I also recently purchased the TC16. You're right, it is heavy. My biggest problem is how to pack it nicely. The two ends are bulky and unwieldy to fold. I noticed your way of packing it is to fold the bottom 'in' instead 'out' as the Sea Eagle folks showed. But that video was from 2015, may be the product was different. I built myself a cart, 1/2" x 36" threaded rod and two 14" plastic wheels. With the canoe strapped to the cart, it can be easily pulled across much longer distance.
How do you like it? Why did you get an inflatable versus a traditional canoe? I learned about folding the bottom IN from the instructions that came with my boat. Check it out if you still have them! Great idea on the cart. I'm trying out Sea Eagle's EZcart right now which is the same approach as you've done. I'll be releasing and unboxing and review videos in the coming weeks.
@@OldManofNewEngland This is my first canoe and inflatable one is the only option for my class B RV (Coachmen Galleria 24FL). I used it only once, it's smooth and easy to maneuver, but boy is it heavy! I'm still learning to refine the art of folding it since my RV has a very tight space underneath the rear bed frame.
Kayaking has become so popular that the art of canoe paddling seems to be diminishing. I rediscovered canoeing recently through a friend with amazing paddling skills! My kayaks remain covered in dust in the garage. My four canoes are always wet!
I was surprised to see the skeg not used. Helps with taking the brunt of bottom abrasion and also makes steering much easier and less physical effort. All of us know how to paddle my friend. hahaha!
Agreed! It just kills me to put a skeg on my canoe. I’m convinced I can overcome anything with the proper paddling. If I were to go out for a few days on this, in open water, I think it would be a good idea! 😉 Thanks for watching!
I've just bought Tahe Breeze Full HP2 , I suppose it's in the same class like Razor, I am really happy with that, I consider it is a great choise for those who don't want to deal with uncomfartable transportation and storage, and I think it is much safer too that plastic one
Looks good. I think you might find that it will track much better with the skeg/fin installed. Seemed as though you were waggling a wee bit while paddling for an effortless straight tack. Just a suggestion. I noticed the bottom was totally flat like a river canoe. On a lake it's nice to have a keel ridge or in this case a skeg. Cheers.
Imightberiding- you’re absolutely right…but I just can’t get myself to put it on. I did it once last summer, but didn’t notice a significant difference. I always feel I can paddle more accurately. 😂
If your canoe is leaking, it's most likely missing a gasket. I don't like the drain design. My Sea Eagle 380x has small gaskets around the 16 drain plugs and they'll pop out without you even noticing. However, you can find replacements at an ace hardware or another similar store. Hope that helps. Took me a while to figure out why two of my drains were leaking.
So i have a fix for you back problem and heaviness. I got a trolly that would usually wheel heavy boxes. I can wheel it everywhere by myself its soo good. I love my T-16 canoe
Thanks for sharing. Excellent review. Currently researching inflatables and it's not easy finding decent real world reviews. Another youtuber, Bert's Adventures, has a very good review on a Sea Eagle Razorlite 393RL single seat kayak if you're interested. Totally relate to the weight issue. My sit on top rotomolded kayak weighs around 75lbs and getting it on and off the roof rack is no fun at my age either.
The razor lite is nice. We considered inflatable kayaks before we purchased this and ultimately decided on the canoe. We love to canoe, we like being in the same boat, and it’s much drier. I currently have multiple hard shell canoes and kayaks. Invariably, the kayaks remaining hanging in the garage while the canoes always end up in the water.
