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I'm currently on the market for some monitors and I gotta say, this channel has proven so very useful - these comparison videos are the most tangible thing that we can base a purchase decision on. Granted, the real sound cannot be reproduced in a video, but you hear the relative differences between both units, which is very very useful!
@@eddierey5202 Just got the Edifiers and I'm very happy, as well. Very solid product for the price point. Not sure if it's still running now, but as of mid-week, last week (9/21/23), Amazon had a $30 off coupon, making it a sweet deal ($99.99 before tax).
same in mine country- i am very pleased with overal signature of Mr4 but i am not doing music production - just some voice-over as non comercial hobby plus using them as general pc speakers - very good in this regard also i am using beyerdynamic cups 990 pro and 770 pro - for me for the price - doin its job !
Eris 4.5 win. Mr4 thiếu dãy trung, thậm chí dãy cao bị xé ra.nghe một bản vinahuose thưởng thức thì được.eris 4.5 win.1 hãng chuyên nghiệp sẽ không bị đánh bại bởi thương hiệu lạ nhỏ
In my country they don't cost too differently than each other, 3.5 costs exactly the same as M4 but 4.5 is only 3-4k INR (or like 40 USD at most) more expensive
@@quocnhachannel7794chuẩn luôn, về độ mở không gian 2 con như nhau Còn về dải mid con MR4 rỗng tuếch nghe hụt vãi chưởng => Vẫn cứ là tiền nào của đấy :))
I definitely feel the MR4 is more natural sounding with closer to flat overall response. On the other hand, the Presonus is being exposed as sightly weaker in the mids which enhances the audible highs. Both are very comparable speakers and honestly, you really can't go wrong with either. As always, a great comparison!
@@Tephnos i have the eris 4.5 here ..... and often my mix in my car sound too close in trebles and bassline is not ok. Maybe the mr4 is more flat in the trebles .... and maybe more bass ? I see 60Hz for mr4 and the eris are 70Hz. What you think ?
@@ChrisBessy Honestly, at this price range, I wouldn't expect actual professional quality. They're decent as reference monitors, but you'll never get accurate mixing from them, that's just too much to ask for at this price. Plus, the bass is never going to be accurate on a 4" woofer. It's just not possible, you will want 5-6" minimum to even start to work without a sub.
I have a Presonus Eris 4.5 and it performs a great sound If you compare this two monitors, the MR4 sounds warmer than Eris and it looks like the "frequency (L,M,H)" are well separated. In my opinion, the MR4 are slightly focused on mid frequency and the Eris are little bit focused on mid/high and for me the high frequency is extented "shimmer" that is why you can hear a manageable harsh sound on it. If you have a Presonus Eris 4.5 just tune down the high frequency knob by -2dB for me, depending on your area and it sounds fine. If you want a budget friendly monitor, go for MR4 Either of the two you will get a good sounding studio monitors 😉
hey! thank you for this, im also planning to get 4.5 i really like how clear the vocals it gives. but that price comparisson is something to consider, like a huge lot.
For some reason the MR4 sound like they have more width or the sense of air-yness, like the one you get in a concert environment when the speakers are playing in an open space. They sound very open, and it's very hard to believe that, that sound is coming out of these little speakers because usually bigger speakers do that.
Pricewise the mr4 compete with the eris e3.5, but seeing how their sound is more on the level of the e4.5, the mr4 are a no brainer, this clears any doubts one could have.
love your videos! If you have time pls lmk if presonus 4.5 and mr4 are same price then which would u suggest to average consumers? (mostly watch movies/youtube/just regular songs)
hmm they sound almost identical, then the graph show, well they look very similiar until vocal come in, MR4 has a litle bit bolder vocal, when eris is more airy vocal
The Edifier, closer to original track in a couple of tracks. Presonus excellent detail, but in mainly in 2k and up. (Man on fire track), edifiers were boxy, presonus sounded better. Presonus better on Deep, Edifier lacking detail of track. I'm hearing the Q of the Edifier on some tracks,.... Edifiers, little warmer, (less information above 2k then Presonus,...but Edifiers lack sparkle, Presonus have a sheen over sound the track Edifiers more boxy SOUNDING. Edifier, party speaker, sound ok, fun. Presonus much more detail, a little more tactile, I think.
I applaud your method. I haven't seen any other speaker comaparison on youtube (maybe they exist, I just haven't seen them), where they play the source file as a reference point so that no matter what you listen to the video through you know what original should sound like and how much the recordeds speakers deviate. Just a couple of improvements though. A) play the source for longer to start. B) There's no point switching between the speakers directly, you should always play source followed by speaker. So for each song it should be Source > Speaker A > Source > Speaker B. C) Always play the same section of the song as source and with both speakers. Just because it's the same song doesn't give a truly accurate comparison if you compare different segments as tone, harmonics etc never remain the same in different sections of the same song. Finally, why spend all this time and effort doing this for small no name unheard of (mostly cheap) brands of micro speakers?? Get some real speakers in, including floorstanders etc. Finally finally, there is something wrong with your setup which unfortunately make these entire videos pointless: Even speakers that you show as having low treble levels compared to the rest of their frequency curve sound a lot brighter than the source. It's not a matter of lack of bass either (becuase they're all small). The treble sounds too bright compared to the midrange and speakers that according to the frequency response should sound tonally dark or dull still sound bright compared to source.. I strongly suspect your microphone or something in the recording chain is boosting the mid to treble responses as it's technically impossible with a neutral recording chain to record a treble low speaker and have it sound bright compared to the source file.
I'm looking for a new pair of desktop/monitor speakers for my PC and currently listening your fantastic A/B tests on my Singxer SDA-1 DAC / Little Dot Mk VI tube headphone amplifier / Beyerdynamic Amiron Home setup. I feel, the overall difference is in most cases are negligible and both speakers performs very well. The Presonus has a bit more detail, but a bit weaker sound. The Edifier has a bit more body and better base. I think both of them fit the bill, but comparing the prices (Presonus Eris E4.5 is Eur 185 while Edifier MR4 is Eur 130 here) the Edifier is a no brainer. Please, continue your fantastic job!
I haven't heard the Presonus in person but did buy MR4s a few months ago. I've very happy with the MR4s, or at least I am with very minimal EQ tweaking, was very surprised by the responsive and well balanced midtones. My experience with the MR4s in person is very close to what I hear in this video and many others, in which I also find the Presonus' (both the 3.5 and 4.5) a little harsh to my ears - I feel like I would fatigue early with that default sound profle, which is less of a problem on the MR4s. Granted I use my MR4s for listening to music and media at my desk not for mixing in a studio - they definitely are intended for near field listening, drop off on the bass end at pretty low volume and don't fill a room up all that well. For the good sale prices you can get the Edifiers for (I bought directly from their website not Amazon) you can't really go wrong with them.
