This has to be one of the strangest 911 calls anyone would make as Christopher casually tells a short story about his plans with her and then finally states she is probably dead.
How is that strange but its not strange for the police to immediately blame innocent people? I would be giving my alibi on the phone too. Police blame a lot of innocent people. Something tells me you never watched a murder documentary, they almost always start blaming the innocent first until they find the perpetrator
You're absolutely wrong. Imagine now, you walked into your house and a family member is dead, stuffed into a closet (clearly murdered). Would you just say "my family member is dead." And nothing further? Naturally you'll want to say what happened. And where is his alibi? To me it sounds like the dispatcher was asking the questions, what exactly is his alibi? Everyone reacts differently and making a blanket statement as if you're always supposed to act a certain way or you're suspicious is absurd, I'm glad you're not the investigator. If I went to the gym and came back and my girlfriend was murdered, it would be one of the first things I'd mention. And the dispatcher without a doubt would ask what happened and I'd say "I don't know I just got back from the gym". Really tho, imagine thinking everyone acts the same. I'm genuinely curious, what is the alibi he LEAD with? He just said he was expecting her, not an alibi.
Not everybody handles death the same, and I'm speaking from experience. My mother passed some years ago, and I couldn't cry or anything. It wasn't until maybe 6 months later that I let out a whale of emotions, and I felt pain.
You can imagine but at least 50% of people are emotionless for up to 24 hrs bc of shock, some more... ive seen it many times. Talk to people who work around death all the time and they'll all tell you that you should not be guessing about guilt based on how someone acts bc shock makes people weirdly like "professional"
@@iamthejpshowsame i just posted from experience. I've been in shock from loved ones sudden tragic death or sudden near death and i was very emotionless... after about 24 hrs the crying and screaming and shaking started, and I've cried everyday since and was in no way responsible... wasn't even murder. I have bad ptsd and i wonder if the people who didn't go into shock and processes immediately dont have ptsd or still do or a mix. I can't imagine losing someone, being in shock, and accused of their murder. These shows scare me. I hope I'm never accused bc accusation equals guilty in this country bc of peoples uninformed hot takes, sad and terrifying
Also, never leave your patio door open/unlocked or window(s) open/unlocked. Always pay attention to your surroundings. This all goes for literally everyone ❤
Kevin I have been following you for some time and cannot believe that you are not a 2 million plus channel! Your delivery and attention to detail is outstanding. Keep up the great work and hoping for great success in the coming years.
the perfect murder literally fell into his lap. From the computer being given, to the phone number being scribbled on a piece of paper , to the follow up phone call. It all played beautifully and synchronistically for Chris Johnson
I’m only at 5:45 but Sir, the second you find your alleged true love dead in your wardrobe and AREN’T incoherent or begging for an ambulance, you killed her. End of.
damn...I am glad you wrote this cause I was just thinking...at least this guy didn't act like a fool with the raging screaming and fake crying...I was real close to giving him a pass.....damn
@@sauce1232. It’s actually not at all unlikely to hear fake hysterical crying or the alibi being given before giving the address to the house. Just listen the callers. All normal investigations are done but there is often a correlation. ✌🏽
I thought I knew this case so, I was listening while cooking, and cleaning, got all the way to the conversation with her son (20 yrs down the line) and realized I was hearing a lot of new information! I had to go all the way back to 14 minutes and pay close attention! Thank You Kevin, once again JTL has given me much to think about!
@@BrookeClyde same! I always watch what Kevin creates because, he always, without fail, give me food for thought! A lot of times we form opinions on cases and Kevin makes me see things differently! I live JTL!
He was unbelievably calm in the 911call. It so odd that he's asking for a police officer instead of an ambulance. He seems very sure that theres no life needs to be revive.
Well, if you've been home for nearly seven hours, didn't see or hear your SO come in during that time, and that person is cold to the touch upon spotting them, then, yes, chances are that person cannot be revived.
Thank you Kevin. What I love most about the cases you cover is the ambiguity as to who the perpetrator actually is. This allows for speculation, debate, analysis, and interpretation of the evidence provided. It's thought provoking.
Talking about “I’m *kin* to Bobby“ and also him not pressing on being paid right away by politely saying “if you could help us that would be *excellent*” Like com’on sir we know you’re the police, you ain’t fooling nobody 😂😂
Where’s my watch…..err it’s where you left it…….I left it here…..so I go look at “here”….lo and behold, there is the watch……aww sorry babe…..I’m thinking hospice care…….
@@uhuhuh1966 This other guy, who had nothing to lose, claimed to have been asked by Chris to do it for 5k. It's all there in the video. But jury didn't accept his testimony. I sure would have.
I I'm undecided about this one. It would be quite bold for the accused to hire a hitman, promise $5,000, and then not follow through. The hitman mentioned that the accused claimed to be an engineer, but that alone doesn't prove guilt. That information exchange could have taken place when they spoke about the computer.
My grandmother was 17 years older than her husband, my grandfather . We never had any idea, no one did. Sadly he preceded her in death, she lived to be 102.
My mother was telling me about watching a transformer explode while she was driving. She was on Walton, near Heathrow, and took a big gulp of her coffee. It was lukewarm, but the peppermint creamer sometimes fools her. Anyway, she took the drink… gulp, really, and then two other sedans passed her. She wasn’t at the place where the speed limit goes up though. Why don’t the police do something about speeders there? Anyway, sorry, I was drinking my coffee… MOM! She’s been well evaluated for dementia. She’s just this way. So, it could be indicative of guilt or literally nothing.
I very much appreciate your attention to detail and thoughtful delivery. With so many low quality true crime channels popping up, the real deal is the go-to. Thank you for your thinkers. 👏
YES! I love these crime channels but the generic AI so many are using is awful! I refuse to subscribe to any using it. This and Darklivity are my faves for the human interaction. 😅💙🇺🇸
Thank you, Kevin, for your thoughtful response and presentation of this case. You are my favourite Chanel because of the calm, unbiased way you deliver information. No drama, just facts!
No he doesn't. I can understand being in shock after the death of a loved one, but Chris acted as if he didn't really care. He never acted like a bereaved partner, not once. Disturbing.
I've seen a few different channels cover this case. Yes, his reactions were concerning to me, also. My impression of Chris was, and is, that he is on the autism spectrum, likely Aspergers, and that blunts his emotional range of expression. I am a bit surprised that didn't show up as a possible factor here in Kevin's coverage of this long saga.
