Testing Old School Drum Hacks

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  • Опубліковано 3 тра 2024
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    Testing Drum Hacks Playlist:
    • Testing Drum Hacks
    0:00 Vibra-Fibing a Snare Drum
    3:15 John Bonham Aluminium Foil Bass Drum
    5:28 Bonus Tip
    5:32 Fixing a Cracked Cymbal
    8:36 Ringo Starr Tea Towels on Drums
    9:37 Wooden Disk Under Snare Drum
    Music used (background & playalongs)
    www.epidemicsound.com/referra...
    Gear Used: (affiliate links)
    DW Design Acrylic:
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    Cymbals:
    19" Zildjian K Hybrid China:
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    19" Zildjian K Custom Special Dry Trash Crash:
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    Sticks/Hardware:
    Vic Firth Freestyle 5b Drum Sticks:
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    Vic Firth VKB5 Beater:
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    Roc n’ Soc Drum Throne:
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    Tama Road Pro/ Iron Cobra Hardware:
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    Mics:
    Pair of Slate ML-1 (as overheads):
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    Austrian Audio CC8 (as rooms):
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    Earthworks DK7 Drum Mic Kit:
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    Lewitt DTP 640 REX Bass Drum Mic
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    Shure SM57 (snare bottom):
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    Austrian Audio Hi-X60 Headphones:
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    Tools/Material Used: (affiliate links)
    Fiberglass Kit:
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    Aluminum Foil:
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    Rivets:
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    Tea Towels:
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    Today on 5 minute crafts, or I mean, 5 minute drums, 😉 were testing some OLD SCHOOL Drum Hacks. We tested some weird tictok drum hacks last time, so I decided to take us back a couple decades. Most of these have been forgotten about over time, but some actually work really well. "Vibra-Fibing," or the process of adding fiberglass to the inside of a drum shell is something that was done to make drums more reflective and add resonance. Neil Peart, drummer of RUSH, had a couple this done to a couple of his drum sets back in the day, so I really wanted to give this one a shot. Speaking of resonance, theres a rumor that John Bonham, drummer of Led Zeppelin, lined his bass drum with aluminum foil. No one really knows if did this or not, or even the purpose, but this hack really tightened up the kick drum and made it less "tubey." Broken cymbals are all too common. One way to repair them is to drill a hole at the end of the crack to stop them from spreading. Unfortunately this is just a temporary fix as the cracks will most likely spread. Ringo Starr, drummer for The Beatles, is famously known for putting tea towels on his drums to mute, muffle, and dampen them to get a more dead sound. And finally, I had to test putting a piece of wood underneath your snare drum to see if it makes it more responsive/louder/snarier. This one didnt seem to do much...
    Testing OLD SCHOOL Drum Hacks

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  • @rdavidr
    @rdavidr  Рік тому +131

    Has anyone tried any of these hacks before?

    • @jasondonlon4375
      @jasondonlon4375 Рік тому +3

      E

    • @bgrmoose5997
      @bgrmoose5997 Рік тому +1

      @jasondonlon how’d you get it to say 69 years ago?

    • @matthewshimek
      @matthewshimek Рік тому +4

      @@bgrmoose5997 It's part of his name.

    • @jaydeville
      @jaydeville Рік тому

      Not yet, but soon ;)

    • @whyhatestrangers
      @whyhatestrangers Рік тому +7

      Next, fill your snare drum three quarters full of cheezits and see how it sounds

  • @lilbigmanrecords1708
    @lilbigmanrecords1708 Рік тому +624

    I love the way the fiberglass makes it sound exactly the same as before

    • @ShouldHaveBeen
      @ShouldHaveBeen Рік тому +40

      Maybe you don't know what you're not hearing.

    • @usethevideoluke983
      @usethevideoluke983 Рік тому +2

      Exactly

    • @2cazu
      @2cazu Рік тому +10

      especially when the metal band plays with the drummer...

    • @Skyunai
      @Skyunai Рік тому +12

      It sounds alot more bassy, I play bass, not drums, but i have become accustomed to hearing the differences, and nuances

    • @ShouldHaveBeen
      @ShouldHaveBeen Рік тому +10

      @@Skyunai It sounds like a pass or envelope filter to me.

  • @ledemduso5827
    @ledemduso5827 Рік тому +109

    I love how guitarists and drummers unite in chasing acoustic nuances that will be absolutely buried in a mix, if there's a difference at all.

