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Hades ALSO has the reputation of being the one guy Greeks feared saying the name of most. To be fair however, he's STILL a much cleaner guy than Zeus when it comes to his shenanigans (Zeus has countless murders and rape incidents in his criminal record while Hades has only ONE kidnapping to his name).
@@discountplaguedoctor88 Not to mention his other brother Poseidon did plenty of bad shit...most famous example probably being forcing himself on Medusa in Athena's Temple (Also seriously Athena, why you such a jealous bitch all the time? We can thank you for like, half the monsters in the mythology just because you got JEALOUS.) and got Medusa turned into the horrible monster she is now...
Bowserjr1213 none of the Greek gods were actually good. They all did something morally wrong and some gods like Zeus and Hera did stuff like that all the time. Same with Poseidon and Hades, along with every other god. The Greek gods were arrogant assholes all around
@@lordofdarkness4204 when you're basically god of the underworld, people are going to be pretty terrified of ya. Also, you do realize that I WASN'T being contradictory when it came to his criminal record? NOTHING is gonna remove that mess with Persephone from the record. Also, you said it yourself: NONE of the Greek gods were actually good.
@@obairna2285 Hades is pretty nice in the books. He is petty, yes, he is bitter, yes, but he is by far one of the best deities in the book. Zeus and Hera, on the other hand...
In the book, when Luke was revealed to be the Lightning Thief, it was gut-wrenching and a huge backstab. In the movie, it's basically: *"sup, i'm the lightning thief".*
I know right? plus I am really disappointed of how they did the mystery around Percy's father in the book it's this big mystery and it comes up this huge emotional grasp and in the movie it's like oh yeah you're the son of Poseidon get used to it
Would have been kinda cool if the movie actually showed him stepping out of the chair, TARDIS style, but nah, he's just a centaur and we'll never address how the wheelchair works, deal with it.
Yeah lmao. I just got into the series due to my sister,I didn’t even bother watching any of the movies since she kept on describing how horrible they were.
I read the books after the movies, and I would not say that. The books tell a good story, yes, but the writer often gets bogged down explaining things and forgets to actually write our main heroes as real human beings and characters...
@@DrDolan2000 He was just such a badass! The ultimate shitty parenting story gone wrong, and it fits in so well with the mythology. Fuck there are so many nitpicky problems in this movie too
Books: Percy is a lovable goofball who tries always tries his best, Annabeth is an intelligent and sarcastic girl with a heart of gold, Grover is a loyal and protective friend, Hades is NOT PORTRAYED AS SATAN, the world is built up and interesting. Movies: Nah
Can you spoil a bit more ? I mean i watched the movie long ago ( or maybe 2 movies ) But from what i saw in the first 10 minutes of the video she wasn't that much did the books go deep into her psycky or something ? I mean billions of men exist in thr world and she chose the drunk abuser one to "mask" percy ?
@@waddahyana494 yea she stayed with him because he smelled so bad that it masked Percy's smell from monsters (monsters can smell demigods). And no it didn't go into her psychy because she wasn't the main character but it did go into her and Percy's relationship a lot more. He absolutely adored her and they were really close. It was a big point in the books that just wasn't portrayed in the movies very well.
idk if i'm remembering this right, but although the lightning bolt was DESCRIBED as something that could destroy half the country, wasn't it kinda... pew pew in the books as well?
The books are basically the things you loved about the Lotus Casino scene for the whole thing, with characters that aren't watered down Hollywood versions. My friend said it best when this was announced to be coming out, and said their opinion didn't change after seeing it: "Percy Jackson is great, and would make a great movie series, but would NEVER get the budget to do it right."
agreed it would not get the budget to do it right, but ive always thought it would be best to do it as a tv series live action or animated would do this series right.
budget doesn't mean shit if the director/writers turn the characters and stories that made the books succesfull in the first place, into every generic Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings wannabe. this movie had MORE than enough money put into it to make something great, but you just can't pay "giving a shit" with money.
indeed he does, in fact he hates it badly enough that he called out or even flat out roasted the filmmakers, if you have done badly enough that the author is calling you out then your in big trouble.
@@boots5304 No sadly not, but there is a campfire song in which all the halfbloods talk about how shitty there god parents are and Percy sings about how Awesome Sally Jackson is
@@boots5304 you can find the album on UA-cam along with a few animatic with the series my personal recommendation is to use the channel Kallina who is in the middle of going through the entire show. The character designs and timing is just what you'd expect the the characters to act, sound and look like. Here's her animatic for the first number of the show The Day I got Expelled ua-cam.com/video/nkFBAJD4yQo/v-deo.html
@@someguy4853 The reason why they use swords and classic weapons is because regular metals don't hurt monsters. They use celestial bronze (I believe this is the name in English), a special magic metal that does, among other magic materials and relics. But as you can imagine, it's a lot more rare than regular metals, so they save it mostly for melee weapons. One guy has made bullets out of it once in the books, but it was for a special occasion: an actual army of monsters, where it was almost impossible to miss a target and waste ammo. Now tell me if the movie came even close to coming up with something that logical or interesting.
It's and the parts they did change piss me off. The biggest is that how the staff violently try and force them to stay, when in the myth and the book nothing was forcing the people to stay with the lotus eaters, it's just that it's basically heaven so why would you ever want to leave it? Hell the only reason they do so in both the book and the myth is because there are important things that must be done.
@Animestar17 In the books there are no Lotus flowers and Percy finds out something is wrong on his own when he notices someone that looks like he's stuck in the 70s only to realise he actually from the 70s.
@@invidatauro8922 Yup its magic. It makes you forget everything important in your life. After a couple of hours, Percy could barely remember his mom's name. It makes you never want to leave, to stay completely engrossed in the games there. And to top it all off, it makes time speed up, a couple hours in the hotel is 5 days outside. A couple weeks in the hotel is 30 years outside. A month in the hotel is 70 years outside.
24:25 rick had no control over the movie. Even he hated it. He sent in a bunch of suggestions for it but they took none of them. He didn't make that line.
The fact that I’m constantly thinking “no, that’s explained by x detail in the books” speaks LEAGUES about this movie’s awful worldbuilding. Easily in my top 2 most hated films.
@@TehWhiteTiger I always wanted to see this happen in Percy Jackson. You know those cups that can have any drink. What if Percy asked for hydroclric acid and dumped it on someone.
icecream hero what if he accidentally spilled that on Luke when he was still in the Hermès cabin. I mean, Kronos would probably find a new follower, but it would at least slow him down. Plus it’s explained in the extended book Percy Jackson’s Greek Gods that ghosts can’t lie, so when Luke’s judged in the underworld by the three golden masked men, a lot if not all of Kronos’s plans would’ve been unveiled to the Gods, and they could’ve stopped him while he was still weak in Tartarus. I take these books too seriously...
The fact that Doug doesn’t tell us about the all the things the movie doesn’t explain with examples from the books speaks leagues about his awful preparation for a book-based movie.
*Nostalgia Critic:* _Pointing out all the plot holes, poor character performances, and stupid story elements_ *People who have read the books:* *_Strained tea kettle noises_*
This movie broke me as a tween. It ignored the lore of the books and fell back on tired tropes so hard that I could make a list several pages long. A DISGRACE I SAY
@@gamingdragonofmordor3770 ... That... Don't remind me... I will have my revenge. Dragon Ball Evolution, Beautiful Creatures, and the Twilight series. 😉👌
the beauty of the percy jackson books and fandom is that the fandom doesnt need to imagine themselves as the main character, and we dont want to. we imagine ourselves as another character in the world, we go along with percy and his friends. we're with him and cheering him on his first day of camp, crying with him as he see's beloved friends die, and we laugh at his corny jokes. the books use that angle to give him an actual personality and make him someone who we love. he has good and bad traits, he has people he loves, he has things that are usually sacrificed to make a character more "relatable". hes unique, and not really like anyone. i cant relate to half of the things he does and is, however i relate to the world itself. a place where kids who dont fit in and lose hope in themselves belong. its even easier for me, a kid with adhd who's disorder holds them back, it gives me a place to feel like i belong. it even gives a way for people without adhd or dyslexia to see themselves in this world, with characters such as percy's mom, and racheal, but they too have personalities and goals many people dont. when my problems to do with adhd get really bad, i'll often start reading percy jackson books. you know what i wont do?? watch the FUCKING movies that take everything i love OUT THE WINDOW. they are a disgrace to the books which make me feel warm and comforted, and i hope the show is better then the clusterfuck that were the movies.
The Percy Jackson films are a cautionary tale told among the writer communities whenever Hollywood wants to make a live-action adaptation of their books
If for some reason I write a book so popular that it's being made into a movie, I am going to be on fucking set every fucking day to make that shit is right.
They are adapting the bartimaeus sequence and I love those books. I am so afraid and worried because most of the books series I love have been adapted horribly into movies. Why can't film directors stick to the books?
You know listening to the NC nitpick stuff that was explained in the book really makes you realize how much BS the mist covers up. Edit: thanks this is the most likes I've ever had for a comment. Just to clarify I dont think plotholes in themselves are a good determinant of the quality of various fiction because every fictional story has them. I think they're only a problem if they break your suspension of disbelief. If you are watching a movie and go wait that doesn't make any sense cause of something that happened earlier it's very difficult to regain and maintain your continued investment and enjoyment in the movie.
Not saying HP is more than a shitty oveeblown fandom, but it sadly is the better "young adult" adaptation. Doug's attack on Potter is an extension on how much better the adaptation(at least based off the books, not the author's later trans+/anti-trans viewpoints) was handled.
@@nodorog448 Her views aren't anti trans, they're pro woman. Her argument is that the female identity is being erased and co-oped by men. She's not denying they are people, just that it takes more to be a woman than cutting off your peen and stuffing your sack into that small testicle cavity in your abdomen and pretending it's now a vagina. It's like giving someone a skin graft and pretending they are a dime piece instead of disfigured. My statement isn't a condemnation of the grafted, only that they aren't the same as someone who isn't grafted
Percy is isn’t even shown to be a “loser” in the movie however in the book it spent a fair portion of the book showing that he is being bullied and nobody even cares
James Games well not exactly it actually more that he is trying to defend the bullied kid (Grover) but not being able to do anything without getting in trouble
To be honest, at the beginning of the series most of the other demigods were indifferent to Percy at worst. If anyone in the book called Percy a "loser" (other than an unconvincing Clarisse), that person would be Percy himself. Considering his background with an abusive stepfather and multiple expulsions until he turned twelve in the books, this self-depreciation is somewhat justified.
@@jamescolm1133 Oh... well... um... I didn't realize that. My apologizes. EDIT: Though Nancy might not have been the first bully Percy had to deal with, only the first that we see.
Having Harry Potter failing at being a generic youth protagonist because he's actually an interesting character with a well-defined personality was a nice touch.
@@thezeitos469 He's mentioned it in other videos. Admittedly, hate is a strong word, but he's made it clear that he doesn't like the movies. He messes with Potter heads the same way he messes with Pokemon fans. He doesn't hate the franchise he just enjoys screwing with us.
@@Hewylewis Not really. It's all in good fun and as someone who is both a Potterhead and a Pokemon fan I think it's funny enough. He literally eats the angry comments of salty Pokemon fans. That shit cracks me up
I actually stopped reading the books because Potter's only character trait was his selfishnes. He's always complaining about his life problems to his friends like a jerk. Also, as a young boy it was pretty easy to see that the books were written by a woman who doesn't know how boys think
@@Igorcastrochucre not invisible, just either unnoticed or believable, for example Tyson just looks like he has two eyes rather than just being completely invisible
Spoiler Alert. Things missing from the book: 1. There is a thing called the Mist, which prevents normal mortals from noticing the Greeks gods. 2. Percy is a hilarious protagonist with all the one-liners. 3. The mission is to get Zeus's lightning bolt back from the Underworld, but Percy is only really going to save his mom. 4. The pearls they're searching for in the movie were just given to Percy in St. Louis in the book. 5. Sally stays behind in the Underworld, while Annabeth and Grover only try to sacrifice themselves to save Sally. 6. Percy has a fight with Ares, not Luke, at the end of the book. 7. Percy can talk to horses. 8. Capture the Flag was more fun in the book and Poseidon claimed Percy as his son when it was finished. 9. Percy was twelve, not sixteen. 10. Percy was given the quest by the Oracle and left Camp Half-Blood in full view of everyone. He didn't need to sneak out. There is more, but these were the biggest inconsistencies to come to mind. I'm not saying the movie was perfect, far from it, but please, read the book if you want the whole story. I'm afraid the Critic's mean-spirited critique toward one of my favorite book series might be turning people away. Also, leave Harry Potter alone. He doesn't deserve to be yelled at and abused by the Critic.