There are so many weird things here. You'd think that someone who hires a convict to murder someone and then STIFFS the guy his 5000 dollars would think "Gee, this person will come back and kill me if I don't pay him since he knows where I live" ... right??
Thank you Kevin. Can't believe Ive never heard of this case before. RIP Andrea Cincotta~ Your channel is top notch, well presented & high quality! p.s. your "background" gets better & better
Howdy, Kevin! Just cruising through to say hello and thank you for your sure-to-be-amazing upload. Your videos are top-notch! Now to go watch it! Thanks again! ❤❤❤
@19:47 it still wild to me that SCOTUS said it is legal for police to lie to suspects, but you can be charged with lying to the police. A clear double standard in the law like that should be addressed.
Police and suspects are two different things with differing intents, how is this puzzling? One is to solve crime, the other is to evade it, if involved in a crime which would you need/prefer?
@@hardwired8084our justice system was set up to favor suspects, not give police massive leeway. Amendments 4 to 8 are solely to tie government’s hands. What you should worry about is how often those lies end up implicating innocent people. I don’t know about Chris, although the confession is false if he hired someone else to do it, but there are literally hundreds of confessions that have since been proven false just in the US. The real question is, do you want people convicted of crimes or perpetrators to be convicted of their crimes?
It's not that clear. It is illegal to lie to the FBI but actual police or sheriff's deputies it's not a straight crime. The circumstances dictate the legality. Like giving a fake name on a traffic stop is a crime.
Bobby's confession details clearly covered ALOT of what the evidence at the scene showed. There were so many things he could not have known unless he was there
No, he was in the apartment before, how do you know the woman killed didn’t mention that her husband was an engineer? He knew the layout of the apartment, he also could have read newspaper reports, he just wanted a better prison.
Yep. The root beer, very specific, the broken clutch and location of car breakdown, that Andrea was wet, the strangulation.... Way too specific for anybody to just guess.
Shoe print on her body was an exact match to his sneakers. Did he offer an explanation? It's 1 solid piece of evidence, but not explained in this video, how this was handled by police & prosecution at the trial.
@@loveforeignaccents Exactly. He put that shoe print on her wet dead body while moving her from the position Bobby Joe had left her. Plus Chris admitted to police that he had cleaned up the house when he got home during his initial interrogation. Now we know why it took Chris six hours to "discover" her body after he got home from work--because he was cleaning up after Bobby Joe!!!!!
This is a man working 2 jobs. Subjected to police interrogation for 20 odd hour. Then the police lie to him, and like any good citizen thinks, well this must be true, police don't lie. At that moment he begins to doubt his own sanity. Manipulation plain and simple. coerced confession. Even if he is guilty, the police misconduct fouls the case. There is reasonable doubt all over this thing. I don't buy that he did it. I think the convict made it up.
Science back then was nowhere near accurate enough to say that his specific shoe definitely made the imprint. Especially as it’s not the sole, and it’s on the skin. I put zero stock in that supposed evidence
The work you put into your content is appreciated, Kevin! It’s refreshing to see that there’s at least one person on here that’s able to be unbiased and provide multifaceted accounts of cases.
The 911 call is classic for a narcissistic murderer... I have an alibi and story to tell. Not I just found my gf in the closet cold to the touch not breathing. Please help!
@@othertalk3313 True but he does exhibit many narcissistic traits. Leading the 911 call with an alibi is certainly an indicator of guilty knowledge. Also not checking for signs of life or administering assistance because you know the person's dead without verifying it... Very suspicious.
IDK. Honestly. We imagine ourselves to be some expert on how people will react to trauma. But I don't think we've ever tested our accuracy on such things. Some people may react differently... I'm a huge fan of the movie The Fugitive. And so if I approach a dead body, I might be hesitant to touch it in fear of creating evidence that makes me the killer.
Incredibly weird case! Why did he clean up? If Andrea answered the door to Bobby she would have had clothes on... he threw her in the bath (of water) to test her breathing then put her in the closet. So the investigators found her dead and damp and assumed she'd just got out of the shower. Who showers with their clothes on? Had the clothes been removed, and put in the wash (by Chris)? More questions than answers - another GREAT JTL story! ♥ My thoughts go out to Andrea's son Kevin, I hope he finds peace.
You know why Chris cleaned up. To cover up his murder-for-hire, which also explains why it took him six hours after getting home from work to "discover" Andrea's body in the closet.
Hey Kevin. Another tremendous video. Love your selections. Hardly ever a case that I'd been familiar with. Appreciate that you use a good amount of source material, audio, video. Takes more work, but shows your work ethic. Also appreciate the consistency in your postings haha. All the best from Montreal. I haven't looked it up, but you seem very Canadian. Haha
@@Eric-ff2ii here we go 🙄😒 did my comment make you think I don’t know what MURDER is?! Who are you to tell me what type of terminology to use?!! I was completely shocked after watching this video, and how he grossly got away with it.. but I guess you’re scrolling through comments looking for people to go back and forth with.. please 🫠🙄
I couldn't believe his uncaring, matter-of-fact tone during that call. No emotion whatsoever! Like it was not, at the very least, shocking, if not devastating, to find his fiancee dead in the closet. 😐
@@krissypeters1517 Sarcasm is the least we can do against these online "know It all" detectives. I really hope that kind of person will never be selected as a juror in a trial. Because they "think" with their emotions, not with facts.
Wow!! I've heard about this crime a while ago, and it's super sad! But Kevin.. u explained it VERY WELL! It's always good to get/know straight facts! TY for informing us in the right/ correct way 😊 Also my thoughts and prayers go out to Andreas family and friends especially her son ❤
Kevin, Thank-you once again for a well-researched presentation. I believe this is one of your oldest crime analysis but still it is interesting. I also like the ambience of your setting; cerebral yet warm, just purr-fect 😺.
"As soon as I reached out to touch her, she just laid down on the ground." As tragic as this case is, hearing how she just immediately gave up and resigned her life to be taken like that is absolutely heartbreaking.
He did not have to kill her, if he badly needed money he could have told her to pay him to disappear and go to the police. Period. Too many idiots in this case.
