Malaysia just resumed its movement-control-order (we have to stay hope) due to an uptick of covid-19 cases. I am here for you as you are here for me. You have improved over the years, keep it up!
Your casts are so amazing, I start thinking you were actually BORN FOR THIS :) Absolutely can't and don't even try to watch casts done by someone else :)
Battlecruisers vs T: Great Vs P: Very Bad Vs Z: Actually good as support units mixed in with your army especially with Yamato cannon. It takes 5 scourge to kill it which is more gas than a BC and BC’s one shot them, they’re good for harassing Ultras, Yamato cannon can cripple sunkens and Ultras and one shot greater spire units. Plague does 60% damage but you can repair them unlike how it permanently deals 66% damage to Carriers. I like them for this match up but generally in small numbers. Not to mention you can D-Matrix them when shit starts popping off Just look out for ensnare and Devourers acid spore, and plague for that matter. You should keep them spread to avoid these effects from splashing on all of them. The three Goo spells are its worst enemy
Very interesting match. With Ret losing so many ultras and drones it felt like NaDa was winning for most of that game, yet in the end the Terran just ran out of money and had zero troops left. Seemed like he would have been fine if he'd taken another expansion sooner, but maybe he wouldn't have been able to defend it.
Uranium-238 is an isotope of Uranium which undergoes fission through absorption of "fast" neutrons. This, in contrast with Uranium-235, which undergoes fission through absorption of "thermal" (or slow) neutrons. This makes 235 more effective as a fission fuel in a typical pressurized water reactor, where the coolant (water) slows the neutrons down to 'thermal' or 'average' temperature (so to speak, they have similar average random energy as the rest of the water), and makes the neutrons available for absorption by the rest of the fuel. 238, on the other hand, is for nukes, as there'll only be fast neutrons in a nuclear explosion. "Fast" in this context roughly means the neutrons are at a higher energy than the surrounding medium by a certain amount. "Thermal" means the neutrons are at a similar energy to the surrounding medium. "Thermal" in your apartment or house would be "room temperature". Hi! I worked in nuclear energy awhile. I know there are some big brains out there who'll have some nitpicks, but this is the......high school grad layman's version. Y'all can miss me with talk of MeVs and such. :P For this game? They basically are talking about "spent uranium" for the marines' bullets.
This style of Terran play is called SK Terran and NaDa was notorious for it. The terran skips factory units completely and gets M&M + 2-3 Starport Vessels, using Irradiate to pick off zerg tech units before overwhelming his bases with an M&M death ball. In the late game he adds BCs because he already has the starports and extra gas, and you can't really control more than 100 food of M&M + Vessels. Besides, Yamato works under swarm and BCs force zerg to make Hydra instead of just having 200 food of UltraLing. BCs were never considered universally bad, it's just that in a modern TvZ, which is factory heavy, you don't have the gas, time or infrastructure to get them. Anyway, SK Terran has fallen out of favor because of how difficult it is to control, now it's more of a show-off style people use in casual games vs much weaker opponents, kinda like Corsair+Reaver in PvZ (btw, you should dig up some of Stork's or Anytime's old Corsair+Reaver games from this period, it tends to look amazing when it works). As for Gaurdians, you can see from this game why they are not often used, they are useless in the front lines and die to 1 Irradiate. They are even worse in modern ZvT, since Terrans either go 1-1-1 and have wraiths flying around, or they make a mech switch and have tons of Golliaths by the time the Zerg has Guardians. If the Terran is sticking with bio + tanks, you can morph leftover mutas over his natural or 3rd cliff and shut down his base, stopping mining and wasting his Irradiates. They don't work if he has 12 vessels and you morph in your own base, no idea what Ret was thinking...
I think that's Terran micro curse vs Zerg overwhelm and attack move. Also the lack of tanks... idk if that was a great decision. That being said... I'm still an amateur.
