Hmmmm, I'm 57. I've suffered with pneumonia and bronchitis and asthma from childhood. They didn't have this stuff when I was young and a dust mask was not something that was ever even seen in a shop. Probably not much sense spending that kind of money on myself now as any damage is already done. Having said that I would like to urge all youth to use this type of protection because a life of lung problems is no fun at all. Trust me. AND they look really cool, like something from "Halo" .
Yeah I hear you. I'm coming up on 40 now and had athsma with severe dust and fume sensitivity since my late 20s. I have had a lot of jobs where dust became an issue and currently work at a dusty paint warehouse. Money is decent because of hazmat pay. I had to quit other good paying jobs because of the dust. I've lasted at this job because I was introduced to paint respirators with added dust filters and they made a huge difference for me. I'd be dying at work otherwise. Covid just got me more aware of the PPE available and I'm kicking myself for not investing in one of these. Now there is a shortage. The rubber respirators are great but leave marks on the face and get uncomfortable. I definitely see the value in saving your lungs, this would do a better job and not leave permanent lines on my face from years of use.
the damage may be done but you can still slow the progression!! I would still highly recommend you invest in some quality PPE if you are still frequently exposed to dust etc.
Just bought one of these for my dental lab. love it, too bad I didn’t know you were selling these. They are pretty cool and you can change the ear muffs out for the 3M Peltor Worktunes and Bluetooth music and phone calls to your hearing protection.
This guy is absolutely right. I just bought the 600 version to paint with.It is without a doubt one of the best tools i have ever purchased. Its expensive, but super high quality. I don't know how I did without it. If it got stolen I would have to get another one immediately.
Hint: These are the only option for guys with a beard. Standard masks (tight seal) don't work even with stubbles, 3M actually recommends a clean shave 8 hours before the workshift. In short: bearded guys only can use masks with a "loose seal", that'll be powered systems that push the air out of the mask like the Versaflo. ;-)
I've recently acquired a TR-600 kit (it has bigger filters, and more filter options to protect against vapours). This is really without a doubt the best investment I've ever done, I should have bought it much sooner. I earn money with my woodwork, so it will quickly pay off. You are saying it's not giving you extra protection then the standard half mask - I completely disagree. On paper it gives 50x reduction in dust particles, while a standard half mask is around 10x. Because it creates high pressure area inside the helmet, the dust simply can not enter it (despite it being not airtight) - while a half mask must rely on being airtight, which it will not be, so a lot of dust enters it anyway, especially if you have even small amounts of facial hair. But in practice it's even worse because I just could not work extended periods of time wearing a simple mask, so I had to remove it from time to time, but then I would end up breathing a lot of dust (even though it seemed like all the dust has cleared). Also, there are a lot of tasks that produce low dust, so I wouldn't bother putting the halfmask on because of the discomfort, and again I would breathe dust. Or the tasks that require a lot of movement, which made breathing harder and more fog build up on the goggles. This thing, I don't have to remove at all and it's comfortable for any task, which means I never have to deal with any dust unprotected. Another important factor often overlooked, is the protection of the eyes from dust. All goggles must have some kind of ventilation to minimize the fog building up, which means fine particles will enter the goggles and end up in your eyes. This one does not, and completely protects your eyes from dust. If you are a hobbyist, working with dust just now and then, a half mask is fine. But if have to deal with dust on daily basis, then this thing is an absolute must. I can't imagine working without it now.
Awesome products.. My father used to be a Sales manager back in the days when Hörnell used to make them, they made the Speedglas helmets too. Later they sold the company to 3M.
Great bit of kit but look up the JSP Infinity Power Cap. I have used both and I bought the JSP for myself and the lads at work. No pipes or belts, everything is contained in the helmet.
They need to make noise cancelling headphones to attach to the helmet... Didn't you have a mic setup when you 1st got yours? I thought I remembered you talking with it on a few times...
I love my adflo setup on my speedglas and really need to add one of these face shields for heavy grinding as I can use the same power unit I already have.
Actually it does provide a higher level of protection than a standard half mask according to the NIOSH Assigned protection factors. A loose fitting PAPR or PAPR hood provides an APF of 25 while a half mask is only 10. A full face air purifying respirator provides an APF of 50. There are of course exceptions to the rule if the manufacturer can prove it provides a greater protection factor and get NIOSH approval. For example the PAPR I use at work as an APF of 1000 with a hood because of this.