You know this whole fiasco could have turned out a whole lot differently if the 2 men involved were smarter. All Chris had to do was negotiate proper and fair terms and get a freaking divorce and all the hitman had to do was act as a double agent, have a convo with the wife telling her that he was sent to kill her but if she lets him take whatever he wants, he won't, the end. Especially since he was dumb enough to be doing this without having been paid yet. The husband would NEVER have turned him for fear of being exposed, he gets paid, the whole thing ends, she remains alive.
As a native Arlingtonian, I remember this case! I recognized his face immediately. I'm convinced he's guilty 100%. When asked if he put her in the closet he didn't say NO, as any innocent person would. RIP Andrea!
The husband's shoe print matched the nark on her body. That would make Bobby Joe's testimony true as he said her body was moved from how he had left her. This really was a bungled case
I will never understand how the US legal system works, how openly and knowingly lying to suspects about evidence can be acceptable! It’s lazy, do your jobs!
It’s to trick them. That’s why they always tell you to get a lawyer. In Canada it’s way worse! They spend so much money on months of undercover work pretending they are in the mob to get someone on murder charges only to give them 10-15 years.
that's cuz a lot of time they're not looking for who did it, they just need someone to go to jail for it. Hypothetically if they think it's the husband, they'll zero in on him and do everything in their power to make them confess or frame him. They'll literally waste so much time on the wrong person just so they can lead to a dead end. The US justice system is a joke.
What makes it even worse is that it's a crime if you lie to the police, while they can lie without consequence (unless the jury takes offense to it, as in this case, but still at no personal cost to the detectives involved).
Hey Kevin, you should know you bring the mystery to your true crime storytelling. You’re really good at captivating us. I get the ever so slightest feeling it’s 1985 again and I’m just a kid watching the Alfred Hitchcock tv show with my mom. Love it!👍🙏
What really struck me as odd was how many details he went into about things that were so insignificant. For instance, how many crackers he ate. I guess we will never know if he's truly guilty or not. However I am pleased with the verdict because they did not have enough information or evidence to support a guilty conviction. Another wonderful video, as always. By the way, your cat is adorable. You're set up where you do your videos, is so beautiful. This is the most underrated crime channel. You should have millions of viewers by now. Hopefully, you'll continue to grow and grow. Your voice is impeccable.
It seems in most of these videos, the killer--trying to play innocent--always over-explains something either in their 9-1-1 call or during their interrogation. For me though, I think Chris did hire the guy. Both men's interrogation details, along with the crime scene evidence, seem to fit together like a puzzle. A big one for me is Bobby Joe knew exactly what time Andrea would be home that Friday... 1 pm. She was normally never home at that time of day---and Chris did have foreknowledge that she would be home at 1 pm that Friday. Makes more sense than not that he did indeed relay this info to Bobby Joe.
This is so sick. What a terrible thing for her to be murdered and betrayed by the man she thought loved her. What I'll never understand is why someone who wanted out of a relationship wouldn't just man up, tell her the truth, and start over on his own? Instead of having her killed.
Kevin, you and Jose @ Evil Intentions never fail to make me feel like you're at my house, telling me about what happened to your family member. Your warmth & compassion while detailing the worst day of a person's life is unmatched.
Same! As soon as Evil Intentions drops another one I'm on it. Jose even keeps us informed on recent updates- he really cares. JTL also brings us stories we've NEVER heard! Speaking for those that can't & need to be remembered.
Very well explained case, what a twist and turn murder of this dear lady, so very sad. Love the two cats you have as companions Kevin and wonder what they are called.
Another great video and thorough true crime case presentation. You always present the information and facts of the case without personal bias (unlike some other true crime channels). Thank you for the time & effort you and Cathy have put into researching this case! 👍🏼🥰 As an aside, I was living in Arlington, Virginia (the picture in the beginning of Shirlington Village is where I lived), and remember this crime/case. I always thought Chris was guilty, as did many of my friends and coworkers. Just something about his story, attitude and reaction after Andrea was found dead. 🤔
Let's see, your girlfriend is dead but instead of being distraught and out of your mind that your love of 7 years is dead... "the rolls of nickels and dimes are gone".
Hi Kevin. Good one. Well done. I so appreciate tire maturity, your neutrality, professionalism and is nobody ever told tot your soothing voice. No I do not fall asleep listening to you. Your videos are to interesting and riveting for sleep! Thanks Againm Denise San Francisco
This one’s interesting. I saw it on either Dateline or 20/20, from their coverage I thought he was not guilty & fully believed in his innocence. And that his stepson was crazy for still thinking Chris did it! But after watching your video and reading all these ppl’s comments-I’m torn now! Now I’m thinking the stepson was right this whole time bc Kevin included SO MUCH that the other shows didn’t include!! That’s why you’re my favorite channel! ❤
I am not at all convinced he is guilty, not even close. Could he be? yes I admit he could, I just don't think it all lines up.. Police misconduct was outrageous. That they furthermore went to "computer guy" in prison, saying they could make his stay easier if he knew anything about murder for hire. Good God! He totally worked with the officers to the extent he believed their lies, and doubted his own sanity. Its all just too much. Was he a guy with a guilty conscience for pay for porn, sure. A creeper, yup. That doesn't make him able to kill his wife. Airtight alibi ,
Holy moly. Haven't heard of this case, but as a single mom who is a lifelong swimmer and swim instructor and who is in library school right now... Wow, that intro gave me chills. ETA: after watching, wow, I do think both men are guilty. I cannot believe he got away with his role in that murder! I'm glad her son is at peace with the truth, regardless of verdict, and has been able to continue on in his life despite the horrible tragedy.
How can you not believe he got away with it?? There was no evidence at all except the word of know psychopath. If you were on the jury and would have convicted him that scares me.
Hello Kevin….. I really enjoy your well put together story’s! So thank you for a great channel! Kathy Washington State PS you have a really beautiful Kitty!!!!!!❤
Its despicable, nice lady give a computer away. She knew it was perfectly good and just wanted to do a good deed. That monster just wanted to kill her, so he did, just like he had tried to do before and after to women. A sociopath, he made up the whole murder for hire, to be moved to a better facility, and probably from boredom.
Excellent video as always. How many takes does it require to get the kitty to sit still on the back of the chair during your intro? He very likely did it but the reasonable doubt was overwhelming.