@Darkzz Lord Yea, I wasn't completely precise. Some ideas used in this style still persist, 6 rax + 2 port vessel before siege is still a mainsteram opening on maps with 3 bases behind the same wall or maps with an island expo, but even then it transitions into a standard TvZ after 130-ish food. It's not really the "dedicated" SK Terran style that ends up going into heavy air. The thing is, Flash is not mechanically superior compared to the best Zerg pros as much as NaDa was in his prime. It's completely analogous to a Sair/Reaver PvZ, a 2 port Sair into fast Reaver openings are still a thing (on the same types of maps), but a dedicated Sair/Reaver with D. Web going into Carriers in the late game is a thing of the past. A shame, it looks so amazing when it works.
@@Tol1as The most insane examples are Stork games vs GoRush on Neo Requiem and GGPlay on Andromeda. Both end up in a mass air PvZ slugfest, which is extremely entertaining. However, the games are ancient and the only vods I can find are 360p. If you don't mind the low visual quality, take 3 hours out of your day, make some popcorn and enjoy: ua-cam.com/video/womcxJXM22Y/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/vLew1ggDfQQ/v-deo.html If you want a game you can actually learn from, Reach vs Yellow on Outsider is a great example, with a more sane switch into mass Dragoon with Storm/DWeb/Scarab support. This game makes it look like a straight forward, viable strategy, but remember that Outsider is a very non-othodox map and Zerg early game meta has evolved a lot since the days of Reach, so be careful if trying it on Ladder. Check it out anyway: ua-cam.com/video/PWwHAe4QYQE/v-deo.html
Great videos! Really enjoy them... I remember the days when my buddy and I would make a 7v1 comp stomp and after disposing of the computer....the suspicion of who doesn't have allied victory and subsequent backstabbing would begin!
Falcon Paladin for sure... I remember a game when I took out one of my allies early and one opponent came to attack that base and said "what happened here" 😂
Really fun cast, loved the wall off :) usually you do the much longer, macro type games, which are definitely the better ones but was curious if you might do a compilation of short pro level games? Those can be a lot of fun too :) also, Merry Christmas! Hope you and your family are enjoying the holidays
My bad, no wall off happened in this game, been binge watching your bw casts lol still, great cast, your enthusiasm really draws a person into the game
it's actually the casters hat make BCs pretty much pointless: they can take just about any combat unit based fight in the game, (literally any when properly supported if I'm remembering right...can't remember how devourers play out with hydra/muta/etc) and take very little apm to function (the main reason they get used in M&Ms, there are only so many marines that you can effectively control in sc1) but they can't dodge storms, 1 plague hits 1 BC for more than the cost of the defiler (even the repair costs are higher if it lives) and even poor terran can lockdown for a gg. ironically enough the battlecruiser itself seems to be meant to function as a support unit more than anything, they react and hit instantly and deal damage efficiently both alone and in combination with other units, it just sorta makes everything run better and lessens the impact of the opponent opening an engagement. not the most efficient damage dealers in terms of supply and resources though, they only hit about as hard as a siege tank in D/T they just do it in a much more viable manner.
really wish theyd do an update just to remove boxer maneuver, it just reaks of an unintended effect that boosts science vessels which already have multiple great abilities.
Falcon, I'm no pro, but it looked like the battlecruisers (and I think it was only worth doing with plural) more than made up for 800m/600g, and beyond that efficacy, they really did damage to and more importantly distracted, that big ol' Scourge count, giving the science vessels much-greater-than-otherwise counts and longer & more productive lives. Plus, beyond those, zet had very little to oppose a large air unit intruding on his less guarded bases...so maybe Nada looked at the two BC as guaranteed damage either to the Scourge (equating to an upper hand for his main force) or to some of zet's bases, given his rather telegraphed unit composition strategy.
ret plays like serral. Out macros and outlasts his opponent with the precise amount of defensive actions and units built. Eventually economics will play a factor and his multiple bases and expansions will begin to give him an advantage
Finally! A comment I agree with lol. Who uses BCs in a pro game and who rushes ultras to 1 million marines without dark swarm? Felt like a training match or just a friendly one for fun
I really thought zerg was gonna lose this. He wasted so so so many units. Doesnt matter i guess. For the swarm. Edit: im a sc2 player who watches bw matches. Little crossover for ya.
