How do you know for sure? Miracles do happen. Is today according to that one kind of crowd a competition to come up with as many hand picked by them research subjects to verify their biases and prejudices more and more as time goes on while only beginning to doubt that what Jesus Christ said is not true because Satans empire has convinced them that if they believe all that Jesus Christ said that would mean they have to give up a lot of pleasure in life as if that was going to be their forever place to be?
The fact that he delayed their trip by an entire day made them waste their time and resources on him while he selfishly waddled about the hospital toying with their emotions the whole while It just burns me up how kind they were to him they did not deserve this
Many predators do this. Harvey Weinstein used a walker when going to court and Bill Cosby had people to walk him in for “blindness” all to attempt that they are poor meek disabled men. It’s absurd. But they still try.
People like Nation amaze me. To have something so devastating happen in spite of all the good they put into the world and to come through it still helping others... that's a good person right there. I hope he finds love and happiness again.
You are absolutely right!! He is a gorgeous, amazing, intelligent, compassionate man who lost his amazing wife and now still has the strength and perseverance to shine in this world!! 😊
The fact that Broyhill told police at the scene that the stabbing was "a long time coming" alone speaks to premeditation. Being betrayed by a friend has to be one of the worst kinds of murders.
Here this loving couple welcomed this heartless man into their lives, only to later be traumatized by him. I can't even imagine the utter betrayal and confusion Jamie went through while being attacked by her "friend". This is beyond sick. My heart goes out to Nation and all who loved Jamie. 💔
Jon is right where he belongs. He premeditated the murder of human beings who had consistently shown him kindness & support. His defense attorney is delusional to think he should ever be released. No amount of incarceration would magically change him from a self-centered, manipulative liar; into a decent, honest person. Right where he belongs.
Yes, there are family annihilators who killed because their lies were about to be discovered (Claude Romand in France, for instance). Difficult to understand how someone can be that narcissistic, vane, unloving and inhumane. .I find these people fascinating.
How he thought he’d get away with murdering them to cover his theft is beyond me. They had been there through thick and thin and the best he could do was to murder the wife and attempt to murder the best friend? May the remainder of his days be a constant reminder of Jamie’s face every time he closes his eyes. RIP, Jamie.
Reminds me of the Mark Twain quote: “If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and man.” It can be dangerous to help some people because they will only turn on you. I had a "friend" like that and I'm so glad she's out of my life now, but the emotional scars are still there. My heart goes out to Nation for his loss, and to Jamie for what she suffered in her last moments. 😢
He thought he was going to be slick, I guess. I am also amazed that he ever thought he’d succeed. Definitely a personality disorder going on here. Also, Kevin, where’s your cat?
Its super convenient how 'memory loss' happens to almost all of these murderers just to excuse themselves of being guilty of what they did. They can remember everything in their whole lives but not the offense that put them in prison
I love it when a prosecutor brings this up during a trial. Prosecutor Martinez pointed it out to Jodi Arias during her trial for murdering Travis Alexander. She could remember everything (& I do mean EVERYTHING!) about the day of the murder, until she starts to stab him to death, that's where her mind goes oddly... blank. I get trauma and all, but you don't get to use that excuse for a PLANNED murder!! Edit: If you ARE traumatized by your own PREMEDITATED actions, well then, you should've thought your actions through further than just the murder itself, shouldn't you?
Exactly. These cowards don't ever think they will be found out and when they do, these money pro used lawyers enable them to no end because....they have rights too. Ugh.
Oh so true!! It’s too easy to exploit, sadly, the kindness of the pair who are predisposed to being understanding. In this case after Jonathan came out, it was a slippery slope of exploitation
Fantastic reporting! This channel is drastically underrated. I hope you obtain the success you deserve. Your stories are thought provoking, interesting and honest. Remain unbiased, don't interject your own opinions and you'll be golden!
I concur, although frequently I would like to know what Kevin actually thinks about these cases. I mean this one was kind of a no-brainer, but the more controversial cases is what I'm referring to.
@@donstaunch7895 I don't understand that draw to him. Maybe they just felt badly for him and wanted to be his friend. I can't imagine that they got anything out of that relationship, but I don't know.
So glad with is being punished. I must comment that that defense attorney with the gray hair is outstanding. 🙏🏾 So grateful his didn't get a lighter sentence, however, his attorney was fighting for him and that's what you would want on your side....just sayin 😉.
The one thing more repulsive than a murderer is a whining, spineless coward who murders. It's one thing to savagely take someone's life, it's something else when they try every trick in the book to impune their victim(s). It makes me physically ill. Also, its lawyer repeating if it went to murder Jamie, why did it return the money? Simple, it returned the money to show goodwill, to try to lessen or hoodwink those lovely people into believing it was remorseful. It bought the knife because it knew full well what it was going to do. Revolting, filthy thing that it is.😡
It merely had the flight money refunded to their account so that it could then charge a TRAIN ticket on their card! Defense lawyers can be such sidewinders.
Yes!! Those were exactly my thoughts when that pathetic lawyer was saying that. He was gaslighting the jury. Ugh. 🤢🤮 The horrible part is that some idi0tic jurors believe that nonsense, so that's why scum lawyers like this use those tactics.
@@houseofsolomon2440 As well as hopefully realizing your "worst/worse" grammatical error... it's always good to learn! And, yes, laziness is not a thing most people want to aspire to; horrible "quality", if we can even call it that.
One thing we can agree on, Jon is a longtime, practiced liar. Believe anything that comes out of his mouth at your own risk. Sociopaths look for empathetic people to use, as those that are kind understand that people make mistakes and will give the benefit of the doubt. How horrible for this young couple, to be victims of this perp.