I love the way you present your videos. Even if the case is pretty straightforward, you know exactly how to plot and position every element to give us that "ohhh!" moment. Hard truth turns out to be lies, ridiculous lies end up as truth. You really are a master, Kevin. I think you should seriously consider writing a crime novel. ❤
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This has to be one of the strangest 911 calls anyone would make as Christopher casually tells a short story about his plans with her and then finally states she is probably dead.
And also to be talking about missing nickels and dimes and a gym bag... I mean nothing of any real, great value.
Honestly, after watching so many of these, this comes across as 1000x more believable than someone screaming and freaking out incoherently.
How is that strange but its not strange for the police to immediately blame innocent people? I would be giving my alibi on the phone too. Police blame a lot of innocent people. Something tells me you never watched a murder documentary, they almost always start blaming the innocent first until they find the perpetrator
Agreed , oh btw my fiance is dead , anyway I had some coins missing , etc really ???
@@loveforeignaccents Things missing are indicative of a burglary, it has nothing to do with the value of the goods.
It's always highly suspicious when a 911 caller starts with an alibi before stating what they are calling about.
Yep. Every time! 😅
Couldn’t be me, I did my laundry
You're absolutely wrong. Imagine now, you walked into your house and a family member is dead, stuffed into a closet (clearly murdered). Would you just say "my family member is dead." And nothing further? Naturally you'll want to say what happened. And where is his alibi? To me it sounds like the dispatcher was asking the questions, what exactly is his alibi?
Everyone reacts differently and making a blanket statement as if you're always supposed to act a certain way or you're suspicious is absurd, I'm glad you're not the investigator. If I went to the gym and came back and my girlfriend was murdered, it would be one of the first things I'd mention. And the dispatcher without a doubt would ask what happened and I'd say "I don't know I just got back from the gym". Really tho, imagine thinking everyone acts the same.
I'm genuinely curious, what is the alibi he LEAD with? He just said he was expecting her, not an alibi.
@@TIMTIMEditsthe first Thing should be exactly that
"My wife is dead, here is alot of blood"
Plus Name and adress
You can explane yourself later
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I imagine if I found my husband dead in one of our closets I’d be way more hysterical on the phone to 911
Not everybody handles death the same, and I'm speaking from experience. My mother passed some years ago, and I couldn't cry or anything. It wasn't until maybe 6 months later that I let out a whale of emotions, and I felt pain.
@iamthejpshow but was she murdered? Did you find her murdered?
When my husband gets a cold I go crazy with worry! (30+++ years married today and he’s still my BAE!)
You can imagine but at least 50% of people are emotionless for up to 24 hrs bc of shock, some more... ive seen it many times. Talk to people who work around death all the time and they'll all tell you that you should not be guessing about guilt based on how someone acts bc shock makes people weirdly like "professional"
@@iamthejpshowsame i just posted from experience. I've been in shock from loved ones sudden tragic death or sudden near death and i was very emotionless... after about 24 hrs the crying and screaming and shaking started, and I've cried everyday since and was in no way responsible... wasn't even murder. I have bad ptsd and i wonder if the people who didn't go into shock and processes immediately dont have ptsd or still do or a mix.
I can't imagine losing someone, being in shock, and accused of their murder.
These shows scare me. I hope I'm never accused bc accusation equals guilty in this country bc of peoples uninformed hot takes, sad and terrifying
After watching numerous (couple) murderous videos, one could deduce being single is a possible life saver.
Just don’t get tipsy and wander away alone from a bar.
Also, never leave your patio door open/unlocked or window(s) open/unlocked.
Always pay attention to your surroundings.
This all goes for literally everyone ❤
@@susansage7218 And cats!!!🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱
True...
Grateful for all the safety guidance from my elders...
I get spooked but still watch! Certainly makes me more cautious
Kevin I have been following you for some time and cannot believe that you are not a 2 million plus channel! Your delivery and attention to detail is outstanding. Keep up the great work and hoping for great success in the coming years.
TBF the true crime channel market on YT is fairly oversaturated right now.
@@sheenamaclean8324 yeah but Kevin is top notch better than the rest
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Kevin has a super cool voice. It's perfect for these types of videos.
Agreed 💯👊🏼
Aww even the kitty cat is patiently listening to the crime story!
that kitty looks and moves exactly like my Snowy who passed away six months ago. I miss him so much
@@chelseagirl278 😔😢
@@chelseagirl278 Sorry for your loss 😢😢
Cat is his work bestie
Beautiful kitties!
the perfect murder literally fell into his lap. From the computer being given, to the phone number being scribbled on a piece of paper , to the follow up phone call. It all played beautifully and synchronistically for Chris Johnson
Certainly seems like it, but obviously not enough to convict.
I'm sold on that about 75%
He was innocent. Watch Dr Grande Andrea Cincotta case.
@@RullXovnah I just watched Dr. Grande and I still think the husband was involved
I agree, he definitely got away with that.
This channel is so underrated!! 🔥🔥Another hit Kevin!
Great Taste.. 👍..
So frustrating to know he walked away free. Rip Andrea.
And thank you for another incredible video, Kevin. See you at the next one. 😊
I'm laughing so hard right now. I read comments before I watched the video...spoiler alert😅
I’m only at 5:45 but Sir, the second you find your alleged true love dead in your wardrobe and AREN’T incoherent or begging for an ambulance, you killed her. End of.
damn...I am glad you wrote this cause I was just thinking...at least this guy didn't act like a fool with the raging screaming and fake crying...I was real close to giving him a pass.....damn
Police departments all over the world should hire you if you're so good at knowing if someone is the killer by just listening to a 911 call.
@@sauce1232 thank you
@@sauce1232. It’s actually not at all unlikely to hear fake hysterical crying or the alibi being given before giving the address to the house. Just listen the callers. All normal investigations are done but there is often a correlation. ✌🏽
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I thought I knew this case so, I was listening while cooking, and cleaning, got all the way to the conversation with her son (20 yrs down the line) and realized I was hearing a lot of new information! I had to go all the way back to 14 minutes and pay close attention! Thank You Kevin, once again JTL has given me much to think about!
That’s why I love Kevin. He’s done a few cases I’ve already heard, but I watch anyway because he makes sure we have all the information available.
@@BrookeClyde same! I always watch what Kevin creates because, he always, without fail, give me food for thought! A lot of times we form opinions on cases and Kevin makes me see things differently! I live JTL!