Also, why people aren't using guns: Magical metals. The weaponry in the series is made from specific types of metals that are the only thing that can hurt the mythical beings of the books. In the half-blood camp the most common is Celestial bronze, thought there are others. And vice versa, these don't work on mortals.
I know I've never read the Percy Jackson books myself, nor have I seen the movies, but I'm glad to see someone defending a book series they know and love so well. Respect! :) I will say that it's the Critic's job to review movies, not the books, so I am kinda split on how he should review movies based on books. I mean, if he's not interested in reading the books (maybe to save on time), I should say it should be fair for him to at least consult the fanbases for the books the movies are based on so he'll know some facts going into a review. I mean, if he's seen all of Avatar: The Last Airbender before reviewing the Last Airbender movie, why can't he go to a little more length on stuff like this? If he doesn't like it, fine, but I'd say if he did do a little more research of the films based on books he's not a fan of, it would show a little more respect for his audience(s). Also, I totally agree, Harry Potter is awesome. He does not deserve to be abused by the Critic. I honestly thought that was the most mean-spirited part of this review. Very disheartening. :/
@@AishaVonFossen I get that the Critic is trying to judge a movie on its own merit, but at the same time, no movie is going to perfectly represent a book. Rick Riordan, the author of the Percy Jackson series, has five books to get through the story. It makes the experience much richer, especially since we're in Percy's point-of-view. You feel like you're there with Percy, learning and growing with him. As for the two movies, they only had so much time. We're not in Percy's point-of-view and so you feel more like an outsider and the things they change make the story feel muddled. I agree. It is disheartening that the Critic is so dismissive of both Harry Potter and Percy Jackson. They are both well defined, spirited characters and he just ignores their best qualities by choosing to only focus on what he considers to be their worst aspects.
@@elizabethjanemorgan3607 Oh yeah, it is common that movies aren't always close to the books, though I will say that some film adaptations get closer to the original source materials than others. I'm sure the books are much richer, as they take more of their time to tell a much more elaborate story. And to be honest, I kinda like the idea of the "wowed youngster" cliche, since we are seeing it in the main character's point of view, as someone connected to the fantastical world, and yet entirely brand new to it as well. I will agree with some of the tired tropes that the Critic points out about the "wowed youngster" cliche, but then again, who wouldn't be wowed by being introduced to a new world? One of the ways that made Harry so relatable for me is that like us, he was always wowed by being introduced to new parts of the Wizarding World he had never seen before in every book/film. And based on what you say, it sounds like the same thing for Percy. Yeah, I can see what you're saying about the movie's point of view. I guess it's pretty common in movies for their points of view to shift between all the characters, I guess in an attempt to flesh them out, but then again, it can also distract from the point of view in the story that really matters, like, as you say, Percy. Yeah, while I agree that Harry had some weak points in his character (but then again, as any character does, even the best ones), I agree, Harry is a well-defined, spirited character. And honestly, Harry has had to do a shit ton of work that really a lot of the adults in the Wizarding World should have been more on top of themselves, instead of, you know, leaving a *KID* to save *their* day! I don't care if he was some kind of prophesied "chosen one," he was still a kid who was thrown into a whole other environment that started out completely new to him, and he had to learn how it all worked, on top of defeating a powerful overlord, AND juggling his wizarding studies and personal life all at the same time! Harry definitely has my respect for surviving all that crap. LOL
@@revstalker7334 In one of the sequel books (I believe it was the third book) Annabeth's father makes bullets out of the special metal and uses them on a plane machine gun and it's decently effective.
Dear directors who want to write something with Greek mythology. HADES IS NOT SATAN!!! HE IS NOT EVIL THE ONLY MYTH WHERE HE DOES SOMETHING VILLAINOUS IS WHEN HE JUSTIFIABLY PUNISHES SOMEONE
Yeah, Hades is usually pretty chill in the underworld in mythology (He even understands that his domain has more people than the living world). It's always annoying to see adaptations where he's reduced to 'devil trope'
Considering the fact that one of the major conflicts in the series was godly parents being divine deadbeats who allowed their children to die/suffer without any love, support, or protection, the whole Poseidon-bails-Percy-out-constantly thing is a huge slap in the face. Percy has a complicated relationship with his father; he wanted to make him proud but was often let down and hurt/confused by his distance. Like Luke, he had to struggle to come to terms with his identity and godly heritage and even though he didn’t betray the gods, he never let them off the hook for their shitty behavior, either. GOD, the book is so much better, I’m going to go back to pretending it doesn’t exist
Rick Riordan wrote a letter to all teachers saying that he would rather have his teeth pulled out without anesthesia than have students watch the movie
I am just as disappointed in Rick for letting this happen as Harry Potter's movies were only as goos because of tight author control on them while Riordan was hands off obviously. He should have learned by this point in time that it is a rarity for books to be adapted properly and it's as much the author's responsibility to take initiative as anyone else's.
Depressing dot Co. In the books/ movies, Severus Snape was a horribly mean teacher to Harry Potter. Then years later Harry had a son and gave him the middle name “Severus”.
Here's fun facts they changed,removed or fucked up from the book: -Percy and Annabeth were 12 in books; -Grover was not black; -No explanetion of the mist; -I don't remember a hydra in the first book; -NO FRICKING ARES; -The reason why Percy's birth is a no-no; -Portrayal of Hades; -No retrieving a thingy for Ares; -The bed shop; -Portrayal of Charon -No Cerberus; -Portrayal of the underworld; -Sally was the one who stayed in underworld, not Grover -Capture the flag (it was not red vs blue) -No Argus; -No mention of Kronos -No fight between Percy and Ares; -Luke's betrayal, it was different in the book
It never bothered me if somebody flipped a character's race (unless the plot required that character to be that specific race) so I don't mind Grover being black but I cannot forgive them changing Annabeth's hair colour.
And where was-oh what was her name...Clarisse? That one bitch who was a daughter of Ares I think, who ended up coming around toward the end of the series? Edit: not to mention that she played an integral role in the ongoing plot lol
I'm praying that Percy Jackson and the Olympains will get picked up again and get the respect it deserves. The books were OUTSTANDING and this movie along with its sequel treated it's story and characters as blank states and uninteresting characters in general.
What you need is an ANIME series. Each book can be a season, or every two books can be one season. THEN, maybe a year or so after the series ends, you can start up the Heroes of Olympus series!
How to make a good percy Jackson reboot 1.buy the books 2.find a transcript of the books 3.copy it. 4. Go get your google doc of the script 5.paste 6.edit
Yeah, they could have at least said something like, "This is a statue of Heracles, or as you may know him from Roman mythology, Hercules." Problem solved! LOL
Seriously. The first movie screw up so bad I don't even know HOW they managed to make a second since all the actual story elements were botched. The whole plot of the books hinges on anticipation for Percy's eventual sixteenth birthday due to a prophecy. So naturally, lets make him already 16 in the movie!
The problem with this film is that it doesn't follow the books at all and skips all the good parts of the books it just changes stuff without it making any sense
What about the first one? I thought it followed the book pretty well. Sure it took a few liberties here and there, but overall, I thought it was pretty good. (I haven't seen or read the second one, though.)
@@rhiannonthrasher7747 the second movie was horrible compared to the first movie. Yes they first movie was bad in what they changed. But the second movie did something that completely screws up the rest of the series
Yeah. In the books, it's mentioned that the wheelchair was enchanted to make room for Chiron's legs. If only the movie cared about the small details like the books did.
@@Ze_eT True the Lotus Eater connection was more overt in the movie, but the scene was more deep in the book since Percy managed to figure out on his own that people had been trapped in here for years and managed to force himself to leave. The allegory for addiction was way stronger in the book, the Lotus Casino drew people in just by giving all sorts of entertainment to distract them from all their troubles and concerns. They just stay there and ignore anything else. Percy and the gang didn't steal a car while being chased by guards, they walked out the front door while the casino employees were tempting them to stay by offering them a membership with access to all sorts of new games. It was a less action-packed escape but overall it was a way more unpleasant experience for them all since they had to fight their urges to just stay. But instead, the movie has LSD flower cakes and Lady Gaga montages.
@@Ze_eT except in greek the word lotus means persimmons as in the fruit which is what they actually ate, not lotus flowers, so it's inaccurate in both book and movie
The other day, I kid you not, I was in a job training thing and the instructor started off with “as you know” and immediately I thought “shit, I’m in a bad movie”
That's kinda why this movie is a horrible adaptation. A good adaptation should be able to stand up on it's own, without the source material propping it up. As an example, look at Harry Potter. Sure, the movies change a lot of things, but they still stand up and make sense without reading the books.
The books: Yeah Annabeth is blonde, Percy has sea green eyes, he doesn't just chill underwater it's more like he has a bubble, Grover isn't black, and Percy found out his heritage during war games which actually allowed time for Luke to be shown as a guy who just wanted to make things good for everyone in his cabin with him. The movie: Nah
TheRealKnight32 You forgot another thing they got wrong in the movie Chiron has the body of a white stallion He isn’t a chestnut colored stallion. Can’t you guys get anything right in movie based off of a successful book series?
James Callanan I know right? I think he’s much better black. And I guess after this movie came out I saw art of the characters and how they were supposed to look like and I saw Grover and oh boy I was like Grover is much better black than white. Don’t get me started on Nico de Angelo. The fanart is way better.
And those were the least important changes they did in the movie. I really don't care about their skin/eye/hair colours (but in the books, there's a lot of variety), but the changes they did to the Story and characters? Its kinda devastating 🙈
Having just re-read the series, one of the things that stands out to me watching the movie first time through is how Ms. Dodds immediately tells Percy in her first attack "you stole the lightning bolt" instead of just assuming his guilt and attacking him on sight, and then later asking "where is it (without saying its name)" like she did in the book. By being vague and indirect, it set up the Kindly ones to be more mysterious, left it up for Grover and Annabeth to theorize that maybe there was more going on there than Hades being the Thief. Just a perfect early red flag that story telling and Subtlety had no meaning in the movie lol.
It's just like how Percy in the books didn't immediately get put in the Poseidon cabin. He actually spent the first week or two with the Hermes cabin because that's where demigods who've not had their parent confirmed stay.
JSB Yeah, pretty much, I think it was book seven where they even tried to demand Harry to not use it in public, since it gives him away, but he replies back that it’s his most helpful/useful spell!
A FEW of the dumb changes they made from the book: *Percy and Annabeth are 12 in the first book, not teenagers *No mention of Clarisse (daughter of Ares and Percy's nemesis) in the movie. *No Mr. D aka Dionysus (overseer of the camp) in the movie (Yes I know they were both in the sequel but let's face it the movies were already dead to society by then) *Persephone's pearls were something they happened across by chance, not Dora the Explorer-type checkpoints *Percy didn't learn he was the son of Poseidon until the water healed him in capture the flag *Annabeth was the first person Percy met at camp, and they don't start out with animosity, just tepid awkwardness. *Percy is SENT on the quest to the underworld to get the bolt back from Hades and clear his name (he doesn't just sneak out), who everyone thinks really stole it. *Ares the war god is SUPER important in the book. HE gives the crew the lightning bolt hidden in a backpack given to him by Luke. *Luke being revealed as the villain isn't revealed until after Percy gets back to camp, and it's actually a decently done twist.
Also they completely ignored Annabeth and Luke's past until the second movie and didn't even mention the mist which explained a lot of things that Nostalgia Critic joked about
I remember listening to the Audiobook early last year. I got to the 3rd book but stopped cause I had a few other things going on. All these points are correct! Maybe one day someone will adapt the book correctly instead of the hot garbage we got =/
@@nifralo2752 The only real way to do a proper film adaptation of Percy Jackson is in the same way they did Harry Potter IE with a set of child actors that are the right age and have a film a year as they grow older and go through each adventure in the books. Plus a big plot point in the books is Percy's age because he has just hit the age where he is strong enough for monsters to start noticing him more, and Percy coming of age is also a plot point in the later books.
The part that I was genuinely offended was the part that Percy left Grover in the underworld. PERCY LEAVES HIS MOTHER BEHIND IN THE NOVEL. He starts this mission to rescue his mother, but when the time comes he decides to sacrifice his dearest wish for his friends and world. That's the moment when a troublesome teenager truly becomes a hero. And here, as Doug points out, he is an asshole who literally kills his own friend for his mother.
Spelter The issue was that Percy needed Grover and Annabeth if he was going to stop the war, and he said in the book that he would rather take his mother’s place than sacrifice his friends.
Zachary Gilmore actually in both the book and the movie it still doesn’t make sense as to why Percy just doesn’t leave the bitchy cunt in Hell because if she’s not going to date Percy in the books or the movie than her character serves no purpose at all.