Maybe I'll see you on the water, being a fellow New Englander Sea Eagle fan. Can you recommend any good locations? I started with a Sea Eagle SE330. The following year I upgraded to the model I really wanted, the Sea Eagle Paddleski. I've had it about 10 years now. I estimate it's been used about 425 times, at over 125 locations from Maine to the Florida Keys. I love the Paddleski because it is compatible with a powerful gas motor, or the Torqeedo 1003s lithium motor I bought that is equivalent to a 3 or 4 HP, but fits in the trunk of my sedan with no gasoline smell or worry of a spill, along with the boat and many accessories. I also have a full sail rig (Sunfish style) that goes in a golf bag sized package I place in the back seat as the trunk is full. I take 3 adults on occasion, but more crowded than the TC16. My wife and I have taken two teens many times. The stability of it is greater than any kayak or canoe I know of with pontoons, yet it paddles pretty well in calm water. On windy days, I prefer to motor or sail. I also love motoring or sailing a good distance to an interesting area, and paddling along the shore line. I liked this boat so much, I bought a 2nd one as spare recently in case anything happened to it. I also have three Sea Eagle SE330's now.
You've got quite the stable of Sea Eagles! I have the Delorme Gazetteer for all the NE states and use this as my guide to good places. I also recommend the AMC flat water guide for NH/VT. Paddle on, my friend!
suggestion: just leave the hose uncoiled in your car. i think it puts a lot of stress on it to jam it into the Btp carry case. unless u really use it places other than your van
Good review. Don't you have the option to put the Sea Eagle up on your roof fully inflated when you don't have time or want to hassel with folding up and stowing?
The Roadtrek has a fiberglass top. I can't attach a rack to it...at least not in a way I feel comfortable with. Also, that 9 foot + height would then require a ladder. As much of a hassle of the blow up and deflate process, it seems best for us. And since I recorded this video, my approach is getting better and better (or I'm getting more patient!). Thanks for watching!
Hi Bud - Sea Eagle is out of Port Jeff, Long Island, NY. I'm not sure what their current pricing is or the location of manufacture. Best bet is to check their website at seaeagle.com.
We love it too. Allows us to use it through the winter. I’m really careful to dry the boat as I fold it. So far… no issues. Someone recorded a great video on how to do this. I may repeat it since it’s so important. Thanks for the comment!
You mentioned the additional setup/teardown time a couple of times. How long does it take? We bought a first generation Onak folding canoe a couple of years ago, and also found setup/teardown to be a bigger issue than we'd imagined. Takes some of the fun out of it. Like you, we got it so we could pack it in our van, but unless we're going to stay somewhere for a few days, we don't bother setting it up.
Hi Paul - it takes about 15 minutes. With the electric pump I find I can now be doing other things like bringing the paddles and PFD’s to the put in while it inflates. There are three chambers so you need to be around to switch from one to the next. The fold up takes some practice to get it into a size that fits back in the van…and you need to be careful to wipe it down as you pack it up to avoid mildew if it’s going to be stored for awhile. I think the electric pump was a real game-changer. I hate to admit that pumping it manually was a drag and hurt my back. Hence the “Old” in “Old Man of New England.” I’ve learned to be patient so I can take advantage of it whenever we see water we want to paddle. It can’t compare to the Kevlar canoes we have that take 5 minutes to take on and off the car. I need to remind myself the TC16 isn’t a Kevlar Wenonah. 😁
@@OldManofNewEngland Thanks! 15 minutes is pretty good. We've assembled the Onak in 20, but you're busy the whole time doing nothing but putting it together. Cleaning/drying is similar, but it comes apart pretty fast. Stowing the TC16 might be a problem -- the Onak is only 11x16x48, and it stores above our heads in the van (hi-roof ford transit). Don't know if the TC16 could be folded to make that work or not. I really appreciate your comments, and review. We haven't given up on the Onak yet (it's only 33lbs!), but it really is pretty fiddly. It's also twitchy when paddling -- the TC16 looks pretty stable, in your, and other reviews. We're nearby, BTW -- Arlington MA. Oh -- other boats -- I'm envious of your Wenonah! We spent a week in one in the Boundary Waters long ago. Superb boat. Our non-folder is an Old Town Penobscot 16, which we love, but we can't really put it on a 9' tall roof.