Aha! Were you vacuuming?
Suspicious.
He was unbelievably calm in the 911call. It so odd that he's asking for a police officer instead of an ambulance. He seems very sure that theres no life needs to be revive.
Well, if you've been home for nearly seven hours, didn't see or hear your SO come in during that time, and that person is cold to the touch upon spotting them, then, yes, chances are that person cannot be revived.
She was cold to the touch, you’re long gone at that point
He was obviously involved …master mind..I’m sorry for her son who never got justice for his mother’s killing
@@pupikatz8442 Well, he actually did. Seems Billy Joe was charged and convicted for his deeds.
I can’t believe they were able to get it to trial…. There was zero evidence…. Except for the actual killer…..
Thank you Kevin. What I love most about the cases you cover is the ambiguity as to who the perpetrator actually is. This allows for speculation, debate, analysis, and interpretation of the evidence provided. It's thought provoking.
My sympathy to Andrea’s family.
Excellent work, Kevin…as always. Love the kitties !
Those undercovers couldn't have sounded MORE like cops than if they had their uniforms on 😭😭😭😭😭
Talking about “I’m *kin* to Bobby“ and also him not pressing on being paid right away by politely saying “if you could help us that would be *excellent*” Like com’on sir we know you’re the police, you ain’t fooling nobody 😂😂
😂😂thought the same!
Exactly!!! Smh
You have amazing intuition after being told the full story and that they're literally undercover cops
Lots of True Crime options out there. This one is a cut above the rest.
Production is top notch.❤
Omg I absolutely love this channel! Your narration is amazing 😊
Appreciate it 🙂
You are THE BEST.
What I love the most,is your voice and narratives. Just the case..it’s NOT about your feelings and you. Like most of them out there.
Where’s my watch…..err it’s where you left it…….I left it here…..so I go look at “here”….lo and behold, there is the watch……aww sorry babe…..I’m thinking hospice care…….
This man got away with murder. Andrea still deserves justice. This was painful to watch
I agree 💯
How could he have done it with an airtight alibi at the time of her death?
@@uhuhuh1966 This other guy, who had nothing to lose, claimed to have been asked by Chris to do it for 5k. It's all there in the video. But jury didn't accept his testimony. I sure would have.
@@justme33126 1. The guy lied constantly & 2. There was no evidence that it was Chris, he never saw him or got his name, he just assumed it was Chris.
I I'm undecided about this one. It would be quite bold for the accused to hire a hitman, promise $5,000, and then not follow through. The hitman mentioned that the accused claimed to be an engineer, but that alone doesn't prove guilt. That information exchange could have taken place when they spoke about the computer.
I see Kevin has a new fan who listens very attentively 🐈. Excellent work as always!
I would have never thought she was one year older than him, let alone 16.
My grandmother was 17 years older than her husband, my grandfather . We never had any idea, no one did. Sadly he preceded her in death, she lived to be 102.
Thanks again for your quality true crime investigations
Also love your cats
It was nice of them to join in again for this one. Usually they’re not too keen 🙂
The minute he said he ate 3 crackers and dropped the blue basket, I knew he was trying way too hard to explain himself.
LOL. Over-explaining seems to be a common theme with quite a few of the murder suspects in these videos.
Yep
My mother was telling me about watching a transformer explode while she was driving. She was on Walton, near Heathrow, and took a big gulp of her coffee. It was lukewarm, but the peppermint creamer sometimes fools her. Anyway, she took the drink… gulp, really, and then two other sedans passed her. She wasn’t at the place where the speed limit goes up though. Why don’t the police do something about speeders there? Anyway, sorry, I was drinking my coffee…
MOM! She’s been well evaluated for dementia. She’s just this way. So, it could be indicative of guilt or literally nothing.
@@Marc-King777 with all suspects, it is a tell.
@@TheGooglyminotaur storytelling is not your thing at all. WTF was all that about!?
Thanks, Kevin, for a well done presentation. I've never heard of this case until now.
This has become one of my favorite crime channel, and I have listened to/tried out many. I am a retired prosecutor and appreciate your commentary!
If her car wasn’t there, why would her call out her name when he got home? Liar.
First thing I caught early on. He had said the car wasn't there.
Mmn. Good point
This guy seems guilty AF but i also wouldn't be surprised if he was innocent bc men never see ANYTHING. Even when it is right there.
This is so true. My ex husband would trip over his empty beer bottles and then ask why I hadn't washed his dirty dishes. Men!
And the shoe print?
@@bjbrown You’re raising him wrong.
I don’t know if this is intended as a joke, but this statement is funny because it’s so true.
@QuoththeRavenRequiem I wish it was a joke!! I said it bc it is so true I actually could believe the guy
I very much appreciate your attention to detail and thoughtful delivery. With so many low quality true crime channels popping up, the real deal is the go-to. Thank you for your thinkers. 👏
Especially with the trend of AI narrations, this channel is infinitely better
YES! I love these crime channels but the generic AI so many are using is awful! I refuse to subscribe to any using it. This and Darklivity are my faves for the human interaction. 😅💙🇺🇸
That 911 call alone was enough to show his guilt.
Thank you, Kevin, for your thoughtful response and presentation of this case. You are my favourite Chanel because of the calm, unbiased way you deliver information. No drama, just facts!
Wow, Kevin! this is the best work I’ve seen in this genre in a long time. Excellent work and thank you. xo
The beautiful white cat gives you additional credibility.
LOL.
Makes me sneeze 😢@@loveforeignaccents
He doesn't sound to unhappy knowing his partner is dead!
No he doesn't. I can understand being in shock after the death of a loved one, but Chris acted as if he didn't really care. He never acted like a bereaved partner, not once. Disturbing.
I've seen a few different channels cover this case. Yes, his reactions were concerning to me, also. My impression of Chris was, and is, that he is on the autism spectrum, likely Aspergers, and that blunts his emotional range of expression. I am a bit surprised that didn't show up as a possible factor here in Kevin's coverage of this long saga.
@@livingitup9647Everyone is now either autistic or narcissistic with y'all armchair doctors 😅
He was more concerned about his nickels, dimes, and gym bag all being missing.
People don't react the same.
There are so many weird things here. You'd think that someone who hires a convict to murder someone and then STIFFS the guy his 5000 dollars would think "Gee, this person will come back and kill me if I don't pay him since he knows where I live" ... right??
