So About The Sonic Origins Controversy...
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- Sonic Origins has been suffering from a multitude of issues due to being rushed out the door. However some new information has come out that explains why the game is in the state that it's in.
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Thoughts On Sonic Origins Controversy: (0:15)
Sonic Origins Developer Speaks Out: (3:23)
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#SonicTheHedgehog #SEGA #sonicorigins - Ігри
"The developers most of the time aren't the villians but the villains are the publisher" so true
The reason why The World Ends With You is niche in a nutshell. Mainly the US side of Square Enix that keeps screwing over the IP
First it was Iizuka, then it was BRB and BSG, then it was Sonic Team, and now it’s SEGA. Who is really to blame.
Crash twinsanity would like to meet you
@@Terminal_Apotos SegaSammy (The people who own Sega and Atlus), I like Sega-Atlus just as much as the next person but They can do better and We really should be blaming the suits over at SegaSammy.
The only time a developer should be hated is if it's Activision-Blizzard and Ubisoft's developers and all the sick, disgusting and vile things they've done
but i don't think the publisher (SEGA) forced them to butcher the prototype music, that IS icompetence
Glad that the developer is speaking out the issues with sonic origins
Thank you for showing the developer side of this issue because god is it telling
i didn't even know the game was out yet, that tells allot about how successful its launch was
everyone who’s a fan knew abt it. it’s a classic game collection so obvi it’s not one of the main games.
I didn't know that it was out untill yesterday when I went into UA-cam and saw thumbnail of sonic and even then I thought it was a trailer or a demo or something that's not the actual game
Your just not apart of the community or just didn’t check the release date
Did none of y'all check the release date? These comments sound very dumb, considering that SEGA told everybody the release date and you guys are acting as if they never did and just released the game out of nowhere.
I do think people are being a bit to much but the fact that the developers are not happy is no good
They are definitely gonna pull the same shit with Frontiers.
Even people who liked the demo, like The Completionist, said it was rough and should be delayed. But they've already said they're not delaying it. Frontiers will release in a less than great technical state, and I would bet money on that. This series continues to be incredibly mismanaged.
Then the only option is to crunch.
@@goni2493 if they can try, we'll see
I'm assuming you didn't watch the Gamespot videos.
I agree and if people believe that this won't be a rushed game then there's no hope for them at this point.
@@MugenLord Sonic Frontiers doesn't look like it's going to be rushed. In fact, the graphics and gameplay in the Gamespot videos actually looks and feels better than the IGN videos.
How has Sega STILL not learned that rushing games is bad? That was basically THE reason why 06 flopped, yet despite them not repeating many things they did back then, they still constantly repeat the biggest mistake they made with that game.
@Mr Big Brother YT Sonic Origins also isn't the only time they've done this though. They also did it with Sonic Boom, Forces, Colors Ultimate, and probably other games as well.
@@DaSheepKiller was sonic force rushed?
Wasn't sonic force extremely polished but just an extremely mediocre game to begin with?
Like I don't think it's a case like boom and 06 who are buggy mess
Sonic force isn't a buggy mess it's just an extremely boring game
@@venor2612 Yes Forces was rushed too. 3 years on development on the game engine and only one year on the actual game itself at least from what I remember. Also Forces was very buggy at launch too, but the difference is that Sega patched most of the bugs.
@@venor2612 the story was definitely rushed, but yeah in terms of polish it's the second most polished Sonic game on Switch behind Mania.
I stopped believing in SEGA years ago. They're all talk. They SAY they want to treat the Sonic IP better but are STILL rushing out games. It's their own fault Sonic's become a laughing stock
@Mr Big Brother YT Scores says otherwise man. It is decreasing as we speak.
@@marcusmayo Scores won't change his opinion, my man.
A bad game is sometimes like a bad exam. You may get a bad grade not because you didn't study or know the answers to the questions, but because you weren't able to finish it within the time given. In the same way, a bad game usually isn't bad simply because the developers are "incompetent", it can turn out bad because they didn't have enough time to finish up the game.
Hell look at Sonic 06 for example, that fits perfectly with what you are trying to say
“A delayed game is eventually good but a rushed game is forever bad”
no? Stealth literally said it was finished and that sega sabotaged it.
