No Way Home: What Happened In The Other Spider-Men Universes
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
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Look I was skeptical but now forget about it. I want Nic Cage’s Ghost Rider and Eric Bana’s Hulk just crashing through every multiverse portal. Send them all in. With the newest instalment of the arachnid themed hero saga instantly jumping into any sane person’s top ten MCU films, to say it didn’t leave some questions would be a gross lie. I have literally all the questions. However, today let’s start with what has been happening in Tobey and Andrew’s separate worlds since we last saw them? And what is going to happen now that they’ve been through what I would assume would be a life changing experience. Let’s take a look right now!
I’m just going to call them by their actual names, because let’s be real if I call them all Peter Parker we’re going to be more confused than Ned. That being said, I could watch these three heroes just have a conversation for two and a half hours. These conversations revealed so much about what has happened to our heroes since we last saw them. Tobey found love, Andrew found more heartbreak, and both have kicked some form of butt. What are you certain that Andrew or Tobey have gone through since the conclusion of their film franchises? Did Andrew compete in the X Games? Did Tobey start a chiropractic practice for people with severe back issues? Leave a like, subscribe, and comment to let us know! Also if you’re considering going to Dr. Strange for literally anything, you should probably start reconsidering.
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0:00 Intro
0:39 Andrew Garfield’s Coolest Villains
3:56 Tobey Maguire’s Coolest Villains
5:50 Love Life
7:32 The Future of Branched Timelines
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Do you think we'll see any of those characters again?
Hopefully in spiderman into the spiderverse 2
Definitely
Maybe Andrew's villians
Is there any spilers in this video?
I think these all cured characters will be captured and pruned by TVA 'cause they were meant to die and being cured and being alive will defy their fate.
What do you say....
Imagine we get to have Spider-man 4 starring Tobey Mcguire and The Amazing Spider-Man 3 starring Andrew Garfield, continuing their stories by in their own separate universes.
It would be nice
they deserve it
Yo it would be amazing
Yeah Sony make it work!!
I wouldn't even be mad 🤷♂️🤣 I say do it
I loved Tobeys interaction with Otto after he was cured it was so sweet to see Otto admire how much Tobey had grown
Same here. It’s very wholesome.
POV: Otto is talking to you, who was a kid at time of Spiderman 2
@@DrRhyhm oh damn 👏
@@DrRhyhm I was already 19 when I saw the movie so no
@@SuperHns Kid is subjective,Doc Oc said to Peter all grown up and met him in his 20s just like you were.
The whole theatre clapped when Toby and Andrew came on , we wanna see more😂
I must be in a uncultured theatre coz we were literally screaming when Tobey and Andrew arrived
@@avikshitbasak7556 My theatre was even more uncultured because the moment he stepped through the portal I was like ANDREW. But the rest of the theatre didn't scream until he unmasked himself.
I clapped alone, people were boring lol
@@lloydthesage1164 at least you have honor
@@lloydthesage1164 I wanted to clap but I didn't want people looking at me like I was crazy or something
Seeing Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield again brings me so much tears of joy. Spider-Man 4 and The Amazing Spider-Man 3 deserve to be made now more than ever. 🕸🕷😭😃
Soy boy
Maybe this movie is the stepping stone for those two movies🤷♂️
With their own versions of the avengers
@@dustinmartin8735 nah that would be too complicated and unnecessary
@@m7mdalrajhi725 but imagine it was like tobey maguire hugh jackman and all the old movies that would be sick but that probably would never happen
Even though Tobey's Spider-Man looks older, he still got the moves.
I understood that reference
His back is even fixed xd
OH BOY YEAH!!!
An older Lion is still a Lion kid
Stings, doesn’t it?
Andrew saving MJ was just.. amazing. I sobbed
It really let me down tbh. Was way too quick and not enough dramatic tension in it besides prior knowledge.
@@dreworyan5652 did you see the guy that mad a fan one on youtube with the slow-mo and cut between MJ & Gwen, they should’ve done something more like that as I agree it was way too quick and it’s a blink and miss moment which really decreases the emotional aspect of it
The only part where I actually cried in the movie
It was a good fanservice movie
Sobbed? Damn.
Andrew and tobey haven't seen half the stuff Tom has yet they took the multiverse so good and still kinda mentored Tom because they quickly understood he is just starting and is young. Instead of asking so many questions they came, helped, and left.
I wish there where a scene where Tobey tells Tom that “whatever battle we have raging inside us, we always have a choice” as his best friend Harry taught him that in Spider-Man 3.
@@a.jthomas6132 there lines seemed too simple. Their reactions weren't how you would expect them to react. Seems like they focused more on fan service rather than actual deep lines and story writing. They were too okay with even the fact Ned and mj knowing they're Peter Parker. Un real reactions and too many nostalgia aiming scenes
Because they are spiderman not tony stark junior.