    • @feebypeels2883
      @feebypeels2883 11 місяців тому +4

      Right? As if whoever is mixing isn't just going to EQ it a certain way anyhow. Jim Lill's videos on things like this are really great!

    • @Jonathan_Doe_
      @Jonathan_Doe_ 8 місяців тому +6

      Meanwhile bass players be like “So I just plugged my fender precision into a DI”

    • @BadgersInTheAttic
      @BadgersInTheAttic 8 місяців тому

      Many years ago I had the opportunity to chat with Jeff Campitelli, who told me that, on the last album he had recorded with Joe Satriani, the producer insisted he use a different snare on every track, but by the time they finished mixing, they all sounded the same anyway.

  • @fredschmidt6802
    @fredschmidt6802 Рік тому +288

    We did the towel thing when I was playing at a church... We were trying not to blow the band off the stage + easy to be more dynamic... We did 1/2 the snare drum and all of the floor Tom on curtain fills ... It was nice with half the snare for builds on songs we would not over power the band ... Ps I don't play there anymore they got too quiet

    • @constantk8780
      @constantk8780 Рік тому +4

      Ssshhhhhhhh!

    • @seralouise.
      @seralouise. Рік тому +53

      its a well known facts that churchgoers are afraid of drums. thats why they build those plexiglass walls around them #real

    • @Stretchwiz
      @Stretchwiz Рік тому +7

      Or use electric kits(imo nothing beats an acoustic kit)

    • @seralouise.
      @seralouise. Рік тому +25

      @@Stretchwiz electricity is also known to frighten some churchgoers

    • @hpatss4966
      @hpatss4966 Рік тому +8

      @@Stretchwiz I use one at church, the cymbals don’t wash well

  • @grahamroden8897
    @grahamroden8897 Рік тому +177

    The tea towel thing seems to be the only one that really works. Everything else is psychological. Drilling and routing cymbals works to a point but it’s probably better to replace them when they are too far gone.

    • @joeday4293
      @joeday4293 Рік тому +15

      The cymbal most likely to crack is the one that already has.

    • @DumbArse
      @DumbArse Рік тому +7

      Not psychological, you can literally put the sounds into audacity and see the waveforms are eeeever so slightly different. Maybe you do not know what to listen for or you are not that used to the sound of drums.

    • @j0a3k
      @j0a3k Рік тому +33

      @@DumbArse it's incredibly subtle, and it's hard to say that minor differences in tuning/how heavy you hit the drum aren't affecting the waveforms as much or more than the hacks themselves. I wouldn't say it doesn't do 'anything' to the sound, but other than the tea towels the change in sound is so minor that you would be better off tuning differently or adding a plugin rather than going through the effort for these.

    • @SearchFinger
      @SearchFinger Рік тому +4

      In rock & roll context, would you really want to strain your ears to hear the difference? People are so obsessed with details like these that they forget about making good music first, and when they do they edit and automate the hell out of it anyway... ;-)

    • @TheSquareOnes
      @TheSquareOnes Рік тому +10

      @@DumbArse As the other reply said the difference is so minor that it could have other explanations, but I also wanted to emphasize that we're talking about an instrument sound which means we're really talking about something that would be heard in the much denser context of actual music rather than the very sparse and zoomed in demonstration here. If the difference is so subtle that you can barely hear it when it's the only sound, there's no chance any actual human is going to really pick up on whether or not you used any of these "techniques" when listening to the drums mixed with a full band.
      So even if we grant that you're absolutely correct and there is a literal difference, it isn't a meaningful difference since it won't have a noticeable impact on the final product. You would be much better off spending any time and energy you'd invest into this kind of pretentious tweak on improving the aspects of the song people will actually hear (or if it's already fine then just moving on to write something else), this is the worst kind of "perfectionism" where you're basically just making up meaningless tasks to inflate how much work you've put into a track without actually improving it in any way.

  • @randallevans2073
    @randallevans2073 Рік тому +15

    Neil Graham was the percussion instructor for my high school. So great to come across this and hear his voice again.