I have a question, I’m 6’3 and weigh 300lbs. I have lake/pond boat call Twin Troller x10. I love this boat but I am recovering from rotator cuff surgery and would like to have a boat that I could use now or a boat that I could bring to lakes that are more remote and this canoe looks like it could work out. What’s your thought? PS what part of New England are you from? Thanks
Hi Dennis, the biggest downfall of this boat from a portability standpoint is the weight. It's not terribly easy (at least for an old man) to carry very far alone. Even if you put it in a portage backpack, 60+ pounds is A LOT.
The "negatives" mentioned here are due to the wrong choice of boat for a single person. The TC16 is NOT a single person canoe. It is a 2-3 person fun boat. We have one in our family and for 2 adults and a kid it is about as perfect as it gets.
It’s definitely great as a tandem or triple! My wife and I use it all the time. Unfortunately there aren’t any options I know of for a nice, solo, inflatable so I use this for both. I’m posting a review shortly on paddling this solo. I find it works well. It’s just a heavy boat for an old man. 😉 I hope you enjoyed the video. Check out some of my others using more traditional canoes.
It looks very much like you're having to hold that paddle in an unbalanced position, as if the boat is too wide to effectively use the paddle. Of course I'm no expert on that since I've been a WW kayaker for 40+ years and I have no idea what the solution to that problem would be unless Sea Eagle makes a shorter and narrower version of that boat.
Great question. It’s still HEAVY. I find myself rarely packing it in my van and instead use my Kevlar Wenonah for all of my paddling. The downside is that I can’t paddle when I take out the van. It’s not fun to paddle solo and I typically use the van solo without my wife. I’m not selling it any time soon…but it may happen.
can buy a bracket of a sorts so that you put a electric motor on it. or will you have to come up with something yourself. eg a polystyrene block shaped to the tail with a board to sit on top like a L so its sit on top of the stern with a transom to mount the motor. then maybe strapped into place with staps to the canoes seat lugs.
It’s a pretty rugged material and the seating area is covered in a slip-resistant material. I don’t think there’s a chance of puncture unless those claws haven’t been trimmed in a long while. 😁
We have 393rls and a 20 pound mix who gets pretty sharp nails that break our skin when he jumps but the drop-stitch material is tough. We don't use any pads and he hops from one to the other with no visible wear.
I also recently purchased the TC16. You're right, it is heavy. My biggest problem is how to pack it nicely. The two ends are bulky and unwieldy to fold. I noticed your way of packing it is to fold the bottom 'in' instead 'out' as the Sea Eagle folks showed. But that video was from 2015, may be the product was different. I built myself a cart, 1/2" x 36" threaded rod and two 14" plastic wheels. With the canoe strapped to the cart, it can be easily pulled across much longer distance.
How do you like it? Why did you get an inflatable versus a traditional canoe? I learned about folding the bottom IN from the instructions that came with my boat. Check it out if you still have them! Great idea on the cart. I'm trying out Sea Eagle's EZcart right now which is the same approach as you've done. I'll be releasing and unboxing and review videos in the coming weeks.
@@OldManofNewEngland This is my first canoe and inflatable one is the only option for my class B RV (Coachmen Galleria 24FL). I used it only once, it's smooth and easy to maneuver, but boy is it heavy! I'm still learning to refine the art of folding it since my RV has a very tight space underneath the rear bed frame.
The pins you suggested are going to be a lifesaver. Getting those rings in and out took just as long as inflating and deflating.
I hope you like them as much as I do!
Nice to see someone that knows how to paddle.
Kayaking has become so popular that the art of canoe paddling seems to be diminishing. I rediscovered canoeing recently through a friend with amazing paddling skills! My kayaks remain covered in dust in the garage. My four canoes are always wet!
I was surprised to see the skeg not used. Helps with taking the brunt of bottom abrasion and also makes steering much easier and less physical effort. All of us know how to paddle my friend. hahaha!
Agreed! It just kills me to put a skeg on my canoe. I’m convinced I can overcome anything with the proper paddling. If I were to go out for a few days on this, in open water, I think it would be a good idea! 😉
Thanks for watching!
"As I get older..." I hear your brother. Great review.
“It’s better than the alternative,” as my Dad would say!