@@o.i.c.uvanish9169 fax
@@CaliJose209 because they had already learnt what was going on, they were in their universe for a whole day and they already learnt as well that ned and mj were peter's friends before their on-screen meeting
It’s still extremely impressive to me that they managed to bring back EVERY SINGLE original actor in the last 20 years for this movie.
Edit: *Just found out Conners and Flint were reused scenes from previous movies and they didn’t manage to actually get their actors. Kinda sad about that, but it’s still impressive how they managed to fool us.*
Minus Tasm2 goblin and Topher Grace
@@JohnSmithsu2006 Thank god.
@@sneakernickel lol
Kirsten Dunst: Am I a joke to you?
@@AdamSmith75th We didn’t need 2 MJ’s too
Tom’s Peter: “I don’t wanna brag, but I was in the Avengers.”
Tobey’s Peter: “That’s awesome! What is that?”
Andrew’s Peter: “Is that like a band?”
"I don't want a brag, but I will"
My 2nd favourite scene just behind when Andrew said he loved them
It's actually Tobey Parker that's very kind to appreciate without knowing what it actually means lol... remember how he appreciated MJ for her performance too much even tho the she wasnt doing good for her coach ..
@@BushidoBrownSama "we always have a choice."
Haha that was pure gold!
I like how no way home gave us an insight into how Andrews spiderman dealt with Gwen's death. How it effected him as a person and as Spiderman
Exactly he said his SPIDER MAN , became bitter after Her Death… So I’m guessing that could be a reason why they stopped on that Spider Man Story
@@Harrizist he also said he stopped pulling his punches so maybe we got a J Jonah Jameson fever dream of Spider-Man
Affected
@@Boomy2nicce no way is there a source I smell baloney
@@marinecaptain2674 Andrew literally said it in the movie.
The way Andrew looked after saving MJ, it was heartbreaking. You could tell that he was happy to be able to get some semblance of a second chance. He was nearly crying.
I love Tobey, he made my childhood with him playing Spider-Man
I must be REALLY old, but Nicholas Hammond was my childhood Spiderman. I am disappointed that he didn't at least have a cameo
By the way Tobey's spidey works in NWH, you could see he's a veteran Spider-Man, but sadly never worked together in a group of superheroes all his life.
Once, with Harry for like 5 mins 😅
I think MCU is pretty much a live version of the classic comics,where all sorts of superhuman beings,deities, etc exist next to humanity.Magical and outrageous things are a daily occurence there.
Whereas in the Sony and Raimi spiderverse,I always got the impression that they were more like a 'what if people in the real world occasionally develop super powers' type deal.In their worlds I think having those kinds of powers is so rare,that there aren't enough of them to form many teams (villians or heros).
Notice how most superhumans in Sony/Raimi verse are science experiments or technology gone wrong.In other words a more realistic version of what could create a superhero or villain in real life.
Whereas MCU has Space tyrants wearing cosmic gloves and wiping out half of humanity,or sorcerors opening portals to alternate dimensions.
Or literal gods like Thor being part of hero teams etc.
Notice how shocked Raimi and Sony Spidey was to find out that magic existed in the MCU.Something like that must be completely foreign to them
@@richiefranklin76 very true still enjoy the mcu in general but what you basically just said is honestly why I prefer the Raimi movies over almost all mcu flicks haha
A universe with no other heroes in America or space that came to Earth, a dark timeline indeed
@🛑 STOP🧢 Just asking, how exactly do we know that a Dr. Strange exists in the Tobey universe? My memory fails me
I hope their would be a continuation of Tobey and Andrew’s spider-man.
I am hoping for a remake of Spiderman 3 and Amazing Spiderman 2
Spiderman 3 should only have venom and fully embrace the horror aspect of the symbiote and have a buff tough comic accurate Brock with more character,Sandman is great but he didnt fit in the universe at all turning into sand because he was put inside fast moving sand is too ridiculous.
Amazing Spiderman 2 should simply not have the Harry crap and have the Electro we saw in No Way Home
@@newhybrid101 Not remake but a Spider-Man 4 and The Amazing Spider-Man 3
i don't think Tobey wanted to be Spider-Man again. Idk, I think NWH is the last time he became a Spider-Man. Maybe just Andrew's Spider-Man??
@@patriciakarenlo he won't reject that much money after all
@@patriciakarenlo i don't think so, he always wanted to make Spider-Man 4. And also his performance in NWH had this same Raimi movie type in style.
Also it was leaked that both are likely to return. Tobey not in his own movie though.
That be funny if Andrew Garfield still denies it 😂
😂
“Yeah I’ve seen the movie aaaaand it’s a photoshop”
I'd like to see The Amazing Spider-Man 3 and Spider-Man 4. I think Tobey and Andrew both earned it.
Absolutely :)
Yeah at least give us some closure with these two. Spider-Man 4 could be like the darkest timeline where Tobey's Peter is now an adult, and is starting to fight more dangerous and less cartoony villains.