  • @costastamanis3973
    @costastamanis3973 Рік тому +26

    Hi David, I saw this recent post of yours and it brought back some memories for me and my friends back home. This is what I wrote to them all.
    Alright this is for my peeps in Indiana that grew up with me and the Percussion Center. I was working at the Percussions Center in Ft. Wayne as a young man. Nearl Graham was my drum teacher for a long time. Here on this video is one of the things I was around as a young man. Neal Graham was the owner of the shop and was one of the most creative people I knew. He had out of the box ideas that he made come true several times. Vibra- Fibing was one of them. It was weird to see this UA-cam vid. Plus hearing Neals voice on a phone call was once again was haunting. Unfortunately Neal passed away almost 10 years ago. Any way this shop was all about drums and drummers. Not a guitar in sight. PS- Most of Neil Peart's drum sets in the beginnng years were built at Ft. Wayne's Percussion Center. I remember the Slingerland kit getting vibra-fibed. The process was laborious for sure. However, it was smooth on the inside unlike pearl's version which looked like a hand full of shredded fiberglass thrown in the drum and then sprayed with resin. The quick shot of the Tama kit does not show the cool finish it had. A whispy inked purple wood finish. All of these kits that came out of the percussion were designed by Neal Graham the owner however most the labor was done by Larry Yeager now a tour manager for Fleetwood mac. Both of them could build things from nothing and turn it into something. The are other stories but a lot custom builds came out of this shop when I was very young. I now realize what a special time and environment that was back then. back a lot of memories. Thank you, very much. Here is was I wrote to my friends back home. I watch your channel a lot and you doing a great service to all the drummers out there. Shop's like Neal and Channels like yours help drummer still come together as a community. Bravo!

  • @dustinthiessen
    @dustinthiessen Рік тому +62

    To build on the disc under the snare drum thing... a studio trick I've seen is to put a small ish cymbal under (ish) the snare drum, and actually point a mic into the cymbal. I think it's much more of a sound than just a wooden disc under the snare

    • @Hubson55
      @Hubson55 Рік тому +3

      hmmm nice! gonna try it!

    • @nickferrence8593
      @nickferrence8593 Рік тому +5

      . To build yet again on your cymbal trick a flat metal disc ie a saw blade would reflect more that a piece of wood. Wood probably absorbs sound more than metal.

    • @DavidOakesMusic
      @DavidOakesMusic Рік тому +1

      Simon Philips always sets up on a wooden platform for the reflection.

    • @fuckcensorship69
      @fuckcensorship69 Рік тому

      I play in a carpeted room. I put a few pieces of 8x8 thin wood under the snare when recording to brighten the room sound of the snare

    • @steevcoco
      @steevcoco Рік тому +1

      I similarly heard that the main thing there was a change in the bleed on other mics (I think, the kick mic) - which you can hear more at the start when you're playing the *whole* kit … fwiw! Anyway nice work on this channel!

  • @adamthomas5936
    @adamthomas5936 Рік тому +87

    Your playing has become really natural and tasteful, been following for years and have noticed loads of improvement recently.

  • @davewestner
    @davewestner Рік тому +23

    Man, the camera in the bass drum is killer....nice work dude!

  • @Vincentrohr
    @Vincentrohr Рік тому +8

    David you’re my fav UA-camr! Watching you since ages and I think it’s just mindblowing to see your journey and how you improved as a musician itself! As a recording engineer your sound hacks are SO useful and really creatively enhancing my workflow! Thanks for your things man! All the best from görmany

  • @PennyHaven
    @PennyHaven Рік тому +6

    Great video! Some subtle changes. I don’t think I loved any of them enough to try them myself, but it’s cool to see them tested. Thanks!

  • @monsterfukk7737
    @monsterfukk7737 Рік тому +2

    the tea towel sound is SO good, kind of crazy how much of a difference it made

  • @TomMendoladrums
    @TomMendoladrums Рік тому +3

    This was a lot of fun to watch. Back in the 70s I had a Pearl fiberglass and wood set. It sounded great. I did a lot of shows with it and it always cut through.

  • @MartinBarreby
    @MartinBarreby Рік тому +4

    Me sitting on the toilet listening through the phone speakers and judging: "Yea, I can hear the difference!". 🧐

  • @johndavi8740
    @johndavi8740 Рік тому +1

    Hey David. Just wanted to leave a comment on your latest video saying I love the content man! It’s awesome. I can’t get enough of your channel. I’ve learned a ton about the ins and outs of drums besides the playing portion. Thanks a bunch, bro! Keep the content coming PLEASE! :)

  • @DougDrums
    @DougDrums Рік тому +19

    Here’s one I tried when I was 16 or 17 around 1980, way before internet and when you only heard things by word of mouth (which is how I heard this) or in Modern Drummer. An older, more experienced drummer told me that if you wanted to tame the ringiness of a steel snare, stick some maxi pads on the inside of the shell. From what I remember, it did help some. And my sister was none the wiser. 😂

    • @lifeunderthestarstv
      @lifeunderthestarstv Рік тому +3

      A lot of these is all the same logic. Put something fragile and thin on the inside drum liner to amplify overtones and dynamics. Put something that absorbs the sound to do the opposite, cotton balls, a towel, a pillow. It's all the same logic and was huge in the 70s.