@@polocatfan he literally said it wasn't finished because they couldn't get it delayed
@@polocatfan he did not say anything along the lines of that. The game was not finished at all because of the time crunch. And HeadCannon turned in their work so SEGA can put a few extra touches. Which ended up messing up some things
I feel like we will see this again but I also wonder how big an issue it is. Color Ultimate also had a bunch of issues but the fact that it reviewed so well makes me think it wasn't a huge issue for reviewers. Origins seems to be the same way. I've seen some nitpicking of coursed based on what people are used to with other emulators. But as a whole this game collections seems solid. Haven't picked it up myself yet as it's too pricey for me (same with Colors Ultimate), but I do think Frontiers will mimic this. Especially as open world games have the potential for it already. So while I agree this is a publisher issue that needs to be fixed, it's hard to say how big a problem this will be. Cause even when Frontiers releases, plenty of footage will go online. But individual experience will be different. Having said all that, a developer coming out and saying all this out loud does indicate a definite problem(s) to be addressed
sonic colours ultimate's issues were in no way nitpicks
@@Sydney_Angelyt I was referring the origins when I made the nitpicking comment. Although Colors Ultimate was still far from bad imo
@@partyjams did you even SEE the state of release?
@Mr Big Brother YT the game corrupting into a creepypasta is not a nitpick. it was a shitty port
@@Sydney_Angelyt Yes and I do fully admit it shouldn't have been released in that state. But honestly a lot got fixed over time, some of them were pirated copies from what I heard, and again the fact the reviews were good means the review copies were more than playable. Meaning it wasn't that large an issue
I love how this parallels the release of Sonic Color's Ultimate 🤣
*_"Sonic Colors Ultimate is definitely WORTH IT!"_*
_"So.. Sonic Colors Ultimate is a Beutiful Broken Mess.."_
*_"Sonic Origins is 100% WORTH IT!"_*
_"Soooo, about the Sonic Origins contreversy.."_
Sonic Origins is going to age much better than Sonic Colors Ultimate.
@@Matthasnocuts Oh, for sure! Origins isn't anywhere _near_ as buggy as Ultimate (thankfully). It's just that the order of your video titles made me flashback to that whole controversy so damn hard, lol.
@@Matthasnocuts Idk Matt, user scores are looking very bad right about now.
I haven’t experienced the collision detection issues with Sonic 3, but I have seen it with Sonic 1 (specifically, Spring Yard Zone’s rounded corners) and Sonic 2’s Tails. I’m hoping for a lot of the bug fixes that everyone else is too, but in the meantime, I think a workable solution around the Tails thing is to press up and jump for a second or two as if you were trying to get him to fly you. This makes Tails fly offscreen ready to pick you up and, for some reason, I think this causes him to reset. The bugs are unfortunate but haven’t ruined the collection for me. Still worth it, in my opinion
some collision issues can be better with the Smooth Rotation mod (mania rotation)
I'm inclined to look at Sonic Team since this keeps happing when they are running the show with Sega releases. I've only encountered one bug so far. I lost the lighting shield in Sonic 3, but still had rings flying to me. I've heard the PC release is a horror show. The console version I have is mostly fine, at least so far.
I actually have in on PC and I'm almost done with Sonic 1 with no problems so far.
Stealth probably should not have said this now and saved it for later down the line. Now sega might just deny all accountability and not let them patch the game. Hopefully SEGA sees the controversy and feels pressured to call them in to patch the game instead of the former.
What are you talking about? Sega could only do that if stealth had stayed silent, in which they put the initial blame on headcanon and make them defend themselves; now it's reversed. Unless you're saying sega would have ignored complaints, but why would having a developer back the claims about it being a buggy mess be anything less than further pressure to do something? Your comment makes no sense.
Ive had a blast with the collection but im gonna be honest, ive ran into a fair share of problems myself, such as tails disappearing offscreen (only in sonic 2), being crushed randomly although i think the problem lies with the games themselves and its not a problem exclusive to the collection, theres a big bug on the ps4 where the game crashes when you check the leaderboards and sonic 1 and 2 have some wacky physics, but other than those tiny problems the collection is fantastic, I would recommend anyone get it cause its genuinely fun. having way more fun than SCU although i also think that remaster was fairly good, it had its problems but it was enjoyable for the most part.
