New Triumph Daytona vs Old | Tests | Motorcyclenews.com
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- With Triumph launching their new Daytona 675, MCN road tester Adam Child took the new bike up head-to-head against the old bike to see what changes Triumph has made to the new model.
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and the old bike looks better..... oh, many people have already said that. i own the old one. hehehe.
0:06 I'm Johnathan Rea (just before becoming a LEGEND) 😉
Fairing looks nicer, especially at the back, think I prefer the old headlights though.
Hopefully we'll see more of these on the road.
Great video! Keep em coming!
the old bike looks way better too lets not forget that.
That's right
Putting the headlights as one rather than two makes it look like a bit of a cyclops
Definitely!
old bike looks better
Jay Young When I first seen the new one I was disgusted. Something about the headlight that looks like a unibrow really pisses me off.
Had a 2012 Daytona, better looking bike than the newer Daytona's. Also, should have left the pipe under the seat, bad move Triumph!
Why do you say that? Not being arrogant, I am buying and deciding over new vs old :)
+Patrick Sargisson no ankle burn and a seat heater
Looks way more aggressive/ symmetric. Thats also why I had the 05 cbr 1000rr instead of the newer models before the Daytona
cause you live in a fuking cold country, dude. That heat is no fun at all on a hot day.
I think it prefer the low boy. The tail looks sharper without the exhaust up there
More of these please.
2:12 I am so confused how is the old bike quicker than the new bike? That's not what the video shows.....
Still in love with my 58 daytona would like to test ride the new one just to see how it feels compared to mine. The look of the new shape has grown on me.
Love the sound of the triple :D, might be time to upgrade my 09
I love old style 12's daytona 675R
Well done video
I prefer the look of the new bike tbh
new street triple looks better than the old one but the old daytona 675 looks so much better than the new one. Hoping to get my hands on one soon
The old one beauty >>>>> infinite >>>>>> new one. Underseat exaust rules.
Caio Borges YES, I love the underseat exhaust. The excuse that the lower exhaust helps gives you a lower center of gravity is nit picking. I have an undertail exhaust with a small can and I don't notice any weight at all going into turns. Everyone loves the look of an undertail exhaust hands down.😎
@@MartinSage Nah, prefer the sharper tail of the low boy
Do you reckon you could tell the difference without the computer and speed test equipment? Incremental increases only
Sportrider magazine used to (probably still do) include really nice speed vs time graphs in some of their big comparisons from rest to beyond 1/4 mile. On a few of these graphs, I noticed that many superbikes and supersport bikes were well into the 2's to 60 mph. I don't remember if a Daytona was ever represented in any data, but if a ZX-6R can break into the 2's (I explicitly remember that one) then I'd think it's fair to say a Daytona can as well. Of course, it takes a fantastic run.
Good so it's not just me! Anyway their vids are looking much better and I am glad for that.
You said the old bike is quicker, then immediately after said the new bike has quicker acceleration, 0-60 and 0-120. Somehow this doesn't add up haha.
I love the 675 since its firts apearance, but the Agusta F3.... took my heart.
2009, 2010/11 675 SE (Special Edition) looks SEXY !
can you do the new and old street triple
Why did they change back to reflectors from good looking and functional Projector set-up?
testing one to the other old vs new , seemed clear on the outlook ...
I am a bit confused here coz if you read the actual article the older version resulted quicker in some tasks which I cannot recall right now. So what's the truth? what goes faster..? the new 675? The old one ? or the new MV F3?
:P
Please put units on your power and torque figures. kW or horsepower? lb-ft or Nm?
I'm 6ft4 am I too tall for this bike. Only had nakeds but feeling a change
Why tey do not make such tests for the street triple?
The best way to break in an engine is to drive it as you will actually be driving it. But the most overlooked part of breaking in an engine is proper oil changes. Obviously you don't want to thrash on it. Also, proper deceleration is key, allowing the engine to decelerate on its own creates vacuum. Vacuum is just as important when it comes to piston ring sealing. I passed up an R1 because the owner said "Broke in properly, babied for 2k miles".
Nice video Please do it for other motors
So 2012 daytona 0 to 60 is 3.9? Can someone reply to me about this? Because that's like half a second slower than what I thought it would be, than what I've found on other sites, forums.