It would've been nice to hear the MR4's music mode compared to the Eris 4.5. In these clips, the MR4 is in mixing mode, which gives a flatter curve. I find the music mode to be more flattering of the sound, and would make for a better comparison when comparing how nice they sound when listening to music for entertainment.
@@portman8909 It could be tried, but their curves won't watch perfectly, and they'll continue to have their distinct sounds. The E4.5 have too much mid-scoop, IMO. I had both systems, and preferred the MR4.
I have the presonus on my desk. Even after two years they still surprize me. I also have some more expensive Edifier with a sub in my living room. They are good value, but they don't blow me away like the presonus.
Resposta de frequência parecidíssima e as caixas são do mesmo tamanho, então por que o som das Eris parece tão mais vivo e o das MR4 mais fechado? Uma pessoa me explicou: é o amplificador que fica na caixa ativa: nas Eris é classe AB, nas MR4 é classe D, os classe AB produzem um som com maior fidelidade.
У JBL 305 mk2 d klass но они явно звучат гораздо лучше чем Presonus eris e4.5 почему я отказался от них потому что они просто на мозги давят своей компрессией как будто что больше четырёх песен у тебя мозг вскипел и уши в трубочку скрути Edifier mr4 лучше по всему и балансы высоких и средних частот они а меня стоят на столе .
Yeah if this were a boxing match, it'd go down to a narrow decision - there is no knock-out here. This is impressive given that the Edifiers cost less than half of the Presonus in my market. Still, both are really good and neutral, pleasant speakers. I prefer the MR4's on most tracks but the Presonus on some. Of course this test allows us to compare mostly the frequency response to the source, at one volume. I imagine the Presonus would be better at higher volumes.
I am currently listening to this demo o through my Edifier MR4 speakers :) I have some nice Yamaha HS5s in my home studio , but was looking for a more mobile solution for my ipad recording set up and am very happy with my decision to go for the MR4s
Здравствуйте ну и как вам Edifier mr4 по сравнению с yamaha ah5 напишите подробный ответ спасибо, интересует именно детализация высоких средних частот и сцена y Yamaha hs 50 звук бутылки
Great comparison. Since they are so similar, I'm inclined to opt for the MR4 which is cheaper, has the music mode, and is available in white. On thge other hand, the tweeter sounds better on the Eris, and the overall frequency response is slightly flatter then the MR4, on average, although that dip, just above 600Hz could be problematic. Many have reported background noise problems with the Eris 4.5. I wonder if the MR4 is better in that respect. I wish there was something like these, but with a sub output!
I love the tune Mortals you use. It's a good demonstration of over-compression and pumping. These are terrible for mixing guitar - either of them. The highs smear into the mids with both of these. I have listened to them both in person. Might be ok for playing music once the mix is done or streaming general listening but they can ruin a mix if you don't have experience with them. Once you know what something should sound like, then mix for that, but the speakers sound like something else, get something different. Now I aim for bands, compression holes and specific volumes instead of pitch. Meh anyway my two cents. Fun video.
@@k5k560 I have not had personal experience with the edifier but they are just for enjoying music and general listening. So they are going to have their own set of problems. But honestly I would stay away from them until they come out with a true studio level competitor. The Presonus can have level corrections applied using SoundID reference software specifically for your room. But again you need to get an elite level Presonus product and they just can't compete with JBL and KALI for the price. But that is my opinion. Some people are so good at hearing issues like doubling and combing etc., and they are so good at mixing from having done it for years, that they can mix adequately on almost any "studio" monitor. I suggest no matter what you choose - go and get the SoundID Reference software and microphone. It helps you calibrates each speaker in space and time. I use it and it is great. But I am a JBL and KALI AUDIO believer. Their engineering for studio always works for me and they have literally decades of experience over almost every other speaker monitor maker. You can get the Kali audio 5 vII for a reasonable price and they are great for general mix and listening once they are tuned for your room. The KALI also have built in DSP hard switches to adjust for room placement as well. I hope this helps as I have no idea what level of experience or preference you are at and or have. Good luck and have fun.
Hello DSAUDIO, I was planning on getting the S360DB, but now that I've heard the MR4 I figure I might get a T5 and use its RCA passthrough to set up a 2.1 with the MR4. Do you think this would work better than the S360DB? Thank you!
Cant believe how perfectly neutral MR4 is. After this test, Presonus feels like party speaker :D It has bigger bass, but boomy, less control, and highs emphasized to the ear rape level (Mortals). EQ that would trim Presonus peaks a bit would make it equal to MR4 i guess.
I've compared both at home now and trust me when i say go for the Eris E4.5 if you make/produce music. If you just want to listen to music and you are low on your budget, go for the MR4. But not if you want to make/produce music. The tweeter on the E4.5 just sounds a lot better. The highs are in, how you say, higher resolution and just a lot higher quality. I've compared both of them while playing some pieces on my e-piano and the higher octaves sound muffled and even have scratching noises on the MR4. On the E4.5 however it sounds really good and crystal clear.
The eris sounds crystal clear my ass sounds boosted as fuck edifier sounds very balanced ..for mixing u need neutral sound and this is what the edifier is kinda of grot box where y don't have much fidelity u have not much experience in professional mixing it seems.
And here we have the expected comparison! Definitely Presonus, but let's not leave aside the features that the Edifiers have (monitor mode / normal speaker mode) My conclusion is : - home studio / media production : Presonus - for listening music movies : Edifier Thanks again to the channel for another very useful comparison!
Hello, I have been watching your channel for a very long time. Thank you, I love your tests! I have to change my speakers, I have little space and a budget of 300 euros max, to listen to FLAC in the best condition. Between Edifier 1280, 1700, 1850, MR4, Presonus eris 4.5 and the superb Edifier S880db? More I listen to your tests, more I hesitate...I don't know what to choose...Can you help me please? Your opinion will be valuable to me. Thank you again.
It really depends on what speakers you are using while watching this. My wife's laptop is using the Edifier MR4 (White color). I am watching this video on my PC with Creative Sound Blaster X Katana soundbar. Really, the Edifier MR4 I heard was not as nice as what I am hearing in this video with my soundbar now.