Light Yagami Annabeth was a key character to Luke’s redemption and development. (Spoilers from the books Luke was the one who was the true hero by the end of the series) Annabeth was also the link that permitted Percy not die due the alchilles curse.
I feel bad for your parents if you think that not wanting to leave them in hell makes you an asshole. I also question your morals if you think trading your own mother who loved and raised for two people you just met is heroic. And did Percy take Riptide and decapitate Grover? No, so he did not “literally kill” him.
Thing is, ypu can't make a movie about Greek mythology and have a Greek centaur who has been around at the actual Ancient Greece call Heracles "Hercules".
firepiplup To be fair, due to various pop culture iterations in the West, Hercules is usually used interchangeably in both the Greek and Roman retellings. Though IIRC at least the books called him Heracles.
Spoiler Alert: That ending where you all had to look on your phones to see if Jubilee was actually a vampire made me laugh for five minutes. Well done.
NC about the only thing loyal to the book: This is actually the only clever thing in this movie! If the rest of the movie had been this clever it would’ve been pretty awesome. Oof.
Indeed. He wasn't a complete and utter moron, he was a decent kid with bad luck sure, but he wasn't exactly book smart. He was more the street smart kid with issues at home, given he had a single mom who married an asshole to protect him and his only friend was the weird kid with a limp And then the demon from hell comes in.
Luke in the movie: “my dads a jerk, I’ve never met him” Luke in the play: “I met the guy once, and once was enough” Even more evidence that TLT play is more accurate to the book
While that would be nice, given what they've done with these two films, the prospect of any company giving a team the time of day (let alone a check) is unlikely at best for such a project. It makes me wonder why they do this? Yes, somethings in books need to be cut to save time, this is to be expected. However, to quote a certain book-tuber, "you can't just keep hacking and hacking away at a plot until it fits a two-hour run-time!" And he's right about that. Some things need to be cut or trimmed down, but when you hack away at a plot or God-forbid, change it so drastically that it's barely even remotely like the original source material, I got to ask "why even bother?" Or, if you're going to change things, give a reason and then do it the best you can. I argue that you should be as faithful to the plot and characters as possible, but I understand you can't have a movie go on for 6+ hours, or less someone will get greedy and slice up those six hours into three movies when the original book barely had enough for one movie, let alone three. The point is... why? The original novel's story is simple but complex. Yes, Percy and his friends still went to these locations but for different reasons. I kinda get where they were coming from, making the pearls into a treasure hunt and spreading them across the country... but at the same time, the book's plot was MORE then serviceable enough to follow, there was no need to change it or dumb it down to a simple treasure hunt when they STILL went to these places (and more-so if I remember right.) Why make it into a treasure hunt? Why dumb it down into an even simpler story by removing the Oracle and making it into a cliche rebellious youth storyline? I don't get it, nor will I probably ever.
@@thyvideomaker3063 Harry is a character we can identify with because his struggle to fit in is natural. We follow his story because we want to see where he goes, which comes from us identifying how it would feel to be in that situation. The others are made explicitly so we can imagine ourselves in their place, instead of just following along.
I read both Percy Jackson and Heroes of Olympus, and I'm severely disappointed by the fact that this movie and its sequel are the only things people know about series. Let's all pray and hope that one day, we'll get an accurate and awesome adaptation. Maybe a Netlix animated series in the style of Avatar or Voltron Legendary Defender, so that one day it will get the recognition it deserves.
It's been a while since I read the lightning thief, but didn't the scene where Percy finds out that Lotus Hotel is dangerous go something like "aaaah, everything is going well... wait, that's wrong"
I like how Harry Potter is the runt of the students learning to be bland characters. It kinda subtly says that Harry is more intersting than the bland characters in other films
I didn’t even realize that symbolism, I just thought Dough just didn’t like Harry Potter but him being more interesting and awesome than the characters actually makes a lot of sense!
The thing about them not using guns. That has been done and to a great effectiveness (enchanted metal Guns were strapped to a fricking plane and decimated an entire army) however the enchanted metal is very rare and---- DAMN IT DID THE MOVIE READ ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE COVER?????
Honestly there was no really obvious betrayal in Harry Potter either. Quirrel made sense in retrospect, but it caught me by surprise. Granted I was 6 or 7 when I read the first book.
i watched the movie for the first time without knowing how much the fandom hates it and was absolutely appalled to find out that the writers basically changed everything. it’s not the same story.
I hated the Percy Jackson movies! They were terribly acted and casted. They also got some of the main plot points wrong and I wish they wouldn't have made these movies.
@@dortymakaloni7861 the second movie basically combined elements from books 2-5 because they fucking knew they wouldn't get a third movie... Then still teased Talia at the end.
I find the movie entertaining if I turn off my brain and forget about the connections to the book and with the changes it has it is rather easy to just disconnect it from the book
Didn't read the books, still didn't like the movie. It was okay. A decent movie you watch in the background whole doing other stuff. But it wasn't good.
The books were written by someone who researches Greek, Roman and Egyptian mythologies for a living. The movies were written by people trying to condense that down to a two hour running time and not caring about accuracy.
Don't forget the sequel series to the sequel series that has a completely different main character but exists in the same cannon, The Trials of Apollo and Magnus Chase, both taking place around the same time
@@madcap3450 Trust me. The Percy Jackson series is incredible. The movie does not do justice to the fascinating world and characters Rick Riordan created. They didn't even come close to the coolness of how Greek mythology blends with modern day America. Ares takes the form of a Hells Angel biker with flaming empty eye sockets. Dionysus is the camp's director as part of a punishment from Zeus for fooling around with nymphs, and takes the form of an extremely pissed off and condescending middle aged man with a perpetual hangover in a leopard pattern shirt, and is a god of wine forced to be sober. Hades is actually terrifying when Percy first encounters him, because he is the first god Percy sees to actually take on a traditional godly appearance, with the deathly pale skin, a crown of bones, black as night robes, dark tunnel like eyes and an army of skeleton bodyguards made up of soldiers from across history.
MadCap Percy Jackson had nothing to do with gender or sexuality. Up until the Heroes of Olympus, no one was gay or hinted at it. Even Heroes of Olympus handled it well. I will admit though, Chase series could’ve done it better BUT a lot of Norse mythology (mainly Loki) had trans myths so it’s not that out of place.
@@gracefutrell1912 I would have been great if Critic had read the books first. Of course that would have made Critic furiously enraged over how bad the movie was compared to the book. Also the book answered some of the questions Critic had like why Percy's mom did stay with Gabe and how did Chiron (Pierce Brosnan) hide his horse body in the wheelchair? For example the wheelchair is a TARDIS, it's bigger on the inside XD.
17:40 That’s actually not true. In the third book, a guy uses bronze bullets in his plane to kill an army of monsters. Also, in the first book of the second series, there is a shotgun that shoots bronze shells.
The reason they don’t use it more often cause celestial steel and imperial gold and stygian iron are hard to come by and it would be better to use it to create swords than bullets plus that guy is Annabeth’s father
even the gods couldn't make the mythical materials, and iirc the guy, annabeth's dad, melted down a bunch of her weapons into the bronze penetrators for custom shells used by a sopwith camel.
To be fair, about 85-90% of all the questions you asked could’ve been answered if the movie explained it better or by doing the “Show don’t tell” rule.
I think that's an issue with book adaptations in general. You're adapting source material that is ALL explanation, so you have to find a balance between explaining enough of the intricacies of the books for things to make sense, and not overexplaining and telling rather than showing. It makes it a rather difficult task, although I'm sure you could do a lot better than this movie does
He does have a bit more personality though. Like his passion for quidditch, for example, and his relationships with Hagrid and Dobby, which make him more interesting than just being "the chosen one."
The whole capture the flag was a lot more extensive in the first book. Originally all the various houses are their own army battalion rather then it being a red vs. blue situation. Most of the time the Demi-Gods don't know who their godparent is until their godparent decides to recognize them. And more often than not that doesn't happen so they are forced to stay in the Hermes House until their godly parent does recognize them. It's during this capture the flag battle where Percy discovers he is the son of Poseidon for the first time. Guns wouldn't work on Monsters or God's, only Celestial Bronze, Stygian Iron, and Imperial Gold weapons are effective.
@@saintroddy Goddamn, Annabeth's dad was awesome in that scene. The idea of piloting a biplane equipped with mythical ammos and blasting real monsters from the sky is such an epic idea. Too bad I'd probably never see it truly realized in film...
I think a pump action shotgun that shot celestial bronze bullets was mentioned in passing in the hero's of Olympus books, and in the trails of Apollo, it's explained that because celestial bronze bullets damage guns and the metal is rare so bullets cannot be mass produced, using any kind of gun is impractical
Jaana Humlie remember when annabeth’s dad flew in to use a ww2 plane fireing celestial bronze bullets to kill monsters being an absolute badass even though the mist wouldn’t let him see them
@@augustrempelewert4377She was described to be beautiful before Athena turned her into a gorgon, plus her voice didn't change much, so she used it while hiding her face to trick her victims and lull them into a false sense of security.
Wintermute01001 actually Christianity is Greek mythology blended together and mixed with some Asian & Indian bullshit & some bullshit the Jews made up and then the court on nycia decided what stayed in so the fact that there are parallels is to be expected
Heck, that probably would annoy Byzantines (medieval Christian Greeks) too. They knew how to keep Greek mythology and Christian theology separate. And when writing stories about pre-Christian Greek characters they didn't try to insert Christian doctrines into their beliefs.
@@backupaccountforcooldaddyj7895 Please stop trying to perpetuate misconceptions circulated by fundamentalist Christian literature, anti-theists, and neo-pagans.
Honestly, Nostalgia Critic should review the Lightning Thief book. It's clearly a book that a lot of people loved as a child. Also, the author's son had ADHD and dyslexia and was insecure about it. So that's why he made all demigods have it.
@@nifralo2752 I wouldn't call that insulting, unless you consider Ancient Greek a bad thing. But it feels tacked on as a excuse, and something that if it was really true, someone would have noticed in that stories world eventually.
Well, they do. People with dyslexia and adhd still exist in this world without being demigods. It’s just that all demigods have it. Because of the excuse given in the book. But regular humans still have both afflictions to. And demigods always realize they’re demigods at some point. It could be because they realized the reason behind their adhd/dyslexia, but it’s usually because monsters hunt them down and it gets easier to do that the older they get. Of course, almost none of that is canon, it’s just a speculation I made based off what I remember from the books, which I haven’t read in a decade. But it seems unlikely literally every person with dyslexia and adhd in this universe is a demogod
Yeah, in this universe, the Demigods are misdiagnosed with dyslexia and adhd. Because normal humans are like “yes this is what that sounds like“ because it’s the only thing they know. But in reality demigods show those symptoms because they are always alert for battle and Greek is their first reading language
@@FastForwardPlans Demigods are typically discovered and herded to CHB around 12 years old. The chances of them encountering Ancient Greek prior to discovering they are demigods and realizing they can understand it much better than they should is low at best. Demigods are literally tied to Ancient Greece because of their blood. Not all dyslexic people in Percy Jackson can read Ancient Greek, only the demigods because the source of their dyslexia is their godly parentage.
Actually Harry's catchphrase is Expelliarmus. He uses the disarming spell so much that the Death Eaters know instantly which Harry is the real one in Book 7 the second he uses it. Professor Lupin even brings this up. He admits the spell is extremely useful but when Harry uses it so much that its pretty much his UK personal ID card its extremely dangerous.
Strange. They say because Percy’s brain is wired to understand Ancient Greek, he thinks he’s dyslexic. I’m Greek, learned Ancient Greek in an early age and English was really easy to pick up as a language because of how many Greek words are in it. Also, why do they keep making Hades Satan? He was probably one of the quietest and least troublemaking of the gods. Save for an instance or two, he always minded his own business, had a shit job and he did it unconditionally, why do they always make him the Devil?
because hades is the god of the underworld and therefore everybody believes he is just like lucifer. it is dumb. i know and i hated too. zeus was far worse than hades. he just takes care of the dead. thats it
@@Revan-eb1wb eeeeh not really? I mean, yeah, there's the whole kidnapping thing, but there are many versions of them, and I've never heard of Persephone downright hating her husband
They wasted Luke in this, in the books he's a well developed antagonist with an actual character arc with a satisfying conclusion, his betrayal doesn't actually happen until the very end of the first book. In these two movies he's demoted to whiney brat, and his character arc is non-existent. Don't worry the books have so much more imagination and passion behind them.
His betrayal is better too, because you really don't see it obviously right from the get go. It's also super fast and subtle, not some big show. Had Luke done it anywhere else, he actually might have succeeded, that's how good it was.
