How fasting can impact sleep | Peter Attia, M.D. & Matthew Walker, Ph.D.

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  • @elektras6325
    @elektras6325 Рік тому +76

    I’m doing 36hour fast! I slept 1hour and I’m wide awake now at midnight!!! 😩😩😩😩😩😩

    • @jogoeire
      @jogoeire Рік тому +8

      Me to. 36 hour fast caused two nights no sleep. Nightmare. Cancels out health benefits

    • @yanickp9973
      @yanickp9973 Рік тому +7

      @@jogoeireno it actually does not cancel out the fast benefits, it’s just a natural by product, but your body has already healed a lot during the fasting days. I’m goong through the same sleepless nights now, and weirdly I don’t feel tired haha

    • @marucalame
      @marucalame Рік тому +3

      Same happens to me 😖😖😖

    • @Three-Chord-Trick
      @Three-Chord-Trick Рік тому +3

      Yes. Same here. 😮

    • @GrandisUtu
      @GrandisUtu Рік тому +4

      Go pray or meditate.

  • @lanaleksandra
    @lanaleksandra Рік тому +15

    Im a light/sensitive sleeper by nature. I was supposed to do a 36h fast yesterday. I went to sleep (with a melatonin pill since i knew what may happen) around 11pm and woke up 1.30am. No matter what i did I could not fall back to sleep. I tried sleeping music, tried guided sleeping meditation and also read a book. Nothing worked. So i decided to break the fast with one strawberry and warm oat milk. I fell back asleep around 6:30am and woke up around 11am feeling so sleep deprived that it totally ruined my morning. My heart was pounding strong, had inner trembling and was mentally and physically unrested.
    Ive always slept bad on fasted days, but will do only 24h fasts from now on. Feeling like this and ruining the following day is almost not worth it.

  • @ifh4030
    @ifh4030 2 роки тому +38

    I'm happy to get this information as well. I've done two week fasts at least 7 or 8 times and especially during the first 10 days I will wake up in the middle of the night feeling like I have boundless energy. This seems to drop off for me roughly after days 8 through 10.
    I've experimented a bit and if I do nothing but lie in bed I can usually be back asleep within 45 minutes to an hour but I'm quite restless as I feel an urge to exercise.
    Alternatively, I can get in some pretty good workouts just using lighter weight kettlebells than I normally would. When I've done this I end up staying awake for about 90 minutes on average.
    Another very interesting observation is that not only do I need only 6 hours sleep to feel great throughout the day (8 normally) but as soon as I wake up I am clear-headed. Normally I'm foggy minded for at least a minute or so. This is true for every single day that I wake up fasted after about day 2. The clear headedness throughout the day is actually one of the best effects for me.

    • @dzivri
      @dzivri Рік тому +3

      Can you give an update on the sleep, energy, and clearheadedness since you posted the comment?
      Seems like I’m experiencing exactly the same things you did. The thing that motivates me so much about fasting is the fact that for the first time in my life I feel like I don’t need coffee, and I’m clear headed, focused and sharp throughout the day.
      Up until I started fasting I was lethargic, and my work and social lives were suffering as a result. This all changed within a couple of weeks!
      Still, the fact that I get little sleep concerns me and I’m interested to know if you are still going through that.

    • @joesmith8462
      @joesmith8462 Рік тому

      that 'drop off' is good. It means your dying, not fasting. Try and go a bit further next time for max benefit to us. 🤞

  • @cherryl225
    @cherryl225 2 роки тому +19

    i had a 72 hr fast in which i caught only 2 hours of sleep during the first 30 hrs, and i was full of energy and mentally sharp all day, as long as i was occupied. i didnt feel sleep deprived. ive felt so much worse fed with adequate sleep.

    • @soniczforever5470
      @soniczforever5470 Рік тому

      I don't fast but eat 500 cals a day for weeks my sleep is tough enough. I got too heavy so I've fasted since mid February. Will have to raise cals eventually very difficult though

    • @mmalithefather1472
      @mmalithefather1472 Рік тому

      This is my 3rd day (last day) of a 72 hr fast and I can’t sleep at all! I have a terrible headache and I can’t tell if it’s from food/sugar withdrawals or from lack of sleep or both smh

    • @Phuong_Nguyen_
      @Phuong_Nguyen_ Рік тому

      @@soniczforever5470500 cals a day omad?