Actually the tails glitch is basically across all versions of sonic 2 soooooooo
It’s no Colors Ultimate, and I still enjoyed the collection. But man, it needs some polish. This game desperately needs patched to fix the bugs and remove Denuvo, and I’d have no problem recommending it. I’ve had plenty of problems with it; more than you’ve mentioned here. It’s not unplayable, but it’s more of a “death by a thousand cuts” situation, if you will.
It’s still inexcusable how many times SEGA has released an unpolished product to meet an anniversary deadline. How have they not learned this from 06?
I agree. This game needs more Polish. The menu between games has Polish translations, but once you enter a game, all text is in English.
They're like Chris Chan. They never learn their lesson...
@@Gnidel it's too late. nothing we can do about it
@@Gnidel pfffft funny haha
AVGN “They don’t care. By the time you’re having this problem, you already bought it.”
I played through the four games while getting every emerald and I've done half of mission mode and I've only encountered one bug so I'm actually pretty confused on what people are talking about. Not at all denying other people's experiences, especially when one of them is a dev, it just doesn't align with what I've personally experienced and I think that's weird.
Sonic fans when a game has bugs
I haven't bought it. I get the feeling the bugs are a little overblown. Sonic Mania had bugs too. and if you play a game you don't necessarily encounter the bugs. Still I'm waiting for a sale because I have multiple versions of some of these games already.
I've only encountered one bug as well, specifically in Sandopolis Act 2 where the checkpoints were all activated before I even got to them, and so I couldn't use them. It was an easy fix tho, so
@Mr Big Brother YT wrong opinion
@Mr Big Brother YT the last mainline sonic game
This is interesting. For me the menu just has slowdown and the game crashes after loading for some reason. That didn't even happen for me with colors ultimate.
For almost 16 years sega hasn’t learned their lesson to not rush games out 🤦🏼♂️
I’m honestly not surprised Sega didn’t allow the game to be delayed. If they didn’t do with 06 or rise of lyric they will likely never delay any games, and it’s a sad truth.
What makes it even worse is that this kind of behavior has been a thing as far back as Sonic 1, All Sonic games have at least 1 sign of rushed development, even the most polished Sonic games out there.
@@bbumbs747 Sonic 1 wasn't rushed though
Ngl I dont get what your saying as in what context do you mean Sonic wasnt rushed, are you saying that no Sonic game has been rushed or at least some Sonic games werent rushed.
@@bbumbs747 He clarified, check his comment, he edited it.
The only real big problem I had was Tails suddenly disappearing offscreen and you constantly hear him jumping trying to catch up to you but never does.
But in that same breath, I haven’t seen enough people talk about this, Tails’ AI more than made up for it in Sonic 3. Like people aren’t giving credit to that version of Tails in 3 and Knuckles. In S3&K Tails competently keeps up at most points in time whereas if you remember back in the day Tails almost always fell behind. But do yourself a favor the next time you play S3&K on Origins. Tails is damn fine at keeping up when he needs to and I appreciate that aspect.
im playing on pc, and i have had 0 frame drops, 0 glitches and 0 bad times so far.
except for playing sonic 1,
i do not like sonic 1.
it depends on your pc, Im playing on a pc too and while I didnt encounter any glitches, the menu just runs very badly, and it crashes all the time
did u cracked the game or something? cause it has denuvo DRM and that can cause the framedrops and bugs
@@heisenberg3206 I heard the DRM causes this but just the moment I opened the game for the first time it couldn't get to the main menu without crashing and when I finally got to the main menu it barely worked and I had to lower the resoultion to 480p and it still barely works
@@teddyboy5932 friend of mine has the same problem
I agree that what Sega did to Carnival Night, Ice Cap and Launch Base’s songs is just plain stupid. They had no reason to make new compositions of the prototype themes based on the inferior versions from the PC edition when the original Genesis compositions still exist and can be placed into the game by modders. It also doesn’t make sense to be scared of copyright when they sorted out whatever issues they had with Sonic CD’s Japanese opening and closing themes, on top of previous collections always using said Sonic 3 songs. But I don’t think that alone is enough to ruin the game. You can always just mute the music in the options and just play the original songs on your phone or something.