Please review and compare the new Q Acoustics M20 HD. It would be great to hear the difference with studio monitors as they are more like Hi fi speakers. Great channel btw. Subscribed!
Edifiers are closer to neutral, but I can see why people say they sound boxy. The Eris has sparkle on the high end which isn't bad. At the end of the day is personal preference with these. Personally, I'd be happy with either of these.
Siento que para producción como monitores de estudio son mejores los edifier mr4 por el vídeo se nota más plano el sonidoi mientras que los prosonus tienen más brillo en agudos lo cual para producción no es bueno eso
E4.5 wins (for me). Good spacial sound. Open sound. Clean and detailed. Beauty. Protections. 8 watts more power. And price? More expensive... is bad, yes. But Amplifier Class AB (good and durable). Againt MR4 Class D (more or less). Where is digital input? Both. Limited conections.
The ilouds have a clearer sound with a bit of focus on mids.Sound is very focused and clear. The MR4 sound a bit more balanced with a wider soundstage. Less focused and not as clear. ilouds also have more bass extension, but in my opinion a bit too much. If I had to decide though I would prefer the ilouds for movies because its easier to listen to voices, while using the MR4 for music as it has more emotion. You definitely have to listen louder with the MR4 than on the ilouds to get good sound.
Ilouds are neutral tuned with additional deep bass(dsp tuned), probably will compress more at higher lvls, this one seems like a natural tuned sound and probably flatter, not necessary to say better though.
-Presonus looks to be made with higher quality materials, which also makes it look better. MR4 is also as white though -MR4 is smaller -MR4 looks a bit boxy in these transitions for example 2:003:44 -Presonus sounds more open in transition at 8:57 -MR4 bass is more sublte at 9:28 transition, but sounds more boxed again In my country Presonus is 180€ and MR4 is 130€. I would rather go for Presonus if I had to choose from black models, but when Edifier is also in white, this makes it more challenging. Size may be also one factor. Soundwise presonus is better in my opinion.
Sound of mr4 is more like real studio monitor; dull, natural and clear.( I own an Alesis Monitor One). Maybe E4.5 is clearer cause of the treble and is not natural. I notice mr4 make sound testing against other expensive studio monitors. I know they are really good. I'm glad I bought mr4 twice cheaper than E4.5.
Listening to this video on Senn HD600, the MR4 seems more flat and the E4.5 seems to be V-shaped with stronger highs. The low end seems better on E4.5 but surely not 2x the price better. Anyway, MR4 switch is misleading. If you go to audiosciencereview they've measured the Music mode to be better, more accurate. Maybe E5 are much better than MR4 but that's almost 250% the price.
@@rikimiki12 I guess so, e4. 5 is higher price, I agree it's produce much clearer sound than mr4. But I'm impressed it can hit very low end in such a small size. I bought it for the low price.
@@onlinespecialpo8171 I'm getting MR4 too. Where I live it's exactly 2x the price of E4.5 and I can't find a reason for that price. Those living in US have even more better options at Presonus price range but those brands aren't selling in Europe
I just had these two monitor speakers here: On stands the Eris 3.5 sound much more free, with the music not "clinging" to the speakers as it does on the Edifiers. The Edifiers sound like good PC speakers, the Eris 3.5 more like real monitor speakers. The Edifiers have more body, but the sound image is too flat spatially. Sent the Edifiers back.
Понимаю, - видео не отражает живого звука. Слушал с закрытыми глазами, открывал глаза на звуке который мне больше нравится. Открывал глаза и предо мной был Presonous.
Bought a MR4 ( in sales )couple months ago for my keyboard arranger (with NS 100 subwoofer support ). Nice sounding monitor and Music mode sound more neutral flat than monitor mode. Sadly the unit i own has defective tweeter on main unit. Distort sound with piano voice and brass voice. Never has similar issue on R2800,R2000, S1000MK II and other low cost edifier speaker i been own. Edifier always has nice and strong tweeter on their product. Return it and i with edifier will launch the MR5 with 5 in woofer speaker soon along with better quality tweeter.
i know this comparison isn't related, but im looking to buy either Logitech Z625 2.1 or Edifier MR4 2.0 for 8.5x8.5 room. My priority is music, I also love gaming and film on PC. Any advice would be appreciated.
Edifiers have VERY loud hissing and "boomy", '"box-like" sound (see the frequency response, lift at 400-500 hz). But they're still nice cheap start level monitors. Presonuses are more preсise, of course. But they have a hissing too (less than Edifiers)
Have you used any other Edifier models like the r1280t? They hiss, but it is hardly what I would call 'loud', and I'd be surprised if the MR4 was any louder than the r1280t. I've also heard comments about the 4.5 having too much hum, but this seems to be a common fault with them that develops over time. Weird. On more reading, it appears the Presonus speakers in general are *very* poorly shielded and will often hum/hiss due to things in their surroundings?
@@webstudius I'll be honest, I've used Genelecs (8030c) that hiss louder than the r1280t. If that's the baseline that the MR4 hiss level is like then it is already doing pretty good.
Unfortunately, I can confirm that MR4 hiss louder than other Edifier models I tested. They hiss on par with E4.5 but less than CR4-X for example, so they are somewhere in the middle of other budget studio monitors in that regard
Низнайу мне нинравится трих палосних ета студио не будит адмануют ета новим мадел MR4 паслушил сразу нравился мне кому как мне ни ентересна трих палосни
presonus all the way, altho the edifier is good presonus imaging is more expansive and with a nice presonus imaging is more expansive and with a nice depth to it. also presonus is more authoritative, punchier and accurate. however, they are close......just not the same
That radio like tone is slightly elevated mids, which is better for monitors. Most instruments are in midrange, and you want them to stand out. Typical speaker has V-shape frequencies, where loudness drops in the mids - it works for relaxed listening, where nothing stands out. Monitors should NOT give relaxed sound, it should serve for production with lots of equalization tweaking.