    • @DougDrums
      @DougDrums Рік тому +1

      @@lifeunderthestarstv I agree. And today, there is a large portion of drum accessories designed to muffle drums and cymbals, such as moongels, rings, snareweights, muffled heads, etc. When I started drumming, none of these existed. We had to improvise. 😎

    • @lifeunderthestarstv
      @lifeunderthestarstv Рік тому +1

      @@DougDrums its cool how far it's come man, I still remember messing with pillows and towels in the bass drum in music class 😆

    • @CardinalEgan
      @CardinalEgan Рік тому +2

      I remember Hal Blaine saying that he used Rubbermaid bathtub appliques to muffle his drum heads. Back then, they had that sort of daisy/asterisk 70's shape. Came in different colors too! ✳ I still use Dr. Scholl's moleskin where the BD beater hits.

    • @DougDrums
      @DougDrums Рік тому +1

      @@CardinalEgan Thanks for sharing that. Hal Blaine is possibly my all time favorite drummer!

  • @clinterz
    @clinterz Рік тому

    I had a Pearl wood/fiberglass kit in the late 70's and I loved it.

  • @TonyJBrennan
    @TonyJBrennan Рік тому +5

    the snare plate works, I usually use 3 large round river rocks , and put them under the snare between the snare stand feet on carpeted floors - this diffuses the snare sound back up into the overhead mics and the drummers ears , gives a nice air to the sound .

  • @konnai4973
    @konnai4973 Рік тому

    Seeing the creativity from decades ago was really cool!

  • @glbwoodsbum2567
    @glbwoodsbum2567 Рік тому +1

    Really great presentation, and research!!! Great video my friend.

  • @jeremiahcowling3837
    @jeremiahcowling3837 11 місяців тому

    My current kit has one of those 70’s Pearl wood-fiberglass kits for my 24 kick and 16 floor (currently an auxiliary kick for me, I use a 15x12 stainless snare w/ a hydraulic head as my floor). When I got it it also came with a solid fiberglass 12 concert tom. Definitely works enough for me, especially cause I got those three plus a Pearl steel snare for $200 total locally

  • @matthewpaluch777
    @matthewpaluch777 Рік тому +2

    Another fun episode David! Regarding the vibra-fibing you definitely have to add more sheets. Sometimes it's as thick as a ply or two of wood.

  • @AJMjazz
    @AJMjazz Рік тому +5

    I like the table idea at the very end. Like George Carlin always said, "You gotta have a place for your stuff. Then you can get more stuff!"

  • @mohdamiruddinsulaiman1383
    @mohdamiruddinsulaiman1383 Рік тому +13

    Dave speaking inside bass drum is just hillarious

  • @AtanoKSi
    @AtanoKSi 10 місяців тому

    I love how I watch this channel, specially the drum hacks, with MASSIVE interest, while all drums I own are a millenium electric e-kit, a pair of broken bongos I bought for 2€, a toy tambourine and a sleight bells

  • @RogerHeathers
    @RogerHeathers Рік тому

    Big fan of the Ringo tea towel method. Love your channel man

  • @jamessealy9510
    @jamessealy9510 Рік тому

    I used old strips of fabric for my Ringo sound. I was talking with a friend of mine and mentioned how i didnt have the right tuning intervals on my toms to do Come Together. I put some strips of fabric (my family are tailors) on the drums so they wouldn't hurt his ears (is much older then me), soon as i played my drums, i noticed they sounded EXACTLY like Ringos on come together.

  • @jtsloth
    @jtsloth Рік тому

    My first kit was a Tama rockstar I got used and the shells were lined with legit sheet metal. Never did an A/B and didn't realize it wasn't a factory installed deal until after the drums were sold off.

  • @kylewagoner
    @kylewagoner Рік тому +2

    Love my Pearl Wood/Fiberglass kit. Looks great, too!

