@@johngaynor7819 Mark Hamill will forever be best Joker to me, but you can't just abuse Troy like that either. He was playing The Joker in the Arkham franchise, sort of had to do his best to imitate Hamill. All in all, he did pretty good. And let's be honest, if it was Baker who came first, we'd be calling Hamill the cheap imitation
@@Nice_Guy3012 yeah but he never would of came up with that voice on his own. He copied hamill plain and simple the mannerisms the tone it’s all too similar and idk what it is about hamills joker but I feel his joker more authentic hamills voice sounds much like troys joker but there a subtle but undeniable difference that sets them apart
Anyone else notice how Troy's not only sounds younger, the his mannerisms and voice make it sound like he has more of a level head, and knows what his goal is. It kinda gives the impression that the joker became way more insane by Arkham Asylum, and I kinda love that.
Mark's Joker sounds more raspier over the years when compared to when he first started in the Animated Series which was a little more higher pitched and wimsical when he laughed, which is understandable since Mark got older. Troy's version is like how Mark sounded in the Animated Series but more serious and brutal.
Troy Baker's Joker voice is young, dark, and impulsive, while Mark Hamill's Joker is old, patient, and calculating. Basically, young joker is arrogant, and old joker is just more relaxed. In conclusion, they're both awesome. By the way, I haven't played the game... yet. =)
Mark Hamills batman's voice comes more from the throat, you can get hear the sound of him kinda grunting to make the voice, Troy's is smoother and deeper. They are still amazing
Troy sounds like a younger Joker. Since it's a prequel 5 years before Arkham Asylum + Troy copied Hamils personality which he had to do in order to the story and he's done this great
Dang. I didn't expect to hear another VA for the Joker that could measure up to Mark. But, especially as he continues to gain experience, I think we have a good man to carry the torch.
Taking a joker role in movies would be scary for any actor,afraid to flop,since the performances of the joker by Heath Ledger but i too think Troy could maybe make a good joker too
Also, to those who say that he is just a voice actor - some of Troy's roles were full performance capture, and you can see how great he is in behind the scenes footages. The fact that he can emote so well even with a goofy motion capture suit strapped on him is a huge testament to his talent..
@Tanikaze Origins is a great game and my personal favorite. It's bad reputation is purely the work of Rocksteady making a concerted effort to disown it* and encourage fans to do the same. It's a dick measuring contest between Rocksteady and WB Montreal, really. *These are obvious examples, but the marketing hammered home that Arkham Knight was the final chapter of a "trilogy," despite being the fourth game. And they made sure that Origins was pointedly left off the Return to Arkham collection, which sucks because there's not a good way to play it on current gen systems. At this point, I'd accept a straight port to the Switch rather than it not being easily available.
Even though Troy is mimicking Hamil for the most part, I prefer his laugh I think. It's more dynamic. Overall, Mark's Joker has more emotional range, but if I were picking a favorite on laugh alone I'd pick Troy.
I personally like Mark Hamill’s Joker a little more since he has been playing the character for so long. However, Troy does amazingly well, especially since he has to follow in Hamill’s footsteps. They are both talented, but Hamill’s will always have a special place in my heart since I grew up with him.
Troy Baker is soo talented...He plays younger joker soo well. Then the next game he becomes both two face and Arkham Knight.Seems like developers can't seem to get enough of him...
Both of them are great! I grew up watching Batman the animated series and Mark Hamill is the one I listen growing up. Troy Baker copied Mark Hamill’s Joker and that’s a good thing. He captures Joker very well
It’s clear that Troy was told to just “sound like Mark.” But, joker is clearly younger and more brutal with how he talks. He’s less refined. He sounds like he’s just coming up with his maniacal shit as he goes. Mark’s joker sounds like a more rehearsed performance. The younger joker had less satire and pizazz, which I think fits
Yes it does, at the begging of Arkham Origins it’s abundantly clear that joker wants Batman dead and if he has the chance to kill him he doesn’t do it himself, he sends goons like bane because it’s like it’s beneath him. It’s until he’s saved by Batman when the Gotham royale explodes that he is intrigued by him and starts to make all the theatrics he usually does in the future games (his plan with the heart monitor)
origins had a phenomenal cast that really depicts the youth in the characters. Roger Craig Smith plays batman so well, and the for Troy Baker's joker. When it comes to playing these characters years into their career, Conroy and Hamil are the best.
