I just want to say a big thank you so much for all your hard work. I have just bought the Presonus 4.5 speakers and I think they sound fantastic. I have been a so called audiophile for 45 years and I think the value for money with these is absolutely ridiculous. Years ago I purchased speakers that were a lot more expensive and didn’t sound as good. These are not just for studio monitoring but great for listening to music as well.. thanks again. 😊
Hi! Today we have ANOTHER comparsion starring Mackie, we compare Mackie CR4 with Presonus Eris E4.5. Mackie CR4 is slightly smaller and cheaper than Presonus E4.5, so let's check out which one is worth Your money. Presonus E4.5 in my opinion is much better build and finished, enclosure is more rigid as is the front panel of E4.5. Presonus also has extensive tone controls, You can control treble, midrange and bass levels in E4.5 to tune it to Your liking and Your room, plus it has useful low frequency filter that makes matching with subwoofer much easier. Mackie lacks any tone controls what so ever except for the general volume control. CR4 has slightly less audible hiss from the tweeters, but they both will be audible from a closup in quiet rooms while idling. Soundwise they are much closer to each other, sporting similar sound siugnature with just minor differences. The most notable differences are in the bass response and upper midrange. Presonus has deeper and more natural sounding bass with less mid and upper bass boost than Mackie. CR4 can be annoyingly boomy when placed on the desk. Regarding the midrange, Mackie has more forward upper midrange tha creates the feeling of clarity while Presonus seem to be more balanced betwen the upper and the lower midrange. Mackie also has a problem of lower midrange colouration and the resonant front panel of CR4 is the responsible one here. Presonus can play louder than Mackie without showing audible distortion. Overall I have to give a slight edge to E4.5 for it sound performance. As You probably already know Presonus is a better monitor in my opinion, not only it is much better build but it also has more natural and honest sound than Mackie CR4, so if You are in the market for studio monitors under 200 dollars than E4.5 gets my recommendation. If You can not stretch Your budget that far, than Mackie CR4 is still a solid proposition though. What do You think? Which one would You choose and why? Let me know in the comments below! Cheers!
I own a pair of CR4s and I really like them. Definitely used to them as have been using them daily for 3.5 years. Looking for a new pair of monitors and the Presonus sound great in this video. Seem fuller at each end of the spectrum. Mids seems comparable. Presonus have EQ adjustment features in the back which make them more interesting as well. Might just pick them up. Bass test was super cool. #excited
Mackie is much warmer and rounded, Presonus sounds harsh and tinny. Presonus seems to have slightly more bass, but the midrange just seem to be a bit empty by comparison. Thanks for this direct comparison, was currently trying to decide between the two. Listening on M1060 headphones through a Little Dot Mk3.
Went with the mackie. In person, they have great detail and overall balance once aimed. They sound great when turned down soft, and have descent bass when turned up. A clear step up from my old M-Audio AV40s. Thanks again to DS with this online demo.
Mackie sounds more precise, best response and warmer, I feel that the quiet songs in the mackie sounds very natural (the voice is awesome), in mid and high frequencies the winner is mackie, but the bass is some muddy. For metal and rock I prefer the mackie, I think if I buy the 4,5 the bass response should be better. I dont do material with much bass, so, mackie is better for me.
@@KarolDst well, that depends on the ear and if they used Silk and Kevlar as materials too (also wood). It also depends on how flat they actually are, thats bc of the EQ Mackie has on those frequencies i told you, it's totally different live because we don't really know how the monitors were placed for this video and the difference between what the microphone captures and what our ears capture. I'd say they're almost the same, Mackie does good in the mid-high range but that EQ from 75 to 95Hz aprox. May make it muddier on the low end. For just a little bit more you could get some KRK Rokit CI5 G3 wich are really good and go under 45Hz, it's a really low difference for a wider range and bigger monitor (just 1 inch)
@@KarolDst I've been a Mackie MR5 MK3 user for about 3 years now, just sold them today. Gotta say, once you test those Mackies you'll notice how good they do when they reach 45Hz, incredible balance, but not at all the same price. The CR4 may have that good definition, but i wouldn't trust it's capacities trying to get that 45Hz definition the MR5 MK3 have because it's not gonna be there. Editing low freqs and monitoring low end may become difficult, even tho i've never tried them the range is what i don't like.
Thanlk you for the vid! And thank to all comments down here, as a noobie it is great to have so many hints what and how to listen ... I go now with the Eris, got AKG 501 (listening your vid with them) , and the E4.5 sound really flat to me, with good defined bass.
Subbed - Great work. One suggestion. Have you considered adding a brief V.O. - 1 male, 1 female with no music to the test? Might be nice for those looking for Home Studio V.O. monitors.
They are pretty close but also different. It’s interesting how certain genres sound better on one or the other. Your mixes could end up being so different depending on which set you have. I liked the retro wave and the hard rock/metal one on the Mackie more but over all preferred the Presonus.