Once I get my unrestricted license, I'll be upgrading my cbr250 with a 675. I know 1000cc is quicker but I'm just in love with these, but only the underseat exhaust.
HypnoticCrab Unless you're doing track days 1000cc is overkill anyways. This bike is definitely plenty of power imo.
I just want to know why the tax disc was spinning when on the dyno lol
The 0-60 times (and the rest of the acceleration data) here are simply indicative of a sub-optimal run. In ideal conditions either of these bikes can likely break into the high 2's to 60 mph. I think it was Motorcyclist (or was it Cycle World?) that recorded a 10.9XX or 11.0XX sec 1/4 mile run on a Street Triple R a couple years ago, to give an idea.
lol i drive/ride very fast in safe situations and also on track. but when i buy something new. i never thrash it until around the 600mile mark. after that its fair game. but i still really look after my stuff. i know loads of people who thrash theres straight outta the showroom. and 8/10 times they have had problems around the 1500 mile mark. i,ve never had a problem. from new. had problems when bought used though. but prob because they didn,t look after it from new
Old bike looks sexy way ahead of its time like that of Ducati supersport which was launched decades after that....I own street triple 675.
what new litre bikes? I don't think any of them are really any different for '13?
Does MCN has stake in Triumph? Always positive no complains whatsoever, I know MCN and Triumph are both British but a bit of objectivity would be really appreciated.
Waiting on the new liter bikes test always special!
Yes, But is it faster than the olde 955i Daytona....
the yellow on the old Daytona, is that the same as the standard Daytona 675 2006 paint?
thowmaz sulpher yellow
thowmaz I have it if you want to buy one 14k miles
it seemed like you were saying you always drive around slow, when you said that you never thrash it. I assumed by thrash you meant go fast. If you just meant during the break in, then I must have misunderstood.
All motorcycle magazines and websites I've read all seem to agree the Daytona is easily in the top 3 in its class.
I started with a Ninja 650R which is comparable to your FZ6R, and now own a Street Triple R, which is not quite as fast as a Daytona. The difference between the two is vast. They aren't even in the same class. It is something you will have to experience yourself to know the difference. 20-30 HP on a motorcycle makes a world of difference.
WOW well done MCN. done 500 thrashed miles from new. bet it goes bang before someone who took there first 500miles steady.
guys how the new daytona compare to the 2013 zx6r 636????
That's an inline 4 vs an inline 3...then again the triumph it lighter so it might not need all that power
the 636 beats it
The best sounding bikes around.
I build and restore bikes, so I know what is is to enjoy keeping a bike going. I also enjoy getting a bike going again, but I don't do it so I can spend all my time maintaining it. I do it so I can enjoy riding it. Sport bikes are actually designed to be driven fast, so if that's not what you enjoy, then maybe you would be better suited on a cruiser. Most of the people riding them also prefer polishing and cleaning their bikes as apposed to riding them.
damn, the 2013 was significantly faster than the 2012. were there any major changes to the 2013?
Undertail exhaust isn't good for handling, think of that weight up top vs down at the bottom. Better center of gravity etc.
You are actually right, in the racing world a new engine is run on the dyno for a few miles then considered done. A new engine thrashed early on produces more power than an engine that has been "run in" for hundreds or even thousands of miles. Manufacturers just covering there asses is all that is.
Not only MCN puts Triumph as a great bikes.
Actually he is right, every engine when built is ran for roughly 30 minutes and frequently redlined while it goes through diagnostics to check it meets quality levels.
Neeves complained a bit about the taller first gear and "squidgy" seat on the new Street Triple R. Ha. The thing is, in almost every review I've seen of either a Street Triple or a Daytona, there are effectively no complaints. MCN doesn't seem to be out of line with the rest of the motorcycle review industry in their assessments of Triumphs, for the two I mentioned anyway.
@alexbogdanul once the new CBR600RR is launched, we're planning a big 600s shoot-out. Neevesy MCN
I wish triumph would do a Dayton 1000cc ( :
You know, sometimes...something comes along that is nigh on perfect. With reviews like this, to put 'bad points' on these kinds of bikes is to walk along the fine line of subjectivity. Which a publication like MCN isn't really supposed to do. Subjective opinions are left to the customer/user of a bike. Simple as that.