Absolutely! I have come across a couple of people like this and they are VERY good at lies. And, when confronted, more lies come so easy. They prey on kind people and will be chameleons when it comes to mirroring behavior/personality/likes and dislikes.
He’s such a punk loser. He’s been a fat loser his whole life miserable and mad so he developed the life of a scammer. Taking advantage of nice people. Anyone who is willing to stab himself because he got found out is a demon…
This scumbag loser planned this murder 2 weeks in advance and admits he killed her. He should have been given the death penalty. What a disgusting man. May Jamie rest in peace and my condolences to her family and Nation. You can't trust anyone anymore.
One of the worst betrayals I've heard of! Despicable human being! I think he had feelings for Nation so some jealousy could be partly the motive beside money fraud!
I don't keep friends that add absolutely no value to my life. It has to be a two way street. This loser took advantage of his friends and attacked them when they figured him out.
@@novelist99Not letting people walk all over you isn’t selfish, it’s self-preservation. Sucking the resources and energy out of other people is selfish.
Despicable. This guy was smart enough to pull off financial crimes & he knew the end was near. He knew he was going to have to answer for enormous disparities in financial info. No psychosis going on there. Watching him being pushed around in a wheelchair, disgusting.
Totally agree I have a friend who is treated for this illness and only ever does good I think he was a jealous greedy nasty individual who planned this using mental health as a lever he knew exactly what he was doing glad he got life Rip to that poor lady
You said it! Jon is a big, soft, loser. And he knew it. Lying about various “illnesses” (disgusting) comes out of the closet, a lazy oaf, a user - a real piece of trash. Hope he’s now someone’s special friend in the slammer. He looks like he’d make a nice, soft, special friend. Loving all those “soap drops “ in the showers aren’t ya, Jon!
It would be interesting if someone did some digging into Jon's background to see if he has ever embezzled and/or manipulated anyone else, or if any suspicious deaths occurred. I would be very surprised if this was the first time he had done this to someone.
Kevin, you are such a good presenter. Narrating effectively is not a gift equally bestowed! I really enjoy your episodes, and watch them even when I'm familiar with the case. Thank you.
Before i watch it, i would like to mention, JustThoughtLounge is my favorite crime story channel, i just love watching it, especially like now, it`s Sunday, i just came from Gym, made lunch, sat down to eat, then i see the Notification from JustThoughtLounge, the timing is perfect. Thank you brother, you doing excellent job bringing new and updated crime stories to us. Cheers.
Well, it seems he knew their good-hearted nature quite well. I wouldn't doubt they wouldn't have forgiven him just by the type of people they seemed to be. Also, Jamie was the boss.
Just Thought Lounge... my kinda people. Great channel. 🎉❤🎉 Thank you, Kevin, for honoring the memories of the victims. I lost my brother to murder when he was 26, so your channel is a place I come to understand why someone had to take away my brother. All this time has passed and I'm still in pain. 💔 Everytime a family gets justice, I feel a little less sad. ❤
Geez, I'm so sorry for your loss. I couldn't imagine having to deal with the loss of my (only) sibling, but especially in such a horrific way. I hope you have been able to find some sort of semblance of peace and remember all of the good times you were able to share together. 💟
Defense attorneys like him who invent stories and lies belong behind bars, IMO. Thank God for intelligent and moral judges, like the one in this case. (Not all judges deserve to wear the robe)
Why? The guy already faked 3 illnesses so it was probably another attempt to gain attention or sympathy, knowing he was about to be exposed. My "cry for help" will make this nice couple forgive me, but maybe she wasn't buying it this time so he snapped because he finally felt cornered. Nation could've debunked or confirmed when the "suicide" attempt took place however. Were his wrists already cut when he fought off his attack? That detail was missing.
Piece of crap, that guy. Poor Jamie and Nation. Two sweet people that fell for this subhuman and his lies. Disgusting. All the tears they shed and all the time they gave up for this beast. wow. God bless you, Nation. What a horrible ordeal.
Love your channel , you are so well spoken and direct and clear . Your content is over the top needing to be out and exposed. Never heard of this case . Thank you for all your hard work and research. I even love your background ( soothing and nostalgic) So glaci found your channel 👍🏼keep on keeping on
The lesson here is that you never ever let a third person into your marriage. Always keep them at arms length and out of your personal life. Marriage is hard enough without having a large lump of shit stuck in the middle of it.
Planned, not planned!? Who cares? He killed her!!! She is dead. In the ground. Nothing for her but a very long and very lonely stay in the friggin cemetery. These defence lawyers make me sick
Lol. May you never need a defense lawyer. Their job is to defend the client. It might not be pretty or glorious but it has to be done. Also, there needs to be a distinction for various types of murder.
I know what you're saying, but you're not going to be a very successful defense attorney if you sympathize with the victims and work against your clients xD.
Please never stop posting on Sundays. I love your videos. I got That Chapter on Tuesday and Friday. Coffeehouse Crime on Monday and Thursday. And JTL on Sunday. Love what you do Kevin!!!
Never allow a third wheel into your inner cycle. So sorry for the couple whose only fault was compassion, kindness and care for their 'friend' 😢. May your wife rest in peace 🙏
He was 31 at the time, I believe, which only confirms that he in fact looked way older than he actually was. As an aside, look how horribly Lori Vallow Daybell has aged behind bars... definitely evil spewing out of her pores.
@loveforeignaccents I thought I heard 41 in the narration. If he was 31, I don't know what to think. Vallow-Daybell looks like 10 miles of bad road. No access to botox, paint, and spackle in prison is my guess.