Good point, which I happened to overlook.
Exactly 🧐🤔
but he knew the guys criminal history and most likely knew he was back in jail so he was safe in the meantime
@@amazonz8590 There was no way he could have known the guy would end up arrested days after the murder.
AND THEN THE HITMAN GOT LIFE IN PRISON?!?! HOW DID HE GET AWAY WITH THIS WTF
Thank you Kevin. Can't believe Ive never heard of this case before. RIP Andrea Cincotta~ Your channel is top notch, well presented & high quality! p.s. your "background" gets better & better
Howdy, Kevin! Just cruising through to say hello and thank you for your sure-to-be-amazing upload. Your videos are top-notch! Now to go watch it! Thanks again! ❤❤❤
@19:47 it still wild to me that SCOTUS said it is legal for police to lie to suspects, but you can be charged with lying to the police. A clear double standard in the law like that should be addressed.
What's even worse is that the SCOTUS ruled that you can't sue the police when they lie under oath.
SCOTUS is a joke, completely neurotic judges. Term limits are needed and a new process to select them.
Police and suspects are two different things with differing intents, how is this puzzling? One is to solve crime, the other is to evade it, if involved in a crime which would you need/prefer?
@@hardwired8084our justice system was set up to favor suspects, not give police massive leeway. Amendments 4 to 8 are solely to tie government’s hands.
What you should worry about is how often those lies end up implicating innocent people. I don’t know about Chris, although the confession is false if he hired someone else to do it, but there are literally hundreds of confessions that have since been proven false just in the US.
The real question is, do you want people convicted of crimes or perpetrators to be convicted of their crimes?
It's not that clear. It is illegal to lie to the FBI but actual police or sheriff's deputies it's not a straight crime. The circumstances dictate the legality. Like giving a fake name on a traffic stop is a crime.
SOO glad to see a new vid. I was going into JTL withdrawal! ABSOLUTELY ADORE THIS CHANNEL!!💯👏🏼
Bobby's confession details clearly covered ALOT of what the evidence at the scene showed. There were so many things he could not have known unless he was there
i know! it was very believable imo. especially the engineer part!
@@nicoledenning8090and the root beer that Chris so casually mentioned.
No, he was in the apartment before, how do you know the woman killed didn’t mention that her husband was an engineer? He knew the layout of the apartment, he also could have read newspaper reports, he just wanted a better prison.
Bobby must of been at the hose to kill her, otherwise how would he have know that it was root beer as he stated in his confession
Yep. The root beer, very specific, the broken clutch and location of car breakdown, that Andrea was wet, the strangulation.... Way too specific for anybody to just guess.
Yay - the cats made an appearance, great video, not heard that story before, keep up the good work Kevin😊
I love listening to a story when there’s a cute little kitty cat just sitting politely listening with us. Makes me feel at home
I was more upset when I dropped one of my earbuds into the toilet then this guy was when he found his girlfriend/wife.
I always love the videos where the cat gets a cameo.
And, what a great case! Thank you, Kevin!!
Shoe print on her body was an exact match to his sneakers. Did he offer an explanation? It's 1 solid piece of evidence, but not explained in this video, how this was handled by police & prosecution at the trial.
Appears to me he/Chris did more after the fact in regards to what Bobby Joe had stated he did and how he had left things.
@@loveforeignaccents Exactly. He put that shoe print on her wet dead body while moving her from the position Bobby Joe had left her. Plus Chris admitted to police that he had cleaned up the house when he got home during his initial interrogation. Now we know why it took Chris six hours to "discover" her body after he got home from work--because he was cleaning up after Bobby Joe!!!!!
This is a man working 2 jobs. Subjected to police interrogation for 20 odd hour. Then the police lie to him, and like any good citizen thinks, well this must be true, police don't lie. At that moment he begins to doubt his own sanity. Manipulation plain and simple. coerced confession.
Even if he is guilty, the police misconduct fouls the case.
There is reasonable doubt all over this thing. I don't buy that he did it. I think the convict made it up.
Science back then was nowhere near accurate enough to say that his specific shoe definitely made the imprint. Especially as it’s not the sole, and it’s on the skin. I put zero stock in that supposed evidence
The work you put into your content is appreciated, Kevin! It’s refreshing to see that there’s at least one person on here that’s able to be unbiased and provide multifaceted accounts of cases.
The police really did bungle this case. The interviews and undercovers were so bad
The 911 call is classic for a narcissistic murderer... I have an alibi and story to tell. Not I just found my gf in the closet cold to the touch not breathing. Please help!
Calling everyone and everything a narcissist is classic for a know-nothing armchair psychologist. 😏
@@othertalk3313 True but he does exhibit many narcissistic traits. Leading the 911 call with an alibi is certainly an indicator of guilty knowledge. Also not checking for signs of life or administering assistance because you know the person's dead without verifying it... Very suspicious.
IDK. Honestly. We imagine ourselves to be some expert on how people will react to trauma. But I don't think we've ever tested our accuracy on such things. Some people may react differently... I'm a huge fan of the movie The Fugitive. And so if I approach a dead body, I might be hesitant to touch it in fear of creating evidence that makes me the killer.
The armchair psychologist is here! Thank god
Incredibly weird case! Why did he clean up? If Andrea answered the door to Bobby she would have had clothes on... he threw her in the bath (of water) to test her breathing then put her in the closet. So the investigators found her dead and damp and assumed she'd just got out of the shower. Who showers with their clothes on? Had the clothes been removed, and put in the wash (by Chris)? More questions than answers - another GREAT JTL story! ♥
My thoughts go out to Andrea's son Kevin, I hope he finds peace.
Good points/detective work!
You know why Chris cleaned up. To cover up his murder-for-hire, which also explains why it took him six hours after getting home from work to "discover" Andrea's body in the closet.
Hey Kevin. Another tremendous video. Love your selections. Hardly ever a case that I'd been familiar with. Appreciate that you use a good amount of source material, audio, video. Takes more work, but shows your work ethic. Also appreciate the consistency in your postings haha. All the best from Montreal. I haven't looked it up, but you seem very Canadian. Haha
He is originally from Canada; now living in the UK.