    • @roadrocket7
      @roadrocket7 Рік тому

      I had a brand new Pearl WoodFiberglass kit I bought at Strings & Things in Memphis, late 1980. Chrome (real metal wrap). 24/18/16/14/13...these drums weighed A TON! But...they sounded great. Amazingly bright and warm at the same time. I still have them. Lugging them around was the equivalent of schlepping 2 Marshall double-stack amps.

  • @nathanbusch3953
    @nathanbusch3953 Рік тому

    I found a 22 inch metal trash can lid I use as a beater head sometimes. Super cool tone.

  • @kiltymacbagpipe
    @kiltymacbagpipe Рік тому +1

    I used a dremel to keep the edges of a crack from touching. It worked. The metal on metal sound disappeared but it didn’t sound like it did before being cracked.

  • @douglewis6924
    @douglewis6924 Рік тому +1

    Our 4 song demo back in 1992 was recorded in Toronto with Canadian Loonie 1$ coins that were taped on the bass drum skins in front of the foot pedal batter for more of a kick. The drummer loved it. We did anything to sound like D.R.I.

  • @sydmccreath4554
    @sydmccreath4554 Рік тому +1

    In the UK an old trick was to Gaffa tape an old (pre decimal) Penny on the Bass drum skin.
    REALLY made the bass drum LOUDER!

  • @haydynw2008
    @haydynw2008 Рік тому

    I loved this video so much great job!

  • @uber_stuber
    @uber_stuber Рік тому

    especially with that preference at the end, i love the way you think haha

  • @puente987
    @puente987 Рік тому

    Those 80's Tama Superstars are gorgeous!

  • @hazelschannel162
    @hazelschannel162 Рік тому +1

    Real cool camera work and some really nice transitions!

  • @fallenshallrise
    @fallenshallrise Рік тому

    I couldn't concentrate on the sound of the 'vibra-fibed' snare because that cymbal you crashed sounded so damn amazing!

  • @crazyjoeshorts5256
    @crazyjoeshorts5256 Рік тому

    I've done the towel thing, but mostly for small rooms and apartments. even stuffed them full of shirts and stuff. Taped the cymbals, ( like two or three pieces of electrical tape.) and I could play drums in an upstairs apartment. Old dude beneath just thought I was listening to the stereo and never complained.

  • @dedeucelaborde8918
    @dedeucelaborde8918 Рік тому

    My 1976 Ludwig 9 pie e with 6 melodic Tom's 18 floor tom 24 inch bass with ghost pedal. Was a composite

  • @oreoandoz7723
    @oreoandoz7723 Рік тому

    I use sport tape, batter and reso heads on all my toms. Leaves no residue at all, easy to put on on and take off, dampens them right down.

  • @ZeshXD
    @ZeshXD Рік тому

    I just did a similar thing today at a concert, the local floor drum was ringing as hell, i just put my hoodie on the bass drum and place one arm on the floor Tom. Perfect.

  • @craigshewchuk9018
    @craigshewchuk9018 Рік тому

    For the rivots I use round head fasteners, you can take them in and out easy and for 449 they are a 100 box

  • @SajoDetro
    @SajoDetro Рік тому

    Loved the end

  • @wesleytitus3885
    @wesleytitus3885 Рік тому

    This first thing I did when I got drums like 5 years ago was stuff a blanket in the kick drum and on the toms it works since I lost the key

  • @Riverking1
    @Riverking1 Рік тому

    The only channel I give thumbs up before watching the video!

  • @tapeexperiments
    @tapeexperiments Рік тому

    LOVe the idea of different weight rivets for different sounds..

  • @indipiraterecordsbrucescot2174
    @indipiraterecordsbrucescot2174 9 місяців тому

    love the attack on the fiberglass. little more punch.

  • @artyomdonka
    @artyomdonka Рік тому +1

    I like wood disk under the snare. But I heard difference only with the full drum set being played. From my experience: I put small wooden panel of axis in front of the didgeridoo when playing in guite dead room. That way I get reflections back to my ears and hear articulations better.