I would get tired of a 3rd wheel always there and needy. And it's just weird no matter who you are to be attaching yourself to a married couple. And a nightmare for the couple. Like a child following them, and it's not even theirs. They definitely should have thought something was off with their chubby pal. I hate that had to happen to her. When someone wants to be that involved with their friends, I'd be rethinking that situation.
Well, to be fair, they were in their twenties. I don't think most people at that age think that others have a motive or agenda, especially when they were so loving and kind-hearted themselves. For people like Nation and Jaime, I think they would find it implausible that people could be anything other than what they were/the way they were, so selfless and having such unconditional love. Once one gets older, perhaps they see reality for what it is. At least that has been my experience.
@@TonyDanza4Lyfe Don't know where you came up with that speculation. He was going to spend the night one night when he had a supposed early doctor's appointment the next day.
What I love about your channel is the amount of clips and footage you get of each story and edit so well into your videos. Also getting straight to the facts of the case and no filler. Awesome content hope you rise to the top
I'm so tired of this world in which those most full of light and love are lost far too soon. My heart hurt listening to Nation address the defendant. They were so good to him!
Can anyone be trusted anymore? 😢 What an awful person. John murdered Jaime, someone who honestly cared for him and helped him, and the family trusted him. And for John to lie about his alleged medical issues...taking advantage of the family's kindness. It's disgusting of John.
That’s being the devil’s advocate, some would say. Sorry but don’t trust a fat person. I know not every fat person is untrustworthy and I’m slightly overweight myself but the fact that you cannot be disciplined when you’re eating can be a sign.
If you have a friend that has no life , no girlfriend, no house , bad health , no car etc , you might want to look at them closley because they probably hate your guts
In this case no boyfriend, but you're right. I walked away from one such friend who, at the time, was unemployed, miserable with her life, and couldn't celebrate and was taking it out on guess who?
I think Jon was in love with Nation and stayed close to the couple to be near Nation. As he became more jealous and depressed, realizing Nation would never love him romantically, Jon had a gradual mental breakdown as evidenced by his escalating criminal behavior.
It's always the person was mental, and this is why he committed the crime. How about it's because he was envious of his friends, or because he was an evil person?
Another unknown case to me delivered by Kev, its so rare to find a case i dont know. Thank you for the amount of research you must have put in and for telling it in your professional unique way mate. God bless Kevin, wife, and 2 adorable little doges 🐶 🐶 ❤
The comment by the guy who says that if your so called friend has no job,, no girlfriend Etc,,Etc-- is the best statement I've seen and he never lied..!! These types of people are so envious and jealous of your success.!! Great comment.!!
This case shows it's not a good idea to give a friend jobs and every sort of support, without considering how resentment and jealousy may become their primary emotion toward you. We may really want to help others but most of it is up to them.
You wouldn't think people would become resentful and jealous of someone who helps them, but that's the way sociopaths operate. They form no true emotional attachments; they only view other people as pawns to reach their own selfish goals.
@@loveforeignaccents I'm glad you don't have any of those sorts in your life, too. I had one enter my life a few years ago and my life became a living nightmare. 😧
Ghastly case, what an awful person and what a terrible act to murder this dear lady who was his friend. Sentence brilliant and will give him time to mull over what he lost. RIP Jamie, you tried so very hard to please.
As always, your video was excellent... Joh is a despicable man and is now where he belongs, he is a danger to everybody... RIP Jamie and Courage to Nation and families
John came out of the closet, had a crush on Nation and then killed his competitor, too bad that poor Jamie did not use her woman intuition, I think she was so kind of a person. The point is kindness has a dark side and this story demonstrate this fact. RIP Jamie.
LOVE your videos!!! They're done with a spirit of excellence in researching and reporting the facts! Multiple 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 for consistency in doing your job VERRRY WELL!!!!🤗🥳🤗
Hi Kevin. Only found you a short while ago. I watch several true crime channels and yours is as good and as thorough as those. I LOVE your opening graphics.
I click on JTL as soon as I see they post a new video. My absolute favorite crime story channel, have watched all they have posted & I have about 40 or so crime channels I’ve subscribed to! Kevin is awesome. As for this case, just sickened & horrified how this pos could be a childhood friend & just used their extreme kindness & love against them, such true, honest love & friendship is rare & this couple were the best example of that. Heartbroken for Nation, hope him & Jamie’s family find peace. Fly with God’s angels Jamie, you were a truly wonderful human being. 🙏❤️
New Subscriber here. Your stories are consistently riveting and well narrated. So many other true crime channels rely on AI and produce repetitive, emotionless crap. Keep up the great work.
Kevin. another great video. Thank you for all your work. I am an American Expat and live in Vietnam I look forward to each and every one of your Videos!!! All the best on the channel. I have told everyone that How great it is...
Kevin I've followed this channel since u started. I can't tell u how much better u got at this, the narration, the production quality..it seems u have come a long way with this channel and it shows. Great job, great content. I always look forward to ur videos. Thank u for ur hard work and dedication to ur craft 👍💯
Thanks Peter! Looking back at some of the older videos can be pretty rough, but it is nice seeing the progress we’ve made too. Appreciate the comment 🙂
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This guy didn't have cancer - he *was* the cancer.
Exactly!
Well stated.
Pathetic😮
Pathetic coward couldn't stand in the court
How do you know for sure? Miracles do happen. Is today according to that one kind of crowd a competition to come up with as many hand picked by them research subjects to verify their biases and prejudices more and more as time goes on while only beginning to doubt that what Jesus Christ said is not true because Satans empire has convinced them that if they believe all that Jesus Christ said that would mean they have to give up a lot of pleasure in life as if that was going to be their forever place to be?