Mugetsu I actually love the books, yes I watched the movie first because they made me watch it in school, but to this day if I turn my brain off and keep the movie separate from the book I find it slightly entertaining
Which adaptation was worse, Eragon or Percy Jackson?
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Percy Jackson
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Book: Depicts Hades as being misunderstood and otherwise a pretty ok guy
Movie: HE'S EVIL!
Hades ALSO has the reputation of being the one guy Greeks feared saying the name of most. To be fair however, he's STILL a much cleaner guy than Zeus when it comes to his shenanigans (Zeus has countless murders and rape incidents in his criminal record while Hades has only ONE kidnapping to his name).
@@discountplaguedoctor88 Not to mention his other brother Poseidon did plenty of bad shit...most famous example probably being forcing himself on Medusa in Athena's Temple (Also seriously Athena, why you such a jealous bitch all the time? We can thank you for like, half the monsters in the mythology just because you got JEALOUS.) and got Medusa turned into the horrible monster she is now...
Levi Herendeen yeah but the Greeks didn’t believe death was evil. Also the myths told on Hades directly contradict what you just said
Bowserjr1213 none of the Greek gods were actually good. They all did something morally wrong and some gods like Zeus and Hera did stuff like that all the time. Same with Poseidon and Hades, along with every other god. The Greek gods were arrogant assholes all around
@@lordofdarkness4204 when you're basically god of the underworld, people are going to be pretty terrified of ya. Also, you do realize that I WASN'T being contradictory when it came to his criminal record? NOTHING is gonna remove that mess with Persephone from the record. Also, you said it yourself: NONE of the Greek gods were actually good.
Books: actually great worldbuilding, complex characters, explaining everything sooner or later
Movies: *that*
What is... *that?*
Also continuing the trend in modern media of doing a 180 from mythological Hades to make him Satan
@@obairna2285 The books didn't do that iirc.
@@obairna2285 Nah Hades' actually kinda chill in the books
@@obairna2285 Hades is pretty nice in the books.
He is petty, yes, he is bitter, yes, but he is by far one of the best deities in the book.
Zeus and Hera, on the other hand...
In the book, when Luke was revealed to be the Lightning Thief, it was gut-wrenching and a huge backstab. In the movie, it's basically: *"sup, i'm the lightning thief".*
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Especially because there's less of a clue in on Luke being a traitor
The best part of the reveal is that it happened AFTER the quest ended.
Couldn't have said it better myself
I know right? plus I am really disappointed of how they did the mystery around Percy's father in the book it's this big mystery and it comes up this huge emotional grasp and in the movie it's like oh yeah you're the son of Poseidon get used to it
About Chiron: The books depicted his wheelchair as basically a magical pocket-dimension, effectively being a snail shell for the horse bit.
Would have been kinda cool if the movie actually showed him stepping out of the chair, TARDIS style, but nah, he's just a centaur and we'll never address how the wheelchair works, deal with it.
@@bdletoast09 That would have taken effort, and this movie firmly in the territory of ‘lazy cash grab’.
Oh that's why he was in a wheelchair I thought he just morphed back and forth from centaur crippled human
And in the sequel the don’t even mention the party ponies!
Let's just see how the t.v. show will fare compared to the movies.
Absolutely every single criticism about the movie is solved by the books. This movie is a travesty
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE BACK
Yeah lmao. I just got into the series due to my sister,I didn’t even bother watching any of the movies since she kept on describing how horrible they were.
I read the books after the movies, and I would not say that. The books tell a good story, yes, but the writer often gets bogged down explaining things and forgets to actually write our main heroes as real human beings and characters...
Nicktrains 22 I like both the books and the movie
@@SwiftNimblefoot
PJO is more about the world building then storytelling in my opinion, even though charecters and storytelling aren't half bad
What I found most annoying about this film was how Ares is barely even mentioned, despite him LITERALLY BEING THE MAIN VILLAIN IN THE BOOK.
Right?! He was so cool in the first book!
He technically wasn’t mentioned in the movie just a name drop for his kids
@@DrDolan2000 He was just such a badass! The ultimate shitty parenting story gone wrong, and it fits in so well with the mythology. Fuck there are so many nitpicky problems in this movie too
I don't remember him being the villain in the book, just an asshole. Granted I may have forgotten a bit
@@patrickkanas3874 He was the final boss in the book.
Books: Percy is a lovable goofball who tries always tries his best, Annabeth is an intelligent and sarcastic girl with a heart of gold, Grover is a loyal and protective friend, Hades is NOT PORTRAYED AS SATAN, the world is built up and interesting.
Movies: Nah
The books are always better, I really hated the movie.
they're also twelve
i dunno about percy being much of a goofball to be honest, but i agree on the rest
@@puppyhowler yeah 12 AND HE KICKED ARES' ASS. i'd have loved to see that scene
From what your saying, i'd rather read the books :)
Book Percy: my mom is the best person ever and I love and respect her so much.
Movie Percy: welp guess she dead lol
Theres litterly like 6 paragraphs about her cookies
I know right he’s mom is dead and he didn’t even care. Until that demon god came 🙄
Can you spoil a bit more ?
I mean i watched the movie long ago ( or maybe 2 movies )
But from what i saw in the first 10 minutes of the video she wasn't that much
did the books go deep into her psycky or something ?
I mean billions of men exist in thr world and she chose the drunk abuser one to "mask" percy ?
@@waddahyana494 yea she stayed with him because he smelled so bad that it masked Percy's smell from monsters (monsters can smell demigods). And no it didn't go into her psychy because she wasn't the main character but it did go into her and Percy's relationship a lot more. He absolutely adored her and they were really close. It was a big point in the books that just wasn't portrayed in the movies very well.
@@cerealwithafork7819 yeah they didn’t even have the blue food thing in the movie
The lightning bolt
*Book* : A very powerful weapon which can *DESTROY* half of the country
*Movie* : Pew Pew Im gonna shoot you
If they made a WWII movie the Atom Bomb would have been a grenade.
@@tyrant-den884 Technically I think it was a firecracker.
Haha
idk if i'm remembering this right, but although the lightning bolt was DESCRIBED as something that could destroy half the country, wasn't it kinda... pew pew in the books as well?
@@norishimogawa6125 As I remember they never use lightning bolt like they use this in the movie
"Look how they massacred my boy!" - Every person who read Percy Jackson books
Were the books better? I only got a couple chapters deep years ago, it reminded me too much of the Disney Hercules tv series to keep reading
10 times better
@Philip Good i'm honestly surprised that disney hasn't jumped harder on this. Rick Riordan Universe: Triumvirate Endgame
@@arthas640 the final climax is a war in Manhattan but without any normal civilians
@Zooey Kessel what're your thoughts on Disney aging up Artemis Fowl because they didn't want to have a child be a villain?
The books are basically the things you loved about the Lotus Casino scene for the whole thing, with characters that aren't watered down Hollywood versions.
My friend said it best when this was announced to be coming out, and said their opinion didn't change after seeing it: "Percy Jackson is great, and would make a great movie series, but would NEVER get the budget to do it right."
pbrunet44 I’ve never read the books but based on this it could be a pretty decent Netflix original series.
I’d watch it.
agreed it would not get the budget to do it right, but ive always thought it would be best to do it as a tv series live action or animated would do this series right.
Plus the final fight was a thousand times more badass
budget doesn't mean shit if the director/writers turn the characters and stories that made the books succesfull in the first place, into every generic Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings wannabe.
this movie had MORE than enough money put into it to make something great, but you just can't pay "giving a shit" with money.
Fun fact of the day: the author hates the movie just as much as his fans
indeed he does, in fact he hates it badly enough that he called out or even flat out roasted the filmmakers, if you have done badly enough that the author is calling you out then your in big trouble.
I bet he doesnt hate the money
@@alphinmesa9945 he kinda does.
Well good news is we’re getting a tv series where Rich Riordan is much more involved in
@@alphinmesa9945 Actually He does. It reminds him of how badly they """"""Adapted""""""" His book.
What I love most about this movie is how much Rick Riordan HATES the movie
Daughter Of Apollo
This is valid, and I enjoy this fact.
Domino of the West Who? Dare I ask? 😬😬
@@Katetanic who are you asking about?
Katetanic
I’m assuming you are asking about where the facts come from... interviews.
Other than what else or who else you are asking about; I dunno.
Fun Fact, Rick's boggart is Someone coming up to him and saying "I have a question about the movie."
"Had the rest of this movie been this clever-"
(whispers): "The books"
The Musical
@@AnimeMasterManWND oh man, I want to see that musical so bad! Tell me there is a song about exploding toilets?
@@boots5304 No sadly not, but there is a campfire song in which all the halfbloods talk about how shitty there god parents are and Percy sings about how Awesome Sally Jackson is
@@boots5304 you can find the album on UA-cam along with a few animatic with the series my personal recommendation is to use the channel Kallina who is in the middle of going through the entire show. The character designs and timing is just what you'd expect the the characters to act, sound and look like. Here's her animatic for the first number of the show The Day I got Expelled ua-cam.com/video/nkFBAJD4yQo/v-deo.html
@@AnimeMasterManWNDtheres a musical?!!!!!
*The books are a lot more interesting and actually make sense.*
Tell me about it, bro. I believe people call it "writing with an actual brain".
The books were great, this was the biggest clusterf*ck adaptation ever
@@someguy4853 ffs. Who wants to read about greek demigods using guns?
I read all the books and loved them watching this in the cinema really disappointed me
@@someguy4853
The reason why they use swords and classic weapons is because regular metals don't hurt monsters. They use celestial bronze (I believe this is the name in English), a special magic metal that does, among other magic materials and relics. But as you can imagine, it's a lot more rare than regular metals, so they save it mostly for melee weapons. One guy has made bullets out of it once in the books, but it was for a special occasion: an actual army of monsters, where it was almost impossible to miss a target and waste ammo.
Now tell me if the movie came even close to coming up with something that logical or interesting.
When Critic praises the ingenuity of the Lotus scene I held back screams of "cuz it's actually one of the least tinkered with parts of the book!"
It's and the parts they did change piss me off. The biggest is that how the staff violently try and force them to stay, when in the myth and the book nothing was forcing the people to stay with the lotus eaters, it's just that it's basically heaven so why would you ever want to leave it? Hell the only reason they do so in both the book and the myth is because there are important things that must be done.
@Animestar17 In the books there are no Lotus flowers and Percy finds out something is wrong on his own when he notices someone that looks like he's stuck in the 70s only to realise he actually from the 70s.
@@invidatauro8922 Yup its magic. It makes you forget everything important in your life. After a couple of hours, Percy could barely remember his mom's name. It makes you never want to leave, to stay completely engrossed in the games there. And to top it all off, it makes time speed up, a couple hours in the hotel is 5 days outside. A couple weeks in the hotel is 30 years outside. A month in the hotel is 70 years outside.
Lol
@@en4833 just ask nico and Bianca
24:25 rick had no control over the movie. Even he hated it. He sent in a bunch of suggestions for it but they took none of them. He didn't make that line.
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Yeah, he also mentioned that he never saw the movies because they would ruin his characters for him.
I just gave the 100th like to your comment!
I think NC meant "writers" as the writers of the movie. I am glad that Rick didn't approve of these movies because they did NOT do the books justice.
alnaddabi I think the movie ruined his characters for everyone who saw it
The books, 75098209 times: Annabeth is BLONDE, okay?
The movie: nah.
The Movie: She can take Clarice's role, right?
And Grover isn’t a stereotypical black side kick, but a hippy guy with his own important dreams and motervation that’s different to Percy’s
They couldn't even bother throwing in a line in the second movie llike "I got tired of dying it"
Is that number accurate?
I KNOW.
To quote myself from five minutes ago, "What five-year-old did the casting?"
The fact that I’m constantly thinking “no, that’s explained by x detail in the books” speaks LEAGUES about this movie’s awful worldbuilding. Easily in my top 2 most hated films.
I know right especially the mist the wheelchair, and the fact that I recall you being allowed to use powers in captured the flag.
@@icecreamhero2375 the fact that technology does not work for demigod too.. luke was not a gamer......
@@TehWhiteTiger I always wanted to see this happen in Percy Jackson. You know those cups that can have any drink. What if Percy asked for hydroclric acid and dumped it on someone.
icecream hero what if he accidentally spilled that on Luke when he was still in the Hermès cabin. I mean, Kronos would probably find a new follower, but it would at least slow him down. Plus it’s explained in the extended book Percy Jackson’s Greek Gods that ghosts can’t lie, so when Luke’s judged in the underworld by the three golden masked men, a lot if not all of Kronos’s plans would’ve been unveiled to the Gods, and they could’ve stopped him while he was still weak in Tartarus. I take these books too seriously...