We all know marks time is coming. I’m glad Troy baker is someone capable of respecting his legacy and doing just as good of a job as mark does. They are both brilliant.
Both their performances are great. What really breaks it for Mark, though, is the laugh. The Joker is nothing without his laugh, and Mark's performance portrays such an insane glee that Troy, despite his skills, really just can't match.
Mark's Joker voice has a good ragged raspiness sound thanks to his age which makes him sound more "damaged". (sorry for any suicide squad ptsd that i might have just caused!) Troy sounds like someone younger trying to do an impression of Mark but its missing the rasp. :P
Now that Hamill its not going to play Joker anymore they should cast Troy as Joker in next videogames and animated movies. He is a worthy succesor of Hamill.
It's amazing how the original voice actor does a voice talent, and then another voice actor has the same ability. Like, the comparison is so close, you can barely tell the difference between them. They LITERALLY sound exactly the same and on point all the way. WMGA (World's Most Gifted Actors) 👏👏👏👏
Mark said his final Joker role was Arkham Knight. So, if they make another Arkham game or whatever, and they want The Joker in it, then they’ll have to call in Troy.
Now I’d like to see Mark Hamill and Troy Baker together in something and they voice an older and younger joker respectively in one setting. A passing the torch moment for the ages.
Mark Hamill is the original and Genius. Couldnt help thinking Troy tried to follow Hamill's style but still he did exceptionally well too. And there is John Dimaggio (BM:Under the Redhood) who also brought something new and refreshing. If I have to rank, Hamill will be the first, Dimaggio second and Troy third, very close to each other. All their 3 jokers are a delight to hear.
I think Troy knew he couldn’t do better than Mark Hamil, so he wanted to do his best to replicate him without being an exact copy. Both do a fantastic joker.
Jesus… if I shut my eyes, I almost couldn’t tell the difference between the two. Thank God I’ve heard Mark Hamill do it for so many years that I can tell, but Damn, Troy…. Thank God for you!!!
I think more extreme emotions like straight anger and striaght Joy(his main laughing), Troy is better. He is after an overall insane voice actor. However, more subtle things like regular talking are much more unsettling when Hamill talks. He understands the character much more than Troy obv. And his laugh, while not being technically more realistic than Troy’s, I think is still better. He’s able to do different laughs for different scenes. So overall, ofc Hamill is better but goddamn I think Troy could fill in for him now that Hamill’s stepped down.
Troy Baker is a insane voice actor, plays a really good joker next to Mark Hamill, plays Booker Dewitt in Bioshock Infinite, Joel from The Last of Us and The main Villain from Far Cry 4
Mark will always be the Joker, but Troy did a hell of a job living up to the iconic role.
I agree
I mean he basically tried to copy Mark Hammil he did a good job but i can tell the difference mark was better Troy is a cheap imitation
My parents thought Troy was Hamill in The Long Halloween lol
@@johngaynor7819 Mark Hamill will forever be best Joker to me, but you can't just abuse Troy like that either. He was playing The Joker in the Arkham franchise, sort of had to do his best to imitate Hamill. All in all, he did pretty good. And let's be honest, if it was Baker who came first, we'd be calling Hamill the cheap imitation
@@Nice_Guy3012 yeah but he never would of came up with that voice on his own. He copied hamill plain and simple the mannerisms the tone it’s all too similar and idk what it is about hamills joker but I feel his joker more authentic hamills voice sounds much like troys joker but there a subtle but undeniable difference that sets them apart
Troy baker isn’t as raspy as Mark
Hamill, so actually by portraying the younger joker, I think it works perfectly.
Agreed
troy baker sucks
@@Batman12-f9u why didn't you get casted then? 🧐
@@massiveonigiri They probably didn't audition.
mark's joker got raspier with age
Troy is like a younger Joker
Well, Arkham Origins is a prequel so I suppose that's a good thing.
