One of the greatest things about your narration is that you don’t get personally outraged as most podcasters do. Your unbiased rendering of the crime is so engaging & appreciated!
We will agree to disagree. However like most of the best content producers in this niche, he's got a trait most share. He seems to be very good at coming off totally non biased, like an old school news reporter
My worst nightmare is seeing my husband like that, calling 911 and then having experienced detectives point their arrows at me while I’m grieving. I can’t think of a worse mental torture.
Yes, I don't think it's right that they questioned him so soon after seeing his wife with her head half blown off. I know they needed to question him, but it seemed rather callous of them to at least not put it off for 24 hours or so. But then again if he were in fact the killer, he could have probably tried to skip town/leave the country.
They look for evidence, and at evidence, and then focus on a particular suspect or suspects. There was circumstantial evidence pointing to the husband, and for me he remains the person who most likely killed her. First, Darlene wasn't the victim of a random crime: Somebody doesn't just pull up to a rural farmhouse in the middle of the day and shoot one of the occupants. That almost never happens. Somebody had to have had a motive to killer her--and so who? Other than the husband, the only other possibility, apparently, was her brother--and while he had some problems, brothers don't have kill their sisters. I put very little weight in the supposed eyewitnesses who supposedly saw a white car at the farmhouse and speeding away. It's been proven many times that eyewitnesses often make mistakes and are not often reliable.
Yeah, as I heard all the evidence I kept thinking (I assumed a twist was coming) that it seemed like the husband was either obviously guilty or he just had the worst luck possible- turns out the latter was the case. I did feel like his emotions were too sincere to be the guilty party though. For the most part you can tell from the 911 call often times. There are always exceptions though.
Nothing was definitely linking the husband! Too circumstantial for me! He never changed his clothes… unknown dna on gloves, etc nothing linked him in this case!!
Likely murder weapon makes no sense…,none of stolen property found or weapon. Needed z definite link and there wasn’t one and children changed their story of the sound after being around others. People react differently when one loses a loved one or becomes lonely!!
The credit-card angle is nonsense. It's a huge leap for someone to go from fraudulently use a credit card number to murder---and what would the motive be? There wouldn't be a motive. Police didn't follow up with that lead because it was, and remains, far-fetched and weak. Didn't happen. I also doubt the eyewitnesses who claim to have seen a white car speeding away from the crime scene. Eyewitnesses often claim to have seen things that they didn't really see---or they just get details wrong. Eyewitnesses are well known to be unreliable. The only person other than the husband who could have killed her was, it would seem, her brother--and I don't think he did it. The person who most likely killed her remains the husband.
Love your videos. Very professional. As a lawyer, I would caution anyone whose spouse is killed or harmed to seek legal counsel before talking to the police. The idea that you don't need counsel if you're innocent is naive in this day and age.
Murderers are convicted on the basis of evidence collected - some of it circumstantial . They are NOT convicted on the basis of anything said in a Police interview ! Especially when the interview is filmed. ! It's irrelevant whether a lawyer is present or not .!
@@2msvalkyrie529 I don’t think it’s anything specific what a person might say. It’s that the police aren’t your friend. They will twist and turn everything to suit whatever ends they want. They’re allowed to lie, we’re not. That alone should be enough. Guilty? Get a lawyer. Innocent? Even more reason to get a lawyer.
the credit card usage was not followed up as well...shoddy and very lax police work...they just focused on one suspect!! RIP Darlene, hope your killer is caught by the cold case team!
@@adambane1719 thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼 Om (or Aum) is a symbol representing a sacred sound, syllable, mantra, and an invocation in Hinduism. It is the most important Hindu symbols 🕉️ 🙏🏼
@@krissypeters1517 I agree. That fake crying during interrogation was very bad acting. He even attempted coughing at one point while fake-crying! Who coughs when they cry? Only bad actors in b-movies who also have trouble crying.
Not near enough evidence , bumbling detectives. They cant check the body temp like EVERY crime lab in the country for decades to see if she was killed earlier?
@@SpicyTexan64 Missing Glass was too much for me to get over. The Dry Shower is a complete Dead Give Away, something is not adding up. I think he may have "Arranged" this. I do think he smashed the back glass door. Very troubling.
Though he did say his ears are extra sensitive. Unless you have his ears and heard that exact sound on that day you will never know. He did say glass at the start and that was unbiased in my view. Being with the mothers family for years and speaking again he had a slightly different account. It’s called manipulation.
I love this channel. Your voice is so soothing and the calm way you deliver the story is just relaxing and wonderful to listen to. The research is always done well, stories well put together, the set you use, the cats...all just goes together for a wonderful, relaxing time. Thank you.
Your videos are really amongst the best I’ve seen and I watch a large number of them! No nonsense, straight to the point, no tangential bs, just really solid reporting! Can’t thank you enough! So tired of the way all the other channels seem to think we’re interested in the country it happened in, the storyteller’s personal life, etc! Very well done!!
Things were a lot cheaper in 2009. My dad bought a house 3 bed room in 1991 for $81,000 making only $15hr. It wasn't in a rural area where homes are cheaper, it was right in the capital of the state, 3 miles from downtown. He worked as a teacher's assistant and did bus duty.
Another great video, Kevin. I live about 45 mins from Coldwater and don’t recall this case but I am glad he had a retrial because the amount of circumstantial evidence was overwhelming. Had I sat on that jury, there is no way I would’ve voted guilty. It’s a shame the police squandered leads and have allowed the case to go cold post acquittal. She deserves justice and so does Tom.
I was about to change the video until I finished this comment. The fact that I saw “acquittal” is what kept me around because I was getting frustrated. I’m not even halfway through! The “investigators” are pathetic.
Another superb unpacking of a case that "really makes you think"... alongside 'This is Monsters', you are the most thorough & well presented true crime channel I am aware of! Puccini (UK)
It’s the fraudulent credit card thing for me . They should have looked into that avenue further . And meanwhile this innocent man sat in jail for 2 years while his son was brainwashed by the family 🤦♀️ these cases although not surprising, are always sad . Police get tunnel vision & don’t explore other options in so many cases .
@taylorpresley4604 Not likely the husband would rely on a criminal not only finding but using his financial details to fraudulently acquire credit cards to create the husbands own alibi, is it?