Yes you are right. I found real instruments sound better on CR4 and Presonus is a bit compressed and electronic music sounds better on them. I just bought the CR4 from a person as unwanted gift for £30 on ebay not arrived yet.. I think it is not a bad deal. I am curious what they are like. At the moment I have a pair of Numark, I think CR4 will be much better than them.
Thanks for this video. I don't know why I'm always looking for someone's opinion on gear. Really appreciate the completely unbiased "listen and decide for yourself approach". For what it's worth to anyone, what I brought away from this video is that the mackies sound a bit more like home stereo speakers. the presonus don't necessarily sound as enjoyable to listen to, but they for sure sound clearer and much more defined than the mackies. the low end on the mackies is a bit too boosted for accurate monitoring.
Out of these two, the e4.5 is more accurate and neutral and it passes more (useful) information/details for sound engineering, whereas the cr4 is more natural sounding, less harsh than e4.5. It would take some time to get accustomed to and accept neutral speakers and headphones (but then you will also start disliking bass focused stuff, like JBLs &Co. straight out of the box, with no EQ tweaking). So if you are just a listener, then cr4 might be your choice, but if you plan to work with the sound and recordings, the e4.5 would be a better choice here, imo. And, the e3.5 with a sub would be even better.
This channel is amazing your my for to audio channel amazing quality and no BS thanks for making such awesome videos.P.s the eris took a huge dump on the Mackies well done video ✌✌👍👍
I've had 2 sets Mackies cr4 die on me. Store replaced them every time but my latest set is now doing the same thing. The power amp gets fuzzy and then just dies.
are u fucking kidding me with this? who makes straight to the point comparisons like this anymore lmao you are awarded a LIKE my friend, fucking great video!
The Mackies have more bass but the presonus speakers have some of the clearest trebles I've ever heard (even though my hearing is down to 13khz peak) and i feel like the clarity of the treble and especially mid-range vocals trumps extra bass. WE got the Eris 3.5's and a subwoofer.
The Mackies have deeper bass, higher highs, but sound kind of scooped. The Presonus (which I own) do not have the deep bass like the Mackies, but still have nice punch, and much more midrange, with smooth highs. Also remember the newer Presonus have a Mid and a High control knob, an Acoustic Space switch for when the speakers are to close to a wall and a switch for use with a subwoofer; 60Hz, 80Hz, and 100Hz I believe. The old ones only have a Bass and Treble knob so watch for what you're getting. The Mackies, have no controls :-(
Presonus is flatter, allowing the highs to come through. Mackie seems to swallow the highs. Both sound very good regardless. Mackie bass sounds a bit muddier IMHO. -Jim
I have the same thoughts as you. In addition Mackie is more bass heavy tune. And to cover its very low bass performance they also tuned up 95 - 75 Hz band. this support the flatter Presonus. I also think Mackie "Mackie bass sounds a bit muddier IMHO. -Jim" same. Listened on 0bjective2+ODAC+HD650
One week in using CR4 in my home studio set up and finding these compact monitors not so compact in sound atmosphere amazing bass quality and clear smooth high end make these great to check out final mix noted bluetooth facility yet to try this angle out.I compose arrange make various genres of music from new age to jazzfusion dub so these need to fufill different dynamics and isolate quiet sections ,great all round monitor and music speaker.
Guys have to lisen New Orleans comparation min 4:50. The makie has a poor response in the mid-range range, maybe by the crossover circuit: the quality of the guitar is notorius. Presonus much better.
I prefer Mackie, more midrange, less hollow sounding. Presonus sound dry and digital. Some people may want that though. They have a lot of highs that's for sure.
I couldn't hear much difference in higher end. What I noticed is that bass sounds (not sub bass ) is a little forward in CR4 but tighter in E4.5 (could be from 90Hz to 150Hz). Thanks for the video.
I real good comparison would be to add the Presonus Eris Sub8 subwoofer, the combo between the Eris 4.5 in addition is killer! They clearly have much better high and mid end’s, adding the Eris sub 8 puts the combo over the top, a must for recording... Well done though, Thank you. The Mackie’s bass is just too muddy.
mackie cr4 is better. it is especially apparent at 'Dream a Dream' and 'full speed', the songs sounded very weak on the eris. the mackie overall has a more balanced sound
I wanted the Presonus to sound better because the Mackie looks ugly with that green. Listening on my headphones there is not much in it but the Mackie sounds warmer to me. Thanks a lot for the comparison.
How is the sound here right now i think the Mackie is better then other Presonus because the sound is more open and more clear.But i'm not sure if it's the true about what i felt on my ears from your video.