He definitely used that man to unalive his fiancé and got away with it smh sad sad sad
It’s called murder…please don’t downplay her tragic death to a euphemistic “unalive”. It’s disrespectful
@@Eric-ff2ii here we go 🙄😒 did my comment make you think I don’t know what MURDER is?! Who are you to tell me what type of terminology to use?!! I was completely shocked after watching this video, and how he grossly got away with it.. but I guess you’re scrolling through comments looking for people to go back and forth with.. please 🫠🙄
@@britoniaburnette1717”The badbad man unalive the female with a pewpew and made a mess with her body sauce” That’s what you sound like
Thank you for posting today, Kevin. Really needed the pick me up of a new video!!
The most calming Voice for the most chilling cases .. Hi Kevin 💟 amazing as always 😊
That has to be the most suspicious 911 call I’ve ever heard! Guilty and not even capable of pretending???
Police departments all over the world should hire you if you can know if someone is guilty over a 911 call 😅
I couldn't believe his uncaring, matter-of-fact tone during that call. No emotion whatsoever! Like it was not, at the very least, shocking, if not devastating, to find his fiancee dead in the closet. 😐
@@justme33126 You never know how people will react. I lost my father when I was 14 and I was smiling at his funeral because I was nervous.
@@sauce1232it’s an opinion .. your sarcasm is unnecessary 😊
@@krissypeters1517 Sarcasm is the least we can do against these online "know It all" detectives. I really hope that kind of person will never be selected as a juror in a trial. Because they "think" with their emotions, not with facts.
Wow!! I've heard about this crime a while ago, and it's super sad! But Kevin.. u explained it VERY WELL! It's always good to get/know straight facts! TY for informing us in the right/ correct way 😊
Also my thoughts and prayers go out to Andreas family and friends especially her son ❤
Hey Kevin, that's a very patient cat you have, he watched the whole episode!!
🎉❤ here within the first hour!! Thank you for your work Kevin, I enjoy your videos. It's been a while now I've been doing so. Thank you
Kevin, Thank-you once again for a well-researched presentation. I believe this is one of your oldest crime analysis but still it is interesting. I also like the ambience of your setting; cerebral yet warm, just purr-fect 😺.
Good comment, Hon.
@@richardlippincott8881 Truly ✌🏽
@@richardlippincott8881 Thank-you, so sweet.
"As soon as I reached out to touch her, she just laid down on the ground." As tragic as this case is, hearing how she just immediately gave up and resigned her life to be taken like that is absolutely heartbreaking.
He did not have to kill her, if he badly needed money he could have told her to pay him to disappear and go to the police. Period. Too many idiots in this case.
You know this whole fiasco could have turned out a whole lot differently if the 2 men involved were smarter. All Chris had to do was negotiate proper and fair terms and get a freaking divorce and all the hitman had to do was act as a double agent, have a convo with the wife telling her that he was sent to kill her but if she lets him take whatever he wants, he won't, the end. Especially since he was dumb enough to be doing this without having been paid yet. The husband would NEVER have turned him for fear of being exposed, he gets paid, the whole thing ends, she remains alive.
He sounded so calm and indifferent telling the 911 operator about his wife's death. Id be hysterical.
Oh, well, just my dead wife in the closet. No big deal. But, oh yeah, some of my coins are missing...
You would be hysterical…YOU.
As a native Arlingtonian, I remember this case! I recognized his face immediately. I'm convinced he's guilty 100%. When asked if he put her in the closet he didn't say NO, as any innocent person would. RIP Andrea!
The husband's shoe print matched the nark on her body. That would make Bobby Joe's testimony true as he said her body was moved from how he had left her. This really was a bungled case
I will never understand how the US legal system works, how openly and knowingly lying to suspects about evidence can be acceptable! It’s lazy, do your jobs!
Right. And then the "imagine if you did this" confession.
It is now illegal to lie in an interrogation in at least Oregon I believe. I expect it will spread
It’s to trick them. That’s why they always tell you to get a lawyer. In Canada it’s way worse! They spend so much money on months of undercover work pretending they are in the mob to get someone on murder charges only to give them 10-15 years.
that's cuz a lot of time they're not looking for who did it, they just need someone to go to jail for it. Hypothetically if they think it's the husband, they'll zero in on him and do everything in their power to make them confess or frame him. They'll literally waste so much time on the wrong person just so they can lead to a dead end. The US justice system is a joke.
What makes it even worse is that it's a crime if you lie to the police, while they can lie without consequence (unless the jury takes offense to it, as in this case, but still at no personal cost to the detectives involved).
Hey Kevin, you should know you bring the mystery to your true crime storytelling. You’re really good at captivating us. I get the ever so slightest feeling it’s 1985 again and I’m just a kid watching the Alfred Hitchcock tv show with my mom. Love it!👍🙏
This whole thing was so odd!! Another great job Kevin
What really struck me as odd was how many details he went into about things that were so insignificant. For instance, how many crackers he ate. I guess we will never know if he's truly guilty or not. However I am pleased with the verdict because they did not have enough information or evidence to support a guilty conviction. Another wonderful video, as always. By the way, your cat is adorable. You're set up where you do your videos, is so beautiful. This is the most underrated crime channel. You should have millions of viewers by now. Hopefully, you'll continue to grow and grow. Your voice is impeccable.
Too much over explaining for sure!
Yeah that stuck out to me too, who says “I ate 3 or 4 crackers” you just say “I ate some crackers” weird.
It seems in most of these videos, the killer--trying to play innocent--always over-explains something either in their 9-1-1 call or during their interrogation. For me though, I think Chris did hire the guy. Both men's interrogation details, along with the crime scene evidence, seem to fit together like a puzzle. A big one for me is Bobby Joe knew exactly what time Andrea would be home that Friday... 1 pm. She was normally never home at that time of day---and Chris did have foreknowledge that she would be home at 1 pm that Friday. Makes more sense than not that he did indeed relay this info to Bobby Joe.
This is so sick. What a terrible thing for her to be murdered and betrayed by the man she thought loved her. What I'll never understand is why someone who wanted out of a relationship wouldn't just man up, tell her the truth, and start over on his own? Instead of having her killed.
Hi, Kevin.
Wow! What a case. The cops messed up. 'Cause he is guilty as hell.
Thank you for the video. Have a good week. 😊
Great work as usual Kevin. Top notch.
Fascinating case. Brilliantly presented, Kevin. I greatly appreciate your hard work and expertise.