As for glitches, I honestly haven’t encountered anything worth crying about. Ooh, a rhinobot passed through a block and fell out of the level during a mission! Good thing I can just move away and respawn him. Or hold up, Sonic died offscreen after clearing the hard Palmtree Panic boss mission! …except that didn’t count as a fail and I still won.
Now I know that there’s a glitch in Ice Cap Act 2 that can let you skip the boss if you trigger Super Sonic in the right spot, but like, who cares? Just don’t transform there. Or do and just abuse it for a speedrun. This is hardly Sonic Colors Ultimate levels of brokenness, people.
That said, I am definitely sick of Sega insisting on releasing games before they’re fully ready. They’ve been doing this for decades and it backfires EVERY SINGLE TIME. How can they be so stubborn and blind to what this mentality is causing? It seriously has to stop if they’re to improve in any meaningful way.
Thats not the same. The fact MJ has some sort of involvement makes it much harder with copyright
I would say they need to atleast fix the Tails AI in sonic 2. Ruins the charm of the game.
funny how sonic classic collection on ds has the songs while origins are replaced
When you've been playing the game for decades and come across countless moments where the game does not function as it should, especially to the point of making certain pathways inaccessible, it is a major problem. Just because you haven't personally encountered said issues doesn't mean that they don't exist or aren't worth mentioning.
@@agreedboarart3188 Well I’m playing Sonic 2 now and I’ve seen a few problems. The Tails A.I. bug and a screen lock problem at the end of Aquatic Ruin Act 2 after the boss. Those are definitely problems. All I’m saying is that this pales in comparison to what happened in previous games.
0:42 Not for Sonic 3&K as long as Sonic 3 AIR exists
Remember when Sega promised they weren't going to rush games anymore and that quality was a priority? LOL!
seriously i would like see shigeru miyamoto work on a sonic game
ngl the Quartz Quadrant gameplay is giving me anxiety. I feel like "Sonic CD has awkward level design" is a self fulfilling prophecy
I dig the collection. The Story mode/No life system is enough to make me happy. They could have gone further with it like adding more games but overall it’s good
This is the challenge with Sonic having a birthday. We as a collective will always expect something to celebrate come June 23
Let’s hope that we Origins can get improvements
•Fixed speed and momentum in Sonic 3
•Knuckles being playable in Sonic CD
Extra Things that can be in the Collection
•Playable Amy with Hammer and Double Jump
•Mighty and Ray?
•Knuckles Chaotix?
Eh I don’t think they should add Amy. Sega already deconfirmed Amy and it doesn’t make sense.
Also mighty and ray? They should be mania exclusive idk why they would add might and ray.
Knuckles chaotic I agree the game is 40$ and only 4 games which have been rereleased 100 times?
Maybe even add sonic spinball
When I saw all the outrage online I was caught very off guard and confused, I played it and had zero issues with it and loved it
The most unnerving aspect about this whole stink is that 1. What hope does Frontiers have if they can't even get their beloved classics they always bank on right? And 2. If there is enough outrage, they might just do their thing and face out classic material entirely.
Happy year of Sonic I guess?
Glad I have Sonic Mega Collection Plus on the PS2.
Yoooo new subscriber here! Its Bluestreak! I agree to everything that is said in detail in this video and yes while Sonic Origins is indeed a good game I'm not gonna deny some minor issues I've had at least in Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 where I would randomly get crushed out of nowhere and in Sonic 2, Tails just disappears randomly or he just keeps jumping! That's basically all I've encountered but other than just those minor bugs the game is still a great time and I'm almost finished with the story mode of the game 😊 I've completed Sonic 1 with all 6 Chaos Emeralds with the good ending, completed Sonic CD with all 7 Time stones and the good ending and I have all 7 Chaos Emeralds in Sonic The Hedgehog 3 and Knuckles! I'm currently at 3 Super Emeralds and just need 4 more! ✊
I don’t know, I saw no problem with glitches and bugs on playstation.