Thanks to tell the facts. Good job. Live is very short, enjoy it while you can. God Blessed.
I've just bought Tahe Breeze Full HP2 , I suppose it's in the same class like Razor, I am really happy with that, I consider it is a great choise for those who don't want to deal with uncomfartable transportation and storage, and I think it is much safer too that plastic one
The Tahe breeze has similar construction to the TC16. Drop stitch allows for the creation of some nice inflatables! Thanks for watching my review.
Looks good. I think you might find that it will track much better with the skeg/fin installed. Seemed as though you were waggling a wee bit while paddling for an effortless straight tack. Just a suggestion. I noticed the bottom was totally flat like a river canoe. On a lake it's nice to have a keel ridge or in this case a skeg. Cheers.
Imightberiding- you’re absolutely right…but I just can’t get myself to put it on. I did it once last summer, but didn’t notice a significant difference. I always feel I can paddle more accurately. 😂
If your canoe is leaking, it's most likely missing a gasket. I don't like the drain design. My Sea Eagle 380x has small gaskets around the 16 drain plugs and they'll pop out without you even noticing. However, you can find replacements at an ace hardware or another similar store. Hope that helps. Took me a while to figure out why two of my drains were leaking.
Interesting. I wonder if that was the case. Sea Eagle took it back and fixed it. All is well now.
Nice van too!! Thanks for the excellent product review.
I hope it was helpful, Brian!
So i have a fix for you back problem and heaviness. I got a trolly that would usually wheel heavy boxes. I can wheel it everywhere by myself its soo good. I love my T-16 canoe
Great idea!
Thanks for sharing. Excellent review. Currently researching inflatables and it's not easy finding decent real world reviews. Another youtuber, Bert's Adventures, has a very good review on a Sea Eagle Razorlite 393RL single seat kayak if you're interested. Totally relate to the weight issue. My sit on top rotomolded kayak weighs around 75lbs and getting it on and off the roof rack is no fun at my age either.
The razor lite is nice. We considered inflatable kayaks before we purchased this and ultimately decided on the canoe. We love to canoe, we like being in the same boat, and it’s much drier. I currently have multiple hard shell canoes and kayaks. Invariably, the kayaks remaining hanging in the garage while the canoes always end up in the water.
Great review. Keep up the good work.
Thanks! I hope it was helpful.
Lovely clear video … respect from the 🇬🇧
Thanks for the positive feedback!
Maybe I'll see you on the water, being a fellow New Englander Sea Eagle fan. Can you recommend any good locations?
I started with a Sea Eagle SE330. The following year I upgraded to the model I really wanted, the Sea Eagle Paddleski. I've had it about 10 years now. I estimate it's been used about 425 times, at over 125 locations from Maine to the Florida Keys. I love the Paddleski because it is compatible with a powerful gas motor, or the Torqeedo 1003s lithium motor I bought that is equivalent to a 3 or 4 HP, but fits in the trunk of my sedan with no gasoline smell or worry of a spill, along with the boat and many accessories. I also have a full sail rig (Sunfish style) that goes in a golf bag sized package I place in the back seat as the trunk is full. I take 3 adults on occasion, but more crowded than the TC16. My wife and I have taken two teens many times. The stability of it is greater than any kayak or canoe I know of with pontoons, yet it paddles pretty well in calm water. On windy days, I prefer to motor or sail. I also love motoring or sailing a good distance to an interesting area, and paddling along the shore line. I liked this boat so much, I bought a 2nd one as spare recently in case anything happened to it. I also have three Sea Eagle SE330's now.
You've got quite the stable of Sea Eagles! I have the Delorme Gazetteer for all the NE states and use this as my guide to good places. I also recommend the AMC flat water guide for NH/VT. Paddle on, my friend!
It probably leaks because of the inferior gaskets on your scuppers. I use a little grease on mine at the start of every season. No more leaks!
Check out my video on what Sea Eagle did. I’ll look at the gaskets as well. Thanks!
I'd be interested to know what SeaEagle has to say with regards to the leak...