@@knightfallprotocol exactly.
I think that’s the reason they switched the voice actors and chose Troy spisifically to play a younger joker
Of course he is
Let's not forget Troy did a good job as Batman and Joker too at Batman versus TMNT.
Mark Hamill : Legendary
Troy Baker : Genius
I like how both sound similar the only difference is one sounds older the other younger
Oscar Cordero origins is a prequel so thats good
@@exglued2394 I know but that's what I like about Troy's interpretation
@@exglued2394 it's Not good Since it made so Many continueity errors
Joker wore purple... As the saints
Troy Baker is who to get if you can’t get Mark Hamill for any reason
Yes. Troy Baker is like trying to imitate Mark Hamill
Troy Baker is who to get if you can't get ______ for _______ XD
What about John demagio
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@@pqjanro18 Yes. He's pretty much imitating Hammil... But when Hammil is the best Joker voice ever.. Imitating him is a good idea..
He did exactly what they wanted. He sounded like a younger version of Mark Hamill’s Joker!
Anyone else notice how Troy's not only sounds younger, the his mannerisms and voice make it sound like he has more of a level head, and knows what his goal is. It kinda gives the impression that the joker became way more insane by Arkham Asylum, and I kinda love that.
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Mark's Joker sounds more raspier over the years when compared to when he first started in the Animated Series which was a little more higher pitched and wimsical when he laughed, which is understandable since Mark got older. Troy's version is like how Mark sounded in the Animated Series but more serious and brutal.
not really
Not atall really but Troy did a good job at Joker either way
Fairly spot on
You're not wrong.
Troy is the perfect successor to mark
Hamill is the dad and Baker is the son. End of conversation.
step son 😉
And John DiMaggio is the uncle
troy baker sucks
@@Batman12-f9u Shut the fuck up, he does NOT suck!!!
@@Batman12-f9u You suck more.Some people dont know how to make jokes.
3:16 that low sounding laugh is probably my favorite style. Lol so sick! Both absolutely incredible!
Yo same! It actually creeped the hell out of me
Idk but Troy entirely succeeded at making young Joker come off emotionally unstable. They're both perfectly fitted for their prospective Joker.
amazing take
Troy Baker's Joker voice is young, dark, and impulsive, while Mark Hamill's Joker is old, patient, and calculating. Basically, young joker is arrogant, and old joker is just more relaxed. In conclusion, they're both awesome.
By the way, I haven't played the game... yet.
=)
"Mark Hamill's Joker is old, patient, and calculating". People don't really age that much in just 5 years.
@@iceman1287 According to the Arkham wiki, Origins and Asylum are 9 years apart. That's enough time for aging, especially in a place like Gotham
@@iceman1287 I love Both hearing The Cast of Joker Clown Prince of Crime Video Comparison!😅
To show that Troy Baker is a good Joker, Mark Hamill actually gave his blessing to Troy Baker when Baker got the part in Arkham Origins.
Mark Hamills batman's voice comes more from the throat, you can get hear the sound of him kinda grunting to make the voice, Troy's is smoother and deeper. They are still amazing
Troy's joker sounds darker and more mysterious/badass and has more energy and more intmidating than mark's which is more playful
@@Anubis-xk4ht Yup. Monsieur Baker straight up gave me the bad goosebumps.
I prefer insanity to intimidation lulz
Troy sounds like a younger Joker. Since it's a prequel 5 years before Arkham Asylum + Troy copied Hamils personality which he had to do in order to the story and he's done this great
troy does not have like an impressive or weird voice or laughs
He doesnt give me hes going to torture me while laughing vibes even though he does it in the game
Troy basically followed Mark's style and did a brilliant job
troy baker sucks
@@Batman12-f9u nah that’s mark honestly
@@The_king567 troy baker literally copies Mark Hamill
@@The_king567 Mark doesn't suck
@@The_king567 troy sucks
I don't know why but it gives me a lot of satisfaction how Troy's laugh sounds. It is without a doubt the perfect successor to Hamill
Dang. I didn't expect to hear another VA for the Joker that could measure up to Mark. But, especially as he continues to gain experience, I think we have a good man to carry the torch.
both are good
True
@Badass Batman We are talking about animation and games. Not live action. Also Jaret Leto sucks as Joker!