Is this really [red]NaDa? Because I'd imagine him beating up this Zerg who A-moved most of the game. The BCs were genius - if only ret had 1 air carapace upgr, his scourges would have obliterated the BCs. The Science Vessels' irradiation move over the drones was annihilating, though. Sooo many hordes of drones died.
Honestly seems like mixing in a few battlecruisers could've been great against red's composition. Just park them over the marine ball and scourges have no hope of defeating the BCs. Heavy fire support.
ret only has 2 hatch so theres no need to go up to 900 gas immediately. he'll have 6 larvae when spire finishes, and 700 gas - so, 6 muta and +1 upgrade or 7 muta. not like SC2 where you can have many larvae :)
I feel ret could have won on the first ultra attack if he had cut back about 2-3 ultras and added more lings instead, its even kind of funny how some of his best trades were just small groups of lings with no support rushing through while his huge ultra groups died fighting M&M's untill he got defilers
soooo, if he hadn't gotten resource starved we'd have seen a Battlecruiser game? they are a natural addition to candy terran both in unit synergy and in simply not needing remotely near as much attention as other units.
What is this meta? Zero lurkers vs mass marine+medic. Battlecruisers? Very late Defilers? Guardians? Refreshing :3 Thanks again for the great cast! Keep 'em coming xP And I guess I'll try to take a look at Sc2 again at some point. Lost interest around Heart of the Swarm :/ Just seemed so attackmoveish with spell spam (forcefield, storm etc.) with lots of aoe damage (damn you mass banelings and colossi! :D). Dunno if the meta had changed tho'. Last time I recalled Reapers were made useless after WoL (only 1-2 for scout and then they're forgotten).
You should. I can safely say it is much improved. Colossi were nerfed, they are only good against massed light and typically only used against Terran Bio now. Storms are just as good tbh, but feedback is nerfed and Disrupters provide an alternative source of AOE. Zerg is interesting. Banelings are strong but very niche, hydralingbane is still meta but not the only opener anymore. Mutas are really meta, seeing them floating around in a death ball reminds me of brood war lol. Reapers are still only made for scouting, but they are EXTREMELY important. Losing your reaper without any drone kills can feel like a GG in some games. Getting 6+ kills with reapers happens. Late game zerg is almost always viper+flyers with ultra support, occasionally infesters too. Carriers got nerfed and require a lot of Micro, BCs got buffed and require less Micro. Tempests are the most common late game protoss stargate unit. It's a very healthy game right now. Every unit has uses and Nydus is great again.
Nada doesn't take him serious at all. Marine micro? Nah Battlecruiser are bad? so what Throwing units into the grinder for no reason? sure btw: i own you anyway. right after my cheese sandwich... nom
Вчера закончил проходить StarCraft: Remastered и ненавижу эту игру за её управление, из-за него очень сложно было играть. Пойду обратно в Starcraft 2, наслаждаться современностью
What? GTFO, he's a strong foreign player. Everyone loses. Pro SC is mostly fixed to South Korea, likely they are not BORN the best players ever as all the other countries can't keep up with the huge SC pro culture. If other countries did then you'd probably be seeing guys like Ret go toe-to-toe with whoever was the best SC BW at the time in South Korea. I follow Street Fighter religiously and being a Japanese game, those players dominated every other country, fast forward 12yrs and it's slipping, because lack of arcades, interest etc and now foreign players are showing they are more or less as good. From what ive seen this is what appears to happened with SC2 since BW.
This is game 2 of a bo3 game at one of the Blizzcon events i think. Nada went easy on Ret in this match but game 1 and game 3 he showed Ret who is boss lol
i'm no pro and my apm certainly drops as the game goes on but at the beginning i can hit 600 apm just hitting 1 and 4 going between scv and cc. consistent practice will help your hands get faster, myelin sheaths ftw!
what is he getting at there at the end..."I understand it was the 90's"...... So the medic death is too gory for you? I thought they were part of SC's charm.