Agreed, everyone should have a PAPR. My company has been at work on a PAPR with an all in one design monocoque manifold. Our aim is a PAPR that's more accessible to the DIY crowd. When we have certification, would you be willing to give it a try to compare? Its called MicroClimate Air3.
Looks like every time you flip it up small dust particles can get on the inside lens or material seal because you push it up above your glasses onto the top of the hood which has dust on because it’s exposed to the outside.
My son needs one of these, he is in so collision college right now. But he also needs it to filter out paint and chemicals add well as dust particles from sanding. I would like to order from you.. I love you (like a son) and want you to get the profits
@@biagiopasseri6189 You are probably correct but it depends on the filter being used. I have the TR-600 model which does gases chemicals and not just particulates. With just a P filter for particulates only yes you can smell the odour and everything but using a A2P filter i cannot smell any odour or bad smells. So it depends on the filter you are using.
Would these work cleaning old dusty log houses full of wood dust and insects dating from +200 years (1800-century) ? The floor and air is full of tiny dust particles visible with flashlight. 3M 7502 and 6800 are not sufficient. I use P3 and 6059 ABEK1 filters. 7502 is good but the seal fails if you move too much. ( 6800(medium) leaks too much it is not fit for my head. I don't know if 6900(large) is better.
Try spraying some solvent based paint and you will see that some of the fumes end up inside the helmet. Meaning that anything else that is small enough also makes it through. You just don't smell it. Truth is no amount of forced air can be a substitute for an airtight seal arouind your face.
This one (tr300) is not made to filter organic fumes, so it's normal to smell it in the mask. The tr600 filter also organic fumes and a lot of other and nothing gets inside. It as performant as a closed mask, even better as there is no size adaptation problem.
The full face does offer more facial/eye protection than a 1/2 face APR with safety glasses, especially in awkward body positions (when using a hand-held grinder of farm equipment or on structural steel). No way a piece of debris is going to find a way around that mask.
GREAT VIDEO! Been researching this TR-300+ model... but I'm finding that you cannot get Organic Vapor filters for it....? Can you confirm? I see the OV filters that 3M has for the Versaflo system are only for the TR-600+ and up models... please let me know as I need to use this to Paint with as well. Thank you!!
$1400 is a lot. But hearing loss is about $3k for hearing aids, my eyes are probably insurance $10K a piece. Lungs, well you get chronic silicosis and you will die. So is it worth it? Yes, if you are going to do this stuff all day it will be a time saver and more likely you will wear your eye, ear, and lung protection for long periods. Will I buy it, no. I don't do it all day. Do I wear all my protection? YES! If I did this all day I would buy one of these without hesitating.
Hey Steve! They actually do have one! The TR series PAPR blowers are designed to be used with a series of different masks and head coverings, one of which being an auto darkening welding mask. Don’t ask me what the model is though, haha. I’m only familiar with the M and S series masks.
I'm Brazilian and I'm a big fan of you, even though I don't know how to speak your language, I watch all your videos. Congratulations on your channel’s success. When my conditions improve I will buy a shirt from your channel. I live in the state of Paraná in the city of Toledo.
if you have a beard, this is the best bet. you can't wear a standard breath filter because,... well,... you have a beard. I have been looking at these for a while now as I set up my shop. They are expensive, but they are also going to last a long time.
I can't speak to this one specifically (i have the older style gvp by 3m), but my understanding is 8+hours per battery (that's what i get). I believe these are nicer as they have lithium batteries, so they won't with (edit:weigh) quite as much and charge faster. (mine is nicad i believe, 15 hour charge time - bleh)
@@super_slo thnx for the info. I know the Feds/CalFire have been testing several types of apparatuses but nothing really "works" in our field. Several agencies have suggested to just use scuba (or regular firefighting type) devices but that simply don't work. Something of this nature might be able to be converted or altered to work.
@@forestwolf60 i know for the gvp series, there is an optional accessory that allows hooking the power up to a different source, generally a vehicle (I'm saving up to get one and try connecting it to my Makita batteries, fast recharge and higher energy density - plus the oem nicad batteries are like $300 new [!] for extras/replacements). I'm not kidding - they have their configuration matrix as a series of rather large flowchart type maps, and it's quite a few pages long (just the pics and model numbers with lines showing standard acceptable configurations; detailed info on the actual items is a separate lookup.) It's kind of crazy! Also, with some models, there are elevation restrictions (model x below some thousand ft, model y is ok up to some other elevation - is been a couple years so I don't recall the actual limits). These are a sizable investment, not just in money, but also in educating yourself so you buy something actually compatible with your specific requirements. BUT: absolutely worth it, IMHO.