    • @Conversations-o7n
      @Conversations-o7n 9 місяців тому

      It is too high cortisol/adrenaline

  • @clumsycatbird8794
    @clumsycatbird8794 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for sharing Doctors Attia and Walker.
    BEST SLEEP HACK for me has been walking 60-90 minutes, 4-5 days/week starting close to DAWN - mostly hilly bush-land and I consume around 1 liter of water during this time.
    Since starting I have to go to bed around 8:30pm most nights, asleep with 1-2 minutes and wake up somewhere 4am-5am. Other things include excellent diet of 1-2 meals per day, medium-intense cycling 2-3 hrs 4 days/week, 3-4 hrs resistance training per week, no caffeine/alcohol most days, 2-3 liters water per day and lights out around 8:pm then watch a candle flame in my office until bedtime, however these alone still saw an erratic 4-6 hrs. I'm 62yo, 10% body fat with average GKI of 1. In 6 months, I've gone from obese, very high blood pressure and feeling very old to 120 over 80 with similar well being and physique of my 20s.
    I hope this data may be of use to others.

    • @JasonActualization
      @JasonActualization Рік тому

      Amazing. Do you have to pee at any point overnight?

    • @clumsycatbird8794
      @clumsycatbird8794 Рік тому

      @@JasonActualization sleep has adjusted to around 9pm, working on water intake as still wake to pee 1-2 nights a week.

    • @JasonActualization
      @JasonActualization Рік тому

      @@clumsycatbird8794 Same for me. I keep a bottle bedside and void into that so I don't even need to leave my bed overnight, enabling me to return to sleep with ease.

    • @clumsycatbird8794
      @clumsycatbird8794 Рік тому

      @@JasonActualization Thank you for sharing, very good point about keeping a bottle of water nearby, I have a dual filter on the kitchen tap for this. I mostly sleep through and only use it once I get up and do stretching exercises to start the day but it's there when I need it. As you say, having water next to the bed makes it far easier to plan hydration, just another thing to help with peace of mind.

    • @Conversations-o7n
      @Conversations-o7n 9 місяців тому

      Damn what is wrong with people 😮​@@JasonActualization

  • @bic447
    @bic447 7 місяців тому +1

    I recently completed a 36-hour water fast, and I must say, it was an amazing experience. Undertaking such a fast requires careful preparation in terms of consuming the right nutrients and eating well-balanced meals beforehand. After completing my fast, I went for a brisk walk of a couple of miles. However, my legs were feeling weak and sore, so I made sure to refuel my body with nutritious vegetables and lean protein for dinner.
    Given my lean physique, I am considering adopting a new approach to fasting. The benefits of water fasting are truly significant and should not be overlooked. Improved mental clarity and a healthier body are achievable goals for most individuals. Engaging in deep meditation or prayer can greatly enhance concentration during the fasting period.
    Looking ahead, I am eager to attempt longer fasts lasting 20 days or more in the coming years, provided I have the opportunity to do so. I firmly believe that water fasting holds immense potential for overall well-being and I am excited to explore its benefits further.

  • @sidjohnson1776
    @sidjohnson1776 2 роки тому +13

    So glad i found this vdo bcz i am on 3rd day of my 7 day fast n for the last two nights i wakeup at 2:30am and cant sleep afterwards at all n i fee miserable 😖

    • @jreavestheleader8255
      @jreavestheleader8255 Рік тому +5

      Wen you wake up pray God is telling you to pray

    • @TearDownThisWall
      @TearDownThisWall 11 місяців тому

      @@jreavestheleader8255 Yesterday was day 1 of a week long fast for me, didn't get 1 minute of sleep last night. I prayed God, please, just 3 hours of sleep, to no avail.

    • @Zoe-dr5ps
      @Zoe-dr5ps Місяць тому

      ​@@jreavestheleader8255i think he's telling me to eat more during the day. But also to pray more definitely.

    • @gustavojc
      @gustavojc Місяць тому

      I broke my fast at 3:00 am... 😅. I was in the third day, would already brake the fast in the following day, but sleep depravation made me do it earlier

  • @yanickp9973
    @yanickp9973 Рік тому +9

    Happening to me right now. 2 days ago I finished my first ever 36-hour fast. Starting the day 1 of fasting, until roght now, my sleep has been almos non existent, but when I wake up, I still don’t feel tired or sleepy or anything. Very weird, but I miss the long sleeping nights though.

    • @marym3355
      @marym3355 9 місяців тому

      because the cortisol is up.

