Ducati Panigale 899 fights Suzuki and Triumph | Group Test | Motorcyclenews.com
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- Опубліковано 20 лис 2013
- Ducati's eagerly anticipated 'baby' Panigale 899 is the new challenger in the middleweight sports bike division.
We pit it against the class leading Suzuki GSX-R750 and the hugely capable Triumph Daytona 675R to see if it's got what it takes to set a new world order.
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This Ducati 899 Panigale makes me fall in love with Ducati all over again...
This was the best video you guys have ever done. The edits, the sound, the music, levels and the light but honest commentary. This is real top quality stuff. Only one thing missing however, on board camera work from a GoPro or other system. Other than that, keep up this great work.
Bravo, MCN! This video is your best yet. Keep up the great work.
Please sort out the sound MCN. You've got some quality road testers, please do them justice.
I really think it's time TRIUMPH give us an 875 and/or 1liter Daytona (again)
Thanks for the review and I think that was one of the best and most accurate reviews I've seen from your group at MCN
This is a great time to be a biker, and MCN have really upped their game with this video. Keep it up guys.
I love you guys! You make me want to buy new bikes in every Video, Good Job and big thanks to the team!
Please stop the back ground music, exhaust noise is much better
Glad to see the focus on "actual" or "really usable". Bench racing is pointless.....we need more bikes that average humans can actually ride! Thanks guys as usual.
that music is so annoying wtf dont u watch the video before uploading it and realise u really need to focus in order to understand one word?
Great review. I'm glad you acknowledged (in between the lines) that the best bike is actually the Triumph Daytona 675. It's a 600cc class bike that holds its ground with the middle weights, doesn't need the rider aides of the liter class bikes, and has plenty of power. The power distribution of the triple cannot be beat. So, to sum up your review, the Ducati sounds the best and has more power due to FAR more displacement than the Daytona, and is therefore the best bike. BUT, a deaf rider gets most enjoyment from cornering, and the Daytona--with its compact triple--obviously has both the Panigale 899 and GSXR BEAT!!
Yeah, neither are the other bikes are middleweights. Unless we are calling 900cc middleweight now
And Daytona is the ugliest too.
Great review, well done Michael. Would have loved to have been part of it. I have ridden the GSXR 750 on the road and track and I agree it is the perfect all rounder. For the 899 to be even better than this must mean it is something very special indeed.
Yes indeed the Panigale 899 is the winner! The Panigale 1199 R is a winner too!!!
I just love the white version of the 899, simply stunning!
Don't really understand why the triumph is in there, surely it belong the the 600 supersport class, proven by participating in championships across the world. The MV F3 800cc would be much more at home in this middleweight class I think?
Apart from that, great test, nice video and cool review :)
Agreed the Daytona should not be in this. Unless they bore out the engine and put in R1 pistons so it was now a 750cc Daytona.
Zalonka No need. Triumph already produce an 800 in the explorer. Just retune it for outright performance and slot it into a Daytona 675 frame.
Please stop the dreadful music so we can hear the lovely noises from these stunning bikes. Please !
excellent video .... at the end of the day you cannot go wrong with any of the bikes as mentioned but I loved the comments about you riding them versus them riding you with the 1000's and so these really are the perfect bikes
The combined sound node of the first minute is hypnotizing! Lov in' it!
I agree. I want my bike to sound like all three of these combined ;).
The GSX-R 750 is really all the bike you’ll ever need.
And it just can’t be beat on price.
Check out MCN to see why we chose these bikes - why the F3 800 was out and the 675R in. It's available on iPad and Android if you're not in the UK. Neevesy, MCN.
I thought it was a superb video and have no complaints with the 3 bikes chosen
I like you're comparison videos, guys but either turn the volume of the music down or, better yet, off when one of you is talking about the bikes. I can hardly understand a word being said.
Combination of those 3 different engine sounds, actually makes a beautiful music.