Listening in w/ my M40x. Presonus does does sound a bit more honest in projecting music. But the 80 dollar difference between the 2 is kind of a deal breaker *sigh. Its really tough working on a tight budget 😕
This is a great sound-off - but it makes the Mackie and PreSonus sound somewhat competitive. Let me just say, they're not even close. I had the Mackie CR4 then I got the Presonus Eris 4.5 BT straight after. Compared to the Eris - the Mackie's are like two dog turds wired together - they're sub-standard Chinese rubbish and they stink. Don't get me started on the massive overheating problem the Mackie's have - it matters not, they're in a class well below PreSonus. I'm absolutely blown away by the Eris 4.5 BT. Clean. Crisp. Perfect, without muddy lows and hissy highs. Everything in-between perfect - and that's all you need. I'm even thinking about going larger in the Eris range to handle my general listening needs. They're that good. It's all in the ear of the beholder, but make sure you listen to these things compared and don't rely solely on sound tests. You'll be amazed. Try a complex piece of music with complex sonic breadth - maybe some post-rock, Kids Will Be Skeletons (Mogwai)? God is an Astronaut perhaps - the Mackies get bogged-down and confused, PreSonus however is just clear interpretation and beautiful. I'll give the Mackie's some credit - they're a reasonable general listening set-up with warm bass and a broad mid-range. But that's it. Save your money and invest in PreSonus. You won't regret it PS: Do I have any affiliation with PreSonus? No. Nothing at all - I'm just very impressed I chose them.Thank God.
in on the verge of buying one of these 2 now..have been trawling for vids and the general consensus is the ERIS is better..i have hheard so many stories of Mackies failing, its disturbing!..I cant verify this but this issue comes up heaps in the reviews and forums..anyone here recently bought the ERIS 4.5s..would love to hear your thoughts.. cheers!
60hz difference xD I wish to see a review of the Presonus Eris and the Yamaha HS5, i know, its twice of the price but it budget real monitor, for what i've read on the net. Thanks for this quality test :D
@@DSAUDIOreview please tell me sir. presonus eris 3.5 or mackie cr4 ?? Which one should i go for... i need to proceed immediately... (it seems like i should go for Mackie cr4 instead of eris 3.5.... Bcoz eris 4.5 is expensive while mackie cr4 is less expensive). but i will get 4inch studio monitor.... Answer me please ???/
Mackie CR4 high-mids seem to be somewhere in the middle between Presonus 3.5 and 4.5 ... which is pretty logical, considering the size relation 3.5, 4, 4.5 :D So, 3.5 might sound a bit too shrill and "into your face" when it comes to voices, while 4.5 could be lacking some details in voices. Mackie CR4 is the "golden midway"... but who knows, how it would actually sound in my room with my favorite music...
Presonus one is almost 2 times more expensive than the Mackie in my local store. Do you think it will worth it? I know Mackies are actually multimedia monitors not exactly for studio but people say it gets job done. I'm so confused.
Love your channel - very helpful in buying my Eric 3.5's. Been trying to find that Long Drive cut you use. Can you share the source? Thx. Doh - I just found it on your channel site. Thanks for posting it!
in my taste mackie is better for metal geners, destrotion guitar more scooped and seperation of notes better so. eris is wider range 8n electronics geners , mackie is honest
you can notice a difference but I can't tell which one sounds better... I am not sure which one to pick. I am listening to Reggae and Dancehall most the time can anyone help me decide ?
Out of these two, Mackie for listening and Eris for mixing and mastering. The pair of Eris passes more information/details and is more neutral. You can still tweak both with an EQ to a certain extent, boost bass/roll off trebble f.i., but you can't add details, and clarity.
As a Rock guitarist I feel the Mackie CR4's have a little more punch and bring out the bass a bit more on Full Speed 7:05 I'm looking for my first set of monitors, and the Mackies sound like they handle rock and metal better (although i think CR5's are now the current gen) Nice Vid \m/
Presonus bass is deeper but very muddy, makie is much more defined and bouncy. the voice sound high tone both are the same however Makie is again the lower sound is more hearable, the presonus is flat. clearly the sound image is better on makie, presonus is less dimentional. Makie is cheaper and good buy compare with Presonus.
Depends on what you do. If you just listen to music, then, indeed, Mackie. if you record&mix, then Eris is a better choice out of the two. I had both and stayed with Eris. It has bass boost on the back side and you can tweak both with an EQ. What you can't tweak - details/useful information and that cr4 filters some out, which is well audible in this video. With that respect the e4.5 is better for mixing, projecting a cleaner and more neutral image. (Though the e3.5 with a sub would be even better, imo).
Hi, i have one question on you, in my country costs CR4 about 100 bucks and E4.5 about 180 bucks, is it worth to pay almost the double price for the presonus e4.5 (i mean, is E4.5 so much better than the CR4 to pay extra 80 bucks)? thank you very much for your time
Yepp, from what I can spot with my ears here, the Presonus are more according to my taste. They sound more true, especially in the mids. But at Thomann even the Mackie CR5 Bluetooth cost around 10 Euros less. So, really what's the point. They're not outstandingly better. Hard decision though if can't be compared at home!