The medic animation is real gory for a Terran death, most of them just blow up. For me, it made me feel real bad to lose a medic lmao. What a shitty way to die.
@@Illumirage In brood war? Well! It's not as bloody as the Ultralisk or the Hydralisk deaths... That's for sure... Hmm the firebat death is my favorite though. "OOOOAAAGGGGGHHHH" *BLOWS THE FUCK UP* lmao
Why do Terran players so often neglect to use the air power edge? Expensive, yes, but build a massive fleet and watch your opponents get CRUSHED. Attacks from the sky are my personal preference.
But Paladin, you are correct, Guardians are super vulnerable. Wraiths and cruisers, too. Still, a fleet of any of these can reek total chaos and massive destruction on an enemy.
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a CHRISTMAS SPECIAL!?!?
i watch both sc1 an sc2, but like sc1 the most.
BW is better than LOTV in every possible way, even graphically, no doubt about it
Dash the graphics in sc2 look weird right? Misses out on the galactic apocalyptic nightmare vibe
This Nada vs ret is the funniest SK Terran fueled back and forth I've seen. Thanks YT algorithm for tracking it down.
The algorithm came through!
This game should be called "The Great Ultralisk Massacre of 2011"
Malaysia just resumed its movement-control-order (we have to stay hope) due to an uptick of covid-19 cases. I am here for you as you are here for me. You have improved over the years, keep it up!
Thanks, Faiz. :) Best of luck to you!
This era-jumping order of casting is actually cool, you get to see the evolution of the meta by vintage.
could you provide us with a link. i couldn't find anything
Your casts are so amazing, I start thinking you were actually BORN FOR THIS :) Absolutely can't and don't even try to watch casts done by someone else :)
Battlecruisers vs T: Great
Vs P: Very Bad
Vs Z: Actually good as support units mixed in with your army especially with Yamato cannon. It takes 5 scourge to kill it which is more gas than a BC and BC’s one shot them, they’re good for harassing Ultras, Yamato cannon can cripple sunkens and Ultras and one shot greater spire units. Plague does 60% damage but you can repair them unlike how it permanently deals 66% damage to Carriers. I like them for this match up but generally in small numbers.
Not to mention you can D-Matrix them when shit starts popping off
Just look out for ensnare and Devourers acid spore, and plague for that matter. You should keep them spread to avoid these effects from splashing on all of them.
The three Goo spells are its worst enemy
"Irradiated science vessel trick" = eraser
Will I ever watch a single cast without a close-up obsession over the missile turret guy.
irradiating your own science vessels to kill drones is acctually a SlayerS'BoxeR manouver :P
Very interesting match. With Ret losing so many ultras and drones it felt like NaDa was winning for most of that game, yet in the end the Terran just ran out of money and had zero troops left. Seemed like he would have been fine if he'd taken another expansion sooner, but maybe he wouldn't have been able to defend it.
Uranium-238 is an isotope of Uranium which undergoes fission through absorption of "fast" neutrons. This, in contrast with Uranium-235, which undergoes fission through absorption of "thermal" (or slow) neutrons. This makes 235 more effective as a fission fuel in a typical pressurized water reactor, where the coolant (water) slows the neutrons down to 'thermal' or 'average' temperature (so to speak, they have similar average random energy as the rest of the water), and makes the neutrons available for absorption by the rest of the fuel. 238, on the other hand, is for nukes, as there'll only be fast neutrons in a nuclear explosion.
"Fast" in this context roughly means the neutrons are at a higher energy than the surrounding medium by a certain amount. "Thermal" means the neutrons are at a similar energy to the surrounding medium. "Thermal" in your apartment or house would be "room temperature". Hi! I worked in nuclear energy awhile. I know there are some big brains out there who'll have some nitpicks, but this is the......high school grad layman's version. Y'all can miss me with talk of MeVs and such. :P
For this game? They basically are talking about "spent uranium" for the marines' bullets.