Question for evyone I have a switch and a X box one , what's the better option to play sonic Origins?
If you still think that Sega loves Sonic, then look at the rest of their franchises and compare them to the most profitable one.
Preach man. Preach.
Mephiles said this perfectly
“Oh how ironic fate can be”
Sonic fans complain that the modern games are bad, unfinished, or buggy and the old ones are better, then tell me. What is this?
I can't relate with anyone's problems because I enjoy the game so much. I have ran into a few bugs, but nothing has ruined my experience. I'm glad is taking notice that the game isn't what they wanted to be. Good video, Matt! :)
@Cloudy The music was changed. The level design itself is alike with the original.
@Cloudy Yes, however the tracks were unfinished, so they finished them. Whether you like them or not is up to you, but they worked on all of the unfinished parts of the tracks, and finished them, so they could be used for their respective zone.
Yeah, so right after I beat sonic 1 on origins, the game crashed and now every time I try to start the game it just crashes before even loading the title screen. I even tried deleting it and reinstalling it. Anybody have a solution?
I just hope they try finishing and updating the game to make it more polished
It really hurts but we need to realise that Sonic for SEGA is never the big name that need all the care it deserves
It will never be in the same state is Phantasy Star or Yakuza in SEGA eyes
As long as y'all keep buying, SEGA couldn't care less. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
what's the background music?
Tails AI bug in Sonic 2 is happening for me on every level. It’s super annoying
Where do u think u would rank sonic origins compared to the other sonic games?
This might sound crazy but I would consider Sonic Origins an S tier game. Mostly because it's a collection of four amazing games that are brought to widescreen with new additions and features. I've also not had too many issues with the collection so that might also influence my opinion.
@@Matthasnocuts great to hear! Thinking of buying it!
the biggest issue I found was the music from chaotix not lining up with the titles
The sonic 3 death in the carnival stage after the first boss has always been like that since genesis that's why I never sit in a pocket like that when blocks are falling
I haven't had any problems with 3&K so far on my switch I guess I'm just lucky lol I only ran into the Sonic 2 glitch with Tails hopping off the screen the sound keeps repeating itself
You always keep it real I like that
I found a bug in Carnival Night 2 where you can use Tails to open the animal capsule before actually beating the boss. You can see the boss briefly whilst the score is counting and it's kinda funny
I really wished that Sonic Origins would be the best way to play the past Sonic games if only Sega should've never EVER rushed it way too soon. If Sega should've understand Simon Thomley & Headcannon about making delays to patch up those glitches to make it more accessible to any people, then I am sure that nobody like me should be enraged at Sega. But alas, it was not meant to be. Sega seriously needs to make amends to the Sonic fan community & make a patch update to make the compilation much more stable. PLEASE, SEGA! FIX ALL THOSE BUGS & GLITCHES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!
finally someone adressing this good game with a terrible launch
oooooooof never expected my comment to be hearted
@@t1dotztrappy313 bruh
This game doesn’t look good with all those bugs man. This launch is kinda rough.
Huh.I haven't heard anything about bugs. Just Denuvo. Now I'm extra glad I decided to wait til later to get Origins.
I wouldn't even care if it had glitches if Sega just made a physical version that's the only reason why I'm not buying it.
Yeah I would be waiting for the physical release but they have no plan of making it so it’s kind of annoying and I don’t wanna wait like two years just for a physical release
I found a glitch in sonic 3 where in hidden palace (entering from a big ring) if you drop dash on one of the unactivated super emeralds you will get stuck. This is because when landed on an emerald the game freezes your controls. But when drop dashing it forces you off the emerald, preventing it from moving into the blue sphere stage, but also getting you stuck. The only way out is to restart, although restarting fortunately brings you back to hidden palace so you dont actually lose any progress. This is the only gameplay affecting bug I've found so I dont know what the problem is with people saying it is a complete buggy mess. Maybe it's platform differences.
I have this on ps5 and I haven’t noticed many issues. Sonic 3 and knuckles has weird hit detection sometimes, like I’ll get crushed when I shouldn’t have, but that’s the only problem.
