.

  • @lateral1385
    @lateral1385 Рік тому +15

    Linus plays his part so well. Love Adam as well. Can't wait to see more of him.

  • @tzuyd
    @tzuyd Рік тому +3

    0:13 Fire the editor for not using a rectangular tick box.

    • @cds124ful
      @cds124ful 5 днів тому +1

      @@tzuyd they did, a square is a rectangle

  • @telumatramenti7250
    @telumatramenti7250 Рік тому +1

    I'd still go with larger cases with tempered glass panels. For one thing, - they are a joy to assemble, very easy to clean and maintain, have dust filters, you can still have your USB3/USB C ports on the top of the case, and they look much nicer, especially if you intend to put RGB fans etc. in them. And you're not going to have a "Godda&^t!!" moment when you've spent so much time assembling your case but your mobo won't post as you push the power switch. Now I honestly don't know what advantage do smaller cases have unless you intend them to be portable or have just moved into a condo the size of a closet in the middle of London. But even then you should just go with a PC imbedded in your tiny desk.

  • @harryle4143
    @harryle4143 Рік тому +5

    If only there were more SFF options for us MATX users. 😢

  • @RageRaccoon
    @RageRaccoon Рік тому +9

    Adam and Linus have a great synergy.

  • @DannyNguyen56
    @DannyNguyen56 Рік тому

    I'm looking at the background throughout this video and was wondering if you guys can do a thorough run down of how you guys manage and organize all of the tools, computer components, going through your thought process when you do the layout, what works and what doesnt, which organizing storage containers you guys used and why you guys stuck with what you got now. I have so much computer tools, components to store Ive been looking on ideas for the past couple years but havent found anything usabale.

  • @VidalMoon
    @VidalMoon Рік тому +8

    I love Small Form Factor PCs. I'd love to see more videos like this!

  • @MrPruske
    @MrPruske Рік тому +4

    some things never change. a lot of these parts are being sold by scalpers now right after the vid went up. i saw that psu a couple days ago, now it is about 400 on amazon from a 3rd party. XD good vid, also good budget itx case imo is the qbx by cougar

    • @catwesker1576
      @catwesker1576 Рік тому

      that's hilarious bro, i have a cougar mx200 modified it myself, cut a piece of plexiglass and put it on the side and put some cheap lights in it. rx580 8gb, i7-4790, 24gb ddr3, 700w psu, h97m pro 4 mobo, the whole damn build was $550.00, looks awesome and rocks 2023 games. people fr just be silly with this stuff now, me just sittin and smh lol.

  • @christianlandmark2461
    @christianlandmark2461 Рік тому

    My trick for warranty stickers is to take the bad boy out, and cut out a new sticker using a blank thermal shipping label and an xacto knife. Its brand new adhesive so sticks great, works everytime

  • @j.d.8593
    @j.d.8593 Рік тому +4

    Linus: "Let's pair this 7800X3D with an Asus motherboard"
    Steve on the other side of the continent: "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE' 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ChadKenova
    @ChadKenova Рік тому +4

    Small builds are cool looking but can be infuriating. Something is always in your way and you have to take 3 things out to get one thing.

  • @G.r.e.g.g.l.e.s
    @G.r.e.g.g.l.e.s Рік тому +1

    "It'll blow more air at lower volume"
    *Earthbound music plays*

  • @kevinrucuch4652
    @kevinrucuch4652 Рік тому +4

    Is Linus wearing a Pebble Time Watch?

    • @d_vzion
      @d_vzion Рік тому +1

      I was gonna write this
      99% sure

  • @JSharpie
    @JSharpie Рік тому +7

    So what's next? A race to a smaller case chipping away nanometers like how speedrunners chip away milliseconds?

    • @Definitely_Melnyx
      @Definitely_Melnyx Рік тому

      This is far bigger than most SFF cases. It’s design is just unique.

  • @owenspiva
    @owenspiva Рік тому +2

    Unfortunately, you can't even purchase this case. It's been sold out since before it launched, and the website says to wait for the v2...

  • @WlZLA
    @WlZLA Рік тому +2

    13:20 - Linus turns into a Minecraft Villager

  • @HyperScorpio8688
    @HyperScorpio8688 Рік тому +7

    Not gonna lie, as cool as SFF is
    I'd not be willing to deal with the hassles of building them and then worry about any repairs. At least not for a daily driver.
    ATX mid tower still wins to me

    • @one_step_sideways
      @one_step_sideways Рік тому

      Just get a Sama IM01 or IM02 case. It's literally NR200 but has perfect support for both ATX PSUs and mATX motherboards, making the total build cost a lot cheaper too. It's only a tad taller than NR200 to support the mATX motherboards and the 4-slot cards, compared to NR200's measly 3-slot design.