  • @bradmir1718
    @bradmir1718 8 місяців тому +2

    I found taking electrolytes mainly magnesium powder in water really helps me go to sleep and stay asleep. It also doesn’t break the fast or remove its benefits. I personally also need to avoid b vitamins before bed but it’s liquid form in the morning is really nice 👍

  • @theonlyjamiebourgeois9703
    @theonlyjamiebourgeois9703 6 місяців тому +2

    My sleep gets soooooo bad when fasting 😫
    Even after doing it for many years. Got worse with age. 🤬

  • @jordanreed7
    @jordanreed7 2 роки тому +14

    Decided to fast for the first time, just woke up on my 6th day wondering exactly this and here you are at the top of my yt feed answering my questions. Shit, am i the main character?

    • @augustinascobotas8724
      @augustinascobotas8724 2 роки тому +4

      *Skyrim music playing in background* Never underestimate the rest. I will be going now.

  • @Modern-Renaissance-Man
    @Modern-Renaissance-Man 11 місяців тому +6

    I've been intermittent fasting for 11 years and can not sleep past 5 hours. Wake fully refreshed and full of energy. Crazy right?!

    • @healthyinformation
      @healthyinformation 8 місяців тому

      thats crazy

    • @RNathan-nm3mc
      @RNathan-nm3mc Місяць тому

      Been doing Intermittent Fasting for 2+ months.....Have noticed same thing....Cannot sleep past 5 hours but wake refreshed with energy

  • @sjacrane
    @sjacrane Рік тому +2

    What does Matt mean around 7:34 when he says that the brain does more in a shorter period of time? Does more of what? Also why is it not sustainable and what are the long term implications of daily intermittent fasting in order to be able to sleep from say 9 hours (of broken sleep) to around seven hours or less of good quality deep sleep?

  • @Esther216
    @Esther216 2 роки тому +16

    Yup. Fasting one meal a day only, 3 months now. Was sleeping 8/9 hrs...now I don't fall Sleep for hrs and only get 3/4 hrs sleep. Why I looked this up. I must say.... I'm functioning ok.... not having fatigue I was having not fasting...so... just get used to it I guess.... I Def do not want to give up fasting. I'm finally losing weight at 57

  • @Lacehairwigs
    @Lacehairwigs 3 місяці тому +1

    On omad i sleep around 6 hours straight and wake up feeling refreshed and energised.

  • @android584
    @android584 2 роки тому +8

    Finally some kind of insightful explanation. I assumed it was cortisol, which may contribute to insomnia as well in my case. I think with any future long fasting (eg. 72 hours) I'll cut back on coffee and focus more on self care to lower stress levels.

    • @PaintDryLifting
      @PaintDryLifting Рік тому

      even OMAD/IF absolutely destroys my sleep quality, and drives my IGF1 down to dangerous levels. So I don't fast anymore and I'm back to 8 hours with enough deep and REM sleep

  • @AGL23
    @AGL23 9 місяців тому +2

    I feel like I need to add to this. I’ve started fasting 12 hours everyday…just for 3 days. I kept walking up during the night, and I worked up at 4am. I’ve NEVER had this happen because I’m a deep sleeper. So…. This is interesting. I’m kind of tired…but we’ll see how this turns out.

  • @nanaa428
    @nanaa428 4 місяці тому +1

    im 77 hours into my 96 hour fast and i cannot sleep😔 my sleep is absolutely terrible when i do manage to sleep

  • @dzivri
    @dzivri Рік тому +8

    I remember Dr. Walker being adamant about the absolute necessity of getting 7+ hours of sleep.
    From this video here, I still don’t get whether he concludes that it’s ok to get less sleep when fasting

    • @last_flower.
      @last_flower. 10 місяців тому +1

      He said it's not sustainable

  • @Blessednesting
    @Blessednesting 11 місяців тому +4

    What about doing IF typically 16/8? My sleep has become worse since I began daily fasting since this last September. Female/41

    • @Awan_Senja_Purnama2
      @Awan_Senja_Purnama2 4 місяці тому

      But i dont feel tired or not healthy even if i do only sleep for 5 hours max in IF

  • @Masfugo
    @Masfugo 3 місяці тому

    I do OMAD for almost a year now
    it is true I go to bed around 9-10 and often wake up around 3am
    BUT man the sleep feel so good. I wake up feel so refreshed
    and my day definitely more energetic despite "low amount" of sleep
    I dont really mind about short sleep anymore, I just take it as more time to do things in the morning
    in fact
    when on days that I eat more than often, my sleep were poor and I wake up way later