The fact that Doug doesn’t tell us about the all the things the movie doesn’t explain with examples from the books speaks leagues about his awful preparation for a book-based movie.
I love how Critic just refers to Annabeth as that weird laugh-cough noise Grover made when Percy asked what her name was.
I always found that funny too
That one sound is a more accurate representation of this movie character than calling her "Annabeth."
*Nostalgia Critic:* _Pointing out all the plot holes, poor character performances, and stupid story elements_
*People who have read the books:* *_Strained tea kettle noises_*
It's practically Jem and the Holograms all over again. LOL
@@dnmstarsi Except the film's more faithful, believe it or not.
@@DigiDestined13 I can see that. This film does have Percy Jackson even for a coloring book movie.
He said himself that he couldn't speak for the books and hoped that they were better (they are) so I don't imagine he was dissing the books at all
He did say he wasn't talking about the books and fans of them probably agree with most of what he said about the movie.
This movie broke me as a tween. It ignored the lore of the books and fell back on tired tropes so hard that I could make a list several pages long. A DISGRACE I SAY
Yup the movie pissed me off soo damn much. They even forgot the chimera chihuahua.
At least it wasn't as bad as the Eragon movie
@@gamingdragonofmordor3770 ... That... Don't remind me...
I will have my revenge.
Dragon Ball Evolution, Beautiful Creatures, and the Twilight series.
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I Agree
Is it bad I watch movies somewhat randomly and I have horrible memory oh wait for this movie that’s great 😁
English Teacher: today we're going to be reading the Illiad
That one kid who read the Percy Jackson books: *It's like I was made for this*
English viking kaden you should put this meme on Reddit don’t waste your talent here
honestly this is me tho
I mean, Percy Jackson inspired me to become a history major and mythology reader. Sooo, yes, this is very accurate. Make a meme about this!
@@QueenofHearts1098 PJO fans make this meme all the time.
I definitely understand that
the beauty of the percy jackson books and fandom is that the fandom doesnt need to imagine themselves as the main character, and we dont want to. we imagine ourselves as another character in the world, we go along with percy and his friends. we're with him and cheering him on his first day of camp, crying with him as he see's beloved friends die, and we laugh at his corny jokes. the books use that angle to give him an actual personality and make him someone who we love. he has good and bad traits, he has people he loves, he has things that are usually sacrificed to make a character more "relatable". hes unique, and not really like anyone. i cant relate to half of the things he does and is, however i relate to the world itself. a place where kids who dont fit in and lose hope in themselves belong. its even easier for me, a kid with adhd who's disorder holds them back, it gives me a place to feel like i belong. it even gives a way for people without adhd or dyslexia to see themselves in this world, with characters such as percy's mom, and racheal, but they too have personalities and goals many people dont. when my problems to do with adhd get really bad, i'll often start reading percy jackson books. you know what i wont do?? watch the FUCKING movies that take everything i love OUT THE WINDOW. they are a disgrace to the books which make me feel warm and comforted, and i hope the show is better then the clusterfuck that were the movies.
that sounds like sonic's fandom
@@martinsolia except here they won't die of slitting their wrists.
so instead of relating to the main character, you're a self insert. yeah, real literary genius there.
@@heckicusdoomicuswizardus1382 I think they're just saying its competent, unlike most of the ya genre.
I don't think that's at all what the op meant
The books were actually well constructed and subverted expectations.
The films were generic and dumb and changed the plot completely...
I mean the while Lotus concept was straight up from the books. Its the one time the movie did something close to them
Still inaccurate
@@BlockeologyThetwinster coincidentally also the best part of the movie, who would've figured?
They also changed Annabeth's hair color. Also, aren't the main cast characters supposed to be TWELVE?
Films? You mean there is more?
The Percy Jackson films are a cautionary tale told among the writer communities whenever Hollywood wants to make a live-action adaptation of their books
Never sell your book rights lol
@@LewysC
Or, if you decide, "sure, they can make movies out of my babies," make sure you're involved heavily in the production.
If for some reason I write a book so popular that it's being made into a movie, I am going to be on fucking set every fucking day to make that shit is right.
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They are adapting the bartimaeus sequence and I love those books. I am so afraid and worried because most of the books series I love have been adapted horribly into movies. Why can't film directors stick to the books?
You know listening to the NC nitpick stuff that was explained in the book really makes you realize how much BS the mist covers up.
Edit: thanks this is the most likes I've ever had for a comment.
Just to clarify I dont think plotholes in themselves are a good determinant of the quality of various fiction because every fictional story has them. I think they're only a problem if they break your suspension of disbelief. If you are watching a movie and go wait that doesn't make any sense cause of something that happened earlier it's very difficult to regain and maintain your continued investment and enjoyment in the movie.
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Yea, still kinda thought it was cool tho, atleast for me, I didn’t really care if it was an “excuse” or not to do awesome sh*t
Yeah...he reviews movies, not books
Mike Cabral Thank you. The movie is horrific, but let's not pretend that the book is a masterpiece 😂
Yeah they puled a lot of dumb stuff with that lol
I love how potter is resented because he has the most personality, pretty clever
That and Doug loves picking on HP fans lol. Same as Pokémon fans.
Not saying HP is more than a shitty oveeblown fandom, but it sadly is the better "young adult" adaptation. Doug's attack on Potter is an extension on how much better the adaptation(at least based off the books, not the author's later trans+/anti-trans viewpoints) was handled.
@@nodorog448 yeah the bar for YA seems to be unfortunately low sometimes
@@nodorog448 Her views aren't anti trans, they're pro woman. Her argument is that the female identity is being erased and co-oped by men. She's not denying they are people, just that it takes more to be a woman than cutting off your peen and stuffing your sack into that small testicle cavity in your abdomen and pretending it's now a vagina. It's like giving someone a skin graft and pretending they are a dime piece instead of disfigured. My statement isn't a condemnation of the grafted, only that they aren't the same as someone who isn't grafted
Most personality? Need I remind you that Neo used to eat at that one place.
Percy is isn’t even shown to be a “loser” in the movie however in the book it spent a fair portion of the book showing that he is being bullied and nobody even cares
James Games well not exactly it actually more that he is trying to defend the bullied kid (Grover) but not being able to do anything without getting in trouble
At least until he unintentionally fought back
To be honest, at the beginning of the series most of the other demigods were indifferent to Percy at worst. If anyone in the book called Percy a "loser" (other than an unconvincing Clarisse), that person would be Percy himself. Considering his background with an abusive stepfather and multiple expulsions until he turned twelve in the books, this self-depreciation is somewhat justified.
@@gamingdemigodxiii5630 I was mostly taking about when he was in the school with Nancy who bullied both Grover and Percy
@@jamescolm1133 Oh... well... um... I didn't realize that. My apologizes.
EDIT: Though Nancy might not have been the first bully Percy had to deal with, only the first that we see.
Having Harry Potter failing at being a generic youth protagonist because he's actually an interesting character with a well-defined personality was a nice touch.
He actually just hates Harry Potter
@@jamescallanan2443 and how would you happen to know that?
@@thezeitos469 He's mentioned it in other videos. Admittedly, hate is a strong word, but he's made it clear that he doesn't like the movies. He messes with Potter heads the same way he messes with Pokemon fans. He doesn't hate the franchise he just enjoys screwing with us.
@@Hewylewis Not really. It's all in good fun and as someone who is both a Potterhead and a Pokemon fan I think it's funny enough. He literally eats the angry comments of salty Pokemon fans. That shit cracks me up
I actually stopped reading the books because Potter's only character trait was his selfishnes. He's always complaining about his life problems to his friends like a jerk. Also, as a young boy it was pretty easy to see that the books were written by a woman who doesn't know how boys think
"How the hell did he hide horse legs in a god damn wheelchair?"
Ignoring the fact that 2 minutes earlier a sword came out of a pen.
@Goddess 18 what mist?
@@thelionssin701 A thing in the Percy Jackson world that makes things invisible to the eyes of humans.
+@@Igorcastrochucre In the next movie, they turn the Mist into a fucking spray
@@Igorcastrochucre not invisible, just either unnoticed or believable, for example Tyson just looks like he has two eyes rather than just being completely invisible
Someone actually built a pen sword. Hiding horse legs in a wheelchair is CONSIDERABLY less believable.
Spoiler Alert.
Things missing from the book:
1. There is a thing called the Mist, which prevents normal mortals from noticing the Greeks gods.
2. Percy is a hilarious protagonist with all the one-liners.
3. The mission is to get Zeus's lightning bolt back from the Underworld, but Percy is only really going to save his mom.
4. The pearls they're searching for in the movie were just given to Percy in St. Louis in the book.
5. Sally stays behind in the Underworld, while Annabeth and Grover only try to sacrifice themselves to save Sally.
6. Percy has a fight with Ares, not Luke, at the end of the book.
7. Percy can talk to horses.
8. Capture the Flag was more fun in the book and Poseidon claimed Percy as his son when it was finished.
9. Percy was twelve, not sixteen.
10. Percy was given the quest by the Oracle and left Camp Half-Blood in full view of everyone. He didn't need to sneak out.
There is more, but these were the biggest inconsistencies to come to mind. I'm not saying the movie was perfect, far from it, but please, read the book if you want the whole story. I'm afraid the Critic's mean-spirited critique toward one of my favorite book series might be turning people away.
Also, leave Harry Potter alone. He doesn't deserve to be yelled at and abused by the Critic.
Also, why people aren't using guns: Magical metals. The weaponry in the series is made from specific types of metals that are the only thing that can hurt the mythical beings of the books. In the half-blood camp the most common is Celestial bronze, thought there are others.
And vice versa, these don't work on mortals.
I know I've never read the Percy Jackson books myself, nor have I seen the movies, but I'm glad to see someone defending a book series they know and love so well. Respect! :)
I will say that it's the Critic's job to review movies, not the books, so I am kinda split on how he should review movies based on books. I mean, if he's not interested in reading the books (maybe to save on time), I should say it should be fair for him to at least consult the fanbases for the books the movies are based on so he'll know some facts going into a review. I mean, if he's seen all of Avatar: The Last Airbender before reviewing the Last Airbender movie, why can't he go to a little more length on stuff like this? If he doesn't like it, fine, but I'd say if he did do a little more research of the films based on books he's not a fan of, it would show a little more respect for his audience(s).
Also, I totally agree, Harry Potter is awesome. He does not deserve to be abused by the Critic. I honestly thought that was the most mean-spirited part of this review. Very disheartening. :/
@@AishaVonFossen I get that the Critic is trying to judge a movie on its own merit, but at the same time, no movie is going to perfectly represent a book. Rick Riordan, the author of the Percy Jackson series, has five books to get through the story. It makes the experience much richer, especially since we're in Percy's point-of-view. You feel like you're there with Percy, learning and growing with him.
As for the two movies, they only had so much time. We're not in Percy's point-of-view and so you feel more like an outsider and the things they change make the story feel muddled.
I agree. It is disheartening that the Critic is so dismissive of both Harry Potter and Percy Jackson. They are both well defined, spirited characters and he just ignores their best qualities by choosing to only focus on what he considers to be their worst aspects.
@@elizabethjanemorgan3607 Oh yeah, it is common that movies aren't always close to the books, though I will say that some film adaptations get closer to the original source materials than others. I'm sure the books are much richer, as they take more of their time to tell a much more elaborate story. And to be honest, I kinda like the idea of the "wowed youngster" cliche, since we are seeing it in the main character's point of view, as someone connected to the fantastical world, and yet entirely brand new to it as well. I will agree with some of the tired tropes that the Critic points out about the "wowed youngster" cliche, but then again, who wouldn't be wowed by being introduced to a new world? One of the ways that made Harry so relatable for me is that like us, he was always wowed by being introduced to new parts of the Wizarding World he had never seen before in every book/film. And based on what you say, it sounds like the same thing for Percy.
Yeah, I can see what you're saying about the movie's point of view. I guess it's pretty common in movies for their points of view to shift between all the characters, I guess in an attempt to flesh them out, but then again, it can also distract from the point of view in the story that really matters, like, as you say, Percy.
Yeah, while I agree that Harry had some weak points in his character (but then again, as any character does, even the best ones), I agree, Harry is a well-defined, spirited character. And honestly, Harry has had to do a shit ton of work that really a lot of the adults in the Wizarding World should have been more on top of themselves, instead of, you know, leaving a *KID* to save *their* day! I don't care if he was some kind of prophesied "chosen one," he was still a kid who was thrown into a whole other environment that started out completely new to him, and he had to learn how it all worked, on top of defeating a powerful overlord, AND juggling his wizarding studies and personal life all at the same time! Harry definitely has my respect for surviving all that crap. LOL
@@revstalker7334 In one of the sequel books (I believe it was the third book) Annabeth's father makes bullets out of the special metal and uses them on a plane machine gun and it's decently effective.