Wait a minute! Are you telling me that once the police had a suspect in custody and charged, they ignored evidence, which could have jeopardize their case? The police wouldn’t do that... right? 🙄
Before you even mentioned the additional evidence that the police didn't investigate, I was like: I'm not sure he did this. I feel like they went straight to him, and didn't pursue anyone else, and the fact that they haven't done any more investigating proves how close minded they are, and is very frustrating! Her brother is extremely suspicious, and it makes me wonder who he knows on the police force. 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah... I'm not at ALL buying that he had nothing to do with it and I'm also not buying the neighbor's stories. Maybe they were paid off or something? Why would anyone withhold that info for so long in the first place? Bc she's "afraid"... Of what?!?!
AS it turned out, the case was bigger than the prosecutor. She should have been tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail for allowing the case to go silent once he was acquitted.
quickly becoming one of my favorite TC channels there are only 4 or 5 channels that i look forward to and this is one of them now keep up the great work!
Using lil kids should be banned in court. They're easily manipulated and live in a fantasy world. My 7 year old saw me cleaning my gun, called the police. Not until the police talked him into what type of gun, it became a machine-gun. (First time he saw a gun and it scared him). Police came and saw my 357 cleaned and in a holster. See how kids interpret their world around them, especially with the help of others?
I agree. Kids say silly things and end up believing their own stories. Thats just how their minds work. Some people never grow out of it. Like my dad. He kept inventing stories till he died. His words could never be trusted. And worst of all, he believed his own babble. Kids stories don't belong in court.
No such thing. They have such a low bar for what they consider a motive for murder. Especially when virtually all murders are committed without much motive and are simply over-reactions to unfolding situations.
That was a very interesting case. Absolute reasonable doubt in Tom's guilt. Don't know whether he did it or not but I think the jury came to the correct conclusion.
Idk, there’s just TOO many coincidences. Like him telling the boys to go outside and play BEFORE going to get ready for the party. The boys hearing a loud sound while playing outside. I get that the police didn’t directly ask him about the loud sound before trial, but most often (than not) they’d usually ask a suspect about what they did in a day. I would think that’s a pretty significant thing to just forget during the course of multiple police interviews.
@@deevasquez1171 Except that, if the bag was originally from his home (like the stolen paperwork, etc.), why would it NOT have his fingerprints on it? Did they ever identify a DNA match for that glove found at the scene (they had stated that the DNA on it matched neither Tom nor Darlene).
Excellent story Kevin. I do hope some day there will be justice for Darlene (and Tom). Great pity the folks that saw vehicles didn't come forward sooner. I think I will be re-watching this video later! Thank you ❤
Wow lots of twists and turns. I like how you don’t give away the outcome until the end and that makes it most interesting. Thanks you’re my favorite crime channel.
Pressing these young boys to define a sound they heard from a distance and putting words in their mouths by offering specific suggestions should've made their statements about it inadmissible. If the information told here is all there was this matter should not even have gone to court. They had nothing. The jury needs to be reminded they are not required to convict anyone. They are well within their rights and responsibility to return a verdict that nothing was proven. Sometimes I wonder if there are 12 people anywhere who could be assembled as a qualified jury.
No it's not. When you live in the country, you're parents tell you to go outside and play all the time. It's a daily occurrence. My parents told my brother and I that all the time so they could get stuff done without us running around the house.
Love this channel! I love how you tell the facts without your biased opinion added to it. I'm ok with those that do, but honestly it's rare these days and it's refreshing to hear! ❤
I wonder why those witnesses didn’t come forward earlier. Thankfully they came forward eventually. Definitely reasonable doubt in regards to his guilt. The credit cards, finding different DNA at the scene. Seems like shoddy police work from the outset. Great presentation as always. Rest easy Dar. I hope your killer is found ❤🇦🇺
Well, Jeanette said she was scared, and I believe was having mental health issues at the time if I'm now recalling correctly; don't know about the other two witnesses.
Very well done Kevin. This was new to me as a crime story and was told in such a precise, detailed calm manner. Thank you for sharing. It is for these reasons that this channel is so successful. Many thanks.
This is really an interesting case, and I do think follow-ups should have occurred before they completely fingered Tom. Too many cars, sardines by neighbors that were never brought up in court so far as any follow-through by the police. The police were the problem in this case, due to the lack of investigation..
I think it was a good idea that the witnesses did not bring up sardines to the court. They stink and I think the judge would have had a problem with that! 🐟🐟🐟🤣
What are these "legal grounds" that caused Tom to not collect any monies that he was rightfully owed because of a wrongful conviction? Poor man. Poor son. What a bunch of lazy incompetent law enforcement people from the police all the way up to the prosecuting attorneys/officials. It's easy to blame the husband right off the bat....end of story...our work here is done. Shameful
Thanks Kevin. Great upload as always!... I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to have found a loved one murdered only to find that you are the ONLY suspect!?... The manipulation of his own son is a crime in itself...and as soon as you said the brother had a shotgun... unreported to have been stolen?.... mmmm...??? An all round shit show from the word go...and a refusal by the cops to even question neighbours or look at other suspects? A terrible and so tragic a story.... blessings to all those affected by the loss of Darlene....❤
Totally agree. And forgot to mention I was saddened to learn his lawsuit was dismissed for being wrongly incarcerated for two years. That's two years of his life lost... birthdays, holidays, etc. Certainly he should have been entitled to that money in my opinion.
Cops are great... Yes, it is the husband in most cases so they said - "F the investigation, let's indict the husband and have few beers. Work? Police work? Work is for suckers." The only thing missing in this case is the psychic saying - "it was the butler.. hmm... no butler you say? the husband then!"
And in most cases, it is the husband. This is well known. Or the wife. Especially when on a muddy day, no muddy shoe prints were found on the floor! So naturally the suspicion falls on the husband. Do you think the killer brought a towel to wipe down the soles of his shoes before entering through the broken window?
No, it is NEVER the husband. The pigs always set the husband of boyfriend up. WE have ZERO proven cases in hundreds of years of having courts and judges. They just get to decide what they want to have happened, because they have no way to investigate what actually hapapned, we as a society do not develop factual tools for investigating, we instead use prosecution tactics to set men up.