@@manuelmakesartz I think he was joking...
@@iamgood1484 Hmmm...maybe....
@Badass Batman bruh
Why isn't Troy Baker a live action Joker yet he's got the voice and body for it. I have an idea why not make him the Battinson Joker.
cause wb is run by idiots
@Draifu If your on Depps side like me, it's rumored Johny Depp might be Battinson's Joker
Taking a joker role in movies would be scary for any actor,afraid to flop,since the performances of the joker by Heath Ledger but i too think Troy could maybe make a good joker too
Also, to those who say that he is just a voice actor - some of Troy's roles were full performance capture, and you can see how great he is in behind the scenes footages. The fact that he can emote so well even with a goofy motion capture suit strapped on him is a huge testament to his talent..
I wish he did Live action. But isn't he just a voice actor? I mean Im sure he could do it lol he seems talented enough
Troy just copied Mark. That doesn’t mean it’s bad. Just troy continues the legendary perfectly
Considering its the same character, as Origins is a prequel, thats what he shouldve done
@@earendilthemariner5546 Sadly, many people won't understand that. Origins Writing isn't as bad as its game reputation huh? xD
@@tanikaze7697 actually, that game has the best depiction of the both characters out side of the comics
@Tanikaze Origins is a great game and my personal favorite. It's bad reputation is purely the work of Rocksteady making a concerted effort to disown it* and encourage fans to do the same. It's a dick measuring contest between Rocksteady and WB Montreal, really.
*These are obvious examples, but the marketing hammered home that Arkham Knight was the final chapter of a "trilogy," despite being the fourth game. And they made sure that Origins was pointedly left off the Return to Arkham collection, which sucks because there's not a good way to play it on current gen systems. At this point, I'd accept a straight port to the Switch rather than it not being easily available.
@@slochedplays9585 Your last point makes me think of the reason why pc masterrace exists lmao
Once mark get too old for the job Troy is the way to go but mark will always be a legendary Joker and the best at that
Man, troy filled those shoes well
troy baker sucks
Disagree, he sounds like a totally different character. Lol.
@@RDR911Not really. He gets quite close. I don't think they could've chosen anyone better to play a younger Hamill Joker.
Troy baker did such a good job trying to live up to Mark hamils amazing voice acting
Troy's voice is a bit darker and more intmidating than mark
Marks isn’t intimidating but is scary it has an unnerving rasp and joyous tone that makes some of the horrifying things he says even more unnerving.
Yes. Indeed!
I disagree
It’s exactly how a younger joker should be. Just wants to kill batman before realising that they are the same in some way
@@blissridden that's due to the writing tho
Troy Baker definitely sounds a lot like what Mark Hamill did in the animated series
1:42 woah, when did Joel get here
From funhaus?
@@Jessejezzz from tlou
@@him6439 i know ...
I thought it would be somewhat funnily relatable therefore it's funny.
Guess not.
They are the same voice actors. I don't know if you already know that but yeah
Olav Holmberg “Wanna Hear something?”
Troy Baker could literally play a Live action Joker. He’s got the laugh, the smile, the hair. He’d be brilliant to.
I bet when Troy is a little older he’ll sound more like Mark
well he is already 45 but I get your point !
@@HannaGalaxy37 damn I thought he was a little younger than that but factz
@@blaccnite3362 Troy and Mark sound nothing alike regardless.
Hamill, he has that underlining gruffness in his voice, my favorite of all time! So creepy.
Arkham Origins is so underrated I've been hoping for a remaster of it for the longest
The fact that Troy has played both Batman and The Joker
So similar and yet so distinctive. Amazing
Even though Troy is mimicking Hamil for the most part, I prefer his laugh I think. It's more dynamic. Overall, Mark's Joker has more emotional range, but if I were picking a favorite on laugh alone I'd pick Troy.
I personally like Mark Hamill’s Joker a little more since he has been playing the character for so long. However, Troy does amazingly well, especially since he has to follow in Hamill’s footsteps. They are both talented, but Hamill’s will always have a special place in my heart since I grew up with him.