A brood war match for Christmas? Thank you, lysm! Merry Christmas!!
This style of Terran play is called SK Terran and NaDa was notorious for it. The terran skips factory units completely and gets M&M + 2-3 Starport Vessels, using Irradiate to pick off zerg tech units before overwhelming his bases with an M&M death ball. In the late game he adds BCs because he already has the starports and extra gas, and you can't really control more than 100 food of M&M + Vessels. Besides, Yamato works under swarm and BCs force zerg to make Hydra instead of just having 200 food of UltraLing. BCs were never considered universally bad, it's just that in a modern TvZ, which is factory heavy, you don't have the gas, time or infrastructure to get them.
Anyway, SK Terran has fallen out of favor because of how difficult it is to control, now it's more of a show-off style people use in casual games vs much weaker opponents, kinda like Corsair+Reaver in PvZ (btw, you should dig up some of Stork's or Anytime's old Corsair+Reaver games from this period, it tends to look amazing when it works).
As for Gaurdians, you can see from this game why they are not often used, they are useless in the front lines and die to 1 Irradiate. They are even worse in modern ZvT, since Terrans either go 1-1-1 and have wraiths flying around, or they make a mech switch and have tons of Golliaths by the time the Zerg has Guardians. If the Terran is sticking with bio + tanks, you can morph leftover mutas over his natural or 3rd cliff and shut down his base, stopping mining and wasting his Irradiates. They don't work if he has 12 vessels and you morph in your own base, no idea what Ret was thinking...
This is a very thorough analysis! Thanks for this.
I think that's Terran micro curse vs Zerg overwhelm and attack move. Also the lack of tanks... idk if that was a great decision. That being said... I'm still an amateur.
@Darkzz Lord Yea, I wasn't completely precise. Some ideas used in this style still persist, 6 rax + 2 port vessel before siege is still a mainsteram opening on maps with 3 bases behind the same wall or maps with an island expo, but even then it transitions into a standard TvZ after 130-ish food. It's not really the "dedicated" SK Terran style that ends up going into heavy air. The thing is, Flash is not mechanically superior compared to the best Zerg pros as much as NaDa was in his prime.
It's completely analogous to a Sair/Reaver PvZ, a 2 port Sair into fast Reaver openings are still a thing (on the same types of maps), but a dedicated Sair/Reaver with D. Web going into Carriers in the late game is a thing of the past. A shame, it looks so amazing when it works.
@omgopet Can you link any games on youtube with that sair/raver into carriers build, it sounds very entertaining.
@@Tol1as The most insane examples are Stork games vs GoRush on Neo Requiem and GGPlay on Andromeda. Both end up in a mass air PvZ slugfest, which is extremely entertaining. However, the games are ancient and the only vods I can find are 360p. If you don't mind the low visual quality, take 3 hours out of your day, make some popcorn and enjoy:
ua-cam.com/video/womcxJXM22Y/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/vLew1ggDfQQ/v-deo.html
If you want a game you can actually learn from, Reach vs Yellow on Outsider is a great example, with a more sane switch into mass Dragoon with Storm/DWeb/Scarab support. This game makes it look like a straight forward, viable strategy, but remember that Outsider is a very non-othodox map and Zerg early game meta has evolved a lot since the days of Reach, so be careful if trying it on Ladder. Check it out anyway:
ua-cam.com/video/PWwHAe4QYQE/v-deo.html
This game is StarCraft v AI in a nutshell, you fight long bloody battles but in the end someone is bled dry
Big game hunters
I love both StarCraft games , you're not alone bro
U238 probably stands for Uranium 238 isotope. Most common type for Uranium. Anyway back to the video
Great videos! Really enjoy them... I remember the days when my buddy and I would make a 7v1 comp stomp and after disposing of the computer....the suspicion of who doesn't have allied victory and subsequent backstabbing would begin!
