Testing WEIRD SNARE DRUM Hacks
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- Опубліковано 3 тра 2024
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Music used (background & playalongs)
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Big thanks to @TimBuell for taking some guesses on these sounds! and also for the mix!
0:00 wanna play a game?
0:21 No Batter Head Rim
1:33 Coated Snare Side Head
3:22 Kick Port on Batter Head
6:13 How to Stop Snares From Buzzing
7:17 Snare Strap out of a Water Bottle
8:43 Mounting a Snare on the Bottom of a Floor Tom
On my never ending quest of testing drum hacks, I came across these snare drum hacks from Instagram. As usual, some are pretty cool and work well, but others are pretty lame and not worth your time. We test out a snare drum with no rim on the batter head. Putting a coated head on the snare side, apparently John Bonham did this? Installing a kick port on a snare drum. A way to stop you snares from buzzing. Upcycling trash into some snare straps. And probably my favorite, because it actually sounds cool, mounting a snare drum on the bottom of a floor tom.
Testing some WEIRD Snare Drum Hacks
Which one of these hacks was your favorite? 🤔
Kickport in the snare. Now i have a drinks holder
My favourite was the last one, the snare on the bottom of the floor tom. That sounded awesome
Coated and 1 ply non snare heads on my snares have been my thing for awhile--less papery snare response.
Tim also should get $25 for the water bottle straps, because it was just a snare drum.
Snare on the bottom of the floor tom sounded fantastic. Reminds me of the snare sample from this song: ua-cam.com/video/dUe7sL99U8g/v-deo.html
I'm sorry really did anybody thought it would be easy to guess those hacks by the sound alone? x)) Seriously props to the guy, all his guesses makes a lot of sense 😊
As someone with a really bad ear for music, his analysis helped me somewhat to understand the sound better as opposed to just going "Yeah, sounds like a guy playing drums". So I appreciated it as an element of the video if nothing else.
Yeah, @timbuell deserves mad respect for his analysis. I listened with my eyes closed to the floor tom snare, and i would have guessed, like, a loose goat skin head with a kick drum microphone, among other things.
Yeah, I can identify one sound, and it's "I think it's a snare, sounds okay. Or actually, maybe not?" That's why I play electronic kits.
if he was given the full list of drum hacks with some extra options included to choose from for each example it probably would’ve been at least feasible
@@Sweet92879 Me too! Don't have an ear for drum sounds. Besides I don't have the stamina or the time for the endless tweaking I'd need to get my kit sounding just right. That said, I find the custom snare sounds from Drum-tec do sound a lot better than the standard snare sounds on my TD-17. (little bit of free advertising for my German friends there ;-)
That Tom + Snare combo was great. I could totally see this as an accent drum. Now I wonder if just somehow attaching snare wires to the tom would just do the same thing without requiring a full snare to be attached to it
“Snoms” are a thing - tama makes them for like £250 which I think is a steal
You’d need to have a snare bed put into the bottom of the tom shell edge to make it work otherwise the snare wires on the even surface edge across of the bottom of the tom will make the snare wires malfunction aka not proper snare wire tension
You also wouldn’t have a snare throw off
id totally use it, if i had the money to
Just get a rim with the snares slot that's got the same lugs and diameter and jerryrig some snares onto the bottom bota-boom bota-bing snom
That Donner acrylic snare sounds terrific. Every musician has the same hack now. We call it "How ridiculously good entry level stuff is, now."
The coated snare side sounded pretty decent.
It's nice to watch someone who's not only a competent drummer, but is also a competent machinist as well. As someone who's been a shop hound for over a decade, I've always been bothered by how many people blunder their way through these things with no precision or forethought. I like that you put some actual effort and precision into this stuff.
I know for shure that kickports were sold in smaller diameters especially for snare an toms. The factory showed that in Frankfurt Musikmesse 2005-07. Sounds great.
oooh, spicy! sauce, cap?
Lmao as if, maybe for side heard definitely not batter tho
Can confirm, i have 2 different smaller sized ports on a Sonor Mini kit, small for my 14in kick and even smaller for both toms
The War Drum sounded absolutely fantastic.
The bass port snare was pretty good, too, I thought. Mic'd inside of the drum was awesome, very modern death metal sound, and the rim hits were cool, too.
I love the snom hack at the end - and I was surprised the rimless head sounded so usable!
Damn, that coated snare side head and the kick drum port hack sounded way better than I would've expected.