That first jury was incompetent. Prosecutors 'evidence' was horribly lacking. There is no way I would have convicted him even the first time. I'm very happy this poor man was let loose.
So the small boy whose mother's head was blown off with a shotgun, whose father was in prison for shooting her, is taken on a church outing where they get to shoot off shotguns that brings back the memory of the day his mother died. That's therapy for you.
Awesome channel, I’ve watched a video every night before bed and I’ve only a couple videos left. Thank you for all the effort you put in to each video for us ❤
I dunno. What I do know is most times these detectives have tunnel vision when they have one suspect in sight. This causes them to ignore everything and everyone else.
In reality there is no way to investigate what actually happens, at the very best an eye-witness can testify, but the fact is that eye witness testimony is disproven more often than it holds up, so it is better to stop interfering and just let people be.
I dont think the husband was guilty at all and thankfully the 2nd jury felt the same. With all the ppl coming forward for the 2nd trial, it seems they really rushed to prosecute him originally. And once again, as in SO many cases, there was a ton of reasonable doubt and yet the first jury found him guilty. That is so scary. Just his reaction when they first interviewed him. I mean, I know there are some good actors out there but to me he seemed truly crushed. My heart goes out to Darlene, her family and friends. I hope they find out who really did this to her because its my opinion that there is a murderer walking the streets.
The trail of the stolen crredi cards should have been pursued. But the police was too.lazy to act after framing a potentially innocent man. That's as bad as the crime itself.
Agree with all you say and I don’t think any actor in the world could be that good. That was real pain and you could see it and feel it. Detectives prosecutors don’t like to be wrong. They go hunting in wrong directions often. It happens more than most would know. If your defence is weak you are in strife even if you are innocent.
One of the saddest parts of this story is of the son, Heath Foley…. How, over time, he remembered things differently, possibly coerced by family members while his dad was the only suspect for killing his mom…. It seemed like the glass pane incident evolved into a gun shot memory, pinning his dad on the crime? So sad. Praying that Heath and Tom’s relationship was fully mended and their hearts are healed from this entire, multilevel, life-shattering tragedy.
your heart never "mends" when you lose your mother as a child. especially when she's killed by someone and justice is never served. I know this first hand.
Depends on where you're from I guess. I live in a rural Minnesota area and the local public schools have skeet shooting as an extracurricular activity.
I came across your channel today, (thanks to the UA-cam Faeries,) and enjoyed your approach to these cases and the non-sensationalist, approach throughout the programme. I have subscribed and look forward to watching more of your content going forward. Cheers, Kevin, all the way from Australia! 😊🦘
Police procedure in cases like this is to visit and speak to as many neighbours as possible as many people are afraid of coming forward. That they failed to do this in this instance shows sloppy and lazy attitudes to their work, compounded by a prosecution equally incompetent. However, if we can judge by the hundreds of cases now available for scrutiny such attitudes are relatively rare and I am struck by how thorough most police forces are in their search for the truth.
Not sure what to make of this. Him having little to no blood spatter on him and no evidence of changing his clothes makes me inclined to believe his innocence.
I really enjoy your videos. You focus on the facts and do so impartially. Also, I appreciate being spared ( less time ) on the 911 calls and description on the crime scene (photos etc.) as it can be disturbing to mental health. I appreciate more the detective process, the mystery, trial etc.. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
Man, I'm So glad the poor guy got out within a few years rather than decades. What a terrible miscarriage of justice, and a showcase of justice system tunnel-vision/corruption. Some other innocent victims of the justice system never escape a railroad like this.
Hey Kevin glad to see another great new video. This one definitely hasn't been covered by anyone well done. By the way you need to get some merch up on your site!!! Candle Chef
If your spouse is murdered: 1) NEVER talk to the Cops. 2) Get a lawyer ASAP. There are MANY innocent people in prison today who were wrongly convicted of murdering their spouse.
And there are 10 times as many that are guilty that are in the free world. That obviously is in no way is an appropriate comparison!!!! It is very sad to think of the idea of being imprisoned after losing a loved one. It’s so crazy
@@donnakreye8339 Not a fair comparison ??? They used to teach in Law Schools that it's better to set 100 guilty people free than to put one innocent person in prison. People apparently don't feel that way any more. That's because our System is actually on Revenge, rather than on true Justice.
Men don't think clearly. My husband would prob do that if I didn't have a cellphone. Shit he don't worry for me after couple hrs that I should of been home. Not that he doesn't care. He knows I can take care of myself and just isn't that type of person. If I ever went missing or God forbid anything else he'd be so suspect for NO reason.
Well If someone is running an hour late and picking up 3 boys ten minutes apart, maybe you would believe he would be at least at the 2nd house? You wouldn’t think she would be still at home an hour after ? Well I wouldn’t and without mobiles in those days, I would ring to see which boys have been picked up. Common sense
I remember this case from a long time ago. I have no idea if he’s guilty, but a few things stand out: 1. Why did he tell the kids to go play in the barn when they were playing video games inside before the party? That’s seems kind of odd. 2. Does the sound of glass breaking make your ears ring? Does it carry that far? I don’t think it does? 3. Why would alleged assailants in a white sedan choose this farm? Why a shotgun? Why kill the homeowner? Why no defense wounds on Dar? 4. The credit card use in another location is exculpatory, but what if he dumped that stuff somewhere and it was found by a random scumbag? 5. Also exculpatory: There’s no way he would leave those shell casings in his own basement, in a bag with his prints, while getting rid of jewelry, paperwork, and credit cards. 6. After Dar didn’t show for the birthday party at 5:00, Tom went straight home to check on her. Phone records show he never called. This goes in the guilty column, imo. 7. He left the party at 4:00-4:30 to get ice. Partygoers didn’t understand why as apparently, they didn’t need any. This could have been to dump the credit cards at a gas station? 8. Snow had melted and it was muddy out, but there was no mud in the house. Did the burglars politely remove their shoes?
@sarahs2288 best comment here. Afa the bag with the shell casings, perhaps he gathered them up in a hurry and with everything else going on, he simply forgot about them. He prob left them in the center of his basement to remind himself to grab them before he left, but the cops found them first. A couple of add'l things, the bath was dry and he seemed to have planned this. So I would imagine he knew his kids would need to see him in the same outfit. Therefore, he prob changed to kill her then changed back in the same clothes so his kids wouldn't know. Too bad a shoddy investigation got this murderer off.