@@megaman37456 We DID get closure with Tobey's Spider-Man. His trilogy ended with all subplots wrapped up and in No Way Home it was mentioned that he and M.J. managed to stay together and make things work after we saw them begin to reconcile at the end of Spider-Man 3. While I would LOVE to see his story continue in more movies, it's not like we were left hanging with his version of the character. I would welcome a Spider-Man 4 with HUGE open arms, but it isn't absolutely necessary.
TASM 3 makes more sense to do, but I don't like that iteration of Spider-Man...so I personally don't wanna see it. I am content to let that version be. Unless they hire somebody else to direct and write it.
I hope Tobey comes back to acting.
He has a movie coming out so he is.
He has a supporting role in Damian Chazelle's upcoming movie "Babylon"
Rumors of Spider-man 4 being in development at sony currently the idea is to have an animated film starring Tobey Maguire.
@@JohnSmithsu2006 so Spider-Man 4 by Sam rami but animated and voiced by Tobey?? Why
@@TEEANVEE most likely it would take place a few years after spider-man 3.
The way they brought back Electro and gave him a new look since people didn’t like his old look and patched up all the holes and actually explained why he looked different and that he was self-aware of it was honestly perfect.
*Props to Marvel man!* 👏👏
What was the explanation for Electro? The different energy?
@@TheCharlesJackson new universe, new look. That's the cheap explanation they gave into the movie
@@the_iurlix good enough for me lol
@@the_iurlix whole movie seemed to be cheap explanations 😂
@@prochokepoint994 😂 ya. Gotta make the fans happy tho.
Legends return. Tobey Maguire, Willem Dafoe, and Alfred Molina as well as the rest of the cast gave stellar performances for sure, but it was the redemption of Andrew Garfield's spiderman that really sold the movie for me. I loved those movies and seeing the three Spidermen meet each other and work together as well as the Matt Murdock cameo is a real Christmas miracle. Spiderman no way home is a cinematic masterpiece for me.
My ONLY regret about the movie is that we didn’t get the Sinister Six like we were expecting. But still a 10/10 movie and easily one of Marvel’s best yet.
Technically we did have sinister six showing up on mcu. It's just that the last one was too busy getting drunk at mexico
@@laudadraka259 😢👌🏿sad asfuk
@@laudadraka259 well technically vulture would be considered sixth member since he was teleported to morbius/venom universe.
I agree no sinister 6 was a massive disappointment, but this ain't a 10/10, don't get me wrong, it's great, but just not 10/10
@@laudadraka259 nah,
Sinister 6 is them teaming up to form a villain of 6,
If that doesn't happen, it's not Sinister 6
I really liked how Amazing Spiderman (Andrew) saved MJ on no way home and was in so agony that he was not able to save his Gwen. :(
Speaking of Gwen. I wonder what happened to her. Did she just wake up under that clock tower and wander around for 12 hour before retuning to death.
@@saturnianrings3920 at some point while watching movie i thought both Mary Jane and Gwen will show up.
@@thakuriprakash9428 Speaking of people showing up, are there just a bunch of people who new Peter Parker waking the streets?
2 uncle bens, possibly 2 sets of parents, 2 aunt mays ect. Guess we’ll never know
Toby's Spiderman is the only one in that group who's married 😆
@@christianhenry4173 he did say it was complicated tho. And at the end of Sp-3 he and MJ were taking a break.
When tobey maguire entered, everyone in the theatre had dirt in their eyes.
noice lol or at least that's their excuse 😹😹😹
Tom and Andrew: **Shoot webs from web shooters**
Tobey: **Shoots webs out of his wrists**
Tom: 👁👄👁
Andrew: 👁👄👁
Tobey: “Wait, can y’all not do that?”
After seeing how Spider-Man No Way Home ended, I want to see Tom Holland's Spider-Man next appear in other MCU movies and Disney Plus shows when he's not busy with his studies or anything else.
He might make an appearance in hawkeye's finale since he lives close to where the finale is supposed to take place and the movie ends on Christmas like hawkeye. And the fact that the movie got released a week before the finale shows it all. However, marvel will need to point out the spoiler and ect so idk.
@@aaryanair896 well Hawkeye is about to air soon.. so let's see
@@Zanoladab rip
@@Zanoladab Ah, the negotiator.
A new campaign needs to be created for fans to see a new solo Spider-Man films for tobey and Andrew, which should help us as fans to explore deeper of the aftermath of their previous films.
Do you think we will find out what happened to them in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness?
Maybe, well i dunno sam raimi is directing it. It doesn't seem impossible.