For a race bike I agree. but that engine will get tuned and sorted every weekend. a road bike don,t carry a mechanic around with them. hence why you should look after your bike.
I'm not quite sure how he said the old is quicker than new when all the times on the new were way batter than the old..
t595?
I would want one of the old daytona's over a new 2013 model. Because the new one might be even better, but it's not as pretty as they used to be.
When can we expect to see 2013's supersport battle?
Triumph Daytona 675 Vs. Kawasaki Ninja 636 (the only real contenders in my opinion)
It just needs that under seat exhaust.
i thought so too, and then i got on one and its kinda shady build quality, waiting to see the new 2013 to be sure.
Best bike in class
@nanayawrootz you need to read our Trophy test then, matey. Neevesy. MCN
OMG! I so want a Daytona but I heard that they are expensive when it comes to standard service. .
I have a 2013 daytona 675r and it's amazing the servicing is no more expensive than my 06 rr!
They did away with them because they didn't perform good enough and Triumph weren't happy with that. The new headlights is an improvement even if the projectors looks a bit better, i still prefer the new bike over the old one.
I love the new design but I hate the plateholder
they redline it to make sure it wont explode similar to when a gun manufacturer makes a gun, they test fire the gun with ammunition that has twice the normal powder load. You should still break it in if you would like to have a reliable vehicle down the road.
...man, that speed is what an old triple from the factory set up in the 70s does. Check here amateur pilots riding R North triples in the Isle of Mann.
ninja 636 test please
So the question is....are the improvements worth the extra cost?
The old bike beats the new bike if it has a better rider. Simple as that :)
Why do you think i don,t drive/ride fast?
The bike freaking rules. Take one out on a test for yourself.
People really complaining about the "plate holder" lol. It's called an eliminator kit... Buy one
i think it always possible to dyno test that tax disc :)
So, the new bike is faster than the old bike, but the old bike is faster than the new bike? I'm so confused.
Is ABS an argument to get a new bike!?
2015 Daytona 675
That's what i own brilliant bike
FZ6R specifications and tests rate it @ 3.8s. Also, the daytona will pass you with ease after that 60mph goes by. Keep in mind your FZ6R runs a 12.5+ quarter mile. Also, top speed IIRC is around 130mph. See ya later FZ6R.
What i want to know is when will they bring a 1000cc superbike out surely long overdue
the old design looks better the new one looks weird and a lot like the new CBR600RR
MCN say it has 5 star value at £10,600 when all of the Japanese 600s are currently under £9000. If your going to pay that much you should get a liter bike!!!
holy shit! it's rex brown..
the old looks way better 💃
Rick rack... I thought the Same until I stood next to both of them! Then it became clear that the new one was waaaaay better looking!!!
I bought the 2013 675r it looks amazing from every angle!
Can anyone say 2005 zx10
he misspoke, and they didn't edit the review video to correct it. kind of a major mistake, considering almost 30,000 people have viewed the video.
seems like Triumph would've got on their case about the misrepresentation.
Yeah mine looks so much better when I bought that.
I have been saying this to my friend and he thinks the new 1 is better because of the spikey tail, i hate that spikey tail nonsense
Breaking in an engine? how do you do that then? by running it of course. hence= running it in. won,t break in sat on your garage floor will it. babying it for 500miles. is better for engine than thrashing it. my clio 200 cup made 209bhp and 168ft with 16000 miles on the clock. others there on same year plate with 25000miles only made 196bhp and another made 201bhp. a year later mine has 20.000 miles read out the same. others 193bhp and 198bhp. diffrence? mine not thrashed everywhere.
and you are watching motorcycle news dot com!
So if the dealer has a 2012 still in stock get that one and save yourself a few 1000???
The rear tyre looks flat.
so basically they just dropped a tooth on the front sprocket
no more undertail exhaust... no more two-piece headlights. the body is nice. i'm sure the power is too, but REALLY? they got rid of the two things that made everyone do a double take on the 675 in the first place.
156mph all the other 600 are above 160
Just hurry up and make a 1050 daytona triumph !!
lemme guess, you dont rev your bike past 4k for the first 600 miles before the book says so?