This happened in my home town. Mrs. Foley was in the school when I was there. She was the funnest lady to be around. Everyone wanted to hang out with her. I recently had something come up while researching another true crime. I don't think this had enough coverage and I truly hope that interest can increase and get this case looked at again. He either hired someone (that person in the white car) or he borrowed another vehicle between that 20 minute drive. Tom Foley did this and got away with it. Dar was an amazing woman and she was taken.
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One of the greatest things about your narration is that you don’t get personally outraged as most podcasters do. Your unbiased rendering of the crime is so engaging & appreciated!
Thank YOU. Preciate your compliment.
And he speaks normally not with a creepy annoying voice.
Fire in shotgun at church camp. Only in America.😂
I can't stand it when creators act out on their emotions. Just give us the facts
@laurieowens8510 Your post is eloquently stated. Totally agree with you.
Bar none, the BEST crime channel on UA-cam.... You're the most centered, balanced and grounded channel I"ve found. Thank you much!
Try Truly Criminal too, she is amazing. Very respectful.
He is very good .. but not the best in my opinion. Always happy when he uploads tho 😊
Appreciate the kind words! Glad you’re enjoying the channel 🙂
So many better ones
Monsters
Disturban
Mr Black to name a few
We will agree to disagree. However like most of the best content producers in this niche, he's got a trait most share. He seems to be very good at coming off totally non biased, like an old school news reporter
My worst nightmare is seeing my husband like that, calling 911 and then having experienced detectives point their arrows at me while I’m grieving. I can’t think of a worse mental torture.
Yes, I don't think it's right that they questioned him so soon after seeing his wife with her head half blown off. I know they needed to question him, but it seemed rather callous of them to at least not put it off for 24 hours or so. But then again if he were in fact the killer, he could have probably tried to skip town/leave the country.
Suspicious that you say that
That's your worst nightmare?! 🤔
@@loveforeignaccentshe should've asked for an attorney!
@@DocProcRealm Of course, but when one is so traumatized, I don't think they usually have on their thinking cap.
It frustrates me when police just go for one suspect and try to build a case around that person.
They look for evidence, and at evidence, and then focus on a particular suspect or suspects. There was circumstantial evidence pointing to the husband, and for me he remains the person who most likely killed her. First, Darlene wasn't the victim of a random crime: Somebody doesn't just pull up to a rural farmhouse in the middle of the day and shoot one of the occupants. That almost never happens. Somebody had to have had a motive to killer her--and so who? Other than the husband, the only other possibility, apparently, was her brother--and while he had some problems, brothers don't have kill their sisters. I put very little weight in the supposed eyewitnesses who supposedly saw a white car at the farmhouse and speeding away. It's been proven many times that eyewitnesses often make mistakes and are not often reliable.
Yeah, as I heard all the evidence I kept thinking (I assumed a twist was coming) that it seemed like the husband was either obviously guilty or he just had the worst luck possible- turns out the latter was the case.
I did feel like his emotions were too sincere to be the guilty party though. For the most part you can tell from the 911 call often times. There are always exceptions though.
Nothing was definitely linking the husband! Too circumstantial for me! He never changed his clothes… unknown dna on gloves, etc nothing linked him in this case!!
Bags are common and why would he leave that a bright yellow bag could be grabbed by anyone from the house.
Likely murder weapon makes no sense…,none of stolen property found or weapon. Needed z definite link and there wasn’t one and children changed their story of the sound after being around others. People react differently when one loses a loved one or becomes lonely!!
The meth head brother, abusive parents of her students, and the credit card fraud weren't looked into?! Police incompetence.
LAZY POLICE
Yes police tunnel vision.
Incompetent.
The credit-card angle is nonsense. It's a huge leap for someone to go from fraudulently use a credit card number to murder---and what would the motive be? There wouldn't be a motive. Police didn't follow up with that lead because it was, and remains, far-fetched and weak. Didn't happen. I also doubt the eyewitnesses who claim to have seen a white car speeding away from the crime scene. Eyewitnesses often claim to have seen things that they didn't really see---or they just get details wrong. Eyewitnesses are well known to be unreliable. The only person other than the husband who could have killed her was, it would seem, her brother--and I don't think he did it. The person who most likely killed her remains the husband.
Also the glove with dna from another person
Love your videos. Very professional. As a lawyer, I would caution anyone whose spouse is killed or harmed to seek legal counsel before talking to the police. The idea that you don't need counsel if you're innocent is naive in this day and age.
You need counsel ESPECIALLY if you’re innocent. Never talk to police without an attorney. Ever
Truth. (And then the cops will say you lawyered up because you’re guilty😂😂)
Murderers are convicted on the basis of evidence collected - some of it circumstantial . They are NOT convicted on the basis of
anything said in a Police interview ! Especially when the interview is filmed. ! It's irrelevant whether a lawyer is present or not .!
Can you give any examples of people convicted solely on the grounds of something said during a police interview without a lawyer . ?? Doesn't happen.
@@2msvalkyrie529 I don’t think it’s anything specific what a person might say. It’s that the police aren’t your friend. They will twist and turn everything to suit whatever ends they want. They’re allowed to lie, we’re not. That alone should be enough. Guilty? Get a lawyer. Innocent? Even more reason to get a lawyer.
And the police never checked the gas station cctv where the paperwork and CC were found? Great work!
the credit card usage was not followed up as well...shoddy and very lax police work...they just focused on one suspect!! RIP Darlene, hope your killer is caught by the cold case team!
@@adambane1719 thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼 Om (or Aum) is a symbol representing a sacred sound, syllable, mantra, and an invocation in Hinduism. It is the most important Hindu symbols 🕉️ 🙏🏼
I truly believe the killer was caught and released - Tom Foley
@@krissypeters1517 I agree. That fake crying during interrogation was very bad acting. He even attempted coughing at one point while fake-crying! Who coughs when they cry? Only bad actors in b-movies who also have trouble crying.
Maybe he was the killer and got away with it
Not near enough evidence , bumbling detectives. They cant check the body temp like EVERY crime lab in the country for decades to see if she was killed earlier?