Robert, check out my follow-up to the leak here ua-cam.com/video/QLHh1mNtgVE/v-deo.html
Awesome. We have a RT 210 and our tandem kayak.
The 210 is nice. Gives you just that little bit more width and length. Enjoy!
suggestion: just leave the hose uncoiled in your car. i think it puts a lot of stress on it to jam it into the Btp carry case. unless u really use it places other than your van
Good review. Don't you have the option to put the Sea Eagle up on your roof fully inflated when you don't have time or want to hassel with folding up and stowing?
The Roadtrek has a fiberglass top. I can't attach a rack to it...at least not in a way I feel comfortable with. Also, that 9 foot + height would then require a ladder. As much of a hassle of the blow up and deflate process, it seems best for us. And since I recorded this video, my approach is getting better and better (or I'm getting more patient!). Thanks for watching!
@@OldManofNewEngland thanks for the reply....helpful
Can you tell me the cost and where they are made? If not made in the USA the country of origin is very important to this old guy.
Hi Bud - Sea Eagle is out of Port Jeff, Long Island, NY. I'm not sure what their current pricing is or the location of manufacture. Best bet is to check their website at seaeagle.com.
Our 393rls were made in Korea...
Love the 4x4 Roadtrek! Do you worry about folding it up wet, no molding issues?
We love it too. Allows us to use it through the winter. I’m really careful to dry the boat as I fold it. So far… no issues. Someone recorded a great video on how to do this. I may repeat it since it’s so important. Thanks for the comment!
I'll pass on the canoe however, that is one fine choice of a van!!
interesting, i have had a couple btp 12 pumps and mine didnt have that giant colorful dial in the middle, i wonder if thats new or just the UK version
You mentioned the additional setup/teardown time a couple of times. How long does it take? We bought a first generation Onak folding canoe a couple of years ago, and also found setup/teardown to be a bigger issue than we'd imagined. Takes some of the fun out of it. Like you, we got it so we could pack it in our van, but unless we're going to stay somewhere for a few days, we don't bother setting it up.
Hi Paul - it takes about 15 minutes. With the electric pump I find I can now be doing other things like bringing the paddles and PFD’s to the put in while it inflates. There are three chambers so you need to be around to switch from one to the next. The fold up takes some practice to get it into a size that fits back in the van…and you need to be careful to wipe it down as you pack it up to avoid mildew if it’s going to be stored for awhile. I think the electric pump was a real game-changer. I hate to admit that pumping it manually was a drag and hurt my back. Hence the “Old” in “Old Man of New England.” I’ve learned to be patient so I can take advantage of it whenever we see water we want to paddle. It can’t compare to the Kevlar canoes we have that take 5 minutes to take on and off the car. I need to remind myself the TC16 isn’t a Kevlar Wenonah. 😁
@@OldManofNewEngland Thanks! 15 minutes is pretty good. We've assembled the Onak in 20, but you're busy the whole time doing nothing but putting it together. Cleaning/drying is similar, but it comes apart pretty fast. Stowing the TC16 might be a problem -- the Onak is only 11x16x48, and it stores above our heads in the van (hi-roof ford transit). Don't know if the TC16 could be folded to make that work or not. I really appreciate your comments, and review. We haven't given up on the Onak yet (it's only 33lbs!), but it really is pretty fiddly. It's also twitchy when paddling -- the TC16 looks pretty stable, in your, and other reviews. We're nearby, BTW -- Arlington MA. Oh -- other boats -- I'm envious of your Wenonah! We spent a week in one in the Boundary Waters long ago. Superb boat. Our non-folder is an Old Town Penobscot 16, which we love, but we can't really put it on a 9' tall roof.
I have a question, I’m 6’3 and weigh 300lbs. I have lake/pond boat call Twin Troller x10. I love this boat but I am recovering from rotator cuff surgery and would like to have a boat that I could use now or a boat that I could bring to lakes that are more remote and this canoe looks like it could work out. What’s your thought? PS what part of New England are you from? Thanks
Hi Dennis, the biggest downfall of this boat from a portability standpoint is the weight. It's not terribly easy (at least for an old man) to carry very far alone. Even if you put it in a portage backpack, 60+ pounds is A LOT.