@@videodeposu8741 I feel like spider man 2 broke up with Mary Jane
Yup. The watchers in the cracks told you a story hint
Well, we didn't. Lol
Tobey Maguire is the Peter Parker of Into the Spiderverse. In NWH, he seemed to be the quickest to understand he was in another universe, as he immediately started looked for the MCU Universe's Spider-Man
Interesting theory
Nah he just saw j Jonah Jamison saying shit about him with the picture of Tom everywhere
That's ridiculous but ok
@@iamabotdude5545 Exactly, he even tells Ned and Michelle he had seen them before
Yeah he feels lige the OG spiderman from ITS. Same complaining about age, same reserve to answer "personal" questions (he acted like talking about his organic webbing was more private tha it shoul be). What we got was pretty much Live Action into the Spiderverse. Since they estabilished the multiverse already i hope Miles will pop up in one of the universes sooner or later. I diliked him in the comis for some time but in Into the Spiederverse he was great. He deserves to be in a movie even as a sidekick for starters.
I never thought endgame could be surpassed but this movie just about did it
@@Raccon_Detective. Who?
@@Itsnoahscott
Sorry, wrong person.
Endgame wasn't even a good film, infinity war was much better.
@@Drazorig2 infinity war is easily the best movie they’ve made so far. I know endgame is how he’s defeated in comics, but seriously, endgame felt riddled with plot holes and like a fan service even if it’s how the story goes. It was so great to see a villain’s backstory and seeing them ultimately achieve their goal.
its not even a fair comparison, infinity war>>> end game
I loved how they took advantage of the memes " I'm something of a scientist myself" and " My Back" such classics
Sony! Bring us Spider-Man 4 with Sam back at the helm and The Amazing Spider-Man 3 with Webb. You opened the Pandora's box, it can't be stopped, it's self-sustaining now!
Not with Webb, let's get real here both tasm movies were not good. And Tasm 2 was beyond bad, it was a mess. It wouldn't be wise to make him do another sp movie.
@@videodeposu8741 I personally liked TASM2. Ok sure it's not as important that Webb does TASM3 as Raimi for SM4 but I feel like the studio got involved back then as well and put too much in that movie. But I think it would nice for him to finish the trilogy. Watts finished it and the first two "Home" movies were worse than Webb's in my opinion. Anyways, let's not dwell on the disagreements, one final Raimi/Tobey movie would be a gift.
I think they will introduce Andrew Garfield as spider man in their universe , with Tom Hardy venom and morbius
@@AlexandraM689 But Vulture is there too
Correction: Get Sam Rami back for Spider-Man 4 and let him have total freedom over it. The reason why Spider-Man 3 didn't live up to its potential is because Sony kept interfereing and forcing Rami to put Venom in the film, a character he wasn't totally confortable with using. Sony also kept moving the date up for Spider-Man 4 completion, which was last straw for Rami, leading to its cancelation.
I don't care what anyone says, Tobey was and will always be the best Spider-man
Amen. Tobey is THE Spiderman.
I like Andrew, and Tom. But Tobey is on top for me.
Ironman jr better
to me Tobey was a better Peter and Andrew was a better Spidey
@@wills.8662 exactly, and Tom managed to find balance between the two
I like to think that to perserve the efforts of the 3 Spider-Man curing and depowering the supervillains, Dr Strange altered the return spell so that when everyone returns to their respective universe, they are also sent to the same timeframe corresponding to whenever their respective Spider-Man came from. Meaning that if the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man that appeared in No Way Home was 5 years after Spider-Man 3, his 3 villains would come with him to that time instead of like during Spider-Man 1 to 3. And if Andrew Garfield Spider-Man came from like 2 years after Amazing Spider-Man 2, Lizard and Electro would also be returning with him then rather than during Amazing Spider-Man 1 and Amazing Spider-Man 2 respectively.
Norman should actually hate being depowered like he did in the comics, and then get Carnage making him Red Goblin would be dope. More Dafoe as Norman Osborne is always welcome.
I think what actually happened is it created 5 new branch universes where each villain was cured, and at least partially reformed.
And I'd prefer an alternative version of the Tobey we see in NWH got to have a reality where Norman is prosecuted for his crimes and he and Harry remain good friends. And Aunt May and Peter take Harry in as emotional support and he begins reforming his father's business into one of charity rather than destruction, and Osborn industries becomes that universes F.E.A.S.T.
@@fg009letyrds8 the whole idea of the Green Goblin and Norman Osborne having this pseudo Jekyll & Hyde type of mindset stemmed from the 90s Spider-Man The Animated Series. Its safe to assume that The Rami films adopted that interpretation in their 1st film with No Way Home following through with it and making it work.
@@aidand.7911 while infinite possibilites exist, its a headache to think about all the routes that can occur imo. I say that all the villains end up in their universes future post their original deaths mainly because it feels like a simplified outcome, but to each their own.
@@deadpoolrockz6410 Green Goblin is still Osborne's dark side, just pushed out by the serum. They can easily just make Norman Osborne lament of his powerlessness after experiencing being a superhuman and plans to take his powers back.
Every older person in the theater surely applauded Andrew and Tobey. Bravo!
I hope we can continue Tobey's story in a Disney Plus Marvel TV series. Can be a 4 episode miniseries giving us an update of what he's been up to before and after NWH.