The amount of reasonable doubt in this case was insane.
Yeah only heard at the second trial. I didn't think they could find him guilty with all those new findings. Hope they were right.
@@SpicyTexan64 Missing Glass was too much for me to get over. The Dry Shower is a complete Dead Give Away, something is not adding up. I think he may have "Arranged" this. I do think he smashed the back glass door. Very troubling.
Thank God I wasn't in the jury, I still have no idea if he really did this.
@@mariaharrison7228same
The second woman who said they exchanged a hug ?? ROMANTIC ENCOUNTER ? Shame on her and the prosecution for even bringing her to testify !!
It was significant. I think the prosecutor probably had a better idea than you of where he was going with this.
@@kelrogers8480 ok..Perry Mason !! LOL
Lol exchanged hugs, I was going to say “very passionate and hot”
Oh the timeless embrace 😂
@@kelrogers8480lol sure, define significant… 🤦🏽♀️
@@lob1248 Google has an online dictionary, look it up! 🦃
I wish someone had pursued the credit card fraud, beyond speaking to an "unhelpful woman." Perhaps her boyfriend killed Darlene.
One thing I do know. The sound of a pain of glass breaking does not hurt your ears from a distance.
Well, it obviously was in fact a shotgun blast, as half her face was blown off.
EDIT: Also, *pane of glass.
@@loveforeignaccentsNot just her face: ("half her head was blown off")
@@houseofsolomon2440 I stand corrected.
Nor a gun from that distance! Those kids were coached for the second trial!
Though he did say his ears are extra sensitive. Unless you have his ears and heard that exact sound on that day you will never know. He did say glass at the start and that was unbiased in my view. Being with the mothers family for years and speaking again he had a slightly different account. It’s called manipulation.
I love this channel. Your voice is so soothing and the calm way you deliver the story is just relaxing and wonderful to listen to. The research is always done well, stories well put together, the set you use, the cats...all just goes together for a wonderful, relaxing time. Thank you.
Watching in U.K at 01.30am, can’t sleep, Kevin’s voice is soothing & love the channel too due to all the reasons you’ve given.
Your* voice
@@stfuplsok I hate it when my phone does that to me. I should have checked it.
Your videos are really amongst the best I’ve seen and I watch a large number of them! No nonsense, straight to the point, no tangential bs, just really solid reporting! Can’t thank you enough! So tired of the way all the other channels seem to think we’re interested in the country it happened in, the storyteller’s personal life, etc! Very well done!!
First time I've heard well paying job, and 2nd grade teacher in the same sentence.
Things were a lot cheaper in 2009. My dad bought a house 3 bed room in 1991 for $81,000 making only $15hr. It wasn't in a rural area where homes are cheaper, it was right in the capital of the state, 3 miles from downtown. He worked as a teacher's assistant and did bus duty.
He might be a private school teacher!
Or have another job on the side
@@777Maranatha He stayed home and cared for the son and fixed up the house. The wife was the second grade teacher.
😂😂
Another great video, Kevin. I live about 45 mins from Coldwater and don’t recall this case but I am glad he had a retrial because the amount of circumstantial evidence was overwhelming. Had I sat on that jury, there is no way I would’ve voted guilty. It’s a shame the police squandered leads and have allowed the case to go cold post acquittal. She deserves justice and so does Tom.
I was about to change the video until I finished this comment. The fact that I saw “acquittal” is what kept me around because I was getting frustrated. I’m not even halfway through! The “investigators” are pathetic.
Another superb unpacking of a case that "really makes you think"... alongside 'This is Monsters', you are the most thorough & well presented true crime channel I am aware of!
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Completely incompetent investigation by the police officers on this one
I'm usually on the cops side but too many cases where the detectives get tunnel vision and fail to consider other suspects. Tom was very lucky here!
Does still surprise anyone?
Isn't that typical ?
I am excited! You have a great way to narrate these stories. Thanks Kevin!
It’s the fraudulent credit card thing for me . They should have looked into that avenue further . And meanwhile this innocent man sat in jail for 2 years while his son was brainwashed by the family 🤦♀️ these cases although not surprising, are always sad . Police get tunnel vision & don’t explore other options in so many cases .
Maybe the husband left them somewhere knowing a thief would find them? Why did the witnesses come forward after the 1st trial?
Especially in the small towns.
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Agree, I think they refer to it as confirmation bias - they already decide whose guilty without pursuing all the evidence,
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Not likely the husband would rely on a criminal not only finding but using his financial details to fraudulently acquire credit cards to create the husbands own alibi, is it?
Hey Kevin , appreciate your voice narration and coverage of these mean tragic cases✨🍄🌻
Thanks!
Wait a minute! Are you telling me that once the police had a suspect in custody and charged, they ignored evidence, which could have jeopardize their case? The police wouldn’t do that... right? 🙄
You're reminding me of that guy from the Goodfellas movie who said everything twice 😋😋
Before you even mentioned the additional evidence that the police didn't investigate, I was like: I'm not sure he did this. I feel like they went straight to him, and didn't pursue anyone else, and the fact that they haven't done any more investigating proves how close minded they are, and is very frustrating! Her brother is extremely suspicious, and it makes me wonder who he knows on the police force. 🤷🏼♀️
Same, i was like this is not enough evidence
Your ability to untangle complicated stories is incredible! Good job 👍
Cheers 🙂
That kids ears ringing had too be close to gun firing only way no way being across yard would that ear ringing happen
Yeah... I'm not at ALL buying that he had nothing to do with it and I'm also not buying the neighbor's stories. Maybe they were paid off or something? Why would anyone withhold that info for so long in the first place? Bc she's "afraid"... Of what?!?!
@@AlaryicjudeSometimes people don't want to get involved in this kind of situations, maybe afraid that the killer will come after her...?
I love the way you tell the stories. Thank you for all your hard work.
AS it turned out, the case was bigger than the prosecutor. She should have been tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail for allowing the case to go silent once he was acquitted.
Her job is to lie and set-up suspects, not to investigate anything!
Kevin! I get so excited when I get a new video notification! You are my favorite channel! Your reporting is clear and very informative thank you!!!
quickly becoming one of my favorite TC channels
there are only 4 or 5 channels that i look forward to and this is one of them now
keep up the great work!