Great presentation thanx Kevin…always got me on the edge of my seat…literally!
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Kevin, you and Jose @ Evil Intentions never fail to make me feel like you're at my house, telling me about what happened to your family member. Your warmth & compassion while detailing the worst day of a person's life is unmatched.
Appreciate it ... we do our best to convey these stories with compassion and respect, I'm glad that comes through.
I’ve never heard of that channel, thanks for the info!
Another fan of Evil Intentions here!! Excellent channel
And of course a huge fan of Kevin and JTL as well 👍
Same! As soon as Evil Intentions drops another one I'm on it. Jose even keeps us informed on recent updates- he really cares. JTL also brings us stories we've NEVER heard! Speaking for those that can't & need to be remembered.
Very well explained case, what a twist and turn murder of this dear lady, so very sad. Love the two cats you have as companions Kevin and wonder what they are called.
White cat is Newton. Darker one is Hodge.
Another great video and thorough true crime case presentation. You always present the information and facts of the case without personal bias (unlike some other true crime channels). Thank you for the time & effort you and Cathy have put into researching this case! 👍🏼🥰
As an aside, I was living in Arlington, Virginia (the picture in the beginning of Shirlington Village is where I lived), and remember this crime/case. I always thought Chris was guilty, as did many of my friends and coworkers. Just something about his story, attitude and reaction after Andrea was found dead. 🤔
I love your voice and delivery of the crime stories and your furry whiskered audience❤
Another excellent video from Kevin; holds interest with narration style, attention to details, and visuals. Love the white kitty! ❤
Let's see, your girlfriend is dead but instead of being distraught and out of your mind that your love of 7 years is dead... "the rolls of nickels and dimes are gone".
Hi Kevin. Good one. Well done. I so appreciate tire maturity, your neutrality, professionalism and is nobody ever told tot your soothing voice. No I do not fall asleep listening to you. Your videos are to interesting and riveting for sleep! Thanks Againm Denise
San Francisco
This one’s interesting. I saw it on either Dateline or 20/20, from their coverage I thought he was not guilty & fully believed in his innocence. And that his stepson was crazy for still thinking Chris did it! But after watching your video and reading all these ppl’s comments-I’m torn now! Now I’m thinking the stepson was right this whole time bc Kevin included SO MUCH that the other shows didn’t include!! That’s why you’re my favorite channel! ❤
I am not at all convinced he is guilty, not even close. Could he be? yes I admit he could, I just don't think it all lines up.. Police misconduct was outrageous. That they furthermore went to "computer guy" in prison, saying they could make his stay easier if he knew anything about murder for hire. Good God!
He totally worked with the officers to the extent he believed their lies, and doubted his own sanity. Its all just too much.
Was he a guy with a guilty conscience for pay for porn, sure. A creeper, yup. That doesn't make him able to kill his wife. Airtight alibi ,
I appreciate it that youbdomt just make videos for the most views, i can tell you take your role serious
Seriously
Holy moly. Haven't heard of this case, but as a single mom who is a lifelong swimmer and swim instructor and who is in library school right now... Wow, that intro gave me chills.
ETA: after watching, wow, I do think both men are guilty. I cannot believe he got away with his role in that murder! I'm glad her son is at peace with the truth, regardless of verdict, and has been able to continue on in his life despite the horrible tragedy.
How can you not believe he got away with it?? There was no evidence at all except the word of know psychopath. If you were on the jury and would have convicted him that scares me.
Your whole story put together,is a work of Art 🎨 well done host 🎉
Thank you for another interesting case presentation, your videos are always a great watch.
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One of those 911 calls where you are just a few seconds in and already know who the perpetrator is.
Damn.
Just reading the title, I asked my husband how he would feel if he found me in our closet, unsuspectingly.
Him: 😳
You wouldn't know
This story is crazy :o Thank you for the Video
Hello Kevin….. I really enjoy your well put together story’s!
So thank you for a great channel!
Kathy
Washington State
PS you have a really beautiful
Kitty!!!!!!❤
Michal Ann here. Lake Forest Park WA where my four grandparents pioneered 100 years ago.
The 911 call says it all. Come on, seriously? He wasn't at all upset about finding his girlfriend dead in a closet?
The Deception Detective would be a good guy to analyze the 911 call. He has an interesting channel. "Statement analysis"
I feel the same way btw. But its not evidentual.
He was speaking as if he was casually ordering a large cheese pizza from Dominos on that 9-1-1 call. SMDH.
What a shame that no justice was given to convict her killer.
Love your channel, your presentation style, your opening designs, what can I say? 😊❤
Awwwwww ! Look at that beautiful kitty-cat ! 💜 Thanks , Kevin for such a great channel ! 🎉😃
Kevin you are looking great lately. Whatever you are doing, keep it up!
Hola Kevin,have been missing your succinct and always interesting storytelling. Good to "see" you back.
I see what you did there 😏
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Hello from Goa,India.
It’s difficult for me to grasp that someone is willing to take a human life for any amount of money
He took it for $600
@@mojamoja3962 Well, basically he would have taken it for free had he not stumbled upon all those dimes and nickels.
Right and just took the order from a complete stranger on a phone…
And from someone he didn't know and never met.
Its despicable, nice lady give a computer away. She knew it was perfectly good and just wanted to do a good deed. That monster just wanted to kill her, so he did, just like he had tried to do before and after to women. A sociopath, he made up the whole murder for hire, to be moved to a better facility, and probably from boredom.
Aww, I love the kitty cats on your chair❤❤❤thanks for another great episode.
Another thought provoking video. Well done, again.
Binge watching JTL on Sunday and then a new video comes out cool!
Enjoy!
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Excellent video as always.
How many takes does it require to get the kitty to sit still on the back of the chair during your intro?
He very likely did it but the reasonable doubt was overwhelming.
He previously has stated that he doesn't force his pets into the video; it's up to them if they want to join in or not.
I love the way you present your videos.
Even if the case is pretty straightforward, you know exactly how to plot and position every element to give us that "ohhh!" moment.
Hard truth turns out to be lies, ridiculous lies end up as truth.
You really are a master, Kevin. I think you should seriously consider writing a crime novel.
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That man Chris was cold as ice on that 911 call 😂😂🤦🏾♂️ got damnnn Chris you gotta show some emotion
Awesome video Kevin and a beautiful cat in the background ❤