Petition this is
He goes back in retirement
Sony wouldn’t let that happen
Nah we need a movie. It's only right to have him start and end in a Raimi directed movie. Also, Sony not letting that happen lol MCU already making dollars of Tom Holland no way they add Tobey to that.
Sony owns *Spiderman* Will never happen, BUT, I did hear rumors that Tobey's Spiderman 4 might be created with the animation team from into the spider verse. Just a rumor!
would be super cool if they did a shattered dimensions show on disney plus that explored more of Toby and Andrews current Peters
In the movie after Strange messed up the spell he explained to Peter what happened. Then Strange says that everybody that knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man is coming to their universe. I know that goblin, doc Ock, lizard, sandman, and electro know who he is but venom doesn’t. The Tom hardy venom didn’t even know that Peter Parker or Spider-Man was a person until he was brought to the MCU. He even says in the post credit scene, “maybe I should go to New York and talk to this Spider-Man.” So if he doesn’t know who Spider-Man is why is he there?
Because in the post-credit scene from Venom 2 the symbiote tells Eddie that he's linked with all version of Venom across the multiverse, meaning that Venom knows about Peter Parker from other universes, for exemple Eddie/Venom from Spiderman 3
I can’t remember, but didn’t Topher Grace’s Venom know Peter’s identity? If so then so would Hardy coz they’re all linked in a hive mind across the multiverse. This is what he said at the end of Venom 2.
@@CrysisTube right when I watched the venom post credit scene I could barley here it and just saw them in peters universe
Electro don't know about peter identity
@@rijusnar5910 he had his eyes open when Gwen said Peter
Spider-Man 4 and Amazing Spider-Man 3 deserve to be made right now
Since Andrews Peter was really fascinated that the multiverse was real I wonder if he's gonna try to do more research on it and try find an alternate version of Gwen. I know that the original story for TASM 3 was gonna involve him finding a formula to bring back people from the dead. But that could be rewritten to multiverse stuff instead. Plus it could involve a team up with Venom since he was also transported to the MCU for a bit.
We need the 3rd movie for Andrew Spiderman. Hell we need more of Andrew's universe to be explore such as - we need to see his version of MJ, Felicia become Black Cat, the Sinister Six that clearly been hype up at the end of the last movie, Hardy's Venom finally meet him and lastly, after experience multiverse, his research end up meeting alternate Gwen who became the Spidergwen. So much potential to do with Andrew's universe.
MJ was supposed to be in TASM2 they shot scenes and deleted them from the final movie so he has a MJ in his universe 🕸🕷
I would love to to see more from Tobey and Andrew as Spiderman.
Theory: Doctor Octopus was still holding Iron Man's Arc Reactor when he went back, and somehow uses this to stop the machine without sacrificing himself. An imprisoned Doctor Octopus giving some words of warning coming from experience, to Emo-Peter, about his suit twisting his mind and making him more evil would have been a powerful scene that might have affected the plot of 3
I love that andrew goes down a more punisher like route, they did way more justice to him than I could’ve ever imagined. now that’s a movie I wanna see: andrew’s spidey turning into a punisher-like spidey, that would be so fire
Honestly, if Andrew's dark Spiderman bonded with Venom, he could not recover from it without someone forcing him to. So it is safe to say he didn't encounter Venom.
You can say Peter M. Parker (Tobey Maguire), Peter G. Parker (Andrew Garfield) and Peter H. Parker (Tom Holland).
The moment they realized the multiverse could bring these characters together. Definite high five “hell yea let’s do it, this gonna be awesome”, moment
Andrew's Peter is so awesome I'd love to see more of his Spiderman while he still can pull it .
I'm just gonna point it out that in NWH, Tobey's Spider-Man acts more like a mentor would. Showing tricks, motivating people, picking them up when they feel so down and out. Perhaps this version of Spidey also met his version of Miles Morales? I know it's a stretch but the potential is there.
Tbh I think Tobey appearing in a trio of movies introducing and establishing Miles Morales would be the best thing the MCU could do
@@savievere9759 aye. I would love to see it.
I feel like it was Andrew's universe that may end up getting the Miles Morales. They kind hint it when Electro mentioned it could be a black Spiderman out there and Andrew just smile. Plus, we know that Hardy's Venom take place in the same universe as Andrew. Idk, maybe after the success of NWH, Sony might finally make The Amazing Spiderman 3. I mean seriously, Andrew deserve his third movie. From his version of MJ, Felicia become Black Cat, the Sinister Six and Hardy's Venom - there a lot of potential to be explore in Andrew's universe...not to mentioned, Spidergwen. Imagine, after experience multiverse in NWH, Andrew Spidey actually do some research about it, and end up meeting alternate Gwen who become Spidergwen
I think Andrew may have went more of a "Mark of the spider" route than a punisher route, permanently damaging his enemies but not actually ending their lives.