I have TR-600 With a new high capacity li-ion battery and fresh filter, I can work 8 hours, and it still has 3/5 charge left. I like to have spare batteries with all my devices, but with this one it's not necessary.
Iceteavanill the filter is like an n-95 mask and with the positive airflow it should keep anything out of the mask. They make a special hood for $49 dollars for biological protection. 3m versaflo hood assembly inner collar with premium head suspension S-655
There's a RIDICULOUS number of accessories/configurations/filters for these. Lol, none of them are cheap, but he's not lying - they are stupid comfortable and the safety factor is truly impressive.
Matthew Ball they ve protective covers for this mask/helmet too, or a full hood, that are specifically designed to be used for painting. Check with 3M I'm sure they have a number you can call and they'll tell you exactly which setup is best suited for the types of work you do including which filter to use and all that. I don't have anything else to do with 3M other than using and loving their protective gear.
@@DavidSnooWilson i have the 9100fx adflo it costs 1200 and its worth it to me Do find it odd it costs that much when the welding helmet plus adflo is cheaper then that thing
All papr systems are expensive. His price actually isn't bad. I assume you are paying for r&d, long term testing, and certifications. They sell these systems to work in some pretty severe scenarios, so I'd imagine there's a fair bit of liability they carry as well. Think asbestos abatement, lead abatement, super harsh painting and coatings, working with chemicals, they are honestly worth it. That said, watch eBay and you can usually find a couple used ones in good condition for a pretty steep discount. Just make sure you inspect the hell out of it and get new filters!
It's actually very reasonable. A fee of an independent contractor is about 50 euro/hour here in Belgium. Which would be about 400 euro a day. (before tax, not including other expenses). A working professional can pay it off in less than a week. So yeah, all things considered the price of this thing is nothing in comparison to your health.
So why doesn't Will use one ?....especially as he does a LOT of grinding on your channel .... I would have thought as a responsible employer you would supply him the same PPE as you use?.....
he did say that there is no increase in safety with this product, its just for comfort. As an employer i wouldn't expect him to buy luxury safety equipment on employees
@@aarontracy6015 Difference being your life is not dependent on a fancified dust mask, and there is simply no excuse for this to be $1000. A face shield costs $40. A shop vaccum costs $100. A regular shop respirator costs $35. A set of earmuffs costs like $20. I'd say $300 bucks would be reasonable for this thing. $1400 is piracy.
@@jakemakes You could certainly buy less expensive, but you get a lot more options with this that are worth the money. Don't buy it, I don't care. But if people buy it, the pricing isn't absurd, you just don't want to pay it, or can't. Face it, if your channel had a million subscribers you would buy one.
Could just buy a mask, 3d print the helmet, buy some muffs, 3d print the attachment, get the metal spring clips, and make your own vacuum / blower system with 3d printing, a replacement vacuum hose with quick attach points, etc... and you can even set it up to use your rechargeable drill batteries. Wouldn't take that much effort and you can design it to use the same filters, or you can make those yourself too - making a quality filter isn't difficult.
i dont fear covid more than i fear smelling my own fart, but sadly enough I actually need this so I can breathe comfortably when going to places that require masks, like the library or any govornment facility.
@@JohnSmith-se5vo ya fr actually. i still havent put on one of those dumb face clothes. i have the versaflow 300. smelling farts is actually the worst when using it.
@@comecaca5228 - there is a big difference between a 5-minute commercial and an informative video on the products they are selling. If I wanted to watch a commercial I would turn on the TV. it's all about format (as for one channel is for forging and this one is for commercials..... Glade you worked that out. with a name like caca, I wrongly assumed you were shit for brains)
Hmmmm, I'm 57. I've suffered with pneumonia and bronchitis and asthma from childhood. They didn't have this stuff when I was young and a dust mask was not something that was ever even seen in a shop. Probably not much sense spending that kind of money on myself now as any damage is already done. Having said that I would like to urge all youth to use this type of protection because a life of lung problems is no fun at all. Trust me. AND they look really cool, like something from "Halo" .