The fact that he delayed their trip by an entire day made them waste their time and resources on him while he selfishly waddled about the hospital toying with their emotions the whole while It just burns me up how kind they were to him they did not deserve this
Can't even stand on his own two feet to face the court. Has to pretend he needs a wheelchair. What a pathetic coward.
I hope prison breaks him. No coddling there! 😅
Many predators do this. Harvey Weinstein used a walker when going to court and Bill Cosby had people to walk him in for “blindness” all to attempt that they are poor meek disabled men. It’s absurd. But they still try.
Having too many huge dinners he didn’t pay for!
Amen, he’s pathetic
People like Nation amaze me. To have something so devastating happen in spite of all the good they put into the world and to come through it still helping others... that's a good person right there. I hope he finds love and happiness again.
You are absolutely right!! He is a gorgeous, amazing, intelligent, compassionate man who lost his amazing wife and now still has the strength and perseverance to shine in this world!! 😊
What a despicable man. What a tragedy that the Hanh’s ever met him. RIP Jamie.
Dang,they unfortunately trusted all his lies. His soft spoken persona in court is another lie
The fact that Broyhill told police at the scene that the stabbing was "a long time coming" alone speaks to premeditation. Being betrayed by a friend has to be one of the worst kinds of murders.
Puts "stabbed in the back" to a whole "nother" level
much longer than a week
the fact that he brought a kitchen knife with him in his overnight bag speaks to premeditation more than anything this clown said
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim as you know the defense stated that he planned to commit suicide. (I know, lame like who stabs themselves?)
A very good point.
Many people wish they had good friends like this couple, and they can't find. And this guy absolutely destroys them.
That's what I was thinking. I can't pay to have friends like that, yet this user was lovingly supported when he gave nothing.
@@VioletJoy Just be thankful you don't have a "friend" like Jon. I did.
@@polkadots716 Yikes!!
@@polkadots716😳😫
He was broken long before he met them.
Here this loving couple welcomed this heartless man into their lives, only to later be traumatized by him. I can't even imagine the utter betrayal and confusion Jamie went through while being attacked by her "friend". This is beyond sick. My heart goes out to Nation and all who loved Jamie. 💔
Jealousy, envy !.. one must be mindful of everyone friends or not.
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Jon is right where he belongs. He premeditated the murder of human beings who had consistently shown him kindness & support.
His defense attorney is delusional to think he should ever be released. No amount of incarceration would magically change him from a self-centered, manipulative liar; into a decent, honest person.
Right where he belongs.
Yes. His attorney trying to make his intention of being in the kitchen with Jamie was to kill himself with the knife! Ridiculous
I can't believe how many murders are committed for these circumstances or for people lying about attending school or college.
Yes, there are family annihilators who killed because their lies were about to be discovered (Claude Romand in France, for instance). Difficult to understand how someone can be that narcissistic, vane, unloving and inhumane. .I find these people fascinating.
How he thought he’d get away with murdering them to cover his theft is beyond me. They had been there through thick and thin and the best he could do was to murder the wife and attempt to murder the best friend? May the remainder of his days be a constant reminder of Jamie’s face every time he closes his eyes. RIP, Jamie.
Reminds me of the Mark Twain quote: “If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and man.” It can be dangerous to help some people because they will only turn on you. I had a "friend" like that and I'm so glad she's out of my life now, but the emotional scars are still there. My heart goes out to Nation for his loss, and to Jamie for what she suffered in her last moments. 😢
He thought he was going to be slick, I guess. I am also amazed that he ever thought he’d succeed. Definitely a personality disorder going on here.
Also, Kevin, where’s your cat?
He finally found his resting place for life,and we the taxpayers have to pay for it.
I think he had sexual attraction towards Nation......
@@orionxtc1119 me too.
Its super convenient how 'memory loss' happens to almost all of these murderers just to excuse themselves of being guilty of what they did. They can remember everything in their whole lives but not the offense that put them in prison
I love it when a prosecutor brings this up during a trial. Prosecutor Martinez pointed it out to Jodi Arias during her trial for murdering Travis Alexander. She could remember everything (& I do mean EVERYTHING!) about the day of the murder, until she starts to stab him to death, that's where her mind goes oddly... blank. I get trauma and all, but you don't get to use that excuse for a PLANNED murder!!
Edit: If you ARE traumatized by your own PREMEDITATED actions, well then, you should've thought your actions through further than just the murder itself, shouldn't you?
Exactly!! They all have selective amnesia 🙄 no accountability
Exactly. These cowards don't ever think they will be found out and when they do, these money pro used lawyers enable them to no end because....they have rights too.
Ugh.
*money focused
@@A.Girl.Has.No.Name. it’s like that other guy who claimed PTSD for murdering a random girl he met at a bar… like, what.
That whole let’s hang out all the time constantly be together dynamic never ends well
Oh so true!! It’s too easy to exploit, sadly, the kindness of the pair who are predisposed to being understanding. In this case after Jonathan came out, it was a slippery slope of exploitation
For you 😂
Just the guys looks alone would make me suspicious of him. People are too trusting
A red flag that gets ignored often
Definitely agree!! Three is always toooo much company!! ALWAYS
Fantastic reporting! This channel is drastically underrated. I hope you obtain the success you deserve. Your stories are thought provoking, interesting and honest. Remain unbiased, don't interject your own opinions and you'll be golden!
Thanks for the support!
I concur, although frequently I would like to know what Kevin actually thinks about these cases. I mean this one was kind of a no-brainer, but the more controversial cases is what I'm referring to.
Criminally underrated, I'd say. 😉
I love the way you report on these stories as well. I agree that it’s an underrated channel!
I PEACEFULLY listen to very troubling stories due to your gentle soothing VOICE😌
There’s absolutely nothing redeemable in John he’s entirety negative
He has nothing positive to offer this world, not even behind bars.