@@kingie66 First I need to say I'm a total amateur in this, ok? But using logic ( my logic..:D ) why would anyone want to mix on something they aren't listening it on? You say most speakers will have 'v' shape EQ setting. Then, WHY NOT to mix exsactly on those? Say most instruments will be in that mid range and 'V' shape EQ will surpress that down.. What do you do on studio monitor then? Elevate it up? So why not doing it on 'V' EQ shapped speakers? Do you miss those instrument there? Well bring them up.. BOOM! Done.. :) And I don¨t even wanna go deep into who and how they are listenning most productions. ( teenager with his heapdhones on the street, back yeard, park lot in their car, subway with AAAAAALL those amazing aditional ambient sounds.. ) Anyway, I really only wanna see more of the logic here.. In my case that's a bit different, I'm ( mostly ) rock drummer, who writes music using symphonic instruments. But I also know people DO NOT listen it the way I wish they did. ( Of course except of VERY few ) From what I know ( so far ) people mix using SO unbelievable elaborate systems ( cables, microphones, consoles etc.) to get their products MOSTLY to that teenager in a noisy environment, or, to a party, where everyone is at least tipsy ( in the better case ) yelling, jumping and.. enjoying the clarity of the mix?? Of the different frequencies?? Or what is it that normal speakers couldn't give these consumers?? Even in movies, when the music is on, mostly there will be aditional sounds and noises.. That's not to say that good product could be created on a shity system, but why studion monitors, really? Please don't take this as some kind of laugh to those that do understand it, I'm really only using a logic of an amateur. Thanks for any responses..
@@radeksikldrumming3970 I am no pro either(and Im not trying to act audiophile elitist:D). To my understanding, monitor purpose is for detailed instrument separation, that should be neutral, free from as much negative effects(like hiss, bominess, distortions..) as possible. I was trying to point, that for listening, monitor neutrality is advantage, because response to EQ allows for highly customizable result. As you say, it makes no sense to ignore usual speakers/phones for production, so monitors shouldnt be the only reference tool, just some kind of "filter". Yes some people and genres want fun V-sound, some wanting more analytic precision. So imho finding middle ground is the key - and necessity, coz many reproduction devices will have some boost functions on. That could screw the sound into negative effects if track source is already too much V-shaped.
@@kingie66 Thank you for your answer. I think, to ensure most consumer's happiness, the middle ground as you say must be the way. Next think just HAS to be the producer's individual taste. I believe this video should roughly show the differences between the two different speakers as I think we CAN'T hear what is really going on there sitting in front of our comps. Then I think most comments here are not much of a worth. I think if one can't hear it, a comment won't help. I'm just really curious about what's gonna be comming out of my work once I start mixing on studio monitors for till now I mixed on my studio headphones ( not those for musicians themself ) and the only problem with playing back on say 'normal' speakers were different levels of some FXs, usually reverb, that translate different way in the headphones and another way in the speakers.. sometimes differences in volume between instrument. Rarely noticed EQ problems. Still I'm looking forward to get my first pair and can't wait to hear some of my older stuff played back thru it. And again, thanks!
This YT comparison has the MR4s in mixing mode, which doesn't sound as flattering as the MR4's music mode. The music mode brings out some more bass and highs, and makes the sound wider.
The Presonus has an elevated treble, fooling people into thinking they have more detail. The MR4 is more accurate, but both are sh!t when it comes to performing as serious studio monitors but thats a given for their price.
@@EnGuruSamachaara i guess english isnt your one of your strengths. I mentioned its a given when you take the price into account. Did you understand that part? I also mentioned is shitty for serious studio monitor duties, BECAUSE IT IS. Try using these for mixing, and youll end up with a shitty mix. Its ok as pc speakers, its absolute horse sh!t as serious studio monitors. Did you get that part? Or do you want to continue your senseless ramblings about value, which has nothing to do with what I said initially?
mr4 was a bit more boxy and veiled imo.. from this sample. freq response is important but also over valued, due to this data reveals very little of the quality of sound produced
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thanks for everything, but please provide us with a working link to edifier mr4
I'm currently on the market for some monitors and I gotta say, this channel has proven so very useful - these comparison videos are the most tangible thing that we can base a purchase decision on. Granted, the real sound cannot be reproduced in a video, but you hear the relative differences between both units, which is very very useful!
Indeed! Did you choose yet? :)
@@Yoshi92yes! I went with the Edifiers after all and I don’t regret it :)
@@eddierey5202 Just got the Edifiers and I'm very happy, as well. Very solid product for the price point. Not sure if it's still running now, but as of mid-week, last week (9/21/23), Amazon had a $30 off coupon, making it a sweet deal ($99.99 before tax).
The Presonus 4.5 price is twice the MR4 in my country. So no brainer, the MR4 wins. Sound wise on certain songs with vocals, I prefer the Eris 4.5.
same in mine country- i am very pleased with overal signature of Mr4 but i am not doing music production - just some voice-over as non comercial hobby plus using them as general pc speakers - very good in this regard also i am using beyerdynamic cups 990 pro and 770 pro - for me for the price - doin its job !
The MR4 only cost 65$, the Eris E4.5 cost 170$ in Vietnam. I'll go for MR4
Eris 4.5 win. Mr4 thiếu dãy trung, thậm chí dãy cao bị xé ra.nghe một bản vinahuose thưởng thức thì được.eris 4.5 win.1 hãng chuyên nghiệp sẽ không bị đánh bại bởi thương hiệu lạ nhỏ
In my country they don't cost too differently than each other, 3.5 costs exactly the same as M4 but 4.5 is only 3-4k INR (or like 40 USD at most) more expensive
@@quocnhachannel7794chuẩn luôn, về độ mở không gian 2 con như nhau
Còn về dải mid con MR4 rỗng tuếch nghe hụt vãi chưởng
=> Vẫn cứ là tiền nào của đấy :))
I definitely feel the MR4 is more natural sounding with closer to flat overall response. On the other hand, the Presonus is being exposed as sightly weaker in the mids which enhances the audible highs. Both are very comparable speakers and honestly, you really can't go wrong with either.
As always, a great comparison!
Mostly agree here. However, when you factor in the price, the MR4s are far cheaper and therefore end up being much better value.
@@Tephnos i have the eris 4.5 here ..... and often my mix in my car sound too close in trebles and bassline is not ok. Maybe the mr4 is more flat in the trebles .... and maybe more bass ? I see 60Hz for mr4 and the eris are 70Hz. What you think ?
@@ChrisBessy Honestly, at this price range, I wouldn't expect actual professional quality. They're decent as reference monitors, but you'll never get accurate mixing from them, that's just too much to ask for at this price. Plus, the bass is never going to be accurate on a 4" woofer. It's just not possible, you will want 5-6" minimum to even start to work without a sub.
I disagree actually. Eris are a lot closer to the original source track.
@@lukastemberger Presonus Eris lineup bears a bright neutral sound profile to my ears on this sound test
I have a Presonus Eris 4.5 and it performs a great sound
If you compare this two monitors, the MR4 sounds warmer than Eris and it looks like the "frequency (L,M,H)" are well separated.