Yeah I hear you. I'm coming up on 40 now and had athsma with severe dust and fume sensitivity since my late 20s.
I have had a lot of jobs where dust became an issue and currently work at a dusty paint warehouse. Money is decent because of hazmat pay.
I had to quit other good paying jobs because of the dust.
I've lasted at this job because I was introduced to paint respirators with added dust filters and they made a huge difference for me. I'd be dying at work otherwise.
Covid just got me more aware of the PPE available and I'm kicking myself for not investing in one of these. Now there is a shortage.
The rubber respirators are great but leave marks on the face and get uncomfortable.
I definitely see the value in saving your lungs, this would do a better job and not leave permanent lines on my face from years of use.
the damage may be done but you can still slow the progression!! I would still highly recommend you invest in some quality PPE if you are still frequently exposed to dust etc.
Just bought one of these for my dental lab. love it, too bad I didn’t know you were selling these. They are pretty cool and you can change the ear muffs out for the 3M Peltor Worktunes and Bluetooth music and phone calls to your hearing protection.
Do you actually use it while working on a patient ?
@@ArthA122 he said dental lab
This guy is absolutely right. I just bought the 600 version to paint with.It is without a doubt one of the best tools i have ever purchased. Its expensive, but super high quality. I don't know how I did without it. If it got stolen I would have to get another one immediately.
Hint: These are the only option for guys with a beard. Standard masks (tight seal) don't work even with stubbles, 3M actually recommends a clean shave 8 hours before the workshift. In short: bearded guys only can use masks with a "loose seal", that'll be powered systems that push the air out of the mask like the Versaflo. ;-)
It's not. There is something called a resp-o-rator. Which looks like a snorkel with a filter on it for around a hundred bucks
I've recently acquired a TR-600 kit (it has bigger filters, and more filter options to protect against vapours).
This is really without a doubt the best investment I've ever done, I should have bought it much sooner. I earn money with my woodwork, so it will quickly pay off.
You are saying it's not giving you extra protection then the standard half mask - I completely disagree. On paper it gives 50x reduction in dust particles, while a standard half mask is around 10x.
Because it creates high pressure area inside the helmet, the dust simply can not enter it (despite it being not airtight) - while a half mask must rely on being airtight, which it will not be, so a lot of dust enters it anyway, especially if you have even small amounts of facial hair.
But in practice it's even worse because I just could not work extended periods of time wearing a simple mask, so I had to remove it from time to time, but then I would end up breathing a lot of dust (even though it seemed like all the dust has cleared).
Also, there are a lot of tasks that produce low dust, so I wouldn't bother putting the halfmask on because of the discomfort, and again I would breathe dust. Or the tasks that require a lot of movement, which made breathing harder and more fog build up on the goggles.
This thing, I don't have to remove at all and it's comfortable for any task, which means I never have to deal with any dust unprotected.
Another important factor often overlooked, is the protection of the eyes from dust. All goggles must have some kind of ventilation to minimize the fog building up, which means fine particles will enter the goggles and end up in your eyes. This one does not, and completely protects your eyes from dust.
If you are a hobbyist, working with dust just now and then, a half mask is fine. But if have to deal with dust on daily basis, then this thing is an absolute must. I can't imagine working without it now.
Awesome products..
My father used to be a Sales manager back in the days when Hörnell used to make them, they made the Speedglas helmets too.
Later they sold the company to 3M.
Thanks Alex. Seen several reviews but no one showed them actually using it. Go job, Sir. Yes I called you "SIR" !!!
Great bit of kit but look up the JSP Infinity Power Cap. I have used both and I bought the JSP for myself and the lads at work.
No pipes or belts, everything is contained in the helmet.
Getting one of these as I work with resin (isocyanate and polyol) with the organic filters. Hoping it’s lightweight enough to wear all day!
They need to make noise cancelling headphones to attach to the helmet... Didn't you have a mic setup when you 1st got yours? I thought I remembered you talking with it on a few times...
I need this to go to Walmart.
I love my adflo setup on my speedglas and really need to add one of these face shields for heavy grinding as I can use the same power unit I already have.
Then just get the 9100fx welding helmet
@@STOkitten I already have one.