Thanks, Charles! No kidding, gotta watch out for those human players. :D
Falcon Paladin for sure... I remember a game when I took out one of my allies early and one opponent came to attack that base and said "what happened here" 😂
When you are wondering if the missle turrets are spinning at different rates, you know you are a hardcore Starcraft fan, lol
In the 9:00 minute
It sorta was mentioned. If he cuts defensive corners, that requires good micro.
Merry Christmas, Falcon! All the best to you and your family.
Merry Christmas!
First blood never dies.
Merry Christmas, love to see the introductions for the players.
Merry Christmas!
Really fun cast, loved the wall off
:) usually you do the much longer, macro type games, which are definitely the better ones but was curious if you might do a compilation of short pro level games? Those can be a lot of fun too :) also, Merry Christmas! Hope you and your family are enjoying the holidays
My bad, no wall off happened in this game, been binge watching your bw casts lol still, great cast, your enthusiasm really draws a person into the game
Merry Christmas to you and yours, too! And I did post a short games compilation fairly recently. Did you catch that?
@@FalconPaladin for bw? I did not, I will look for it.
I love both OG starcraft and Starcraft 2 personally, strangely enough I'm usually zerg on SC1 and Terran on SC2
14:31 brilliant square formation
it's actually the casters hat make BCs pretty much pointless: they can take just about any combat unit based fight in the game, (literally any when properly supported if I'm remembering right...can't remember how devourers play out with hydra/muta/etc) and take very little apm to function (the main reason they get used in M&Ms, there are only so many marines that you can effectively control in sc1) but they can't dodge storms, 1 plague hits 1 BC for more than the cost of the defiler (even the repair costs are higher if it lives) and even poor terran can lockdown for a gg.
ironically enough the battlecruiser itself seems to be meant to function as a support unit more than anything, they react and hit instantly and deal damage efficiently both alone and in combination with other units, it just sorta makes everything run better and lessens the impact of the opponent opening an engagement.
not the most efficient damage dealers in terms of supply and resources though, they only hit about as hard as a siege tank in D/T they just do it in a much more viable manner.
This looked like tier 2 league game when you compare it to modern Soulkey vs. Last or Larva vs. Light games.
I'm watching your BW casts 1 per day, and when I watch them all, I'll begin watching your SC2 and all new BW:R casts) here's a little crossover)
Thank for the Christmas present. Great game, happy holidays.
You're welcome, August. :)
Irriadiating own Science Vessels is not Flash manouver. First to come with this idea was Boxer
Hi Falcon, can u make a squared hp bar, like in original SC. And fix/change upgrade icons in unit info bar.
What?
@@FalconPaladin god damn it :D ua-cam.com/video/ilNIM6bnesg/v-deo.html look his icons and hp bars
Hope you are having a nice day/night falcon! Merry christmas!
Merry Christmas!
Battlecruiser fleet is NOT bad if you are a professional in using them!
Wow pensé que el zerg iba a perder pero aún así sí pudo al final. Esos battle cruisers sí que dañaron bastante.
really wish theyd do an update just to remove boxer maneuver, it just reaks of an unintended effect that boosts science vessels which already have multiple great abilities.
You can anyway not walloff on this kind od terrain.. because there are stones..
the m&m vessel + battlecruiser is a counter strategy against ultraling mass estrategy
13:32 - why on earth there are sunkens in two colours?!
The blue ones are neutral. Just preventing wall-offs in the early game.
Falcon, I'm no pro, but it looked like the battlecruisers (and I think it was only worth doing with plural) more than made up for 800m/600g, and beyond that efficacy, they really did damage to and more importantly distracted, that big ol' Scourge count, giving the science vessels much-greater-than-otherwise counts and longer & more productive lives. Plus, beyond those, zet had very little to oppose a large air unit intruding on his less guarded bases...so maybe Nada looked at the two BC as guaranteed damage either to the Scourge (equating to an upper hand for his main force) or to some of zet's bases, given his rather telegraphed unit composition strategy.
the perfect christmas gift!
always baffles me why there arnt more snow dessert and laza maps in the korean starcraft scene
Ret is really impressive but you can clearly see how much stronger Jaedong is with micro
WOW! So many swings on this game that I actually got dizzy.