In my opinion, the MR4 are slightly focused on mid frequency and the Eris are little bit focused on mid/high and for me the high frequency is extented "shimmer" that is why you can hear a manageable harsh sound on it.
If you have a Presonus Eris 4.5 just tune down the high frequency knob by -2dB for me, depending on your area and it sounds fine.
If you want a budget friendly monitor, go for MR4
Either of the two you will get a good sounding studio monitors 😉
hey! thank you for this, im also planning to get 4.5 i really like how clear the vocals it gives. but that price comparisson is something to consider, like a huge lot.
Se escuchan bastante similares
Hay que considerar que el mr4 es mucho mas barato
For some reason the MR4 sound like they have more width or the sense of air-yness, like the one you get in a concert environment when the speakers are playing in an open space. They sound very open, and it's very hard to believe that, that sound is coming out of these little speakers because usually bigger speakers do that.
Was waiting for this, thanks!!!
Is it possible to compare the Adam Audio T5V vs the MR4?
Pricewise the mr4 compete with the eris e3.5, but seeing how their sound is more on the level of the e4.5, the mr4 are a no brainer, this clears any doubts one could have.
Amazing
Edifier MR4
i'll still prefer the mr4
love your videos!
If you have time pls lmk if presonus 4.5 and mr4 are same price then which would u suggest to average consumers? (mostly watch movies/youtube/just regular songs)
hmm they sound almost identical, then the graph show, well they look very similiar until vocal come in, MR4 has a litle bit bolder vocal, when eris is more airy vocal
MR4 me impressionou. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻💪🏻
The Edifier, closer to original track in a couple of tracks.
Presonus excellent detail, but in mainly in 2k and up. (Man on fire track), edifiers were boxy, presonus sounded better.
Presonus better on Deep, Edifier lacking detail of track.
I'm hearing the Q of the Edifier on some tracks,....
Edifiers, little warmer, (less information above 2k then Presonus,...but Edifiers lack sparkle, Presonus have a sheen over sound the track Edifiers more boxy SOUNDING.
Edifier, party speaker, sound ok, fun.
Presonus much more detail, a little more tactile, I think.
按照樓主測出E4.5 和 MR4 的頻響曲線近乎相似，但是E4.5的音場和動態感覺比MR4好一點點。E4.5的聲音比較開闊，MR4比較悶及窄。
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是的，经你这么一说我也感受到了。
I applaud your method. I haven't seen any other speaker comaparison on youtube (maybe they exist, I just haven't seen them), where they play the source file as a reference point so that no matter what you listen to the video through you know what original should sound like and how much the recordeds speakers deviate. Just a couple of improvements though. A) play the source for longer to start. B) There's no point switching between the speakers directly, you should always play source followed by speaker. So for each song it should be Source > Speaker A > Source > Speaker B. C) Always play the same section of the song as source and with both speakers. Just because it's the same song doesn't give a truly accurate comparison if you compare different segments as tone, harmonics etc never remain the same in different sections of the same song. Finally, why spend all this time and effort doing this for small no name unheard of (mostly cheap) brands of micro speakers?? Get some real speakers in, including floorstanders etc. Finally finally, there is something wrong with your setup which unfortunately make these entire videos pointless: Even speakers that you show as having low treble levels compared to the rest of their frequency curve sound a lot brighter than the source. It's not a matter of lack of bass either (becuase they're all small). The treble sounds too bright compared to the midrange and speakers that according to the frequency response should sound tonally dark or dull still sound bright compared to source.. I strongly suspect your microphone or something in the recording chain is boosting the mid to treble responses as it's technically impossible with a neutral recording chain to record a treble low speaker and have it sound bright compared to the source file.
I'm looking for a new pair of desktop/monitor speakers for my PC and currently listening your fantastic A/B tests on my Singxer SDA-1 DAC / Little Dot Mk VI tube headphone amplifier / Beyerdynamic Amiron Home setup.
I feel, the overall difference is in most cases are negligible and both speakers performs very well. The Presonus has a bit more detail, but a bit weaker sound. The Edifier has a bit more body and better base. I think both of them fit the bill, but comparing the prices (Presonus Eris E4.5 is Eur 185 while Edifier MR4 is Eur 130 here) the Edifier is a no brainer.
Please, continue your fantastic job!
I haven't heard the Presonus in person but did buy MR4s a few months ago. I've very happy with the MR4s, or at least I am with very minimal EQ tweaking, was very surprised by the responsive and well balanced midtones. My experience with the MR4s in person is very close to what I hear in this video and many others, in which I also find the Presonus' (both the 3.5 and 4.5) a little harsh to my ears - I feel like I would fatigue early with that default sound profle, which is less of a problem on the MR4s. Granted I use my MR4s for listening to music and media at my desk not for mixing in a studio - they definitely are intended for near field listening, drop off on the bass end at pretty low volume and don't fill a room up all that well. For the good sale prices you can get the Edifiers for (I bought directly from their website not Amazon) you can't really go wrong with them.
It would've been nice to hear the MR4's music mode compared to the Eris 4.5. In these clips, the MR4 is in mixing mode, which gives a flatter curve. I find the music mode to be more flattering of the sound, and would make for a better comparison when comparing how nice they sound when listening to music for entertainment.
Then why not adjust the Eris 4.5 to match music mode to make it fair?
@@portman8909 It could be tried, but their curves won't watch perfectly, and they'll continue to have their distinct sounds. The E4.5 have too much mid-scoop, IMO. I had both systems, and preferred the MR4.
I have the presonus on my desk. Even after two years they still surprize me. I also have some more expensive Edifier with a sub in my living room. They are good value, but they don't blow me away like the presonus.
with my eris 4.5 i can have so beautiful mids with lots of emotions in the sound. I dont know if they is it with the mr4 ......
Mr4 👍 winner
Resposta de frequência parecidíssima e as caixas são do mesmo tamanho, então por que o som das Eris parece tão mais vivo e o das MR4 mais fechado? Uma pessoa me explicou: é o amplificador que fica na caixa ativa: nas Eris é classe AB, nas MR4 é classe D, os classe AB produzem um som com maior fidelidade.
У JBL 305 mk2 d klass но они явно звучат гораздо лучше чем Presonus eris e4.5 почему я отказался от них потому что они просто на мозги давят своей компрессией как будто что больше четырёх песен у тебя мозг вскипел и уши в трубочку скрути Edifier mr4 лучше по всему и балансы высоких и средних частот они а меня стоят на столе .