  • @googoo554
    @googoo554 2 роки тому +2

    Brilliant video and information, thank you so much

  • @jayvid9044
    @jayvid9044 2 роки тому +12

    Thank you for the informative video, but this doesn’t give us any tips on how to sleep better during a fast. I’m aware that’s Seratonin production is influenced by carbs…. Maybe a certain number of carbs from a natural juice or something…. So if on water fast you’d be breaking it a smidge, but at least a person could keep the carbs lower and stay off of solid food. Those people that email and say they can’t sustain a fast due to poor sleep during a fast are really wanting some sort of advice to take away from this.

    • @gregthomas6637
      @gregthomas6637 2 роки тому +2

      same here !

    • @n.s.5278
      @n.s.5278 Рік тому

      My sense is that you need to up your calories, not the carbs. Do that by healthy fats or nuts.

  • @beverleycumming1876
    @beverleycumming1876 Рік тому +5

    Love Matthews book!! The evolution reference is nonsense…just acknowledge we are wonderfully made…

    • @gison8405
      @gison8405 Рік тому +1

      Beautifully said
      🌱⚘️🪻🌷🌱

    • @TearDownThisWall
      @TearDownThisWall 11 місяців тому +2

      Evilution, literally impossible, and the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind.

  • @dadlord689
    @dadlord689 Рік тому +2

    I have only bad experience with fasting. Probably the issue is that I don't have toxins to clean out so there is no reason to sleep, but I tried to sleep to avoid cravings. Fasting sucks overall, but it yet helps with mood (you don't feel that sad in any way, you just hungry).

  • @allyslicer
    @allyslicer 10 місяців тому +2

    Ive slept 23 hours over the last 2 days. Crazy much. Never had this happen to me before 😅

  • @trish91770
    @trish91770 2 місяці тому +1

    Im on day three but I haven't slept for two days...

  • @uelude
    @uelude 2 роки тому +11

    I'm sure cortisol or adrenaline has a part to play. The needs a deeper dive with a neurochemistry specialist

  • @TearDownThisWall
    @TearDownThisWall 11 місяців тому +1

    I spent a month preparing for an extended fast. Started the fast yesterday, and couldn't sleep a wink last night, not even 1 minute of sleep. So discouraging, ready to say, the hell with this.

    • @GrowthwithMercedes
      @GrowthwithMercedes 5 місяців тому

      Lmao 😂. Yes Definitely having trouble falling a sleep n then when I do awaken again maybe an hour or 2 later

  • @TruMyous
    @TruMyous 6 місяців тому +1

    I do hve sleep depriviation for an overnigjt fast.

  • @marchorsting8059
    @marchorsting8059 2 роки тому +5

    sleep 4 hours wake up in 30 seconds with amazing energy

  • @ayredantara6838
    @ayredantara6838 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this information. I have a doubt. What if I am not sleeping well because a multi-day fasting and I feel terrible at the same time? Thanks

  • @KentinoChenevert
    @KentinoChenevert Рік тому +1

    So is it good or bad

  • @Caramelinfused
    @Caramelinfused 4 місяці тому +1

    I’m wide awakeeeee someone come close my eyes 😭😭😭

  • @goktugyil
    @goktugyil 11 місяців тому +1

    He explained why. But what are we supposed to do?

  • @Phill456-n6h
    @Phill456-n6h 8 місяців тому

    Can one dry fast for 24h if he is very underweight, with prolonged insomnia and sudden removal of sleep and depression medications?

  • @inluminatiomea9889
    @inluminatiomea9889 Рік тому

    Fantastic. But what to do about it?

  • @AllWordsAreDust
    @AllWordsAreDust 5 місяців тому

    Does fasting or calorie restriction make anyone else sleep MORE?

  • @addsyeast9108
    @addsyeast9108 10 місяців тому +3

    I am up like a crackhead when I fast

    • @soniczforever5470
      @soniczforever5470 9 місяців тому +1

      😂 sorry that was hilarious im not much better though

  • @soniczforever5470
    @soniczforever5470 9 місяців тому

    I restrict heavily as my thyroid is bad 400 calories. That's when my sleep tends to suffer. It's only for a few weeks

  • @malikrashaun
    @malikrashaun 10 місяців тому +2

    My goodness. Im here because I swear I slept for 3 hours last night and full of energy. Went to the Gym and now here I am laying in bed tonight and can't sleep damnit

    • @Zoe-dr5ps
      @Zoe-dr5ps Місяць тому

      Did you manage to make the no sleeping stop?