Actually it does provide a higher level of protection than a standard half mask according to the NIOSH Assigned protection factors. A loose fitting PAPR or PAPR hood provides an APF of 25 while a half mask is only 10. A full face air purifying respirator provides an APF of 50. There are of course exceptions to the rule if the manufacturer can prove it provides a greater protection factor and get NIOSH approval. For example the PAPR I use at work as an APF of 1000 with a hood because of this.
I have and adflo and it has an included welding shield that flips up and down.
Hi. Thanks for sharing detailed information about your 3M Versaflo respirators!
How do you clean filters, by the way?
Agreed, everyone should have a PAPR. My company has been at work on a PAPR with an all in one design monocoque manifold. Our aim is a PAPR that's more accessible to the DIY crowd. When we have certification, would you be willing to give it a try to compare? Its called MicroClimate Air3.
Looks like every time you flip it up small dust particles can get on the inside lens or material seal because you push it up above your glasses onto the top of the hood which has dust on because it’s exposed to the outside.
I don't see these on your website anymore... when will they be back?
NO, it is the SATA made one, this has a cooler/ heater accessory that you plug in to the air line.
what about the welders mask you also use, is that gonna be aviable too
~blinks~ You can get a Welding Helmet in any local Welding Supply or Hardware Store
My son needs one of these, he is in so collision college right now. But he also needs it to filter out paint and chemicals add well as dust particles from sanding.
I would like to order from you.. I love you (like a son) and want you to get the profits
Does this product handle paint fumes? If not is there a filter for it?
Does dust get in your eyes when you flip the mask up??? Seems like dust would get on your eyes
"Earthling bring me to your leader!"
Just don't fart in it mate, won't be cool air blowing over ya face
It can filter farts so you wouldn't even notice.
@@JohnSmith-se5vo wear em everyday on a mine site with the belt and trust me mate they don't filter em out🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@biagiopasseri6189 You are probably correct but it depends on the filter being used. I have the TR-600 model which does gases chemicals and not just particulates. With just a P filter for particulates only yes you can smell the odour and everything but using a A2P filter i cannot smell any odour or bad smells. So it depends on the filter you are using.
I learned that the hard way, if you have issues with gas try to wear the blower on the front lmao
Would these work cleaning old dusty log houses full of wood dust and insects dating from +200 years (1800-century) ? The floor and air is full of tiny dust particles visible with flashlight.
3M 7502 and 6800 are not sufficient. I use P3 and 6059 ABEK1 filters.
7502 is good but the seal fails if you move too much.
( 6800(medium) leaks too much it is not fit for my head. I don't know if 6900(large) is better.
Try spraying some solvent based paint and you will see that some of the fumes end up inside the helmet.
Meaning that anything else that is small enough also makes it through. You just don't smell it.
Truth is no amount of forced air can be a substitute for an airtight seal arouind your face.
This one (tr300) is not made to filter organic fumes, so it's normal to smell it in the mask. The tr600 filter also organic fumes and a lot of other and nothing gets inside. It as performant as a closed mask, even better as there is no size adaptation problem.
The full face does offer more facial/eye protection than a 1/2 face APR with safety glasses, especially in awkward body positions (when using a hand-held grinder of farm equipment or on structural steel). No way a piece of debris is going to find a way around that mask.
Oh yes! Makes for a massive benefit for sure!
With the grinders in an enclosed dusty room... is there a concern for metal dust collection to avoid say.... inadvertent thermite creation?
GREAT VIDEO! Been researching this TR-300+ model... but I'm finding that you cannot get Organic Vapor filters for it....? Can you confirm? I see the OV filters that 3M has for the Versaflo system are only for the TR-600+ and up models... please let me know as I need to use this to Paint with as well. Thank you!!
How can i get it?
Getting the welding setup of this
Alec, the helmet guy, good English❤ humanidad ❤
How would it work for diesel exhaust on high paced commercial fish boat how long will bat last Need 12 hours I am based in tampa area
How does the versaflo papr unit compare with the adflo?
Depends wat u wanna do with it
Cool gear for metal work.
$1400 is a lot. But hearing loss is about $3k for hearing aids, my eyes are probably insurance $10K a piece. Lungs, well you get chronic silicosis and you will die. So is it worth it? Yes, if you are going to do this stuff all day it will be a time saver and more likely you will wear your eye, ear, and lung protection for long periods. Will I buy it, no. I don't do it all day. Do I wear all my protection? YES! If I did this all day I would buy one of these without hesitating.