Troy Baker is soo talented...He plays younger joker soo well. Then the next game he becomes both two face and Arkham Knight.Seems like developers can't seem to get enough of him...
Troy Baker: I'm the one who's trying to kill you
Heath Ledger: I'm not trying to kill you. What am I going to do without you?
Brooo. I found this out like now. Troy Baker did a hella good job. I really loved his joker.
Troy sounds like Mark Hamill first did in the animated series before he aged, and his voice went more gravely
You can hear the insanity in mark’s joker
Both of them are great! I grew up watching Batman the animated series and Mark Hamill is the one I listen growing up. Troy Baker copied Mark Hamill’s Joker and that’s a good thing. He captures Joker very well
It’s clear that Troy was told to just “sound like Mark.” But, joker is clearly younger and more brutal with how he talks. He’s less refined. He sounds like he’s just coming up with his maniacal shit as he goes. Mark’s joker sounds like a more rehearsed performance. The younger joker had less satire and pizazz, which I think fits
Yes it does, at the begging of Arkham Origins it’s abundantly clear that joker wants Batman dead and if he has the chance to kill him he doesn’t do it himself, he sends goons like bane because it’s like it’s beneath him. It’s until he’s saved by Batman when the Gotham royale explodes that he is intrigued by him and starts to make all the theatrics he usually does in the future games (his plan with the heart monitor)
So in shorter words..... you're trying to say that troy is better right
ghost of death no, I’m saying that Troy is different
@@maximalist5038 troy is a whole darker and more impulsive mark seems totally tame in comparison to troy who feels more batshit crazy
origins had a phenomenal cast that really depicts the youth in the characters. Roger Craig Smith plays batman so well, and the for Troy Baker's joker.
When it comes to playing these characters years into their career, Conroy and Hamil are the best.
We all know marks time is coming. I’m glad Troy baker is someone capable of respecting his legacy and doing just as good of a job as mark does. They are both brilliant.
Marks laugh is more of a villain laugh but Troys was more of a exited psycho
0:00 Mark Hamill’s joker is legendary!
Both are amazing, but Mark's laugh is probably the best, most terrifying sound in the world
mark hamill version got that insanity + madness portrayed perfectly.
troy baker is more like the quiet and mastermind version.
the arkham origins voice casting is so good that I didn't realize there was no hamill and conroy in the game until I got to the middle of the game
Kinda weird knowing Troy also voices Joel in The Last Of Us.
He’ll be a great candidate for Joker’s voice now that Mark Hamill stepped down the role
Mark hamill’s joker will always be my fav
Considering Mark is retired now from playing joker, I think Troy is the next best one we got
Hamill is uncontested, but Troy does a heck of a job.
after watching this again, joker in arkham origins just reminds me of a smartass british villain
Both their performances are great. What really breaks it for Mark, though, is the laugh. The Joker is nothing without his laugh, and Mark's performance portrays such an insane glee that Troy, despite his skills, really just can't match.
Mark's Joker voice has a good ragged raspiness sound thanks to his age
which makes him sound more "damaged". (sorry for any suicide squad ptsd that i might have just caused!)
Troy sounds like someone younger trying to do an impression of Mark but its missing the rasp. :P
Troy has the closest voice to Mark. If only he could go into live action acting, that would be such a gift to every DC/comic book fan.
Now that Hamill its not going to play Joker anymore they should cast Troy as Joker in next videogames and animated movies. He is a worthy succesor of Hamill.
Troy Baker plays a pretty young Joker
also i love @2:25 right after the best boss fight, we get the best moment of batman loosing his mind, and that creepy ass distorted laugh, love it
I find Mark Hamill's voice is more intimidating
I didn't even know it wasn't Hamill. Really good job by Baker.
They are both good I think Troy should play a younger joker and mark for an older joker
I love both marks and troys joker equally truly fantastic actors playing one genocide crazed clown a work of art for generations
1:49 my favorite part of the video lol
If Luke Skywalker turned to the Dark Side.