Using lil kids should be banned in court. They're easily manipulated and live in a fantasy world. My 7 year old saw me cleaning my gun, called the police. Not until the police talked him into what type of gun, it became a machine-gun. (First time he saw a gun and it scared him). Police came and saw my 357 cleaned and in a holster. See how kids interpret their world around them, especially with the help of others?
Why would he call police on you? That's really concerning, who taught him that's the first course of action for not a crime?
Crazy second grade teachers who go to state school teach them that 100
I agree. Kids say silly things and end up believing their own stories. Thats just how their minds work. Some people never grow out of it. Like my dad. He kept inventing stories till he died. His words could never be trusted. And worst of all, he believed his own babble.
Kids stories don't belong in court.
A family being able to survive off one teacher’s salary??! Wow how things have changed!
I thought that as well
I think you missed a bit of the story.
Up north
Right!? When he said "she had a high paying job as a grade school teacher" I laughed! Maybe at a posh private school? Sad story!
My mom is currently a 2nd grade teacher and she makes over 90k a year. She’s been teaching for over 15 years.
I hate when police do this. They zoom in on the "more than likely" person and choose not to investigate any further.
It's called confirmation bias
Thats how they work. No need to waste time with extra research in all kinds of directions if you have enough material for a trial and conviction.
That is 99%+ of all convicts are innocent.
@@DeNuevo They truly are... and misunderstood.
Remember they are trained more than us therefore most times, they know why.
That brother losing his gun conveniently and then not reporting it sounds so off..and in spite of that they arrested the husband ? 🤦🏽♀️
Not really.
If you report anything to the pigs they will use it to set you up.
Clear,concise and thorough. My new fave true crime channel!
This poor guy, hopefully they find justice. I couldn't imagine my kids thinking I did something like that.
Unless you actually did that ish!
Wow! So many potential suspects and potential motives! Thanks for presenting this case Kevin! ❤️🙏✌🏻
No such thing.
They have such a low bar for what they consider a motive for murder.
Especially when virtually all murders are committed without much motive and are simply over-reactions to unfolding situations.
Thank you for your channel and content. So well researched and delivered!
Love your channel, Kevin!
Thank you very much!
That was a very interesting case. Absolute reasonable doubt in Tom's guilt. Don't know whether he did it or not but I think the jury came to the correct conclusion.
there is not much of evidences against him so I am not convince at all that he did it no real prove what so ever
Idk, there’s just TOO many coincidences. Like him telling the boys to go outside and play BEFORE going to get ready for the party. The boys hearing a loud sound while playing outside. I get that the police didn’t directly ask him about the loud sound before trial, but most often (than not) they’d usually ask a suspect about what they did in a day. I would think that’s a pretty significant thing to just forget during the course of multiple police interviews.
True and his fingerprints allegedly being on the bag in the basement
The second jury I hope you mean.
@@deevasquez1171 Except that, if the bag was originally from his home (like the stolen paperwork, etc.), why would it NOT have his fingerprints on it? Did they ever identify a DNA match for that glove found at the scene (they had stated that the DNA on it matched neither Tom nor Darlene).
I have never seen anyone cover this case here on UA-cam! I have seen the Dateline episode . Excited to listen! 😊
Excellent story Kevin. I do hope some day there will be justice for Darlene (and Tom).
Great pity the folks that saw vehicles didn't come forward sooner. I think I will be re-watching this video later! Thank you ❤
Wow lots of twists and turns. I like how you don’t give away the outcome until the end and that makes it most interesting. Thanks you’re my favorite crime channel.
Pressing these young boys to define a sound they heard from a distance and putting words in their mouths by offering specific suggestions should've made their statements about it inadmissible. If the information told here is all there was this matter should not even have gone to court. They had nothing. The jury needs to be reminded they are not required to convict anyone. They are well within their rights and responsibility to return a verdict that nothing was proven. Sometimes I wonder if there are 12 people anywhere who could be assembled as a qualified jury.
Yes they first said they heard glass smash and were pressed and pressed and then led by her family to wind up saying a shotgun!! Poor boys
Objectivity these days is dangerously, dangerously lacking.
We always tell our kids...its time to go outside for a while. You've been on the computer all day
😂🤣 That sketch doe!!! Lookin like a homeless anime character!!!
in his late 60s 😂😂😂😂
Methead
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He has a type his new wife looks like he's old wife.
Telling the kids to go outside for 20 min is very suspicious too
My parents told me to go outside all the time when I was young. Maybe he shagged her then.
I think he did it, but telling two boys to go outside..?
I don't find that significant at all.
maybe they were getting on his nerves.
He was working on the house, fitting glass, sounds correct to me
No it's not. When you live in the country, you're parents tell you to go outside and play all the time. It's a daily occurrence. My parents told my brother and I that all the time so they could get stuff done without us running around the house.
@@QueenofMarine disagree.
This case has always interested me. You added some extra info I was not aware of. Thanks Kevin! Excellent job! 👍
Love this channel! I love how you tell the facts without your biased opinion added to it. I'm ok with those that do, but honestly it's rare these days and it's refreshing to hear! ❤
Good evening, Kevin! I got it right this time. 😊 Love from Colorado. Now, off to watch another awesome video.
Thanks for being here Theresa 🙂
Colo springs 🎶😢💔💔🙏
A larger town with a medical examiner would’ve tested the body temperature to identify the exact time of death.
Couldn't a coroner do that as well? I mean someone has to be able to determine such, especially in a homicide case.
I wonder why those witnesses didn’t come forward earlier. Thankfully they came forward eventually. Definitely reasonable doubt in regards to his guilt. The credit cards, finding different DNA at the scene. Seems like shoddy police work from the outset. Great presentation as always. Rest easy Dar. I hope your killer is found ❤🇦🇺
Well, Jeanette said she was scared, and I believe was having mental health issues at the time if I'm now recalling correctly; don't know about the other two witnesses.
Police didn’t canvass the area either and some seeing the evidence thought he wouldn’t be convicted on such slim circumstantial evidence!!
Very well done Kevin. This was new to me as a crime story and was told in such a precise, detailed calm manner. Thank you for sharing. It is for these reasons that this channel is so successful. Many thanks.