I already have the 3m speedglass welding hood Adflo system. Would that be compatible with just the respirator hood?
I was wondering the same, did you figure it out yet?
I don't see them on your website anymore?
If you fart does the smell travel through the device and into your face?
it needs to have an auto darkening welding version also
Hey Steve! They actually do have one! The TR series PAPR blowers are designed to be used with a series of different masks and head coverings, one of which being an auto darkening welding mask. Don’t ask me what the model is though, haha. I’m only familiar with the M and S series masks.
9100xf adflow
how long does the battery last for?
I'm Brazilian and I'm a big fan of you, even though I don't know how to speak your language, I watch all your videos. Congratulations on your channel’s success. When my conditions improve I will buy a shirt from your channel. I live in the state of Paraná in the city of Toledo.
Wish it was for spray painting
The 3m tr-800 is the one for spray painting. Same helmet though.
Would this respirator be suitable for stone work
Waiting to see what accessories he starts carrying.
if you have a beard, this is the best bet.
you can't wear a standard breath filter because,... well,... you have a beard.
I have been looking at these for a while now as I set up my shop.
They are expensive, but they are also going to last a long time.
Is it useful for the corona virus
it could never be the same again.
But does it stop Covid?
100%
Especially seeing as how if you're wearing it in public noone will come near you
Great for insulation work
Awww that is really unfortunate.
Poor soul
I need that for the covid19
What's the battery life on that thing? We (wildland firefighting world) will have to transition into wearing something like this in a few years.
I can't speak to this one specifically (i have the older style gvp by 3m), but my understanding is 8+hours per battery (that's what i get). I believe these are nicer as they have lithium batteries, so they won't with (edit:weigh) quite as much and charge faster. (mine is nicad i believe, 15 hour charge time - bleh)
@@super_slo thnx for the info. I know the Feds/CalFire have been testing several types of apparatuses but nothing really "works" in our field. Several agencies have suggested to just use scuba (or regular firefighting type) devices but that simply don't work. Something of this nature might be able to be converted or altered to work.
@@forestwolf60 i know for the gvp series, there is an optional accessory that allows hooking the power up to a different source, generally a vehicle (I'm saving up to get one and try connecting it to my Makita batteries, fast recharge and higher energy density - plus the oem nicad batteries are like $300 new [!] for extras/replacements). I'm not kidding - they have their configuration matrix as a series of rather large flowchart type maps, and it's quite a few pages long (just the pics and model numbers with lines showing standard acceptable configurations; detailed info on the actual items is a separate lookup.) It's kind of crazy! Also, with some models, there are elevation restrictions (model x below some thousand ft, model y is ok up to some other elevation - is been a couple years so I don't recall the actual limits). These are a sizable investment, not just in money, but also in educating yourself so you buy something actually compatible with your specific requirements. BUT: absolutely worth it, IMHO.
I have TR-600
With a new high capacity li-ion battery and fresh filter, I can work 8 hours, and it still has 3/5 charge left.
I like to have spare batteries with all my devices, but with this one it's not necessary.
Can this thing protect you from small particulates such as viruses?
With a different hood you can. The base unit is the same as what they use for bio protection.
@@jedimario22 Thanks mate!
do your glasses fog up?
Why would his glasses fog up if it blows cold air?
My mentor works at 3m
Does the filter protect from biological hazards?
Iceteavanill the filter is like an n-95 mask and with the positive airflow it should keep anything out of the mask. They make a special hood for $49 dollars for biological protection. 3m versaflo hood assembly inner collar with premium head suspension S-655
The also have a bunch of different filters for all kinds of chemical, biological and particles.
There's a RIDICULOUS number of accessories/configurations/filters for these. Lol, none of them are cheap, but he's not lying - they are stupid comfortable and the safety factor is truly impressive.
Doesn’t look like it would be the right system for painting company. Can you comment to that? We spray a lot of interior solvent based products.
Matthew Ball they ve protective covers for this mask/helmet too, or a full hood, that are specifically designed to be used for painting. Check with 3M I'm sure they have a number you can call and they'll tell you exactly which setup is best suited for the types of work you do including which filter to use and all that. I don't have anything else to do with 3M other than using and loving their protective gear.
$1500.... you can get them way cheaper! They are great but this is way too much
I found one online from a uk seller selling them for £650 or about $750 - $800
$1500 is to much for u?