Aquaman was a better Percy Jackson movie than the *actual* Percy Jackson movie.
Yea, I said it.
No shit.
Ohhh that must be why I liked it so much
Mira reminded me of Annabeth: Shut up Seaweed Brain.
Oddly enough I think Jason Mamoa would be a fantastic choice to play Poseiden if these books ever get the adaptation they deserve
@@AnimeMasterManWND That's actually a fantastic idea!
Dear directors who want to write something with Greek mythology.
HADES IS NOT SATAN!!!
HE IS NOT EVIL
THE ONLY MYTH WHERE HE DOES SOMETHING VILLAINOUS IS WHEN HE JUSTIFIABLY PUNISHES SOMEONE
Well, there's the Persephone myth...
@@soul6733 Good point
I remember that TV series of demigods was more accurate to what Hades is in Greek mythos.
Yeah, Hades is usually pretty chill in the underworld in mythology (He even understands that his domain has more people than the living world). It's always annoying to see adaptations where he's reduced to 'devil trope'
more that he's no worse than any of the other Gods which were all massive assholes who abused their powers at every opportunity.
Why do they keep doing Hades wrong? In the actual mythology he's a chill dude.
cause the devil ruling Hell underground archtype
In the books Hades isn’t even the villain, he’s just minding his business
Watch Lindsay Ellis's mini-canon review of Hades
Because why would they use the actual villain from the books when devil man is right there
@@louiscorona8465 In the books he even lampshades the trope asking why everyone thinks he's always the bad guy.
Considering the fact that one of the major conflicts in the series was godly parents being divine deadbeats who allowed their children to die/suffer without any love, support, or protection, the whole Poseidon-bails-Percy-out-constantly thing is a huge slap in the face. Percy has a complicated relationship with his father; he wanted to make him proud but was often let down and hurt/confused by his distance. Like Luke, he had to struggle to come to terms with his identity and godly heritage and even though he didn’t betray the gods, he never let them off the hook for their shitty behavior, either. GOD, the book is so much better, I’m going to go back to pretending it doesn’t exist
Rick Riordan wrote a letter to all teachers saying that he would rather have his teeth pulled out without anesthesia than have students watch the movie
Don't you mean WITHOUT anesthesia?
Unfortunately, the first time I saw this movie was when I was at my school. I guess my teachers never read that letter!
I am just as disappointed in Rick for letting this happen as Harry Potter's movies were only as goos because of tight author control on them while Riordan was hands off obviously. He should have learned by this point in time that it is a rarity for books to be adapted properly and it's as much the author's responsibility to take initiative as anyone else's.
@@alecazam6755 he tried and they didn't want his help..he wrote like a huge list of suggestions and the movie people pretty much just threw it away
@@ThePFloyd65 that's unfortunate, though didn't Rowling contractually make it so they'd HAVE to listen to her to a certain extent?
I’d stop being a horrible teacher to Harry Potter before he names his kid after you.
Oh my God this one better go down in the books. I applaud you sir
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*Destruction 100*
I'm sorry, i'm unworthy, i don't get the joke....PLEASE KIND SIR, ENLIGHTEN ME
Depressing dot Co.
In the books/ movies, Severus Snape was a horribly mean teacher to Harry Potter. Then years later Harry had a son and gave him the middle name “Severus”.
Here's fun facts they changed,removed or fucked up from the book:
-Percy and Annabeth were 12 in books;
-Grover was not black;
-No explanetion of the mist;
-I don't remember a hydra in the first book;
-NO FRICKING ARES;
-The reason why Percy's birth is a no-no;
-Portrayal of Hades;
-No retrieving a thingy for Ares;
-The bed shop;
-Portrayal of Charon
-No Cerberus;
-Portrayal of the underworld;
-Sally was the one who stayed in underworld, not Grover
-Capture the flag (it was not red vs blue)
-No Argus;
-No mention of Kronos
-No fight between Percy and Ares;
-Luke's betrayal, it was different in the book
Um, not to mention Persephone wasn't a CHILD PREDATOR in the book. I don't understand why more people aren't freaked out by that. 😩
Well, Percy and Annabeth were 12 in the FIRST book; I'm pretty sure they got older as the series went on.
It never bothered me if somebody flipped a character's race (unless the plot required that character to be that specific race) so I don't mind Grover being black but I cannot forgive them changing Annabeth's hair colour.
@@shneancy220 To be fair it didn't bother me to, heck he was of only characters in the movie interesting to watch
And where was-oh what was her name...Clarisse? That one bitch who was a daughter of Ares I think, who ended up coming around toward the end of the series?
Edit: not to mention that she played an integral role in the ongoing plot lol
50% of comments: "The Percy Jackson books were better than the movie."
Other 50% of the comments: "Leave Harry Potter out of this!"
No, its 49%, 49%, and 2% of both.
@@cardboardcrafter2482 Touché
indeed, they didnt need to put Tamara Potter in with that league of NOT legends, Harry Potter is the best book to movie adaptation since LOTR!
I’m on both sides.
Even though I’m not ridiculously mad when people scorn Harry Potter(especially the author) even putting the movies next to this one is just… no.
I'm dying every time he refers to Annabeth as Grover's laugh 😆👌
Same
An"AHA"beth
Best part of of the review.
@Joel Dioneda Ahh yes, of course. She doesn't deserve the same name lol
well in this movie she may as well actually be "huh Haaaa"
because she sure as hell ain't Annabeth
I'm praying that Percy Jackson and the Olympains will get picked up again and get the respect it deserves. The books were OUTSTANDING and this movie along with its sequel treated it's story and characters as blank states and uninteresting characters in general.
Lego were better
My life goal is to aid the PJ franchise.
What you need is an ANIME series. Each book can be a season, or every two books can be one season. THEN, maybe a year or so after the series ends, you can start up the Heroes of Olympus series!
Well Disney bought the adaptation rights and they published the books so it is up to them what happens now
I want a tv show... Enough said
How to make a good percy Jackson reboot
1.buy the books
2.find a transcript of the books
3.copy it.
4. Go get your google doc of the script
5.paste
6.edit
the company that has the rights to the movie adaptation now, is the one that published the books so it shouldn't be that hard
You forgot step 7: Get Rick to approve personally.
Seriously! I literally got the entire collection again recently for about £15 on amazon
Learning Greece myth in a museum.
Uses Hercules instead of Heracles.
THAT MAKES SENSE!
Yeah, they could have at least said something like, "This is a statue of Heracles, or as you may know him from Roman mythology, Hercules." Problem solved! LOL
Except the books also call him Hercules and this was before they brought the Roman stuff in.
I mean yeah, but by now everyone knows him as Hercules instead of Heracles so if I were to guess it was to keep people from being confused
@@briankelly130 yeah but something weird in Titans curse they say Hercales once but then say Hercules the rest
Its not really wrong. Simply Roman instead of Greek. Its like calling Odysseus, Ulysses.
Books: *amazing world building, character development, dangerous fights, good humour*
Movies: *basically shits on the entire franchise*
Thank god they stopped making movies
WONDERBREAD
@Thatguywiththestuffies UA-cam page. theirs no way you've read a percy Jackson book
@Thatguywiththestuffies UA-cam page. hoo? Cc? Mc? Toa? Please tell me why they all suck
@Thatguywiththestuffies UA-cam page. besides the fact you're"NOT LIKE OTherGIRls"
Percy Jackson
I was heavily invested in the book series growing up and the movie took one gigantic dump on it.
I saw the movie first and liked okay. Then I read the books and now I hate it.
Seriously. The first movie screw up so bad I don't even know HOW they managed to make a second since all the actual story elements were botched. The whole plot of the books hinges on anticipation for Percy's eventual sixteenth birthday due to a prophecy. So naturally, lets make him already 16 in the movie!
The problem with this film is that it doesn't follow the books at all and skips all the good parts of the books it just changes stuff without it making any sense
So in other words:
It's a completely normal book-to-movie adaptation
What about the first one? I thought it followed the book pretty well. Sure it took a few liberties here and there, but overall, I thought it was pretty good. (I haven't seen or read the second one, though.)
@@rhiannonthrasher7747 the second movie was horrible compared to the first movie. Yes they first movie was bad in what they changed. But the second movie did something that completely screws up the rest of the series
Sounds like every Harry Potter Movie Chris Columbus directed.
not even just the first book. Wasn't the Hydra in book 2? not book 1?
I love how the one part that critic loves, the lotus casino, is the part almost ripped directly from the book.
13:24 You wanna know how?
He has a goddamn garage inside of that wheelchair
I'm dead serious.
Łukasz Bałut Leo made a few upgrades.
Yeah. In the books, it's mentioned that the wheelchair was enchanted to make room for Chiron's legs. If only the movie cared about the small details like the books did.
The mist
They hanged he entire story, are you really surprised they left out little details like that?
Łukasz Bałut it’s bigger on the inside ey?
The lotus eater part of the movie was the best part. And the most accurate to the book. Funny coincidence.
@@Ze_eT True the Lotus Eater connection was more overt in the movie, but the scene was more deep in the book since Percy managed to figure out on his own that people had been trapped in here for years and managed to force himself to leave.
The allegory for addiction was way stronger in the book, the Lotus Casino drew people in just by giving all sorts of entertainment to distract them from all their troubles and concerns. They just stay there and ignore anything else.
Percy and the gang didn't steal a car while being chased by guards, they walked out the front door while the casino employees were tempting them to stay by offering them a membership with access to all sorts of new games. It was a less action-packed escape but overall it was a way more unpleasant experience for them all since they had to fight their urges to just stay.
But instead, the movie has LSD flower cakes and Lady Gaga montages.
@@Ze_eT except in greek the word lotus means persimmons as in the fruit which is what they actually ate, not lotus flowers, so it's inaccurate in both book and movie
@@hollywoo81 Oh well.
I appreciate your profile picture. Glad to see I’m not the only Over The Garden Wall fan here.
@@hollywoo81 Wait, it wasn't inaccurate in the book because it got never mentioned in the book.
The other day, I kid you not, I was in a job training thing and the instructor started off with “as you know” and immediately I thought “shit, I’m in a bad movie”
Don’t worry, critics have no hold on you.
Well, your peers do, but they’re nicer than the critics.
I'm only halfway through, but I love how everything you don't understand is something that was explained in the books. Literally, everything.
Just shows how much Dog Poop the movie was
@Soham Chandra
Exactly
That's kinda why this movie is a horrible adaptation. A good adaptation should be able to stand up on it's own, without the source material propping it up. As an example, look at Harry Potter. Sure, the movies change a lot of things, but they still stand up and make sense without reading the books.
@@KorGarrot Much less so the further the books go on.
What was that piece of glass in Deathly Hallows Part 1 again?
@@Double-R-Nothing oh yeah, in the movies I guess they never talked about the mirror
"Heads up"
You say that BEFORE you cut someone's head off.
Not after.
That just doesn't make any sense.
I mean come on. Use your head.
I guess she... lost her head.
Well, at least she doesn't have to worry about anything anymore.
Must be a weight lifted off of her shoulders.
Percy got ahead of himself, he should've said it first and cut after.
Well you could say it afterwards to give off a sense of ironicism
Teddy Baker she’s got no body to blame but herself.
The books: Yeah Annabeth is blonde, Percy has sea green eyes, he doesn't just chill underwater it's more like he has a bubble, Grover isn't black, and Percy found out his heritage during war games which actually allowed time for Luke to be shown as a guy who just wanted to make things good for everyone in his cabin with him.
The movie: Nah
TheRealKnight32 You forgot another thing they got wrong in the movie
Chiron has the body of a white stallion
He isn’t a chestnut colored stallion.
Can’t you guys get anything right in movie based off of a successful book series?
I actually always imagined Grover as black. They never say his skin colour in the books and the image just stuck in my head
James Callanan I know right? I think he’s much better black. And I guess after this movie came out I saw art of the characters and how they were supposed to look like and I saw Grover and oh boy I was like Grover is much better black than white. Don’t get me started on Nico de Angelo. The fanart is way better.
Yes and the second one...talia
And those were the least important changes they did in the movie. I really don't care about their skin/eye/hair colours (but in the books, there's a lot of variety), but the changes they did to the Story and characters? Its kinda devastating 🙈
I haven't seen this much Potter abuse since those new movies about Grindelwald.. :D
peter obermuller that’s was a good burn
Aside from the fact that those movies are good.
@@Antonia-hp5ggPerhaps they are, (Matter of personal taste i suppose)
@Pferd Schild For me the films are good. I loved the second one.
Snape would be proud, lol.