Hello. I’ve heard both of them and they sound pretty much similar to me. Talking about looks and built quality I like the presonus. I would mostly be doing covers and gospel music. In my country the Presonus is 18k (rupees) and the Mackie cr4 is11k. Could you pls help me decide on one? Your answer is my final decision. @digitalstereophony
Any advise between this 2 for a budget on desktop table speakers for mostly acoustic music, female vocals and movies... with my price comparison: cr4 are 155 euros and Eris E4.5 are 235 euros. Do you thing for the price CR4 are a good buy?
The differenece in price is rather big and I would say to choose with Your wallet. I would probably go with E4.5 anyway, especially if You care about good bass performance
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@@DSAUDIOreview I mean it's just as pointless to compare speakers with that logic, it's always limited to what's coming out of their speakers at home. If the person already has a subwoofer, they'll be able to get an "idea" of what it pushes out just like with these videos.
thanks. I like a Lsr305 for mixing, and like s2000pro for listening and movies. i have both. They are great speakers! Lsr 305 have a nice mids, but bass is poor than Edifier, s2000pro hava a nice bass but mids is not good like in a Jbl's. What you think about it?
@@DSAUDIOreview Thank you for response, just got my new E4.5 speakers based on your videos, thank you for all the content you are creating, your awesome!
Are you kidding me? 5.1k subs? this channel deserves 100k subs. Pure comparison. No BS!
Thanks! I will be happy if You can share the info than ;) Cheers!
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Me from the future .. 2021 .. as of writing this .. 50.600 subs :)
7:06 test.. thank you for video
I just want to say a big thank you so much for all your hard work. I have just bought the Presonus 4.5 speakers and I think they sound fantastic. I have been a so called audiophile for 45 years and I think the value for money with these is absolutely ridiculous. Years ago I purchased speakers that were a lot more expensive and didn’t sound as good. These are not just for studio monitoring but great for listening to music as well.. thanks again. 😊
Hi! Today we have ANOTHER comparsion starring Mackie, we compare Mackie CR4 with Presonus Eris E4.5. Mackie CR4 is slightly smaller and cheaper than Presonus E4.5, so let's check out which one is worth Your money.
Presonus E4.5 in my opinion is much better build and finished, enclosure is more rigid as is the front panel of E4.5. Presonus also has extensive tone controls, You can control treble, midrange and bass levels in E4.5 to tune it to Your liking and Your room, plus it has useful low frequency filter that makes matching with subwoofer much easier. Mackie lacks any tone controls what so ever except for the general volume control. CR4 has slightly less audible hiss from the tweeters, but they both will be audible from a closup in quiet rooms while idling.
Soundwise they are much closer to each other, sporting similar sound siugnature with just minor differences. The most notable differences are in the bass response and upper midrange. Presonus has deeper and more natural sounding bass with less mid and upper bass boost than Mackie. CR4 can be annoyingly boomy when placed on the desk. Regarding the midrange, Mackie has more forward upper midrange tha creates the feeling of clarity while Presonus seem to be more balanced betwen the upper and the lower midrange. Mackie also has a problem of lower midrange colouration and the resonant front panel of CR4 is the responsible one here. Presonus can play louder than Mackie without showing audible distortion. Overall I have to give a slight edge to E4.5 for it sound performance.
As You probably already know Presonus is a better monitor in my opinion, not only it is much better build but it also has more natural and honest sound than Mackie CR4, so if You are in the market for studio monitors under 200 dollars than E4.5 gets my recommendation. If You can not stretch Your budget that far, than Mackie CR4 is still a solid proposition though.
What do You think? Which one would You choose and why? Let me know in the comments below! Cheers!
I bought a pair of Pre Sonus Eris 4.5's on the strength of this video. Glad I did, what an amazing sound! Thanks.
I own a pair of CR4s and I really like them. Definitely used to them as have been using them daily for 3.5 years. Looking for a new pair of monitors and the Presonus sound great in this video. Seem fuller at each end of the spectrum. Mids seems comparable. Presonus have EQ adjustment features in the back which make them more interesting as well. Might just pick them up. Bass test was super cool. #excited
have you gotten the Presonus now? how does it compare to the mackie IRL?
Mackie is much warmer and rounded, Presonus sounds harsh and tinny. Presonus seems to have slightly more bass, but the midrange just seem to be a bit empty by comparison. Thanks for this direct comparison, was currently trying to decide between the two. Listening on M1060 headphones through a Little Dot Mk3.
Which one did you get?
I also think the Presonus midrange seems empty. Mackie kinda nice.
Listening through hd650
Went with the mackie. In person, they have great detail and overall balance once aimed. They sound great when turned down soft, and have descent bass when turned up. A clear step up from my old M-Audio AV40s. Thanks again to DS with this online demo.
The E4.5s definitely have clearer sound but i almost like how much more beefy and in-control the CR4s sound
Mackie sounds more precise, best response and warmer, I feel that the quiet songs in the mackie sounds very natural (the voice is awesome), in mid and high frequencies the winner is mackie, but the bass is some muddy. For metal and rock I prefer the mackie, I think if I buy the 4,5 the bass response should be better. I dont do material with much bass, so, mackie is better for me.