There must have been something about him...these loving people cared for him. I personally see nothing reedemable about him.
@@donstaunch7895 I don't understand that draw to him. Maybe they just felt badly for him and wanted to be his friend. I can't imagine that they got anything out of that relationship, but I don't know.
So glad with is being punished. I must comment that that defense attorney with the gray hair is outstanding. 🙏🏾 So grateful his didn't get a lighter sentence, however, his attorney was fighting for him and that's what you would want on your side....just sayin 😉.
The one thing more repulsive than a murderer is a whining, spineless coward who murders. It's one thing to savagely take someone's life, it's something else when they try every trick in the book to impune their victim(s). It makes me physically ill.
Also, its lawyer repeating if it went to murder Jamie, why did it return the money? Simple, it returned the money to show goodwill, to try to lessen or hoodwink those lovely people into believing it was remorseful. It bought the knife because it knew full well what it was going to do. Revolting, filthy thing that it is.😡
Well, didn't he return the money though because he decided to change his plans on his ultimate destination... and still charged them for such??
It merely had the flight money refunded to their account so that it could then charge a TRAIN ticket on their card! Defense lawyers can be such sidewinders.
Yes!! Those were exactly my thoughts when that pathetic lawyer was saying that. He was gaslighting the jury. Ugh. 🤢🤮 The horrible part is that some
idi0tic jurors believe that nonsense, so that's why scum lawyers like this use those tactics.
@@loveforeignaccents Had to delete post after I got the IQ abbreviation wrong : (
Will work on my apparent laziness too...
@@houseofsolomon2440 As well as hopefully realizing your "worst/worse" grammatical error... it's always good to learn! And, yes, laziness is not a thing most people want to aspire to; horrible "quality", if we can even call it that.
One thing we can agree on, Jon is a longtime, practiced liar. Believe anything that comes out of his mouth at your own risk.
Sociopaths look for empathetic people to use, as those that are kind understand that people make mistakes and will give the benefit of the doubt. How horrible for this young couple, to be victims of this perp.
Absolutely! I have come across a couple of people like this and they are VERY good at lies. And, when confronted, more lies come so easy. They prey on kind people and will be chameleons when it comes to mirroring behavior/personality/likes and dislikes.
I bet he's a victim on a regular basis 😂
He’s such a punk loser. He’s been a fat loser his whole life miserable and mad so he developed the life of a scammer. Taking advantage of nice people. Anyone who is willing to stab himself because he got found out is a demon…
Jaime and Nasion were a young couple, not many years on this earth to spot someone so devious
Absolutely.
This scumbag loser planned this murder 2 weeks in advance and admits he killed her. He should have been given the death penalty. What a disgusting man.
May Jamie rest in peace and my condolences to her family and Nation. You can't trust anyone anymore.
Isn't it sad how good & kind people are often targeted by absolute filth.
Was the DP on the table here?
@@loveforeignaccentsif not hopefully the death penalty is executed in prison justice
@@jasonstaples4364 Fingers crossed!
@@jasonstaples4364yep
WHAT A HORRIBLE PERSON!!!!! HURTING PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED YOU THROUGH THICK AND THIN!!!! life in prison please!!!!
I think with that guy it's just through thick and thicker
One of the worst betrayals I've heard of! Despicable human being! I think he had feelings for Nation so some jealousy could be partly the motive beside money fraud!
I believe that was part of it, as well!
I hadn't thought of that, but it makes sense.
I wondered the same.
I’m thinking the same thing. He has/had feelings for the husband.
Definitely jealousy. Three is a crowd.
Doing this to someone so kind to you is straight up as evil as it gets
Sadly, you are not wrong......
I don't keep friends that add absolutely no value to my life. It has to be a two way street. This loser took advantage of his friends and attacked them when they figured him out.
People used to call it selfish. I have damaged so much of my life helping one way streets. Now i dont care. Its NO.
@@Lena-so2lq It is selfish, but it's a dangerous world.
@@novelist99Not letting people walk all over you isn’t selfish, it’s self-preservation. Sucking the resources and energy out of other people is selfish.
I don't over support people. I will help them some but not enough that they rely solely on me.
@@Lena-so2lq when you go back to square one you will wonder why nobody helps you
Despicable. This guy was smart enough to pull off financial crimes & he knew the end was near. He knew he was going to have to answer for enormous disparities in financial info. No psychosis going on there. Watching him being pushed around in a wheelchair, disgusting.
Totally agree I have a friend who is treated for this illness and only ever does good I think he was a jealous greedy nasty individual who planned this using mental health as a lever he knew exactly what he was doing glad he got life Rip to that poor lady
You said it! Jon is a big, soft, loser. And he knew it. Lying about various “illnesses” (disgusting) comes out of the closet, a lazy oaf, a user - a real piece of trash.
Hope he’s now someone’s special friend in the slammer. He looks like he’d make a nice, soft, special friend. Loving all those “soap drops “ in the showers aren’t ya, Jon!
He knew he'd be found out, he didn't have to murder anyone, least of all Jamie who was such a precious friend.
How does he stay so fat on prison rations?
It would be interesting if someone did some digging into Jon's background to see if he has ever embezzled and/or manipulated anyone else, or if any suspicious deaths occurred. I would be very surprised if this was the first time he had done this to someone.
I thought of that too...he's a real parasite.
I appreciate your calm and reasoned reporting style. Thank you Kevin!
As always, excellent content Kevin. Edit - again, you’ve dived into a new and complex case for us, you are so appreciated!
Thanks badass!
@@JustThoughtLounge LOL, the way you addressed her gave me a much-needed chuckle after watching this one!