Having just re-read the series, one of the things that stands out to me watching the movie first time through is how Ms. Dodds immediately tells Percy in her first attack "you stole the lightning bolt" instead of just assuming his guilt and attacking him on sight, and then later asking "where is it (without saying its name)" like she did in the book. By being vague and indirect, it set up the Kindly ones to be more mysterious, left it up for Grover and Annabeth to theorize that maybe there was more going on there than Hades being the Thief.
Just a perfect early red flag that story telling and Subtlety had no meaning in the movie lol.
It's just like how Percy in the books didn't immediately get put in the Poseidon cabin. He actually spent the first week or two with the Hermes cabin because that's where demigods who've not had their parent confirmed stay.
This is just another reason the books are better
Oh come on. Harry Potter clearly has a catchphrase; Expelliarmus!
JSB
Yeah, pretty much, I think it was book seven where they even tried to demand Harry to not use it in public, since it gives him away, but he replies back that it’s his most helpful/useful spell!
JSB don’t forget Expecto Patronum
@@arpodyssey7913 He only busts that one out on special occasions.
@@Domin0Head That's amazing.
Except for the 3rd one, where it was EXPECTO PATRONUM!!!!!
A FEW of the dumb changes they made from the book:
*Percy and Annabeth are 12 in the first book, not teenagers
*No mention of Clarisse (daughter of Ares and Percy's nemesis) in the movie.
*No Mr. D aka Dionysus (overseer of the camp) in the movie
(Yes I know they were both in the sequel but let's face it the movies were already dead to society by then)
*Persephone's pearls were something they happened across by chance, not Dora the Explorer-type checkpoints
*Percy didn't learn he was the son of Poseidon until the water healed him in capture the flag
*Annabeth was the first person Percy met at camp, and they don't start out with animosity, just tepid awkwardness.
*Percy is SENT on the quest to the underworld to get the bolt back from Hades and clear his name (he doesn't just sneak out), who everyone thinks really stole it.
*Ares the war god is SUPER important in the book. HE gives the crew the lightning bolt hidden in a backpack given to him by Luke.
*Luke being revealed as the villain isn't revealed until after Percy gets back to camp, and it's actually a decently done twist.
I can forgive them aging up the characters for the film if it means we avoid any Jake Lloyd stuff.
Also they completely ignored Annabeth and Luke's past until the second movie and didn't even mention the mist which explained a lot of things that Nostalgia Critic joked about
I remember listening to the Audiobook early last year. I got to the 3rd book but stopped cause I had a few other things going on. All these points are correct! Maybe one day someone will adapt the book correctly instead of the hot garbage we got =/
President Kudsi right but if they hadn't done such a shit job with the adaptation then Jake Lloyd stuff wouldn't be a problem
@@nifralo2752 The only real way to do a proper film adaptation of Percy Jackson is in the same way they did Harry Potter IE with a set of child actors that are the right age and have a film a year as they grow older and go through each adventure in the books. Plus a big plot point in the books is Percy's age because he has just hit the age where he is strong enough for monsters to start noticing him more, and Percy coming of age is also a plot point in the later books.
The part that I was genuinely offended was the part that Percy left Grover in the underworld. PERCY LEAVES HIS MOTHER BEHIND IN THE NOVEL. He starts this mission to rescue his mother, but when the time comes he decides to sacrifice his dearest wish for his friends and world. That's the moment when a troublesome teenager truly becomes a hero. And here, as Doug points out, he is an asshole who literally kills his own friend for his mother.
Hmm, would you rescue your mother or your friend ? In reality I would never leave my mother back in hell
Spelter The issue was that Percy needed Grover and Annabeth if he was going to stop the war, and he said in the book that he would rather take his mother’s place than sacrifice his friends.
Zachary Gilmore actually in both the book and the movie it still doesn’t make sense as to why Percy just doesn’t leave the bitchy cunt in Hell because if she’s not going to date Percy in the books or the movie than her character serves no purpose at all.
Light Yagami Annabeth was a key character to Luke’s redemption and development. (Spoilers from the books Luke was the one who was the true hero by the end of the series) Annabeth was also the link that permitted Percy not die due the alchilles curse.
I feel bad for your parents if you think that not wanting to leave them in hell makes you an asshole. I also question your morals if you think trading your own mother who loved and raised for two people you just met is heroic. And did Percy take Riptide and decapitate Grover? No, so he did not “literally kill” him.
Percy's Mom still dates Gabe in the books because his "pungent odor" repels the monsters that would otherwise come to attack Percy.
Son: How old was I when you left?
Dad: You were a plus sign on the test old.
(crying)
Your dad left your mom when he found out she was pregnant?
What Doug didn't know was that was actually right. Poseidon left well before Percy was born.
Nah, he left as soon as the sperm fertilized the egg...!
Hercules was the Roman form. Greek form was Heracles.
The more you know
honestly though, I think most people prefer the Hercules form
Thing is, ypu can't make a movie about Greek mythology and have a Greek centaur who has been around at the actual Ancient Greece call Heracles "Hercules".
Maybe it had something to do with Heracles translating to “Hera’s (Zeus’ wife and sister) glory”, and Hera HATED him!
firepiplup To be fair, due to various pop culture iterations in the West, Hercules is usually used interchangeably in both the Greek and Roman retellings.
Though IIRC at least the books called him Heracles.
Yup.
You can't avoid the fourth Alvin and the Chipmunks movie forever Doug!
Count Dooku I also want Doug to review that film.
Doug: Come at me bitch
He can’t avoid the Green Hornet 2010.
The Chipmunk reviews are some of the best reviews he ever made
Summon David Cross
Spoiler Alert: That ending where you all had to look on your phones to see if Jubilee was actually a vampire made me laugh for five minutes. Well done.
NC about the only thing loyal to the book: This is actually the only clever thing in this movie! If the rest of the movie had been this clever it would’ve been pretty awesome.
Oof.
Percy was supposed to he a doltish adhd ridden goof.
Not boring protagonist number 100
...with a cliched Justin Beiber haircut to boot. ugh
not to mention he was 12
@@brookedovale exactly.
Yeah I loved Percy's sense of humor. Book Percy obviously not movie Percy. Movie Percy sucks.
Indeed. He wasn't a complete and utter moron, he was a decent kid with bad luck sure, but he wasn't exactly book smart. He was more the street smart kid with issues at home, given he had a single mom who married an asshole to protect him and his only friend was the weird kid with a limp
And then the demon from hell comes in.
I believe you made an error. Percy Jackson is a book series. There is no Percy Jackson movie.
Stage 1: Denial
@@aidangordon2713 WHY DID THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS HAD TO RUIN A PERFECT BOOK?!
Larry Belenossi the answer is always the same “money “
@@dusathemaid Stage 2:Anger
Same with Eragon.
I love how he never calls Ha Annabeth since they’re completely different characters
Luke in the movie: “my dads a jerk, I’ve never met him”
Luke in the play: “I met the guy once, and once was enough”
Even more evidence that TLT play is more accurate to the book
i forget, luke's dad was hermes right?
Nori Shimogawa yeah
Waiting for someone to redo the movies as an actually good series
While that would be nice, given what they've done with these two films, the prospect of any company giving a team the time of day (let alone a check) is unlikely at best for such a project.
It makes me wonder why they do this? Yes, somethings in books need to be cut to save time, this is to be expected. However, to quote a certain book-tuber, "you can't just keep hacking and hacking away at a plot until it fits a two-hour run-time!" And he's right about that. Some things need to be cut or trimmed down, but when you hack away at a plot or God-forbid, change it so drastically that it's barely even remotely like the original source material, I got to ask "why even bother?"
Or, if you're going to change things, give a reason and then do it the best you can. I argue that you should be as faithful to the plot and characters as possible, but I understand you can't have a movie go on for 6+ hours, or less someone will get greedy and slice up those six hours into three movies when the original book barely had enough for one movie, let alone three.
The point is... why? The original novel's story is simple but complex. Yes, Percy and his friends still went to these locations but for different reasons. I kinda get where they were coming from, making the pearls into a treasure hunt and spreading them across the country... but at the same time, the book's plot was MORE then serviceable enough to follow, there was no need to change it or dumb it down to a simple treasure hunt when they STILL went to these places (and more-so if I remember right.) Why make it into a treasure hunt? Why dumb it down into an even simpler story by removing the Oracle and making it into a cliche rebellious youth storyline? I don't get it, nor will I probably ever.
MrRjwagner I was saying maybe a Netflix series could do this justice, like the Series of Unfortunate Events series.
Give it a few more years, there will be people who grew up with the books experienced in the film industry by then.
I didn't even see the second one
I'd go with an animated series. I'd like the same animation as Voltron or maybe She ra
Percy Jackson : One the most inaccurate movie adaptations of all time .
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory has them beat
Nathaniel Foga I think that the dragon ball movie is mor inaccurate
As a huge fan of the book series this movie made me very upset.
Nathaniel Foga *cries in Avatar the Last Airbender*
Original Name
Let’s not forget every Disney movie based on a fairytale
"Actually for me it's cruel and a quite common punishment." Love this line.
Poor Harry Potter. The weak link due to his movie being actually similar to the book series
And before his greater character development around book three...
I think harry was bullied cause hes the only one who has the most personality out of all them + alot of people go threw a harry potter phase
It doesn't help that Jubilie was a total bitch to her, I mean him.
@@Marinealver she only did that to feel better about the fact that the only x-men movie she was in was x-men apocalypse and that was just a cameo
@@thyvideomaker3063 Harry is a character we can identify with because his struggle to fit in is natural. We follow his story because we want to see where he goes, which comes from us identifying how it would feel to be in that situation. The others are made explicitly so we can imagine ourselves in their place, instead of just following along.
I read both Percy Jackson and Heroes of Olympus, and I'm severely disappointed by the fact that this movie and its sequel are the only things people know about series. Let's all pray and hope that one day, we'll get an accurate and awesome adaptation. Maybe a Netlix animated series in the style of Avatar or Voltron Legendary Defender, so that one day it will get the recognition it deserves.
They did a musical.
A bunch of fantasy books would be better with animated adaptations rather than live-action, but somehow "professionals" do not see that...
The musical is good
Josie Jugalbot yeah the only one thing of accuracy of the books is A FREAKING MUSICAL AND NOT THE DANG MOVIE!!
Amen, dude. The books are actually really good and complex, I'm still to this day so pissed about this movie
also not to mention Poseidon doesn't tell Percy not to eat the flower... AFTER HE'S BEEN THERE FOR A FEW DAYS!
It was done so much better in thr books. There percy found out he hwd to get out on his own instead if being told not to eat them
It's been a while since I read the lightning thief, but didn't the scene where Percy finds out that Lotus Hotel is dangerous go something like "aaaah, everything is going well... wait, that's wrong"
Yep Poseidon is just as bad a father as triton was to Ariel
@@AndreNitroX eh. I wouldn't say bad more... Letting his son do stuff on his own
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 and nearly die so so so so many times over easy things that a lil bitty parental guidance would have helped
I like how Harry Potter is the runt of the students learning to be bland characters. It kinda subtly says that Harry is more intersting than the bland characters in other films
I didn’t even realize that symbolism, I just thought Dough just didn’t like Harry Potter but him being more interesting and awesome than the characters actually makes a lot of sense!
@@DoomBoy8000 could be a mix of both
@mr.niceguy8000, Doug Walker (not in character) positively reviewed the Harry Potter films though in character he might hate Harry Potter
24:40 "Call off the amber alert guys. This unemployed alcoholic stepfather says the child is the kidnapper this time."
The thing about them not using guns. That has been done and to a great effectiveness (enchanted metal Guns were strapped to a fricking plane and decimated an entire army) however the enchanted metal is very rare and----
DAMN IT DID THE MOVIE READ ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE COVER?????
of they did they clearly skimmed the wiki page
Haha that scene with Dr. Chase and his biplane is still one of my all-time favorites.
They saw the title and guessed the plot
How dare you to think someone in Hollywood reads books?
"Was there going to be a very obvious betrayal that for some reason still surprised you?"
Everyone: "Yeess!"
Neo: "Noo?"
I absolutely lost it.
Honestly there was no really obvious betrayal in Harry Potter either. Quirrel made sense in retrospect, but it caught me by surprise. Granted I was 6 or 7 when I read the first book.
@@SengokuTheGouda and snape wasnt betrayal at all, considering that him killing you know who was part of their plan lol
@@SengokuTheGouda only thing thats somewhat close to betrayal in potter was pettigrew
@@SengokuTheGouda Yeah i didn't get that at all, i think there's too much Harry Potter hate here.