    • @kse617
      @kse617 Рік тому

      Think about it this way: hassles are just fun challenges for SFF enthusiasts.

    • @Definitely_Melnyx
      @Definitely_Melnyx Рік тому

      If you’re not disabled there is nothing to worry. It is barley harder than a regular pc and even as a first time build not that hard.

    • @RolandsSh
      @RolandsSh Рік тому

      mATX is fantastic as well.
      I have an all AMD build (7700 and 7900XT) in Asus AP201, and it's amazing. Building in it was easy and fun, it has great cooling and compatibility, is significantly smaller than ATX tower, components aren't hideously expensive.

    • @HyperScorpio8688
      @HyperScorpio8688 Рік тому

      @@kse617 I get it
      Here's the thing tho
      I'm not an SFF enthusiast, so that hassle is a red flag to me

  • @Icyblade01
    @Icyblade01 Рік тому +7

    I miss micro ATX being mainstream ;(

  • @davidasteed
    @davidasteed Рік тому +1

    I get the appeal for small form factor...but my every-ten-years-self-build-gaming-rig Shall Always Be A Full Tower With Glass Panel. The room to move about while building the thing is totally worth it. Otherwise the beauty sits in a single place for virtually it's entire lifetime. The few times I need to update it...again I have super tons of room to move around.

  • @TheAwakenHD
    @TheAwakenHD Рік тому +5

    Using an Asus motherboard good one @Linus Tech Tips

  • @th1jzzz531
    @th1jzzz531 Рік тому +7

    Asus motherboard and X3D… that can’t go well.

  • @noonenoesbutme
    @noonenoesbutme 11 місяців тому

    Quick technical correction about the board standoffs being riveted..
    Also, my credentials:
    I'm a senior level mechanical engineer for a technology company where I design image processing computers, and most of design work is sheet metal design... (My YT profile pic is from 2010... Please ignore lol)
    Sheet metal parts can be riveted together, but fasteners / hardware such as standoffs, nuts, keyhole guides (keys), spacers, studs, etc are actually 'self-clinching' fasteners. These fasteners have a special geometry at the base which is larger than the hole in the sheetmetal. Using a hydraulic press they are forced into the smaller mounting hole. This causes the base of the fastener to mushroom out a bit and curl into the sheet metal like little hooks.
    The high pressure from the press allows the metals to flow together even though it's at room temperature. The result is a very precise, and incredibly strong connection for a fastener into thin sheets of metal - while also being significantly less expensive than a weld or other manufacturing techniques.
    The 'Apple' of self-clinching fasteners (which all my designs use) is Penn Engineering with their PEM line fasteners. It's one of those companies you've never heard of - but you have have hundreds of their products in your house, quietly hidden in your daily household items that contain sheet metal parts.
    Thanks for coming to my TED talk :)

  • @fmh357
    @fmh357 Рік тому +4

    Great video showing off the DanCase. You two are hilarious together. Fun just to watch all the good natured banter. Linus, you are a bit mischievous 😆 Keep it up.

  • @matejjakopic7797
    @matejjakopic7797 Рік тому

    16.55 lake Bled in the background 😂
    Great video.
    Now you can pack it and I am writing for it 😊😊😊

  • @MrJayyPlays
    @MrJayyPlays Рік тому +4

    Seeing Adam's shirt makes me exceptionally happy, love the repping of an apparel company that acknowledges the holocaust.

  • @leone2386
    @leone2386 Рік тому +5

    I love Adam, I really do. His extreme tech upgrade made me laugh my ass off.

  • @191.
    @191. Рік тому

    8:07 When I was building a PC with this MB, the SSD *BENT* on me too. So that is quite a theme here, I supose.
    And if I remember it correctly, *BOTH* SSDs *BENT*.
    So, if anyone interested in this MB is reading this, I would strongly suggest an SSD with an included heatsink. Or adding a custom heatsink to your SSD, that will "wrap it" up to re-enforce it from all sides. Not to mention, it, most likely, will look and perform waaay better. But *only for the top SSD*, that is. You can't really do anything about the bottom one. Unless you can get really creative, I guess.

  • @NoTalentTalen
    @NoTalentTalen Рік тому +4

    Appreciate how Linus lets his staff look smarter than him

  • @sahelhossain7601
    @sahelhossain7601 Рік тому +6

    Seems like a wasted opportunity not to have Dan co-host the episode building in a Dancase 🤷

    • @ryanj610
      @ryanj610 Рік тому

      I feel like the audience loves Dan and Linus can't stand him (or at least his snark)

    • @sahelhossain7601
      @sahelhossain7601 Рік тому

      @@ryanj610 if that's the case then why does he let Dan do the Wan Show?

    • @ryanj610
      @ryanj610 Рік тому

      Because Dan does great work. Linus gets too exasperated sometimes, unscripted I feel. Just look at the Christmas album clips, hah