@@loveforeignaccentsit's part of the channel name, nothing else
@@ElaAusDemTal LOL, no shit, Sherlock!
Jamie and Nation were an extremely compassionate couple, only to be betrayed. Let that thing ROT!
Kevin, you are such a good presenter. Narrating effectively is not a gift equally bestowed! I really enjoy your episodes, and watch them even when I'm familiar with the case. Thank you.
Before i watch it, i would like to mention, JustThoughtLounge is my favorite crime story channel, i just love watching it, especially like now, it`s Sunday, i just came from Gym, made lunch, sat down to eat, then i see the Notification from JustThoughtLounge, the timing is perfect.
Thank you brother, you doing excellent job bringing new and updated crime stories to us.
Cheers.
How arrogant to just assume that your "very good friends" would forgive lying about cancer, embezzlement from Jamie's boss and stealing from them.
Well, it seems he knew their good-hearted nature quite well. I wouldn't doubt they wouldn't have forgiven him just by the type of people they seemed to be. Also, Jamie was the boss.
I always look forward to your shows. Thank you from South Africa 🇿🇦❣️
Much love from Texas…. Good afternoon South Africa!
Just Thought Lounge... my kinda people. Great channel. 🎉❤🎉 Thank you, Kevin, for honoring the memories of the victims.
I lost my brother to murder when he was 26, so your channel is a place I come to understand why someone had to take away my brother. All this time has passed and I'm still in pain. 💔 Everytime a family gets justice, I feel a little less sad. ❤
So sorry to hear about your brother but glad we can provide some comfort. Appreciate you being here and the kind words.
I'm sorry for your loss,
I wish I could take away your pain.
Sorry for your loss. I'm glad you're finding ways to feel less sad.
Geez, I'm so sorry for your loss. I couldn't imagine having to deal with the loss of my (only) sibling, but especially in such a horrific way. I hope you have been able to find some sort of semblance of peace and remember all of the good times you were able to share together. 💟
A question to the defense why would you to your friends' house to commit suicide? Why?
He went there to murder them to cover up his lies
exactly....why?
Defense attorneys like him who invent stories and lies belong behind bars, IMO. Thank God for intelligent and moral judges, like the one in this case. (Not all judges deserve to wear the robe)
Defense attorneys have to treat their clients as though they are innocent, or are remorseful. It's a basic requirement.
Why? The guy already faked 3 illnesses so it was probably another attempt to gain attention or sympathy, knowing he was about to be exposed. My "cry for help" will make this nice couple forgive me, but maybe she wasn't buying it this time so he snapped because he finally felt cornered. Nation could've debunked or confirmed when the "suicide" attempt took place however. Were his wrists already cut when he fought off his attack? That detail was missing.
I am also wondering if there could be some deep-seated jealousy toward Jamie for his attraction to Nation....
Hmmm, interesting take.
Very interesting. I'll bet you're right.
I thought the same.
Not far-fetched.
And he's gay and spends the rest of his life in jail, 3 meals a day, a bed and a roof over his head.
Half way through and suspect Jon is in love with Nate……
This is so tragic, poor Jamie, she was such a special lady
Imagine being killed by the the man that stood as best man at your wedding. That is wild.
Not all liars are killers but all killers are liars.
Why
That's cute. And false.
Piece of crap, that guy. Poor Jamie and Nation. Two sweet people that fell for this subhuman and his lies. Disgusting. All the tears they shed and all the time they gave up for this beast. wow. God bless you, Nation. What a horrible ordeal.
Love your channel , you are so well spoken and direct and clear . Your content is over the top needing to be out and exposed. Never heard of this case . Thank you for all your hard work and research. I even love your background ( soothing and nostalgic)
So glaci found your channel 👍🏼keep on keeping on
The lesson here is that you never ever let a third person into your marriage. Always keep them at arms length and out of your personal life. Marriage is hard enough without having a large lump of shit stuck in the middle of it.
That's the wisest advice I've seen in a long time. You're giving the advice columnists some serious competition.
They let him into some financial areas that I would have barred as well.
He should have been given the death penalty!!
Such a great channel....thank you from Wales 🏴
Hey there Wales…. Good afternoon from Texas!
I'm I'm Berkshire, UK 🇬🇧
Such a awful shocking story. Such loving people. What a terrible guy John was.
Jaime was absolutely adorable! 😢
You know zero about any of these people
met at church they wont tell this story on fox news,,,,
Political strategists are inherently evil
Planned, not planned!? Who cares? He killed her!!! She is dead. In the ground. Nothing for her but a very long and very lonely stay in the friggin cemetery. These defence lawyers make me sick
Lol. May you never need a defense lawyer. Their job is to defend the client. It might not be pretty or glorious but it has to be done. Also, there needs to be a distinction for various types of murder.
I know what you're saying, but you're not going to be a very successful defense attorney if you sympathize with the victims and work against your clients xD.
his yelling is so annoying.. sounds drunk😩
Please never stop posting on Sundays. I love your videos. I got That Chapter on Tuesday and Friday. Coffeehouse Crime on Monday and Thursday. And JTL on Sunday. Love what you do Kevin!!!
I follow this channel as well as those channels too!
We'll see if we can fill that Wednesday gap for you at some point 👍
Me too. Plus 10 to Life
No one to watch on Saturdays? Give Truly Criminal a try... I'm sure you won't be disappointed!
@@JustThoughtLounge Can we get an ETA on that, please?!? Can't wait!!!
Hey, Kevin! Thank you for another fantastic video. ❤ I watch a ton of true crime videos and yours is one of my all time favorites!
Thanks Theresa!
Always so happy for a new upload from JTL. Thank you.