"So are you going to fight in a suit or go dressed a cool youth pastor?" - Andrew
The idea that this is all part of the larger MCU now is, well, AMAZING. If there is ever a team-up on the level of Endgame, who else can we expect to show up from the larger Marvel movie pantheon?
I want more of Tobey. If a 64 Willem dafoe can Play Green Goblin, Tobey can do a fourth movie
he can go all the way to 6
of all the new videos covering this movie... this is my favorite!! nice job!!
Imagine Tobey And Andrew’s Spider-Men didn’t make it back and ended up in another universe together, starting another movie called, “Spider-Men: The Multiverse”.
Best movie I've seen in awhile, nostalgic, growing up with Toby as Spider-Man.
I’m sure we will get a “what if” episode about all this
I wanna see Tobey again in the mcu!!!
dang spider-man really carrying the MCU rn
I have a theory about Ock. He returned, but due to him being in full control of his arms at this point, after falling in with the machine Otto managed to use his arms to help propel him out of the water, and saving himself from what was his assumed fate.
I think it safe to say that Doc Ock return to his timeline alongside Tobey, Goblin and Sandman after the event of Spiderman 3. Because Dr. Strange clearly saw what Tom has done and appreciate it. Let say Tobey come from the time of 5 years after Spiderman 3, then that is when all of them return back to Raimi's timeline.
I think when Norman was sent back into his universe it was that scene when he was on the floor and Harry runs in saying “what are you doing on the floor??”
“Last night I was……I don’t remember”
Regarding when they return to, I think both Toby and Andrew were bought over from the present day of their universes (2024). I don’t see why Andrew would be lifted from anywhere in the past, like the villains.
its heartbreaking to know that after TASM 2, Spiderman was lost after Gwen died and became bitter. id like to see a movie during the years where he stopped "pulling his punches" and he treads the line between Spiderman and Batman, but at the same time i feel like its deeper if it never gets shown on screen
I really thought Peter was gonna meet Harry Osborn at the end of the film since he lost all his friends. That way he could finally be established in the MCU and that would finally fix the question as to why Tom’s Spider-Man is the only one without a Harry Osborn. But they didn’t introduce him so I guess he’s gonna come in later. But I just find it weird how neither of the Spider-Men actually mentioned Harry’s name seeing as they talked about everything else. I mean it’s not they DIDN’T bring him up when creating this film since they pretty much almost established everything from the other films. I trust Marvel and hope they know what they’re doing.
Didn’t Norman say someone else was living in his house and there was no Oscorp? Maybe the deal with Sony doesn’t allow MCU Osborns.
This film proves that Marvel knows what they're doing
Tobey told Ned about Harry. That's why Ned got paranoid that Tom-Peter might kill him someday. There's no Oscorp in MCU, so it just drastically changes things. Tony stark is the big name in advancement. But since he's gone now Oscorp has a chance.
The "O's" actually stand for Osborne and Octavius though so they'd have to commit to wanting to bring in multiple old characters. I don't think it'd be the best move, but they did pretty much reboot the series by the end, so who knows.
If Ned and MJ are completely out the series then I wouldn’t be opposed to Harry and MJ or Harry and Gwen
@@davechan8613 In the MCU universe there was no oscorp, But there was a Stark Industries, tony stark existed.
stark created fusion core which led to many advances in technology. doc oc tried to do it his way and failed and in garfields universe oscorp was working on genetic manipulation.
I mean if Electro is cured Harry will not be able to get the Spider cirum without him and Gwen would be alive!!
But electro was pulled right before his "death"(to me, him dieing basically because of electricity is kinda silly, as it's ELECTRO xD figured he'd just have to piece himself together like Ultron did waking up in avengers 2 or like in nwh at first lol), now if he was pulled during their first encounter, I'd get that idea lol
@@thejonbrownshow8470 both villains in TASM2 was done so poorly that without the death of Gwen, the movie would be considered horrible.
@@attilaseyfullah8522 and without nwh now and Garfield himself lol
One of my minor issues is that Tobey didn’t seem to react about the lizard being Curt Connors, I mean that was his college professor
Well not his Curt Connors remember? Plus he doesn't even know because it was Tom who fight Lizard at the end. Even if he know, it doesn't give much of reaction because it is not his version of Curt Connors.
@@shawziiz5031 it’s still a familiar name drop. Also doc ock should have recognized him as they were close friends apparently from the dialogue in spider man 2. Even if it’s not his Connors there was absolutely no reaction as if he was a total stranger. If a hobgoblin came and said his name was Ned Leeds would tom’s Peter not react to that in any way shape or form, even a minor one? All I’m saying is there could have been a single line referencing the name connection
@@BayAreaRushHour Still, is not their version of Connors. So no point try to have a conversation between them when the likes of Doc Ock and Goblin was there, the actual threat that Tobey has faced.
@@shawziiz5031 I mean I guess. I’m sure you could say that Tobey’s Peter can logically assume there would be similar people in all of the spider men’s lives that share the same name. Still would have nice to have had some acknowledgment.