  • @AlexRixon
    @AlexRixon 4 місяці тому

    For me, autophagy is stimulating.
    I am not hungry, I just can't get to sleep. I could run a freaking marathon.

  • @606pretty
    @606pretty 3 місяці тому +1

    Sleeping is Horrible on this Fasting ish*!!!!!

  • @diegobrignone
    @diegobrignone 2 роки тому

    Many thanks for the amazing content!

  • @chrisgeraldtanjay295
    @chrisgeraldtanjay295 11 місяців тому +1

    When i starts fasting my sleep schedule ruin 😭

  • @samantioniosmitho8649
    @samantioniosmitho8649 10 місяців тому +1

    Can’t sleep on OMAD

  • @thezquad
    @thezquad 2 роки тому +5

    I originally thought it was ketosis keeping my brain active when I try to sleep.

    • @TheMeatballsub666
      @TheMeatballsub666 5 місяців тому

      Yeah same I thought that too and that after a while your body would balance itself, you'd start to be able to sleep like a baby and be able to feel more relaxed during the day and any health issues would start to fix themselves.

  • @ivankostadinov1669
    @ivankostadinov1669 3 місяці тому +1

    TMI and no solution

  • @imrankhansaami
    @imrankhansaami Рік тому +2

    Sleep become compressed

  • @jasonwaters382
    @jasonwaters382 2 роки тому +16

    Serious doubts about Peter Attia's credibility. There are countless authorities on sleep, and he has one on his show with the same message a dozen times -- Mathew Walker. Mathew Walker is a highly political, capitalistic, and controversial speaker on the relationships between sleep and health who is absolutely panned by his own colleagues on a regular basis. Take a look at the literature both in peer reviewed journals and the web. Talk with the CBTi psychiatric community and read online critical reviews. Mathew Walker twists the data to support his own conclusions while making millions from his book and speaking tours frightening people into either taking sleep more seriously or sleeping a whole lot less worrying about it. Shame on Peter! Cherry picking one such controversial "authority" on sleep at the expense of all others betrays your stated understanding of "firm convictions loosely held" which is exactly what drives consulting different perspectives on a topic so essential to longevity medicine. Peter, start asking OTHER professionals on the topic onto your show and live up to the nuance that has otherwise taken your show to the front of the pack. Otherwise, you will wind up being just another popular hack like some many other social media pundits.

    • @MrWingiii
      @MrWingiii 2 роки тому +4

      Shame on Peter? How old are you😂

    • @matttate920
      @matttate920 2 роки тому +7

      I fail to see the criticism of the specific clip. I see pocket watching and hate. Not much critical analysis of the clip. So I’ll extend an olive branch. Wym?

    • @charlesoneill466
      @charlesoneill466 2 роки тому +10

      Thanks, I will buy Mathew's book on your recommendation.

    • @hectorg1752
      @hectorg1752 Рік тому +1

      Lol you mad?

  • @Cathy-xi8cb
    @Cathy-xi8cb 2 роки тому +5

    Anorexics feel terrific too. Filled with energy. As they starve away. Don't assume you are doing anything good for your body by starving it when it is desperately trying to get you to eat.

    • @Permuh
      @Permuh 2 роки тому +7

      Taking examples to the extreme rarely make solid arguments... You're not wrong, but what are you trying to get to in the bigger aspect of the discussion?

    • @ifh4030
      @ifh4030 2 роки тому

      That's interesting, Cathy. I didn't realize anorexics often felt physically quite good. Do you think there are some insights there for people on a five or six day fast who need less sleep?

    • @android584
      @android584 2 роки тому +7

      Obesity is way more of a problem and is a problem that can be alleviated with fasting.

    • @soniczforever5470
      @soniczforever5470 Рік тому

      I'm not brilliant on 500 cals and can't get above 600 without weight gain. There seems to be insomnia from magnesium deficiency.

    • @granjera6680
      @granjera6680 Рік тому +2

      You're absolutely right. Such parameters need to be addressed just incase someone mistakes the benefits from controlled fasts to apply to mistreatment of their body. I have found fasting to be a powerful element in my health plan and it has given me internal strength and knowledge over my unhealthy relationship with food. One of the best things a person can gain from making research a part of their fasts is that they learn to listen to what their body is actually trying to tell them, and they can give it what it needs.