In this comparison, price is the answer
Yeah if this were a boxing match, it'd go down to a narrow decision - there is no knock-out here. This is impressive given that the Edifiers cost less than half of the Presonus in my market. Still, both are really good and neutral, pleasant speakers. I prefer the MR4's on most tracks but the Presonus on some. Of course this test allows us to compare mostly the frequency response to the source, at one volume. I imagine the Presonus would be better at higher volumes.
if u want Presonus Eris 4.5 in budget, Edifier MR is anwser i think, nice comparassion thank dude
I am currently listening to this demo o through my Edifier MR4 speakers :) I have some nice Yamaha HS5s in my home studio , but was looking for a more mobile solution for my ipad recording set up and am very happy with my decision to go for the MR4s
Mr4 it not that loud bass is not that audible
In Australia, the HS3's are three times the price of MR4, wonder if they're 3 times better?
Здравствуйте ну и как вам Edifier mr4 по сравнению с yamaha ah5 напишите подробный ответ спасибо, интересует именно детализация высоких средних частот и сцена y Yamaha hs 50 звук бутылки
Can you make a video with the Pioneer DM-40 vs Edifier mr4? Thanks!
Great comparison. Since they are so similar, I'm inclined to opt for the MR4 which is cheaper, has the music mode, and is available in white. On thge other hand, the tweeter sounds better on the Eris, and the overall frequency response is slightly flatter then the MR4, on average, although that dip, just above 600Hz could be problematic. Many have reported background noise problems with the Eris 4.5. I wonder if the MR4 is better in that respect. I wish there was something like these, but with a sub output!
I love the tune Mortals you use. It's a good demonstration of over-compression and pumping. These are terrible for mixing guitar - either of them. The highs smear into the mids with both of these. I have listened to them both in person. Might be ok for playing music once the mix is done or streaming general listening but they can ruin a mix if you don't have experience with them. Once you know what something should sound like, then mix for that, but the speakers sound like something else, get something different. Now I aim for bands, compression holes and specific volumes instead of pitch. Meh anyway my two cents. Fun video.
@@k5k560 I have not had personal experience with the edifier but they are just for enjoying music and general listening. So they are going to have their own set of problems. But honestly I would stay away from them until they come out with a true studio level competitor.
The Presonus can have level corrections applied using SoundID reference software specifically for your room. But again you need to get an elite level Presonus product and they just can't compete with JBL and KALI for the price. But that is my opinion. Some people are so good at hearing issues like doubling and combing etc., and they are so good at mixing from having done it for years, that they can mix adequately on almost any "studio" monitor. I suggest no matter what you choose - go and get the SoundID Reference software and microphone. It helps you calibrates each speaker in space and time. I use it and it is great.
But I am a JBL and KALI AUDIO believer. Their engineering for studio always works for me and they have literally decades of experience over almost every other speaker monitor maker. You can get the Kali audio 5 vII for a reasonable price and they are great for general mix and listening once they are tuned for your room. The KALI also have built in DSP hard switches to adjust for room placement as well.
I hope this helps as I have no idea what level of experience or preference you are at and or have.
Good luck and have fun.
@@By_Rant_Or_Ruinbullshit ..u can mix on any speaker if u are experienced ..
Hello DSAUDIO, I was planning on getting the S360DB, but now that I've heard the MR4 I figure I might get a T5 and use its RCA passthrough to set up a 2.1 with the MR4. Do you think this would work better than the S360DB? Thank you!
Edifier MR4 vs JBL Series 104 please! :)
Cant believe how perfectly neutral MR4 is. After this test, Presonus feels like party speaker :D It has bigger bass, but boomy, less control, and highs emphasized to the ear rape level (Mortals). EQ that would trim Presonus peaks a bit would make it equal to MR4 i guess.
where can I find the deep music?
Hey man, can you compare the new Presonus Eris Pro 8 or 6 to the Tannoy 8 or 7?
Thanks!
Звук немного на стороне е 4,5. Но разницы почти нет между ними, если выбрать любой, в зависимости от цены, функций, размера и вида.
MR4 are just very nice to play rock music on, the midrange grown is excellent :)
can't you just adjust the bass on the presonus
I've compared both at home now and trust me when i say go for the Eris E4.5 if you make/produce music. If you just want to listen to music and you are low on your budget, go for the MR4. But not if you want to make/produce music. The tweeter on the E4.5 just sounds a lot better. The highs are in, how you say, higher resolution and just a lot higher quality. I've compared both of them while playing some pieces on my e-piano and the higher octaves sound muffled and even have scratching noises on the MR4. On the E4.5 however it sounds really good and crystal clear.
i need better bass
The eris sounds crystal clear my ass sounds boosted as fuck edifier sounds very balanced ..for mixing u need neutral sound and this is what the edifier is kinda of grot box where y don't have much fidelity u have not much experience in professional mixing it seems.
Hows MR4 compare to Edifier R1855DB
did edifier made a 5" version to compete with jbl 305 ?
And here we have the expected comparison! Definitely Presonus, but let's not leave aside the features that the Edifiers have (monitor mode / normal speaker mode)
My conclusion is :
- home studio / media production : Presonus
- for listening music movies : Edifier
Thanks again to the channel for another very useful comparison!
JBL 104 vs Edifier MR4 if possible pls. Can't decide between these two.
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Max volume in sound test?
Hello, I have been watching your channel for a very long time. Thank you, I love your tests!
I have to change my speakers, I have little space and a budget of 300 euros max, to listen to FLAC in the best condition.
Between Edifier 1280, 1700, 1850, MR4, Presonus eris 4.5 and the superb Edifier S880db? More I listen to your tests, more I hesitate...I don't know what to choose...Can you help me please? Your opinion will be valuable to me. Thank you again.
Mr4
It really depends on what speakers you are using while watching this. My wife's laptop is using the Edifier MR4 (White color). I am watching this video on my PC with Creative Sound Blaster X Katana soundbar. Really, the Edifier MR4 I heard was not as nice as what I am hearing in this video with my soundbar now.
Please review and compare the new Q Acoustics M20 HD. It would be great to hear the difference with studio monitors as they are more like Hi fi speakers. Great channel btw. Subscribed!
Edifiers are closer to neutral, but I can see why people say they sound boxy. The Eris has sparkle on the high end which isn't bad. At the end of the day is personal preference with these. Personally, I'd be happy with either of these.