This is really an interesting case, and I do think follow-ups should have occurred before they completely fingered Tom. Too many cars, sardines by neighbors that were never brought up in court so far as any follow-through by the police. The police were the problem in this case, due to the lack of investigation..
I think it was a good idea that the witnesses did not bring up sardines to the court. They stink and I think the judge would have had a problem with that! 🐟🐟🐟🤣
😂😂😂😂 I don't think you meant sardines, but I can't figure out what you might have meant,., Dang autocorrect!
@@astrialindah2773 Maybe "red herrings" instead of sardines lol
What is a sardine in an investigation I've never heard that before
No he’s right, their was definitely way too many sardines to court
What are these "legal grounds" that caused Tom to not collect any monies that he was rightfully owed because of a wrongful conviction? Poor man. Poor son. What a bunch of lazy incompetent law enforcement people from the police all the way up to the prosecuting attorneys/officials. It's easy to blame the husband right off the bat....end of story...our work here is done. Shameful
My thoughts exactly.
It 100% PROVES that the judges KNOW they are setting up innocent men.
Anyone who believed in what they were doing would stand behind their decisions.
Thanks Kevin.
Great upload as always!...
I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to have found a loved one murdered only to find that you are the ONLY suspect!?...
The manipulation of his own son is a crime in itself...and as soon as you said the brother had a shotgun... unreported to have been stolen?.... mmmm...???
An all round shit show from the word go...and a refusal by the cops to even question neighbours or look at other suspects?
A terrible and so tragic a story.... blessings to all those affected by the loss of Darlene....❤
Totally agree. And forgot to mention I was saddened to learn his lawsuit was dismissed for being wrongly incarcerated for two years. That's two years of his life lost... birthdays, holidays, etc. Certainly he should have been entitled to that money in my opinion.
@@loveforeignaccents All part of the systems refusal to accept his innocence... I.m.o.
I totally agree...🥰
Cops are great... Yes, it is the husband in most cases so they said - "F the investigation, let's indict the husband and have few beers. Work? Police work? Work is for suckers." The only thing missing in this case is the psychic saying - "it was the butler.. hmm... no butler you say? the husband then!"
Well said
You gave me a chuckle, but I do have to agree with you!
Direct evidence wasn’t even close to convict him! Nothing even the timeline!
And in most cases, it is the husband. This is well known. Or the wife. Especially when on a muddy day, no muddy shoe prints were found on the floor! So naturally the suspicion falls on the husband.
Do you think the killer brought a towel to wipe down the soles of his shoes before entering through the broken window?
No, it is NEVER the husband.
The pigs always set the husband of boyfriend up.
WE have ZERO proven cases in hundreds of years of having courts and judges.
They just get to decide what they want to have happened, because they have no way to investigate what actually hapapned, we as a society do not develop factual tools for investigating, we instead use prosecution tactics to set men up.
You might be one of the first to cover this. I never forgot this one. For some reason it stuck in my mind.
That first jury was incompetent. Prosecutors 'evidence' was horribly lacking. There is no way I would have convicted him even the first time. I'm very happy this poor man was let loose.
'Exacerbated' her anxieties, not 'exasperated'. Love your channel, Kevin!
So the small boy whose mother's head was blown off with a shotgun, whose father was in prison for shooting her, is taken on a church outing where they get to shoot off shotguns that brings back the memory of the day his mother died. That's therapy for you.
Awesome channel, I’ve watched a video every night before bed and I’ve only a couple videos left. Thank you for all the effort you put in to each video for us ❤
It would take a horrible Dad to kill a child’s Mother on his Birthday.
Discovered your channel this weekend. I've been binge watching all weekend. I really like the way you present the cases. Great channel!
Thank you Kevin ! Love everything about your channel! God Bless you and your family! Fr.Canada.
I dunno. What I do know is most times these detectives have tunnel vision when they have one suspect in sight. This causes them to ignore everything and everyone else.
In reality there is no way to investigate what actually happens, at the very best an eye-witness can testify, but the fact is that eye witness testimony is disproven more often than it holds up, so it is better to stop interfering and just let people be.
Kevin, thanks for another great video.
I dont think the husband was guilty at all and thankfully the 2nd jury felt the same. With all the ppl coming forward for the 2nd trial, it seems they really rushed to prosecute him originally. And once again, as in SO many cases, there was a ton of reasonable doubt and yet the first jury found him guilty. That is so scary. Just his reaction when they first interviewed him. I mean, I know there are some good actors out there but to me he seemed truly crushed. My heart goes out to Darlene, her family and friends. I hope they find out who really did this to her because its my opinion that there is a murderer walking the streets.
The trail of the stolen crredi cards should have been pursued. But the police was too.lazy to act after framing a potentially innocent man. That's as bad as the crime itself.
Agree with all you say and I don’t think any actor in the world could be that good. That was real pain and you could see it and feel it. Detectives prosecutors don’t like to be wrong. They go hunting in wrong directions often. It happens more than most would know. If your defence is weak you are in strife even if you are innocent.
One of the saddest parts of this story is of the son, Heath Foley…. How, over time, he remembered things differently, possibly coerced by family members while his dad was the only suspect for killing his mom…. It seemed like the glass pane incident evolved into a gun shot memory, pinning his dad on the crime? So sad.
Praying that Heath and Tom’s relationship was fully mended and their hearts are healed from this entire, multilevel, life-shattering tragedy.
your heart never "mends" when you lose your mother as a child.
especially when she's killed by someone and justice is never served.
I know this first hand.
Excellent video. So glad I found this channel
This was very interesting and done well. Thank you JTL
Fascinating story, masterfully told. Thank you!
It's hard to carry such large items like a TV
Thank you Kevin for another great upload! Very intriguing case and I do believe that Tom is not guilty.
Kids firing shotguns at church camp?!? Doesn't sound kosher to me.
Depends on where you're from I guess. I live in a rural Minnesota area and the local public schools have skeet shooting as an extracurricular activity.
One of the best crime channels.. new subbie!
Happens all the time! DA decides who’s guilty and goes after them!!! All the prosecutors investigators should do prison time themselves!