I believe ur health is easy worth 100 times that amount
Irish, no I mean you can buy them much cheaper. I own one, they are great I use it everyday. but 1500 is twice the price you can get it for.
@@DavidSnooWilson i have the 9100fx adflo it costs 1200 and its worth it to me
Do find it odd it costs that much when the welding helmet plus adflo is cheaper then that thing
When I absolutely refuse to get covid
Nice :)
Would it work with covid 19?
This is mainly for dust not gas or anything else
I still can not believe that Will is not using this glorious looking piece of equipment.
Why is it that expensive????!!!
Cheap compared to messing up your lungs. Or you just a broke boi
All papr systems are expensive. His price actually isn't bad. I assume you are paying for r&d, long term testing, and certifications. They sell these systems to work in some pretty severe scenarios, so I'd imagine there's a fair bit of liability they carry as well. Think asbestos abatement, lead abatement, super harsh painting and coatings, working with chemicals, they are honestly worth it. That said, watch eBay and you can usually find a couple used ones in good condition for a pretty steep discount. Just make sure you inspect the hell out of it and get new filters!
It's actually very reasonable. A fee of an independent contractor is about 50 euro/hour here in Belgium. Which would be about 400 euro a day. (before tax, not including other expenses).
A working professional can pay it off in less than a week.
So yeah, all things considered the price of this thing is nothing in comparison to your health.
@@raytracer5726 if he/she has no other bills that is.
How heavy is the headpiece with the earmuffs on?
Pretty heavy with the earmuffs but it does balance the weight better on your head
You'll be safe from Corona..😁
How is it not fogging up?
Cuz it blows cold air ?
It will fog up if its off
75
Ela passa odor
what happens when you fart? just saying
So why doesn't Will use one ?....especially as he does a LOT of grinding on your channel .... I would have thought as a responsible employer you would supply him the same PPE as you use?.....
he did say that there is no increase in safety with this product, its just for comfort. As an employer i wouldn't expect him to buy luxury safety equipment on employees
The pricing is absurd.....
So is the second regulator on your scuba tank, except when you are 80 feet down and need it.
@@aarontracy6015 Difference being your life is not dependent on a fancified dust mask, and there is simply no excuse for this to be $1000. A face shield costs $40. A shop vaccum costs $100. A regular shop respirator costs $35. A set of earmuffs costs like $20. I'd say $300 bucks would be reasonable for this thing. $1400 is piracy.
@@jakemakes You could certainly buy less expensive, but you get a lot more options with this that are worth the money. Don't buy it, I don't care. But if people buy it, the pricing isn't absurd, you just don't want to pay it, or can't. Face it, if your channel had a million subscribers you would buy one.
Could just buy a mask, 3d print the helmet, buy some muffs, 3d print the attachment, get the metal spring clips, and make your own vacuum / blower system with 3d printing, a replacement vacuum hose with quick attach points, etc... and you can even set it up to use your rechargeable drill batteries.
Wouldn't take that much effort and you can design it to use the same filters, or you can make those yourself too - making a quality filter isn't difficult.
@@Acecool And you could sell it and make loads of money. I will wait for the link to your site selling this. LOL
Only if this was n95 compliant… I will pick one up instantly with everything going on
With the right filter it's p100
Si tan solo ablaras español o almenos subtítulos
i dont fear covid more than i fear smelling my own fart, but sadly enough I actually need this so I can breathe comfortably when going to places that require masks, like the library or any govornment facility.
Get the TR-600 series with an organic vapour filter and you won't have to worry about farts
@@JohnSmith-se5vo ya fr actually. i still havent put on one of those dumb face clothes. i have the versaflow 300. smelling farts is actually the worst when using it.
@@animearmpits3060 I have the 600 series with the organic filter. It filters out all body odours, farts, nasty smells etc..
Great, 5-minute commercials rather than videos
Weaponeer this channel is specifically for that. The other one is for forging videos you fool
@@comecaca5228 - there is a big difference between a 5-minute commercial and an informative video on the products they are selling. If I wanted to watch a commercial I would turn on the TV. it's all about format (as for one channel is for forging and this one is for commercials..... Glade you worked that out. with a name like caca, I wrongly assumed you were shit for brains)
@@weaponeer Hey douche bag, this is his second channel. Alec Steele Co. Guess you missed that?