Mark Hamill is the best Joker voice and Troy Baker is real good at what he does
It's amazing how the original voice actor does a voice talent, and then another voice actor has the same ability. Like, the comparison is so close, you can barely tell the difference between them. They LITERALLY sound exactly the same and on point all the way. WMGA (World's Most Gifted Actors) 👏👏👏👏
Troy sounds more like a younger take on the joker, like Hamill's version from the old cartoon
If you guys didn’t know, mark hamill also plays the trickster in the 90s flash and the 2014 flash tv shows
Troy Baker actually scared the shit out of me as a kid and looking back at it like many of you I don’t understand why
“We both exist because of them” chilling.
Troy did an outstanding job portraying the character, he truly feels like the Joker. But Mark Hamill will always be the perfect Joker in my eyes
I don't how Mark Hamill managed to pull off a sickly laugh like that in Arkham City, he sounded so genuinely sick in that
Marks laugh is perfect
**As he crashes to his death** "I'LL BE IN TOUCH!!!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I laughed way too hard at that part
Mark said his final Joker role was Arkham Knight. So, if they make another Arkham game or whatever, and they want The Joker in it, then they’ll have to call in Troy.
Mark did voice in The Killing Joke movie.
troy does a great job sounding like a younger version to make hamills interpretation
They're both absolutely legendary, and if Hamill ever stopped being Joker, Baker could definitely carry on the legend.
Troy Baker sounds just like Mark Hamill did in the 90s animated series
2:54 that reminds me one scene of te dark knight when Batman throws up the Joker into the void laughing and then Batman saves the Joker.
Now I’d like to see Mark Hamill and Troy Baker together in something and they voice an older and younger joker respectively in one setting. A passing the torch moment for the ages.
I swear sometimes you thought that it was Mark doing the voice in Origins. Troy was phenomenal voicing the Joker.
I think the laughs are on par, and Troy’s voice acting is INCREDIBLY smooth, the grit and exaggeration of Mark’s has so much more personality to it
REST IN PEACE KEVIN CONROY
There has never been one bad Joker actor, they just get fucked over by the writers.
Mark Hamill is the original and Genius. Couldnt help thinking Troy tried to follow Hamill's style but still he did exceptionally well too. And there is John Dimaggio (BM:Under the Redhood) who also brought something new and refreshing. If I have to rank, Hamill will be the first, Dimaggio second and Troy third, very close to each other. All their 3 jokers are a delight to hear.
"Officer balls"
I think Troy knew he couldn’t do better than Mark Hamil, so he wanted to do his best to replicate him without being an exact copy.
Both do a fantastic joker.
Jesus… if I shut my eyes, I almost couldn’t tell the difference between the two. Thank God I’ve heard Mark Hamill do it for so many years that I can tell, but Damn, Troy…. Thank God for you!!!
Troy Younger Joker
Hamill Older Joker
And it is awesome both did a excellent job
troy baker sucks
@@Batman12-f9u shut it 5 year old dummy!!
Both of them are super good
I think more extreme emotions like straight anger and striaght Joy(his main laughing), Troy is better. He is after an overall insane voice actor. However, more subtle things like regular talking are much more unsettling when Hamill talks. He understands the character much more than Troy obv. And his laugh, while not being technically more realistic than Troy’s, I think is still better. He’s able to do different laughs for different scenes. So overall, ofc Hamill is better but goddamn I think Troy could fill in for him now that Hamill’s stepped down.
It's incredible how similar they sound
Troy will take the mantle now that Mark Hamill has retried from the role because *his* Batman has passed 😔.
man it has got to be SO fun to do that maniacal laugh
I feel like a better comparison would have been Mark’s 90s Joker voice before his voice got too hoarse.
But damn if both actors aren’t great
To be honest I can't tell the difference one sounds younger but what 1 sounds older they're both iconic I like them both it's hard to decide
Troy Baker is a insane voice actor, plays a really good joker next to Mark Hamill, plays Booker Dewitt in Bioshock Infinite, Joel from The Last of Us and The main Villain from Far Cry 4
Van Kleiss from Generator Rex
Invoker from Dota: Dragon’s Blood
I like to think of Troy as a younger joker and as he got older his voices changed into mark