Never allow a third wheel into your inner cycle. So sorry for the couple whose only fault was compassion, kindness and care for their 'friend' 😢. May your wife rest in peace 🙏
You don't know anything about any of them
He was an outcast for a reason. No good deed goes unpunished
Wtf kinda comment is that? A couple shouldn’t have single friends???
I have to agree with your first sentence, being the 3rd wheel brings out the worst in people.
@@Synthpoptroubadour being a third wheel is a bit different to just being a friend
Lord these people were the truest friends a man could wish for! What on earth! I have no words.
He was 41? I guess that's what evil does to a person. Looks way older. Never bring a third party into a marriage. It's hard enough with two.
He was 31 at the time, I believe, which only confirms that he in fact looked way older than he actually was.
As an aside, look how horribly Lori Vallow Daybell has aged behind bars... definitely evil spewing out of her pores.
@loveforeignaccents I thought I heard 41 in the narration. If he was 31, I don't know what to think. Vallow-Daybell looks like 10 miles of bad road. No access to botox, paint, and spackle in prison is my guess.
@@peggystoutemorin4529They said he's 41 now but was 31 when he did it
@@wanderingseth Then I guess the evil really did a number on him. How do you look like that at 31?
@@peggystoutemorin4529 by making daily bad choices, based on a complete lack of self-love or self-discipline
I would get tired of a 3rd wheel always there and needy. And it's just weird no matter who you are to be attaching yourself to a married couple. And a nightmare for the couple. Like a child following them, and it's not even theirs. They definitely should have thought something was off with their chubby pal. I hate that had to happen to her. When someone wants to be that involved with their friends, I'd be rethinking that situation.
Well, to be fair, they were in their twenties. I don't think most people at that age think that others have a motive or agenda, especially when they were so loving and kind-hearted themselves. For people like Nation and Jaime, I think they would find it implausible that people could be anything other than what they were/the way they were, so selfless and having such unconditional love.
Once one gets older, perhaps they see reality for what it is. At least that has been my experience.
Yes, there is something off about a person who just hangs out with a couple, and they were too inexperienced to see that until it was too late.
Yeah this lady was too nice. Literally any other woman would start considering divorce if you insisted your buddy lived with you
@@TonyDanza4Lyfe Don't know where you came up with that speculation. He was going to spend the night one night when he had a supposed early doctor's appointment the next day.
@@TonyDanza4Lyfehe didn't live with them
Thanks for another great video.
What I love about your channel is the amount of clips and footage you get of each story and edit so well into your videos. Also getting straight to the facts of the case and no filler. Awesome content hope you rise to the top
✨️Thank you for covering a case that hasn't been done a thousand times✨️
I’m always struck by your skilful story telling, the pace and clarity is top class as is the editing. Thank you
This tragedy is very similar to the famous story of “The Snake”. Be careful who you bring close to you and your loved ones.
Several things come to mind,biting the hand that feeds you,snake in the grass.just an evil
I'm so tired of this world in which those most full of light and love are lost far too soon.
My heart hurt listening to Nation address the defendant. They were so good to him!
Can anyone be trusted anymore? 😢 What an awful person. John murdered Jaime, someone who honestly cared for him and helped him, and the family trusted him. And for John to lie about his alleged medical issues...taking advantage of the family's kindness. It's disgusting of John.
No
It's hard to know who you can trust. Alot of people have their own agenda.
@@terrymintle7230yeah tell me abt it, but it's hard not to be able to trust anyone, not even your own flesh & blood
That’s being the devil’s advocate, some would say. Sorry but don’t trust a fat person. I know not every fat person is untrustworthy and I’m slightly overweight myself but the fact that you cannot be disciplined when you’re eating can be a sign.
@@aridyaacob3172 Your ignorance is astonishing.
Absolutely tragic.
I briefly crossed paths with Nation professionally. I had no idea this was in his past. Poor guy.
If you have a friend that has no life , no girlfriend, no house , bad health , no car etc , you might want to look at them closley because they probably hate your guts
In this case no boyfriend, but you're right. I walked away from one such friend who, at the time, was unemployed, miserable with her life, and couldn't celebrate and was taking it out on guess who?
True.
If you have a family member that no nothing going on in their lives, they are going to hate your guts too. Stay away from them.
@@Chaneldavis779 Sage advice, thank you
What a small minded way to think about people
I think Jon was in love with Nation and stayed close to the couple to be near Nation. As he became more jealous and depressed, realizing Nation would never love him romantically, Jon had a gradual mental breakdown as evidenced by his escalating criminal behavior.
Yes!! I just commented this under another reply. This John gives me very strong gay vibes and I suspect he was jealous of her....
Exactly 😢
He was a gay man, already came out as such. But who knows if he was pining for Nate...
He was a disgusting catamite. That would be a difficult theory
Wow what a pos. The couple were awesome and supporting friends for him. Crazy.
It's always the person was mental, and this is why he committed the crime. How about it's because he was envious of his friends, or because he was an evil person?
Another unknown case to me delivered by Kev, its so rare to find a case i dont know. Thank you for the amount of research you must have put in and for telling it in your professional unique way mate. God bless Kevin, wife, and 2 adorable little doges 🐶 🐶 ❤
Thanks for being here, glad you're enjoying the channel...I was surprised this one didn't have more coverage when I came across it 👍
I had never heard of this case either, and I've watched thousands.
No blessings bestowed upon his cat, Newton? 😋
@@VioletJoy Kevin has a knack for finding/covering these lesser-known cases, unlike other YTubers who cover the same old sh*t ad nauseam.
@@loveforeignaccents Many blessings to Newton...and treats!!😸
The comment by the guy who says that if your so called friend has no job,, no girlfriend Etc,,Etc-- is the best statement I've seen and he never lied..!! These types of people are so envious and jealous of your success.!! Great comment.!!