Triumph sounds and looks the best easily
triumph is ugly compared to the Ducati
awesome review guys! :)
I rode all 3 of them. All 3 bikes are gorgious. I personally own a panigale 1199, but the midweight class with the suzuki 750, the triumph and the little duc are megafun off the Racetrack. No Matter what Bike you by, all 3 are worth the purchase. They are megafun to ride, very reliable and easy to handle. The coolest sound makes the duc of course, but the trumph triple sounds cool too.
It's the Panigale it should've been. As soon as they announced this one, I knew it would we brilliant, the Panigale the Ducati team wanted it to be (remember the 916?). Love it that it's actually that good.
As anticipated and suspected Ducati did their homework I have always loved the Vtwin (LTwin). The Pani really has the looks now it can finally deliver the goods as well. Thanks MCN + Ducati.
Some on-board comparisons/footage would have been cool.
Nice test! The 750 needs updating!
Cool ducati 899 and daytona
I really really love loud music of my choice, when I’m in the mood for really really loud music, but not when I’m trying to concentrate on facts and figures regarding buying a new motorbike
New audio sounds great, even though you had to spend hours mixing it in weird ways like you said in a previous comment. New microphone is picking up very high fidelity sound. The Ducati sounds orgasmic.
Dear Editing Department, background music goes in the BACKGROUND.
Perfect bike for both road and track. It has the right amount of power with safety features on it.
Nice review......pity about the head banging soundtrack
love it in white
Au-delà de toutes considérations techniques ou de performances la Ducati est incontestablement un chef d'oeuvre d'esthétique....
The Suzuki looks wise is the most outdated, soft looking bike here.
I love the Ducati and I have to day while I've never been a Triumph fan, this bike looks amazing and looks like it would be the best all around bike despite the lack of power.
I would love to take it around a track,heck all 3 to see which is better. My money would be on the Triumph. This based on looks alone.
I'd really love to see a SF with the 899 engine before i buy a new bike, im thinking on the z800 but the sound of the duc engine is so amazing
why not just go for a ducati streetfighter 848? awesome looks, and sounds even better!!! can not compare that to the z800 lol.
My right ear loves this.
Daytona all the way!
I agree with Beaver 314 and Jared Poston. It's interesting that the 675 was thrown in there as a "honorary" member. By that definition surely the new ZX6R 636 could have qualified for that as well? The F3 800 would've been a better fit.
But I digress, this was still a superb video. Nice one Neevesy & co. :)
whats the name of the song at the begin... i love it, it makes me love the panigale more
True for the same price you could buy a 1000 for the same or even less money than the 899 but damn the styling on that bike is second to none in my opinion.
Unfortunately the 899 does also suffer from the same problem as the 848 and 1199. Insanely hard rear shock, on standard settings. On UK roads, it could shake your fillings loose.
It's not like Ducati can't setup a bike with decent standard settings. The Monster 1100 evo and 848 Streetfighter were setup perfectly for the road. Firm, yet supple suspension.
As most people test ride a bike on standard settings, it can be off-putting and has probably cost them a number of sales over the years.
Think I may have to put one next to the monster in the garage, I was hoping the 899 would actually be a better road/track byke for the regular guy and it looks like I was right...
Hello MCN I never understood why journalist have to add any kind of music to their videos!
Regardless if cars or motorbikes we want to hear the engines and the sounds and NO MUSIC!
2:45 god that noise!!!
background is too loud to hear the presenter's voice clearly.......otherwise a very good video
The 675 is a 600, not a middleweight. The 25bhp gap will always make that difference on the track (and therefore in your ranking), and so you basically just dissed the 675 for being smaller! Strange decision MCN, strange.
7:29, is that a Moto Guzzi 850 Le Mans, completely in the back? My dad has that, would be really cool if I could read just that part..
Anyone know what brand of tyres they were using??
Did you see all those pirelli stickers?
Anthony Figueroa No, no I didn't..... -_-
Anthony Figueroa Lol, Idiot
Anthony Figueroa what is pirelli?
suzukiaddress125 some of the best tires made.