The Eris' are clearer and a bit wider. Mackies are sharper but the bass is muddy.
Precisely! I've noticed that guitars sound overshadowed by the bass and an echo or something.
Theyre not wider as both are 70hz - 20k Hz monitors. The difference surely is the little EQ from 75 hz to 95Hz mackie has
@@Esefedege i meant the wideness/depth of the perceived sound
@@KarolDst well, that depends on the ear and if they used Silk and Kevlar as materials too (also wood). It also depends on how flat they actually are, thats bc of the EQ Mackie has on those frequencies i told you, it's totally different live because we don't really know how the monitors were placed for this video and the difference between what the microphone captures and what our ears capture. I'd say they're almost the same, Mackie does good in the mid-high range but that EQ from 75 to 95Hz aprox. May make it muddier on the low end. For just a little bit more you could get some KRK Rokit CI5 G3 wich are really good and go under 45Hz, it's a really low difference for a wider range and bigger monitor (just 1 inch)
@@KarolDst I've been a Mackie MR5 MK3 user for about 3 years now, just sold them today. Gotta say, once you test those Mackies you'll notice how good they do when they reach 45Hz, incredible balance, but not at all the same price. The CR4 may have that good definition, but i wouldn't trust it's capacities trying to get that 45Hz definition the MR5 MK3 have because it's not gonna be there. Editing low freqs and monitoring low end may become difficult, even tho i've never tried them the range is what i don't like.
Thanlk you for the vid! And thank to all comments down here, as a noobie it is great to have so many hints what and how to listen ... I go now with the Eris, got AKG 501 (listening your vid with them) , and the E4.5 sound really flat to me, with good defined bass.
Subbed - Great work. One suggestion. Have you considered adding a brief V.O. - 1 male, 1 female with no music to the test? Might be nice for those looking for Home Studio V.O. monitors.
They are pretty close but also different. It’s interesting how certain genres sound better on one or the other. Your mixes could end up being so different depending on which set you have. I liked the retro wave and the hard rock/metal one on the Mackie more but over all preferred the Presonus.
Yes you are right. I found real instruments sound better on CR4 and Presonus is a bit compressed and electronic music sounds better on them. I just bought the CR4 from a person as unwanted gift for £30 on ebay not arrived yet.. I think it is not a bad deal. I am curious what they are like. At the moment I have a pair of Numark, I think CR4 will be much better than them.
Thanks for this video. I don't know why I'm always looking for someone's opinion on gear. Really appreciate the completely unbiased "listen and decide for yourself approach". For what it's worth to anyone, what I brought away from this video is that the mackies sound a bit more like home stereo speakers. the presonus don't necessarily sound as enjoyable to listen to, but they for sure sound clearer and much more defined than the mackies. the low end on the mackies is a bit too boosted for accurate monitoring.
😊 done deal just bout the presonus e4.5 by, ready to sound on with my iPad Pro 12.9 setup. Your videos helped with my decision. Thanks
Out of these two, the e4.5 is more accurate and neutral and it passes more (useful) information/details for sound engineering, whereas the cr4 is more natural sounding, less harsh than e4.5. It would take some time to get accustomed to and accept neutral speakers and headphones (but then you will also start disliking bass focused stuff, like JBLs &Co. straight out of the box, with no EQ tweaking). So if you are just a listener, then cr4 might be your choice, but if you plan to work with the sound and recordings, the e4.5 would be a better choice here, imo. And, the e3.5 with a sub would be even better.
the mackie's sound scooped. really like the tightness of the e4.5's
This channel is amazing your my for to audio channel amazing quality and no BS thanks for making such awesome videos.P.s the eris took a huge dump on the Mackies well done video ✌✌👍👍
The Presonus Eris E4.5 sounds wider and with better controled bass.
Guitars sound like they should.
My Mackies have broken twice, with the same problem of no power...have just bought the Eris.
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my mackies just died i ordered the eris an hour ago :/
@@royalbray809 also just happened to me, thinking of doing the same. how are you liking the eris?
Use surge protector 220-240v guys, I had same experience for Mackie 😑
I've had 2 sets Mackies cr4 die on me. Store replaced them every time but my latest set is now doing the same thing. The power amp gets fuzzy and then just dies.
are u fucking kidding me with this? who makes straight to the point comparisons like this anymore lmao you are awarded a LIKE my friend, fucking great video!
Presonus is my favorite here. they sound a little bit more precise :)
mackie sound box.... Pre... Precise!
The Mackies have more bass but the presonus speakers have some of the clearest trebles I've ever heard (even though my hearing is down to 13khz peak) and i feel like the clarity of the treble and especially mid-range vocals trumps extra bass. WE got the Eris 3.5's and a subwoofer.