Boxer would murder that Zerg player every turn
M&Ms are overpowered, hasn't anyone heard this already one million times?
No.
ret plays like serral. Out macros and outlasts his opponent with the precise amount of defensive actions and units built. Eventually economics will play a factor and his multiple bases and expansions will begin to give him an advantage
i don't think they were taking this seriously
Finally! A comment I agree with lol. Who uses BCs in a pro game and who rushes ultras to 1 million marines without dark swarm? Felt like a training match or just a friendly one for fun
Man It is my 5th Terran vs Zerg Video That I am watching and always Terran loose. Feels bad man
I really thought zerg was gonna lose this. He wasted so so so many units. Doesnt matter i guess. For the swarm.
Edit: im a sc2 player who watches bw matches. Little crossover for ya.
he shouda have lost nada made some mistakes that game
BCs are great when supported by marines so that scourge cannot threaten them.
were do u get ur replays from
Lots of places. Foreign Brood War Discord server, bwreplays.net, teamliquid.net
Is this really [red]NaDa? Because I'd imagine him beating up this Zerg who A-moved most of the game. The BCs were genius - if only ret had 1 air carapace upgr, his scourges would have obliterated the BCs. The Science Vessels' irradiation move over the drones was annihilating, though. Sooo many hordes of drones died.
What is this map?
Honestly seems like mixing in a few battlecruisers could've been great against red's composition. Just park them over the marine ball and scourges have no hope of defeating the BCs. Heavy fire support.
Nice play, ret, and lol, poor stuck ultralisk
ret only has 2 hatch so theres no need to go up to 900 gas immediately. he'll have 6 larvae when spire finishes, and 700 gas - so, 6 muta and +1 upgrade or 7 muta. not like SC2 where you can have many larvae :)
one spore for red could have done wonders
2:10 AM, but going to bed is going to have to wait :P Also merry christmas!
thank you secret Santa!
Haha you're welcome. :)
Dark swarm makes the difference :)
I feel ret could have won on the first ultra attack if he had cut back about 2-3 ultras and added more lings instead, its even kind of funny how some of his best trades were just small groups of lings with no support rushing through while his huge ultra groups died fighting M&M's untill he got defilers
Data point of one, but I watch both your SC2 content and your BW content.
soooo, if he hadn't gotten resource starved we'd have seen a Battlecruiser game? they are a natural addition to candy terran both in unit synergy and in simply not needing remotely near as much attention as other units.
i missed a cast o.O!
Hooray! New content!
I see battlecruisers, I click.
Re SC and SC2. There can be only one.
What is this meta? Zero lurkers vs mass marine+medic. Battlecruisers? Very late Defilers? Guardians? Refreshing :3 Thanks again for the great cast! Keep 'em coming xP
And I guess I'll try to take a look at Sc2 again at some point. Lost interest around Heart of the Swarm :/ Just seemed so attackmoveish with spell spam (forcefield, storm etc.) with lots of aoe damage (damn you mass banelings and colossi! :D).
Dunno if the meta had changed tho'.
Last time I recalled Reapers were made useless after WoL (only 1-2 for scout and then they're forgotten).
You should. I can safely say it is much improved.
Colossi were nerfed, they are only good against massed light and typically only used against Terran Bio now. Storms are just as good tbh, but feedback is nerfed and Disrupters provide an alternative source of AOE.
Zerg is interesting. Banelings are strong but very niche, hydralingbane is still meta but not the only opener anymore. Mutas are really meta, seeing them floating around in a death ball reminds me of brood war lol.
Reapers are still only made for scouting, but they are EXTREMELY important. Losing your reaper without any drone kills can feel like a GG in some games. Getting 6+ kills with reapers happens.
Late game zerg is almost always viper+flyers with ultra support, occasionally infesters too. Carriers got nerfed and require a lot of Micro, BCs got buffed and require less Micro. Tempests are the most common late game protoss stargate unit.