  • @drumboyed
    @drumboyed Рік тому +1

    Bernard Purdie had a snare drum reflection disc that he was personally selling/distributing years ago. I was working at Columbus Percussion and he walked in, while on tour with Aretha and tried to get us to stock them. His pitch was to throw it on the floor and specifically use it to amplify brush playing. He did a demo for us and i'm pretty sure he just played louder when he threw the disc down. Love the dude's playing, but we weren't buying it 😂

  • @breadnaut3087
    @breadnaut3087 Рік тому

    The snare drum table is my favorite hack

  • @Thatleftydrummer
    @Thatleftydrummer Рік тому

    repairing cymbals/modifying them is a super cool process, and can last for years and years.
    I worked with a local machine shop, we found the trick is slow speeds and very very low pressure. Cutting out cracks, or small edge cracks(if its less than 1/4" ish you can save a majority of the sound of the cymbal and even some taper), and some kind of lower support mount made of wood in the shape of the drum. Something else to consider is balance, when you take mass out of one side its good to do the opposite side so the cymbal balances, since your taking a large enough bit out to change mass on one side the sound was going to change anyway. I had 2 a custom crashes we shaved several cracks off the edge. I played them for another 9 years, and only paid $35 for the pair(plus the fee of the machine shop, your mileage may vary) Find a local machine shop and work with them, they do custom stuff all the time. If you're doing it at home, you are limited on how much you can mod because of the limit and inconsistency of hand tools. not that its impossible but if you're looking for gigging/recording quality and more longevity, using big mills etc at those shops help keep the integrity of the surrounding cymbal in check.

  • @gordgibson6654
    @gordgibson6654 Рік тому +1

    I was totally amused, you made me laugh out loud, I like your humour..." as far as I know the kitchen's still there!"

  • @sirhenners204
    @sirhenners204 Рік тому

    RE the tea towels hack, leather also works really nicely as well

  • @ronnyinwaxhaw
    @ronnyinwaxhaw Рік тому

    Great video, very interesting hacks.

  • @ericstearns170
    @ericstearns170 Рік тому +7

    Neil also used the Vibra-fibing on his Ludwig kit (Modern Drummer 1988 (June maybe) - article 'The Quest for Drums')

    • @joeday4293
      @joeday4293 Рік тому +1

      The first kit of his you ever heard that did not have that process was his first DW kit.

  • @StrilliVanilliDrums
    @StrilliVanilliDrums Рік тому

    Never heard of any of these except the tea towel which I do sometimes use when I want a muffled, dark jazzy sound to my drum sound without having to post-process it (which I enjoy way more; analogue sound hacks instead of post-processed ones).

    • @CardinalEgan
      @CardinalEgan Рік тому

      Yes, analog all the way. I once worked on a film soundtrack, scoring a battle scene with ancient Chinese swords and such. I hit wrenches, pipes, and other metal tools to get various sounds. The producer liked it and asked which sample library I used. I told him "Craftsman".

  • @Nick_Slavik
    @Nick_Slavik Рік тому

    So far, I've seen the wood shells with resin and foil and I'm leaning on no modifications lol

  • @DeathsPit00
    @DeathsPit00 Рік тому

    Bro I had idea you were in Richmond. You're right up the road from me. Small world. haha. Keep up the great work.

  • @pogocityradio77
    @pogocityradio77 Рік тому

    Wow never heard of drilling a cymbal to fix a crack that shit works gr8 on this old Custom Zildjian Z Med 16 inch crash, that was on my attic floor and is now on our set!

  • @worldssickestmedia2713
    @worldssickestmedia2713 Рік тому

    Wow. It's amazing how everything but the towels made absolutely no fkin difference what so ever. I'm astounded.

  • @backwaterboatrehab
    @backwaterboatrehab Рік тому

    The more I see that Acrylic DW kit, the more I feel like I need one.

  • @TravisAlanHall
    @TravisAlanHall Рік тому

    I also completely thrashed the first “nice” cymbal I ever bought. It was a used A custom china that already had a few cracks in it. Picked it up from MME for like $120 . Beat the absolute devil out of it.

  • @XGATEXKEEPERX
    @XGATEXKEEPERX Рік тому

    Try aluminum flashing it’s stiffer, it’s cheap and can be found at Home Depot. I used some for a wrap alternative, I had the idea of lining the inside of my kick with it but haven’t got around to it.

  • @vistalite-ph4zw
    @vistalite-ph4zw Рік тому

    I've done the rivet hack on some cymbals before and instead of a T towel I used a washcloth on the snare. Also have done the wallet on the snare drum batter head for a FAT sound

  • @weschilton
    @weschilton Рік тому +1

    OH MAN! I had forgotten all about "Vibro Fibing" man good find!
    Hey David, with that last snare drum hack, try setting an upside down snare head in the basket then put the snare on top of that. I have heard that it actually cuts down on overtones, lowers the volume and focuses the fundamental of the drum more.