The Mackies have deeper bass, higher highs, but sound kind of scooped. The Presonus (which I own) do not have the deep bass like the Mackies, but still have nice punch, and much more midrange, with smooth highs. Also remember the newer Presonus have a Mid and a High control knob, an Acoustic Space switch for when the speakers are to close to a wall and a switch for use with a subwoofer; 60Hz, 80Hz, and 100Hz I believe. The old ones only have a Bass and Treble knob so watch for what you're getting. The Mackies, have no controls :-(
Presonus is flatter, allowing the highs to come through. Mackie seems to swallow the highs. Both sound very good regardless. Mackie bass sounds a bit muddier IMHO. -Jim
I have the same thoughts as you. In addition Mackie is more bass heavy tune. And to cover its very low bass performance they also tuned up 95 - 75 Hz band. this support the flatter Presonus. I also think Mackie "Mackie bass sounds a bit muddier IMHO. -Jim" same. Listened on 0bjective2+ODAC+HD650
agreed
the mackies basically always sounded really boomy in the low end
One week in using CR4 in my home studio set up and finding these compact monitors not so compact in sound atmosphere amazing bass quality and clear smooth high end make these great to check out final mix noted bluetooth facility yet to try this angle out.I compose arrange make various genres of music from new age to jazzfusion dub so these need to fufill different dynamics and isolate quiet sections ,great all round monitor and music speaker.
Liked presonus. Made my decision. Thank you
Guys have to lisen New Orleans comparation min 4:50. The makie has a poor response in the mid-range range, maybe by the crossover circuit: the quality of the guitar is notorius. Presonus much better.
Yo you make such dope content thank you so much
I prefer Mackie, more midrange, less hollow sounding. Presonus sound dry and digital. Some people may want that though. They have a lot of highs that's for sure.
you might have a serious listening issue
I couldn't hear much difference in higher end. What I noticed is that bass sounds (not sub bass ) is a little forward in CR4 but tighter in E4.5 (could be from 90Hz to 150Hz). Thanks for the video.
Had the presonus but they died on me two months in 😡 bought mackies right after and have been LOVIN them 😎
What I found works best is I use one mackie and one presonus 😁👌🏽 just a helpful suggestion
What do you mean they died on you brother?? Did they break?? Or go bad or sth.
I real good comparison would be to add the Presonus Eris Sub8 subwoofer, the combo between the Eris 4.5 in addition is killer! They clearly have much better high and mid end’s, adding the Eris sub 8 puts the combo over the top, a must for recording... Well done though, Thank you. The Mackie’s bass is just too muddy.
Presonus Eris E4.5 also has option to change dB of highs and lows.
Please compare "Presonus Eris E4.5" with "FLUID AUDIO C5W"?
mackie cr4 is better. it is especially apparent at 'Dream a Dream' and 'full speed', the songs sounded very weak on the eris. the mackie overall has a more balanced sound
I wanted the Presonus to sound better because the Mackie looks ugly with that green. Listening on my headphones there is not much in it but the Mackie sounds warmer to me. Thanks a lot for the comparison.
Carlos Alfonso Rodríguez Chinchilla where you can buy them, them nowhere:((
Carlos Alfonso Rodríguez Chinchilla I want buy mackie cr4 with white rings, but on amazon they are no more:(
Very close and both are nice. May be i prefer the Mackie for more homogeneous sound.
the Mackies are just a little bit better. They edge out on LF and personality. Thanks for testing!
How is the sound here right now i think the Mackie is better then other Presonus because the sound is more open and more clear.But i'm not sure if it's the true about what i felt on my ears from your video.
Both sound great. Zero difference can be detected this way.
Thank you so much!
Listening in w/ my M40x. Presonus does does sound a bit more honest in projecting music. But the 80 dollar difference between the 2 is kind of a deal breaker *sigh. Its really tough working on a tight budget 😕
This is a great sound-off - but it makes the Mackie and PreSonus sound somewhat competitive. Let me just say, they're not even close. I had the Mackie CR4 then I got the Presonus Eris 4.5 BT straight after. Compared to the Eris - the Mackie's are like two dog turds wired together - they're sub-standard Chinese rubbish and they stink. Don't get me started on the massive overheating problem the Mackie's have - it matters not, they're in a class well below PreSonus.
I'm absolutely blown away by the Eris 4.5 BT. Clean. Crisp. Perfect, without muddy lows and hissy highs. Everything in-between perfect - and that's all you need. I'm even thinking about going larger in the Eris range to handle my general listening needs. They're that good. It's all in the ear of the beholder, but make sure you listen to these things compared and don't rely solely on sound tests. You'll be amazed. Try a complex piece of music with complex sonic breadth - maybe some post-rock, Kids Will Be Skeletons (Mogwai)? God is an Astronaut perhaps - the Mackies get bogged-down and confused, PreSonus however is just clear interpretation and beautiful.