Presonus speakers are better, the price is higher, but the sound is clearer. I'm just going to return Mr4 to the store .
Me siguen gustando mas los presonus pero los mr4 valen menos de la mitad!
Suena mejor el Presonus. Me voy por ellos 😃👍🏼
Siento que para producción como monitores de estudio son mejores los edifier mr4 por el vídeo se nota más plano el sonidoi mientras que los prosonus tienen más brillo en agudos lo cual para producción no es bueno eso
Please compare Presonus Eris E4.5 vs JBL 305P MKII
Nice ! thanks
Edifier is slightly boosted around 200 to 500 base on my hiring
Presonus Eris E4.5 качественнее твитер ?
E4.5 wins (for me). Good spacial sound. Open sound. Clean and detailed. Beauty. Protections. 8 watts more power. And price? More expensive... is bad, yes. But Amplifier Class AB (good and durable). Againt MR4 Class D (more or less).
Where is digital input? Both. Limited conections.
They are kinda close tbh, MR4 more neutral but eris is nice
is there a big difference between mr4 and iloud micro monitors?
The ilouds have a clearer sound with a bit of focus on mids.Sound is very focused and clear.
The MR4 sound a bit more balanced with a wider soundstage. Less focused and not as clear.
ilouds also have more bass extension, but in my opinion a bit too much.
If I had to decide though I would prefer the ilouds for movies because its easier to listen to voices, while using the MR4 for music as it has more emotion. You definitely have to listen louder with the MR4 than on the ilouds to get good sound.
Ilouds are neutral tuned with additional deep bass(dsp tuned), probably will compress more at higher lvls, this one seems like a natural tuned sound and probably flatter, not necessary to say better though.
-Presonus looks to be made with higher quality materials, which also makes it look better. MR4 is also as white though
-MR4 is smaller
-MR4 looks a bit boxy in these transitions for example 2:00 3:44
-Presonus sounds more open in transition at 8:57
-MR4 bass is more sublte at 9:28 transition, but sounds more boxed again
In my country Presonus is 180€ and MR4 is 130€. I would rather go for Presonus if I had to choose from black models, but when Edifier is also in white, this makes it more challenging. Size may be also one factor. Soundwise presonus is better in my opinion.
Monitors should not sound better the presonus are forward sounding the means you will cut more ad you will think is more in the mix
Presonus with no doubt !
presonus is louder but a bit muddy :(
Sound of mr4 is more like real studio monitor; dull, natural and clear.( I own an Alesis Monitor One). Maybe E4.5 is clearer cause of the treble and is not natural. I notice mr4 make sound testing against other expensive studio monitors. I know they are really good. I'm glad I bought mr4 twice cheaper than E4.5.
Listening to this video on Senn HD600, the MR4 seems more flat and the E4.5 seems to be V-shaped with stronger highs. The low end seems better on E4.5 but surely not 2x the price better. Anyway, MR4 switch is misleading. If you go to audiosciencereview they've measured the Music mode to be better, more accurate. Maybe E5 are much better than MR4 but that's almost 250% the price.
@@rikimiki12 I guess so, e4. 5 is higher price, I agree it's produce much clearer sound than mr4. But I'm impressed it can hit very low end in such a small size. I bought it for the low price.
@@onlinespecialpo8171 I'm getting MR4 too. Where I live it's exactly 2x the price of E4.5 and I can't find a reason for that price. Those living in US have even more better options at Presonus price range but those brands aren't selling in Europe
@@rikimiki12 yes, same reason i get mr4. It closer to e4. 5 to comparing the sound and low end.
Edifiers dont hiss and dont have bluetooth nonsense. Perfect computer speakers imo.
I have mr4 and they hiss
Connect them with balanced TRS cables/or get higher quality shielded cables and don’t plug into whatever get a good soundcard
I just had these two monitor speakers here: On stands the Eris 3.5 sound much more free, with the music not "clinging" to the speakers as it does on the Edifiers. The Edifiers sound like good PC speakers, the Eris 3.5 more like real monitor speakers. The Edifiers have more body, but the sound image is too flat spatially. Sent the Edifiers back.
Понимаю, - видео не отражает живого звука. Слушал с закрытыми глазами, открывал глаза на звуке который мне больше нравится. Открывал глаза и предо мной был Presonous.
Bought a MR4 ( in sales )couple months ago for my keyboard arranger (with NS 100 subwoofer support ). Nice sounding monitor and Music mode sound more neutral flat than monitor mode. Sadly the unit i own has defective tweeter on main unit. Distort sound with piano voice and brass voice. Never has similar issue on R2800,R2000, S1000MK II and other low cost edifier speaker i been own. Edifier always has nice and strong tweeter on their product. Return it and i with edifier will launch the MR5 with 5 in woofer speaker soon along with better quality tweeter.
Hi!! Thanks for your hard works. If possible, please make a comparison of MR4 vs HS5
Presonus is way better... I think r1700bt is the best comparison with this monitors
Are you ok bud ?
i know this comparison isn't related, but im looking to buy either Logitech Z625 2.1 or Edifier MR4 2.0 for 8.5x8.5 room. My priority is music, I also love gaming and film on PC. Any advice would be appreciated.
Presonus E4.5, of course, but needs a sub.
Cannot distinguish both.. but i think eris is slightly better in medium range. Both cannot reach original sound track.
Pioneer DJ DM-40D 🗿🍺
To my ears, it's edifier.. Presonus sounds harsh to me
Mr4 has smoother treble, true.
Mr4 so good
ADAM T7V vs ADAM T8V
hs5 vs mr4 pleaaaase
the sound is very identical, this is just a match, it's amazing that the edifier mr4 can match the sound of the PreSonus Eris E4.5
вообще почти нет разницы, только в цене)
Edifiers have VERY loud hissing and "boomy", '"box-like" sound (see the frequency response, lift at 400-500 hz). But they're still nice cheap start level monitors. Presonuses are more preсise, of course. But they have a hissing too (less than Edifiers)
Have you used any other Edifier models like the r1280t? They hiss, but it is hardly what I would call 'loud', and I'd be surprised if the MR4 was any louder than the r1280t. I've also heard comments about the 4.5 having too much hum, but this seems to be a common fault with them that develops over time. Weird.
On more reading, it appears the Presonus speakers in general are *very* poorly shielded and will often hum/hiss due to things in their surroundings?
@@Tephnos Yep, I have used other Edifier. 980, 1280, 2800. But we are speaking about other monitors, which the mr4 compared to.