Neeves hated the F3 800 so it's not surprising it wasn't in the test. Hopefully Yamaha does something with their new 3 pot and Honda makes a baby 750cc of their rumored V4 flagship. The 600 and 1000cc classes are too little and too much... this is the Goldilocks class.
He didn't hate the MV 800, he didn't like the throttle feel/response.This has been a bug bear for all MV's in recent times but now the latest upgrades have all but eliminated this problem.
Well I dig the music actually. It's a cool groove in the background. Maybe a hair louder on the dialog, but otherwise nice.
I have 899 and its my baby, sexy fuckin bike!
in a fantasy it would be a tough choice between triumph and ducati. ducat being a ducati. triumph based on sound alone. sound for me makes a difference! and i know they both are amazing but ducati for sure... they make u feel special
I wonder what tires they are running? ;)
Definitely needs the MV Agusta F3 800 in the test, and the Ducati has pretty much the same capacity as the old fireblade!!
The larger displacement bikes outclass the cheaper, lighter and smaller Triumph?! They should. The 675 Triple races against the 600/4's which are their natural competition in the market place as well. Come on MCN! let's see fair comparisons.
***** I'm not offended. The Duc is a fine bike - for that price ($15,000 in the USA) - it should be! In racing, they put the 750 twins against the 675 triples and the 600/4's and great competition is enjoyed by the fans. In a showroom, things are a bit different and most often price is the determinate in comparisons between bikes. I'm glad that you like the 675r! It would be my choice in it's class at $13,500.
*****
Can't comment about the sound or pride - it's a personal preference and it's your money. Either way, your on a fine bike. The larger Duc may fit larger riders better - I'd test ride them back to back. However, if I had over 15k to spend on a new toy - I'd buy the Triumph and spend the rest on a trip with my wife to somewhere we'd both enjoy. Perhaps that's why we've been together 30 years //;-)
Nice track.
Well done MCN. All negative comments aside, thank you for taking the time to make this video. (better than I could ever do!)
Greetings from Los Angeles!
In other words we are back to 916cc
i have surround sound and all the bike noise(in the beginning drive bys) is coming from the right rear speaker....
Hells teeth, that 899 has one hell of a bark! :-)
GIXERRRRRRRRR FOREVER !!!!!!!!!!!!11
awesome bikes
All kidding aside could you guys do a comparison of the 848 corse and the 899? Would like to know what you guys think.
so many kewl bykes these days!
Please please MCN turn down the music. I can barely hear the reviewers talk over it, and we want to hear the bikes!
There'll probably be an Evo, S or SP version of the 899 in a couple of years.
I love Ducati bikes, almost bought one on two different occasions. However, I don't like it when the test are between a 899, 675, and 600. Obviously the 899 has an advantage before the test begins. Besides the high price, it really doesn't run against larger sport bikes because it would always lose in results. I guess I would like to seen a level playing field where motors are matched.
+D. Paul Riderman It's perfectly fair to compare them, The GSXR has exactly the same power.
The torque curve of the Ducati is lower, giving an pulling advantage coming out of the curves. That's what twins do.
No replacement for displacement
The GSXR in this test is a 750
The 675r should be here 3/10s of a second behind those two. I have the 2013 675r and the things a beast for its size, the front end is always inching off the ground outta canyon twisties. It is the best handling production bike ever for canyons. Ducati wins this because of the extra bit of speed on straights and its looks, I cant ride anything without Ohlins anymore.
Interestingly, with Michael Rutter the 2013 675R lapped Mallory Park faster than the 899 and faster than the ZX10... Pick up a copy of Performance Bikes, the issue with Foggy on the cover.
What colour do I go for though!!??
Audio commentary is very low quality guys, check your mic setup
9 years later
Get rid of the damn music which is too loud and drowns out the commentary. I tuned in for the commentary not the bloody music. Its a bike review, not a bloody music video with some bikes in it !! MSN should know better!
Well done Ducati now where's my 'baby' Multistrada?
The ducati is beguilingly beautiful.
very cool movie, I have a radio controlled movie from it.