    • @Born2RockU1
      @Born2RockU1 Рік тому

      WES ! ..is this for an 'only TOP mic' application ? ....or, you imply a MIC on top + Bottom application... with the Bottom mic, BELOW your idea ?

  • @synergymusicstudio
    @synergymusicstudio Рік тому

    That snare night stand is awesome ;)

  • @sirdrum-a-lot
    @sirdrum-a-lot Рік тому +1

    Posted just in time for me to enjoy getting my drumset back after it was stolen. Great video

    • @joeday4293
      @joeday4293 Рік тому

      Yeesh. There is an especially hot seat in hell reserved for instrument thieves. It's only one floor above where they keep the pedos and elder abusers.

  • @brianmickey8103
    @brianmickey8103 Рік тому

    Thanks for spending time I won't need to spend

  • @buckstarchaser2376
    @buckstarchaser2376 Рік тому

    Your repositionable disk could use a servo mechanism. Then, you'd have a mechanical version of a resonant filter, enabling all the techno drumming.
    The Aluminum foil in the bass drum made me wonder what it would be like if you hung one of those beaded curtain things in there. People used to use them to somewhat cover a doorway, when there was no door there, but then you'd have beads dragging all over you when you walked through them. They tended to make interesting noises from all the little wooden balls clanking together though, so inside a bass drum may add quite a bit of interesting, unwanted noise.

  • @DaveMenkehorst
    @DaveMenkehorst Рік тому

    5:14 LOVE IT!

  • @MouseFloof
    @MouseFloof Рік тому

    Try the old Vibra-Sonic hack; which is just basically a VERY thick coating of white paint (or multiple coats if you wanna go crazy). It was a specialty of Hayman Drums in the UK in the late 60's

  • @Nick_Slavik
    @Nick_Slavik Рік тому

    Ohhh! I'm torn on the tea towels hahaha There are aspects of both that I enjoy haha

  • @jaknik4601
    @jaknik4601 Рік тому

    You definitely could be onto something with your disc invention!

  • @j-hop91
    @j-hop91 Рік тому +1

    Great content! I know electronics aren't really your thing, but I still want to see you do an A2E conversion!

  • @yelltempus
    @yelltempus Рік тому

    When you have a crack with a hole drilled at each end take a hack saw blade, push it in the crack at the hole & saw along the crack so the edges don't rub together. It slows down the spreading of the crack

  • @chasebh89
    @chasebh89 Рік тому

    that floor tom in the tea towel hack was absolutely meaty without the towel

  • @alinpass2246
    @alinpass2246 Рік тому +1

    Rather than wood, I know a guy use put a couple pieces of large tile chunks. Used 3 to virtually cover the floor under the snare without setting the legs on an uneven surface.

  • @JerridFoiles
    @JerridFoiles Рік тому

    a 360 camera in the bass drum? You're a genius.

  • @thefigure13
    @thefigure13 Рік тому

    I can’t help but think of John Good every time someone starts knocking shells

  • @mydixienormous5746
    @mydixienormous5746 Рік тому +3

    Honesty at this point I could watch David do any so called drum hack and would be enjoyable to watch. Welp, time to piss off my neighbors and jam out 🥹 This channel always makes me want to play

  • @timort2260
    @timort2260 Рік тому

    Dude that resin hack is gonna save my kit when starts cracking apart. Cause I burned it with electricity. But thank you odds are I'll be doing that

  • @mightyV444
    @mightyV444 Рік тому +1

    This video reminds me of my 13-year-old self creating my own electronic drum pad, in '83 and with instructions from a musicians' magazine: I used one of my bongos for this (which had been my very first 'toms') and glued a circle of tin foil onto the skin's underside and mounted an old guitar pick-up underneath this; This would basically work on the same principles as an electric guitar's strings and pick-ups. When I plugged it into an amp, all I heard was a very underwhelming "tsh-tsh" noise instead of the expected Simmons®-like "doo-doo" sound, though - I eventually figuered that I'd also need a sound module to plug this into, which the article had somehow forgotten to mention 😄