@@webstudius I'll be honest, I've used Genelecs (8030c) that hiss louder than the r1280t. If that's the baseline that the MR4 hiss level is like then it is already doing pretty good.
Unfortunately, I can confirm that MR4 hiss louder than other Edifier models I tested. They hiss on par with E4.5 but less than CR4-X for example, so they are somewhere in the middle of other budget studio monitors in that regard
@@DSAUDIOreview Interesting that everyone seems to have different perceptions of the hiss levels. I wonder if it is due to unit variance or something.
MR4 в 2 раза дешевле Eris .. и полностью стоят своих денег.. хотя лучше чуть доплатить и взять трехполосники 2750 или 2800
Edfier MR4 Studio Monitors... 2800 и патом 2750 ета ни маниторжи тока акуститичиски калонка Edifier MR4 ета професионални манитор
@@Sardor_Bilol профи мониторы начинаются от Ямахи HS8 - всё что ниже далеко не проф.. а в трехполосниках звук не хуже чем дешевых мониторах
Низнайу мне нинравится трих палосних ета студио не будит адмануют ета новим мадел MR4 паслушил сразу нравился мне кому как мне ни ентересна трих палосни
Guys please help i need to buy one of them!With one are better.
presonus all the way, altho the edifier is good presonus imaging is more expansive and with a nice
presonus imaging is more expansive and with a nice depth to it.
also presonus is more authoritative, punchier and accurate.
however, they are close......just not the same
Presonus хороши давят на мозги Edifier mr4 звучат почти как оригинал Eris нет . Я аыбираю mr4
Mr4
Presonus !
Presonus
Eris are more flatter, balanced & complete sounding, MR4s have boxy & radio like tone
That radio like tone is slightly elevated mids, which is better for monitors. Most instruments are in midrange, and you want them to stand out. Typical speaker has V-shape frequencies, where loudness drops in the mids - it works for relaxed listening, where nothing stands out. Monitors should NOT give relaxed sound, it should serve for production with lots of equalization tweaking.
@@kingie66 First I need to say I'm a total amateur in this, ok? But using logic ( my logic..:D ) why would anyone want to mix on something they aren't listening it on? You say most speakers will have 'v' shape EQ setting. Then, WHY NOT to mix exsactly on those? Say most instruments will be in that mid range and 'V' shape EQ will surpress that down.. What do you do on studio monitor then? Elevate it up? So why not doing it on 'V' EQ shapped speakers? Do you miss those instrument there? Well bring them up.. BOOM! Done.. :) And I don¨t even wanna go deep into who and how they are listenning most productions. ( teenager with his heapdhones on the street, back yeard, park lot in their car, subway with AAAAAALL those amazing aditional ambient sounds.. ) Anyway, I really only wanna see more of the logic here.. In my case that's a bit different, I'm ( mostly ) rock drummer, who writes music using symphonic instruments. But I also know people DO NOT listen it the way I wish they did. ( Of course except of VERY few ) From what I know ( so far ) people mix using SO unbelievable elaborate systems ( cables, microphones, consoles etc.) to get their products MOSTLY to that teenager in a noisy environment, or, to a party, where everyone is at least tipsy ( in the better case ) yelling, jumping and.. enjoying the clarity of the mix?? Of the different frequencies?? Or what is it that normal speakers couldn't give these consumers?? Even in movies, when the music is on, mostly there will be aditional sounds and noises.. That's not to say that good product could be created on a shity system, but why studion monitors, really? Please don't take this as some kind of laugh to those that do understand it, I'm really only using a logic of an amateur. Thanks for any responses..
@@radeksikldrumming3970 I am no pro either(and Im not trying to act audiophile elitist:D). To my understanding, monitor purpose is for detailed instrument separation, that should be neutral, free from as much negative effects(like hiss, bominess, distortions..) as possible. I was trying to point, that for listening, monitor neutrality is advantage, because response to EQ allows for highly customizable result. As you say, it makes no sense to ignore usual speakers/phones for production, so monitors shouldnt be the only reference tool, just some kind of "filter". Yes some people and genres want fun V-sound, some wanting more analytic precision. So imho finding middle ground is the key - and necessity, coz many reproduction devices will have some boost functions on. That could screw the sound into negative effects if track source is already too much V-shaped.
@@kingie66 Thank you for your answer. I think, to ensure most consumer's happiness, the middle ground as you say must be the way. Next think just HAS to be the producer's individual taste. I believe this video should roughly show the differences between the two different speakers as I think we CAN'T hear what is really going on there sitting in front of our comps. Then I think most comments here are not much of a worth. I think if one can't hear it, a comment won't help. I'm just really curious about what's gonna be comming out of my work once I start mixing on studio monitors for till now I mixed on my studio headphones ( not those for musicians themself ) and the only problem with playing back on say 'normal' speakers were different levels of some FXs, usually reverb, that translate different way in the headphones and another way in the speakers.. sometimes differences in volume between instrument. Rarely noticed EQ problems. Still I'm looking forward to get my first pair and can't wait to hear some of my older stuff played back thru it. And again, thanks!
This YT comparison has the MR4s in mixing mode, which doesn't sound as flattering as the MR4's music mode. The music mode brings out some more bass and highs, and makes the sound wider.
Presonus для меня играют чище и прозрачнее.
Mr4 is MUCH cheaper, so to me its a no brainer hahaha
The Presonus has an elevated treble, fooling people into thinking they have more detail. The MR4 is more accurate, but both are sh!t when it comes to performing as serious studio monitors but thats a given for their price.
They are not shitty. They are giving exactly what they are priced for. Value!
Comparing them to high end 5 inch speakers would be a shitty comparison.
@@EnGuruSamachaara i guess english isnt your one of your strengths. I mentioned its a given when you take the price into account. Did you understand that part? I also mentioned is shitty for serious studio monitor duties, BECAUSE IT IS. Try using these for mixing, and youll end up with a shitty mix. Its ok as pc speakers, its absolute horse sh!t as serious studio monitors. Did you get that part? Or do you want to continue your senseless ramblings about value, which has nothing to do with what I said initially?
@@AbsoluteFidelity well I’m not the one rambling with the big paragraphs. Calm down kid
@@EnGuruSamachaara go play in your corner all by yourself with 'value'.
mr4 was a bit more boxy and veiled imo.. from this sample. freq response is important but also over valued, due to this data reveals very little of the quality of sound produced
there is no bass in each
Presonus 👍
Presonus win
Edifier needs 5.5'' or 3 ways..and bluetooth..