@@OldManofNewEngland I found out there is a two wheel dolly that the company sells that you can strap to there boats.
Brilliant thaaaaaaaank you!!!!!!!
I'm glad you found it helpful, David!
Can you provide a link to the place you purchased the clips for the seats? Thanks.
Hi Digicisco - check the video description.
How much flex does it have. Could a bigger person sit in it?
It’s SOLID! The drop stitch construction is the same used for inflatable paddle boards.
Would you mind sharing where you purchased those pins for the seats?
Hi Guy - check out the link in the description above.
The "negatives" mentioned here are due to the wrong choice of boat for a single person. The TC16 is NOT a single person canoe. It is a 2-3 person fun boat. We have one in our family and for 2 adults and a kid it is about as perfect as it gets.
It’s definitely great as a tandem or triple! My wife and I use it all the time. Unfortunately there aren’t any options I know of for a nice, solo, inflatable so I use this for both. I’m posting a review shortly on paddling this solo. I find it works well. It’s just a heavy boat for an old man. 😉
I hope you enjoyed the video. Check out some of my others using more traditional canoes.
It looks very much like you're having to hold that paddle in an unbalanced position, as if the boat is too wide to effectively use the paddle. Of course I'm no expert on that since I've been a WW kayaker for 40+ years and I have no idea what the solution to that problem would be unless Sea Eagle makes a shorter and narrower version of that boat.
It’s a surprisingly comfortable boat to paddle. Up in the bow, however, when running tandem is another story!
Do you think the material would hold up to having a dog inside?
Hi Jason, it’s quite rugged. If the nails are trimmed I don’t think there would be any problem.
as I get older, Oru Kayak is my choice...Bought one
Hi, what's it like 3yrs later ?
Great question. It’s still HEAVY. I find myself rarely packing it in my van and instead use my Kevlar Wenonah for all of my paddling. The downside is that I can’t paddle when I take out the van. It’s not fun to paddle solo and I typically use the van solo without my wife. I’m not selling it any time soon…but it may happen.
Great video!
Thanks for watching!
Is the keel for a motor? Can you run a trolling motor on it?
Hey Slack - I’m not aware of a way to put a trolling motor on it.
Can it be truck topped inflated with good tie down?
Hi Paul - it’s extremely stiff when inflated. I’d rooftop it if I had to.
can buy a bracket of a sorts so that you put a electric motor on it. or will you have to come up with something yourself. eg a polystyrene block shaped to the tail with a board to sit on top like a L so its sit on top of the stern with a transom to mount the motor. then maybe strapped into place with staps to the canoes seat lugs.
For me it's all about the paddling.
Can a dog safely go on? Is there any danger of their claws puncturing?
It’s a pretty rugged material and the seating area is covered in a slip-resistant material. I don’t think there’s a chance of puncture unless those claws haven’t been trimmed in a long while. 😁
@@OldManofNewEngland great, thank you
We have 393rls and a 20 pound mix who gets pretty sharp nails that break our skin when he jumps but the drop-stitch material is tough. We don't use any pads and he hops from one to the other with no visible wear.
PS you now have 91 subscribers 😎
Thank you, Dennis!
Carry your pack on rollers. Save your back.
Yes, indeed. Rollers would make a huge difference. The man-handling in and out of the van, etc., though, is tough! For THIS Old Man, anyway. ;-)
Great videos mate!! New Sub from me!! Look forward to catching a few more!! Keep up the good work!! 👍🏼🛶🔥
Thanks!
Buy some clips and sew them on .
What do you mean, @KristopherSmallSr?
I mean you could just throw the sea eagle on the roof inflated.
That's a long way up to throw it!!
I think you really dont realize how much water your putting in the boat with your paddle.
I thought that might be it, too! But there actually was a leak and Sea Eagle fixed it for me under warranty.