I'll give the Mackie's some credit - they're a reasonable general listening set-up with warm bass and a broad mid-range. But that's it. Save your money and invest in PreSonus. You won't regret it
PS: Do I have any affiliation with PreSonus? No. Nothing at all - I'm just very impressed I chose them.Thank God.
Can you write some deeper analysis please?
I think the Mackies are a little bit higher... that might explain why they sound more low end... the speaker is higher
in on the verge of buying one of these 2 now..have been trawling for vids and the general consensus is the ERIS is better..i have hheard so many stories of Mackies failing, its disturbing!..I cant verify this but this issue comes up heaps in the reviews and forums..anyone here recently bought the ERIS 4.5s..would love to hear your thoughts..
cheers!
I'm upgrading from the CR4's because mine failed at the side selector switch.
I had a set of Mackies and they died after 6 months
Presonus wins
60hz difference xD I wish to see a review of the Presonus Eris and the Yamaha HS5, i know, its twice of the price but it budget real monitor, for what i've read on the net. Thanks for this quality test :D
Ow sry, i've found it.. On your own channel D: Thanks you lov ya :D
i am a little bit disappoint from Presonus E3.5 but the 4.5 is good and for me better as Mackie cr4.
Same here
@@DSAUDIOreview please tell me sir. presonus eris 3.5 or mackie cr4 ?? Which one should i go for...
i need to proceed immediately... (it seems like i should go for Mackie cr4 instead of eris 3.5.... Bcoz eris 4.5 is expensive while mackie cr4 is less expensive). but i will get 4inch studio monitor.... Answer me please ???/
Presonus has more bass and oompf to it. Both nice speakers though.
Mackie CR4 high-mids seem to be somewhere in the middle between Presonus 3.5 and 4.5 ... which is pretty logical, considering the size relation 3.5, 4, 4.5 :D
So, 3.5 might sound a bit too shrill and "into your face" when it comes to voices, while 4.5 could be lacking some details in voices. Mackie CR4 is the "golden midway"... but who knows, how it would actually sound in my room with my favorite music...
which is better please ?
Presonus just won my heart here
love Presonus's sound
I like presonus
Mackie til the day I die 😁
Presonus 180€
Mackie 110€
Presonus you have full options for the sound, Mackie zero options .....
I have got the cr5 bt. Thay have ridiculous stereo image, but freq-resp itn't that good
Presonus one is almost 2 times more expensive than the Mackie in my local store. Do you think it will worth it? I know Mackies are actually multimedia monitors not exactly for studio but people say it gets job done. I'm so confused.
@@helios3722 better speakers , for example? E4.5 is said to be the best value for money, also for listening to music
Love your channel - very helpful in buying my Eric 3.5's. Been trying to find that Long Drive cut you use. Can you share the source? Thx. Doh - I just found it on your channel site. Thanks for posting it!
Mackie's seems more enjoyable for casual listening.
in my taste mackie is better for metal geners, destrotion guitar more scooped and seperation of notes better so.
eris is wider range 8n electronics geners , mackie is honest
should i get eris 4.5 or rokit 4 g3 ?
you can notice a difference but I can't tell which one sounds better... I am not sure which one to pick.
I am listening to Reggae and Dancehall most the time can anyone help me decide ?
Out of these two, Mackie for listening and Eris for mixing and mastering. The pair of Eris passes more information/details and is more neutral. You can still tweak both with an EQ to a certain extent, boost bass/roll off trebble f.i., but you can't add details, and clarity.
As a Rock guitarist I feel the Mackie CR4's have a little more punch and bring out the bass a bit more on Full Speed 7:05
I'm looking for my first set of monitors, and the Mackies sound like they handle rock and metal better (although i think CR5's are now the current gen)
Nice Vid \m/
I guess after two years of mixing one might decide for a neutral sound and more clarity and useful details, right?
Presonus bass is deeper but very muddy, makie is much more defined and bouncy. the voice sound high tone both are the same however Makie is again the lower sound is more hearable, the presonus is flat. clearly the sound image is better on makie, presonus is less dimentional. Makie is cheaper and good buy compare with Presonus.
Depends on what you do. If you just listen to music, then, indeed, Mackie. if you record&mix, then Eris is a better choice out of the two. I had both and stayed with Eris. It has bass boost on the back side and you can tweak both with an EQ. What you can't tweak - details/useful information and that cr4 filters some out, which is well audible in this video. With that respect the e4.5 is better for mixing, projecting a cleaner and more neutral image. (Though the e3.5 with a sub would be even better, imo).
The Mackie's are too hyped in the high midrange. The Eris are smoother across the spectrum which is how monitors are supposed to sound.
hey man which better for beat making m thanks
I noticed no difference,
Can you please compare krk rokit 5 with mackie mr524 ?