@@BayAreaRushHour It still not their version of Connors
I think no one is gonna know who peter parker is in there universes because doctor strange told Tom in no way home that people all over the universes know that peter parker is spiderman that mean that the spell worked in all universes so the spell for them to forget who peter parker is must've affected their universes too
I don't think it's exactly that, I may not remember the movie well though since I saw it only once. I believe the other universes will still remain intact because the spell only affected the MCU earth so when everyone there forgot then the other people from the multiverse just stopped coming to the MCU earth
Yeah but they are peter parkers too lol, that's a different case
Nope, it only affects the MCU universe, Tom Holland's Peter Parker only remains unknown.
The first spell pulled all the villains into Hollands universe because they knew Peter Parker was spiderman. And the breaking of the universe would have pulled more people who knew. So they chose to delete the memory of the people across all universes so that they wouldn't be pulled to Tom Hollands universe. So yeah, this last spell must have affected the other universes.
your mom still gonna remember me doe
Andrew Garfield should get a third Amazing Spiderman movie where Tobey Maguire reunites with him in a hilarious guest cameo appearance.
Tobey Maguire should get a fourth Spiderman movie or miniseries where Andrew Garfield reunites with him in a hilarious guest role appearance.
I think everyone forgets about the spell Dr. Strange casted. It made everyone forget peter parker, which likely ruined tobey’s peter and mj’s relationship, since mj wouldn’t have remembered who he was.
I like to think Norman returned to the point right before the glider hit him.
"Oh..........."
No way home is and will be the best spider-man movie for years to come ❤️. Even if we get 5 more actors for it
No it's not
Tobey Maguire's films are far better
@@mackmenezes4912 box office numbers have ya wrong there
@@SigilOfAletheia you wrong Tom Spider-Man is feeding off of Toby Spider-Man
@@SigilOfAletheia 🤦🏻 what a fool nowadays the reputation of spiderman is way more becoz of how well tobey maguire's films were
That is the reason why people can efor the movie expecting the return of tobey maguire ,but the writing of the movie was so damn rushed and stupid that this movie will be easily forgotten
Spider-Man: No Way Home is the stepping stone to make the impossible become possible, with the Spider-Man crossover was a dream come true it’s definitely positive that both Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield will share the spotlight to have more Spider-Man movies and deserve second chances. We need Spider-Man 4 to have Tobey come back and feature more villains in his universe like Vulture as the main villain, Black Cat, his universe’s mysterio and The lizard. As for Andrew he also deserves the long overdue and he is the more darker version of the character we need the Amazing Spider-Man 3 too showing other villains they teased to appear and he mentioned that he just stopped holding back and was more angry and aggressive it would be interesting to see just how it happened but after saving MJ redeeming himself and connecting to his fellow Spider-Men he’ll finally become the hero he was destined to be
Thanks I watched SP3 last night I was lost thanks for reviewing this was very hopeful
Nah fr I wanna see Nic Cage's Ghost Rider again that craziness brought a lot to the role.
Doc Oc could still be alive: he took the arc reactor back to his timeline with him. Anything is possible.
Ghost rider would be sick
I just watched this and boy some would say, this was amazing
Another thing about Norman’s timeline is that this version of norman is more or less aware of what will happen to his universe’s versions of Otto and Sandman so he may be able to tell it to his Peter preventing the incidents
His is probably the best timeline out of the many we’ve seen
I actually think the final fight between Tom Hollands Spiderman and Mcquires Green goblin might have been symbolic in more ways then the surface appearance.
Holland ended up beating the shit out of Goblin and almost killed him for murdering Aunt May.
I think something similar happened with the Andrew Garfield Spiderman and his Green Goblin (harry osborn)
Andrew talks about giving into rage and not pulling his punches when Gwen Stacey died.
Unlike Hollands fight I think Garfield might have actually beat Harry Osborn (Goblin) so savagely for killing Gwen,that he actually killed him.
Also notice how MCU M.J almost died in a similar manner,where Goblin tried to prevent Peter from saving her
I think the first part is a reference as mentioned in the movie as well to Tobey killing uncle Ben’s killer
Nah nothing timeline wise has really changed (from what I interpeted) for Tobey outside of sandman. Just because he's there doesn't mean he was picked up from SM3. He never died so it can be at any point in that world future. Probably the same day as Toby was grabbed, at a time where his mutation condition had worsened (which could be why he's made of sand without much human form, which call me crazy but when I hear sandman I lowkey expect a man made of sand) Id imagine Norman was sent back right to the point of him being hit with the glider. In the 2001 film I believe its when he says "Oh" is the point in which he came back, with the realization that "oh yeah, this happened". And ock was put back right when the sun fell upon him. Not giving enough time for a branch to hit a nexus point. Andrew's timeliness however has branched all over the place.
But who knows, just grabbing them all within itself created infinite branches For TASM and FNSM.