Well The Matrix had Cypher and an Agent Smith-possessed Bain haha
i watched the movie for the first time without knowing how much the fandom hates it and was absolutely appalled to find out that the writers basically changed everything. it’s not the same story.
There are instances where that worked. For example, the How to Train Your Dragon franchise is a much looser adaptation.
I hated the Percy Jackson movies! They were terribly acted and casted. They also got some of the main plot points wrong and I wish they wouldn't have made these movies.
The past tense of "cast" is "cast".
In addition, the plot of the second movie combined the second and fifth books.
Brittani Murakami they only made 2
@@domocracydestroyer8219 I know but in my opinion both of them were a huge mistake
@@dortymakaloni7861 the second movie basically combined elements from books 2-5 because they fucking knew they wouldn't get a third movie... Then still teased Talia at the end.
Yeah, anyone who read at least one book of the Percy Jackson series hated the movies
I don’t hate the movie but dear god did they fuck up so many plot lines. Aries daughter wasn’t even in the movie.
I find the movie entertaining if I turn off my brain and forget about the connections to the book and with the changes it has it is rather easy to just disconnect it from the book
I’ve never been so angry after leaving a movie theater after watching this piece of shit
@@malachiowens3423 You mean Clarisse LaRue?
Didn't read the books, still didn't like the movie. It was okay. A decent movie you watch in the background whole doing other stuff. But it wasn't good.
Critic: “First rule of dating always grab a mans sword and use it against him. At least somebody’s learning something!”
Me: wait...
context matters, but even then... 18+?
EmeraldSwords double ontaundra!
Some kinky shiet there.
It is kinda amazing how many plot holes or cliches the books avoided that the movie went purposefully full force in to!
I'm glad you ran with "Ahaa!" being Annabeth's name, that was one of the funniest gags I've seen on here in a while!!
Oh right, that's her name. Sorry, I keep forgetting.
These books were really well done, ESPECIALLY the sequel series Heroes of Olympus.
The books were written by someone who researches Greek, Roman and Egyptian mythologies for a living. The movies were written by people trying to condense that down to a two hour running time and not caring about accuracy.
Don't forget the sequel series to the sequel series that has a completely different main character but exists in the same cannon, The Trials of Apollo and Magnus Chase, both taking place around the same time
@@NightShadowStudios Riordan is just great at producing a universe with mythologies and did a pretty good job mixing them together
personally I thought Heroes of Olympus was kind of lame compared to the first series
@@spider1266 I thought the characters and scenarios were a lot more fun.
I really loved the Percy Jackson book series; it's too bad this movie wasn't as good.
@@madcap3450 Trust me. The Percy Jackson series is incredible. The movie does not do justice to the fascinating world and characters Rick Riordan created. They didn't even come close to the coolness of how Greek mythology blends with modern day America. Ares takes the form of a Hells Angel biker with flaming empty eye sockets. Dionysus is the camp's director as part of a punishment from Zeus for fooling around with nymphs, and takes the form of an extremely pissed off and condescending middle aged man with a perpetual hangover in a leopard pattern shirt, and is a god of wine forced to be sober. Hades is actually terrifying when Percy first encounters him, because he is the first god Percy sees to actually take on a traditional godly appearance, with the deathly pale skin, a crown of bones, black as night robes, dark tunnel like eyes and an army of skeleton bodyguards made up of soldiers from across history.
Honestly I think he should’ve read some of the books before he even reviewed this movie .
MadCap
Percy Jackson had nothing to do with gender or sexuality. Up until the Heroes of Olympus, no one was gay or hinted at it. Even Heroes of Olympus handled it well. I will admit though, Chase series could’ve done it better BUT a lot of Norse mythology (mainly Loki) had trans myths so it’s not that out of place.
@@gracefutrell1912 I would have been great if Critic had read the books first. Of course that would have made Critic furiously enraged over how bad the movie was compared to the book.
Also the book answered some of the questions Critic had like why Percy's mom did stay with Gabe and how did Chiron (Pierce Brosnan) hide his horse body in the wheelchair? For example the wheelchair is a TARDIS, it's bigger on the inside XD.
Even the author who did the Percy Jackson books hated his books turned into movies
17:40
That’s actually not true. In the third book, a guy uses bronze bullets in his plane to kill an army of monsters. Also, in the first book of the second series, there is a shotgun that shoots bronze shells.
Yes
The reason they don’t use it more often cause celestial steel and imperial gold and stygian iron are hard to come by and it would be better to use it to create swords than bullets plus that guy is Annabeth’s father
@@ethancrash2554 Small correction: Celestial Bronze.
@@toxicdemon1315 oh thanks
even the gods couldn't make the mythical materials, and iirc the guy, annabeth's dad, melted down a bunch of her weapons into the bronze penetrators for custom shells used by a sopwith camel.
To be fair, about 85-90% of all the questions you asked could’ve been answered if the movie explained it better or by doing the “Show don’t tell” rule.
I think that's an issue with book adaptations in general. You're adapting source material that is ALL explanation, so you have to find a balance between explaining enough of the intricacies of the books for things to make sense, and not overexplaining and telling rather than showing. It makes it a rather difficult task, although I'm sure you could do a lot better than this movie does
Harry Potter has most of the basic tropes as these other movies, but he does them well.
That’s why he’s picked on xD
Yep😂😂😂
He does have a bit more personality though. Like his passion for quidditch, for example, and his relationships with Hagrid and Dobby, which make him more interesting than just being "the chosen one."
He’s also gay
Why does JK Rowling has to do this
@@NYuu05 Dumbledore is gay not Harry and it was heavily hinted at in the books
Chen Dror It was a meme on how every character in Harry Potter are gay
The whole capture the flag was a lot more extensive in the first book. Originally all the various houses are their own army battalion rather then it being a red vs. blue situation. Most of the time the Demi-Gods don't know who their godparent is until their godparent decides to recognize them. And more often than not that doesn't happen so they are forced to stay in the Hermes House until their godly parent does recognize them. It's during this capture the flag battle where Percy discovers he is the son of Poseidon for the first time.
Guns wouldn't work on Monsters or God's, only Celestial Bronze, Stygian Iron, and Imperial Gold weapons are effective.
Dosen't silver weapons work also? The hunters of artemis uses them, and they seemed just as deadly as the "mythical metal" weapons.
Actually guns can work with the proper ammo, just look at Annabeth's dad in Titan's Curse with his close air support. Awesome-ass scene.
@@saintroddy Goddamn, Annabeth's dad was awesome in that scene. The idea of piloting a biplane equipped with mythical ammos and blasting real monsters from the sky is such an epic idea. Too bad I'd probably never see it truly realized in film...
I think a pump action shotgun that shot celestial bronze bullets was mentioned in passing in the hero's of Olympus books, and in the trails of Apollo, it's explained that because celestial bronze bullets damage guns and the metal is rare so bullets cannot be mass produced, using any kind of gun is impractical
Jaana Humlie remember when annabeth’s dad flew in to use a ww2 plane fireing celestial bronze bullets to kill monsters being an absolute badass even though the mist wouldn’t let him see them
23:29. One of Medusa's powers is that she is VERY convincing. That is why she killed so many people before Perseus killed her
Is that actually part of the lore? Because if so, I didn't know that.
@@augustrempelewert4377She was described to be beautiful before Athena turned her into a gorgon, plus her voice didn't change much, so she used it while hiding her face to trick her victims and lull them into a false sense of security.
One of my big pet peeves is when Hollywood takes Greek mythology and turns it into Christianity lite
Wintermute01001 actually Christianity is Greek mythology blended together and mixed with some Asian & Indian bullshit & some bullshit the Jews made up and then the court on nycia decided what stayed in so the fact that there are parallels is to be expected
@@backupaccountforcooldaddyj7895 Please do try to explain how that makes any sense.
Justin Alicea Christianity is the bastard child of Judaism and Greek mythology along with some Asian & Indian influences because of trade.
Heck, that probably would annoy Byzantines (medieval Christian Greeks) too.
They knew how to keep Greek mythology and Christian theology separate. And when writing stories about pre-Christian Greek characters they didn't try to insert Christian doctrines into their beliefs.
@@backupaccountforcooldaddyj7895 Please stop trying to perpetuate misconceptions circulated by fundamentalist Christian literature, anti-theists, and neo-pagans.
NC on adhd and dyslexia: I can't focus enough to read that
Me with adhd and dyslexia: you guys can read?
Those two things operate on a spectrum, like many disorders associated with brain functions.
OBVIOUSL YYOU CAN READ SINCE YOU TYPED THIS COMMENT
Guys can someone tell me what this says i cant read
No ADHD is like constantly daydreaming but you can’t turn the off button
@@gracefutrell1912 adhd is my brain has 80 tabs open and i cant read any of them
Honestly, Nostalgia Critic should review the Lightning Thief book. It's clearly a book that a lot of people loved as a child.
Also, the author's son had ADHD and dyslexia and was insecure about it. So that's why he made all demigods have it.
But that line about "your heads programed for ancient Greek" is just insulting
@@nifralo2752 I wouldn't call that insulting, unless you consider Ancient Greek a bad thing. But it feels tacked on as a excuse, and something that if it was really true, someone would have noticed in that stories world eventually.
Well, they do. People with dyslexia and adhd still exist in this world without being demigods. It’s just that all demigods have it. Because of the excuse given in the book. But regular humans still have both afflictions to. And demigods always realize they’re demigods at some point. It could be because they realized the reason behind their adhd/dyslexia, but it’s usually because monsters hunt them down and it gets easier to do that the older they get.
Of course, almost none of that is canon, it’s just a speculation I made based off what I remember from the books, which I haven’t read in a decade. But it seems unlikely literally every person with dyslexia and adhd in this universe is a demogod
Yeah, in this universe, the Demigods are misdiagnosed with dyslexia and adhd. Because normal humans are like “yes this is what that sounds like“ because it’s the only thing they know. But in reality demigods show those symptoms because they are always alert for battle and Greek is their first reading language
@@FastForwardPlans Demigods are typically discovered and herded to CHB around 12 years old. The chances of them encountering Ancient Greek prior to discovering they are demigods and realizing they can understand it much better than they should is low at best. Demigods are literally tied to Ancient Greece because of their blood. Not all dyslexic people in Percy Jackson can read Ancient Greek, only the demigods because the source of their dyslexia is their godly parentage.
Actually Harry's catchphrase is Expelliarmus. He uses the disarming spell so much that the Death Eaters know instantly which Harry is the real one in Book 7 the second he uses it. Professor Lupin even brings this up. He admits the spell is extremely useful but when Harry uses it so much that its pretty much his UK personal ID card its extremely dangerous.
Strange. They say because Percy’s brain is wired to understand Ancient Greek, he thinks he’s dyslexic. I’m Greek, learned Ancient Greek in an early age and English was really easy to pick up as a language because of how many Greek words are in it.
Also, why do they keep making Hades Satan? He was probably one of the quietest and least troublemaking of the gods. Save for an instance or two, he always minded his own business, had a shit job and he did it unconditionally, why do they always make him the Devil?
I know, right? And he's basically the only God with a functional marriage, for the most part
because hades is the god of the underworld and therefore everybody believes he is just like lucifer. it is dumb. i know and i hated too. zeus was far worse than hades. he just takes care of the dead. thats it
@@tanukimika didnt persephone hate hades?
@@Revan-eb1wb eeeeh not really? I mean, yeah, there's the whole kidnapping thing, but there are many versions of them, and I've never heard of Persephone downright hating her husband
@@tanukimika maybe i just mistaken it with god of war. In chains of olympus she hates hades. My bad i guess
They wasted Luke in this, in the books he's a well developed antagonist with an actual character arc with a satisfying conclusion, his betrayal doesn't actually happen until the very end of the first book.
In these two movies he's demoted to whiney brat, and his character arc is non-existent.
Don't worry the books have so much more imagination and passion behind them.
"In these two movies he's demoted to whiney brat, and his character arc is non-existent"
A whiny brat with daddy issues, specifically.
If you didnt read the book. You could have easily predicted his betrayal
His betrayal is better too, because you really don't see it obviously right from the get go. It's also super fast and subtle, not some big show. Had Luke done it anywhere else, he actually might have succeeded, that's how good it was.
I'll admit The Lightning Thief is a guilty pleasure of mine. You should also review The Sea of Monsters that one was absolutely abysmal.
Captain Levi The only ways I can see people liking this movie is because of the good looking actors or they haven’t heard of the books existence.
Mugetsu I actually love the books, yes I watched the movie first because they made me watch it in school, but to this day if I turn my brain off and keep the movie separate from the book I find it slightly entertaining
Abysmal in more senses than one, since it features Charybdis.
I know it's bad but somehow it's very memorable and nastalgic
@@anthonymayvary4840 Makes sense for this show then.