The coated head on the snare side was one I found out of necessity once, everyone was saying I was crazy but for my genre of heavier stuff it was great. I had an acrylic (DW design) at the time as well!
really enjoying the ringier snares + chunky bright hats! reminds me of helmet’s drum sound
haha definitely very helmet-ey!
@rdavidr huge helmet fan. I've been after a similar snare sound for years and your snare at around 2:36 and 8 minutes in is pretty on the money. Do you think you could make a video on how you tune your snare? If not it's all good. Love that you're still trying to push the boundaries of what's possible with drumming. Thanks for the awesome content!
You should add kickports on the resonant heads of your drumset 😃
I’m pretty curious how that would sound like on the toms
Same here. I would guess that they'd probably sound like concert toms but perhaps with a little bit more bass to them.
Kickport made 1” fx ones for toms and snares when I worked at guitar center in the mid 90’s. Dunno if they’re still in production.
I have that on an 8in and 13in rack/floor tom for my mini kit. Sound pretty dead but for what i want it works
Definitely wanna try the kick port, that sounded awesome on the batter head
I've used the tom/snare before and I will do again. Great hack!
That Tom + Snare sounds like every field drum band directors dream of!
Dude that kickport on the snare sounds soooooo good.
I look forward to your videos Every week, keep up the great Work Man🤘
I liked the kick port in the snare.. it's a decent alternative snare sound. The clicky clicks sounded nice, not annoying. It did have a nice high pitch to it when hitting just the scare head area
Maybe another fun drum hack to try out could be to build a DIY Yamaha SubKick?
tonally awesome!
and it reminds me of some older video with Melvins and their fuzz-shoot-out-ultra-blast.
I'm gonna try the field drum hack for sure!! Nice!!
Absolutely loving the floor Tom and snare drum hack! Where has this been all my pro-drumming life?! 🤘
Of all the hacks the one with the port in the snare, and the one with the snare connected to a floor tom are the hacks that I would try personally. Great idea for a video.
Not sure if they got it confused but swapping the coated and clear sides on a tom rather than a snare is a really nice method for dampening them
rdavidr - taking openness to new ideas to a completely new level! Props.
Thanks for sparking my creativity! I have an old 18 x 22 Ludwig bass drum that I'm going to try and turn into a giant snare. 🤓
I liked the snareport!!! That made for a cool sound and much potential in dynamics. Unexpected!
I ordered a snare off of Reverb(Mapex hammered steel 14x5.5), and it came with an Evans Reso 7 on the snare side, which is coated. It actually sounded pretty good. Recently I changed heads and put a standard snare side head on it (Remo Hazy Diplomat), and I will say it nearly doubled in volume and sensitivity.
I liked the port head on the snare. Sounds usable for 4, low-fidelity bars intro to a song, then cut it back to a regular one after the intro.
I think the kickport stare would be something jd beck would use
I'd imagine JD Beck could use an ukulele made of burnt toast as a snare and make it sound funkier than a sentient afro wig on cocaine with star shaped sunglasses.
Nice to see Tim Beull here! His videos taught me everything I needed to optimise my Roland SPD SX
For controlling rattle on stored snares, I put a chewed up stick between the snare and reso head with the snare lever disengaged. Works great.
I also run a coated on my 13” snare and love it also I’ve cut the Lockport down on one of mine. Didn’t care for the sound but after I cut some of the length off i liked it a lot better.
Hey rDavidr, These hacks were interesting to me. I'm a "novice" at drum tuning - being a Resurrected drummer after 50 Years [1969] - 71 YO now, and retired. I have a DW Nickel over Brass 14 X 6.5 Snare which I purchased Used and came with a previous owner installed HD dry Batter head. It played great right out of the delivery Box from Reverb in 2021. A few weeks ago I replacd the batter head with a new HD dry head. No matter how I tune it - I couldn't get the sound I wanted. I have a PDP Concept Maple kit with a 14 X 5.5 Snare (which I also use a HD Dry batter head). In a particular playing session, I put the DW snare on top of my 16 Inch Floor Tom (G2 coated batter head) to get it out of my way. Doing a fill, I hit the DW snare sitting on top of the Tom.... BINGO - that was the sound I wanted - like a Ludwig Supraphonic / John Bonham sound! Take it off the Tom - not the same. The Maple snare sounded better too! Forum posters said that like in your video I was playing 2 Drums at the same time. One guy said Jokingly that I may have invented a new Snare Stand. Trouble with that statement is - He may be right!! I keep Tooling around and re-tweaking the drums & chnaged the batter heads (UV1 , UV2, and now a Power Center Dot ), but still can't to that Sound!. Should I get a cheap 16 inch Floor Tom and make it my snare Stand?