The fact that they’ll still making the same mistakes since sonic 06 is straight up scary
Why does he say the channel member names so fast. That’s a slap in the face to anyone that actually payed. I like this guy but would it kill him to take a minute to properly read out the names and thank them instead of blitzing through the names as if he don’t actually care. As far as im concerned the people that actually pay to watch your free content are your biggest fans.
The Tails and Collision issues in Carnival night were the only real glitches I encountered. Otherwise the games played more or less flawlessly.
I got a bug where i couldnt turn super until i did i hard reset
I'm enjoying Sonic Origins and haven't really encountered any bugs. (Dunno if playing on Series X has any effect)
I've seen articles about how headcannon and co are mad at SEGA interfering with development, and I've been having Rise of Lyric flashbacks every time I see one.
They aren't learning.
They at least should've "mania'd" the graphics, remixed the soundtracks and kept the originals for a classic mode instead of the "right-click, copy and paste, but all in the same folder" they gave us.
I have the android versions, the Xbox live versions and roms with a widescreen + high res hack, so really, I won't be buying this.
Most likely I'll mod Mania for the classic stages and I'll be golden.
I found like atleast 20 glitches in sonic origins by accident without trying to, like freezing the game, dying randomly, clipping into areas im not meant to be in, and a save data swap (basically when I was playing sonic 3&K in story mode, I had a Mirror mode save data of the same game and I think it mixed up my Chaos and Super emerald data of the 2 save datas)
I've been playing the crap out of this since release day and i only encountered one bug so far, it was in mushroom hill zone 2 and it was a softlock, but its the only glitch i encountered. Maybe the switch version has more idk but in the PS5 version i've only seen that one, i wanna know what glitches have been happening
For me I can’t even play it. It crashes on startup just cause I have an intel graphics card. It’s kinda sucks to pay 40 bucks for a game I can’t even play
PC moment.
One time I couldn’t go up the thing at the beginning of sandopolis zone, AND I WAS PLAYING AS SONIC ALONE SO I HAD TO GO TO ANOTHER SANDOPOLIS FILE THEN GO BACK TO SONIC ALONE, but it wasn’t that big of a deal.
I got kicked from the hidden palace (where you turn chaos emeralds to super emeralds). I hadn't even gone in an actual special stage and the teleporter you arrive on just teleported me back out to the stage and the ring was gone. It wasn't like that in the original game and seriously needs to be fixed. Hopefully restarting the level will bring the ring back. If not that's a really cheap way to fail getting an emerald.
I had a good time with Origins. The only bugs that I encountered was the Act Clear music not playing in Sonic 1,(It happened once tho) Tails not respawning, Tails’s flying sound effect constantly playing even though he’s not flying, and the museum playing other tracks instead of the one I chose. (For example I’ll play Sonic 3D Blast Credits but it’ll play the menu music instead)
So because I played Sonic 3 & Knuckles the most out of the collection so far I've run into some glitches that occur in launch base zone, mushroom Hill zone, and flying battery zone that involve the physics where you get launched in directions that you should not be going based on your trajectory.
There's also a glitch that happens in lava reef zone where the super emerald rings even after collecting all of the chaos and super emeralds go back to being standard rings and then you start at special stage number one from Sonic 3 it's only happened once and I turned the game off immediately because I didn't know if it would save over my emeralds.
Other than that I just kind of wish that they would have left the original prototype music in as an option in game because it's a bit more complex, and I wish Knuckles would be playable in Sonic CD.
I also think including Metal Sonic and Amy is playable characters and all the games would have been a nice touch seeing as how the artwork is everywhere.
I just think that they should just let them take there time. But they need money apparently
Bugs and glitches really again I feel bad for the people that had troubles.
How can you describe these as the definitive versions of the games when fanmade enhancements exist? What feature does this game's version of S3&K have over Angel Island Revisited? Only Mirror Mode, the Story Mode longplay feature, and a few extra sprites of animation for the characters when using things like the CNZ barrels and LBZ teacups.