Hi, i have one question on you, in my country costs CR4 about 100 bucks and E4.5 about 180 bucks, is it worth to pay almost the double price for the presonus e4.5 (i mean, is E4.5 so much better than the CR4 to pay extra 80 bucks)? thank you very much for your time
Go for mackie cr4. thank me later. Worth the price.
thank you
WTF? In my country E4.5 costs 10$ *less* than CR4.
Yepp, from what I can spot with my ears here, the Presonus are more according to my taste. They sound more true, especially in the mids. But at Thomann even the Mackie CR5 Bluetooth cost around 10 Euros less. So, really what's the point. They're not outstandingly better. Hard decision though if can't be compared at home!
@@sidewinder286 what?
Hi!! Can we use them for bedroom DJing?
Of course
In my country the mackie is 130$
And the presonus is 215$
Wich one do you think i should buy?
Get Mackie
Hello. I’ve heard both of them and they sound pretty much similar to me. Talking about looks and built quality I like the presonus. I would mostly be doing covers and gospel music.
In my country the Presonus is 18k (rupees) and the Mackie cr4 is11k. Could you pls help me decide on one? Your answer is my final decision. @digitalstereophony
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Any advise between this 2 for a budget on desktop table speakers for mostly acoustic music, female vocals and movies... with my price comparison: cr4 are 155 euros and Eris E4.5 are 235 euros. Do you thing for the price CR4 are a good buy?
The differenece in price is rather big and I would say to choose with Your wallet. I would probably go with E4.5 anyway, especially if You care about good bass performance
Yeah, thanks. I decided to skip on buying for now and go for JBL LSR305 later. Thanx
Which one is better for home studio? Eg: maxing and mastering and vocal editing.
Neither is optimal choice IMO. Strech your bydget to 200 dollars and go for Presonus E5
I heard mackies tend to break down in just a few months, is this true?
Özgün Demir Bu yüzden güzel indirimdeyken bile almaya çekindim cr4 ü.
Gokhan M Dikmen aynen bende, Amazon’da kullanıcı yorumları çok kötü, iki sene max ömrü varmış aletin açma kapama anahtarından kısadevre yapıp Sistemi yakıyormuş, vazgeçtim biraz bekleyip presonus eris e5 alacağım
Özgün Demir e4.5 de mi sorunluymus? Ben e4.5 almayı dusunuyordum
Özgün Demir Gerçi böyle bir aktif bir pasif monitor alınca aktif olana yük biniyor her markada bu speaker dead yorumu var. Bir çift aktif almak mantıklı gibi.
Yep, I've had several sets die on me. I'm taking them back and demanding a refund
do they both have that horrible hiss
Sir please do sound test on subwoofers also.
Comparing subwoofers this way on YT would be pointless and hard to justify. Do not expect it from me any time soon.
Digital Stereophony well said
@@DSAUDIOreview I mean it's just as pointless to compare speakers with that logic, it's always limited to what's coming out of their speakers at home. If the person already has a subwoofer, they'll be able to get an "idea" of what it pushes out just like with these videos.
Are you really recording their audio or you are just playing the music in the video? Because the audio is too clear and real which is hard to believe.
Music You hear in this comparison is reproduced by the speakers, check the link in the video description to compare it with the original tracks...
PREs hands down
CAN SOMEONE HELP ME .. I WANT AN MONITOR SPEAKER.. WHICH IS THE BEST FOR ROCM AND METAL ?
Headbangers to 7:06
Presonus Eris E4.5 sounds better, for me
hey which audio interface are you used fr comparison studio monitors
Behringer Monitor2USB in this comparison
Presonus sounds more open and natural, mackies sound a bit as if something was holding them back so to speak
Which one would you suggest for music production?
E4.5 would be my pick
Digital Stereophony What specifically about it makes it more ideal for music production compared to the CR4?
e4.5 sounds a bit more balanced and less muddy
where is a edifier s2000pro in test? please........
It will be here very soon, next week probably
thanks. I like a Lsr305 for mixing, and like s2000pro for listening and movies. i have both. They are great speakers! Lsr 305 have a nice mids, but bass is poor than Edifier, s2000pro hava a nice bass but mids is not good like in a Jbl's. What you think about it?
Is the prosonus logo glowing blue LED or just simple logo with no led?
No LED backlight on E4.5. Just a plain logo
@@DSAUDIOreview Thank you for response, just got my new E4.5 speakers based on your videos, thank you for all the content you are creating, your awesome!
@@AndyMarcelin how have they been working until now?
Mackie is much warmer so for our eyars shpuld be better, and for me won
listenening to this on my shitty creative speaker make me wonder what this video reall is fo r :D
Mackie🍾🍾🍾
I'm searching something like that due to my budget and needs, which do you suggest for bulding quality, durability and most important sound quality ?
E4.5 is my choice
thanks. I think will be my choice too
They are pretty the same
Mackie +
Only is with Mackie is they die on you! (1 dead monitors)
Mackie CR4 ;)
What song @7:00 ?
never mind its "Full Speed by Akoahi"
@@trevorbelmont4633 Which speakers sounded the best to you?