#makeTASM3 #GiveUsSpiderMaguire4
Doc ock definitely took home the arc reactor, reverse engineered it and became a pioneer of sustainable energy
Best scenes in no way home (3 being least best and 1 being the best)
3. The start of the movie (the first 7 minutes or so), the tension and the camera angles made it feel like an uneasy reality.
2. When Green goblin killed aunt may, I cried. It was handled really well and you could really feel the emotion Tom put into the act, really well done with the acting.
1. When Tom Holland’s Spider-Man tries killing green goblin. AGAIN. THE ACTING, the whole feeling of Tom going evil and crazy felt so right and you can feel his hits on Osborne and everyone looking at him so weirdly was how we felt. Then Tobey coming to save the final blow, was golden. Tom still pushing for it felt really real. Man, this movie was far more than nostalgia. 9/10
1) At 5:38, you didn't mention how Bruce Campbell was rumored to cameo as Mysterio (like how he did as other people in the Raimi Trilogy)
2) What else do you thinks changed in regards to both Tobey and Andrew's their Aunt Mays?
3) Could their return in this film pave way for a revival of both their Spider-Men?
NWH was beyond amazing!!! I loved it
you sure about that?
Imagine how confused Tobey must have been when The Green Goblin just poofed away
What if this "no one remembers Peter Parker" spell carries over to the other universes. tobby shows up to greet mj and she doesn't remember him
That's a really good question! I'm guessing we'll find out in this video!
Tobey should give the baton to miles Morales and I hope Andrew gets another movie. After watching no way home I really think he's the coolest Spiderman
Tobey vs the Kingpin would be epic
Doc Ock had the Arc Reactor from Iron Man. He’ll be able to control the out of control fusion reaction when he gets back. He’ll be fine….
I really do hope that all villans are alive and happy
Just an opinion based on this video, (Trying real hard not to spoil)...
What I would love to believe that might have happened is:
1. Norman, Otto, Flint went back with their Peter in their universe at the point of time when Peter 2 was dragged into Peter 1's universe.
Basically saying that the main timeline (current/ present) at the same point where Tobey's Peter went back in. Let's say Raimi Universe in the year 2023, the point in time where every event in the Raimi Trilogy already happened years ago. The villains will come back in their respective universe but would be entirely new for them. Norman learning that his son is dead, Otto completing his Power of the Sun project, and Flint reuniting with his daughter. So no past will be screwed as they're all in their present timeline.
2. The same thing for Peter 3's villains, so there will be two Dr. Connors existing in the same period of time (One living in a prison "the main Lizard", the other will be hiding for his life "the one who went to mcu"). Electro finally celebrating his birthday as a normal human but on a run for the crimes he committed because this is still the point of time where their world believed that Electro died by a magnet. He cannot turn himself in because the world would think that resurrection is possible once he is captured and identified.
But ofc Peter 3 will help them out, they're all friends afterall.
I'm just saying this so I wouldn't confuse myself that they went back to change their fate or the past. I like to believe they went to their universe's present timeline eventually setting the story for the continuation of their movies. 💟💟
Damn boy the starting, you took my words
Thanks CBR for giving to us some information...
i think andrew should get spiderman 3 with morbius and harry and felicity jones as black cat. that would be fire, and trying to figure out what happened to his parents with oscorp and bring in venom and venom wilt and andrew spiderman darkness play off well in my mind . I think holland spiderman should get back his memories with MJ ( if they dont break up in real life) if the do they can introduce Gwen to the MCU and holland also have Avengers MCU phase 4 and Holland has Uncharted (he about to make money he blessed) so i think Tobey spiderman should introduce Miles Morales and have sam raimi to come back to direct it and finish the job , like regardless SONY and the MCU will make shit ton of bread off with spiderman while people are in poverty. So the least they can do for those fans is give them what they want most , more spiderman with different viillians lol
Let's be real folks.
The ideas of what is going to happen to these 7 guests once returned to their worlds is chief What-If season 2 material.
Raimi-Verse Peter - Eldest Brother
Web-Verse Peter - Middle Brother
MCU-Peter - Youngest Brother
All this while we thought the MCU started with Iron Man in 2008. Turns out it started with Spider-Man in 2002. That is officially now the first movie of the MCU.
If the upcoming Blade movie is a continuity and not a reboot, then the MCU officially starts in 1998.
Dr. Octavis might stay alive when he goes back to his universe. He might find another clever way to dismantling his machine and get help or rescued by Spiderman from drowning.
Oacar goes to
ANDREW GARFIELD
That thumbail is straight fire
BOY THOSE REFERENCES TOBEY MADE ABOUT HIS BACK! WHICH HE GOT FIXED BY ANDREW AND THEN SEEING HIS UNIVERSE`s VILLAINS, (Mainly Doc Ock) That INTERRACTION! AND THAT WEB SHOOTERS REFERENCE WAS GOLD! WE KNEW THAT WOULD HAPPEN!!!!
Cant wait to see this old Marvel Actors return in the MCU