This case shows it's not a good idea to give a friend jobs and every sort of support, without considering how resentment and jealousy may become their primary emotion toward you. We may really want to help others but most of it is up to them.
Why would one not try to help out their friends... or who they believe(d) to be their friends?
You wouldn't think people would become resentful and jealous of someone who helps them, but that's the way sociopaths operate. They form no true emotional attachments; they only view other people as pawns to reach their own selfish goals.
@@polkadots716 Glad I don't have any of those sort of people in my life! How absolutely terrifying!
@@loveforeignaccents I'm glad you don't have any of those sorts in your life, too. I had one enter my life a few years ago and my life became a living nightmare. 😧
Made me think about Selena RIP
I don’t believe a word coming out of his mouth. None of his motives made any sense. He’s just a compulsive liar.
Ghastly case, what an awful person and what a terrible act to murder this dear lady who was his friend.
Sentence brilliant and will give him time to mull over what he lost.
RIP Jamie, you tried so very hard to please.
He was such an obvious loser from the start. Maybe it was a maternal thing with Jamie.
Nation was helping him too. Good people help their friends.
Losers are magnets of misfortune avoid bringing them into your life
You never know who your friends really are...very sad and horrifying.
Oh, believe me, I know who mine are. That's why I can count them on one hand.
I found out who my real friends were when I, unlike this lowlife, went through cancer treatment.
@@halfassfashion Hope you beat it!!
:O
You are so right, now days you really don't know who your friends are you can't trust no one, sad what happen to two sweet people.
As always, your video was excellent... Joh is a despicable man and is now where he belongs, he is a danger to everybody... RIP Jamie and Courage to Nation and families
Anyone else cried when the husband said what he said to Jon? 😭
So sad poor man.
I need to go find the full victim impact statement from him... it's good to shed all of your tears every so often.
Wild.
The disease that Jon has is of the heart, what a rotten depraved thing he has done to his friends.
I trust myself, my dog, my cats and my mum. That's what I will live with. No friends, ever.
John came out of the closet, had a crush on Nation and then killed his competitor, too bad that poor Jamie did not use her woman intuition, I think she was so kind of a person. The point is kindness has a dark side and this story demonstrate this fact. RIP Jamie.
I have never heard about this case before and I live about an hour away. Thank you for covering it.
I live where this happened!
I love your JTL show!
❤
Once again - a good deed never goes unpunished
Well, this guy is somewhat out of the normal.
Unfortunately, yes.
Avoid the strays, the unlucky, and the unfortunate. They are strays for a reason.
@@ArtfulDodger566 Thanks for the reminder!!
@@ArtfulDodger566The world would be 10 times worse, if people actually followed that way of thinking.
LOVE your videos!!! They're done with a spirit of excellence in researching and reporting the facts! Multiple 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 for consistency in doing your job VERRRY WELL!!!!🤗🥳🤗
Great channel. Great stories. Great presentation. Thank you Kevin.
He was an odd 3rd wheel choice to have around, imo.
So if he was thin and good looking that would make him a better murderer?
Hi Kevin. Only found you a short while ago. I watch several true crime channels and yours is as good and as thorough as those. I LOVE your opening graphics.
Thanks! Glad you found us 😀
Wow-- Jon is heartless and useless. Sad-- what a best friend will do to you. RIP, Nation and Jamie. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
"RIP, Nation"? He survived his injuries, obviously.
yes Nation is still alive
I click on JTL as soon as I see they post a new video. My absolute favorite crime story channel, have watched all they have posted & I have about 40 or so crime channels I’ve subscribed to! Kevin is awesome. As for this case, just sickened & horrified how this pos could be a childhood friend & just used their extreme kindness & love against them, such true, honest love & friendship is rare & this couple were the best example of that. Heartbroken for Nation, hope him & Jamie’s family find peace. Fly with God’s angels Jamie, you were a truly wonderful human being. 🙏❤️
Great upload, Kevin. Stay safe, Everyone!
Thanks... you stay safe as well, Jessica!
New Subscriber here. Your stories are consistently riveting and well narrated. So many other true crime channels rely on AI and produce repetitive, emotionless crap. Keep up the great work.
Wow! What a warped story! Well told. Very sad
Kevin. another great video. Thank you for all your work. I am an American Expat and live in Vietnam I look forward to each and every one of your Videos!!! All the best on the channel. I have told everyone that How great it is...
Everybody suffers with depression & Anxiety!!! ......WE DON'T KILL THOUGH!!
So true
Exactly. We all have free will, no matter what mental condition you can get a shrink to diagnose you with.
I just love your videos. Thank you for another awesome case. ❤
The police deserve to update that video quality. It’s worse than 1980’s home movies.
Beta max! 😂😂
Agreed! I was like, "What year was this...??" LOL
Jonathan looks like he is 60 years old.
Hell yes, he does!!
Jon is a classic narcissist.
Perfect narration. I love your Channel. Thank you, love from Denmark.
Another great video. Love from South Africa
Good afternoon Africa much love from Texas!
Kevin I've followed this channel since u started.
I can't tell u how much better u got at this, the narration, the production quality..it seems u have come a long way with this channel and it shows.
Great job, great content.
I always look forward to ur videos.
Thank u for ur hard work and dedication to ur craft 👍💯
Thanks Peter! Looking back at some of the older videos can be pretty rough, but it is nice seeing the progress we’ve made too. Appreciate the comment 🙂
Thanks for reporting this story. I had not heard of this case before
Hello Kevin. After watching some of your videos. I dived into them , and then I am a new subscriber. Love from France.
Great to hear Eve! Welcome to the channel 🙂