    • @joeday4293
      @joeday4293 Рік тому +1

      LOL, 13 year olds are so dumb. Take it from a former 13 year old. ✌😄

    • @mightyV444
      @mightyV444 Рік тому +1

      @@joeday4293 - LOL! Yes, totally! 😂👍 And it hadn't stopped there either! After a later issue of the same magazine was released and had Eddie Van Halen with his famous guitar on the cover, I somehow believed it to be a great idea to modify my _own_ guitar like that (My very first one, too! A Strat copy for around 300 bucks) and ripped out all the electronics and replaced them with only that old humbucker pick-up from my 'awesome' e-drum pad plus 1 Volume control: 1.) My guitar looked absolutely horrible afterwards compared to EVH's because of its sunburst finish, and 2.) I still wasn't suddenly able to also _play_ like him! 👎😄

  • @c0bem0n
    @c0bem0n Рік тому +8

    0:10 Vibra-Fibring shells
    3:14 aluminum foil inside bass
    5:31 Drilling holes in cymbal cracks
    8:36 tea towels
    9:36 reso snare disk

  • @StandbyCymbalist
    @StandbyCymbalist Рік тому

    Rack Tom at a wacky angle vs horizontal and Batter coated vs clear resonate heads are some "hacks" I like.

  • @user-pq6lm4mi3c
    @user-pq6lm4mi3c Рік тому

    Well, the table drumhack is definitely the most useful here.

  • @Stretchwreckedem469
    @Stretchwreckedem469 Рік тому

    The towel thing seems to work great if you're going for 70's funk. 🤔
    As for the cracked cymbal i wonder how well it would work in the context of a Metal mix and if it would help accentuate the aggressive nature of the cymbals in a positive way.

  • @cactusstudiossouth
    @cactusstudiossouth Рік тому

    Lol! In the over 50 years I've done just about every drum hack you can imagine! From Jig Sawing cracked Cymbals to a smaller size to driving 10 penny nails on an angle in front my Bass Drum Spikes to stop it from walking!

  • @danbailey8182
    @danbailey8182 10 днів тому

    My first kit was a 7 piece Pearl kit. Personally I prefer the sound of wood. I remember the long strands of fibreglass they used which was kind of a cool conversation piece.

  • @weareallbeingwatched4602
    @weareallbeingwatched4602 Рік тому

    Reflectivity is impedance. Stronger materials are more reflective. It has been shown that applying metal film to the inside of the drum can make it 3dB louder. You have to glue the foil on with epoxy to get the effect, it is similar to the glass fiber, and basically makes the drum slightly brighter and louder. Loose tinfoil will sap energy out of the drum.

  • @moresnqp
    @moresnqp Рік тому +1

    I've always had a towel or blanket in my kick haha

  • @AqueousMantra
    @AqueousMantra 8 місяців тому

    Try brass paper fasteners, like on manilla envelopes, for rivets. They're great

  • @davidiracheta111
    @davidiracheta111 Рік тому

    Wowwwwwwwwwww, muy interesante.
    Saludos desde México

  • @paulmiller8367
    @paulmiller8367 Рік тому

    Hacks with all that lol but some was cool tho when I seen Petter Erskine playing with Stan Kenton big band his ride had a big crack in it he said it gave it a different sound I was a guest back stage cool video about the hacks

  • @CarlosGonazelezGomezEricaGomez

    What Up David You’re Back Bro Welcome Back ❤❤

  • @nickysticksdrumflicks
    @nickysticksdrumflicks Рік тому

    This doesn't really fit into the old school drum hacks scenario but, do you remember a drum rack that was sold in the late 90s I believe, and the gimmick was that it sat you in a reclined position while playing? It was basically a platform that all your drums and stands attached to and it had a throne/chair mounted to it as well. I remember Tony Royster Jr maybe being in a Modern Drummer ad with it.

  • @ChampeFordRecording
    @ChampeFordRecording Рік тому

    Hey you finally did it!

  • @tommyt9519
    @tommyt9519 Рік тому

    Old school Pearl wood-fiberglass drums used random matrix chopped glass mat instead of cloth. The finish wasn't perfectly smooth and the fiberglass was quite a bit thicker than a single layer of 6k cloth. They projected pretty well but nothing like a Reference!

  • @CardinalEgan
    @CardinalEgan Рік тому

    The wooden disc under snare thing would probably have more effect if the floor was really absorptive. Like, when you get to the gig and have to set up on thick carpeting. It doesn't need to be a disk... a scrap piece of plywood or particle board under the snare stand is fine.