I came across your channel today, (thanks to the UA-cam Faeries,) and enjoyed your approach to these cases and the non-sensationalist, approach throughout the programme. I have subscribed and look forward to watching more of your content going forward. Cheers, Kevin, all the way from Australia! 😊🦘
Police procedure in cases like this is to visit and speak to as many neighbours as possible as many people are afraid of coming forward. That they failed to do this in this instance shows sloppy and lazy attitudes to their work, compounded by a prosecution equally incompetent. However, if we can judge by the hundreds of cases now available for scrutiny such attitudes are relatively rare and I am struck by how thorough most police forces are in their search for the truth.
It is quite a pleasure to hear your videos. You have such a nice voice! Thank you
Living a few miles from Coldwater I often wonder if this case is the reason for the Justice for DeDe signs that are posted along US-12.
Certainly sounds like it!
This case, as all unsolved cases, is so frustrating.
*"A well paying job as a 2nd grade teacher."* wow.
Not sure what to make of this. Him having little to no blood spatter on him and no evidence of changing his clothes makes me inclined to believe his innocence.
They had the shower curtain to block the spatter?
And no gun powder either@@maryevelyn3059
Wow, never been this early. Now lets watch Kev give us the story straight.
Enjoy! 👍🏻
I enjoy how this story teller brings all the facts in. Thank you
I really enjoy your videos. You focus on the facts and do so impartially. Also, I appreciate being spared ( less time ) on the 911 calls and description on the crime scene (photos etc.) as it can be disturbing to mental health. I appreciate more the detective process, the mystery, trial etc.. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
Prayers for the families and the victims
One of the best true crime channels. Despite my fill of the genre duevto proliferation the narration style grew on me quite fast.
Man, I'm So glad the poor guy got out within a few years rather than decades. What a terrible miscarriage of justice, and a showcase of justice system tunnel-vision/corruption. Some other innocent victims of the justice system never escape a railroad like this.
Thanx for good, clear, distinct narration. Happy I found this channel!!!
The whiny wailing 911 call by a grown men always gives them away.
Yup
Like that cop dude that said he found his wife dead in the bath from suicide
Hi
I really like your channel. You are genuine and it translates. You state facts and don’t sensationalize!!! Keep up the amazing work
Hey Kevin glad to see another great new video. This one definitely hasn't been covered by anyone well done. By the way you need to get some merch up on your site!!! Candle Chef
I know! Definitely want to look at getting some merch out there...even just so I can take advantage of the free samples 😀
Your personality ,calmness , u animated recital is like warn Carmel echlaire on a rainy day
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😂😂 that defense attorney tho…. “It was almost impossible for him to have done it” 😅😅😅
Lack of conviction can lead to conviction. That’s all I’m gonna say.
If your spouse is murdered: 1) NEVER talk to the Cops. 2) Get a lawyer ASAP. There are MANY innocent people in prison today who were wrongly convicted of murdering their spouse.
Exactly! I would never, ever talk to the Police without a lawyer!
Never talk to police in this situation.
And there are 10 times as many that are guilty that are in the free world. That obviously is in no way is an appropriate comparison!!!!
It is very sad to think of the idea of being imprisoned after losing a loved one. It’s so crazy
@@donnakreye8339 Not a fair comparison ??? They used to teach in Law Schools that it's better to set 100 guilty people free than to put one innocent person in prison. People apparently don't feel that way any more. That's because our System is actually on Revenge, rather than on true Justice.
@@joekulik999How is that working out in Commiefornia nowadays?
If you were missing your spouse and the last place you saw them was in the house... Wouldn't you call the house first??? Or at least call the house???
Yeah, that was, quite frankly, the only thing I found odd about his behavior/way of trying to track her down.
Men don't think clearly. My husband would prob do that if I didn't have a cellphone. Shit he don't worry for me after couple hrs that I should of been home. Not that he doesn't care. He knows I can take care of myself and just isn't that type of person. If I ever went missing or God forbid anything else he'd be so suspect for NO reason.
Well If someone is running an hour late and picking up 3 boys ten minutes apart, maybe you would believe he would be at least at the 2nd house? You wouldn’t think she would be still at home an hour after ? Well I wouldn’t and without mobiles in those days, I would ring to see which boys have been picked up. Common sense
I remember this case from a long time ago. I have no idea if he’s guilty, but a few things stand out:
1. Why did he tell the kids to go play in the barn when they were playing video games inside before the party? That’s seems kind of odd.
2. Does the sound of glass breaking make your ears ring? Does it carry that far? I don’t think it does?
3. Why would alleged assailants in a white sedan choose this farm? Why a shotgun? Why kill the homeowner? Why no defense wounds on Dar?
4. The credit card use in another location is exculpatory, but what if he dumped that stuff somewhere and it was found by a random scumbag?
5. Also exculpatory: There’s no way he would leave those shell casings in his own basement, in a bag with his prints, while getting rid of jewelry, paperwork, and credit cards.
6. After Dar didn’t show for the birthday party at 5:00, Tom went straight home to check on her. Phone records show he never called. This goes in the guilty column, imo.
7. He left the party at 4:00-4:30 to get ice. Partygoers didn’t understand why as apparently, they didn’t need any. This could have been to dump the credit cards at a gas station?
8. Snow had melted and it was muddy out, but there was no mud in the house. Did the burglars politely remove their shoes?
Love your comment as it contains all my own thoughts!
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@sarahs2288 best comment here. Afa the bag with the shell casings, perhaps he gathered them up in a hurry and with everything else going on, he simply forgot about them. He prob left them in the center of his basement to remind himself to grab them before he left, but the cops found them first. A couple of add'l things, the bath was dry and he seemed to have planned this. So I would imagine he knew his kids would need to see him in the same outfit. Therefore, he prob changed to kill her then changed back in the same clothes so his kids wouldn't know. Too bad a shoddy investigation got this murderer off.
This happened in my home town. Mrs. Foley was in the school when I was there. She was the funnest lady to be around. Everyone wanted to hang out with her. I recently had something come up while researching another true crime. I don't think this had enough coverage and I truly hope that interest can increase and get this case looked at again. He either hired someone (that person in the white car) or he borrowed another vehicle between that 20 minute drive. Tom Foley did this and got away with it. Dar was an amazing woman and she was taken.
Bless him and his son❤ so very sorry you and your son had to go through this trauma ❤
Thanks, and you have a great voice!