Cool to see you & Tim collaborating
I have a Kickport FX1 port in my vintage Pearl aluminum snare and it sounds great.
I'm very impressed with the sound engineer. And are rDavidr am I always enjoy your videos.
Your videos are great. I get motivated to improve my drums.
Mine was the kick port on the batter head, really interesting, keep making good videos dude!
My happiest combo right now has been coated head+tight coils+ tea towel+ wallet taped down+ ShureSM81 placed between snare and kick mid way.
I really liked the snare with the Kickport and that floor tom with the snare extension.
I'm definelty adding the Floor Snare to my accent portion of the kit. So many uses and sounds!!!
Always such great content!!
Dude! So stoked you used my comment about Bonham using a coated Ambassador on the snare side. Would love to hear it tuned low and an A/B with the same drum and a regular Ambassador Snare. But ya can't always have your cake and eat it too so I'm still grateful! haha Cheers! Love your content!
I've had a cheap 13" floor tom from a kid's drum set I've been wanting to convert to a snare, and this video got me to instead buy a cheap used piccolo and just screw that in on the bottom. It's fantastic. Having it off to the side is fun, but when it's right in front of me as a main snare, there's a tremendous thud to the body of it that's so damn fun to play.
Nope I'd never try any of these, but always fun to live vicariously through you David!
That hack with the tom and the snare is like Thomas Lang's "Snom".
Thanks for making this video. You are awesome.
I liked it when the batter head was used as a snare side head. This was one of the better experiments in the video for me. It sounded decent to me. I wish you had more time and loosened the top head, tightened the bottom head a little, and experimented with the snare wires by tightening and loosening them. Then, tighten the top head and loosen the bottom head to compare and see if that made it any better or worse. You had it sounding decent when you put the top head on the snare side. I could hear a little Bonzo.
I liked the plastic bottle pieces used for holding the snares on and tightening them.
The snare drum floor Tom and toms were excellent.
It did sound like old marching drums, like for military style drumming .
Overall, it was cool.
I wish we could hear the difference with your soundman changing a few settings on each experiment because it was hard to really tell what he had going on and how much of it was used.
Its cool how everyone has their own opinions and likenesses. Thanks again,
Glen
Snom and kickport were pretty neat.
Also, the coaster thing was prettt neat.
Thanks for the video dude
Really enjoyed the video! the MJ reference in the floor snare combo :D
Some of these hacks does sound amazing and useful for specific tasks
More arrows in the quiver
Thanks for the video!
10:03 that was the beginning of rock with you on the fat snare. Great choice!!!
He tried to sneak it in
Head in the circle guy is surprisingly never too far off. Good man.
Thanks David, you're the best DIY/Woodworking drummer I'm subbed to (maybe the only one as well, but who cares. When I've got you I don't need someone else to be subbed to!)
TL;DR: Watched this vid the day it came online. Forgot about it. Bought a kit the day after. Snare straps trashed. The day after that this vid saved my life: Searched for plastic straps, found water bottle instead, remembered the vid. Lived happily ever after.
Soo here's a short story long: Was notified about this video the day it came out. Watched it. Forgot about it. A day later I picked up a my first "real" kit, a restored Tama Rockstar (made in Japan) with a Yamaha/Premier V-Power snare. Both from the 80's. (Yeah I'm proud and excited I got 'em). Another day after that I got to setup the kit, noticed the snare straps were practically gone and had nothing to replace them with. Searched the house frantically for some plastics laying around, until I came across the water bottle I bought on my way when I picked the kit up. Remembered this video. Cut the bottle into straps. Tuned the snare. Am in love with the kit. We'll live happily ever after. The end.
The kick drum mix for this video is one the best I’ve ever heard
On the Tom/Snare combo:
Rock With You INTRO!!!! I caught that!!!
Remo does make what's called an "Autograph Head" which is basically a coated diplomat snare side. I have one and it works great. Sounds pretty interesting.
rdavidr. Always interesting and off the "beaten" path. Love it
I have a project coming up, and I'm 100% using that stacked floor tom/snare setup for a part. It's gonna be perfect for it.