It's a very healthy game right now. Every unit has uses and Nydus is great again.
I cannot believe the outcome of this game, looked so bleak for the winner the entire time. Wowzies.
Battlecruiser operational, PLAGUUUUUU
Word homey this one was silly but fun
Old sc is the shit
Merry xmas Falcon, a NaDa game is a nice present, still rooting for the zerg regardless :p lets find out
so many ultras he just needed like a dozen adrenalings and he would have destroyed those marines.
incredible .Zerg ...
isnt this replay broken?
That was the first time I was rooting for the zerg against a terran.
One of the best things about this cast is a lot of closeups!
well, at least battlecruisers in SC2 are good now
why is it so zoomed in? wtf?
The ending surprise me! I tot terran is going to win.
they are Bad-Old-Cruisers
Ret shoulda used lings with his ultras and he wouldn't have lost so many ultra battles early on
Nada doesn't take him serious at all.
Marine micro? Nah
Battlecruiser are bad? so what
Throwing units into the grinder for no reason? sure
btw: i own you anyway. right after my cheese sandwich... nom
STARCRAFT PARTISANSHIP FTW
I really liked SC2 wing of liberty, but its downhill from there for SC2
Those ultras....
Nada has 600 APM at the start?!
It was a dropship killed on 25:10 min
omg sc1 music. Nostalgia
Вчера закончил проходить StarCraft: Remastered и ненавижу эту игру за её управление, из-за него очень сложно было играть. Пойду обратно в Starcraft 2, наслаждаться современностью
NaDa is really such a fool for losing this.
What? GTFO, he's a strong foreign player. Everyone loses. Pro SC is mostly fixed to South Korea, likely they are not BORN the best players ever as all the other countries can't keep up with the huge SC pro culture. If other countries did then you'd probably be seeing guys like Ret go toe-to-toe with whoever was the best SC BW at the time in South Korea. I follow Street Fighter religiously and being a Japanese game, those players dominated every other country, fast forward 12yrs and it's slipping, because lack of arcades, interest etc and now foreign players are showing they are more or less as good. From what ive seen this is what appears to happened with SC2 since BW.
thank you for spoiling idiot
This is game 2 of a bo3 game at one of the Blizzcon events i think. Nada went easy on Ret in this match but game 1 and game 3 he showed Ret who is boss lol
a plague at 14:30 could have ended the game.....or god forbid... a dark storm...
I dont get it, how they can reach 600apm. Even when im spamming i got max 400 and it got lower in a while. Amazing
i'm no pro and my apm certainly drops as the game goes on but at the beginning i can hit 600 apm just hitting 1 and 4 going between scv and cc. consistent practice will help your hands get faster, myelin sheaths ftw!
Cross-over? I watch both Starcraft and Brood War, lol
Woohoo! Not enough of us, to be honest.
`1-2 spores would change the match
8:38 Lazytown zerg version.
Amazing!
what is he getting at there at the end..."I understand it was the 90's"......
So the medic death is too gory for you? I thought they were part of SC's charm.
The 90s had a lots of limits being pushed.
The medic animation is real gory for a Terran death, most of them just blow up. For me, it made me feel real bad to lose a medic lmao. What a shitty way to die.
@@mynameisnobody454 I've seen a lot worse than that...
@@Illumirage In brood war? Well! It's not as bloody as the Ultralisk or the Hydralisk deaths... That's for sure... Hmm the firebat death is my favorite though. "OOOOAAAGGGGGHHHH" *BLOWS THE FUCK UP* lmao
Why do Terran players so often neglect to use the air power edge? Expensive, yes, but build a massive fleet and watch your opponents get CRUSHED. Attacks from the sky are my personal preference.
And for the Zerg, build a HUGE flock of Guardians, and reek HAVOC.
But Paladin, you are correct, Guardians are super vulnerable. Wraiths and cruisers, too. Still, a fleet of any of these can reek total chaos and massive destruction on an enemy.