Because Christian Whitehead and Stealth made the ports, and their work is never less than stellar. SEGA put them together in a package with the unreleased S3&K port that people have been DYING to see from Whitehead. The only reason this isn’t perfect is because SEGA rushed things. Sure, fan mods can be better. That’s ALWAYS the case. We want to support Headcannon. This is also S3&K in the retro engine, not just the original game. That engine is just built for PERFECT accuracy.
The original games aren't in perfect 60 fps or widescreen
I quite literally haven't run into any problems with Origins
This entire collection has reinvigorated my love for CD which is worth the full price tag in itself so
Yea I'm aight
7:10 at this point I actually think it’s a choice rather than a mistake and while I don’t think sega is a bad company
I still think these “choices” affect how I see them
Sonic mania released in good condition and received a lot of affection due to that choice
I want the same for sonic Origins because sonic to me is all about that charisma and charm so many video games aspire to be!
I'll just wait for the patch
let the Sonic3&K A.I.R team patch up sonic3
I’ve had a great expirance! No major bugs at all really
Me personally, i love this collection, The music change dose bother me but besides that, (In my personal opinion) it’s a good collection
It would be cool if you could actually play with the "alternate music" that you pay for in the DLC.
Yeah they have better carnival night zone music in there
Tbh yeah the collection has some problems here and there but I think people are exaggerating a bit don't get me wrong this shouldn't have happen in there first place but it's not like it's awful or anything and I still belive it's a pretty neat way of playing the classic sonic games
I’m playing the switch version and haven’t encountered any problems
I had hope in sega yet here we are.
What about the questionable sound quality?
I don't have any bugs in Sonic Origins on PC
I haven't ran into any problems yet but my only complaint is the controls for 1 & 2 aren't as smooth as CD and S3&K.
I have no insider information to back this up or anything, it's all hypothetical, but I really get the feeling that Sega's corporates don't care about Sonic. Other games in the publisher's catalogue, like Yakuza, Valkyria Chronicles or Shining Resonance don't launch with these kinds of issues or problems.
I honestly feel like, since Sonic isn't all that popular in Japan, the big wigs don't see it as being that valuable to the company as a whole, and don't give it the care and attention other properties receive
I’ve encountered glitches on the Origins version of CD that I remember encountering on the Xbox 360 port. Normally I’d forgive something like this but the remastered version of Sonic CD has been rereleased at least five times not counting Origins and I’m willing to bet there are more glitches that haven’t been fixed since 2011.
Ah Yes GLITCH + BUG = whoopsie daisy more glitches and bugs!
*coughSonicColors:Ultimatecough*
I beat sonic 1 last night and I haven't experienced any glitches or bugs.
Look, my perspective is that i’m among the people who have been BEGGING to get those fantastic Headcannon/Whitehead ports of Sonic 1 and 2 onto consoles and PC, as well as let them do the same with Sonic 3&K. In essence, that’s what we have here, albeit with Sega rushing things a bit. Still, the ports themselves are rock solid. I’ve played every single game in the collection on Switch and the only glitch i’ve encountered is the infinite Tails jumping bug that happens in every version of Sonic 2
please include “worth it” in the title for your review for sonic frontiers
Even if sonic origins is a little messy with it's post launch issues, atleast it's a good collection
It’s fine the bugs in this game are so minor if they don’t get fixed it’s not an issue but obviously they will be fixed but I think the thing people need to realize is old games have a ton of bugs even remasters
I haven't encountered any major issues here, but what rubbed me the wrong way was the lack of in-game features missing from Sonic 1, CD, and 2. The mobile version's level select/save files were axed for no reason.
Level select is present in the games lol
No it's not. Sonic 3&K has it. CD's is flawed. For Sonic 1 and 2, all you get is a character select to resume progress. Cheat codes don't count.
@@josephhinojosa4715 why do the cheat codes for level select and debug not count?
@@Supersonicspyro because it removes accessibility. Nothing in the game will inform players about those codes. In the mobile version for Sonic 1 & 2, you can choose a save slot and select a level on a fully completed file. Origins' removed it for no reason
My game crashed on the Switch after beating Lava Reef Act 1 in story mode -_-
It’s the publishers fault.
Always.
Why is origins bad on pc?I've bought it on switch so idk
Im prepare for Sonic Frontier to be the same, having bugs and being rush out the gate