Love the Panigale but that swing arm just puts me right off.
“600s haven’t quite got it” what do you fucking mean? They’re equivalent to 700 hp cars. They definitely have enough power haha
It seems like every test I see with a Ducati, it's pitted against bikes quite a bit smaller in the engine dept. Ducati brags about it's desmo valve operation, but it only revs to less then 11,000 rpm. Desmo is a pia to service, valve springs have been able to handle that rpm level for decades now. My 30 year old Suzuki has a higher redline. Ducks are nice bikes to buy used, they hardly ever have any miles on them.
I think that the GSXR 750 was it only cause the country YOUR in that ducatti had to take it ,but whatever plus although it had more power but it being shorter it was only real good on low speed corners and well the hell with ducatti!!!
And the winner is the Duck-I-tee!!! Great bike but it should be sporting the Ohlinsusa suspention. Maybe next year....
Ducati Dragon, 1200 would be lovely but the bank manager wouldn't agree.
What is the price tag on the 899? not so many Ducati won on this title before right?
Nice, and the winner was so predictable... now if only someone would invest heavily in their MotoGP endeavors, they certainly can beat Honda's dominance if given a chance and the money!
They should make a gsxr800 with 150rwhp
Love the vids on MCN but riding way too close on the twisties, no time to react, it's not really a race, stay safe.
So Crutchlow moves to Ducati, and Ducati will now dominate all MCN reviews?
Ducati fails on performance and sticks you with the bill when the bike breaks. My last Ducati threw a rod bearing. SUZUKI has never failed me!
2013 GSXR750 with 6000 miles, suspension linkage snapped on me at 140MPH at the isle of man. I am lucky to be alive
gsxr 750....didnt you think of puting it against the triumph and 898?
899 is sweet^^
would be great with no music.
This is an otherwise decent video comparison that is marred by incessant (bad) music playing throughout. I liked MCN videos much more when the only music was the sound made by motorcycles. Please ditch the music, especially the background music that plays while the reviewers are talking..
20% more displacement than the GSX-R but the same HP and twice the price.
That is why Ducati always compare their machines to lesser bikes and say, "look, we won.
Compare the 899 to anything equivilent and it wont even come close.
Undertail exhaust is always better. That's why I'd get the 848
I owned an 848 an yes the undertail exhaust looks nice but after 30 minutes your balls are so hot you'd almost rather not have them.
Obviously, and thank god for it. The 848 was one of the hottest seats i've ridden on. I eventually put on a heat shield and wrapped the exhaust pipe and that helped alot but it was still uncomfortable on long rides.
Yeah i had termi's on mine and i favored them because the fit tail of the bike and didn't stick out like the stock cans did. I will always favor the single sided swing arm just because it's different from the other bikes. But now that its a standard double maybe the Ducati will ride more evenly through the rolling corners. I can't wait to get on the 899 this summer and give it a shot but i really love my 675 so much that it might take a few years before i swap bikes again.
Dream job.
is the 899 148hp or 130 hp
148 bhp as advertised, 130hp to the wheel
Wow that 2015 Suzuki looks like shit.
Ohsomint M Looks like every Suzuki for the last 15 years!
Ohsomint M I prefer to think of running costs and ergonomics because I ride my bike lots and not leave it in the garage on all but the sunniest of days. Ducati is reasonably comfortable, but the GSXR is better (For me 6' 14.5st). I suppose if you are a poser the looks matter, as does the matching leathers and helmet. And Ducatis sound awful - like a diesel car. Triumph sounds the best from this group.
+Hypersonik i think looks matter man, i mean most people arent gonna push a bike to its limits and say "this isnt good enough for my skills" i know i dont really care about ever being that level of skilled. i think of it the same way as a lambo.....you buy them becuae they look and sound mint and when you drive it it makes you feel great. saying bikes that look good are for poser's is a little unfair man. id rather have something i can be proud of and feel good showing to my friends and ladies over something say "oh.....great" and i reply with "but its really fast i promise"