When I was a broke teenager, I couldn't afford drum heads, so I used a piece of cardboard for the bass drum kind of wedged between the rim and shell. I also had to play my snare upside down because I had a ripped batter head, I also tried it under a 12" concert tom, and it sounded not too bad either.
Ok that snare drum attached to the floor tom was pretty killer. I actually already have a 1959 Ludwig marching snare that sounds pretty darned close to that, and is a lot easier to set up, so I will stick with that. ;)
Also the coaster hack has been around for many moons... I was doing that back in the 90s.
I’ve been using old plastic bottles for snare wires for years now, bit of a pain to set it up sometimes, depending on the sort of plastic. But when all done it sounds like any other snare
The kick port in the snare is interesting, it basically works like a bass reflex port. I would be curious what it would sound like if you take a tube with a length that has the same resonance as the bass end of a snare, rather than a kick.
The floor tom snare just killed me... That was awesome!
The floor Tom on the snare looks really fun I'll have to try it
The groove at 5:20 is so clean. Great vid as always!
RLLKRLLR
Awesome job on a real cool piece 😎
The pseudo field drum is great!!
That’s crazy! I knew you were in Richmond, but didn’t know you you were that local! I love that Sam Ash!
That FT with the snare attached was a PERFECT hack to use for Civil War drums! I'd be willing to bet they did that for the war movie soundtracks!!
i would actually be very tempted to try that last experimentation of stacking a floor tom on top of a snare drum lol
The floor Tom with a snare attached to the bottom was my favorite, mostly because I also play the intro to “Rock With You” anytime I’m playing a fat and low snare 😂
as a composer, i'm definitely stealing the fllortom/snare idea. thats sick. cheers dude.
I've had a snare attached to my 14" tom for a long time. I left the reso on the tom to maintain some tom tone when the snares are off. the tom reso acts as a batter to the snare and lets you have a loose reso for the tom but a tight reso for the snare sensitivity.
I'm a big fan of the kick port on my bass drum, I run a Super kick 2 o. The back and a Articulator on the front with a kick port both heads are by Aquarian, 22x18 and the kick has punch with a great low end.
BTW kicport also makes ports in sizes for snare and toms but I have not tried those though
That Articulator is a marching bass drum head and that's my HACK, something I picked up while marching in the Bluecoats
Shelf liner can be used for damping heads,silencing wires and muting cymbals. One of the most useful cheap hack materials.
killer. thanks!
5:32 as someone who makes music in DAW only i find this sound perfect for snare layering !
I need to try that tom snare trick 👀
It might have been a snare drum itself or the tuning but when you put the coated head on the snare slide on the yellow snare it just screamed Zeppelin at me!
the kick port one actually sounds really really good to me
The tom+snare combo I liked the most. I would try it but I don't have a 14" floor tom lol.
7:09 - When you said "talk" something in the room started sympathetically resonating with your voice, ~230Hz, a Bb/A#.
If you're trying to clean up the sound, I'd hum that note loud enough to make whatever it was ring again, find it, and dampen it.
(The sound will always be somewhat present, just a lot more when something else is resonating at the same pitch)
So if you're recording in that room, then you're in the mix, that frequency is going to really suck, and I'm sure there's a tom that really likes to ring around that frequency; you don't want it battling with some random object - or have to EQ out 230Hz and then lose a bunch of character in the mix!
i love ur videos
keep up the great work
-from a fellow drummer
i quite literally dont know anything about drums, but damn i love this channel
I'd never ever been close. MAYBE THAT LAST ONE just because its got that eardrum sound, but I'd never guessed it was a floor tom on top of it making that sound.
That last one is definitely something I'm gonna to use
Great video!
lmao thomas lang vibes with the all snare kit, love it
Am I crazy I think these all sound like they have a place. I dig it.
One of my snares still has straws for the snare straps. Been years and is still holding good.
Interesting - I once put a coated head on the snare side and it just about killed all the snare response. Maybe it was the drum itself (Ludwig Rocker, nothing fancy), or some other factor - tuning, snare tension, etc. It sounded good to me in this video!
FX ports are awesome on batter side for toms and snares. The kickport on a snare is pretty goofy lol
Sick Drum Bro
the first hack reminds me of the "snare" sound on cheap toy synth for kids back in the days. maybe because I'm listening through my monitor's cheap speakers.
Marching band snare drums have snare on top and bottom skins for that tight sound
I love the sound of the big yellow floor tom
Good ole kick port snare. That actually sounds cool.
I love the tom snares